January 7, 2020 • 49 mins
This is Amy’s ‘5th Thing’ (a bonus episode) where she answers your questions every Tuesday! ‘4 Things With Amy Brown’ comes out every Thursday, but on Tuesdays Amy answers questions you’ve emailed in. On today’s episode Andrea Turner{@Naturallytruebeauty} is here with Amy to answer all your beauty questions: Recipes for a great bubble bath(detoxing and hydrating), choosing the right self tanning product, what to look for when scheduling a spray tan, detox teas...This is where Amy takes a little detour and Andrea and her get into eating disorders and what their own recovery has looked like. Now back to the beauty questions: what to have in your daily and weekly skin care routine, her DIY toner recipe, finding the best serum for your face, what facial products you should be investing in, the importance of eye cream and how to get the most benefits out of ice rolling.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Okay, heads up, this is Amy here, and this is
I'm recording this intro before the intro that you're about
to hear that I did with Andrea, because when I
first started out with her, I had no idea where
the conversation was going to go. So I'm just giving
you a heads up. Yes, you're listening to the Q
and A episode, and I do ask Andrea question. She's
a guest, uh, and she's come on before she does
(00:23):
my spray tands. She gives facials. Um, you know, she
came on to talk about ice rolling. But anyway, we
went rogue a little bit. We derailed, which I know.
If I just want to give you heads up. If
you're a new listener and you're like, what is happening,
I don't understand. If you're if you've been listening to
me for a long time, then you're like, oh, this
is normal. But I just wanted to let y'all know
(00:44):
that we definitely took a little detour in the middle
of it, and I was shocked to learn I had
no idea. I love when we learned new things about
our friends and our people, but that Andrea has dealt
with an eating disorder before so we went, uh and
talked about that for little bit because of something cool
that I'm working on in the next month or two
(01:04):
for the podcast with Lisa from at the Well Necessaries.
So I just want to let you all know this
is a long Q and A. We do answer some
beauty questions all mixed in with our conversation, but I
hope you enjoy listening and maybe I guess it's probably
gonna be about fifty minutes long. So maybe you've got
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a long drive, or you've got a lot to do,
or you're on a long walk with your dog, or
you're doing laundry or whatever it is that you're doing.
I hope that this Q and A, uh my little
chit chat with Andrea where we do answer some questions.
It's not a Q and A with questions from you
guys like I normally do. It's just stuff I went
over with her with some sidebar conversations. So I just
(01:48):
wanted to give you all a headstuff on that. Here
we go here, it is okay, it is Tuesday, back back,
like officially back. I had a new Q and A
episode up last Tuesday, and but the four Things on Thursday.
Last Thursday was the best of So we're officially back
(02:09):
in business. And the Q and A I had up
was with Bobo, So if you want to hear that,
he did the last two Q and a's with me,
and if you're looking to catch up, you can go
do that. We just I recorded those like three weeks ago.
So this finally feels like I'm back, and I have
my friend Andrea here with me. She's come on the
podcast before in the four Things episode and been like
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one of the things because we talked about ice rolling.
Do we do that and as a thing it was
a thing? Yeah, So we'll kind of recap on ice
rolling at the end of this Q and A. But
I'm going to kind of go over a lot of
questions that I get and Andrea gets, because honestly, I'm
recording this and I am fresh back from vacation and
I really tried to take a break and rest and
(02:50):
just not you know, look at podcast emails and my
work email or anything. Honestly, I can't even log into
my work email. I mean, I get a lot of
work emails to my personal account now because my work
kind of knows I don't really check that that much.
But I'm totally locked out and I do not know why,
so I am terrified to log in because it's just
(03:13):
gonna be a hot mess. But you know what, that
is a great tip for like beauty and wellness and
like a new Year is truly like you gotta unplug,
like have to get away. Yeah, you have to. I mean,
I think it is important to recharge, and I did.
And I even told my friend Mary this, I said,
I mean, I'm gonna totally I'm gonna disconnect. I don't
know which days it's going to be, but I mean
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from Instagram everything for I wanted to do it for
I don't know, forty eight hours or so, and I
did for certain hours throughout maybe even like twelve, but
I didn't do I didn't do it, and I'm so
mad at myself. And the same way I tell people
all the time, I'm like, no, you gotta take time
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for yourself, like you gotta make you know, time for facials,
make time for massages, do that you time and like
block it out. I don't for myself or like a
hot bath, which we're going to talk about. It doesn't
always have to be something or maybe ice rolling. It
could be something like you can do at home with yourself.
It doesn't cost anything, but it is still an investment
in you, and I felt like that was going to
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be a free investment in me. Was just maybe even
removing what I needed to do and I didn't do.
But I was also trying to post a splat stuff
because I run that account and we've got our Gratitude
journals and I was so excited about that. We I mean,
we've had them for a little bit, but we just
started shipping them out for Christmas, like people had them
in their hands. It's yeah, and we were posting about them,
(04:40):
and I was excited to see that, and Mary was like,
we worked really hard on that, so it was really
special to see people using it and posting it. And
I was using it, so I wanted to post about it.
And speaking of that, um, I think we're going to
do a Gratitude thirty day challenge. I don't think it'll
be thirty days, though, it might be February which is
twenty eight days, which is perfect because that's four exact
(05:00):
weeks and it's for things, so it's like for things,
gratitude journal for weeks and then be a challenge where
everybody does it and we hold each other accountable and
we post about it. And then I'm doing a thing
on my personal Instagram Radio Amy where if people are
posting like I want to repost there is I'm gonna
pick one each day to repost on my stories just
(05:20):
to encourage people to that you can do it. It's
not intimidating because do you journal. I So I don't journal, journal,
but I do write gratitude every day and I write goals.
So I did Rachel Hollis Is like Last ninety Days
a few years ago, and so it just helped me
actually write ten goals and write ten things that I'm
grateful for. So that just kind of started, and that's
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really my journaling. And then I'm a huge, like calendar writer.
I have to keep up with all my appointments. I'm
always going somewhere all the time. So that's the extent
of my journaling. But gratitude every day, like it changes
your entire day when you actually just like write down
things that you're already grateful for, and then you start
to pick up like it just I swear you see
more things that you're grateful for throughout the day once
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you already that gratitude mindset, right, I saw my perspectives,
which when I was really taking the time to be
intentional about things I was thankful for. I was really
in a bad mood about my decision to fly into
where we flew into. It was my call, and I
was still mad at myself, and I even wrote down
in my journal when I was thankful for something regarding
that that still mad at myself. I put an asterisk.
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But after I wrote it all out and I really
thought about it, I was like, that was the right call,
Like it was the right thing to do. And I'm
thankful to have a father in law that drove to
pick us up and a husband that drove another hour
to get a rental car because it saved us so
much money on airline tickets. And I was just thankful
for the people in my life that made that flying
in there possible. But I mean, I was rumpy about it,
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but then it made me stop being grumpy about it.
But then I even revisited it. When I was on
the phone with Mary. She asked me about it because
she saw that I posted on my gratitude journal. She's like,
what was that whole ben? How to drive somewhere for
a rental car, and I was like, ah, I can't
believe I did that, but it's still at the time,
I needed to write that down and it did help
me and it does make you realize it. So and
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when I don't do it, because there are some days
I just don't I have an earlier day, I don't
get up early enough to do it, and I will
maybe do a couple of days without it, my mood changes,
Like it makes such a difference to write down gratitude
every single day and every day. So that's what Mary
and I always found gratitude or journaling to be intimidating.
(07:30):
So we thought, well, with our four Things brand, what
if we made it way to journal that we would
actually use. That's not scary, that's simple. That's like literally,
you can jot down four things. It can be a
paragraph for each thing, or it can be one word,
or it can be a sticker. We put stickers so
it could be so that to us was and we
put a bunch of prompts in the back that ask
you you can read through and skim and guide you
(07:53):
through it. Yeah, because sometimes you're like, I don't even
know where to start my brain is harsh. I'm tired.
I don't even know. But when you read through some
of the questions and the prompts, you'll start to see, Oh, yeah,
you know, I did have a friend that I got
to hang out. You know, I did, um, you know,
get to I did drink clean water today. Sometimes we
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take that for granted, and it seems silly to write
that down, But no, when you write it down and
you focus on it and you're intentional about it, you
really that's like, that's something that so many of us
take for granted. Um. So yeah, Mary and I are
going to do We're gonna do a challenge. But people
can um you know, radio amy dot com to get
links to anything a squaw. But you don't even have
(08:37):
to have a four Things Gratitude journal to participate. I
want to be clear on that because I get not
everybody can go buy a journal if you can feel
good about it because it goes to help education. And
Haiti and Mary and I worked out on it's super
cute and we love it. But if you can't get
any old book, it doesn't matter. Any journal and just
you know, jot down four things and participate and just
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use the hashtag four things gratitude and um, you know,
we'll see if we can start to make I think
you're going to make a start home, make a chain
of positivity. I think it will. I really really do.
So we'll see. And we're Mary and are doing it
for us to do it, and I'm gonna do it
with you. And the journal is first of all, if
you just look at that journal, you're in a good mood.
(09:17):
It's beautiful. Yeah, thank you. That means a lot. It's
really cute. The Macha recipe, oh yeah, we threw in
a recipe in the back, um which we're going to
go over some recipes with Andrew here, but not not
for consumption, but for like your face and a bathtub.
And you know Andrea, I mentioned that she has come
on before, but she I met Andrea because she does
(09:41):
spray Tands organic spray Tands in Nashville Laura Lee, which
she posted about you on Instagram, so I she tagged
you and I clicked on it, which her instagram is
Naturally True Beauty. And her name is Andrea Turner. And
you know you came over and I and was like, okay,
I just love everything about her so sweet and kind
(10:02):
and as I followed you on Instagram, I learned more
about you and um, I think since it's we mentioned
a second ago about me time, we're gonna go over
a couple of different things. I'll give you all a
little heads up. We're gonna talk like hot baths. We're
gonna talk spray tans organic, what the d h A is,
why it's bad for you and your lungs, and how
(10:23):
your stuff has walnuts in it to make the color
and not red dye because you might be getting spray
tans somewhere that's using some of this stuff that's not
great for you, and so Andrea can fill us in
on that. And we're going to talk about uh like
a let's see like some detox ta s uh like
your go to for skincare because you do facials, and
(10:47):
uh like at home stuff people can do like little
recipes and you know where people should invest their money
when it comes to that. And then we'll recap with
some ice rolling, since you're the person that also introduced
me to ice rolling, so I've we've talked about baths
on the podcast before, like the four things like I
love a good hot bath. I awesome. I'm a big
(11:07):
fan of freezing cold showers, so in the morning, I'll
do a freezing cold shower. But I since my kids
moved in and they took over my bathtub well, because
the only bathtub we have in our house is upstairs
in between their rooms, and it's just I don't go
up there anymore because it's not as relaxing because it's
just their space. But I need to start doing that. So, um,
(11:29):
I know you mentioned that you put powdered goats milk
in your bath and I need to know why. So
I just noticed that so many like if you go
to like a craft fair any kind of like market
like that, they have all this goat's milk, you know,
soap and lotions, and it's so soothing and calming and
healing for the skin with like soriass eggema and stuff
(11:50):
like that, and I just never understood why they never
put it in like skincare or you know. It was
kind of realizing, like, why is this ingredient in so
much stuff? So of course I did the research, found
the healing aspects of it, and um, just how soothing
it was naturally, and so I just started, like I thought,
why not just throw it in some EPs some salt too,
(12:11):
because that can kind of be drying in a way.
Um it is very healing and therapeutic and helps with inflammation.
But I like to like Yin and yang. That's how
I am with all skincare. Well. I love that too.
Because you also put coconut oil in your bath, which
I have never done. That's why I wanted you to
share your little recipe with everyone, because um I did not.
I've shared my hot bath recipe before and it's basically
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just epps and salt, some lavender and baking soda, which
is great. I kind of go like on the fancy
route of like dried flowers, So I have tons of roses.
I love eucalyptus like stuff like that, Like just fresh flowers.
I will just dehydrate them. I have a dehydrator at home.
You could truly just dry them, like hang them upside down,
let them just dry naturally. So I tend to do
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a lot of roses just because they smell good, they're pretty,
and they kind of turn your bath like this pretty
pink color. Okay, but that's like next level, actually next
I know, I know I'm a little extra, but so
you can do dehydrated flowers if you want, you could do.
Um a scoop of coconut oil. That's a big thing
to me. I always add like just a big spoonful
right in the tub. Um. I do at least like
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a table spoon of the goat's milk powder because that
we get that grocery store. Honestly, Um, it should be
in because I remember having to like find this thing,
so I think it's in like the dried milk sections,
so like we're like the carnation instant breakfast. The powder,
I feel like I've seen it and it's like this
you showy purple tin and it has a goat on it.
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You'll know it. When I found it, I was like, oh,
I've seen this thing a million times, and you get
a big old tub of it, it will last you
so long and it just melts really nicely in the tub.
So powdered goat's milk, coconut oil, EPs some salt, which
I do like two cups, but really you can just
look on the back of the bag and it'll tell you.
But that's typically what I use. And then sometimes I
do like lavender lavender essential oils g eight um and
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then if you really wanted to treat yourself some roses,
if you really want to go over the top, you
can throw in some dehydrated flat about if we want
to make it more of a detox bath. Detox bath
you could do Okay. I know everybody's probably seen the
Aztec Indian clay. It's a big jar of dry powder.
Some people use it for their face. You can totally
do that, but you can do a scoop of that
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in your tub. And I would definitely add a scoop
of coconut oil sorry into it to add that extra hydration.
So if you do the az Tech, yeah, you better
do the coconut I would suggest it. It's just a
little drying, which I have never obviously, I know that
all that stuff is drying, but I never thought about
how I need to rehydrate. Yeah, oh yeah, Like I'm
big on Like I said again, Yin Yang, if we're
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going to do like a facial peel, we gotta put
like a nice hydrating mask on afterwards, so that as
Tech clay is amazing for detox. You can do it
under your arms for like an under armed detox if
you've been using regular denodorant whole other thing, but like
throw that on. You can do that. But I do
love the tub aspect. It kind of just detoxes if
you've you know, if you need, if you've had a
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holiday and had too much to eat and drink. It's
just a great detox. But just throw that scoop of
I have a whole jar of coconut oil in your
bad bathrooms, just a regular spoon that I just we
all have that one random spoon that doesn't you know,
fit in our utensils. It's like, where did it come from?
That's in my bathroom, and that's what I scoot my
coconut oil with perfect. Okay, So I want to ask
you about spray tansy. So obviously I've been loreally posted
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about you. I saw like, oh wow, she doesn't organic
spray tan, which I don't know that. I've always been
receiving organic um. And then I've always kind of thought
to I'll do self application at home too, like if
I use santrope or whatever, and that's not you know, honestly,
santrope is my favorite. If you're going to use more
of a cleaner one, it's not straight up organic, but
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they do use a cleaner organic d h A, which
I am happy with. So oh that is not bad
when you're at home. Um, there's no Yeah, there's a
couple of whole foods that I've seen I've not tried yet, Um,
that are supposed to be like self tanners. I'd still
stick to my Santro pay to be honest. And then
I've seen other other ones I've not tried yet that
are cleaner. Well okay, And obviously if you're in Nashville,
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then you're in luck because Andrew is here and you
can just go to Naturally True Beauty and Booker she
comes to your house. It's amazing. But you know, if
people are interviewing potential new or calling around and they
need a spray tan, what are What's something they need
to look out for? So I know there's lots of
concerns with like d h A. I would say definitely
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get an organic one because that's just going to be
the safest option. But and that's what we don't want
to breathe in. It's not so much that it's going
through skins. That that's why when you do around my face,
you're like hold your breath, hold your breath, and like
I do have little nose plugs that people can, you know,
stick up their nose if they want to. Um, which
you need to be wearing. My husband has so he
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told me, he was like, you've got he bought me
a mask. I have one now. I officially have a
mask because I did, like I mean, if it's like
c m A Awards, I did like fourteen in a day,
So I learned masks. I have a mask now. Um,
but it's just more so organic DHA is important, but
I think that there are brands that have organic d
h A, but they also have red dyes in them,
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and I think that's a big issue. Is more of
like the coloring agent because that's what's gonna, you know,
kind of get on the skin and the red dye.
It's so we use walnuts and we have caramel, so
that is so I do eliminate a loss. Yes, yes,
I do eliminate a huge a lot of huge. But
I do have to turn away people that have a
nut allergy because I'm just I just don't want to
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risk it. But um, I would rather use that and
have a really good clean ingredient list. Um. It's all
sourced from California. They work with local farmers in California.
It's really cool. They really support that small business and
so it's California based and it's just a really clean thing.
You can read the ingredients and you feel really good
about what's in them, and they're very minimal, where some
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have an organic d h A and I mean you
can't even you know, read them. The word is not
even something you can pronounce. So what are people supposed
to ask? Like if they're say, I have someone in
you know, Arizona list now and they're like, I don't know, Yeah,
I would just ask, you know, you could ask brands,
you could ask if there is I would really ask,
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what is your coloring like agent to it? Minus the
d h A. I would make sure it's organic and
I would just see if there are coloring agents to it.
That would be my main thing. Okay, that's that's really
my main concern, just like red dice stuff like that. Okay,
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I should have asked this when we were talking about
detox slats, because I think like at night it's good
to have like a detox bath, and I know you
and I have talked about like having a hot cup
of tea at night kind of love it wind down
a little bit, um. And then we started to also
talking about hot lemon water because I am a big
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fan of half a lemon in water every morning, um
like eight ounces of warm water and I kind of
squeeze the lemon and I'll pour a little cold water
on top, and then I'll hit it with the warm
water after that's that way. The hot water I don't know.
I read somewhere and now I can't even aware, and
who knows if it's even true, But if the hot
water hit the lemon straight on, it would kill some
(19:30):
of those I mean, that makes sense though some of
whatever is happening in there, so I don't know makes sense.
That's my kind of routine. But you were talking about
how you have sensitive teeth, so you don't use the
half a limon. You use hot water with one drop
of a lemon essential. Yeah, So I was going to
ask you about that because I have no idea if
that you still find that to be as effective? Do
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I do? Um? You know? And I follow a bunch
of like health people that I love, and they swear
that it does not affect their teeth when they use
fresh lemon. It as for me, I don't know, just
I guess I'm really sensitive. But um so I really
stopped because I would find just my teeth would be
so sensitive, and I'm like, well, I gotta figure out something.
So I just did a drop of lemon oil in it,
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and I do find that it is still that like
detox and it is, you know, an extract from the lemon,
So I feel like it should still do the trick. Yeah,
I know of other people and I do like great
fruit oil too, because that's a great like detox kind
of helps with them metabolism too. Really, oh I had
that's what I heard. Yeah, okay, so that's something you
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can drink either in the morning or at night if
you wanted to. Or Yogi is another brand of tea
that makes like a good detox te um. I used
to drink Dandelion Route yea two detox and it's kind
of gross, it is. Yeah, I you know, I bought
a box of that a while ago because I heard
about it and it's had a hard time. I did
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have a hard time. I would have to doctor it.
I would put in maybe half a lemon and then
I would put in like a drop of liquid stevia,
but still I'm passing something they don't like. It was
just not fun. I was just an unhealthy place where
I was like I don't think I was, which I'm
gonna Lisa from at the Well Necessities. I met her
on Instagram. We've never met in person, but we're going
(21:17):
to and we're kind of coming up with the a
series that we're gonna do on the Four Things podcast
where um, it's all about like how we got disordered
eating at times where you get fixated. What tattoo? What
is that? The National Eating Disorder Association tattoo? So that's
like my leg when I meditate. I look at it
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every day to remind myself gratitude. I didn't know you
had an eating I was like, I was in ballet
and you have and you have a tattoo. I didn't
know there was a national eating simple why and one
of my best friends got this years ago. Um, both
struggled with it at the same time and didn't know what.
We were comparing each other, like comparing ourselves to each
other and we're like in this horrible headspace. But yeah,
I took ballet, I was in beauty pageants. I had
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like the worst way to grow up and like in
vision that was so pretty. You know, I look back
into Mike Andrea get it together, but I just beat
myself up, I mean control of my life. So that
was like big for me. Do you mind talking about it?
I know this wasn't even know. I literally had no
idea you had that huge. Maybe make it. You know,
we're going to have different guests on and I you
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know what I want because I want to make sure
we cover what we're spect today and then we'll get
back on it. But especially as we start the new year,
and so many people are like, it's a new year
if you have any kind of at least from my
experience with me, and this is stuff I've learned really
in the last eight months or so, is when you
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have any kind of eating disorder or disordered eating past,
any like triggers can be a new new time of
year where you may start a new way of eating
or a new like Okay, I'm not going to have
this or I'm gonna diet, Like diet just isn't even
in my vocabulary more because it's a trigger. So I
(23:03):
can't do that. And so it's appropriate that Lisa and
I are going to start working on it in the
new year. I don't know when it will release, but
she is so wise and like she has a program
called fork the Noise, where a lot of it is
just in our brain. You have to shut it down,
Like you said, we're like, what was wrong with me?
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I was beautiful? And where did this start? And a
lot of us spend time in therapy and trying to
figure out, Oh, well, is because my dad left? I mean,
and maybe some of that played a role, but a
lot of it just was because I started dieting at
a young age. Oh my gosh, I mean it, and
it was it caused my brain to like it really
caused an unhealthy relationship with food where I my body
(23:47):
would think I was starving, so we would want to eat, eat, eat, eat,
and then I would think, oh my god, I ate
way too much, so I'm going to throw up, Like
it was a vicious cycle, when really, yeah, maybe my
dad leaving made a role in some of my mo
sational stability and my dependence on comfort and food and whatnot.
But how far I let it go was it just
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was like I needed to, like Lisa says, fork the Noise,
but I had nobody had given me those tools, and
I think what people say things like when I was
a kid, so my mom cleans houses for a living,
I've got She's like, I'm with her all the time.
She's a tiny little thing. She's like five two and
maybe pounds to this day, she's just tiny. I'm not
I'm five nine. I'm tall. I'm broad shouldered, like I'm
(24:28):
just a taller person. So from like eight years old,
I'm like at these houses my mom she's cleaning them,
and it's like these like a little like old ladies
that she's cleaning for. And they're like, you must be
shaped like your dad, And I'm like, my dad looks
like magnum p I. He's like has a mustache and
he's like as an eight year old girl, I see
him as a massive man, and I'm like, that's what
I look like, you know what I mean. Like it
(24:49):
like nessed me up from that age, rom like can't
you just be like a taller eight year old? You
know what I mean? Like why am I getting compared
to like obviously my mom, who I'm not shaped like
at all. So it was always like a comparison to
like my little mom. And I'm like, yeah, well I
don't know. I don't know what to tell you. And
so what age did you with that with your tattoo
(25:12):
when you got them? Was that at a recovery point?
That was a recovery point. But still like it's like
it's all the time, you know, I'm always thinking of,
you know, trying to get out of my head, of
beating myself up. So that's why it's on my leg
when I meditate with gratitude. Once again, it's like I
have legs that can move, I can work at like
I can do all these things. It's not punishment, it's
(25:33):
thanking your body for actually working and functioning. And that's
why I do this stuff and I try to stay mindful.
But it was like, gosh, I mean from seven eight
I remember that, Like, I mean, I'm pretty sure, like
my friend's dad called me and her like the three Husketeers,
Oh my god, like okay, So you know, it's just
like growing up in that time you said that, it
(25:54):
was like people didn't think about it. Probably still say
things without really thinking how it can really Yeah, my
custory of your ye, my cousins are and seventeen. Um
I said eighteen. A couple of weeks ago when I
was corrected quickly she has seventeen um. So they I
just I can see it, and I would never want
that to happen them. Like I see their youth, and
(26:16):
I would just be so upset if somebody took that
away from them, and like it's just I mean, even
things that they've said, like with sporting and coaches that
have said stuff to them, I'm like, you don't realize,
like that one thing could just snap and ruin their youth.
And I just I think people aren't aware of like
what can affect girls, and we're just like put up
at this really high um level of what we should
(26:39):
look like all the time and what we see all
the time. And so I think it's good just to
kind of realize, like not everybody's super like tiny and
little and petite, Like just because you're tall doesn't mean
that you're big, you know, or whatever. It's like we
all have different body shapes, and as long as we're
taking care of ourselves in a healthy way, there's nothing
more you can do. I'm still adjusting to the fact
(26:59):
that like I tried eat as best I can, try
to work out as much as I can, and like
this is the body I have, you know what I mean,
Like for the longest time, it was like starving it
and I was somewhat skinny, but like I don't know
what my body should really when did you and your
friend find out about your were? Like nineteen twenty is
(27:20):
Um it was really bad, like my junior senior year
of high school. Um, And like I said, I did ballet,
I bought a really expensive prom dress and my mom
put me in a beauty pageant so I could rewear it.
That was probably not the best for like a young
girl that was really critical of herself. So that was
a rough time too. I mean you're literally comparing yourself
to everybody else. Um. And then college happened and it
(27:42):
was like it probably wasn't it like the best relationship either,
so not good. Probably my freshman year of college. And
then I think we all kind of like had this
realization of how unhealthy we each were. And you know,
I had a good cry and a good revelation about it.
And you know, it's still a struggle. I think we
all had to find different um solutions. You know, Like
(28:03):
she really dove into like cross fit and working out,
and like I'm going to find health and like go
all in and I like went off the deep end
and was like live life and I ate a ton
of it. So it was like I was having to
recover from like not having boundaries anymore and like having
to get back to eating healthy and then you found
your new normal. Yes, I found my new normal, but
(28:24):
it is it's I mean, they're not kidding, like I
think I've researched it's like seven year recovery. I don't
think it ever. I think there's constant relapse, you know,
and well, and I have not been super vocal about mine.
Some of it is just finding the being comfortable and
brave and it's enough to talk about to talk about
(28:46):
it too much, so like some people, I'm just like
they wouldn't get it yet some learning or the more
I look into it is so many people are suffering
and there they feel like they're alone or that people
might judge them, you know, because it's not awesome, Like
no one's like like I love that I have an
(29:08):
issue with food. Um, so like there's nothing if someone
has an issue. This is gonna sound weird, but I
mean I'm just gonna say it because I truly feel
this way. Like if someone's got other addicted to drugs
or alcohol, it's kind of like, oh, wow, okay, yeah,
that's yeah, but it's like, oh to me, I feel
like if they were to hear she's got an issue
with food, that people would be like, oh, why can't
(29:30):
she get it together? People's problem what happens and the
way you see things, like in the way you see yourself.
Not that being addicted to alcohol or drugs is like
glamorous by any means, but something about having an issue
with food and versus those seems different to me. And
I'm not I'm not saying that that's right, but it doesn't,
like I feel like to me, some people may struggle
(29:52):
with talking about any addiction that I had, but for me,
I'm just like, like, knowing that I ate or would
make myself throw up like just does not sound it's gross.
It is. And that's not like a nut saying it disgross.
I'm saying like it is something that you feel uncomfortable,
like mentioning, Like I want people to love their bodies
and I don't want anybody to waste a free moment
(30:14):
like I wasted so much of my time. But it
is something that once I kind of start talking about it.
I'm like, gosh, it should I say, like do people
do they care? Do they get it? But I think
that they do. Think that That's what Lisy and Lisa
and I were talking about. I literally called her I
was leaving my dad had to go to the hospital.
I he was like, not good, Like I had so
many flashbacks of when my mom died, and just to
(30:36):
quickly give and then we'll have to get into the
rest of like why um the little questions I wanted
to ask you, but you know I did. I have
probably I don't even know twenty my early twenties, put
it away, done with it, and I was on my
road to healing whatever. And then at thirty three my
(30:57):
mom died. Was my thirty three whatever you're was uh?
In two thousand fourteen, and literally the day after she died,
I couldn't. I do not know what happened, but it
all returned and it had been years, like over ten
twelve years. Maybe I couldn't explain it. A therapist tried
(31:18):
to tell me that like a time capsule in the
back of my head opened up and like trauma, which
it had to be. It had to be that I
was hit so traumatically and it was my I literally
didn't know what to do, so I went back to
trying to control something. And but I still think maybe
I wasn't. But here's the thing, and I want to
(31:38):
talk through it with Lisa and stuff we're gonna unpack
when we do this little series. I think I had
stopped throwing up, but I had not figured out my
issue with food. So the throwing up something that came
with the trigger of my mom dying. But in those
ten years, even though I wasn't throwing up, I didn't
have a healthy relationship with food. I was, which this
(31:59):
not my brain. I I always find my way back
always this Originally, why I even ever brought this up
was why I was freaking drinking dandelions. I had. Uh.
I don't know that I had this, but I see
people post about all the time that they might have, Um,
what is it called orthorexia or something you're you're it's
(32:23):
a disordered eating where you're trying to eat healthy all
the time, like which doesn't make sense, like when you're
so hyper focused. Me, there's what you're putting in your body.
You can go one into the other, and so I
mean I had read somewhere that you're drink danil and
tea and I was like, well, well I'm gonna do it.
I'm gonna so. I mean, my whole regimen was very
(32:50):
and it was so rigid and like I probably has
no fun to be around. And before any event, I
was juicing and d talk because like, I feel like
I was a constantly d talxing. But it's amazing about
our bodies as they detox. I think it's important to
help it along and there's no harm in like a
hot bath or some dandelion tea if you want it.
(33:11):
I was making myself drink it every day and it
was disgusting. So now to buy it now, I'm like,
I'm such a rebel now where I'm like, I don't
even want to tell you all about dan delion tea,
but what if you like it exactly? So I want
to tell you that it's a good detox tea, but
just know that. I feel like now I want to
say here on this podcast too, I have a lot
(33:31):
of different people come on, we talk about a lot
of different things. I feel like I'm not an expert
in any of it. I do not claim to be
um I don't want anybody to ever listen to this
and walk away and think, oh, I'm supposed to do
this now, x Y and Z. I've even had people
email me like I can't listen anymore because I get
conflicting information and they're not in a healthy enough place
to where they can separate. Okay, this is for me,
(33:53):
and this is not for me, and I've been there
and that's okay, and I have to let that listener
go and be like, you know what, I'm sorry, but
I can't. I also can't a four things podcast that's
gonna be very diverse. I cannot cater to everybody, and
you know it. So I've just That's also another disclaimer
of anything you hear Andrew and I talked about doesn't
mean that you need to you know, run and put aztec,
(34:15):
you know, play in your bath so you can detox.
It's really just maybe one night this type of concoction
is for you, and it'll be really nice and soothing
and feel good and uh, you know, maybe it's not
for you. But what what Lisa and I want to
do eventually once we record it is, oh, I know
where I was. My dad was in the hospital and
(34:38):
I was. It was just I had all this flashbacks
of my mom when she was near end of life,
when things just really started going downhill, and my dad
was just it was just like not good. And I
was like, what is happening? And you know, I just
had flashbacks and it's very They're very vivid, and it
feels very real, and I get and then I'm like,
(34:59):
oh my gosh, but I do feel like in the
last eight months, I am in a better place and
I am trying to figure this whole what the heck
is this fork the noise thing? And um my, how
much my brain plays into the eating and how you
literally can like tell yourself, okay, like are you really
(35:19):
what is happening right now? Shut it down? Shut it down.
And that can be not even just food, but negative
self talk, self talk that's like not positive, and you
just have to shut it down. And the more you
shut it down, the less it will show up. And
you know, I called Lisa from the parking garage because
I just thought, oh my gosh, normally, maybe with a
(35:43):
trigger like that, who knows, I maybe would want to
just like go eat or not eat, or and not
eat for a day or eat and then throw up
or whatever the case. But I felt so at peace
with it, even though I was concerned for my dad
and I was stressed, I didn't have any of that.
And I was like, oh my gosh, I want everyone
(36:06):
to feel this way. I want women or men. Yeah,
but I but I guess just I'll be honest, I
was thinking women, I want other women to feel this freedom. Yes,
it's true. It's huge, and I think it is a
matter of like you're saying, it's not it's not about
I gotta lose weight. I'm taking a detox. I do
it when I'm like, I feel bloated. I can feel
(36:29):
that my digestive system needs a break. That's when I
and that's it's not about me losing weight. It's about
listening to my body. But that's being in a healthy place.
For so long, I was in a not healthy place
where it was like, I mean, my body was probably like, okay,
can we can we lay low on the detoxic for
a minute because you're like doing all kinds of things
(36:50):
all the time. And yeah, it's just a nice balance,
but it is. It's something big when you can reach
and it's hard. It's hard, like getting like you getting
past the noise in your head and enjoying life, Like
my day would be ruined if I ate something bad,
and I'm like, this is just silk. Yeah, this is
just life is so precious. I am so thankful for
(37:12):
so many things. And I do believe like gratitude and
writing that down really puts things in perspective where you're like,
where did you find out about the National Eating Disorder whatever?
Actually from my friend, SO was like I have tattoos already,
and she was like I want to get one. I
want to be reminded of it every day, so hers
is more on her risk when she does her makeup.
And I was thinking, like I love this, Like I
(37:34):
had this. I really didn't even tell my family, like
they just thought it was probably very skinny. I don't
talk about it really with them. It's still very taboo.
And I think that's why we feel uncomfortable talking about
it because some people just it's not a huge thing
that we talked about when I was younger or whatever.
But um, yeah, she showed me it and I was like,
that is amazing. I follow them. Do they do walks?
(37:55):
They do like Awareness Week. It's it's really cool. So
it's nice to see that there is a huge munity
that's no idea you have to fall. I think it's
just need a UM like an E D A and
so UM. Yeah. I just think that it's really cool
to bring awareness to UM what a lot of people
are probably going through and they have no idea that
(38:15):
has talked about it a little bit. So I reached
out to her and then now I know you. So
when Lisa and I do record it, I want to
get a bunch of normal girls. UM. I don't know
if we can find a guy, a guy I'm sure,
just to share a little bit about their story. I
don't We're going to meet. I have to go to
New York in a couple of weeks for work, and
(38:36):
I'm going to meet with her. We're going to try
to lay it all out. UM. So I guess I
probably shouldn't even talk about what it's going to look
like because I don't even know yet, but I do know.
That's part of my vision is having experts but also
just normal everyday people that have found their way to
the other side UM and just sharing so that for
one people don't feel alone. That's one of my main
(39:00):
goals of this podcast in general is all the different
things is for people to know they're not alone. And
then secondly that there is freedom, yes and um and
that if you are if food or disordered, eating or
eating disorders is something that you struggle with. UM. So okay,
(39:21):
I'm excited. I think I know we've got to just
quickly get through. UM. Let's see, let's talk about your
like your go to I know that you're big on
like cleansing, like you know, where what should people do
every day? And you know you're like cleans, tone, treat, moisturize, protect,
(39:41):
that's like once a week a mask, once a week
a mask. And if you're gonna do a mask, I
say an enzyme peel. That's like my that's my opinion. Okay,
so what so I love um, I love a beauty
Counters charcoal mask, love it. And I love drunk elephant
baby facial. So those in I don't Beauty Counter would
actually be great if you're a little bit more oily
(40:03):
congested by all means to do that once a week.
You can use that as a spot treatment too. I
love that mask, love it. The drunk elephant is going
to be more so that charcoal mask is more detoxifying
um poor clarifying. The drunk elephant is going to be
more of that like chemical exfoliation that I was telling
you about, like with the fruit enzyme, so you could
do that once a week. I think Beauty Counter has
(40:25):
a um like an overnight peel, like you put it on,
said the microphone. You put it on, and that's supposed
to be really good. And my favorite, my shell fruit
Fiesta peel. It's like a four to five minute mask.
Like we all have four to five minutes, we might
not all have twenty. So you put it on, it tingles,
it burns, you wash it off. What is You're good
to go. It's called fruit Fiesta peel and it's a
(40:48):
mix of fruit enzymes that eaty waite dead skin cells.
It's going to brighten and it gets those cells to
turn over with that tingling um. So I do that
once a week and I swear by it, okay, and
like back to the whole cleansed tongue and treat so
like cleansing, you're just like whatever face washing for you,
as long as you don't feel super tight, you know,
and dry afterwards, go with whatever cleanser works for you
(41:10):
and then you do have like this isn't I'm not
having Andrean to talk about specific like brands or anything.
We're just kind of talking about what we like. But
even you have a d I y toner. I do
have a y tone. So what's that? It is water
and whit Chasel apple cider vinegar. Make sure you get
like the good brand with like the mother in it,
like a really yeah high quality um, yes, yeah, I
(41:31):
love that one apple cider vinegar, witch Chasel. I do
know alcohol in the witchaesel solif um water and then
like a lavender essential oil. You could do a great
I don't know that I could put that on my face.
I know, like and so you could do that in
there just for the smell. Other than that, it's really
I don't lavender oil in my face. I know. Well
that's with the water and all that. So it is
(41:52):
just but it really is more for smell because like
my husband likes tell me, I smell like a salad
dressing because of the apple cider vinegar. It go away.
The smell does go away. So it makes a big
jar and you can keep it in your fridge to
keep it nice and cool, or you can just put
it wherever I keep it fridge. And Andrew has this
recipe on our highlights page on our Instagram, which is
naturally true beauty um and so cleans or whatever you
(42:15):
can whatever toner or you can make your own. Like
treat would be like a spot treat, like I have
a treat is going to be serum. So that is
going to be like treatment as in, let's like really
get into what your main issue is. Is that hyper pigmentation,
is it clarifying breakouts and clogged pores? Is it finelines
(42:36):
and wrinkles, and so the treatment is going to be
your serum, So pick whatever sarum you need to kind
of focus on that issue. And that's the one that
I would spend the money on. I mean, but how
do people how would you recommend people find out which
one they need? Um, you can always be a me
and I'm happy to help people over Instagram. I love
to help. But um, you know, you can always look
(42:56):
at your favorite brands online and they usually have like
sections you'll see brightening, anti aging, breakouts. You know, like
you can kind of go from there. They help you, yes,
and they'll break them down. And then moisturizer obviously that
can be personal preference. But just make sure that you're
moisturizing because it's super important and daytime, make sure you're
protecting and then you know, yeah like a mask once
(43:18):
a week. Uh So then you know where should people
where should people invest their money? Because even um, the
Nashville beauty girl Carrie, she comes on, she is my
estetiction pretty much. I mean I don't I don't know.
She's like a nurse practitioner, so I don't know that
what I'm getting from her. Like if I feel like
(43:40):
maybe more so, I would call you my astetition, like
if I came for you for like a facial and extraction,
Like she doesn't really extract per se, but she'll do
like if I get a like the medical like botox,
that's different absolutely, so that's separate, very skilled in the medical.
She used to be like a nurse and to thank you,
(44:01):
you don't want me doing any sort of medical treatments?
Yeah no, no, no, right so but she even has
said to like, yeah, you just gotta find a cleanser
that's like good for you, like servate like over the
counter or anything that. She's also a big fan of
hy yah. Uh well, just thousand times. It's weight in moisture,
very hydrading. So yes, so speaking of hydration, that is good.
(44:21):
So but where should we where should we invest our
money invest I always put money into serum's because they
are going to be pricier. Well some aren't, but I
would say spend the money on the serums that's going
to be your active that's going to be a smaller
molecular structure, so it's going to go deeper into that
dermal level and just be more effective. So that's where
I spend my money. Um, so you could do like
(44:43):
vitamin C serum or an antioxidant seram in the morning
and then at night, do you know, like an anti
wrinkle salam, a peptide serum something like that. That's where
I would spend my money. And then I cream. I
creams huge, and yeah, I just I mean it's big.
I wasn't using I cream like all until the last
few weeks because I got it as a free sample.
(45:03):
I had to buy more face wash and something else.
And if you spend a certain amount, you got a
gift bag. And I opened it up and it was
this I cream and I love it and I do
see the difference, and it's only been a few weeks
and it's just softer, unbelievable. But I put those eye
patches on also everyone, So I'm sort of kind of
(45:23):
overkill probably on the eye area. You can you can
never do too much in the eye area, I would say,
But like I do feel like a lot of people
will put their moisturizer where their eye cream should be,
and then people get those little melia's, those little white spots.
Oh I don't get white spots, but certain eye products
give me a little red dots under my eye. Interesting
so that I'm gonna show like too active or maybe
(45:45):
it's just I think it's a larger like molecular structure.
It's just clogging the pork. I think it's too Maybe
you're right, it's too active. One next time I get it, Yeah,
I'm gonna take a picture and I'm gonna send it
to you and Carrie to and I'm gonna have y'all
analyze it, because I there is an I cream I
got a couple of months ago that and it was
expensive because well, that's where I should invest my money.
(46:05):
And it gave me red dots on her eyes, and
I was like, well, I can't use this, so I
gave it to Mary Um and I don't I think
she uses the same kind anyway, and She's like, no,
it doesn't bother me. It looks looks so weird. Some
of them have retinals in them, and like, if you
use that a few days in a row, you're gonna
get red and so like it's like a little red stars.
Oh and if I get my makeup done, and depending
(46:27):
on what she uses, and I use the same Um
girl all the time, Mars Mars Collins. She's amazing and
she sometimes she uses different products on me though, and
sometimes I'll wash my face after if she does my makeup,
I have it on for hours because it's for an
event or a photo shoot or something, and it'll be
(46:48):
on for hours and then I'll wash my face and
I'll have little red dots under my eyes. Interesting, Yeah,
I wonder, Yeah, I don't know. We can talk about that.
That's a pictures. We'll discuss that. So before we wrap,
we'll just quickly go over ice rolling one more time
in case people missed you, because that's why I had
you on the podcast the first time. And you know
(47:09):
I've got an ice roller up it's all my Amazon
that's the one I ordered that Andrew told me to
get radio me dot com for all my Amazon stuff.
But it is, it's so great, it's amazing. And I
would say sometimes I don't even roll. I just put
it under. I just get it out of the freezer
because that's where I store it, and I wash it
(47:32):
after I use it. I wash it, try it. Then
I put it in a zip block bag and stick
it in the freezer. So that's how I keep it clean.
And then I put it. I just press it under
my eyes and it feels so good. But just recap.
If people are to order one, what are they supposed
to do? So always roll upward and outward, That's what
(47:52):
I say. Um, and just you know, you don't have
to do like a lot of pressure, just lightly just
roll it upward and outward and about for how long?
Because even I have forgot gosh. I mean, you could
go as long as you want to, really if you
if you want to, but I would just say, like
a couple of minutes a day, and you know, just
like hit the forehead. You could go side to side
on the forehead if you want to, or just roll
up it doesn't matter on the forehead, but under the
eyes kind of pressed right around the eyes and go
(48:13):
like inward out on the cheeks. Just roll like up
and out. That's the main thing. And um, I do
it daily if I can. I mean, you could do
it as much as you wanted to. That one is
going to help with inflammation. It's gonna help with breakouts.
It's gonnap with puffiness. Um it just kind of gets
that cell turnovergoing because it wakens that skin up. So
(48:34):
I love the ice roller and I love seeing people roll.
And I'm yes, it's so cheap, um Like, I'm sure
they make more expensive ones, but I think the one
I have up is that's maybe it's like fourteen dollars
before amazing. And if people do have like procedures, if
they get laser treatments, botox, if they get chemical peels, amazing,
just to like soothe and calm uh, irritation, redness, whatever,
(48:58):
you could just put that. Like, there's no skin eye
type that I think I would suggest like to steer
clear of it because it's just so calming and soothing.
It's just such a good roller treatment. Awesome, good, Okay, well,
thank you, thank you, andrewa for coming and just this
was like a special Q and a uh, and we're
just kind of asked Andreas some questions. Occasionally we'll do that,
(49:19):
but we're still taking your questions if you want to
send them in. It's just four Things with Amy Brown
at gmail dot com and then the subject line put
fifth thing question like all caps or something like that. Okay, uh,
and we'll see you on Thursday with a brand new
Four Things podcast episode. The best stubs are over, we're back.
(49:40):
It's new year. We'll have new things to talk about
and lots of really cool interviews coming up this year.
And yeah, I'm just excited to be back. So see
you all then. Bye,
Okay, heads up, this is Amy here, and this is
I'm recording this intro before the intro that you're about
to hear that I did with Andrea, because when I
first started out with her, I had no idea where
the conversation was going to go. So I'm just giving
you a heads up. Yes, you're listening to the Q
and A episode, and I do ask Andrea question. She's
a guest, uh, and she's come on before she does
(00:23):
my spray tands. She gives facials. Um, you know, she
came on to talk about ice rolling. But anyway, we
went rogue a little bit. We derailed, which I know.
If I just want to give you heads up. If
you're a new listener and you're like, what is happening,
I don't understand. If you're if you've been listening to
me for a long time, then you're like, oh, this
is normal. But I just wanted to let y'all know
(00:44):
that we definitely took a little detour in the middle
of it, and I was shocked to learn I had
no idea. I love when we learned new things about
our friends and our people, but that Andrea has dealt
with an eating disorder before so we went, uh and
talked about that for little bit because of something cool
that I'm working on in the next month or two
(01:04):
for the podcast with Lisa from at the Well Necessaries.
So I just want to let you all know this
is a long Q and A. We do answer some
beauty questions all mixed in with our conversation, but I
hope you enjoy listening and maybe I guess it's probably
gonna be about fifty minutes long. So maybe you've got
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a long drive, or you've got a lot to do,
or you're on a long walk with your dog, or
you're doing laundry or whatever it is that you're doing.
I hope that this Q and A, uh my little
chit chat with Andrea where we do answer some questions.
It's not a Q and A with questions from you
guys like I normally do. It's just stuff I went
over with her with some sidebar conversations. So I just
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wanted to give you all a headstuff on that. Here
we go here, it is okay, it is Tuesday, back back,
like officially back. I had a new Q and A
episode up last Tuesday, and but the four Things on Thursday.
Last Thursday was the best of So we're officially back
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in business. And the Q and A I had up
was with Bobo, So if you want to hear that,
he did the last two Q and a's with me,
and if you're looking to catch up, you can go
do that. We just I recorded those like three weeks ago.
So this finally feels like I'm back, and I have
my friend Andrea here with me. She's come on the
podcast before in the four Things episode and been like
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one of the things because we talked about ice rolling.
Do we do that and as a thing it was
a thing? Yeah, So we'll kind of recap on ice
rolling at the end of this Q and A. But
I'm going to kind of go over a lot of
questions that I get and Andrea gets, because honestly, I'm
recording this and I am fresh back from vacation and
I really tried to take a break and rest and
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just not you know, look at podcast emails and my
work email or anything. Honestly, I can't even log into
my work email. I mean, I get a lot of
work emails to my personal account now because my work
kind of knows I don't really check that that much.
But I'm totally locked out and I do not know why,
so I am terrified to log in because it's just
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gonna be a hot mess. But you know what, that
is a great tip for like beauty and wellness and
like a new Year is truly like you gotta unplug,
like have to get away. Yeah, you have to. I mean,
I think it is important to recharge, and I did.
And I even told my friend Mary this, I said,
I mean, I'm gonna totally I'm gonna disconnect. I don't
know which days it's going to be, but I mean
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from Instagram everything for I wanted to do it for
I don't know, forty eight hours or so, and I
did for certain hours throughout maybe even like twelve, but
I didn't do I didn't do it, and I'm so
mad at myself. And the same way I tell people
all the time, I'm like, no, you gotta take time
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for yourself, like you gotta make you know, time for facials,
make time for massages, do that you time and like
block it out. I don't for myself or like a
hot bath, which we're going to talk about. It doesn't
always have to be something or maybe ice rolling. It
could be something like you can do at home with yourself.
It doesn't cost anything, but it is still an investment
in you, and I felt like that was going to
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be a free investment in me. Was just maybe even
removing what I needed to do and I didn't do.
But I was also trying to post a splat stuff
because I run that account and we've got our Gratitude
journals and I was so excited about that. We I mean,
we've had them for a little bit, but we just
started shipping them out for Christmas, like people had them
in their hands. It's yeah, and we were posting about them,
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and I was excited to see that, and Mary was like,
we worked really hard on that, so it was really
special to see people using it and posting it. And
I was using it, so I wanted to post about it.
And speaking of that, um, I think we're going to
do a Gratitude thirty day challenge. I don't think it'll
be thirty days, though, it might be February which is
twenty eight days, which is perfect because that's four exact
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weeks and it's for things, so it's like for things,
gratitude journal for weeks and then be a challenge where
everybody does it and we hold each other accountable and
we post about it. And then I'm doing a thing
on my personal Instagram Radio Amy where if people are
posting like I want to repost there is I'm gonna
pick one each day to repost on my stories just
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to encourage people to that you can do it. It's
not intimidating because do you journal. I So I don't journal, journal,
but I do write gratitude every day and I write goals.
So I did Rachel Hollis Is like Last ninety Days
a few years ago, and so it just helped me
actually write ten goals and write ten things that I'm
grateful for. So that just kind of started, and that's
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really my journaling. And then I'm a huge, like calendar writer.
I have to keep up with all my appointments. I'm
always going somewhere all the time. So that's the extent
of my journaling. But gratitude every day, like it changes
your entire day when you actually just like write down
things that you're already grateful for, and then you start
to pick up like it just I swear you see
more things that you're grateful for throughout the day once
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you already that gratitude mindset, right, I saw my perspectives,
which when I was really taking the time to be
intentional about things I was thankful for. I was really
in a bad mood about my decision to fly into
where we flew into. It was my call, and I
was still mad at myself, and I even wrote down
in my journal when I was thankful for something regarding
that that still mad at myself. I put an asterisk.
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But after I wrote it all out and I really
thought about it, I was like, that was the right call,
Like it was the right thing to do. And I'm
thankful to have a father in law that drove to
pick us up and a husband that drove another hour
to get a rental car because it saved us so
much money on airline tickets. And I was just thankful
for the people in my life that made that flying
in there possible. But I mean, I was rumpy about it,
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but then it made me stop being grumpy about it.
But then I even revisited it. When I was on
the phone with Mary. She asked me about it because
she saw that I posted on my gratitude journal. She's like,
what was that whole ben? How to drive somewhere for
a rental car, and I was like, ah, I can't
believe I did that, but it's still at the time,
I needed to write that down and it did help
me and it does make you realize it. So and
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when I don't do it, because there are some days
I just don't I have an earlier day, I don't
get up early enough to do it, and I will
maybe do a couple of days without it, my mood changes,
Like it makes such a difference to write down gratitude
every single day and every day. So that's what Mary
and I always found gratitude or journaling to be intimidating.
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So we thought, well, with our four Things brand, what
if we made it way to journal that we would
actually use. That's not scary, that's simple. That's like literally,
you can jot down four things. It can be a
paragraph for each thing, or it can be one word,
or it can be a sticker. We put stickers so
it could be so that to us was and we
put a bunch of prompts in the back that ask
you you can read through and skim and guide you
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through it. Yeah, because sometimes you're like, I don't even
know where to start my brain is harsh. I'm tired.
I don't even know. But when you read through some
of the questions and the prompts, you'll start to see, Oh, yeah,
you know, I did have a friend that I got
to hang out. You know, I did, um, you know,
get to I did drink clean water today. Sometimes we
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take that for granted, and it seems silly to write
that down, But no, when you write it down and
you focus on it and you're intentional about it, you
really that's like, that's something that so many of us
take for granted. Um. So yeah, Mary and I are
going to do We're gonna do a challenge. But people
can um you know, radio amy dot com to get
links to anything a squaw. But you don't even have
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to have a four Things Gratitude journal to participate. I
want to be clear on that because I get not
everybody can go buy a journal if you can feel
good about it because it goes to help education. And
Haiti and Mary and I worked out on it's super
cute and we love it. But if you can't get
any old book, it doesn't matter. Any journal and just
you know, jot down four things and participate and just
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use the hashtag four things gratitude and um, you know,
we'll see if we can start to make I think
you're going to make a start home, make a chain
of positivity. I think it will. I really really do.
So we'll see. And we're Mary and are doing it
for us to do it, and I'm gonna do it
with you. And the journal is first of all, if
you just look at that journal, you're in a good mood.
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It's beautiful. Yeah, thank you. That means a lot. It's
really cute. The Macha recipe, oh yeah, we threw in
a recipe in the back, um which we're going to
go over some recipes with Andrew here, but not not
for consumption, but for like your face and a bathtub.
And you know Andrea, I mentioned that she has come
on before, but she I met Andrea because she does
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spray Tands organic spray Tands in Nashville Laura Lee, which
she posted about you on Instagram, so I she tagged
you and I clicked on it, which her instagram is
Naturally True Beauty. And her name is Andrea Turner. And
you know you came over and I and was like, okay,
I just love everything about her so sweet and kind
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and as I followed you on Instagram, I learned more
about you and um, I think since it's we mentioned
a second ago about me time, we're gonna go over
a couple of different things. I'll give you all a
little heads up. We're gonna talk like hot baths. We're
gonna talk spray tans organic, what the d h A is,
why it's bad for you and your lungs, and how
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your stuff has walnuts in it to make the color
and not red dye because you might be getting spray
tans somewhere that's using some of this stuff that's not
great for you, and so Andrea can fill us in
on that. And we're going to talk about uh like
a let's see like some detox ta s uh like
your go to for skincare because you do facials, and
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uh like at home stuff people can do like little
recipes and you know where people should invest their money
when it comes to that. And then we'll recap with
some ice rolling, since you're the person that also introduced
me to ice rolling, so I've we've talked about baths
on the podcast before, like the four things like I
love a good hot bath. I awesome. I'm a big
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fan of freezing cold showers, so in the morning, I'll
do a freezing cold shower. But I since my kids
moved in and they took over my bathtub well, because
the only bathtub we have in our house is upstairs
in between their rooms, and it's just I don't go
up there anymore because it's not as relaxing because it's
just their space. But I need to start doing that. So, um,
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I know you mentioned that you put powdered goats milk
in your bath and I need to know why. So
I just noticed that so many like if you go
to like a craft fair any kind of like market
like that, they have all this goat's milk, you know,
soap and lotions, and it's so soothing and calming and
healing for the skin with like soriass eggema and stuff
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like that, and I just never understood why they never
put it in like skincare or you know. It was
kind of realizing, like, why is this ingredient in so
much stuff? So of course I did the research, found
the healing aspects of it, and um, just how soothing
it was naturally, and so I just started, like I thought,
why not just throw it in some EPs some salt too,
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because that can kind of be drying in a way.
Um it is very healing and therapeutic and helps with inflammation.
But I like to like Yin and yang. That's how
I am with all skincare. Well. I love that too.
Because you also put coconut oil in your bath, which
I have never done. That's why I wanted you to
share your little recipe with everyone, because um I did not.
I've shared my hot bath recipe before and it's basically
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just epps and salt, some lavender and baking soda, which
is great. I kind of go like on the fancy
route of like dried flowers, So I have tons of roses.
I love eucalyptus like stuff like that, Like just fresh flowers.
I will just dehydrate them. I have a dehydrator at home.
You could truly just dry them, like hang them upside down,
let them just dry naturally. So I tend to do
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a lot of roses just because they smell good, they're pretty,
and they kind of turn your bath like this pretty
pink color. Okay, but that's like next level, actually next
I know, I know I'm a little extra, but so
you can do dehydrated flowers if you want, you could do.
Um a scoop of coconut oil. That's a big thing
to me. I always add like just a big spoonful
right in the tub. Um. I do at least like
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a table spoon of the goat's milk powder because that
we get that grocery store. Honestly, Um, it should be
in because I remember having to like find this thing,
so I think it's in like the dried milk sections,
so like we're like the carnation instant breakfast. The powder,
I feel like I've seen it and it's like this
you showy purple tin and it has a goat on it.
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You'll know it. When I found it, I was like, oh,
I've seen this thing a million times, and you get
a big old tub of it, it will last you
so long and it just melts really nicely in the tub.
So powdered goat's milk, coconut oil, EPs some salt, which
I do like two cups, but really you can just
look on the back of the bag and it'll tell you.
But that's typically what I use. And then sometimes I
do like lavender lavender essential oils g eight um and
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then if you really wanted to treat yourself some roses,
if you really want to go over the top, you
can throw in some dehydrated flat about if we want
to make it more of a detox bath. Detox bath
you could do Okay. I know everybody's probably seen the
Aztec Indian clay. It's a big jar of dry powder.
Some people use it for their face. You can totally
do that, but you can do a scoop of that
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in your tub. And I would definitely add a scoop
of coconut oil sorry into it to add that extra hydration.
So if you do the az Tech, yeah, you better
do the coconut I would suggest it. It's just a
little drying, which I have never obviously, I know that
all that stuff is drying, but I never thought about
how I need to rehydrate. Yeah, oh yeah, Like I'm
big on Like I said again, Yin Yang, if we're
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going to do like a facial peel, we gotta put
like a nice hydrating mask on afterwards, so that as
Tech clay is amazing for detox. You can do it
under your arms for like an under armed detox if
you've been using regular denodorant whole other thing, but like
throw that on. You can do that. But I do
love the tub aspect. It kind of just detoxes if
you've you know, if you need, if you've had a
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holiday and had too much to eat and drink. It's
just a great detox. But just throw that scoop of
I have a whole jar of coconut oil in your
bad bathrooms, just a regular spoon that I just we
all have that one random spoon that doesn't you know,
fit in our utensils. It's like, where did it come from?
That's in my bathroom, and that's what I scoot my
coconut oil with perfect. Okay, So I want to ask
you about spray tansy. So obviously I've been loreally posted
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about you. I saw like, oh wow, she doesn't organic
spray tan, which I don't know that. I've always been
receiving organic um. And then I've always kind of thought
to I'll do self application at home too, like if
I use santrope or whatever, and that's not you know, honestly,
santrope is my favorite. If you're going to use more
of a cleaner one, it's not straight up organic, but
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they do use a cleaner organic d h A, which
I am happy with. So oh that is not bad
when you're at home. Um, there's no Yeah, there's a
couple of whole foods that I've seen I've not tried yet, Um,
that are supposed to be like self tanners. I'd still
stick to my Santro pay to be honest. And then
I've seen other other ones I've not tried yet that
are cleaner. Well okay, And obviously if you're in Nashville,
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then you're in luck because Andrew is here and you
can just go to Naturally True Beauty and Booker she
comes to your house. It's amazing. But you know, if
people are interviewing potential new or calling around and they
need a spray tan, what are What's something they need
to look out for? So I know there's lots of
concerns with like d h A. I would say definitely
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get an organic one because that's just going to be
the safest option. But and that's what we don't want
to breathe in. It's not so much that it's going
through skins. That that's why when you do around my face,
you're like hold your breath, hold your breath, and like
I do have little nose plugs that people can, you know,
stick up their nose if they want to. Um, which
you need to be wearing. My husband has so he
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told me, he was like, you've got he bought me
a mask. I have one now. I officially have a
mask because I did, like I mean, if it's like
c m A Awards, I did like fourteen in a day,
So I learned masks. I have a mask now. Um,
but it's just more so organic DHA is important, but
I think that there are brands that have organic d
h A, but they also have red dyes in them,
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and I think that's a big issue. Is more of
like the coloring agent because that's what's gonna, you know,
kind of get on the skin and the red dye.
It's so we use walnuts and we have caramel, so
that is so I do eliminate a loss. Yes, yes,
I do eliminate a huge a lot of huge. But
I do have to turn away people that have a
nut allergy because I'm just I just don't want to
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risk it. But um, I would rather use that and
have a really good clean ingredient list. Um. It's all
sourced from California. They work with local farmers in California.
It's really cool. They really support that small business and
so it's California based and it's just a really clean thing.
You can read the ingredients and you feel really good
about what's in them, and they're very minimal, where some
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have an organic d h A and I mean you
can't even you know, read them. The word is not
even something you can pronounce. So what are people supposed
to ask? Like if they're say, I have someone in
you know, Arizona list now and they're like, I don't know, Yeah,
I would just ask, you know, you could ask brands,
you could ask if there is I would really ask,
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what is your coloring like agent to it? Minus the
d h A. I would make sure it's organic and
I would just see if there are coloring agents to it.
That would be my main thing. Okay, that's that's really
my main concern, just like red dice stuff like that. Okay,
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I should have asked this when we were talking about
detox slats, because I think like at night it's good
to have like a detox bath, and I know you
and I have talked about like having a hot cup
of tea at night kind of love it wind down
a little bit, um. And then we started to also
talking about hot lemon water because I am a big
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fan of half a lemon in water every morning, um
like eight ounces of warm water and I kind of
squeeze the lemon and I'll pour a little cold water
on top, and then I'll hit it with the warm
water after that's that way. The hot water I don't know.
I read somewhere and now I can't even aware, and
who knows if it's even true, But if the hot
water hit the lemon straight on, it would kill some
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of those I mean, that makes sense though some of
whatever is happening in there, so I don't know makes sense.
That's my kind of routine. But you were talking about
how you have sensitive teeth, so you don't use the
half a limon. You use hot water with one drop
of a lemon essential. Yeah, So I was going to
ask you about that because I have no idea if
that you still find that to be as effective? Do
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I do? Um? You know? And I follow a bunch
of like health people that I love, and they swear
that it does not affect their teeth when they use
fresh lemon. It as for me, I don't know, just
I guess I'm really sensitive. But um so I really
stopped because I would find just my teeth would be
so sensitive, and I'm like, well, I gotta figure out something.
So I just did a drop of lemon oil in it,
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and I do find that it is still that like
detox and it is, you know, an extract from the lemon,
So I feel like it should still do the trick. Yeah,
I know of other people and I do like great
fruit oil too, because that's a great like detox kind
of helps with them metabolism too. Really, oh I had
that's what I heard. Yeah, okay, so that's something you
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can drink either in the morning or at night if
you wanted to. Or Yogi is another brand of tea
that makes like a good detox te um. I used
to drink Dandelion Route yea two detox and it's kind
of gross, it is. Yeah, I you know, I bought
a box of that a while ago because I heard
about it and it's had a hard time. I did
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have a hard time. I would have to doctor it.
I would put in maybe half a lemon and then
I would put in like a drop of liquid stevia,
but still I'm passing something they don't like. It was
just not fun. I was just an unhealthy place where
I was like I don't think I was, which I'm
gonna Lisa from at the Well Necessities. I met her
on Instagram. We've never met in person, but we're going
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to and we're kind of coming up with the a
series that we're gonna do on the Four Things podcast
where um, it's all about like how we got disordered
eating at times where you get fixated. What tattoo? What
is that? The National Eating Disorder Association tattoo? So that's
like my leg when I meditate. I look at it
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every day to remind myself gratitude. I didn't know you
had an eating I was like, I was in ballet
and you have and you have a tattoo. I didn't
know there was a national eating simple why and one
of my best friends got this years ago. Um, both
struggled with it at the same time and didn't know what.
We were comparing each other, like comparing ourselves to each
other and we're like in this horrible headspace. But yeah,
I took ballet, I was in beauty pageants. I had
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like the worst way to grow up and like in
vision that was so pretty. You know, I look back
into Mike Andrea get it together, but I just beat
myself up, I mean control of my life. So that
was like big for me. Do you mind talking about it?
I know this wasn't even know. I literally had no
idea you had that huge. Maybe make it. You know,
we're going to have different guests on and I you
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know what I want because I want to make sure
we cover what we're spect today and then we'll get
back on it. But especially as we start the new year,
and so many people are like, it's a new year
if you have any kind of at least from my
experience with me, and this is stuff I've learned really
in the last eight months or so, is when you
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have any kind of eating disorder or disordered eating past,
any like triggers can be a new new time of
year where you may start a new way of eating
or a new like Okay, I'm not going to have
this or I'm gonna diet, Like diet just isn't even
in my vocabulary more because it's a trigger. So I
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can't do that. And so it's appropriate that Lisa and
I are going to start working on it in the
new year. I don't know when it will release, but
she is so wise and like she has a program
called fork the Noise, where a lot of it is
just in our brain. You have to shut it down,
Like you said, we're like, what was wrong with me?
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I was beautiful? And where did this start? And a
lot of us spend time in therapy and trying to
figure out, Oh, well, is because my dad left? I mean,
and maybe some of that played a role, but a
lot of it just was because I started dieting at
a young age. Oh my gosh, I mean it, and
it was it caused my brain to like it really
caused an unhealthy relationship with food where I my body
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would think I was starving, so we would want to eat, eat, eat, eat,
and then I would think, oh my god, I ate
way too much, so I'm going to throw up, Like
it was a vicious cycle, when really, yeah, maybe my
dad leaving made a role in some of my mo
sational stability and my dependence on comfort and food and whatnot.
But how far I let it go was it just
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was like I needed to, like Lisa says, fork the Noise,
but I had nobody had given me those tools, and
I think what people say things like when I was
a kid, so my mom cleans houses for a living,
I've got She's like, I'm with her all the time.
She's a tiny little thing. She's like five two and
maybe pounds to this day, she's just tiny. I'm not
I'm five nine. I'm tall. I'm broad shouldered, like I'm
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just a taller person. So from like eight years old,
I'm like at these houses my mom she's cleaning them,
and it's like these like a little like old ladies
that she's cleaning for. And they're like, you must be
shaped like your dad, And I'm like, my dad looks
like magnum p I. He's like has a mustache and
he's like as an eight year old girl, I see
him as a massive man, and I'm like, that's what
I look like, you know what I mean. Like it
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like nessed me up from that age, rom like can't
you just be like a taller eight year old? You
know what I mean? Like why am I getting compared
to like obviously my mom, who I'm not shaped like
at all. So it was always like a comparison to
like my little mom. And I'm like, yeah, well I
don't know. I don't know what to tell you. And
so what age did you with that with your tattoo
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when you got them? Was that at a recovery point?
That was a recovery point. But still like it's like
it's all the time, you know, I'm always thinking of,
you know, trying to get out of my head, of
beating myself up. So that's why it's on my leg
when I meditate with gratitude. Once again, it's like I
have legs that can move, I can work at like
I can do all these things. It's not punishment, it's
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thanking your body for actually working and functioning. And that's
why I do this stuff and I try to stay mindful.
But it was like, gosh, I mean from seven eight
I remember that, Like, I mean, I'm pretty sure, like
my friend's dad called me and her like the three Husketeers,
Oh my god, like okay, So you know, it's just
like growing up in that time you said that, it
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was like people didn't think about it. Probably still say
things without really thinking how it can really Yeah, my
custory of your ye, my cousins are and seventeen. Um
I said eighteen. A couple of weeks ago when I
was corrected quickly she has seventeen um. So they I
just I can see it, and I would never want
that to happen them. Like I see their youth, and
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I would just be so upset if somebody took that
away from them, and like it's just I mean, even
things that they've said, like with sporting and coaches that
have said stuff to them, I'm like, you don't realize,
like that one thing could just snap and ruin their youth.
And I just I think people aren't aware of like
what can affect girls, and we're just like put up
at this really high um level of what we should
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look like all the time and what we see all
the time. And so I think it's good just to
kind of realize, like not everybody's super like tiny and
little and petite, Like just because you're tall doesn't mean
that you're big, you know, or whatever. It's like we
all have different body shapes, and as long as we're
taking care of ourselves in a healthy way, there's nothing
more you can do. I'm still adjusting to the fact
(26:59):
that like I tried eat as best I can, try
to work out as much as I can, and like
this is the body I have, you know what I mean,
Like for the longest time, it was like starving it
and I was somewhat skinny, but like I don't know
what my body should really when did you and your
friend find out about your were? Like nineteen twenty is
(27:20):
Um it was really bad, like my junior senior year
of high school. Um, And like I said, I did ballet,
I bought a really expensive prom dress and my mom
put me in a beauty pageant so I could rewear it.
That was probably not the best for like a young
girl that was really critical of herself. So that was
a rough time too. I mean you're literally comparing yourself
to everybody else. Um. And then college happened and it
(27:42):
was like it probably wasn't it like the best relationship either,
so not good. Probably my freshman year of college. And
then I think we all kind of like had this
realization of how unhealthy we each were. And you know,
I had a good cry and a good revelation about it.
And you know, it's still a struggle. I think we
all had to find different um solutions. You know, Like
(28:03):
she really dove into like cross fit and working out,
and like I'm going to find health and like go
all in and I like went off the deep end
and was like live life and I ate a ton
of it. So it was like I was having to
recover from like not having boundaries anymore and like having
to get back to eating healthy and then you found
your new normal. Yes, I found my new normal, but
(28:24):
it is it's I mean, they're not kidding, like I
think I've researched it's like seven year recovery. I don't
think it ever. I think there's constant relapse, you know,
and well, and I have not been super vocal about mine.
Some of it is just finding the being comfortable and
brave and it's enough to talk about to talk about
(28:46):
it too much, so like some people, I'm just like
they wouldn't get it yet some learning or the more
I look into it is so many people are suffering
and there they feel like they're alone or that people
might judge them, you know, because it's not awesome, Like
no one's like like I love that I have an
(29:08):
issue with food. Um, so like there's nothing if someone
has an issue. This is gonna sound weird, but I
mean I'm just gonna say it because I truly feel
this way. Like if someone's got other addicted to drugs
or alcohol, it's kind of like, oh, wow, okay, yeah,
that's yeah, but it's like, oh to me, I feel
like if they were to hear she's got an issue
with food, that people would be like, oh, why can't
(29:30):
she get it together? People's problem what happens and the
way you see things, like in the way you see yourself.
Not that being addicted to alcohol or drugs is like
glamorous by any means, but something about having an issue
with food and versus those seems different to me. And
I'm not I'm not saying that that's right, but it doesn't,
like I feel like to me, some people may struggle
(29:52):
with talking about any addiction that I had, but for me,
I'm just like, like, knowing that I ate or would
make myself throw up like just does not sound it's gross.
It is. And that's not like a nut saying it disgross.
I'm saying like it is something that you feel uncomfortable,
like mentioning, Like I want people to love their bodies
and I don't want anybody to waste a free moment
(30:14):
like I wasted so much of my time. But it
is something that once I kind of start talking about it.
I'm like, gosh, it should I say, like do people
do they care? Do they get it? But I think
that they do. Think that That's what Lisy and Lisa
and I were talking about. I literally called her I
was leaving my dad had to go to the hospital.
I he was like, not good, Like I had so
many flashbacks of when my mom died, and just to
(30:36):
quickly give and then we'll have to get into the
rest of like why um the little questions I wanted
to ask you, but you know I did. I have
probably I don't even know twenty my early twenties, put
it away, done with it, and I was on my
road to healing whatever. And then at thirty three my
(30:57):
mom died. Was my thirty three whatever you're was uh?
In two thousand fourteen, and literally the day after she died,
I couldn't. I do not know what happened, but it
all returned and it had been years, like over ten
twelve years. Maybe I couldn't explain it. A therapist tried
(31:18):
to tell me that like a time capsule in the
back of my head opened up and like trauma, which
it had to be. It had to be that I
was hit so traumatically and it was my I literally
didn't know what to do, so I went back to
trying to control something. And but I still think maybe
I wasn't. But here's the thing, and I want to
(31:38):
talk through it with Lisa and stuff we're gonna unpack
when we do this little series. I think I had
stopped throwing up, but I had not figured out my
issue with food. So the throwing up something that came
with the trigger of my mom dying. But in those
ten years, even though I wasn't throwing up, I didn't
have a healthy relationship with food. I was, which this
(31:59):
not my brain. I I always find my way back
always this Originally, why I even ever brought this up
was why I was freaking drinking dandelions. I had. Uh.
I don't know that I had this, but I see
people post about all the time that they might have, Um,
what is it called orthorexia or something you're you're it's
(32:23):
a disordered eating where you're trying to eat healthy all
the time, like which doesn't make sense, like when you're
so hyper focused. Me, there's what you're putting in your body.
You can go one into the other, and so I
mean I had read somewhere that you're drink danil and
tea and I was like, well, well I'm gonna do it.
I'm gonna so. I mean, my whole regimen was very
(32:50):
and it was so rigid and like I probably has
no fun to be around. And before any event, I
was juicing and d talk because like, I feel like
I was a constantly d talxing. But it's amazing about
our bodies as they detox. I think it's important to
help it along and there's no harm in like a
hot bath or some dandelion tea if you want it.
(33:11):
I was making myself drink it every day and it
was disgusting. So now to buy it now, I'm like,
I'm such a rebel now where I'm like, I don't
even want to tell you all about dan delion tea,
but what if you like it exactly? So I want
to tell you that it's a good detox tea, but
just know that. I feel like now I want to
say here on this podcast too, I have a lot
(33:31):
of different people come on, we talk about a lot
of different things. I feel like I'm not an expert
in any of it. I do not claim to be
um I don't want anybody to ever listen to this
and walk away and think, oh, I'm supposed to do
this now, x Y and Z. I've even had people
email me like I can't listen anymore because I get
conflicting information and they're not in a healthy enough place
to where they can separate. Okay, this is for me,
(33:53):
and this is not for me, and I've been there
and that's okay, and I have to let that listener
go and be like, you know what, I'm sorry, but
I can't. I also can't a four things podcast that's
gonna be very diverse. I cannot cater to everybody, and
you know it. So I've just That's also another disclaimer
of anything you hear Andrew and I talked about doesn't
mean that you need to you know, run and put aztec,
(34:15):
you know, play in your bath so you can detox.
It's really just maybe one night this type of concoction
is for you, and it'll be really nice and soothing
and feel good and uh, you know, maybe it's not
for you. But what what Lisa and I want to
do eventually once we record it is, oh, I know
where I was. My dad was in the hospital and
(34:38):
I was. It was just I had all this flashbacks
of my mom when she was near end of life,
when things just really started going downhill, and my dad
was just it was just like not good. And I
was like, what is happening? And you know, I just
had flashbacks and it's very They're very vivid, and it
feels very real, and I get and then I'm like,
(34:59):
oh my gosh, but I do feel like in the
last eight months, I am in a better place and
I am trying to figure this whole what the heck
is this fork the noise thing? And um my, how
much my brain plays into the eating and how you
literally can like tell yourself, okay, like are you really
(35:19):
what is happening right now? Shut it down? Shut it down.
And that can be not even just food, but negative
self talk, self talk that's like not positive, and you
just have to shut it down. And the more you
shut it down, the less it will show up. And
you know, I called Lisa from the parking garage because
I just thought, oh my gosh, normally, maybe with a
(35:43):
trigger like that, who knows, I maybe would want to
just like go eat or not eat, or and not
eat for a day or eat and then throw up
or whatever the case. But I felt so at peace
with it, even though I was concerned for my dad
and I was stressed, I didn't have any of that.
And I was like, oh my gosh, I want everyone
(36:06):
to feel this way. I want women or men. Yeah,
but I but I guess just I'll be honest, I
was thinking women, I want other women to feel this freedom. Yes,
it's true. It's huge, and I think it is a
matter of like you're saying, it's not it's not about
I gotta lose weight. I'm taking a detox. I do
it when I'm like, I feel bloated. I can feel
(36:29):
that my digestive system needs a break. That's when I
and that's it's not about me losing weight. It's about
listening to my body. But that's being in a healthy place.
For so long, I was in a not healthy place
where it was like, I mean, my body was probably like, okay,
can we can we lay low on the detoxic for
a minute because you're like doing all kinds of things
(36:50):
all the time. And yeah, it's just a nice balance,
but it is. It's something big when you can reach
and it's hard. It's hard, like getting like you getting
past the noise in your head and enjoying life, Like
my day would be ruined if I ate something bad,
and I'm like, this is just silk. Yeah, this is
just life is so precious. I am so thankful for
(37:12):
so many things. And I do believe like gratitude and
writing that down really puts things in perspective where you're like,
where did you find out about the National Eating Disorder whatever?
Actually from my friend, SO was like I have tattoos already,
and she was like I want to get one. I
want to be reminded of it every day, so hers
is more on her risk when she does her makeup.
And I was thinking, like I love this, Like I
(37:34):
had this. I really didn't even tell my family, like
they just thought it was probably very skinny. I don't
talk about it really with them. It's still very taboo.
And I think that's why we feel uncomfortable talking about
it because some people just it's not a huge thing
that we talked about when I was younger or whatever.
But um, yeah, she showed me it and I was like,
that is amazing. I follow them. Do they do walks?
(37:55):
They do like Awareness Week. It's it's really cool. So
it's nice to see that there is a huge munity
that's no idea you have to fall. I think it's
just need a UM like an E D A and
so UM. Yeah. I just think that it's really cool
to bring awareness to UM what a lot of people
are probably going through and they have no idea that
(38:15):
has talked about it a little bit. So I reached
out to her and then now I know you. So
when Lisa and I do record it, I want to
get a bunch of normal girls. UM. I don't know
if we can find a guy, a guy I'm sure,
just to share a little bit about their story. I
don't We're going to meet. I have to go to
New York in a couple of weeks for work, and
(38:36):
I'm going to meet with her. We're going to try
to lay it all out. UM. So I guess I
probably shouldn't even talk about what it's going to look
like because I don't even know yet, but I do know.
That's part of my vision is having experts but also
just normal everyday people that have found their way to
the other side UM and just sharing so that for
one people don't feel alone. That's one of my main
(39:00):
goals of this podcast in general is all the different
things is for people to know they're not alone. And
then secondly that there is freedom, yes and um and
that if you are if food or disordered, eating or
eating disorders is something that you struggle with. UM. So okay,
(39:21):
I'm excited. I think I know we've got to just
quickly get through. UM. Let's see, let's talk about your
like your go to I know that you're big on
like cleansing, like you know, where what should people do
every day? And you know you're like cleans, tone, treat, moisturize, protect,
(39:41):
that's like once a week a mask, once a week
a mask. And if you're gonna do a mask, I
say an enzyme peel. That's like my that's my opinion. Okay,
so what so I love um, I love a beauty
Counters charcoal mask, love it. And I love drunk elephant
baby facial. So those in I don't Beauty Counter would
actually be great if you're a little bit more oily
(40:03):
congested by all means to do that once a week.
You can use that as a spot treatment too. I
love that mask, love it. The drunk elephant is going
to be more so that charcoal mask is more detoxifying
um poor clarifying. The drunk elephant is going to be
more of that like chemical exfoliation that I was telling
you about, like with the fruit enzyme, so you could
do that once a week. I think Beauty Counter has
(40:25):
a um like an overnight peel, like you put it on,
said the microphone. You put it on, and that's supposed
to be really good. And my favorite, my shell fruit
Fiesta peel. It's like a four to five minute mask.
Like we all have four to five minutes, we might
not all have twenty. So you put it on, it tingles,
it burns, you wash it off. What is You're good
to go. It's called fruit Fiesta peel and it's a
(40:48):
mix of fruit enzymes that eaty waite dead skin cells.
It's going to brighten and it gets those cells to
turn over with that tingling um. So I do that
once a week and I swear by it, okay, and
like back to the whole cleansed tongue and treat so
like cleansing, you're just like whatever face washing for you,
as long as you don't feel super tight, you know,
and dry afterwards, go with whatever cleanser works for you
(41:10):
and then you do have like this isn't I'm not
having Andrean to talk about specific like brands or anything.
We're just kind of talking about what we like. But
even you have a d I y toner. I do
have a y tone. So what's that? It is water
and whit Chasel apple cider vinegar. Make sure you get
like the good brand with like the mother in it,
like a really yeah high quality um, yes, yeah, I
(41:31):
love that one apple cider vinegar, witch Chasel. I do
know alcohol in the witchaesel solif um water and then
like a lavender essential oil. You could do a great
I don't know that I could put that on my face.
I know, like and so you could do that in
there just for the smell. Other than that, it's really
I don't lavender oil in my face. I know. Well
that's with the water and all that. So it is
(41:52):
just but it really is more for smell because like
my husband likes tell me, I smell like a salad
dressing because of the apple cider vinegar. It go away.
The smell does go away. So it makes a big
jar and you can keep it in your fridge to
keep it nice and cool, or you can just put
it wherever I keep it fridge. And Andrew has this
recipe on our highlights page on our Instagram, which is
naturally true beauty um and so cleans or whatever you
(42:15):
can whatever toner or you can make your own. Like
treat would be like a spot treat, like I have
a treat is going to be serum. So that is
going to be like treatment as in, let's like really
get into what your main issue is. Is that hyper pigmentation,
is it clarifying breakouts and clogged pores? Is it finelines
(42:36):
and wrinkles, and so the treatment is going to be
your serum, So pick whatever sarum you need to kind
of focus on that issue. And that's the one that
I would spend the money on. I mean, but how
do people how would you recommend people find out which
one they need? Um, you can always be a me
and I'm happy to help people over Instagram. I love
to help. But um, you know, you can always look
(42:56):
at your favorite brands online and they usually have like
sections you'll see brightening, anti aging, breakouts. You know, like
you can kind of go from there. They help you, yes,
and they'll break them down. And then moisturizer obviously that
can be personal preference. But just make sure that you're
moisturizing because it's super important and daytime, make sure you're
protecting and then you know, yeah like a mask once
(43:18):
a week. Uh So then you know where should people
where should people invest their money? Because even um, the
Nashville beauty girl Carrie, she comes on, she is my
estetiction pretty much. I mean I don't I don't know.
She's like a nurse practitioner, so I don't know that
what I'm getting from her. Like if I feel like
(43:40):
maybe more so, I would call you my astetition, like
if I came for you for like a facial and extraction,
Like she doesn't really extract per se, but she'll do
like if I get a like the medical like botox,
that's different absolutely, so that's separate, very skilled in the medical.
She used to be like a nurse and to thank you,
(44:01):
you don't want me doing any sort of medical treatments?
Yeah no, no, no, right so but she even has
said to like, yeah, you just gotta find a cleanser
that's like good for you, like servate like over the
counter or anything that. She's also a big fan of
hy yah. Uh well, just thousand times. It's weight in moisture,
very hydrading. So yes, so speaking of hydration, that is good.
(44:21):
So but where should we where should we invest our
money invest I always put money into serum's because they
are going to be pricier. Well some aren't, but I
would say spend the money on the serums that's going
to be your active that's going to be a smaller
molecular structure, so it's going to go deeper into that
dermal level and just be more effective. So that's where
I spend my money. Um, so you could do like
(44:43):
vitamin C serum or an antioxidant seram in the morning
and then at night, do you know, like an anti
wrinkle salam, a peptide serum something like that. That's where
I would spend my money. And then I cream. I
creams huge, and yeah, I just I mean it's big.
I wasn't using I cream like all until the last
few weeks because I got it as a free sample.
(45:03):
I had to buy more face wash and something else.
And if you spend a certain amount, you got a
gift bag. And I opened it up and it was
this I cream and I love it and I do
see the difference, and it's only been a few weeks
and it's just softer, unbelievable. But I put those eye
patches on also everyone, So I'm sort of kind of
(45:23):
overkill probably on the eye area. You can you can
never do too much in the eye area, I would say,
But like I do feel like a lot of people
will put their moisturizer where their eye cream should be,
and then people get those little melia's, those little white spots.
Oh I don't get white spots, but certain eye products
give me a little red dots under my eye. Interesting
so that I'm gonna show like too active or maybe
(45:45):
it's just I think it's a larger like molecular structure.
It's just clogging the pork. I think it's too Maybe
you're right, it's too active. One next time I get it, Yeah,
I'm gonna take a picture and I'm gonna send it
to you and Carrie to and I'm gonna have y'all
analyze it, because I there is an I cream I
got a couple of months ago that and it was
expensive because well, that's where I should invest my money.
(46:05):
And it gave me red dots on her eyes, and
I was like, well, I can't use this, so I
gave it to Mary Um and I don't I think
she uses the same kind anyway, and She's like, no,
it doesn't bother me. It looks looks so weird. Some
of them have retinals in them, and like, if you
use that a few days in a row, you're gonna
get red and so like it's like a little red stars.
Oh and if I get my makeup done, and depending
(46:27):
on what she uses, and I use the same Um
girl all the time, Mars Mars Collins. She's amazing and
she sometimes she uses different products on me though, and
sometimes I'll wash my face after if she does my makeup,
I have it on for hours because it's for an
event or a photo shoot or something, and it'll be
(46:48):
on for hours and then I'll wash my face and
I'll have little red dots under my eyes. Interesting, Yeah,
I wonder, Yeah, I don't know. We can talk about that.
That's a pictures. We'll discuss that. So before we wrap,
we'll just quickly go over ice rolling one more time
in case people missed you, because that's why I had
you on the podcast the first time. And you know
(47:09):
I've got an ice roller up it's all my Amazon
that's the one I ordered that Andrew told me to
get radio me dot com for all my Amazon stuff.
But it is, it's so great, it's amazing. And I
would say sometimes I don't even roll. I just put
it under. I just get it out of the freezer
because that's where I store it, and I wash it
(47:32):
after I use it. I wash it, try it. Then
I put it in a zip block bag and stick
it in the freezer. So that's how I keep it clean.
And then I put it. I just press it under
my eyes and it feels so good. But just recap.
If people are to order one, what are they supposed
to do? So always roll upward and outward, That's what
(47:52):
I say. Um, and just you know, you don't have
to do like a lot of pressure, just lightly just
roll it upward and outward and about for how long?
Because even I have forgot gosh. I mean, you could
go as long as you want to, really if you
if you want to, but I would just say, like
a couple of minutes a day, and you know, just
like hit the forehead. You could go side to side
on the forehead if you want to, or just roll
up it doesn't matter on the forehead, but under the
eyes kind of pressed right around the eyes and go
(48:13):
like inward out on the cheeks. Just roll like up
and out. That's the main thing. And um, I do
it daily if I can. I mean, you could do
it as much as you wanted to. That one is
going to help with inflammation. It's gonna help with breakouts.
It's gonnap with puffiness. Um it just kind of gets
that cell turnovergoing because it wakens that skin up. So
(48:34):
I love the ice roller and I love seeing people roll.
And I'm yes, it's so cheap, um Like, I'm sure
they make more expensive ones, but I think the one
I have up is that's maybe it's like fourteen dollars
before amazing. And if people do have like procedures, if
they get laser treatments, botox, if they get chemical peels, amazing,
just to like soothe and calm uh, irritation, redness, whatever,
(48:58):
you could just put that. Like, there's no skin eye
type that I think I would suggest like to steer
clear of it because it's just so calming and soothing.
It's just such a good roller treatment. Awesome, good, Okay, well,
thank you, thank you, andrewa for coming and just this
was like a special Q and a uh, and we're
just kind of asked Andreas some questions. Occasionally we'll do that,
(49:19):
but we're still taking your questions if you want to
send them in. It's just four Things with Amy Brown
at gmail dot com and then the subject line put
fifth thing question like all caps or something like that. Okay, uh,
and we'll see you on Thursday with a brand new
Four Things podcast episode. The best stubs are over, we're back.
(49:40):
It's new year. We'll have new things to talk about
and lots of really cool interviews coming up this year.
And yeah, I'm just excited to be back. So see
you all then. Bye,
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