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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Okay, little food for you. So life. Oh it's pretty bay,
it's pretty beautiful thing. Laugh a little mouth. You're kicking
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with four Okay, Happy Thursday everybody or whatever day you're
listening to this. But the Four Things episode drops every Thursday.
And full disclosure, I have recorded this intro five times.
I don't know what's going on with me today. I
can't talk. I think my brain might be fried. IM
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not sure. But it is Wednesday night at eight pm
as I'm recording this, and I need to send this
file over to Mike D so that he can get
it uploaded with the Four Things that I recorded earlier
today and then yeah, put it on the outro, which
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is the email shout out I do at the end
of every episode and put the theme music to everything.
And that's what Mike D does. He's super awesome and
puts it all together. But yeah, I gotta get this
to him because I'm sure he's like clock sticken eighty.
It's it's almost Thursday. Let's put this up. So on
today's episode, my husband is on for the first Thing,
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which he hasn't been on the podcast in a while,
but he does the first thing with me and we
talked about how we're getting through this whole thing, coronavirus,
being quarantined in the house and life with kids. But
even if you're you've got a roommate, maybe you don't
have a spouse or a significant other or gosh, you know,
if you're going through this alone, like I think of
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those of you that you there are really going to
enjoy the alone time. But I hope you're being intentional
about seeing people in some way, shape or form, or
it's really really hard for you because you what if
you're a seven on the angiogram and you're all about
doing things all the time and having fun and being
with people and you're super extroverted. I I feel for you.
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This has got to got to be hard. But my
husband had a nice He challenged me on how I've
been approaching it, and I keep saying surviving this whole thing,
and he said, hey, I think we need to talk
about this in a different way, in a more positive way.
So I I liked his input, So I hope we
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all enjoy that as well. In case you're using the
word surviving as well, and he has a different perspective
for us. Oh, before I get into the next things.
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to get a healthcare hero item. Now on to the
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rest of today's episode. I for the second thing, I
have a really uh I don't know if it's called
it a quote, but something this woman wrote and I
found it online and I thought it has to do
with what we're going through right now, and I thought
it was a great way to look at it. And
maybe you just need to keep this little short story
in your back pocket or maybe you want to print
it out, but it'll help you have perspective and then
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also have direct in on where we want to go
when we come out on the other side of this.
How do we want to be do do we want
to be stronger from it? Do we would be better
for it? And the answer is yes, And so I
like the way this woman put it, so I'll share
that with you. Then we're going to talk about the
importance of sleep, because I know we've talked about that
on the podcast many times before, but right now, especially
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with maybe some stress and anxiety that you might be feeling,
sleep is just so so important, and I hope that
y'all are prioritizing that so it's nothing like you haven't
heard before, which just a little refresher, I think for
all of us on how to get a good night's sleep.
And then the fourth thing, Lisa from at the Well
Necessities on Instagram, who I am doing the Outweigh podcast
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with She or a series which is living on this
podcast Four Things. It comes out on Saturday. So she
sent out an email blast to her fork the Noise followers,
and I'm a part of that community. So I got
the email and I thought, oh, I'm going to read
her email and then I'm gonna play the trail are
here because the trailer launched as its own thing last Saturday,
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but maybe you missed it, so I will be playing
it along with her email, and then yeah, we'll get
to the outro and I'll do my email shout out,
which you can send emails to four Things with Amy
Brown at gmail dot com if you've got questions for
Tuesday's Q and A episode, or you just want to
tell me something and you never know when it might
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end up in one of these episodes. So I appreciate
each and every one of you for listening. Y'all are
awesome and we will get through this together. These are
just crazy, crazy times, but you're not alone in whatever
you're feeling, and if you are actually having to live alone,
please make sure that you're reaching out to friends and
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family or arranging video calls or FaceTime, which speaking of,
as I'm recording this, my dad is calling me, so
I'm gonna hit decline, but don't or I will call
him right back. He's someone that I haven't been able
to see in like for weeks in person. I mean,
I've gone by to drop off stuff at his assistant
living place, but I have to see him through a
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glass door and just wave. But I haven't gotten to
give him a hug. And I see him on Amazon
my Amazon show Echo. I see him on video, and
that's probably the coolest investment I've made in a while.
So if y'all have a trouble communicating with family and
they don't know how to work FaceTime, like my dad,
then I recommend getting one of the Amazon show Echo
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thingies because you can video with them and it's awesome. Okay,
here is today's episode Enjoy first. Okay, so I've got
my husband here with me for this thing, and we're
going to talk about surviving quarantine as a couple. And
maybe you're not in a relationship, maybe you just have roommates,
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or maybe you're also trying to survive it and you
live alone. Like that to me would also be really hard.
Now in the beginning, not gonna lie probably be pretty awesome.
I also want to recognize for some people that would
be absolute torture if they love to be around people,
but then they live alone and then all of a
sudden we're isolated, Like that would be really hard. Like
Stevenson right now, Like he needs to be around people,
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touched and be close emotional, like the guy it's got
to be with people. Yeah, that's our son, and he
loves touching and hugging on people, and we have to
tell him no touching, no hugging. I mean, with us,
it's all okay, but even we're trying to practice social distancing,
not knowing we're letting him go out and ride his
bike with us, and sometimes we never know exactly what
he's doing with his hands. He loves to just touch everything,
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and we do wash our hands right and we come
back in and we're trying to be as careful as
possible with asymptomatic. Yeah, it's just it's hard and we're
we're all just here. I know, we're all just trying
to get through this. And I was telling Ben, I
just feel like we're surviving, not thriving, which is a
quote that I Will from a long time ago, got
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from the Hometic girls. They even have it on like
a shirt, which is super cute. But Ben said, well,
I don't want to look at it that way, like
just trying to live. Like I said, we should be
living like not thriving. But like, how do you look
at your day and say, I'm not just gonna try
to survive today while I'm stuck at home, um working,
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doing school and all the things you have to do
to keep everything going. I want to figure out how
to make the best of it, Like how do we
make that into our life and a life? Because survival
to me, like I've been through survival training, like you
are actually just trying to survive the day, or the
week or the trip. It's when you look at it
that way, you could like, hey, we're not just trying
to survive this just for the week, Like now, we're
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trying to live our best life through this, right and
now it's just been extended, so we're gonna be living
this way for a while. So I think Ben has
a good point. We should have a healthy perspective on it.
And I think everywhere you turn it's like, Okay, how
are we going to survive quarantine? How are we surviving
this isolation? But shift our thinking and just say this
is our this is our new normal. How are we
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going to live through this as best as we can.
It's different, it's not easy, but you can still make
the best of it. I think fear during this time
is totally legitimate, and if you are having any of
those feelings, to be able to have someone to talk
to about them, whether it is your roommate or your
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significant other, your spouse, maybe you if you live alone,
you get someone on face time or video that you
can talk through your fears with. The news was on
the other day and I saw that nursing home that
had COVID people in it. My Dad's and assisted living home,
and I just broke down and started crying, and I'm
glad that I was able to do that. And you
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came over and gave me a hug and held me
and told me it was going to be fine. And
I appreciated that because I didn't feel like I had
to put on a front and be strong and we
got to power through. So also, I'll say that to
you if you ever have a moment where you want
to share your fears with me or you want to cry,
that's fine, I'll be there. I'm trying to be more
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authentic with my feelings. Yeah, what's that about? Means when
you're insides match your outsides. So I'm focusing on that.
So if I do feel sad, then I can be said,
that's right, and I think I just don't feel sad
right now. That's the number one thing we can do
for the people that we are isolated with and be
honest about what you're feeling. And communication right now is
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so important. Try to communicate schedules, communicate about the day,
communicate plans. But also because we're just going with the flow,
if the plan isn't exactly and you've caught me, You've
done a really a job the last couple of days
where you could tell in the morning, I was starting
to wrap up and I was getting with the schedule,
with the schedule, because the schedule change, and I'm a
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scheduled person and it was starting to change, and I
was starting to get wrapped up. Well, with your kids
in homeschool, a schedule is important, but but go ahead.
But you you just you came over and you were
nice about it. You gave me a hug, and then
he said, hey, can we pray right now or let's
just let's go take a deep breath. It just helped
me to kind of calm down and go, Okay, it's
gonna be It's gonna be fine. But I just start
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getting that anxious feeling when things are changing outside of
my control. Um. But we had to be more flexible
right now. Yeah, And I think also being understanding if
one person is about to have a breakdown, let him
have it, because if you do, if you are a
couple or somebody that has kids at home right now too,
and you're trying to do the whole school thing and
do your job and maintain your relationship, it's a lot
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and I've had a few freak out moments, and I
think you've just let me. And the feelings are your feelings,
even if I don't think they're rational, like, they're still
your feelings. They are. Like when I was holding that
baking dish earlier, I wanted to slam it on the ground,
but I didn't. Did you see me have that control?
Did you see remember that baking dish that you wanted
to put in the dishwasher and then I thought it's
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not necessary, I'll just hand wash it and put in
the cabinet, and then the thing almost go airborne. It did,
like I fell so much. Also, I'm whatever I have
going on with me, perimenopausal. My hormones are a roller coaster. Perry,
Isn't that I think that's what it's called. It's not
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pre it's Perry p R. I okay, So you I
can't remember then what we started talking about. I think
it was because you had started thing was starting. I
was starting to get tense about things were changing, and
then you didn't like where I was putting stuff into
the dishwasher and so well. But it started with something
about Stevenson and how you got wrapped around the axle
about something that didn't matter, but that anyway, talking through
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right now, people don't need to know exactly what we're
fighting about. But it did lead to me holding the
baking dish and me thinking, God, I feel so good
to just slam this on the ground right now, But
I didn't, and I dried it off. Didn't make that
sound so sweet. I put it in the cabinet and
I was like, oh, good bye, little dish. I'm so
glad you didn't slam the big dish on the floor
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and breaking like, cut your f But if I had
nice of you, I think that you would have been like, Okay,
we're this is our this is our life right now,
we're going to live through this, Like how are we
gonna be okay? With this? Talk about Uncle Rico? I
would have gone after that, bandage your foot up. I'd
have gone upstairs the attic and got my helmet and
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let's start wearing my helmet when we're doing dishes to
make sure I don't get hurt. We haven't talked about
Uncle Rico, and we were talking about Uncle Rico before
we came on to record, and so what what would
be Uncle Rico about that? Getting out of my pot
helmet to make sure I don't get hit. Okay, he yes.
I called him Uncle Rico earlier because his parents sent
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him this power lifting shirt from his high school days
during their self quarantine. They were cleaning out the attict
together recently found your What is it? It's the state
championship powerlifting district championship T shirt that you have. I'm
sorry it was regional regionals. How didn't get past regionals?
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But okay, I didn't get to regionals though, good job,
proud of you. It's a crop top T shirt. His
neck is cut out, the sleeves are cut off, and
he came and put it on, and you've been wearing it,
and I thought, okay, Uncle Rico. But with your other
T shirts that I didn't want in the drawer, you
have a bunch like that I made. I made into
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a blanket, which I thought was awesome. But you want
me to leave this one a lamb. I don't touch it, okay.
I'm so excited to find another a shirt that I
could hold onto from those days and not have to
worry about you make turn into some sort of towel
or head wrapped that. But I can't use anymore, So
you know that thing would be great for summertime landoling
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with your camera. Shorts and boots don't work anymore, but
the camera shorts I got those still? Okay. Well, if
you need to crop any of your other shirts, I
have a d I Y crop tutorial on shop is
splas Instagram. People ask me all the time how do
I crop my stuff? Because I crop our cool amp pullovers,
and I cropped like I cropped the Empowered Women pull
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over that we're making now. I crop everything. Are four
things pullovers. I just like cropping because I wear high
waisted yoga pants all the time or high waisted jeans.
But I haven't put on jeans and weeks and I
probably won't. Although some people I see while they're in quarantine,
they're still getting dressed with full makeup and clothes. And
if that makes you feel better, than totally do it.
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That's just not I'm putting on sunscreen and yoga pants
and that's about It's about it. Maybe stretch, maybe some sweats.
Would you like for me to get more dressed up?
Are you what you need to do? You're gonna take
me on a quarantine date? You haven't asked me out
to go anywhere. So I haven't felt the need to
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get dressed up and get through the drive through somewhere awesome.
Maybe yeah, I guess. I see Bobby did that with Caitlin.
I guess they went to Starbucks for like a date,
So I guess that is possibility. Okay, back to the
crop being people ask all the time, so I thought
I'll just throw this in here. But it's at shop
A spot E S p W A and under the
highlights there's a circle that says d I Y Crop
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Tutorial and that's where you can learn how to crop
your shirts if you're looking for some time to kill
during all this. But yeah, you can do it. Don't
be nervous about it. You can. But I just will
say disclaimer, don't start too short because everybody's torso is different.
But in the d I Y we measure it so
you can see. But your crop, your powerlifting crop, I
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mean that is a major belly button showing. Well yeah,
because it wasn't belly button. We took the trainers scissors
like you used to have, and you put your your
pads on and then you just cut under the pad.
You were just making sure your pads weren't rubbing on.
You didn't measure, No, I measured just I just put
my pads on and then I cut what wasn't under
the pads and then done. Okay, Um, Continuing on the
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conversation of getting through this new life together, I'm trying,
not trying to you survive just like, oh my gosh,
we gotta survive this well. I just want to encourage
people to take breaks from each other if you need it.
If you are trying to work, maybe you find your
respective work spaces at your house and that's your new office.
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It doesn't have to necessarily be together. Maybe some hours
could be together, but others you can work separately if
there's room for that. And also just takes breaks from
each other no matter what I mean, nobody is great
with somebody seven for however long this is going to last.
So I think it's okay to say, hey, you know,
this is gonna be my time to go do whatever.
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The only TV time we're getting though, because we just
don't have any time for that right now with working
in the kids, but is our bedtime, which we have
been watching Ozark together right before bed. We get in
one episode and then we go to sleep so and
season three is back on Netflix, so heads up on that.
And if you haven't started season one or two. Oh,
it's not Netflix, it's Amazon. No, it's Netflix. Noh, yeah,
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I do whatever. You're right, and the one that sets
it up. Okay, sorry I got confused for a second.
It's Netflix. And you're lucky you if you haven't watched
any because you have season one, season two, and season
three that you could get through, which been you were
out of town when I watched Tiger King. So you
do you even know what Tiger King is? I mean,
I got the gist. What is the gist? Some dude
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raises tigers and they end up getting into an argument
with another group that raises tigers and then that's it.
But they end up going to jail. I don't know,
there's so much more to it. I get that you're
just like picking up on little bits and pieces, but
I was even shocked if you all haven't watched Tiger King,
which I thought everyone in the world had, but my
husband has not. But again, I don't know when you'll
squeeze it in because I've already watched it. Well, and
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I think the same thing when you're living through this.
You know this time, you gotta make sure you stay
on a schedule, like you can't just go and you're like,
you know what, I don't have to go into work tomorrow,
so I'm gonna binge all night long, and then tomorrow
I'm tired and I'm barely getting anything done because you
gonna go down that rabbit hole of like not like
of surviving instead of setting your schedules, stick to your schedule,
watch one show. You can't be benjing stuff all day long,
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because then you can't get work done, you can't improve yourself,
you can't find ways to make this better than just
I'm stuck at home. I can't do what's I'm saving.
I'm excited for us to watch some stuff on Saturday
or maybe do a movie with the kids, to really relax.
I'm still I still see. I wasn't seeing Monday through
Sunday as much, but now I am because we're because
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school is in session, work is still happening, and I
literally am still find myself looking forward to the weekend.
I'm like, Okay, I'll put that on Saturday. Sunday list,
I'll put that on Saturday. You know, we can save
that for the weekend um also practice good self care,
which I think when I had Catherine de fata on
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and we were talking about surviving COVID nineteen, that's the
language we used. You know, she gave us the difference
between self care and self maintenance. And so go back
and listen to that episode if you have not, but
make sure that you're, you know, keeping up with yourself emotionally, spiritually, physically,
whatever that looks like for you, and whatever parts are
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gonna be self care, which it looks different for everybody,
and then what parts are gonna be self maintenance, which
for us, we're trying to make sure that we both
get to work out every day, but we have to
schedule it. We can't do it at the same time.
So I've already gotten in my workout today, but I
know that you need to get it in later, so
I'll have to make sure that I've got the kids
handled and you can get your workout in. And then
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I realized I hadn't shaved in like three or four days.
What are you gonna do? Well? I shaved yesterday. It
felt great. Yeah, I have a beard still, but I
cleaned it up. I got it tight like back in order.
So like that small stuff like keeps it just made
me feel great. Same thing I hadn't a similar thing.
I hadn't washed my hair, and I'm going to tell you,
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but I did yesterday and it felt so good. I
felt like a whole new person. So just little things
like that can be good for your relationship. Because while
I would love to just not wash my hair for
a full week, that's not fair to you when you
have to come over and hug me. And what are
we going to do about your hair? You're just gonna
let it grow. Am I going to have to learn
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how to cut it? No, We're just gonna let it go. Um.
And then another thing I'll recommend is if if you're
still in therapy, maybe you could set up uh phone
calls or FaceTime sessions with your therapist, which were Ben
and I are not in couples therapy right now, although
I guess we could start that virtually with somebody no
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time that are the present, but I have been doing
FaceTime meetings with my therapist which have been good. So
I'm trying to work through some stuff and just continue
to do that. I would encourage you just if you
were in couples counseling, or you were each seeing your
own therapist. Try to reach out to your therapist and
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see if you can keep that going. Sure is that
good advice? Okay, well, there you go. I mean, we're
not experts or anything, but we're just trying to do
our part to also let you know that if you
feel crazy or frustrated, or you're fighting over stupid stuff
or you're screaming, you're not. You're not alone. Your normal
don't especially heavy ones. Just don't throw ceramic baking dishes,
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which I didn't. We should acknowledge the fact that I
gently put it in the cabinet. I used to not
like to throw things. In fact, one time, my sister
told me that her because my sister to me seems
like the sweetest angel, doesn't she perfecttle angel? So perfect?
And her husband and her were being honest with us,
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and he's like, whatever, she threw a bull of cereal
at me the other day, You'll have no idea the
rage she can have. And I thought, what part of
me was so shocked, But then another part of me
just felt so good about myself. But I am jealous.
You were jealous that she got to throw something. Now
you want to throw things. But at that point in
my hormones that was I was younger. I didn't want
to throw things. I didn't understand that. But she had
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already had babies. I don't know what was going on
with her hormones, and she throwing things felt good to her.
And now I get it. We have to start tying
everything down. I don't want to harm that. I'm gonna
give you like a three ft string on it. You
can throw it, but it only goes a little ways.
I don't want to anybody, anybody in the house, and
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you got to do anything to people or animals been
I'm just saying, if you want to pat on the
bag because you gently sit down and baking. Yeah, yeah, progress,
baby steps I'm very proud of because we're trying to
live our best life through this quarantine, not our bet.
Let's just say live. Let's just step it up just
a little bit. We're going to live. We're gonna find
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ways to live through this, say our best life, because
then they're like, well, it's not my best, so I
can't do it. Just live, don't learn not my best.
So yeah, it's a good way to put it. Okay, Well, uh,
thank you Ben for coming on. I'm sure Ben might
be a frequent guest from in the near future given
our circumstances. I'm here, Okay, le me call all right, Okay,
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I'll call you. I'll call you from the other room. Okay. Now,
I want to share something with you that I found
online that was written by Laura Kelly Fanuci. And I
don't know for sure for sure from saying her last
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name correctly, but in case you want to find this
and print it out and frame it U her last
name is f A in U C C I. Okay,
And here's what she wrote. When this is over, may
we never again take for granted a handshake with a stranger,
full shelves at the store, conversations with neighbors, a crowded theater,
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Friday night out, the taste of communion, a routine check up,
the school rush each morning, coffee with a friend, the
stadium roaring each deep breath, a boring Tuesday life itself.
When this ends, may we find that we have become
more like the people we wanted to be, we were
called to be, we hope to be, and maybe stay
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that way better for each other because of the worst.
So yeah, I just thought that was something. If you
haven't seen it, thought would be good for you to
hear it. And if you want to go find it,
print it out like I said, frame it, keep it
in your back pocket, send it to yourself, email it,
put it as your screen saver or something. I think
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that these are important words to remember, the little things
that we definitely took for granted. I know I for
sure took a lot of this for granted when it
was something that was just part of our day to day.
And then, you know, I do want us to come
out of this stronger and better, and I do hope
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that we find who we want to be during all
of this, and we accomplish more and we still have
dreams and we don't give up, and we work together.
And I love seeing all the good news on Instagram.
Following good news type accounts is so important right now.
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If you're still involved in social media, you cannot get
bogged down by the news. And I'll tell you something
that's been really good and I love that he's doing
it is on YouTube. John Krasinski, who's gym from the office,
launched a YouTube news show called Some Good News. S
g N is the name of his news channel, and
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it's so good, So I highly encourage you to go
watch that as well and find ways to keep it
positive and to just see how our country and the
world is uniting to help each other through this and
know that we can come out of it on the
other side and we'll look back on as just being
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this totally bizarre, crazy thing that really tested us in
so many ways, but we're going to be thankful for
it because it made us who we are, you know,
in the future, and hopefully that's going to be a
better version of ourselves and as a community and as
a nation and as a world. Okay, So for this thing,
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I want to talk about the importance of sleep. I
saw an article on g m A on how to
get a perfect night's sleep, so I pulled the main
points and I want to share them because we've talked
about the importance of sleep before on this podcast. I
feel like sleep is super important. We've touched on it
a lot over the last year or so, but it's
crucial to get a good night's sleep right now with
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everything that's going on, So to me, it's im and
to bring this up again. So sleep, just know that
is when your body does these four things. Recharges, restores, resets,
and repairs. Now, the general recommendation for how much sleep
and adult needs per night is seven to nine hours.
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I would say the night before last I got no
sleep because for whatever reason, Ben was tossing and turning
and he kept waking up. I mean, he felt really
bad about it too. I mean, there was nothing we
could do about it, but it kept me up all
night long. And then then, I mean I felt horrible.
And then the next night I was able to get
we prioritized when we went to bed and when our
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alarm was going to go off the next morning. We're
both trying to get eight to nine hours of sleep,
and I think I got eight hours and forty five
minutes and it felt so amazing. And so I know
that y'all know this, but I'm just giving you an
example of firsthand how much better I fell after having
recommended sleep. And if you've got kids in the house,
there could be more sleeping going on. And don't get
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onto your kids. If they're sleeping more, they need it.
Teenagers should get between eight to ten hours, and children
from ages six to thirteen, which I've got a nine
year old and a twelve year old, they should get
between nine and eleven hours. So I know sometimes I
feel weird letting my daughter sleep in, but or sleep
in really late, but eleven if she needs eleven hours,
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that's that's a long time, and I need to make
sure that she can get it because she does function
better now. If I let her oversleep, that's when her
attitude is a little grumpy. Now, if you're curious about
the best position for sleep, experts say that sleeping on
your stomach is not the best option. Again, I'm sure
you know that, but just reminding you sleeping on your
back or your side is totally fine. Overall, most people
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move around when they sleep, so just go for what's
comfortable while protecting your neck, back and spine. Ben and
I just got a new bed that has a remote control,
and it's a hospital bed type situation where you can
lean it up and lean it back and raise your
feet and it's it's pretty cool. We don't totally agree
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on where it should be, and each of we don't
have some beds you can have. Each side has its
own controls, but ours is the same no matter what.
So if I'm up, he has to be up and
it's it was super sweet. The other night He's handed
me the moone. He's like, you can drive tonight, and
I was like, oh, thank you. So I got to
put it on the setting that I wanted. Another thing
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that is hard to do at night is to not
watch TV before bed. I just don't think that Ben
and I are ever going to stop doing that, but
it really is bad to have light around when you sleep,
and shutting down the TV and then maybe reading for
thirty minutes would be recommended if you could, because you
don't want to mess with the release of melotonin, which
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is our sleep hormone. I I will admit this is
where I struggle, Like I just want to turn the
TV off and fall asleep, but really Ben and I
should try to watch our episode of whatever and then
grab a book turn off lights. But even when you
have a light on to read a book, you're still
messing with it. But it's a different kind of light
than the TV. I guess some people have to sleep
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with the TV on and that's just not getting you
a good night's sleep if you have to do that,
or they sleep with some sort of light on the
whole night, and that is definitely not recommended at all.
Sometimes our door is open and I don't realize it,
and we have this oven light or from our overhead
in our kitchen that somehow makes it all the way
into our room. It's blue, and I'll know right away
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that it's I can't close my eyes and I have
to go remember to shut the door because that light
will keep me up. So even look out for little
lights that might be surprising you that are making their
way into your room, like, for example, if your door
isn't shut all the way like mine. Also keep in
mind that experts recommend setting a schedule and sticking to it,
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which is really crazy. In these times. You might find
yourself staying up a lot later than usual because maybe
you don't have to get ready for work and take
the time driving to commute to your office, and then
you're maybe not waking up at the same time and
you're just all over the place because you don't know
if it's Monday or it's Thursday. But try to set
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a schedule and stick to it, and then meditation is
helpful for people to relax. Exercise is super important to
keep going if you need to. I mean, not exercise
before bed necessarily, but just making that a part of
your day will help you have a more RESTful night's sleep.
If you are having trouble calming down, taking a warm
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bath or having a hot cup of tea will help
relax you, but avoid caffeine and alcohol and again, bright
screens right before bed. You may also want to try
a sleep machine or an eyemask. My husband sleeps with
an eyemask. I can't sleep with those. They just annoy me,
but he loves it. Or if you have a lot
of anxiety right now, it might be the perfect time
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to try out away to blanket. But you've just got
to pick what works best for you. And when it
comes to any kind of medicine, I mean during these times,
I get it, but doctors say to be careful. It
can be okay short term, but it is not ideal
for to use for long periods of time. But I
think we all know that. And then the best possible
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environment for your bedroom for a good night's sleep is
to have it cool, dark and quiet. Okay, So there
you go. Uh those are some tips, just reminders. Again,
nothing crazy that you probably haven't ever heard before, but
just good reminders if you're trying to get good sleep
because it's very very very very very important. Right now,
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for the last thing today, I'm going to share an
email that Lisa sent out. Who's at the Well Necessities,
She's who I'm doing the series on this podcast every
Saturday for this month in April, so this Saturday were
the first one called Outweigh where we break the stigma
and uncover the gray area of disordered eating. And I'm
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gonna share with you all an email that she sent
out to her people, her community and fork the noise.
And it's something I received and I thought, Okay, well,
this is a good way to kind of summarize again
what's happening. And then at the end of it, I'm
gonna play the trailer for you that launched last Saturday
in case you missed it, because again, episode one will
be this Saturday. If you're subscribed to this podcast for
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Things with Amy Brown, it'll automatically upload. So if this
is something you need or something somebody that you know needs,
please share the word with them and make sure that
they're subscribed to four Things with Amy Brown. So here's
the email that leaves us and out. Hi 'all, I've
got some exciting news radio personality Amy Brown and I
created a new podcast series called Outweigh. I flew down
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to Nashville for two days recorded with Amy and the
I Heart Radio Studio, and everything a career highlight for me,
which is made even more special by the fact that
this passion project is fueled by my own past struggles.
I'm so excited to help more people shatter shame so
that they can begin to start to live their best life.
Right now, shame feeds off silence, but when we share
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our truths, we starve shame of its existence. I know
this to be true firsthand. Outweigh exposes the gray area
of eating disorders and will live under the popular Four
Things with Amy Brown podcast. Thanks Lisa for staying popular.
This past Saturday, we launched our two minute trailer and
it gives me chills to hear it. What you need
to know an episode a week will be released each
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Saturday for four weeks beginning April four this Saturday. Also,
in each episode, we'll hear personal stories from real people
alongside insights from qualified experts to prove that life without
disordered eating outweighs everything and that achieving it is in
fact possible. Throughout each episode, you'll hang with me and Amy,
just two women who have been there and get it.
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I'd love for you to give the trailer a listen.
If you're moved or excited by it, I'd so appreciate
you sharing it with your family or friends, which you
guys are in luck y'a don't even have to click
a button. I'm just playing the trailer for you right here,
and then at the end of it, I'll have today's outro,
which will be an email shout out. Y'all can email
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me four Things with Amy Brown at gmail dot com
if you've got questions for our Tuesday Q and a segment,
or if you just have thoughts and you never know when,
your email might end up in the shout out section,
which is at the end of each episode. So here's
the trailer and I'll see you on the other side.
Maybe that's Lisa, and We're just two girls that want
to have a conversation with you. Dear sixteen year old Andrea, Hey, gorgeous,
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Dear younger Lauren. Each episode is stories from people. I
would deprive myself by myself obsessively because I was eating healthy.
I couldn't understand that I had a problem with food.
Losing my period scared me the most. My story starts
when I was around seven. That's when I started to
hate my body. Body image is like our inner picture
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of our outer. Healthy behaviors play a much bigger role
at all health than the actual number on the scales.
Internal dialogue would be so powerful and often it's paper
negative and critical in a way that we wouldn't talk
to other people that we care about. When you start
to share your story, that gives other people the courage
to share theirs. I know you would be proud now
of how far you have come in your relationship to food, exercise,
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and to yourself. I felt freedom, I've gained relationships. I've
found my true sense of self worth. There's one thing
I need you to take away from this. You're going
to be okay. I'm Amy Brown, host of Four Things
with Amy Brown, and I'm Lisa Haim, registered dietitian and
founder of The Well Necessities and Fork the Noise. We
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got together to break the stigma and expose the truth
about disordered eating, and a new four part podcast series,
We're calling Outweigh will expose the gray area of eating disorders,
the subclinical tendencies that many of us partaken but fail
to get helpful. Both having overcome our own struggles with
disordered eating, we want to make sure no one feels
alone in this journey and that freedom is in fact possible.
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Throughout the series, we'll hear from real people with personal
stories who have found freedom after a fight, as well
as speak with experts to best guide and navigate this territory.
Our goal is to start a conversation to instill hope
for those who are struggling and provide space for both
those going through it and those who have overcome it.
We're just two women who get it, and we found
power in voicing our own struggles. We want you to
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feel less alone, to help you remove the shame factor
so you can live your most aligned life free of food,
embody image captivity. Okay, that's it on today's episode, and
now it is time for the email shout out. This
email comes from Susan Hey Amy. I wanted to start
by saying how much I enjoy your four Things podcast.
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I've been listening to it since the beginning. I've listened
to the Bobby Bones Show since two thousand and fifteen,
and I'm a fan of all of you when I
started listening to your podcast. I love the idea of
being grateful for four things. I incorporated it into nightly
prayers with my two year old daughter. After we say
our prayers each night, we name four things that were
grateful for or I tell her what made us happy
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that day. I usually name something that I know made
her happy that day and she says yeah. Every once
in a while she will say something like we saw Grandma.
She is three now, so she can talk. I love
the idea of instilling gratitude and joy at a young age,
so that she knows that no matter how big or
small something is in her life, we are thankful for everything.
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And like I said, some things are little, like we
ate gummy bears, or we saw a garbage truck, or
that we went all the way to Disney and met Ariel.
I think it's the smaller things that make her the
most happy. I also wanted to say thank you for
being honest on the Bobby Bones show with your fertility
struggles and the adoption process, and now on the podcast
with your Life and Raising Kids. I to struggle with fertility.
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We had to go through fertility to get pregnant with
my daughter. We also want more kids, and I'm happy
to say that after going through IVF, we are pregnant again.
Last spring and summer we began the journey with IVF,
and I listened to your podcast weekly while I was
home or driving to see the fertility doctor. Going through
fertility treatments is very emotional, as you know, so hearing
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you always give examples of how you or others choose
joy really helped lift my spirits and stay positive. I
want you to know that I appreciated that very much.
Please continue to spread joy and positivity. You've impacted more
people than you know. And thanks Susan, she said, thanks again,
Susan Haggardy. So, Susan, congratulations on being pregnant. And I
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appreciate this email so much because man, I was tired
when it came down to recording this week's episode, and
I thought what am I doing? Why? And and plus
all four things were me. I didn't have an interview.
I felt like I needed somebody else to be on
here with me to make it something worthwhile for people
to listen into. UM. So I appreciate this email and
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you appreciating when I share my personal stories or what
I'm going through and that they resonate with you, and
again it reminds me that why I'm doing this, and
I don't want anybody to feel alone no matter what's
going on in life. So yeah, I just I appreciate
you taking the time to share that with me, and
I love that you do the four Things Gratitude with
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your daughter, which are four things Gratitude challenge was the
whole month of March and now it's April two, so
it's over, but a lot of people, given the state
of the world, are going to continue on with it,
which I think is awesome. All you have to do
is journal four things every day that you're thankful for,
or type them into your phone, take a screenshot, put
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it on Instagram, at shoppics, BLA, at Radio Amy at
the shot forward. We want to see it hashtag four
Things Gratitude. And then if you want one of our
four Things journals, you can go to four things dot
com and find those there. If you happen to be
also doing Mother's Day shopping, you can get her the
customized toe and then get yourself a four Things Gratitude
journal um or something like that. Just a bunch of
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stuff up there. If you all have any shopping to do,
and you're wanting to support a small business. The Shot
Forward is a small business too and has employees and
warehouse people. And I know that everyone is looking for
ways to help out, So maybe it's not even with
the Shop Forward. It could be locally in your community.
Anytime I think of small businesses, I think of my
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sister's coffee shop and Pagosa Springs. She's got coffee that's
up for sale because I mean, they're struggling, just like
a lot of people, with making sure they keep employees
on and busy so that their employees can have money.
And their website is root house co dot com if
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you happen to need any coffee. But really, just look around.
Anybody can support. Who is your hair person? Who is
anybody in your life? Your favorite restaurant in your neighborhood.
Can you get a gift card? Can you order take
out from them? Um? And when I mentioned hair person,
maybe you could just get a gift card to your
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salon and cash in on it later. So sort of
like floating them alone because they're not getting any business
right now at all. Okay, that is it for today's episode.
I hope You'll have a wonderful day, whatever day it
is that you're listening to this. Okay, okay cast up
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Roath Little food for Yourself life, ain't Oh it's pretty Bay,
It's pretty beautiful. Thanks beautiful laugh a little month, said he.
You're kicking with four with Amy Brown.