Sister Time. Pink Hair. OUTWEIGH Follow-up. Healthcare Hero Shout Out.

FIRST THING: Amy’s sister Cristi is here to talk about how she is dealing with homeschooling her 4 kids and this season of life! Lots of laughs and youtube kid recommendations, yay! SECOND THING: Since most people are hanging out at home, now is the perfect time to get a little crazy and try something new and fun with you hair! Amy’s best friend Meri is on to talk about the new hair trend of temporarily dying your hair pink!! They also share awesome mothers day gift ideas. THIRD THING: Lisa{@thewellnecessities} is back to recap the OUTWEIGH series and offer some tips for those who are continuing to work through disordered eating. FOURTH THING: Time for another Healthcare Hero Shoutout and this weeks superstar is Rachel!!! Thank you so much for all you and your family do! 

 

 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
Okay, casing little food for you. So life ain't Oh
it's pretty Bay, it's pretty beautiful than laugh a little

(00:23):
more kicking with four Okay, Happy Thursday. Everybody intro is
going to be quick today. I'll just give you a
menu of what is to come in this episode because
it's a lot of totally different things. My sister is on.

(00:46):
For the first thing, it's just a quick, little ten
minute chat with her about how she's getting through uh
this season of life, and it's with laughter. She has
some YouTube accounts to suggest, and then we derailed us
can end up talking about Pretty Woman because she decided
to watch that movie with her kids. But before you
judge us, just know that our parents took us. I mean,

(01:09):
I haven't watched Pretty Well with my kids yet. I
don't think that I'll do that. But sister, if you're
listening to this, I'm not judging you. But our parents
took us when we were kids. I was nine years old.
So we get into some of that, and she has
a funny quote to share as well that I laughed at,
especially if you are homeschooling, which a lot of us are.

(01:31):
And then for the second thing, we talked about pink hair.
That is all the rage right now in quarantine tinting
your hair pink. And Mary has done this before, so
I got her to come on and talk about it
and give us the best tips on how to do
it and you can get the pink hair tenant target.
And then while I've got Marry on, we talked about
some of our super cute Mother's Day gifts that are
available up and we wanted to share them with you

(01:54):
because the deadline if you want to get them in
time for Mother's Day Fingers Crossed is tomorrow, uh, Friday,
May one. If you're listening to this on Thursday, I mean,
you can always order something at any point, even on
Saturday or Sunday, but we just can't guarantee delivery. Then
for the third thing, I've got an Outweigh follow up.
You know. Outweigh is the eating disorder series that I

(02:17):
did with Lisa at the Well Necessities on Instagram, So
I have her on and we just do follow up chat.
We felt like it would be good to just recap
a little bit after all four episodes since they're now
out there and maybe you've listened to all four. Uh,
this might be a good thing. For you to listen to.
And if you haven't listened to any of Things any

(02:39):
Outweigh episodes, then maybe you listen to this recap and
realize that the series might be something good for you
to listen to. And it is a series that lives
inside the four Things podcast. It just was uploading on Saturdays,
and if you subscribe to the podcast then you automatically
get it, which now I guess I'll take a second
to say, if you're not subscribed, I'm awesome. If you

(03:01):
did subscribe and you can write and review, Uh, you know,
no pressure to give it five stars, but if you
want to, you can go do that pretty sure. I
think that's how it works. I do have people that
don't give me and I like constructive criticism too, so
you can put that on there as well. And then
for the fourth thing today, it is the healthcare hero

(03:22):
shout out, which I'm doing every episode um for I
don't know in the near future for sure, because it's
just I think an important thing right now. So what
I want you all to do is email me healthcare
hero shoutouts four Things with Amy Brown at gmail dot
com so that I can read through those. And I'm
really just picking them randomly, but I do love reading

(03:42):
through them. And I don't know how long we'll keep
this thing going, but hopefully every week I'll have a
new shout out and maybe there's some way, shape or
form we can bless the hero that you've nominated, even
if they don't make it into you know, the actual podcast.
And if if your email doesn't make it. It's really
nothing personal ever ever, it's just randomly or just if

(04:06):
something catches my eye or I have to eaty MENI
mini moent because there's there's every email is a great email.
So uh, don't forget you can do that. Signleman health
Care Hero shoutouts for things with Amy Brown at gmail
dot com. Okay, uh, that is the menu for today's episode,
So let's get started. My sister on and I reached

(04:30):
out to you not that long ago and said, hey,
you know, how how are you handling all this? And
your response was you find yourself being like our mom
saying I just want to laugh. And so some people
might not know the backstory behind I just want to laugh.
They may know that the backstory behind I want to
choose joy, but it stems from the very first conversation

(04:52):
that she had with us along with the joy, but
when she was diagnosed with cancer and when she told us,
so that's what you replied to me, So I'll let
you share your thoughts on laughter during this pandemic. But
with mom just real quick on that. We were sitting
at our kitchen table and it was the first time
she was telling us that she had cancer. It was
kind of like the words came out of her mouth,
I have cancer, and obviously the world stuffed, it felt like,

(05:14):
and then then her next words were, and I just
want to laugh. She just didn't want it to be
like Debbie Downer the whole time. She wanted to find
something good in it all and still feel up and
positive some way, somehow, even though it's really hard. I
think whenever you messaged me, you said something like, um,
I just wanted to see what you were clinging to
right now, and in my head, I was like, it

(05:35):
doesn't feel like I'm clinging to anything, honestly, Like during
this is all foreign and weird and unending, and I
don't know how to handle the situation well. And so
it's something more like what I'm doing is grasping for air,
like when you're crossing the monkey bars and you like
miss the bar and then you fall in your space
and the dirt. That's how I feel. I don't feel

(05:57):
like I've been handling this amazing, but I do know
that laughing makes me feel better. And to get before
you get into what you've been using for laughter, just
some backstory on Christie. She's a wife and a mother
of four and a business owner. So when you have
a lot of that going on in a pandemic, it
can be everybody's affected in different ways. But just so

(06:19):
that people know kind of what's on your plate. You know,
I love being home, but I also love alone time
and I don't get much of that at all, So
I find myself having to get out to be alone somehow.
But you can't go anywhere, so so I take a
lot of walk. I don't think you have seen this yet,
but I asked you if you had seen Dude Dad,
And it's this guy. He puts a lot of videos

(06:40):
where he's like acting like his wife. He just kind
of is impersonating her, and he wears a wig and
he does all these funny things. Well, he does this
one that's about his wife and quarantine, and you know,
it's like her making her own cleaning products and talking
to a friend and doing all these Pinterest cooking and
she's failing. And then she goes to Target and nobody's
there but since she passed this one person and she's

(07:02):
like tried to stay sick, meet away and then they're
out of coffee creamer and she's just super pissed because
she really wants her coffee creamer. And it's just a
really it's hard to do it justice without watching it.
I think it's on YouTube and it's hilarious. And it
came out like in the first couple of weeks of Quarantine,
so it was even more funny because you were just
everything was new. So and then as far as the kids,

(07:23):
they watch, I don't know what it is with dude,
but they watch a lot of Dude Perfect. Do your
kids watch that? I don't know what that is. You
don't know what dude perfect is? Okay. These are five
guys that went to Texas A and M. They lived
together at Texas A and M. They probably graduated maybe
ten years ago, and they started this YouTube channel where
they make random like basketball shot. Now it is grown

(07:44):
into this huge thing and they are hilarious, but they're
also strong Christian so it's really everything they do is
really clean but so funny. Well, I mean, but speaking
of your kids and clean, you also just told me
that you just showed them Pretty Woman, So this is happened.
You know that mom and dad took us to the
movie theater when it came out in nineteen ninety and

(08:05):
so you were nine. I was thirteen. We obviously saw
that movie. That's where we fell in love with Julia Roberts,
even though she had been in Steel Magnolia's but Pretty
Woman was like her breakout the movie, right, Yeah, So
I was like, oh gosh, we got to watch this kids.
You know this, this is like my child. So I'm
watching it with Adelaide and I think Freed watched it too,

(08:28):
which is my twelve almost thirteen year old boy. You know,
during one scene, I mean, I won't be too particular
about the scene, but I mean, Pretty Women's about a prostitute,
so there's things that are going on are suggested. I'd
only kind of looked over me that your mom and
dad took you to the movie, see I hear. But
to be fair, I know I was nine, but I
did not know her vocation. I didn't know what a

(08:49):
prostitute was. I didn't understand what was happening. And I'm
sure they covered our eyes during certain scenes, or mine
at least. I mean, I don't remember if they did
or not it. I'm sure I didn't even know a
lot of what was going on because I don't remember
like being uncomfortable and watching it with them. But there's
a couple of suggestives, so hold on before we get

(09:10):
into that. And why did they take us? I don't
understand why didn't they just get a babysitter. I remember
we asked Mom about it. She said, well, your dad
wanted to go that we all went it. But now
I can't like follow up we should ask Maybe Dad
will not remember last time. I remember the last time
we were with dad. He's been married four times and
we were at our other our half sister's daughter's wedding

(09:31):
last November, and we asked him his first wife was
at the wedding because that's who we had our sister
Kim with and we asked him how he met her,
and he couldn't remember. He didn't know, so I don't
think he'll remember why he took us to Pretty Woman.
That's just but it is one of my favorite. My

(09:54):
top three favorite movies are Pretty Woman, Dirty Dancing, and
Steeve Magnoia's Oh definitely. Speaking of laughter, another thing that
I know you're relying on for that is funny memes
or quotes. And what was the funny quote you shared
with me already forgot it? Well, one of them was
if you see me talking to myself, mind your own business.
I'm having a parent teacher conference, which is like, yeah,

(10:18):
because the homeschooling thing, my older three are doing pretty
good at it, but my third grader needs a lot
of guidance. And then it's a lot of like Google
back room. And I saw another thing that was like
I was talking about how the kind of what happens
when you get an email from the teacher on how
to do everything, and it's like, well, first you go
to zumbldoo when you download Doodlebops, and then you go

(10:38):
to you like everything is like God's just a weird name,
you know, and he doesn't have to go to brain
pop and watching videos and then he goes you know,
obviously has zoom meetings and you know, and I just
am it's I'm sure it's not all hard because obviously

(10:59):
elementary kids are supposed to be handling this, but I
find myself confused by all the little doodle places we're
supposed to go and you know, get things done. I
think we'll get a break. Maybe I'm not sure. I
know someone sent me something yesterday that we may be
schooling remotely in the fall as well, and I was like,

(11:19):
oh right, I know. I can't even imagine that that
it really could be the reality, so we should start
preparing ourselves for that. Before you go, I wanted to
share with you an email that I got because I
thought that you would like it, because I do get
emails about you, and Chassie said, Hey, Amy, I love
your podcast. I've listened all the way back to Christmas
from last year. I wanted to let you know that
I ordered from your sister's coffee shop to show some

(11:42):
love during this quarantine, and I loved the coffee and
the little Choose Joy spoons so much that I ordered
them for my best friend for her birthday. The coffee
is awesome and I'll deaf be ordering more. Thanks for
throwing the love all around, so uh yeah, that's so sweet.
We have with every day. We've gotten so much the
online support with the way stuff is kind of gone.

(12:04):
We've had to revamp our website work on that a
lot because our coffee shop business has probably dropped over um.
We still have quite a few Choose joy spoons to
ship out. And then our coffee we have three roasts
and we can grind them for you for however you
use it, or you can order it in a whole
being situation. We use it here at the house, and

(12:25):
I of course love my Choose Joyce spoon. And then
I have several friends and then even Yeah podcast listeners
that have sent me notes saying they've ordered and how
much they love it. So I'm super proud of you
and Yeah, and I know that this has been it's
not an easy transition, and there's so many small businesses
in the same shoes. But I love that people are
taking time to support small businesses, however that looks for them.

(12:47):
When you do that, you I love seeing the directly.
When I talk to you about it, you're like, yeah,
our guy that roasts our coffee beans, it's giving him work.
And then the woman that lives in New Mexico that
makes the vintage spoons and puts Choose has the vintage
bins and puts Choose Joy on them and then sells
them to y'all. It's it's trickled down effect on the autonomy,
and but we we know them personally, and so that

(13:08):
part is cool. And Mother's Day, I don't know when
are y'all I have marry on in a little bit.
We're we're talking about our cut off is Friday, May
well tomorrow for Mother's Day. What y'alls to guarantee shipping?
I would in the next couple of days. I mean
we would. You would want to get your order in
to be sure that we got it shift out in
the next few days. And then you just got to
have grace and patience. And if your mother's big gift

(13:30):
arrives a little bit late, it's no big deal. I mean,
we're just rolling nothing. I'm finding with a lot of
the deliveries, they are being delayed and what they say
is going to be delivered, it actually doesn't come. And
you know it's a day or to wait. But hopefully,
I mean, if we got orders in the next day
or two, they would go out and I think it'd
being plenty of time for Mother's day. Okay, well, thank
you sister for coming on for some advice on how

(13:52):
you're getting through this. I love that it's through some laughter.
And you should probably call me more because I mean,
I'm pretty funny. Well yeah, just call you. I guess
you could go to do dad or whatever it is,
but I mean call me. Ok You're funny. That's exactly
my point. I know. Okay, dad, dude, perfect, all the dudes,

(14:12):
all the dudes. Okay, Okay, love back. Okay, So I've
got marry on for this thing because I saw that
there was a new trend happening in Quarantine and it's
pink hair. Well, first we were seeing shaved heads was
a thing because I don't know if it's just because

(14:34):
women were going crazy or they just thought I'm not
seeing anybody, so who cares? And actually I kind of
I think for me, I'll never do it, but it
would feel amazing to just shave my head off hair.
Ben would really really appreciate that. I'm sure, no he
doesn't even Oh yeah, he wants me to grow my

(14:54):
hair out along so bad, but something would just be
so freeing to just shave my hair off. But I'm
not going to do it, I would, I'm more likely
to lean into this other trend that I'm seeing people do,
which is dyeing their hair pink. Other people are also
letting their grays really grow out and they're just embracing that.

(15:14):
So that's the thing too. I mean, I'm just by
default nothing my grays are coming through, and it's so
weird how they come through so like wiry and yeah,
because then they just stick straight up and they don't.
I just feel like I have to blend them in.
But luckily they don't look too bad yet. But there's

(15:36):
some people online where their gray hair coming through looks
really beautiful, and I just want to be able to
be okay with that about myself, but I'm just not
there yet. But dying kink I could do that. And
then I remember, wait a second, I'm pretty sure Mary
colored her hair rose gold at some point, and that
really is the color, because what the product people are

(15:58):
specifically using is kristen s Rose Gold Temporary tint and
it's available at Target and it's like twelve dollars, and
so then I messaged you about it and you said
that's the exact brand that you use too. Yeah, so
it's not I wouldn't say it's like coloring your hair,
because it's I mean, it's definitely like you get a
pop of color and it's more of like a faded

(16:19):
rose pink, but it's super subtle. And also it's totally temporary,
so it washes out. I think mine washed out in
three washes. But I mean depending on how light your
hair is or dark your hair is, or how do
you apply it. But so it's like totally temporary. Well,
I mean these days, I'm washing my hair once a
week or so, so that could last me three weeks dearly,

(16:40):
I'm good for a month or two. Did you think
it looked pretty? I mean, I just like that. It's
like a fun change without any commitment, And I feel
like now is the best time to try it, because
like why not, and then you can kind of play
around with the different ways you apply it, like the
results in different levels of pink. So now would be
a time to test that out, because like you don't

(17:01):
want to do it too pink and then you have
to go to the office, because you don't have to
go to the the office right now. I did it a
couple of years ago, and it was an easy process
because I would just do. Oh my gosh, yeah, it's
so easy. It's twelve dollars. Actually when you set me,
I ordered it again, so mind slivering tomorrow and I'm
really excited to do it again. So it's just like
a spray and you do it in the shower, so
you wash your hair like normal, and then you do

(17:21):
it in the shower, which don't do it out of it.
I wanted to do it to like see do not
do that and get your hair your bathroom totally pink.
So do it in the shower and you just spray
and leave it on for a couple of minutes and
that's it, and then you condition your hair and that's it.
Well maybe, yeah, you should totally do it. Yeah, I
feel you would like it. And also so it picks

(17:41):
up on like if you want to be more pink,
you should cowagey your hair because it absorbs. It's like
your hair is like a sponge. So the more wet
your hair is, the less pink littill absorbed. And also
the lighter your hair is, the mortal absorbed, so like
your blonder pieces will pick it up more, which looks
really cool. Okay, well then maybe I'll order them and
I'll try it out kind of absorbing things. Have you

(18:01):
gotten your package in the mail yet that I sent you? Okay, Well,
mail these days has been kind of slow, so I
don't know when you'll get it. But I mailed some
pink crystal light for your mom because I loves that
and she couldn't find it at the store. And I
saw it when I was getting some stuff for my dad.

(18:22):
And then also I got I got got by Instagram ad.
You know, like the hair towels, Like when you get
out of the shower, you put a hair towel in
your head and it absorbs it. Well, this is like
those towel things, but it's a scrunchy and it's in
the scrunchy that's you know, about the size of my hand.
And I totally wanted Oh my god, did you see

(18:44):
it where they like put it in the water pull out?
So I got got by the ad and I ordered
some and I went ahead and got you some too,
because I am jealous of Mary's hair. You could probably
put this scrunchy in your hair and it'll absorb all
the water, and then you could like let it down
and let your hair flow and then your hair will
be good for the day, like Mary's hair comes out

(19:06):
of the shower and air drives, like she went to
the salon mine. I sent her a picture of my
hair what it looks like if I go to bed
with my head wet, but your hair so curly in
fun and probably holds a lot more. I looked crazy.
Maybe I'll have to post that picture one day so
that y'all can see just how crazy my hair gets.

(19:28):
But anyway, I've only used this little hair scrunchy thing once.
But once Mary can use it because she has way
more hair than I do, and see if it really works,
then we'll tell y'all what the scrunchy is in case
you want to bite one. Because it was a lot
easier to use than putting a towel all the way
over your head. And it looked cuter too. You just
put it like in a little bun and end absorbed
all the water. Yeah, it might be a good gift

(19:50):
for you to get people. Oh which, speaking of gifts
and Mother's Day, I told people on Tuesday's Q and
A episode that deadline for Mother's Day gift shopping with
the shot forward was going to be Friday, May one tomorrow.
Is that still the case. Yes, So it's hard, Like
normally we would probably say the next Monday. We're just

(20:12):
having which I feel like not. It's not just us.
We're experiencing a lot of delays with like postal service.
So we were saying Friday just to give it a
little bit of a buffer. I mean, we hope to
get it to you as early as possible, but we're
shipping like consistently on time. It's more just we can't
have as much reliability, I guess with the shipping services,
which is totally understandable. I even I saw an article
on TMZ that said bad news for procrastinators. The woman

(20:36):
in your life may be disappointed Mother's Day. And they
were talking about how the coronavirus has been a huge
DNT in supplying demand for flowers, so suppliers they had
no idea how much to produce, which meant that people
wait too long, there's not going to be any flowers.
So suppliers were telling people to place their orders early,

(20:56):
and I was like, Okay, well, I mean that's fine,
but I feel like flowers. Flowers die, Mary and I
as a really good Mother's Day gift ideas that the
last I thought a thing that said attention dads, like
your kids will not be bringing home homemade gifts for
Mother's Day from school, to make sure you're thinking ahead,

(21:17):
Like normally your kids bring home some cute little thing
that they made in class, Like that's not happening this
year unless he's making it with them. I guess that
your kids's table. So yeah, so there's that flowers aren't
gonna last forever. I mean, it's fine if you want
to do that, but if you're a procrastinator, you may
have already missed out on placing in order for flowers.
And then all of our gifts, which will give you

(21:37):
a few gift ideas right now, some suggestions of our favorites,
but they're gifts that lasts for ever, and it's a
gift that keeps on giving. And this Mother's Day, we're
continuing our support again this year with Project Meta Shares
maternity Centers, so we're supporting new moms and babies in Haiti,
and we have a few suggestions. A lot of you

(21:57):
may have heard us talk about different things that we have,
but maybe you aren't aware that we released a cool
mom tied I t which is brand new ish and
it's been super popular already. So even when I think
people already kind of know about it, I'm saying it
here will post about it and people will say, oh
my gosh, I had no idea that you came up
with a ted Eye t shirt. I'm like, okay, So

(22:19):
if you're listening to this podcast, you maybe know about
the Four Things Gratitude Journal. Hopefully, Yeah, yeah, hopefully, because
we try to talk about gratitude a lot here on
the podcast, which I think would be a great gift
for moms. And it's super cute, it's ted ie. It
has really inspiring, encouraging quotes inside and fun stickers, and

(22:39):
Mary and I designed it ourselves, so yes, we're totally biased,
but but I love it. And then Mary tell people
about the Tammy Taylor tote because I feel like that's
an option that might get overlooked that people would really
really like. Oh yeah, So we have a few pre
made totes that are like in stock and ready to shift,
some black and white options and also some ink option.

(23:00):
So this one is one of our black ones and
it's one of my favorite ones. We call it the
Tammy Taylor Tote. So if you're a Friday Night Lights
fan or as clear eye as full Hearts, can't Lose
Texas Forever and whatever I carry that, I always get
people to ask me about it. So I think that
that would be a great kiss. Yeah. And also if
y'all are looking for any show to binge during quarantine,
oh my god, yes, Friday Night Lights. Or maybe you

(23:24):
want to start over and watch it again. That is
such a good one. I didn't watch it real time.
I probably started watching it after it already ended and
binged it in two thousand and fifteen or sixteen or something,
and it was amazing. I think I did it while
my husband was on a deployment and then he had
never seen it. So last year or so maybe the

(23:45):
year before, I got to binge it again with him,
and it was amazing. It was so good. So yeah,
that's definitely a four Things tote that's pre made. That's
a good option that maybe y'all didn't know we had.
And then also we have some pink totes that are
pre made, and I'll just talk about the daily Mantra
one which last year we actually called it mom Goals
because we came up with it four Mother's Day but

(24:07):
then decided to keep it year round and we realized
while these are goals for moms, they should be everybody's
daily mantra. But they say love hard, have grace, laugh often,
get sleep, and it's words to live by. Like, I
think we all could use a lot of love. We
all need grace, especially right now even with the postal service. Um,

(24:30):
we need to laugh a lot and then sleep super
important to stay shout out. Are you wearing your star necklaces? Oh? Yeah,
we're both wearing our star necklifces right now, which is
another awesome mother's day. If I feel like anybody would
be super happy to get this, and this is what
we get whenever we're wearing this with anything, I feel
like we get the most questions about where do you
get your necklace? And so yeah, it's cute gold and

(24:51):
it's adjustable so you can make it more of like
a choker or a long, longer neckliff. And it has
three gold stars and they're actually handmade by women in
Nashville and then but they still benefit in Haiti. But
this necklace has some global and global impact, which are
chats are also made here in the US. Yeah, on

(25:11):
the East coast so in their custom made. Every part
of the toads are custom made. Yeah, we developed like
the whole thing, so start to finish. And then I
was wearing I posted this video or the Bobby Bones
Show posted a video everyone for the show, from the show,
just talking about how we're still working, We're here for
people through this crazy time. Listen to the show, blah

(25:32):
blah blah. And I didn't know what we were filming
the video for for sure, for sure, or where it
was going to be used. And I was like, Okay,
this just went out everywhere. And I was wearing a
cool grandma pink sweatshirt which we have for grandma's But
I think now we might be sold out or maybe
have a couple left. So if you do have a
grandma you want to shop for, that could maybe be

(25:55):
an option. But I don't know. We've been selling a
lot of those. But just to clarify here, I'm not
a them all. I know. We got a lot of questions. Uh.
I think some people were confused as if I had
some older child they didn't know about that, maybe had
a baby or something. It's funny that sweatchair has been
popular with like high school and college because they were
like ironically, like it's kitchy, Like I don't know, kids

(26:17):
these days basically think it funny to wear a cool
grandma or it's like we like to go to bed
early and do grandma like things. Well, then the shirt
is totally fitting for me because I'm basically cool like
a college student, and I do go to bed early
and like to eat dinner early, like blue Light Special.
So that is why I was wearing it, obviously. But

(26:38):
I'm not a grandma. But my husband's mom we gave
her one and she's a legit grandma and she looks
so cute in it. And then we gave my father
in law cool Grandpa and my dad Grandpa, so we
had those as options too. But I know we're talking
Mother's Day, but we have way more than what we

(26:59):
just listed here. So you can just go to radio
ama dot com, click on the Mother's Day graphic and
it'll take you to everything that we mentioned and more
because again, we have other tote options. We have more
cool mom options. We have born your hats. Maybe you
want to get your mom a hat with the year
that you are born because that's clearly her favorite year.
And I mean again, there's a lot of cute gifts,

(27:20):
but I think the main thing is is that your
mom will love that her gift is giving back to
new moms and babies in Haiti. So yeah, and I'll
come with a cute little card that explains that. So
even if you send it to her directly, she'll get
that and see that it'll just seem more special. Yeah,
And then you can make a FaceTime appointment or a
zoom appointment with her or something, and y'all can have
Mother's Day over video or your phone and she can

(27:44):
open her gift from you and your family and it'll
still feel special. And then you can tell her more
about it if you want to, but she will get
a card that explains it. So yeah, Okay, Well, hopefully
that helps with your Mother's Day shopping. And then Mary
and I I guess we'll post pictures soon of our
pink hair. Oh yeah, I know. I'm really excited because

(28:04):
we're gonna be doing that too. And if y'all end
up dyeing your hair pink as well, let us post
pictures and tag us mary Is. She runs two Instagram accounts,
her personal one which is at m E r I
Underscore and then she also runs the shot forward, which
is at the shot forward boom, and then Amy's at

(28:26):
right doing oh thank you for the shoutout. Would you
want to go? She posted the thing yesterday asking who
for suggestions of who to have on the podcast. You
guys should go to look at I don't know when
you're listening to this, but go a couple of posts
back and say who you would want to hear on
the podcast. I don't know if you've already talked about that.
Oh I haven't. But that's a good idea. Well it's
actually Mary's idea for me to make one of those
little graphics. So very always has really good ideas. And

(28:50):
sometimes I feel like your heads thinks you don't want
to be bugging me with your ideas. But Mary is
such a creative. She's the ideas person. In fact, when
you left Mark Jacobs and went to work for your dad,
add what was your job title again? Development? See, because
your ideas person. I was just letting people know. I mean,
her brain works differently than mine or maybe even some

(29:14):
of you. So anyway, I always appreciate the help. So
it was her ideas for me to make that graphic
and put it up. She's like, you'll probably get a
really a lot of really good ideas, and then you'll
have a reason when you reach out to people if
they were requested, you can say, hey, my people really
want to hear from you, and they'll be more likely
to maybe come on your podcast. And so I really
want Robin Roberts come on. I have for a long
Everyone go comment who you want, and then also tag

(29:36):
Robin Roberts. Yes, like, comment who you genuinely want, and
then yeah, do Robin too. And then if you see
me on their commenting Robin Roberts, laugh to yourself because
that's me trying to get Robin to notice me. I've
d m her a couple of times, but she hasn't
seen it. We wanted to know if she wanted to
do a healthcare hero giveaway because we have the four

(29:57):
Things shirts and four Things to that say scrubs on caffeine,
a wash, hands, repeat for health care heroes, and we
have a whole sponsorship page where you can sponsor a
tote or a t for a health care hero, or
you can just purchase one and give it to a
health care here you know, or if you're a health
care here yourself. You can use the code hero and
get one in safe tem per cent. But we've been

(30:18):
doing giveaways too with different people on Instagram, and so
I thought, oh, Robin would be such a good person.
So I've been d m ng her. She doesn't ever
see it, so then I delete it and resent this. Hey,
you never know. You gotta do what you gotta do. Also,
something i'll have on my Instagram today because it's Throwback Thursday,

(30:40):
is I put up the Hunger Games trailer. Oh did
you already post this? Okay? Yeah, so that'll also be
on my Instagram if you were a couple of weeks ago,
I posted my old school silent film video called Bacon
and I think it took people back in time. And

(31:01):
then I started getting some messages like, hey, where's the
Hunger Games trailer? And I said, okay, so Eddie actually
just from the Bobby Bones Show just finally sent it
to me this week. So now I have it and
it's up and it'll take you down memory lane. But yeah,
one time I was well because I was so obsessed
with the book. When the movie came out, I had

(31:23):
the whole Bobby Bones Show and my whole family and
interns and neighbors all get together and re enact scene
by scene, line by line the entire trailer. Pretty amazing.
This is before I had children. I mean, how good
was Hungry Games? So it was so good. Actually, if
you've never read the trilogy, which is it, it's three right,

(31:47):
Well they made it into four movies, but the book
is the book is three, so the books are better,
and there's three of them. So if you're looking for
something to read during this, just go ahead and do
yourself a favor and order all three books or download
all three books and treat yourself to that because it's
so good. Okay, well, thank you Mary for coming on
as always. I'm sure that your name is somewhere in

(32:08):
the mix of people on the who do we want
to hear on the podcast? I'm sure you're on there,
I know, but I'm sure some people still tag you
like more of Mary. Our friend Nada. She wanted me
to have stuff Sira on, which is my daughter, and
I thought, okay, yeah, that is a good idea. I'll
have to see if she's up for it and see
if there's a topic we could discuss together as mom
and daughter that would be good. So I think I'll

(32:30):
do my daughter and then Mary and like my sister,
she's on today's episode two. So eventually I'll get to
Robin Roberts. You know, I'll just get my family and
friends first and then we'll get there. But um, I
hope everyone has There's still a little bit more of
this podcast left, but I guess I'll just say bye
to Mary here I can say bye to everyone. Okay,

(33:03):
So super excited to have Lisa on with me at
the Well Necessities, who was also my sidekick on our
four part series that lived inside this podcast on Saturday's
called Outweigh for the month of April, where we talked
about the gray area of disordered eating and our goal
was to break the stigma and expose this and start

(33:23):
talking about it and have people share their stories and experts.
Come on and Lisa, we did it. All four episodes
are officially out. Hello everyone again. I think that, I mean,
you really did it. You had a vision and I
feel like from the feedback I've gotten from listeners, we
did accomplish our goal. Well I could not have done

(33:44):
it without you. You're sweet to say that, And yeah,
I did have some weird vision. But the first person
I called to help me with the vision was you.
And I've told you every time that I wouldn't have
been able to do it without having you who I
can that are to be the expert by my side
and helping guide me through it because I'm still working
through a lot of this. It's all still very new

(34:06):
to me. It's a new way of thinking. I'm having
to unlearn so much. And I feel as though a
lot of people that listen to the series, whether you
listen to one episode or two or three, are all four,
which our hope is that if you haven't listened all four,
that you will, but you maybe concluded the series and
you think to yourself, Okay, well now what what what

(34:29):
do I do with this information? And what what are
the next steps? So I'm want to Lisa to come
on and recap kind of a little bit of what
we did, but maybe just it's hard to say because
every person's journey is so different. So there's no way
I can have Lisa on and say to you, as
in a blanket statement, well here's what you should do next,
because every single person's journey is different. But we can

(34:51):
do a generalization, maybe even come up with a few scenarios,
but really, what we would love to have from y'all
is real feedback from you and real questions from you.
And I think what I'll do too is have Lisa
come on for a Tuesday episode, so a fifth Thing
the Q and a episode. So send your questions in

(35:12):
to four Things with Amy Brown at gmail dot com
if you've finished the series and you've got questions, Sindleman
and I think before we get into Lisa, some of
your thoughts on what is next for some people. I
want to read a post that uh someone put on Instagram.
Her name is Hannah. She put it up in her
stories and we so appreciated every single person that took

(35:33):
a screenshot while they were listening and tagged us and
shared about it and encouraged others to go listen and
put swipe ups if they could. And I mean that
kind of thing means the world because it's just helping
spread this important topic. Obviously, Lisa and I think it's important,
or we wouldn't have put all this work into it. Um.
But here's what Hannah put on a screenshot of the

(35:53):
Little Podcast Picture where she was listening to it. She said,
if you have done a kleanse dieted, counted calories done, keto,
exercise to eat, counted macros, stepped on a scale, obsessed
with kale and green smoothies, pinched your stomach and feeds
someone else's body. You need this podcast. It will change

(36:15):
your life. Okay, maybe not, but maybe it will. And
when I saw that, I was like, Okay, wow, I
mean that's a changing someone's life. That seems like such
a big, very bold statement. So then I reposted hers
and you know, wanted to share with people what she
put because I thought, Okay, wow, she hit a lot
of the people there that we want to meet on this,

(36:35):
which is, you know, have you cleansed, have you diet it,
counting calories? And what I wrote was, well, simply listening
to this won't change your life, but our hope is
that it starts a new dialogue for some and releases
shame and helps people know they're not alone, and then eventually,
with a lot of work beyond just this podcast, lives
are changed. So, Lisa, what are our next steps now

(36:57):
that we've started this conversation? For a lot of people,
some of the information that they heard in this series
was the first time they were ever hearing people talk
this way, So can you recap, like in your words,
what you thought this type of dialogue, Like what kind
of a conversation is this that we're having with people? Now? Well,
I think we covered a ton of information, and that again,

(37:19):
go shout out to you. I didn't even think this
was possible. But you know, in each episode, we had
one to two experts, we had personal stories, we had
our own back and forth, and you know, the feedback
I heard was every episode provided unique insight about a topic, um,
whether it was about exercise addiction or feeling shameful about

(37:42):
their weight when they go to the doctor. I mean,
we we covered a ton. So I think that each
layer kind of allowed people to feel a little bit
more seen and validated and not crazy or in their
head about something that they might ruminate with. And I
feel like we all kind of locked away with this
with a better understanding that we're not broken. I feel

(38:07):
like we go around our day to day live kind
of thinking about that there's something deeply wrong with us,
and we're afraid to let the world see that, and
so we kind of do all these things and become
these people, but we live with this hidden fear of, well,
what if people knew who I really was? What if
people knew that in my head, I'm you know, counting
calories or all day, or I can't function until I

(38:29):
get to the gym, or I throw up my food.
And what we kind of strive to do is to
let you know is that whatever behavior thoughts you are
having or doing, it doesn't make you broken. It makes
you human, and it's time to let that piece of
you into the world, to show it to somebody else,

(38:51):
to start to heal, and to also realize that all
of us are carrying this weight in some way. That
what didn't exactly answer your question, but I did just
want to kind of bring that out that you know,
we all have this deep fear of thinking that there's
something wrong with us, and we do all these things
to kind of field ourselves from that being exposed to

(39:11):
the world, you know what I mean? Yeah, No, I mean,
And I think that was a good recap of what
was covered for sure. And then I see you in
my mind as a trailblazer with this, and I know
that there's other people out there doing it. You just
happened to be who I came across. I'm sure you
have other people that you look up to, but a
lot of stuff is just you felt it within you
and you're putting it out there, and you've had to

(39:33):
be bold and one of the first in your field
to kind of challenge some of the stuff. So the
question was, like, what is this dialogue or we I know,
I I shared a post that you put up last
week and four things I read your Instagram posts that
anti diet is an anti nutrition or anti wellness. So
like our series was called out way because and you

(39:55):
put it perfectly that a life without disordered eating outweighs everything.
But this type of conversation around all of the stuff,
the cleansing, the dieting, the counting calories, the keto, the
I mean, and we try not to point out very
specific diets, but I'm just thinking back to the other
girl's posts that she put up and we've all kind
of done it all, the binging, the purging, the over exercising,

(40:19):
the not weighing yourself. What is this conversation? Is it?
Are we anti? What are we like? What? I feel
like our club needs an I mean, I could only
speak for like what I know. I am so and
I think that you will agree But the first thing
that kind of happens when you un learn things is
you get angry. You're angry at what you were taught

(40:41):
and the way that you you know, were brought up,
or you might even be angry at yourself or angry
at diet culture. And while those are all really helpful
motivators who to tangle yourself from a web of lies
that was holding you back, Ultimately, I think you and
I are positive people, and so staying in the anti
phase for too long, in my opinion, can be dangerous

(41:04):
without sort of finding the positive beflow what feels good,
what's next. So we hope that we ruffled some feathers
a little bit just to get you thinking, to get
you noticing and questioning everything you hear and everything you
say to yourself. But ultimately, and this might be a
year from now, this might be two years from now.
What I'm after, Amy, what I think you're after, is

(41:26):
helping people find inner peace, which is a lot more
of a positive, comfortable emotion than anger. Does that make sense? Yeah? Yeah,
So there are certain words. I was thinking about this
the other day, and I'm gonna have to put it
into words somehow. Be in the next few days. But like,
there are certain words that I'm just so kind of over,

(41:49):
Like if I hear the word unprecedented one more time
during this pandemic, I'm gonna lose it, because like we're
just kind of saying the same thing over and over again.
Even when I hear the word food free to at
this point, it's a little bit of an eye roll,
because yes, food freedom is what is what we're we're
going to get from doing all this work, But it's
kind of a side effect or a symptom of that

(42:11):
inner piece. And I feel like the inner piece is
something that I want every single person to experience, because
when you feel peaceful from within, when you feel empowered
to share that part of you that you think might
be broken or might you know, make you an outcast,
we connect with others more, we connect with ourselves, and
I truly believe that that is where happiness comes from. Again,

(42:36):
happiness doesn't mean that you know everything's always good, but
it means that we're functioning from a peaceful place and
we feel really connected and understand why we do the thing.
So goes back to your first question, which is, like,
what are the next steps for each person you brought
up a good point. The next step is going to
be different for every listener. I've been so honored to

(42:58):
hear from so many of you, from mal A DM
and what I know is you're all in different life
phases as well as processes with your relationship to food.
So I think that the best thing that we can
do is to just notice what's going on around you
and question everything. So question everything. I say, question everything.

(43:20):
Amy says, question everything. We hear everything we read instead
of taking it at faith value. And I also want
to just empower everybody to trust their gut instincts. I
think that's something that's really been robbed of us with
Keto and again just naming the ones that you named
at the girl named but Keto, Juice, Climses, all that stuff,
all that part, all those things that we did because

(43:42):
we were told we can't trust ourselves. I want to
return back to the gut instincts, So you knowing what's
good for you or what's right for you, and leaning
into that without fear because you read that this is
going to solve your problems. Right. I was so guilty
of being the person okay, well this person said, we're
supposed to eat this food and it's a super food,

(44:04):
so I must consume it when really that superfood might
be great for somebody else, and somebody else might really
enjoy it, and they absolutely should keep it in their
diet if that's the case. But I didn't, but I
was still consuming it all the time. And even Mary
actually today just posted on her Instagram. I don't know
if you saw it, but it made me laugh. She

(44:25):
wrote that she's been putting almond butter in her smoothies
and she has not been enjoying smoothies, so she just
took it out and she's like, I like smoothies again.
So even if you're not somebody that like is affected
by diet culture maybe in an outward way, like you know,
Mary has a very healthy relationship to food, these ideas
that we should be doing ABC and D subtly sink

(44:46):
in and we lose our ability to kind of get
to know ourselves. So I just want everybody to question
everything that they here think. Do feel free to experiment.
This doesn't mean that you should never have a super
food again, or try something that made is working for
somebody else that you might resonate with their symptoms of
something but be aware of the feedback and the signal

(45:07):
that your body is giving you right. And I think
when you talk about you mentioned inner peace, which I'll
go back to, like, I still don't know what we're
calling this. We're not like a food freedom group or
a we don't want to be anti diet group. But
when you say inner peace, like that might be like

(45:29):
what what? What is our what is our name? We're
like club inner Peace, because ultimately, when you have peace
with something that had such a grip on you for
so long, whatever the disordered part was, whether it was
the binging, the purging, the dieting constantly, the way obsessing

(45:49):
over your body all the time. Like, I know that
I'm still not there. Most days I am, I would
say more days than not, I'm finding more of the peace,
but I still struggle. And I'm thankful that I have
a relationship with Lisa and I can even send her
a text, and that I have a therapist that totally
understands disordered eating. And I had a therapy session with her,

(46:13):
and one of the things that came up was my
daughter was having a birthday party this last weekend. She
was turning thirteen. I mean it wasn't the party that
we thought it would be for thirteen because we couldn't
leave our house and she couldn't have any friends over.
But we still try to make it special and I said,
whatever you want, we're getting, like for dinner, it's your day.

(46:35):
She planned every meal from breakfast to dinner and she
ate everything on her you are special today red plate,
which is a plate my whole my family uses. Do
you know the red plate that says you are special today? Oh,
I need to get you this one. You can buy them,
but I highly recommend all families getting this plate and

(46:55):
when it's a person special day, like that's the plate
they eat off of. My mom. Didn't my sister to it,
We do it. I'm really trying to now make sure
that I give Stashira so much both my kids the
choices with food. I try not to label foods is
good and bad. And trust me, I used to two
years ago when they first arrived here. I would say, no,

(47:18):
you can't have that today, it's bad for you, or
no you can't have that it's not healthy. But what
I could have been doing, and luckily they didn't speak
much English at the time, so I have time to
make up for a lot of it is I could
have been creating already bad habits or unhealthy habits for
her mentally and physically by separating foods is good and

(47:41):
bad and not giving her, you know, the choice of
wanting to eat that, and then teaching her about nutrition
and things that are good for her fueling her body,
not necessarily categorizing, you know, foods is good and bad.
And now I'm going off on a whole another tangent,
but it just I have an appreciation for Lisa and

(48:01):
what I've learned from her, and even through this series
of not only do you have a responsibility to take
maybe what you learn from the podcast and start implementing
some of it and researching it and challenging everything. Like
Lisa was saying that you've been taught your whole life,
but we do have a responsibility for the next generation.
And I think what you just said, and I just

(48:22):
don't want to forget the point is like, you know,
the way you always kind of talk about it is
like you're looking for a finish line, and I'm saying you,
but I know when I talk to people, it's like
I'm not there yet. I'm not there yet. And just
to kind of again question that there's no race or
flag at the end. We do our best day by day,
and even if we feel like we're totally healed and

(48:43):
normal thoughts come up, situations arise that cause us to
go into, for lack of better word, old ways, our
loss of control can cause us to come back to
the same thoughts or behaviors. So I just urged everybody,
even if they are, to not see it as this
like law on road ahead, but rather just to think
about putting one foot in front of the other each

(49:05):
day and knowing that we're never fully perfect. Perfect isn't
the goal. We're just striving to always kind of maintain
that connection to ourselves and return to hey, Lisa, hey Amy,
what's going on right now? Seeing these behaviors and thoughts
as a flag to say, Okay, you're clearly uncomfortable with

(49:25):
something in your life or a situation. What is that
feeling and what do I need to do the best
care for ourselves. Yeah, I'm glad you stopped me to
to say that. I think that's very important, and yes,
a good reminder that we're not probably ever finished. I
know that I'm looking for that, but I I also

(49:45):
think it's important that you celebrate when you do find
yourself having progress towards whatever we're I guess, yeah, there's true,
there's not ever a finished line, but we're all working
towards something. For me, it's, you know, to use Lisa's
terms where she likes to say fork the noise, like
I want to get to where I'm just able to

(50:07):
fork the noise, like, guess, yes, we're going to have
noise that comes into our mind, but I want to
be able to just squash it and get rid of it.
And that's what back to Stashira's birthday, we need to
be concerned about our next generation because for me, I
know a lot of moms were listening to this podcast

(50:28):
that have young children, and yes, use this podcast to
dip your toe in the water for yourself and figure
out where you want to go with this, but also
how do you want to lead your children because there
is a change happening and we have so much work
to do, and hopefully our daughters and our sons that

(50:52):
are growing up and then their daughters and sons can
look back on this time frame and be like, Wow,
I'm glad that there's a bunch of people that's doing
some work to really change and shift the way we
think about our bodies and food and diet culture. So
Sashira wanted for her dinner time meal like the party part.

(51:13):
She wanted pizza and ice cream and like a cookie cake.
I mean, we kind of got it all. We had cookies, cupcakes,
a cookie cake, ice cream cake, and every kind of
pizza known to man. And it was just our family
and one of Stashia's friends stopped to buy for but
practice social distancing, but we just couldn't imagine her not

(51:35):
having any kind of contact, but we followed all social distancing,
had her over. You know. I definitely had way too
much food, but it was more about it just feeling
like a party to me, and that's something that normally
would have freaked me out. Lisa having every kind of pizza,
every kind of dessert, and I would have I did

(51:57):
have therapy that day, and I told the therapy is
that when I was ordering the pizza, I because I
did it. I ordered it ahead of time and had
it scheduled for pickup and delivery. But I thought about
should I get a gluten free pizza for myself? Because
I do tend to not eat gluten. But I've never
been tested as having gluten intolerance. So then I started

(52:22):
thinking that a lie that I believe, like it is
one night of having gluten going to do anything to me,
and my therapist to me, it was like, just eat
the pizza everybody else's eating, end of story. That's what
you're gonna do. You're going to because I mean, I
was saying that's what I want to do, but my

(52:42):
disordered self was also even considering getting ingredients to make
my own pizza to have at the party where I
really controlled everything about the pizza. And she quickly reminded me,
and not that I was really going to do it,
but I was just talking through what my old self
would have done, and that that thought popped into my head.
And she said, any time you spend trying to prep

(53:06):
your own pizza to have at this party with her
is taking away time with her and time from being
in the moment with her and your family to just
sit there and eat the pizza that she picked out
and that she wanted for her birthday. And that's what
we did. And I had the pizza and I had

(53:27):
the dessert, and it didn't lead to any binging. I
didn't have to feel like we had to throw it
all away at the end of the night because this
food can't stay in our house. We actually put it
all in baggies and tupperware and it's all in the fridge.
I put some stuff in the freezer that we can
have later if we want to. I didn't have to

(53:48):
destroy it all, and I didn't have to consume it all.
And we did enjoy our time as a family. And
she even noticed, she noticed that I was eating certain
things that I probably didn't eat at her birthday last year.
But and you know you mentioned the inner peace, Lisa,
and that's what I felt yesterday celebrating her was there

(54:13):
was such peace and my mind you were aligned. You
were living like an aligned life. And in the if
you did miss episodes of Outweigh and one of the
episodes where you talked about values, and that's what it
comes down to, whether you took the time to clarify
your values or not. I know you, Amy, and I
know that family connection being there first, the shia being

(54:34):
present for the entire day is a value of yours
that comes before maybe having gluten and not feeling fantastic
true or false. I don't know, but I know that
family is a core value of your and when he
puts the shira before yourself and your own discomfort, the
result was peacefulness. And that's why I say, like food

(54:55):
freedom is a symptom, is an outcome of the work,
but inner peace is why we're after. Because you had
the peace and what happened, you didn't need to destroy
the food because it was there. So it's a really
powerful story. I hope you realize and sort of sit
with what it felt like to really choose your higher
value consciously or not as to what it is. Yeah,

(55:15):
And I would encourage others that after you've listened to
the series, if you're having little moments where you notice
yourself making progress towards the direction that you know will
be good for you, that you'll celebrate those little moments.
And so you know, that's what I had to do
with my little moment with Stashira's birthday, because I don't

(55:38):
need to ignore that that's not something little, it's something big,
and I need to celebrate it so that way I
know like how it feels, and I would rather keep
feeling that then go back to feeling all the misery
and frustration and obsession. I mean, I could go on
and on with all the negative ways to describe how

(56:00):
you feel when you're shackled by a neating disorder or
disordered eating tendencies, and it's just no fun at all.
So all consuming, it's all consuming. Okay, well, Lisa, do
you have anything before we wrap? Like, yeah, the whole
quick thing just because it didn't exactly answer your question still,
and I evaded it for a reason. I think that

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the most important thing is you've all had a unique
journey to get to where you are right now, and
therefore your unique journey out of your mindset or what
comes next is going to be different per person. So
the most important thing that you can do is be
willing to learn, be willing to read. Parts are all
the books that we've recommended so far. I mean, I

(56:44):
know that Amy Brain over Binge was her AHA moment
and it was like, yes, this is what resonates with me.
And I've heard from so many people that that book
has been so helpful for somebody else. That book isn't
going to strike a chord. So whether it's a book
or working with a professional or doing a program or
a therapist whatever it is, just you know, be willing

(57:07):
to try different things and not give up if the
first person or the first program or the first book
isn't striking that chord that you need to be kind of.
You know that you need to feel is struck, to
feel validated and seen. So I have my courses force
always fundamental that ditch diets for good. But if looking

(57:28):
at me and my words don't resonate with you, there
are amazing practitioners out there that might be that are
fits for you. So just you know, continue to open
your eyes and soak up as much literature as you
can and discern that some things are going to fit
right for you and some won't. But don't give up

(57:48):
on the entire process just because one thing doesn't work.
And it is a helpful. Yeah, it is because I
think Lisa and I can't stress enough. Just listening to
the series is not enough. There's so much more out
there and so much work that needs to be done,
and so Lisa and I are excited because I'm pretty

(58:09):
sure we're going to do a second series, so we
don't have a time frame on that. But again that's
also to why we can't wait to hear more feedback
from everybody or get questions we we can know what
we need to include in the second round and what
kind of experts you would like to hear from, or

(58:30):
if any of you have your stories that you would
love to share and put out there and that we
could feature as part of making or helping others not
feel alone. So that's something exciting that I think it's
pretty official. We just don't know when we'll do it.
And then also Lisa and I are going to do

(58:52):
a live Instagram live at some point soon and we
will share the date with y'all, so that way you
can put it on your calenders and mark out the
time to sit there and be with us, and we'll
take questions on that and just go over some of
the stuff to again recap because there's so much information
and you know, you can't even just recap it all

(59:14):
here there. We can take your feedback and use some
of that in the live or get some more info
from some of our experts that we had on But
I think that alive would be a good way to
close out the series Part one. Then we'll look forward
to a second round it sometime soon. But Lisa, thank

(59:34):
you for coming on with us today, Cap and y'all
make sure to follow her if you're not already at
the well Necessities on Instagram and Lisa, I'll talk to
you soon, Okay, health care, he shout out time. This

(59:56):
is like one of my favorite things to do because
it's just so fun to Ridal's emails. And then when
I replied y'all saying they're gonna be featured, y'all get
super excited and that makes me happy. Uh. This email
is from Alison. Hey, Amy, my name is Allison, and
I have been wanting to write you for a long time.
I've been a fan of the Bobby Bones Show since
I was a student at Texas State in sam Marcus,

(01:00:16):
like sixteen years ago. Yeah that, She even questions if
that's right. And I've only been on the Bobby Bones
Show like fourteen years, but Bobby and lunch Boxs have
been doing it for sixteen seventeen years, so Allison, that
sounds about right. She goes on to say, I listen
to your podcast today and I wanted to tell you

(01:00:37):
about my best friend Rachel. We have been best friends
since we were kids. She her husband Jack, and I.
We all went to school together from first and second
grade through high school at a small school in Houston.
She has always been so beautiful and smart, so it
makes sense that she is now a doctor at a
hospital in Dallas, one of the hardest hit areas by
the coronavirus. Her husband is a firefighter in Houston, and

(01:01:00):
he commutes from Dallas to Houston for work. Rachel's mom
was diagnosed with cancer about a year ago and is
currently undergoing treatment in Houston. I sent her one of
the Cancer Four Things sweatshirts last year when she started chemo,
which side note this is me talking now the four
Things for the chemo one says chemo radiation, cancer suck

(01:01:20):
it and is a really cute pulliferred to wear to
cancer treatments. My dad would wear it to his and
he always got like high fives and smiles, which is
crazy now because there's not gonna be any more high
fives happening in hospitals these days. Okay, next or back
to her her words in the email. After her mom

(01:01:42):
was diagnosed with cancer, Rachel decided it was time for
them to move back to Houston to be closer to family.
This movie is supposed to be happening in June. So
with working like crazy and worrying about her mom and
everything else in life. They're now trying to sell their
house in Dallas and try to buy a house in Houston.
Oh well, all lot of things are crazy with coronavirus
and before she is supposed to start her new position

(01:02:02):
at a hospital in Houston. I know everything will work
out for them and that God is in control, but
it is a very stressful time for them right now.
I've had a few things in my car at the
Shop Forward website for a couple of days now, but
I've had a hard time pushing check out because I'm
not currently working right now, so I have been extra
careful with any extra spending. I was working at a

(01:02:23):
daycare at a church, but we haven't been able to
open due to all this mess. One of the items
in my car was a healthcare Hero four things tod
that I was going to send to Rachel. I just
wanted to do a little something nice for her during
this crazy time, to let her know I was thinking
about her and I love her. I know that she
would love it. I have lots of items that I
purchased over the years for myself as well as many

(01:02:44):
gifts for others. I'm a giver and love giving things
that means something and go towards a good cause. I
would love it if you would shout her out next
week so I can share that with her. Thank you
for everything. I always look forward to listening the podcast
at Brian's My Day. Please keep doing you. I feel
like I have so much more to say to you,
but I guess it mostly boils down to thank you,

(01:03:04):
love and lots of blessings. Alison. Okay, Alison, I just
love this email, and I love that, even though times
are hard for you, you're looking for a way to
bless your friend. And yes, we will be sending Rachel
a four Things healthcare hero tote. Don't you worry about that?

(01:03:26):
So I've already emailed you asking for the address, So
I'm gonna go check that email, make sure we get it,
and then get that in the mail. So very sweet
and thoughtful of you to be thinking of your friends. Guys,
this is what it's all about. Shouting out your people
and then we shout them out here and they get,
you know, the thanks that they deserve. So, Rachel, if
you happen to be listening to this, thank you, for everything,

(01:03:46):
and we'll keep your mom in our prayers. I know
that that is not easy, especially during this crazy time.
So you're a healthcare hero, Rachel. We appreciate you. Okay,
email shout out time. That's a wrap on today's episode.
If you're new to listening to the podcast, I take

(01:04:06):
emails from four Things with Amy Brown at gmail dot com,
and I shout them out at the end of every episode,
so you never know when yours might show up. Even
if you sent it to me two months ago. Sometimes
it just shows up. This one actually came to me recently.
It was on Monday, April. But again I've done it
before where it's been months and then somehow it makes

(01:04:30):
it into the shout out, so you really never know.
This email is from Shelby. Hey, Amy, I recently started
listening to your podcast, so naturally I started from the
beginning and I'm so late to the game, but I'm
glad my sister told me about it. I wanted to
reach out about a few things I relate to you
on so many levels. For starters, I've always been the
world's worst at prioritizing sleep, making my bed and doing

(01:04:51):
normal activities in bed like watching TV, doing work, scrolling
social media, etcetera. However, I love the tips you give,
and I'm currently on day two of making my bed
small goals, small victories, taking it one day at a time. Second,
I've always wanted to be a mom and maybe even adopt. However,
my husband worries that he will not be able to
love a child that is not biologically his. We have

(01:05:12):
not had a child yet or even begun to try,
but we're looking at it in the near future. He
feels his heart would change if we were unable to
have kids of our own. So I was wondering if
you and your husband always knew you wanted to adopt,
or if it only crossed your mind after you weren't
able to have kids of your own. You may have
answered this in a later episode that I haven't made

(01:05:35):
it too yet, but I was just curious. Okay, Shelby
shall Bey from Mississippi. That's how you signed your email.
Thank you so much for the note, and I think
our husbands maybe a little bit alike in this area.
I of course thought we would have kids. Adoption was
not on our radar. I just thought we would get

(01:05:55):
pregnant have babies. However, many we wanted, and it really
was gonna be a thing. And then when I started
to not get pregnant, that's when adoption was put on
my heart and I had to be patient for my
husband to get there, and he read the book Adopted
for Life. I've talked about it on the podcast a lot,
but I know you maybe haven't hit one of those

(01:06:16):
episodes yet. That is a great book. I don't know
your faith background. It is Christian based, but I that's
that's one where after reading the first chapter, my husband
was all in and said, Okay, I get it. We're
we're adopting. We need to do this because I do
want kids. I do want us to be a family,

(01:06:37):
and this isn't the road I thought we were going
to be going down, but this is what we need
to do. And his heart did change. So there's nothing
wrong with what your husband is feeling. I think that
that's very normal and sometimes it just takes people longer
to get there. So you can get that book for
him and maybe see where that gets you. Guys, but

(01:06:59):
thank you for listening, and tell your sister thank you
for uh telling you about my podcast. I appreciate y'all
spreading the word That means a lot also too, if
you're ever listening, you take a screenshot and you tag
me and share episodes with other people on social media
or on text messages with family and friends. That is
also much appreciated as well. Okay, I hope you'll have

(01:07:21):
a great day and we'll see you on Tuesday. I've
got another I guess Tuesday, Lisa. We'll be back on
I'm gonna do a Q and A episode with Lisa
without wig questions from my email because my inbox is
blowing up without way questions. So I'm gonna do my
Q and A on Tuesday with so y'all thanks Spitekay,

(01:07:52):
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