October 2, 2025 • 24 mins
This week’s Couch Talks is full of listener gems! Casey shares a powerful reframe on how shifting focus changes feelings, L has us cracking up with her story of showering and making a sandwich before heading to the hospital in labor, and Melinda celebrates a sweet anniversary coincidence with Amy. These emails show just how much we all connect through the little details of life…keep the emails coming: heythere@feelingthingspodcast.com!
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Good.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
All right, break it down.
Speaker 3 (00:05):
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Speaker 2 (00:27):
This is Feeling Things with Amy and Kat. Happy Thursday,
Welcome to Couch Talks, our Q and a episode for
our Feeling Things podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
I'm Amy and I'm Kat, and I guess I should
still give the disclaimer even though we aren't answering a
question today.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Well, we have listener emails, but I think we're on
a role of just sharing emails from listeners and updates.
It may lead to therapy type conversation though, because they're
following up on previous episodes. Yeah, so disclaimer away.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Disclaimer is when we usually answer your question. We want
you to know that this doesn't actually serve as therapy,
but it still could help you.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Yeah, and we hope y'all like that we're mixing it
up a little bit. We just love hearing from y'all
and some of these emails are so good and I
want to share with everybody that we don't want them
to just like waste away in the email graveyard. Yeah,
but before we get into the emails, I saw something
that made me think of you, because you're like the
queen of hobbies. One of Kat's hobbies is hotties. But
(01:27):
I get that because I have been that way as well.
Like on the Bobby Bone Show, they've said that about
me for years, like, oh gosh, Amy's starting another hobby.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
But what are some of yours? And struggling coming up with.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Back in the day, I used to do a lot
more like I took guitar lessons, an art class like painting.
It was when I lived in North Carolina and I
didn't have kids yet and my husband was deployed a lot.
I was a gardener. I had a garden. Like it
wasn't like I want to garden. I gardened. I would
go out to my yard and cut my romaine. Oh
you grew food that, yeah, because my next door neighbor
(02:02):
was a legit gardener. They owned a restaurant in downtown
Southern Pines called Chef Warrens. If you ever go there,
or go to Pinehurst which is near there, A lot
of more people go to Pinehurst because it's a famous
cough area, But just drive fifteen minutes down the road
to Southern Pines and go to Chef Warrens. They're amazing.
They were our next door neighbors and they grew a
lot of their own food for the restaurant. And so
(02:22):
for my birthday one year, she gifted me a garden.
She came over to my house with everything we needed
and she built me a garden. Wait, that's really It
became my hobby by force, because I mean yeah, because
I probably would have given up at some point a
long like with like figuring out that fertilizer.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Did you feel pressure to keep it up because they're
your neighbor.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Yeah. And my dog I was tricksy. I know I
was in tricksy. My childhood dog was tricksy. And car
is laying here right next to me. She's my dog now.
But my dog I had then was Josie. She was
a Rottweiler and she dug up part of it one
time and I was mortified, and my neighbor came over
and fixed it. They were the best. Shout out Chef
Warren and Marianne. They were amazing. Okay, so that was
(03:10):
a hobby. I mean I've had multiple different ones, but
you you have been on a hobby kick lately. You
even texted me the other day that you need a
new hobby, and I thought, well, what a better time
to bring kat this article? I just saw the top
ten most attractive female hobbies according to men. Because you
could pick a hobby from this list and your husband
will be like, that's hot.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
You don't think he likes my current hobby nails beating
the one that I texted you about. Scrolling Facebook.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Oh yeah, I don't even think that's a hobby. I
think that that's a disorder.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Okay, but listen, I never no, no, no, because you said,
you said it's funny doing it like where it came from.
So I don't get on Facebook. If I post on there,
it's because it's connected to my Instagram. You're in a
marketplace market So I think at first I was getting
on there because I was getting on marketplace, and that
became like a game. But I realized that yesterday. I
(04:02):
think I realized why I keep getting back on there
and then I get stuck on there is I'm trying
to get into my neighborhood hoa Facebook group because I
want to know the like neighborhood gossip and like what's
going on, but they won't let me in.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Why.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
I don't know. I keep getting on, I keep checking,
and it still says pending. It's been like two weeks.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Well maybe the moderator whoever runs it just hasn't been
logging yet.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
There's like nine moderators and it says the front of
the neighborhood neighborhood Facebook group, join it, and that says
the name of it, and it seems like they want
you to join it, but then they aren't letting me in,
so I think I'm anxiously just trying to like get
into the club.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
So you're killing time on Facebook waiting for your notification
to come in.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Even accept you just get on to look to see
if I got in, and then you get distracted, and
then I'm like, yeah, I wonder what so yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Yeah, Well if you want to add another hobby.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Yeah, one that male will think it's attractive.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
We'll start from ten to one. And actually, I think
some of these guys are going to find you really
attractive because at number ten it's creative crafts.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
I have a whole craft closet.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Now go ask Patrick if he thinks your craft closet
is attractive. Hot nine singing. I mean that's just not
going to be for.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Us because we're not yourself.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
I think that you if it's a hobby and it's attractive,
it has to be that you sound good.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Right, Sometimes I sound good?
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Eight gardening I should bring that back. Yeah, Oh my gosh,
Alex would love it if I gardened. Seven reading.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
How far are you a family of lies?
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Not very far? Six cooking?
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Is it a hobby if you just like have to
do it?
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (05:46):
I think that's like a lot of us because I
cook every day, but I wouldn't call it a hobby.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
My boyfriend's son requested a soup that I make and
I was like, what you're talking to me? Like are
you sure? And he was like, yeah, I really like
that soup you made us a long time ago that
you didn't make it.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
That was yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Emulsifier what's it called? Oh wait, immersion blender.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Your sister trapped her finger off with yes, oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
She used with caution, if you press a button, it'll
turn it on real quick. And she was trying to
clean something out like garlic out of it with her
finger and then accidentally press the button and like nearly
slice the whole top part of her pointer finger off.
So just be careful. If you're gonna dig anything out
of just go ahead unplug it. Five is dancing.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Oh okay, I can't say that. I do that. I
wish so bad I could dance.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Four is art. You can art, I can craft, But
you painted those pictures.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
That ended up looking like a uterus.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
I feel like they looked pretty good. Three is traveling.
That is like your number one hobby.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Yes, yes, And I don't do like the adventurous traveling.
I do like I want to go to the same
kind of places every time and just like be on vacation.
You just want to Like when I hear that, I
think of people going to like the National parks and
going to all these cool places, which I guess sometimes
I do that, but most of the time I just
want to.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Like lounge and share, or I go to.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Like a cool maybe I don't even know, iybe I
do do what I think I'm thinking of, because I
do go to like new cities. We went to Italy.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Yeah, I think you're a traveler okay, yeah, I take
everything back. I'm being judge to photography. No me, neither.
And number one, this is the most attractive female hobby
according to men working out. Cry Ocat's like, that's me.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Well, I used to do that a lot. I used
to do that as a part of my job. Now
I'm I went on walk today.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Same. It was nice speaking of my boyfriend since we
were talking about him and his family. I was encouraged
to lift.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Weights because because you want to.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
I need to lift weights. I know that. But I
didn't need him, and.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
He encouraged you to. I know, but not in a
I know, but there's not Is there a right way
to do it?
Speaker 2 (08:13):
It's not. It's not, I think because he knows that.
I know because I said, he's trying trying to encourage me.
But then I'm like, I don't need to hear it
from you. I know. But he's like, you need to
take care of yourself. And I said something like, well
it must be nice, like with all this muscle he goes,
I go to the gym. I don't. I'm not naturally
just going to have muscle. He's like, I work so
(08:35):
that I stay strong, so that I can stay healthy
and like for his old self, you know. And one
thing I have to do, which I think I'm in
a book, an appointment at one of those stretch lab
places because I would like to start stretching more. And yeah,
I could go to yoga or whatever, but I need
to know what to do at home because I'm walking
(08:56):
way too much. Like I love walking, like walking is
my thing. But I know from what I see online
with like science and research, that I need to at
least lift something heavy from time to time, like for
my bones, for my muscles, for my overall health. Like
if you want to lift weights for looks, that's fine whatever,
It's not a vanity thing. It's a like health thing.
(09:18):
And that's where my boyfriend was coming from. Like he
wasn't saying like he was trying to be encouraging, but
then suddenly when it became his idea, I'm like, no,
so I do need to do that, and I do
need to stretch.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
When you think about lifting weights, like what do you
think about like that looks like like you just going
to the gym and being like, I guess I'll do
these exercises or like going to a class or something.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
I've had a trainer before, so I know exercises in
my mind from pre COVID because it's when I lost
my trainer. When COVID happened, I just stopped doing that
type of working out. But I would lift sort of heavyish,
and I know the exercises and I know how to
do them, so I think I could implement them.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
It's really hard to do that on your own though. Yeah.
That's why I like going to classes because I don't
have to, like.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
What kind of class, like a body pump. I used
to do those at gold Gym. All the time I think.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Of body pump, I think of like, well, I guess
we're that age like a step class. Yes, yeah, but
like I guess when I think of that, I'm like, oh,
I'm too young for that, but I think that's my age,
my demographic now.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Well I was doing body pump classes in my twenties.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Oh really, yeah, I'm thinking of like the boot camp
classes that I was going to that I'm not going
to anymore because we moved, but that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
So it's like I'll do there like push up some
burpies and stuff.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Well, every day is different, but sometimes it's bicep girls
or stuff with band pull ups, which I always did
not do when I did it an alternate activity. I
can't know why. It's not because I can't do them,
because they had the assistant the bands that help you.
So I do think if I put the band on,
I could do the pull up. It would be hard,
but I could. I think I could do it with help. Well,
(10:55):
I didn't do it. It's because I didn't want people
to see me struggling put the band on my life
because you have to like pull it down and I
would need the thickest one and I really didn't want
somebody to see me struggle to get the band off
my foot and then like what if it hits me
in the face before me to people? And so I
was like, it's not worth the anxiety of me getting
(11:17):
in and out of that. I'm just going to do
this other alternate exercise. So that's just a little bit
about me.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Well, yeah, so maybe I need to take a class
like you were taking. Okay, let's get to our emails. Okay,
let's get to our emails. This is from Casey, Hey, Amy,
(11:44):
and Kat. I'm listening to the Defensiveness podcast today and
had a suggestion that I wanted to pass on. This
is me interjecting, not the email here. Kat and I
have been going over the four Horsemen from John Gottman,
very helpful in relationships. You can see how you show up.
We've gone through three of them as of now, and
then next week will be our final horsemen, which is
(12:06):
gonna be stonewalling.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Right.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Okay, so this is what Casey's referring to. Defensiveness is
one of the horsemen. She said, the story about the
dog's water, which was me. I get defensive and I
was walking my dog one day and I made up
this whole story about this one kind stranger that offered
me water. I was like, Oh, my gosh, they're judging me.
They're judging me. They think I'm a horrible dog mom.
And oh they're just looking at me. And my boyfriend
(12:29):
was like, I think they're actually just offering you water.
Like it's not don't overthink it. So anyway, the story
about the dog's water had me thinking back to incidents
when I would spend too much time focusing on a
problem and I would have negative feelings about it. When
I instead switched my focus to fixing or solving the problem,
I would feel accomplished instead, same problem, different focus, better feeling.
(12:50):
Even if if I couldn't find the perfect solution, I
felt better than when I would dwell on the problem.
So thank you for that insight. Casey, and you know
what and I like to do. We like to make acronyms.
So same problem, different focus, better feeling.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Sp DFBS absolutely not.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
A SIV.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
I'm sorry, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
I'm sorry. That's too long for me.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Spdfbf SPDFBF. I could remember that same problem, different focus,
better feeling. I mean, yes, I just like this because
it's like a quick way to implement, like the longer
we dwell on a problem, like okay, what's the solution.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
And the dwelling doesn't really accomplish anything except it's going
to make you feel worse?
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Is it worse?
Speaker 1 (13:42):
So that yeah, so every time you probably won't be
able to come up with a solution. But I think
was that what she said?
Speaker 2 (13:49):
She said, even if I can't find the perfect resolution,
I feel better than when I dwell Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
No, I agree, I think that's great.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Thank you SPDFBF. All right next to email, Hey, ladies,
I just listened to the podcast on my way to work.
This morning, and I was laughing because I can totally
relate to showering before going to the hospital. Now, this
is from L. They just signed it L.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Wait, the letter L or the letter L.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
I know, sign things like A because it's sort of
like okay. You know, sometimes people are.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Just like okay, okay, yours is like A for anonymous.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
This is from L. And what Elle is referring to.
My cousin had her appendix removed. She had a terrible pain.
Obviously she didn't know that's what was going to happen
when she got to the hospital. But before she went
to the hospital, she was like, I have to shower
and shave and put on a cute jogger. Set in pain,
(14:48):
in pain, like pain pain. And she got to the
hospital and they literally did the surgery and they're like,
you know what if we so this don't don't don't
be like my cousin, because they said to her, if
we had operated maybe even ten minutes, it could have ruptured.
And then when that happens, it's bad.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
I was gonna say, what do you do with a
ruptured appendix?
Speaker 2 (15:05):
You need to get it out icap because it can
be toxic. I only know that because of a doctor's show.
I was just watching The Pit called doc.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Oh no, it's on.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Netflix where the doctor she loses her memory, she gets
in a car wreck and she's a doctor.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Are you worried about giving something away? Yeah, that's way
you got say.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
I don't want to give anything away. Yeah, but I
know you've been watching The Pit, which.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
I finished it highly recommend. It is so good.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Okay, I need to start that. I don't even know
why I started this doc. I think i've.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
However, I did cry a lot.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Yeah, but you're crying at everything, which is okay.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
You said I was very tender.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
You're tender right now. But you're allowed to cry anything
and everything. But I wonder if, like ten of us,
if like ten people listening right now watch the exact
episodes you watch, I wonder how many of.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Them would be Okay. Then I want to put this
out to people. Have you watched The Pit? Did you
cry how often? Because I've cried probably every other episode.
People are dying and that's not giving in a way.
It's a doctor. It's in the year in the yar.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Yeah, that's gonna yeah, Okay. Continuing with Elle's email, she said,
she was laughing. She can totally relate to showering before
going to the hospital. When I went into labor, I
was at a high school reunion and insisted that my
at the time husband take us home first so I
could shower and shave my legs. I knew all my
(16:29):
lady parts and legs would be out for everyone on display,
and I definitely wanted to feel clean. I also had
him make me a sandwich because I knew once I
got to the hospital, I would be in PO until
after delivery.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
What is MPO no something something? I learned this in
the pitch.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Oh, not possible.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
No food, no popcorn out here?
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Well, she wouldn't be able to eat.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
There is an acronym for no PA.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Nonprofit organization. I don't think that's it.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
There's four of us in here and we can't figure
it out.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Yeah, we also have the internet.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
And PO no nothing, past oral nothing. There was a
really easy one, they said in the pit. But I
also could be remembered.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Okay, so anyway, it means nothing by mouth, but but
it's with a P. The Latin is nil per ass Okay,
n PO.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Got it?
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Thank you Ell for sharing with us your story. I
do wonder it does. It just shows how close you
get with your spouse. I mean this is her former spouse.
But like you'd think when you're going to your high
school high school reunion, you like go ahead and just
get all the fall shower anyway, But like when you're
with like your everyday partner, you might just be like.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
And you're pregnant, like that pregnant, Yeah, like.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
I would not. Yeah, you're right, good point.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
I don't care anymore, but I do care when it
comes to like the whole shebang, because there's many strangers
down there.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
I mean, imagine, yeah, when you don't have that option
to go home, what if you go into labor and
you literally there's no choice. I mean, they see it all,
they see it all. That's what I would say the
whole time. I'd be like, I hope y'all seeing worse.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Right, Yeah, And also like different people think differently about
that stuff. Like some people don't shave and they like
don't care about it, so like you don't oh yeah,
I know, you know what I mean. So like those
doctors could be people that are like that don't shave,
so they're not like having I don't think.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
That they're thinking that right, they're not.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
But we did have an interesting conversation last week about
how often certain people shave. Didn't you say you're an
everyday shaver of your legs.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Well, that's cry okay because I have laser hair removal.
I got laser removal a long long time ago from
my dial image like as part of a It was
my very first radio endorsement in two thousand and six.
That's cool. And I started with under arms and then
did bikiniary and then did legs and you're.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Never gonna have this, P.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Think so.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
But Cryocat shaves every single day her legs, and I
thought that was so interesting.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Yeah, she won't leave the house without it every day.
Cryocat doesn't have a mic, but I'll speak for her.
She also cannot leave the house like unless she's been
up for two hours, so if she oh, sorry, she said,
she's getting healthier because it's changed to an hour. But
it used to be if she had to leave her
house at seven, then she'd have to wake up at
five because she had to be up for two hours
(19:30):
before she left. So if she had to leave the
house at eight, she'd wake up at six. If she
had to leave the house at six, she'd wake up
at four. It didn't matter.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Wait a second, is there a reason behind this other
than like just like well now, she's oh, because of
all the things you have to do, shave your legs,
red light therapy two different versions, and drink coffee. What
if you're getting up to just go to the gym,
you do all that stuff before you go to the gym.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Yes, she would do it all. But see she's already
shaved it down to an hour. So okay, an hour
and twenty. We're getting to the nitty gritty here.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
She's like, I don't want to be a liar.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Yeah, she but but that was my thing. Like her
whole routine didn't take two hours, but in her mind
she had if I'm leaving, I need to be up
for two hours.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
But she's now she's got it down to and good
for you.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
I would not be able to get myself out of
the bed to do that stuff.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
But it was like her, you probably like a ritual.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Yeah, you probably probably felt good for you. Yea does
feel good for you.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
She's since he doesn't have a mic, the thought of
getting up and leaving in a hurry and having a
fast morning is disgusting.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Disgusting, she says.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
We all have our own things, you know. Next email,
this is from Melinda. Hey there, I just finished listening
to this week's episode, and notice that the anniversary of
your new relationship aligned so closely with mine. My boyfriend
also an incredibly steady man in every sense of the word,
who has adopted four children, and I are both divorced
and have six kids all together. We went on our
(21:01):
first date Saturday, October fifth of twenty twenty four, and
we became officially boyfriend and girlfriend on November second last year,
just like you guys. And so Melinda's emailing this in
and she attached a picture of her whole family, like
their blended family, and they're the cutest little couple and family.
It's like so cute. Yeah, I'm so happy for them.
But she's responding to an episode where I talked about, like,
(21:24):
do you count the first date you go on as
your anniversary or when you officially became boyfriend and girlfriend?
And it seems like the overall consensus is that people
count the first date. Yeah, team, first date was what
I saw a lot of. But let me continue with
her email real quick she goes, I wasn't sure which
date to use, as are quickly approaching one your anniversary date,
but my boyfriend agrees with you and Kat, so October
(21:47):
fifth it is. And as a side note, we're going
to begin couples counseling this fall to help us navigate
all the dynamics that come with divorces blending of family.
And I'm so thankful to be with a man who
is not only a willing participant, but an initiate of
beginning counseling together. I really appreciate your openness and sharing
parts of your story. I just love you and Kat
(22:07):
and the Feeling Things podcast. I look forward each week
to hearing what you both have to say. Anyway, I
thought it was a fun anniversary coincidence. Happy anniversary to
you and Alex, and happy new beginnings to you and
your crew. Here's some photos Melinda, so I have to
show you her pictures later, but they're so cute.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Wait, so you've decided on the anniversary then, where we've
solidified it?
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Yeah, okay, I guess it'll be the first day. Yeah yeah,
I don't really, I mean that's coming up. I don't
have plans. Nous love to talk.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
About are you gonna be cool and let him plan
it or are you gonna.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
I will, But I'm trying to think of like I
need to look at the calendar and see what else.
I mean.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
I guess you can't. You guys both have to you
have a lot of stuff going on. Yeah, it is Saturday.
Your first day was a Friday.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
The first day was a Friday. It's a Saturday. So yeah,
those are our emails that we have to share. We
we're going to play a voicemail, but it's a little
bit long, so we'll save it for another episode. But
I thought it was another good follow up from a listener.
We've gotten some good voicemails lately, even from guys multiple.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Yeah, if you're out there and even wondering if you
should call in, this is your sign.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
This is your sign eight seven seven two O seven
two O seven seven. That is our number, and hey,
they're at Feeling Things. Podcast is our email. And we'll
get back to doing some questions here soon. But we're
loving all the other types of emails that we're getting
as well, so we're just mixing it up a little bit.
So whether you have a question or just a follow
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up or anything that you want to share, or advice
or a little nugget of wisdom pops into your head
that you're like, oh, this is relatable. I want to
share it with them, because that's kind of what Casey
did with her SPDFBF. All right, hope you have the
day you need to have. Bye bye
Speaker 3 (24:00):
O
Good.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
All right, break it down.
Speaker 3 (00:05):
If you ever have feelings that you just won't Amy
and Kat gotcha covin locking No, brother, Ladies and folks,
do you just follow an the spirit ware? It's all
the front over real stuff to the chill stuff and
the m but Swayne, sometimes the best thing you can
do it just stop you feel things.
Speaker 2 (00:27):
This is Feeling Things with Amy and Kat. Happy Thursday,
Welcome to Couch Talks, our Q and a episode for
our Feeling Things podcast.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
I'm Amy and I'm Kat, and I guess I should
still give the disclaimer even though we aren't answering a
question today.
Speaker 2 (00:42):
Well, we have listener emails, but I think we're on
a role of just sharing emails from listeners and updates.
It may lead to therapy type conversation though, because they're
following up on previous episodes. Yeah, so disclaimer away.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Disclaimer is when we usually answer your question. We want
you to know that this doesn't actually serve as therapy,
but it still could help you.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Yeah, and we hope y'all like that we're mixing it
up a little bit. We just love hearing from y'all
and some of these emails are so good and I
want to share with everybody that we don't want them
to just like waste away in the email graveyard. Yeah,
but before we get into the emails, I saw something
that made me think of you, because you're like the
queen of hobbies. One of Kat's hobbies is hotties. But
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I get that because I have been that way as well.
Like on the Bobby Bone Show, they've said that about
me for years, like, oh gosh, Amy's starting another hobby.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
But what are some of yours? And struggling coming up with.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Back in the day, I used to do a lot
more like I took guitar lessons, an art class like painting.
It was when I lived in North Carolina and I
didn't have kids yet and my husband was deployed a lot.
I was a gardener. I had a garden. Like it
wasn't like I want to garden. I gardened. I would
go out to my yard and cut my romaine. Oh
you grew food that, yeah, because my next door neighbor
(02:02):
was a legit gardener. They owned a restaurant in downtown
Southern Pines called Chef Warrens. If you ever go there,
or go to Pinehurst which is near there, A lot
of more people go to Pinehurst because it's a famous
cough area, But just drive fifteen minutes down the road
to Southern Pines and go to Chef Warrens. They're amazing.
They were our next door neighbors and they grew a
lot of their own food for the restaurant. And so
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for my birthday one year, she gifted me a garden.
She came over to my house with everything we needed
and she built me a garden. Wait, that's really It
became my hobby by force, because I mean yeah, because
I probably would have given up at some point a
long like with like figuring out that fertilizer.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Did you feel pressure to keep it up because they're
your neighbor.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Yeah. And my dog I was tricksy. I know I
was in tricksy. My childhood dog was tricksy. And car
is laying here right next to me. She's my dog now.
But my dog I had then was Josie. She was
a Rottweiler and she dug up part of it one
time and I was mortified, and my neighbor came over
and fixed it. They were the best. Shout out Chef
Warren and Marianne. They were amazing. Okay, so that was
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a hobby. I mean I've had multiple different ones, but
you you have been on a hobby kick lately. You
even texted me the other day that you need a
new hobby, and I thought, well, what a better time
to bring kat this article? I just saw the top
ten most attractive female hobbies according to men. Because you
could pick a hobby from this list and your husband
will be like, that's hot.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
You don't think he likes my current hobby nails beating
the one that I texted you about. Scrolling Facebook.
Speaker 2 (03:36):
Oh yeah, I don't even think that's a hobby. I
think that that's a disorder.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Okay, but listen, I never no, no, no, because you said,
you said it's funny doing it like where it came from.
So I don't get on Facebook. If I post on there,
it's because it's connected to my Instagram. You're in a
marketplace market So I think at first I was getting
on there because I was getting on marketplace, and that
became like a game. But I realized that yesterday. I
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think I realized why I keep getting back on there
and then I get stuck on there is I'm trying
to get into my neighborhood hoa Facebook group because I
want to know the like neighborhood gossip and like what's
going on, but they won't let me in.
Speaker 2 (04:18):
Why.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
I don't know. I keep getting on, I keep checking,
and it still says pending. It's been like two weeks.
Speaker 2 (04:24):
Well maybe the moderator whoever runs it just hasn't been
logging yet.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
There's like nine moderators and it says the front of
the neighborhood neighborhood Facebook group, join it, and that says
the name of it, and it seems like they want
you to join it, but then they aren't letting me in,
so I think I'm anxiously just trying to like get
into the club.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
So you're killing time on Facebook waiting for your notification
to come in.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
Even accept you just get on to look to see
if I got in, and then you get distracted, and
then I'm like, yeah, I wonder what so yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Yeah, Well if you want to add another hobby.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Yeah, one that male will think it's attractive.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
We'll start from ten to one. And actually, I think
some of these guys are going to find you really
attractive because at number ten it's creative crafts.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
I have a whole craft closet.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Now go ask Patrick if he thinks your craft closet
is attractive. Hot nine singing. I mean that's just not
going to be for.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Us because we're not yourself.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
I think that you if it's a hobby and it's attractive,
it has to be that you sound good.
Speaker 1 (05:28):
Right, Sometimes I sound good?
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Eight gardening I should bring that back. Yeah, Oh my gosh,
Alex would love it if I gardened. Seven reading.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
How far are you a family of lies?
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Not very far? Six cooking?
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Is it a hobby if you just like have to
do it?
Speaker 2 (05:46):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (05:46):
I think that's like a lot of us because I
cook every day, but I wouldn't call it a hobby.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
My boyfriend's son requested a soup that I make and
I was like, what you're talking to me? Like are
you sure? And he was like, yeah, I really like
that soup you made us a long time ago that
you didn't make it.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
That was yeah.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Emulsifier what's it called? Oh wait, immersion blender.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Your sister trapped her finger off with yes, oh my gosh.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
She used with caution, if you press a button, it'll
turn it on real quick. And she was trying to
clean something out like garlic out of it with her
finger and then accidentally press the button and like nearly
slice the whole top part of her pointer finger off.
So just be careful. If you're gonna dig anything out
of just go ahead unplug it. Five is dancing.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Oh okay, I can't say that. I do that. I
wish so bad I could dance.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Four is art. You can art, I can craft, But
you painted those pictures.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
That ended up looking like a uterus.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
I feel like they looked pretty good. Three is traveling.
That is like your number one hobby.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Yes, yes, And I don't do like the adventurous traveling.
I do like I want to go to the same
kind of places every time and just like be on vacation.
You just want to Like when I hear that, I
think of people going to like the National parks and
going to all these cool places, which I guess sometimes
I do that, but most of the time I just
want to.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Like lounge and share, or I go to.
Speaker 1 (07:17):
Like a cool maybe I don't even know, iybe I
do do what I think I'm thinking of, because I
do go to like new cities. We went to Italy.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Yeah, I think you're a traveler okay, yeah, I take
everything back. I'm being judge to photography. No me, neither.
And number one, this is the most attractive female hobby
according to men working out. Cry Ocat's like, that's me.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Well, I used to do that a lot. I used
to do that as a part of my job. Now
I'm I went on walk today.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Same. It was nice speaking of my boyfriend since we
were talking about him and his family. I was encouraged
to lift.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Weights because because you want to.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
I need to lift weights. I know that. But I
didn't need him, and.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
He encouraged you to. I know, but not in a
I know, but there's not Is there a right way
to do it?
Speaker 2 (08:13):
It's not. It's not, I think because he knows that.
I know because I said, he's trying trying to encourage me.
But then I'm like, I don't need to hear it
from you. I know. But he's like, you need to
take care of yourself. And I said something like, well
it must be nice, like with all this muscle he goes,
I go to the gym. I don't. I'm not naturally
just going to have muscle. He's like, I work so
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that I stay strong, so that I can stay healthy
and like for his old self, you know. And one
thing I have to do, which I think I'm in
a book, an appointment at one of those stretch lab
places because I would like to start stretching more. And yeah,
I could go to yoga or whatever, but I need
to know what to do at home because I'm walking
(08:56):
way too much. Like I love walking, like walking is
my thing. But I know from what I see online
with like science and research, that I need to at
least lift something heavy from time to time, like for
my bones, for my muscles, for my overall health. Like
if you want to lift weights for looks, that's fine whatever,
It's not a vanity thing. It's a like health thing.
(09:18):
And that's where my boyfriend was coming from. Like he
wasn't saying like he was trying to be encouraging, but
then suddenly when it became his idea, I'm like, no,
so I do need to do that, and I do
need to stretch.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
When you think about lifting weights, like what do you
think about like that looks like like you just going
to the gym and being like, I guess I'll do
these exercises or like going to a class or something.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
I've had a trainer before, so I know exercises in
my mind from pre COVID because it's when I lost
my trainer. When COVID happened, I just stopped doing that
type of working out. But I would lift sort of heavyish,
and I know the exercises and I know how to
do them, so I think I could implement them.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
It's really hard to do that on your own though. Yeah.
That's why I like going to classes because I don't
have to, like.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
What kind of class, like a body pump. I used
to do those at gold Gym. All the time I think.
Speaker 1 (10:08):
Of body pump, I think of like, well, I guess
we're that age like a step class. Yes, yeah, but
like I guess when I think of that, I'm like, oh,
I'm too young for that, but I think that's my age,
my demographic now.
Speaker 2 (10:19):
Well I was doing body pump classes in my twenties.
Speaker 1 (10:22):
Oh really, yeah, I'm thinking of like the boot camp
classes that I was going to that I'm not going
to anymore because we moved, but that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
So it's like I'll do there like push up some
burpies and stuff.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Well, every day is different, but sometimes it's bicep girls
or stuff with band pull ups, which I always did
not do when I did it an alternate activity. I
can't know why. It's not because I can't do them,
because they had the assistant the bands that help you.
So I do think if I put the band on,
I could do the pull up. It would be hard,
but I could. I think I could do it with help. Well,
(10:55):
I didn't do it. It's because I didn't want people
to see me struggling put the band on my life
because you have to like pull it down and I
would need the thickest one and I really didn't want
somebody to see me struggle to get the band off
my foot and then like what if it hits me
in the face before me to people? And so I
was like, it's not worth the anxiety of me getting
(11:17):
in and out of that. I'm just going to do
this other alternate exercise. So that's just a little bit
about me.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Well, yeah, so maybe I need to take a class
like you were taking. Okay, let's get to our emails. Okay,
let's get to our emails. This is from Casey, Hey, Amy,
(11:44):
and Kat. I'm listening to the Defensiveness podcast today and
had a suggestion that I wanted to pass on. This
is me interjecting, not the email here. Kat and I
have been going over the four Horsemen from John Gottman,
very helpful in relationships. You can see how you show up.
We've gone through three of them as of now, and
then next week will be our final horsemen, which is
(12:06):
gonna be stonewalling.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Right.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
Okay, so this is what Casey's referring to. Defensiveness is
one of the horsemen. She said, the story about the
dog's water, which was me. I get defensive and I
was walking my dog one day and I made up
this whole story about this one kind stranger that offered
me water. I was like, Oh, my gosh, they're judging me.
They're judging me. They think I'm a horrible dog mom.
And oh they're just looking at me. And my boyfriend
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was like, I think they're actually just offering you water.
Like it's not don't overthink it. So anyway, the story
about the dog's water had me thinking back to incidents
when I would spend too much time focusing on a
problem and I would have negative feelings about it. When
I instead switched my focus to fixing or solving the problem,
I would feel accomplished instead, same problem, different focus, better feeling.
(12:50):
Even if if I couldn't find the perfect solution, I
felt better than when I would dwell on the problem.
So thank you for that insight. Casey, and you know
what and I like to do. We like to make acronyms.
So same problem, different focus, better feeling.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
Sp DFBS absolutely not.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
A SIV.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
I'm sorry, I'm so sorry.
Speaker 2 (13:15):
I'm sorry.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
I'm sorry. That's too long for me.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Spdfbf SPDFBF. I could remember that same problem, different focus,
better feeling. I mean, yes, I just like this because
it's like a quick way to implement, like the longer
we dwell on a problem, like okay, what's the solution.
Speaker 1 (13:37):
And the dwelling doesn't really accomplish anything except it's going
to make you feel worse?
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Is it worse?
Speaker 1 (13:42):
So that yeah, so every time you probably won't be
able to come up with a solution. But I think
was that what she said?
Speaker 2 (13:49):
She said, even if I can't find the perfect resolution,
I feel better than when I dwell Yeah.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
No, I agree, I think that's great.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
Thank you SPDFBF. All right next to email, Hey, ladies,
I just listened to the podcast on my way to work.
This morning, and I was laughing because I can totally
relate to showering before going to the hospital. Now, this
is from L. They just signed it L.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Wait, the letter L or the letter L.
Speaker 2 (14:16):
I know, sign things like A because it's sort of
like okay. You know, sometimes people are.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
Just like okay, okay, yours is like A for anonymous.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
This is from L. And what Elle is referring to.
My cousin had her appendix removed. She had a terrible pain.
Obviously she didn't know that's what was going to happen
when she got to the hospital. But before she went
to the hospital, she was like, I have to shower
and shave and put on a cute jogger. Set in pain,
(14:48):
in pain, like pain pain. And she got to the
hospital and they literally did the surgery and they're like,
you know what if we so this don't don't don't
be like my cousin, because they said to her, if
we had operated maybe even ten minutes, it could have ruptured.
And then when that happens, it's bad.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
I was gonna say, what do you do with a
ruptured appendix?
Speaker 2 (15:05):
You need to get it out icap because it can
be toxic. I only know that because of a doctor's show.
I was just watching The Pit called doc.
Speaker 1 (15:11):
Oh no, it's on.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
Netflix where the doctor she loses her memory, she gets
in a car wreck and she's a doctor.
Speaker 1 (15:19):
Are you worried about giving something away? Yeah, that's way
you got say.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
I don't want to give anything away. Yeah, but I
know you've been watching The Pit, which.
Speaker 1 (15:27):
I finished it highly recommend. It is so good.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
Okay, I need to start that. I don't even know
why I started this doc. I think i've.
Speaker 1 (15:34):
However, I did cry a lot.
Speaker 2 (15:37):
Yeah, but you're crying at everything, which is okay.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
You said I was very tender.
Speaker 2 (15:43):
You're tender right now. But you're allowed to cry anything
and everything. But I wonder if, like ten of us,
if like ten people listening right now watch the exact
episodes you watch, I wonder how many of.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Them would be Okay. Then I want to put this
out to people. Have you watched The Pit? Did you
cry how often? Because I've cried probably every other episode.
People are dying and that's not giving in a way.
It's a doctor. It's in the year in the yar.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Yeah, that's gonna yeah, Okay. Continuing with Elle's email, she said,
she was laughing. She can totally relate to showering before
going to the hospital. When I went into labor, I
was at a high school reunion and insisted that my
at the time husband take us home first so I
could shower and shave my legs. I knew all my
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lady parts and legs would be out for everyone on display,
and I definitely wanted to feel clean. I also had
him make me a sandwich because I knew once I
got to the hospital, I would be in PO until
after delivery.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
What is MPO no something something? I learned this in
the pitch.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Oh, not possible.
Speaker 1 (16:49):
No food, no popcorn out here?
Speaker 2 (16:58):
Well, she wouldn't be able to eat.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
There is an acronym for no PA.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Nonprofit organization. I don't think that's it.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
There's four of us in here and we can't figure
it out.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
Yeah, we also have the internet.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
And PO no nothing, past oral nothing. There was a
really easy one, they said in the pit. But I
also could be remembered.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
Okay, so anyway, it means nothing by mouth, but but
it's with a P. The Latin is nil per ass Okay,
n PO.
Speaker 1 (17:35):
Got it?
Speaker 2 (17:36):
Thank you Ell for sharing with us your story. I
do wonder it does. It just shows how close you
get with your spouse. I mean this is her former spouse.
But like you'd think when you're going to your high
school high school reunion, you like go ahead and just
get all the fall shower anyway, But like when you're
with like your everyday partner, you might just be like.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
And you're pregnant, like that pregnant, Yeah, like.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
I would not. Yeah, you're right, good point.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
I don't care anymore, but I do care when it
comes to like the whole shebang, because there's many strangers
down there.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
I mean, imagine, yeah, when you don't have that option
to go home, what if you go into labor and
you literally there's no choice. I mean, they see it all,
they see it all. That's what I would say the
whole time. I'd be like, I hope y'all seeing worse.
Speaker 1 (18:20):
Right, Yeah, And also like different people think differently about
that stuff. Like some people don't shave and they like
don't care about it, so like you don't oh yeah,
I know, you know what I mean. So like those
doctors could be people that are like that don't shave,
so they're not like having I don't think.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
That they're thinking that right, they're not.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
But we did have an interesting conversation last week about
how often certain people shave. Didn't you say you're an
everyday shaver of your legs.
Speaker 2 (18:44):
Well, that's cry okay because I have laser hair removal.
I got laser removal a long long time ago from
my dial image like as part of a It was
my very first radio endorsement in two thousand and six.
That's cool. And I started with under arms and then
did bikiniary and then did legs and you're.
Speaker 1 (18:59):
Never gonna have this, P.
Speaker 2 (19:01):
Think so.
Speaker 1 (19:01):
But Cryocat shaves every single day her legs, and I
thought that was so interesting.
Speaker 2 (19:08):
Yeah, she won't leave the house without it every day.
Cryocat doesn't have a mic, but I'll speak for her.
She also cannot leave the house like unless she's been
up for two hours, so if she oh, sorry, she said,
she's getting healthier because it's changed to an hour. But
it used to be if she had to leave her
house at seven, then she'd have to wake up at
five because she had to be up for two hours
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before she left. So if she had to leave the
house at eight, she'd wake up at six. If she
had to leave the house at six, she'd wake up
at four. It didn't matter.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
Wait a second, is there a reason behind this other
than like just like well now, she's oh, because of
all the things you have to do, shave your legs,
red light therapy two different versions, and drink coffee. What
if you're getting up to just go to the gym,
you do all that stuff before you go to the gym.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Yes, she would do it all. But see she's already
shaved it down to an hour. So okay, an hour
and twenty. We're getting to the nitty gritty here.
Speaker 1 (20:02):
She's like, I don't want to be a liar.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Yeah, she but but that was my thing. Like her
whole routine didn't take two hours, but in her mind
she had if I'm leaving, I need to be up
for two hours.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (20:14):
But she's now she's got it down to and good
for you.
Speaker 1 (20:17):
I would not be able to get myself out of
the bed to do that stuff.
Speaker 2 (20:21):
But it was like her, you probably like a ritual.
Speaker 1 (20:24):
Yeah, you probably probably felt good for you. Yea does
feel good for you.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
She's since he doesn't have a mic, the thought of
getting up and leaving in a hurry and having a
fast morning is disgusting.
Speaker 1 (20:36):
Disgusting, she says.
Speaker 2 (20:39):
We all have our own things, you know. Next email,
this is from Melinda. Hey there, I just finished listening
to this week's episode, and notice that the anniversary of
your new relationship aligned so closely with mine. My boyfriend
also an incredibly steady man in every sense of the word,
who has adopted four children, and I are both divorced
and have six kids all together. We went on our
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first date Saturday, October fifth of twenty twenty four, and
we became officially boyfriend and girlfriend on November second last year,
just like you guys. And so Melinda's emailing this in
and she attached a picture of her whole family, like
their blended family, and they're the cutest little couple and family.
It's like so cute. Yeah, I'm so happy for them.
But she's responding to an episode where I talked about, like,
(21:24):
do you count the first date you go on as
your anniversary or when you officially became boyfriend and girlfriend?
And it seems like the overall consensus is that people
count the first date. Yeah, team, first date was what
I saw a lot of. But let me continue with
her email real quick she goes, I wasn't sure which
date to use, as are quickly approaching one your anniversary date,
but my boyfriend agrees with you and Kat, so October
(21:47):
fifth it is. And as a side note, we're going
to begin couples counseling this fall to help us navigate
all the dynamics that come with divorces blending of family.
And I'm so thankful to be with a man who
is not only a willing participant, but an initiate of
beginning counseling together. I really appreciate your openness and sharing
parts of your story. I just love you and Kat
(22:07):
and the Feeling Things podcast. I look forward each week
to hearing what you both have to say. Anyway, I
thought it was a fun anniversary coincidence. Happy anniversary to
you and Alex, and happy new beginnings to you and
your crew. Here's some photos Melinda, so I have to
show you her pictures later, but they're so cute.
Speaker 1 (22:23):
Wait, so you've decided on the anniversary then, where we've
solidified it?
Speaker 2 (22:28):
Yeah, okay, I guess it'll be the first day. Yeah yeah,
I don't really, I mean that's coming up. I don't
have plans. Nous love to talk.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
About are you gonna be cool and let him plan
it or are you gonna.
Speaker 2 (22:43):
I will, But I'm trying to think of like I
need to look at the calendar and see what else.
I mean.
Speaker 1 (22:47):
I guess you can't. You guys both have to you
have a lot of stuff going on. Yeah, it is Saturday.
Your first day was a Friday.
Speaker 2 (22:55):
The first day was a Friday. It's a Saturday. So yeah,
those are our emails that we have to share. We
we're going to play a voicemail, but it's a little
bit long, so we'll save it for another episode. But
I thought it was another good follow up from a listener.
We've gotten some good voicemails lately, even from guys multiple.
Speaker 1 (23:13):
Yeah, if you're out there and even wondering if you
should call in, this is your sign.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
This is your sign eight seven seven two O seven
two O seven seven. That is our number, and hey,
they're at Feeling Things. Podcast is our email. And we'll
get back to doing some questions here soon. But we're
loving all the other types of emails that we're getting
as well, so we're just mixing it up a little bit.
So whether you have a question or just a follow
(23:38):
up or anything that you want to share, or advice
or a little nugget of wisdom pops into your head
that you're like, oh, this is relatable. I want to
share it with them, because that's kind of what Casey
did with her SPDFBF. All right, hope you have the
day you need to have. Bye bye
Speaker 3 (24:00):
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