December 4, 2025 • 31 mins
Amy & Kat take an unexpected stroll down memory lane talking about the D.A.R.E. program from back in the day. Do yall remember that? It definitely kept Kat clean & also had her freaked out anytime her parents would have one drink haha.
They go over a heartfelt email from Suzanne offering a beautiful picture of the ups and downs that come with big life changes. Through all the emotions (happiness, sadness, fear, and contentment) she reminds us to embrace the chaos of the holidays, fill our cups, and take things one step at a time. A true reminder that life is full of all the feelings, and it's okay to experience them all in a single day.
Also, Amy answers another email from a listener asking about how Ally Fallon fits into the mix because they found her podcast on the feed and they play a voicemail about letting go of the need for others' approval!!
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Good.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
All right, break it down.
Speaker 3 (00:05):
If you ever have feelings that you just won home,
Amy and Cat gotcha covin locking a brother, Ladies and folks,
do you just follow an the spirit where it's all
the front over real stuff, tell the chill stuff and
the m but Swayne, sometimes the best thing you can
do it jes stop you feel things. This is Feeling
(00:27):
Things with Amy and Kat.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
Happy Thursday, Welcome to Couch Talks, our Q and a
listener type episode of our Feeling Things podcast. I'm Amy
and I'm Cat and today's Cat's birthday. Halt Beaver birthday too, Yeah,
half Beever birthday two. Yeah, yeah, happyday. We can't play
music on the podcast, so I just have to sing
(00:50):
it to you.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Thank you. I really like that. I was like, wait,
you're cutting me off because I was about to give
the disclaimer, and then it was for a good reason.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
Yeah. And I could also like, as a birthday gift
to you, you spare you from the disclaimer because we
have two emails and a voicemail, but none of which
I think will be giving actual feedback advice too. But
maybe so at your own risk for your birthday.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
I'll be off the hook. I'll just sit back and
relax and listen to these emails.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
Especially because some listeners get annoyed by your disclaimer.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
And I don't need anybody being annoyed with you on.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
My birthday exactly, thank you, So happy birthday, Kat.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
My birthday. It's everybody's gift as well, listening. They don't
have to listen to me say that.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
I've got an email from Suzanne about all the feelings. Okay,
they're all a lot. Okay, she said, Hey, there, Amy
and Kat. I'm sitting on the couch with my puppy
Kaiko Keko Kaiko Kaiko.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
How did you sell it?
Speaker 4 (01:45):
K e i ko kiko Kiko kiko Kiko. That'd be
cuter than it's kind of like Geico, right, so it
could be Kaiko. Okay, So my new puppy k uh
watching Holiday Harmony. Shout out. She's watching the movie.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Shout out to yourself.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
My husband is hunting, my step kids are with their mom,
and my sisters and mom are in California and New York.
She sent this email over Thanksgiving break, So just a
little prefacing that a little bit. I've spent five months
trying to figure out how to be retired, and all
I figured out is this, I attached all the feelings.
(02:26):
Getting a puppy is the greatest thing I could have
done at this time. She's my shadow and I adore her.
The feeling is happy. Having a ton of time on
my hands is not the best for my mental health. Sad,
Trying to figure out my next chapter is hard. Scared,
Working out is good for me. Content. Thanksgiving Day is
(02:46):
looking a bit too much like every other day. Regretful,
except for you have a puppy with you and you're
watching a harmony. My house is warm, my oven is full,
and I am healthy. My husband loves me, my bills
are paid, and the only thing I fear is what
the future holds. In the meantime, I am grateful all
(03:07):
those feelings in one day. And to recap happy, sad, scared, content, regretful,
and grateful, Let's enjoy the next month of all the
craziness the holidays bring, one step at a time. Fill
your cup is needed, and pour it out when you
can keep up the fun. Your friend, Suzanne, So, I
(03:27):
love this email so much because you actually put up
a podcast clip the other day about you can be
going through something and you can still find joy or gratitude.
And this had those vibes to me, like all in
one day, she felt happy, sad, scared, content, regretful, and grateful.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
And I will say, I think one of the hardest
things we do in life is seeing both. Is when
we have those feelings of sadness, to be able to
still hold joy way and gratefulness and gratitude, that's a
skill and it is It's hard. So you go, girl.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
And as we do enter the holiday season, yeah, I
don't know. I'm thinking that that it is a time
where you will be experiencing a lot like a like
a bowle full of feelings, because you know, you may
have a new addition to your life, like a puppy,
And then you may be like I'm thinking of, you know,
(04:29):
my mom's birthday is coming up. Like I was looking
at the calendar in our last day of the show
on The Bobby Bone Show's December nineteenth, I think. But
then I'm instantly at the calendar, I'm like, oh, December nineteenth,
that's my mom's birthday. And I'd be like so excited that,
like I'm on a break and we're done with the show.
But then I also may be all in the fields
because it's my mom's birthday. And that's okay. Those two
(04:49):
things will be there and I'll cross that bridge when
I get there. But the holidays bring up probably a
lot of like are you missing somebody? Are you longing
for something? Are you sad about something? But also you
joyful and happy about something. And I also love that
she reminded us fill your cup as needed and pour
it out when you can, only when you can, only
when you can if you can pour into others. But
(05:11):
a lot of time during the holiday season there's a
lot of pouring.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
So maybe it goes out other people can pour into
you too, because sometimes we get we get in those
roles where we're the one doing all of the things.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
Oh, especially women. Yes, Like if you think of like
most relationships, I know, if you want to know, who's
doing the shopping for all the kids, for the in laws,
for the parents, for the friends, and the cook and
the cook yeah m hm, and it's like the husband's
like and I'm not saying this, I'm not I'm not
I'm not man hating. Wow, I just brought up another
(05:46):
example that maybe it could be used against me, which
I do have a voicemail relating to that coming up,
because I and you'll hear in the voicemail, which we're
playing it because it's it's a listener reminding us that
we can't control what other people think of I am
stating something that I believe to be generally true. It's
not one hundred percent. It's not one hundred percent that
(06:07):
no men do Christmas shopping or cooking. It's not one
hundred percent. But there are a lot of women where
it falls on them. It all falls on them.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
The cultural norm in our society is for the women
to do that. It doesn't mean that they all do no.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
It doesn't mean they may state that general fact that
we don't like men.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
You never said that, I know, but it came up.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
We had a listener that said that, like, as a
mother of boys, she was really disturbed by all my
male bashing. Yeah, so that's what the voicemail is. Later though,
we get to.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Okay, well, anyway back to our point though, that you
were making a beautiful point that a lot of the times,
and I honestly this doesn't even matter men, women, non binary, whatever,
it doesn't matter who's doing it. The point you were
making is that you are saying, this is a time
where a lot of people take on the brunt of everything.
(07:06):
There's usually people in this world who will overdo in
the holidays and give, give, give, give, give, give, give,
and have trouble receiving or asking for help. And right
now is a really important time to take a pause
and say, Hey, maybe I might want to receive this year.
And that's okay.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
I love that, and I love Suzanne's email, So thank
you for sending us all of your feelings and then
the wisdom for the season, Wisdom for this season. I
have another email from Chrissy. She said, Hey, they're a
huge fan of your podcast. Quick question. I've been listening
to Ali Fallon's podcast as I found it from yours
(07:45):
for a while now, and I'm curious to know what
your association is with her. Thanks so much for sharing
her with your audience. So, Ali Fallon is a friend
of mine. We go way back. I'm not really sure
how we originally connected, but she came on my podcast
when it was Four Things with Amy around multiple times,
and then she joined my podcast network and she has
(08:05):
her own podcast and it's called Write Your Story and
every Saturday we have an episode that loads up from
people from my podcast network. So Alie, write your story
as one of them. Soul sessions with Amanda Rieger Green,
What's God got to do with It? With Leanne Ellington,
I think Lisa's been on a break so and then
(08:27):
You Need Therapy was also in that mix. But then
Kat took a chance on this. I took a chance,
took a chance on this partnership, and we shut down
four things and shut down.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Their sounds harsh. We shut the door, shut it down.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
We what did we do? We paused, impose it, I
shut it it shut down production.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
We consciously uncoupled production.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
Yes, and joined together and consciously coupled.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Yeah, we did.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
And now Kat and I are together. But Ali is
part of my network. So not only is she a friend,
but yes, that's why you see write your story pop
up in there, and that is my association with her.
And she put up a post the other day that
I just wanted to share it, just her chopping up
it looks like Apple's for a kid, and then she
wrote a little text overlay on top. And she's a writer,
(09:23):
she's a ghostwriter, she's an author. She's written in her own books.
But she writes for other people, and she helps people
write their story, hence the name of her podcast, Write
Your Story. I've done her write Your Story workshops that
she has hosted in the past with Donald Miller. I've
met some of you there listeners like she's amazing. But
this is a post she put up that I wanted
to share to any of you out there that struggle
(09:46):
with sharing some stuff that's going on with you or
day to day life, like she struggles with social media
a lot. She's very honest about that, like as showing
up as a content creator at times, and she posted
it's it's so easy to buy the lie that you
have nothing interesting to say, no big flashy story to tell,
no insider inspiration to offer anyone while you're drowning in
(10:09):
despair or responsibilities or just the grind of daily life.
Don't wait for a publisher, an agent, or an audience
to tell you that you have a story worth telling.
Decide you are the story and start telling it today.
It's not about doing something better or different or more interesting.
It's about looking more deeply about what's already there. You
(10:31):
are a miracle unfolding in real time. What would happen
if you let yourself believe that. And what's cool about
write your Story is you might think like, oh, well,
I don't want to write a book, like I don't
want to put something out there for other people to read.
But yes, Ali works with people that actually want to
publish books, but she also works with people that just
want to therapeutically write their story and maybe share it
(10:55):
with loved ones, share it with their partner, share it
with their children, or just have it for their like
nobody ever is going to read it. And I think
it's also easy to buy the live like, well, what
would I even share to myself? What would I write down?
And that's what's cool if she offers a guide, almost
(11:17):
a template, and my bed is every single one of
you listening right now. You all have a story that
would be so impactful to anybody at any given time,
But that's also beside the point. It might just be
for you, And I just wanted to encourage all to
check her out. Alie Fallon, Write your Story. Thank you
(11:38):
for that email, Chrissy, and for asking the question, because
I'm sure other people might be like who are these
people or what are these podcasts? But I'm glad that
y'all are downloading them and listening at the voicemail. Now,
(12:01):
I do want to preface this with that I'm not
bringing this back up to bring up the email that
we got or it was either a voicemail or email
about I think it was an email about my man bashing,
because that's not really what I wanted to share. What
I wanted to share is in this the reminder that
we can't control what other people think about us, because
(12:22):
even in like it came up organically at the beginning
of our recording or a few minutes ago, when I
said that about men, I was like, oh, shoot, there
I am man bashing again. But I know that I'm
not man bashing. But I'm now trying to cover my
basis because I know that there's people out there thinking that.
But also I can't control that they might think that.
(12:43):
I hope they know my real heart. So just know
when you hear this voicemail. Sure, she mentions that part
because it sort of sets up what she's going to say,
but it's the latter part that is the takeaway. It's
not me trying to revisit it, especially if that listener
is listening to sent the email I'm grateful for the
email well, and I don't want you to think we're
continuing to like pick at it, but it may come
(13:04):
up from time to time like ago, and now it's
going to come up on the voicemail. So here here's
the voicemail.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
Hi, this is Shannon from Texas and I just listened
to the podcast about the lady who emailed in regarding
Amy being chauvinisticker saying me and hateful things about men.
I am a listener for both the Bobby Bone Show
and your podcast, and I don't feel if that's the case.
I know everybody feels differently. However, my thought is we
(13:35):
cannot choose how people feel about what we say. I
could say something and just mean it's the stars in
the sky, and everybody could feel differently about what I
just said. I don't feel like Amy should feel threatened
or be offended or anything by the way specific people feel.
(13:58):
I do understand trying not to say things that may
come across as hurtple or chauvinistic or something like that.
But say what you need to say, and that's your prerogative,
and you can never control what other people feel when
you are speaking. You can control the way you react,
(14:21):
and you can control what you say, but you can't
control how it makes other people feel. I hope you
have the day you need to have. Thank you.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
That was a good reminder and I was of love
that she ended the call with our little tag line,
you have the day you need to have, which we
now have on a crew neck. Oh yeah, it's no
crew neck available. We just had it on a T
shirt before, but now we have it on a blue
on blue monochromatic, super cute look. And y'all can hit
up Feeling Things podcast dot com to see that. If
you have any Christmas shopping you need to do, maybe
(14:51):
you need to give that sweatshirt to yourself or someone
in your life that needs the reminder to have the
day they need to have. Which, speaking of Christmas, have
you seen the videos or is this just my algorithm
of like the PSAs from emergency room doctors, Like they're
at Michael's and they're showing all the Christmas tree decorations
and they're like wink wink, like, hey, guys, don't put
(15:15):
these this morphus. What do you know what the MorphOS is?
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Yeah, but what an interesting algorithm for you?
Speaker 4 (15:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Well this is a trend or I don't know one.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
Well, I've seen three, so I don't know if it's
because I watched the first one that they gave me
more because then I saw a part two, and then
I saw a completely different doctor talking about it. But
doctor I think her name is Beecham or beach Moum.
I follow her. She's really awesome.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
No, she's legions.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
No, she is a doctor and a content creator. Like
her page took off that what now, like she legit,
but she.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Said don't put part of organs in your body.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
Yeah, because she works in the er and this is
what they see. But she also was doing it in
a very mature doctor kind way to where if you
happen to do this, like, don't feel shame or embarrassed.
We are here to help you. And she wasn't being
sarcastic at all. She's like, please come to the doctor
right away because this could be very harmful.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
I think twice before you do it.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
Yes, because of the shape of a Christmas tree, it
just can go and if there's some base it gets stuck.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
A Christmas tree ornament or like those bottle brush trees.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
Uh no brush for a way that would be painful
more of like think like a ceramic Christmas tree, oh wow,
or a glass Christmas tree, which they were like glass,
no glass, you know, or if like there's no base
because I guess the way that area is designed, it
(16:47):
can like really sucks and then they can get stuck.
And then that is why you were in the er.
So that is my algorithm, not you.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
I'm learning about this for the first time now, so
thank you for the PSI. Yeah, I'm not getting those
kinds of.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
Well, I didn't know that that was a thing that
was an increase in er visits during this time of year,
but obviously it's a thing. So they felt like they
should make these PSA videos to like make sure people know,
like she was even she took it as far as
to say, there are safe items online. But I think
(17:29):
it's like with the holiday decor, people get curious.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Yeah, I was gonna say, there's plenty of things I
think are created for that, right, But but yeah, you're like, oh,
there's this tree right here, let's see.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
How are you you know, drinking? I dare you.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
I don't want to put true their view.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
Well I don't think I would. I'm trying to understand
how it might happen, Like, I'm sure it could be
a number of reasons why you decided to partake in
the activity. However, just know, yeah that you might end
up in the er and but to go if you
need to feel embarrassed. But the doctors they're good.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Yeah. The word Dare just made me think about this.
I was listening to be there in five podcasts recently.
Did you know that DARE was kind of like an MLM?
Did you do the DARE program?
Speaker 4 (18:22):
Yes, yeah, I have a I have a DARE t
shirt from seventh grade. It's vintage legit.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Yeah, well that's part of that. She was saying that,
like now it's like ironically people wear it like the
merch Did you do an essay contest for Dare doing this?
Shannon's shaking her head. Did you win? Oh? Shandon win?
Speaker 4 (18:39):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Her sister won the Dare So it's just funny. I
think if you need something like just to keep you company.
It's like two hours long just she's just talking about
the DARE program and the ins and outs of it.
Listen to it. But there's like a whole side of
the internet that's deep diving DARE and talking about its
adjacency too, MLMs crazy.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
I guess I did not know that it was like
a well it was.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Proven to not work, like it was. It statistically did
not work the DARE program. It did not keep people
from doing drugs. And if you think about it, like.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
The why didn't it.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
It was just something that they brought into like elementary
schools and they're like, hey, kids, just say no. I
think that whole idea of like just say no was
not did not work. Rather, what would have worked if
we had like actual education around.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
Drugs arked Nancy Reagan, this is your brain. This is
your brain on drugs. Yeah, an egg backing an egg.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
That worked for you, and it worked for me because
we are scared of things. But for a lot of
people that I don't think that worked on them like
that terrafied me that kind of stuff because I was
a good girl and always wanted to be good. But
a lot of people don't have that. That's not their persona.
So it didn't. Yeah, it didn't work, and that's also
(19:59):
why it doesn't exists anymore. But there was a lot
of fundraising involved in it, and it was it isn't
an MLM because it wasn't like a for profit.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
But Okay, that's where I was confusing me because I
was like, who was making money?
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Yeah, but I mean they were putting it was like
a facade, like it wasn't really working, but it was
making people feel like it was working. Also, there's a
lot of lore around it convincing kids to tell on
their parents. Their parents like drink or like smoked weed
or something like that. And there are a couple of
cases where kids got like taken from a home that
(20:32):
wasn't actually harmful. Now take what I'm saying with a
granstalt because I don't actually know the ins and outs
of these cases. And I'm sure maybe the DARE program
helped some kids feel safe too and like get out
of dangerous cases. But there's like some coercion to get
kids to like admit things that their parents were doing
that sometimes they weren't doing.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Yeah, okay, Yeah, I think the DARE program is what
made me as a kid so anxious. If my my
parents ever even had like one drink, Like my mom
will tell you if if we went out to dinner
and my mom had like one margarita, I would put
my head on the table.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
Oh, Okay, that was not my experience. I was terrifying
my parents were gonna go to jail. Okay, drink I
Jared just did not. I don't really know that it
impacted me at all tooever. I mean I think I
guess it kept me from doing drugs.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
I will say maybe even.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
Doing drugs, but I don't think I was ever terrified
of drinking or my parents drinking, or looking out for
my parents. Like I don't know, I don't even really remember.
I just remember like a dog and a trench dog. Yeah,
what was his name, scrub from McGruff for really, I
don't know, mister McGruff for the gruff.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
What wow?
Speaker 4 (21:42):
I mean at first I said scruff and McGruff, but yeah,
mister McGruff. That's what I remember. I remember my t
shirt the dog and drugs are bad.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Yeah, drugs are bad, stay away?
Speaker 4 (21:53):
Yeah, which I mean in high school, I didn't really
do any drugs like watch like I did try. I
know we have sometimes parents have kids in the car,
so trying to be sensitive to it. But like Marijuan,
I love.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
How how did that feel admitting that?
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Why I've admitted that before. You know what energy that
game that sound on TikTok. That was like, I do
cuss a little. She was like, what's your favorite cuss words?
Speaker 4 (22:27):
Right? But like it wasn't really a probably a thing
for me, Like it wasn't a problem, but you know,
what's the best thing to keep me off drugs was
watching like other people I knew doing them, and I'm like,
y'all look so ridiculous. Pill. I'm still never to this day,
I'm forty four years old. I have never seen cocaine.
(23:00):
I have never seen Okay, are you sure you haven't
seen it? I've never seen it because I know what
it looks like. I've seen the movies.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Okay, you're right right. I think I was more thinking
like people were probably all around you doing it. I
just weren't inviting you to the bathroom.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
Oh, I'm sure that I've been. I know for a fact,
I've been at parties where it is. But I've never
seen it, like I've never never seen it like on
anybody's pinky or I've never seen it, you know, in
a ring. I've never seen it on a table lined
up on a mirror like I've never I've never seen it.
(23:35):
And if anybody ruins that for me if they've ruined
that streak, well, I don't know, but if I walk
in on it, I'm gonna be mad. But I think
it's also like way less. And really, it wasn't that
those drugs they were doing. Like I remember some people
doing like certain types of mushrooms or something, and they
would be hallucinating and like looking at a basketball.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Have you seen those?
Speaker 4 (23:58):
No? But they did them, Okay, I don't you know?
Speaker 1 (24:01):
And you were like that doesn't look like yes.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
And like they were on the fast track to nowhere
like these people were who know, I don't even know
where these people are right now, but that to me
was enough to be like, I'm good. I don't want
to try whatever drug they are on. I am good
because they're not going anywhere I want to go, Like
I don't want to be talking to a basketball. Why
(24:26):
not at a party? No, I don't know exactly what
they did. It's not like they were doing it openly,
but like I can't remember. I feel like they were like, oh,
they ate a mushroom taco whatever that is, maybe put
some mushrooms in a tortilla, crazy or something. So anyways,
that is for you, Dare. I don't know if it
was Dare or what. But no, Dare didn't work for
(24:48):
me because remember I tried the oh yeah, you didn't
say no, you said chechen the chung cheek.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
You said yes, I said yes. That's why you didn't
win the essay contest. Dare gives the same vibes as
like that Teens in Touch? Did you have that? Which
is like such a weird name for what this was.
It was the abstinence program, but it was called Teens
in Touch?
Speaker 4 (25:09):
Oh you know. They had a good little laugh about that.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
Yeah touch. It was above my head like at back
in the day. But that program, all of the kids
in there were definitely in touch. Oh they were, yes,
but they got to get out of class to go
and then they would go speak to the middle schools
about abstinence.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
Oh I used in high schools.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Yeah it doesn't. I mean maybe it worked for you,
but like in general, those programs have been proven to
not work.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
And yeah, I have no idea if it worked for me.
Sometimes I would go into schools and it would be
really awkward because sometimes there would be a pregnant girl
in the class and I'd be like, guys, come on,
could we have vetted this.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Wait, what were you going to middle schools or high school?
Speaker 4 (25:48):
Okay, yeah, yeah, high school.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Yeah, I'm just saying yeah, I mean interesting. I don't
know if Teens in Touch was MLM, but I don't
know if it exists anymore. I wonder what, like you
didn't have what was it called at your school?
Speaker 4 (26:02):
I don't remember. I didn't. I don't remember. I only
remember getting that at like church, like purity ring stuff
like that. Like I don't I don't remember a teens
in Touch program or if I, like in our health class,
if we had an abstinence leaning education program. I'm not sure.
I just know that in my twenties, right when I
(26:24):
first started on the Bobby Bone Show, I was a
volunteer for teaching absence in high schools. So I would
go in high schools like that's why I was an adult. Yeah,
I was twenty five.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
That's an interesting concept. Well, I guess also, like it's
not interesting. At the same time, we had other students
come talk to us, not like adults, oh, like fellow people.
I think it was the vibe was they were appeers.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
Oh, because you're a teen in touch?
Speaker 1 (26:49):
The teens were in touch, but the teens in Touch
would go to the middle schools and they were and
you're supposed to like look up to these people. So
I remember when the teens came to my middle school,
I was like, I want to be just like that kid.
And then I get to high school and I'm like,
he was in Touch and everybody knows it. So it's
a facade. It's a scam. Liar, liar. So anyway I
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have to say about that, I was an adult, but
I think I think the vibe was they wanted us
to look up to these people.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
I was also a cooler, older kid in my program.
There was a lot of STD education.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Okay, so you're like coach car informative.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
We had slides, oh some projector this day haunt me.
I don't know if they were on my computer and
then they would go out to the slide. No, it
was it wasn't that long ago. It wasn't a projector, but.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
I had projectors and like the projector where they put
the like piece of paper on I know.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
No, no, no, it was like a slidees show on
my computer and then we put it up on the screen.
But it would show the various STDs on body parts
on the screen.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Wow, I mean, for lack.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
Of a better like you're it's it's educational, informative, but
it also is putting a little fear, like do you
want your vagina to look like this?
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (28:08):
No, because the pictures were graphic.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
I think that's a little fair, right, Like that's helpful
to that, it's helpful.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
And a lot of times they're asymptomatic, so you wouldn't
even know. It's not like you have that as a
warning of like, okay, this is what this person's carrying. Yeah,
and then but just because they are asymptomatic doesn't mean
when you get it you will be right.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
You know, it kept me from smoking cigarettes. What did
you have the guy come talk to your school that
had his throat taken out and he had talked through the.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
Oh did you tracky a thing?
Speaker 1 (28:40):
I don't know what that's called. But I don't even
know if they've still I assume they still have to
do the surgery. But they had some guy that had
a hole in his throat. And this was when we
were little, like I think I was in middle school,
so it was yeah, it was scary. He scared me
and I said, I'll never smoke one of those things.
Speaker 4 (28:57):
Oh wow, my grandma smoked and I was always anti smoking,
like anti, But then did.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
You get your grandma to smoke? To stop smoking?
Speaker 4 (29:07):
No, I would hide her cigarettes and she would get
so mad, So you know she would be so mad.
But then in high school I smoked for like two weeks.
Oh dang a menthols. Oh, I don't.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Know, or you're just trying to be like You're like,
I don't want to look stupid and talk about basketball,
but I'm gonna smoke these crows cigarettes.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
That taste like I don't know. It was my face,
I remember, and my best friend's mom caught me and
she said, Amy Brown, did you tell your mom I'm smoking?
I can't remember if she told my mom. Honestly, I
don't know, but I remember telling my friend Angel. I
was like, this is gonna be my thing, like this
is what I do now, And I didn't this is.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Me now, get used to it.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
Yes, And it lasted two weeks and it was disgusting.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
So did you like get nervous when you went to
buy them?
Speaker 4 (29:57):
I don't think.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
So you're like, oh, you made me. They're like, I'll
take a pack of the menthols.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
Please, Yeah, can I get some Virginia slimbs.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
I think it was just a phase. I'm so glad
it was only a couple of weeks long because Ell.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
But like, was it cool to smoke cigarettes back then?
Because like, I don't think it was.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
This was nineteen ninety seven, I think is the year
that I dabbled. And uh, I would say, generally speaking,
it wasn't cool, but it wasn't as frowned upon like
a lot of people, especially if they were at a
party or having a drink or whatever, like they just
like have like maybe they didn't smoke what they did
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maybe at a party, but it wasn't an everyday thing, okay.
And I would say my two weeks was not even
every day. It was really like two weekends where I
made it cigarettes the whole the pack lasted me the
entire time. So who knows, I'll have to Andrea probably
remembers more, but I Andrea can vouch the fact that
(31:00):
I definitely was like this is what I do. I am. Okay, Well,
I didn't know we would go there, but hopefully we
keep you safe from Christmas tree decor and drugs. Just
say no, okay, just say no. Do it all right?
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Well, educate yourself and then make a decision.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
Oh yeah, I'm gonna give it a blanket.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
No, Well I think my point okay, it's not important.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
I do want to know your point.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Well, my point is just saying no isn't enough to
keep kids from saying no. We need to educate them.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
I'm talking to adults.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Oh, adults.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
Adults are the ones that are showing every you should
know by now, yeah you should know.
Speaker 5 (31:40):
We know.
Speaker 4 (31:41):
Okay, we know, and have the day you need to
have a happy birthday, cat, Thank you, Bye bye.
Good.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
All right, break it down.
Speaker 3 (00:05):
If you ever have feelings that you just won home,
Amy and Cat gotcha covin locking a brother, Ladies and folks,
do you just follow an the spirit where it's all
the front over real stuff, tell the chill stuff and
the m but Swayne, sometimes the best thing you can
do it jes stop you feel things. This is Feeling
(00:27):
Things with Amy and Kat.
Speaker 4 (00:29):
Happy Thursday, Welcome to Couch Talks, our Q and a
listener type episode of our Feeling Things podcast. I'm Amy
and I'm Cat and today's Cat's birthday. Halt Beaver birthday too, Yeah,
half Beever birthday two. Yeah, yeah, happyday. We can't play
music on the podcast, so I just have to sing
(00:50):
it to you.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Thank you. I really like that. I was like, wait,
you're cutting me off because I was about to give
the disclaimer, and then it was for a good reason.
Speaker 4 (00:56):
Yeah. And I could also like, as a birthday gift
to you, you spare you from the disclaimer because we
have two emails and a voicemail, but none of which
I think will be giving actual feedback advice too. But
maybe so at your own risk for your birthday.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
I'll be off the hook. I'll just sit back and
relax and listen to these emails.
Speaker 4 (01:18):
Especially because some listeners get annoyed by your disclaimer.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
And I don't need anybody being annoyed with you on.
Speaker 4 (01:23):
My birthday exactly, thank you, So happy birthday, Kat.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
My birthday. It's everybody's gift as well, listening. They don't
have to listen to me say that.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
I've got an email from Suzanne about all the feelings. Okay,
they're all a lot. Okay, she said, Hey, there, Amy
and Kat. I'm sitting on the couch with my puppy
Kaiko Keko Kaiko Kaiko.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
How did you sell it?
Speaker 4 (01:45):
K e i ko kiko Kiko kiko Kiko. That'd be
cuter than it's kind of like Geico, right, so it
could be Kaiko. Okay, So my new puppy k uh
watching Holiday Harmony. Shout out. She's watching the movie.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
Shout out to yourself.
Speaker 4 (02:05):
My husband is hunting, my step kids are with their mom,
and my sisters and mom are in California and New York.
She sent this email over Thanksgiving break, So just a
little prefacing that a little bit. I've spent five months
trying to figure out how to be retired, and all
I figured out is this, I attached all the feelings.
(02:26):
Getting a puppy is the greatest thing I could have
done at this time. She's my shadow and I adore her.
The feeling is happy. Having a ton of time on
my hands is not the best for my mental health. Sad,
Trying to figure out my next chapter is hard. Scared,
Working out is good for me. Content. Thanksgiving Day is
(02:46):
looking a bit too much like every other day. Regretful,
except for you have a puppy with you and you're
watching a harmony. My house is warm, my oven is full,
and I am healthy. My husband loves me, my bills
are paid, and the only thing I fear is what
the future holds. In the meantime, I am grateful all
(03:07):
those feelings in one day. And to recap happy, sad, scared, content, regretful,
and grateful, Let's enjoy the next month of all the
craziness the holidays bring, one step at a time. Fill
your cup is needed, and pour it out when you
can keep up the fun. Your friend, Suzanne, So, I
(03:27):
love this email so much because you actually put up
a podcast clip the other day about you can be
going through something and you can still find joy or gratitude.
And this had those vibes to me, like all in
one day, she felt happy, sad, scared, content, regretful, and grateful.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
And I will say, I think one of the hardest
things we do in life is seeing both. Is when
we have those feelings of sadness, to be able to
still hold joy way and gratefulness and gratitude, that's a
skill and it is It's hard. So you go, girl.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
And as we do enter the holiday season, yeah, I
don't know. I'm thinking that that it is a time
where you will be experiencing a lot like a like
a bowle full of feelings, because you know, you may
have a new addition to your life, like a puppy,
And then you may be like I'm thinking of, you know,
(04:29):
my mom's birthday is coming up. Like I was looking
at the calendar in our last day of the show
on The Bobby Bone Show's December nineteenth, I think. But
then I'm instantly at the calendar, I'm like, oh, December nineteenth,
that's my mom's birthday. And I'd be like so excited that,
like I'm on a break and we're done with the show.
But then I also may be all in the fields
because it's my mom's birthday. And that's okay. Those two
(04:49):
things will be there and I'll cross that bridge when
I get there. But the holidays bring up probably a
lot of like are you missing somebody? Are you longing
for something? Are you sad about something? But also you
joyful and happy about something. And I also love that
she reminded us fill your cup as needed and pour
it out when you can, only when you can, only
when you can if you can pour into others. But
(05:11):
a lot of time during the holiday season there's a
lot of pouring.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
So maybe it goes out other people can pour into
you too, because sometimes we get we get in those
roles where we're the one doing all of the things.
Speaker 4 (05:24):
Oh, especially women. Yes, Like if you think of like
most relationships, I know, if you want to know, who's
doing the shopping for all the kids, for the in laws,
for the parents, for the friends, and the cook and
the cook yeah m hm, and it's like the husband's
like and I'm not saying this, I'm not I'm not
I'm not man hating. Wow, I just brought up another
(05:46):
example that maybe it could be used against me, which
I do have a voicemail relating to that coming up,
because I and you'll hear in the voicemail, which we're
playing it because it's it's a listener reminding us that
we can't control what other people think of I am
stating something that I believe to be generally true. It's
not one hundred percent. It's not one hundred percent that
(06:07):
no men do Christmas shopping or cooking. It's not one
hundred percent. But there are a lot of women where
it falls on them. It all falls on them.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
The cultural norm in our society is for the women
to do that. It doesn't mean that they all do no.
Speaker 4 (06:21):
It doesn't mean they may state that general fact that
we don't like men.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
You never said that, I know, but it came up.
Speaker 4 (06:31):
We had a listener that said that, like, as a
mother of boys, she was really disturbed by all my
male bashing. Yeah, so that's what the voicemail is. Later though,
we get to.
Speaker 1 (06:43):
Okay, well, anyway back to our point though, that you
were making a beautiful point that a lot of the times,
and I honestly this doesn't even matter men, women, non binary, whatever,
it doesn't matter who's doing it. The point you were
making is that you are saying, this is a time
where a lot of people take on the brunt of everything.
(07:06):
There's usually people in this world who will overdo in
the holidays and give, give, give, give, give, give, give,
and have trouble receiving or asking for help. And right
now is a really important time to take a pause
and say, Hey, maybe I might want to receive this year.
And that's okay.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
I love that, and I love Suzanne's email, So thank
you for sending us all of your feelings and then
the wisdom for the season, Wisdom for this season. I
have another email from Chrissy. She said, Hey, they're a
huge fan of your podcast. Quick question. I've been listening
to Ali Fallon's podcast as I found it from yours
(07:45):
for a while now, and I'm curious to know what
your association is with her. Thanks so much for sharing
her with your audience. So, Ali Fallon is a friend
of mine. We go way back. I'm not really sure
how we originally connected, but she came on my podcast
when it was Four Things with Amy around multiple times,
and then she joined my podcast network and she has
(08:05):
her own podcast and it's called Write Your Story and
every Saturday we have an episode that loads up from
people from my podcast network. So Alie, write your story
as one of them. Soul sessions with Amanda Rieger Green,
What's God got to do with It? With Leanne Ellington,
I think Lisa's been on a break so and then
(08:27):
You Need Therapy was also in that mix. But then
Kat took a chance on this. I took a chance,
took a chance on this partnership, and we shut down
four things and shut down.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
Their sounds harsh. We shut the door, shut it down.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
We what did we do? We paused, impose it, I
shut it it shut down production.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
We consciously uncoupled production.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
Yes, and joined together and consciously coupled.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
Yeah, we did.
Speaker 4 (09:00):
And now Kat and I are together. But Ali is
part of my network. So not only is she a friend,
but yes, that's why you see write your story pop
up in there, and that is my association with her.
And she put up a post the other day that
I just wanted to share it, just her chopping up
it looks like Apple's for a kid, and then she
wrote a little text overlay on top. And she's a writer,
(09:23):
she's a ghostwriter, she's an author. She's written in her own books.
But she writes for other people, and she helps people
write their story, hence the name of her podcast, Write
Your Story. I've done her write Your Story workshops that
she has hosted in the past with Donald Miller. I've
met some of you there listeners like she's amazing. But
this is a post she put up that I wanted
to share to any of you out there that struggle
(09:46):
with sharing some stuff that's going on with you or
day to day life, like she struggles with social media
a lot. She's very honest about that, like as showing
up as a content creator at times, and she posted
it's it's so easy to buy the lie that you
have nothing interesting to say, no big flashy story to tell,
no insider inspiration to offer anyone while you're drowning in
(10:09):
despair or responsibilities or just the grind of daily life.
Don't wait for a publisher, an agent, or an audience
to tell you that you have a story worth telling.
Decide you are the story and start telling it today.
It's not about doing something better or different or more interesting.
It's about looking more deeply about what's already there. You
(10:31):
are a miracle unfolding in real time. What would happen
if you let yourself believe that. And what's cool about
write your Story is you might think like, oh, well,
I don't want to write a book, like I don't
want to put something out there for other people to read.
But yes, Ali works with people that actually want to
publish books, but she also works with people that just
want to therapeutically write their story and maybe share it
(10:55):
with loved ones, share it with their partner, share it
with their children, or just have it for their like
nobody ever is going to read it. And I think
it's also easy to buy the live like, well, what
would I even share to myself? What would I write down?
And that's what's cool if she offers a guide, almost
(11:17):
a template, and my bed is every single one of
you listening right now. You all have a story that
would be so impactful to anybody at any given time,
But that's also beside the point. It might just be
for you, And I just wanted to encourage all to
check her out. Alie Fallon, Write your Story. Thank you
(11:38):
for that email, Chrissy, and for asking the question, because
I'm sure other people might be like who are these
people or what are these podcasts? But I'm glad that
y'all are downloading them and listening at the voicemail. Now,
(12:01):
I do want to preface this with that I'm not
bringing this back up to bring up the email that
we got or it was either a voicemail or email
about I think it was an email about my man bashing,
because that's not really what I wanted to share. What
I wanted to share is in this the reminder that
we can't control what other people think about us, because
(12:22):
even in like it came up organically at the beginning
of our recording or a few minutes ago, when I
said that about men, I was like, oh, shoot, there
I am man bashing again. But I know that I'm
not man bashing. But I'm now trying to cover my
basis because I know that there's people out there thinking that.
But also I can't control that they might think that.
(12:43):
I hope they know my real heart. So just know
when you hear this voicemail. Sure, she mentions that part
because it sort of sets up what she's going to say,
but it's the latter part that is the takeaway. It's
not me trying to revisit it, especially if that listener
is listening to sent the email I'm grateful for the
email well, and I don't want you to think we're
continuing to like pick at it, but it may come
(13:04):
up from time to time like ago, and now it's
going to come up on the voicemail. So here here's
the voicemail.
Speaker 5 (13:14):
Hi, this is Shannon from Texas and I just listened
to the podcast about the lady who emailed in regarding
Amy being chauvinisticker saying me and hateful things about men.
I am a listener for both the Bobby Bone Show
and your podcast, and I don't feel if that's the case.
I know everybody feels differently. However, my thought is we
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cannot choose how people feel about what we say. I
could say something and just mean it's the stars in
the sky, and everybody could feel differently about what I
just said. I don't feel like Amy should feel threatened
or be offended or anything by the way specific people feel.
(13:58):
I do understand trying not to say things that may
come across as hurtple or chauvinistic or something like that.
But say what you need to say, and that's your prerogative,
and you can never control what other people feel when
you are speaking. You can control the way you react,
(14:21):
and you can control what you say, but you can't
control how it makes other people feel. I hope you
have the day you need to have. Thank you.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
That was a good reminder and I was of love
that she ended the call with our little tag line,
you have the day you need to have, which we
now have on a crew neck. Oh yeah, it's no
crew neck available. We just had it on a T
shirt before, but now we have it on a blue
on blue monochromatic, super cute look. And y'all can hit
up Feeling Things podcast dot com to see that. If
you have any Christmas shopping you need to do, maybe
(14:51):
you need to give that sweatshirt to yourself or someone
in your life that needs the reminder to have the
day they need to have. Which, speaking of Christmas, have
you seen the videos or is this just my algorithm
of like the PSAs from emergency room doctors, Like they're
at Michael's and they're showing all the Christmas tree decorations
and they're like wink wink, like, hey, guys, don't put
(15:15):
these this morphus. What do you know what the MorphOS is?
Speaker 1 (15:20):
Yeah, but what an interesting algorithm for you?
Speaker 4 (15:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (15:24):
Well this is a trend or I don't know one.
Speaker 4 (15:27):
Well, I've seen three, so I don't know if it's
because I watched the first one that they gave me
more because then I saw a part two, and then
I saw a completely different doctor talking about it. But
doctor I think her name is Beecham or beach Moum.
I follow her. She's really awesome.
Speaker 1 (15:44):
No, she's legions.
Speaker 4 (15:46):
No, she is a doctor and a content creator. Like
her page took off that what now, like she legit,
but she.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Said don't put part of organs in your body.
Speaker 4 (15:55):
Yeah, because she works in the er and this is
what they see. But she also was doing it in
a very mature doctor kind way to where if you
happen to do this, like, don't feel shame or embarrassed.
We are here to help you. And she wasn't being
sarcastic at all. She's like, please come to the doctor
right away because this could be very harmful.
Speaker 1 (16:14):
I think twice before you do it.
Speaker 4 (16:16):
Yes, because of the shape of a Christmas tree, it
just can go and if there's some base it gets stuck.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
A Christmas tree ornament or like those bottle brush trees.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
Uh no brush for a way that would be painful
more of like think like a ceramic Christmas tree, oh wow,
or a glass Christmas tree, which they were like glass,
no glass, you know, or if like there's no base
because I guess the way that area is designed, it
(16:47):
can like really sucks and then they can get stuck.
And then that is why you were in the er.
So that is my algorithm, not you.
Speaker 1 (16:59):
I'm learning about this for the first time now, so
thank you for the PSI. Yeah, I'm not getting those
kinds of.
Speaker 4 (17:08):
Well, I didn't know that that was a thing that
was an increase in er visits during this time of year,
but obviously it's a thing. So they felt like they
should make these PSA videos to like make sure people know,
like she was even she took it as far as
to say, there are safe items online. But I think
(17:29):
it's like with the holiday decor, people get curious.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
Yeah, I was gonna say, there's plenty of things I
think are created for that, right, But but yeah, you're like, oh,
there's this tree right here, let's see.
Speaker 4 (17:39):
How are you you know, drinking? I dare you.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
I don't want to put true their view.
Speaker 4 (17:48):
Well I don't think I would. I'm trying to understand
how it might happen, Like, I'm sure it could be
a number of reasons why you decided to partake in
the activity. However, just know, yeah that you might end
up in the er and but to go if you
need to feel embarrassed. But the doctors they're good.
Speaker 1 (18:09):
Yeah. The word Dare just made me think about this.
I was listening to be there in five podcasts recently.
Did you know that DARE was kind of like an MLM?
Did you do the DARE program?
Speaker 4 (18:22):
Yes, yeah, I have a I have a DARE t
shirt from seventh grade. It's vintage legit.
Speaker 1 (18:27):
Yeah, well that's part of that. She was saying that,
like now it's like ironically people wear it like the
merch Did you do an essay contest for Dare doing this?
Shannon's shaking her head. Did you win? Oh? Shandon win?
Speaker 4 (18:39):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (18:39):
Her sister won the Dare So it's just funny. I
think if you need something like just to keep you company.
It's like two hours long just she's just talking about
the DARE program and the ins and outs of it.
Listen to it. But there's like a whole side of
the internet that's deep diving DARE and talking about its
adjacency too, MLMs crazy.
Speaker 4 (19:01):
I guess I did not know that it was like
a well it was.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
Proven to not work, like it was. It statistically did
not work the DARE program. It did not keep people
from doing drugs. And if you think about it, like.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
The why didn't it.
Speaker 1 (19:17):
It was just something that they brought into like elementary
schools and they're like, hey, kids, just say no. I
think that whole idea of like just say no was
not did not work. Rather, what would have worked if
we had like actual education around.
Speaker 4 (19:28):
Drugs arked Nancy Reagan, this is your brain. This is
your brain on drugs. Yeah, an egg backing an egg.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
That worked for you, and it worked for me because
we are scared of things. But for a lot of
people that I don't think that worked on them like
that terrafied me that kind of stuff because I was
a good girl and always wanted to be good. But
a lot of people don't have that. That's not their persona.
So it didn't. Yeah, it didn't work, and that's also
(19:59):
why it doesn't exists anymore. But there was a lot
of fundraising involved in it, and it was it isn't
an MLM because it wasn't like a for profit.
Speaker 4 (20:08):
But Okay, that's where I was confusing me because I
was like, who was making money?
Speaker 1 (20:11):
Yeah, but I mean they were putting it was like
a facade, like it wasn't really working, but it was
making people feel like it was working. Also, there's a
lot of lore around it convincing kids to tell on
their parents. Their parents like drink or like smoked weed
or something like that. And there are a couple of
cases where kids got like taken from a home that
(20:32):
wasn't actually harmful. Now take what I'm saying with a
granstalt because I don't actually know the ins and outs
of these cases. And I'm sure maybe the DARE program
helped some kids feel safe too and like get out
of dangerous cases. But there's like some coercion to get
kids to like admit things that their parents were doing
that sometimes they weren't doing.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
Yeah, okay, Yeah, I think the DARE program is what
made me as a kid so anxious. If my my
parents ever even had like one drink, Like my mom
will tell you if if we went out to dinner
and my mom had like one margarita, I would put
my head on the table.
Speaker 4 (21:09):
Oh, Okay, that was not my experience. I was terrifying
my parents were gonna go to jail. Okay, drink I
Jared just did not. I don't really know that it
impacted me at all tooever. I mean I think I
guess it kept me from doing drugs.
Speaker 1 (21:21):
I will say maybe even.
Speaker 4 (21:22):
Doing drugs, but I don't think I was ever terrified
of drinking or my parents drinking, or looking out for
my parents. Like I don't know, I don't even really remember.
I just remember like a dog and a trench dog. Yeah,
what was his name, scrub from McGruff for really, I
don't know, mister McGruff for the gruff.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
What wow?
Speaker 4 (21:42):
I mean at first I said scruff and McGruff, but yeah,
mister McGruff. That's what I remember. I remember my t
shirt the dog and drugs are bad.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Yeah, drugs are bad, stay away?
Speaker 4 (21:53):
Yeah, which I mean in high school, I didn't really
do any drugs like watch like I did try. I
know we have sometimes parents have kids in the car,
so trying to be sensitive to it. But like Marijuan,
I love.
Speaker 1 (22:09):
How how did that feel admitting that?
Speaker 2 (22:15):
Why I've admitted that before. You know what energy that
game that sound on TikTok. That was like, I do
cuss a little. She was like, what's your favorite cuss words?
Speaker 4 (22:27):
Right? But like it wasn't really a probably a thing
for me, Like it wasn't a problem, but you know,
what's the best thing to keep me off drugs was
watching like other people I knew doing them, and I'm like,
y'all look so ridiculous. Pill. I'm still never to this day,
I'm forty four years old. I have never seen cocaine.
(23:00):
I have never seen Okay, are you sure you haven't
seen it? I've never seen it because I know what
it looks like. I've seen the movies.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
Okay, you're right right. I think I was more thinking
like people were probably all around you doing it. I
just weren't inviting you to the bathroom.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
Oh, I'm sure that I've been. I know for a fact,
I've been at parties where it is. But I've never
seen it, like I've never never seen it like on
anybody's pinky or I've never seen it, you know, in
a ring. I've never seen it on a table lined
up on a mirror like I've never I've never seen it.
(23:35):
And if anybody ruins that for me if they've ruined
that streak, well, I don't know, but if I walk
in on it, I'm gonna be mad. But I think
it's also like way less. And really, it wasn't that
those drugs they were doing. Like I remember some people
doing like certain types of mushrooms or something, and they
would be hallucinating and like looking at a basketball.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Have you seen those?
Speaker 4 (23:58):
No? But they did them, Okay, I don't you know?
Speaker 1 (24:01):
And you were like that doesn't look like yes.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
And like they were on the fast track to nowhere
like these people were who know, I don't even know
where these people are right now, but that to me
was enough to be like, I'm good. I don't want
to try whatever drug they are on. I am good
because they're not going anywhere I want to go, Like
I don't want to be talking to a basketball. Why
(24:26):
not at a party? No, I don't know exactly what
they did. It's not like they were doing it openly,
but like I can't remember. I feel like they were like, oh,
they ate a mushroom taco whatever that is, maybe put
some mushrooms in a tortilla, crazy or something. So anyways,
that is for you, Dare. I don't know if it
was Dare or what. But no, Dare didn't work for
(24:48):
me because remember I tried the oh yeah, you didn't
say no, you said chechen the chung cheek.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
You said yes, I said yes. That's why you didn't
win the essay contest. Dare gives the same vibes as
like that Teens in Touch? Did you have that? Which
is like such a weird name for what this was.
It was the abstinence program, but it was called Teens
in Touch?
Speaker 4 (25:09):
Oh you know. They had a good little laugh about that.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
Yeah touch. It was above my head like at back
in the day. But that program, all of the kids
in there were definitely in touch. Oh they were, yes,
but they got to get out of class to go
and then they would go speak to the middle schools
about abstinence.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
Oh I used in high schools.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
Yeah it doesn't. I mean maybe it worked for you,
but like in general, those programs have been proven to
not work.
Speaker 4 (25:33):
And yeah, I have no idea if it worked for me.
Sometimes I would go into schools and it would be
really awkward because sometimes there would be a pregnant girl
in the class and I'd be like, guys, come on,
could we have vetted this.
Speaker 1 (25:46):
Wait, what were you going to middle schools or high school?
Speaker 4 (25:48):
Okay, yeah, yeah, high school.
Speaker 1 (25:50):
Yeah, I'm just saying yeah, I mean interesting. I don't
know if Teens in Touch was MLM, but I don't
know if it exists anymore. I wonder what, like you
didn't have what was it called at your school?
Speaker 4 (26:02):
I don't remember. I didn't. I don't remember. I only
remember getting that at like church, like purity ring stuff
like that. Like I don't I don't remember a teens
in Touch program or if I, like in our health class,
if we had an abstinence leaning education program. I'm not sure.
I just know that in my twenties, right when I
(26:24):
first started on the Bobby Bone Show, I was a
volunteer for teaching absence in high schools. So I would
go in high schools like that's why I was an adult. Yeah,
I was twenty five.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
That's an interesting concept. Well, I guess also, like it's
not interesting. At the same time, we had other students
come talk to us, not like adults, oh, like fellow people.
I think it was the vibe was they were appeers.
Speaker 4 (26:48):
Oh, because you're a teen in touch?
Speaker 1 (26:49):
The teens were in touch, but the teens in Touch
would go to the middle schools and they were and
you're supposed to like look up to these people. So
I remember when the teens came to my middle school,
I was like, I want to be just like that kid.
And then I get to high school and I'm like,
he was in Touch and everybody knows it. So it's
a facade. It's a scam. Liar, liar. So anyway I
(27:11):
have to say about that, I was an adult, but
I think I think the vibe was they wanted us
to look up to these people.
Speaker 4 (27:20):
I was also a cooler, older kid in my program.
There was a lot of STD education.
Speaker 1 (27:27):
Okay, so you're like coach car informative.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
We had slides, oh some projector this day haunt me.
I don't know if they were on my computer and
then they would go out to the slide. No, it
was it wasn't that long ago. It wasn't a projector, but.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
I had projectors and like the projector where they put
the like piece of paper on I know.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
No, no, no, it was like a slidees show on
my computer and then we put it up on the screen.
But it would show the various STDs on body parts
on the screen.
Speaker 1 (27:59):
Wow, I mean, for lack.
Speaker 4 (28:01):
Of a better like you're it's it's educational, informative, but
it also is putting a little fear, like do you
want your vagina to look like this?
Speaker 1 (28:08):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (28:08):
No, because the pictures were graphic.
Speaker 1 (28:11):
I think that's a little fair, right, Like that's helpful
to that, it's helpful.
Speaker 4 (28:15):
And a lot of times they're asymptomatic, so you wouldn't
even know. It's not like you have that as a
warning of like, okay, this is what this person's carrying. Yeah,
and then but just because they are asymptomatic doesn't mean
when you get it you will be right.
Speaker 1 (28:29):
You know, it kept me from smoking cigarettes. What did
you have the guy come talk to your school that
had his throat taken out and he had talked through the.
Speaker 4 (28:38):
Oh did you tracky a thing?
Speaker 1 (28:40):
I don't know what that's called. But I don't even
know if they've still I assume they still have to
do the surgery. But they had some guy that had
a hole in his throat. And this was when we
were little, like I think I was in middle school,
so it was yeah, it was scary. He scared me
and I said, I'll never smoke one of those things.
Speaker 4 (28:57):
Oh wow, my grandma smoked and I was always anti smoking,
like anti, But then did.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
You get your grandma to smoke? To stop smoking?
Speaker 4 (29:07):
No, I would hide her cigarettes and she would get
so mad, So you know she would be so mad.
But then in high school I smoked for like two weeks.
Oh dang a menthols. Oh, I don't.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
Know, or you're just trying to be like You're like,
I don't want to look stupid and talk about basketball,
but I'm gonna smoke these crows cigarettes.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
That taste like I don't know. It was my face,
I remember, and my best friend's mom caught me and
she said, Amy Brown, did you tell your mom I'm smoking?
I can't remember if she told my mom. Honestly, I
don't know, but I remember telling my friend Angel. I
was like, this is gonna be my thing, like this
is what I do now, And I didn't this is.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Me now, get used to it.
Speaker 4 (29:48):
Yes, And it lasted two weeks and it was disgusting.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
So did you like get nervous when you went to
buy them?
Speaker 4 (29:57):
I don't think.
Speaker 1 (29:58):
So you're like, oh, you made me. They're like, I'll
take a pack of the menthols.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
Please, Yeah, can I get some Virginia slimbs.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
I think it was just a phase. I'm so glad
it was only a couple of weeks long because Ell.
Speaker 1 (30:14):
But like, was it cool to smoke cigarettes back then?
Because like, I don't think it was.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
This was nineteen ninety seven, I think is the year
that I dabbled. And uh, I would say, generally speaking,
it wasn't cool, but it wasn't as frowned upon like
a lot of people, especially if they were at a
party or having a drink or whatever, like they just
like have like maybe they didn't smoke what they did
(30:39):
maybe at a party, but it wasn't an everyday thing, okay.
And I would say my two weeks was not even
every day. It was really like two weekends where I
made it cigarettes the whole the pack lasted me the
entire time. So who knows, I'll have to Andrea probably
remembers more, but I Andrea can vouch the fact that
(31:00):
I definitely was like this is what I do. I am. Okay, Well,
I didn't know we would go there, but hopefully we
keep you safe from Christmas tree decor and drugs. Just
say no, okay, just say no. Do it all right?
Speaker 1 (31:19):
Well, educate yourself and then make a decision.
Speaker 4 (31:23):
Oh yeah, I'm gonna give it a blanket.
Speaker 1 (31:25):
No, Well I think my point okay, it's not important.
Speaker 4 (31:28):
I do want to know your point.
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Well, my point is just saying no isn't enough to
keep kids from saying no. We need to educate them.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
I'm talking to adults.
Speaker 1 (31:35):
Oh, adults.
Speaker 4 (31:36):
Adults are the ones that are showing every you should
know by now, yeah you should know.
Speaker 5 (31:40):
We know.
Speaker 4 (31:41):
Okay, we know, and have the day you need to
have a happy birthday, cat, Thank you, Bye bye.
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