March 2, 2021 • 34 mins
This is Amy’s ‘5th Thing’ (a bonus episode). ‘4 Things With Amy Brown’ comes out every Thursday, but on Tuesdays Amy shares emails from you guys and answers questions y’all have sent in. On today’s episode Amy addresses some new FUN items in the work to benefit Haiti that you are going to LOVE, being called chubby as a teenager, doing a book club, pre-engagement counseling, and loving the body you’re in!
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Happy Tuesday. Welcome to the Fifth Thing, the bonus episode
of the four Things podcast where I answer your questions
and I got Chase with me today. It's been a
minute since you've been on the podcast, Chase, No, I
think it's been a while. Glad to be here. Yeah.
I did a coffee chat this weekend. Sometimes I've been
doing lives, and by sometimes I think, I mean this
was my third one, but I've done two on the
(00:25):
at Radio Amy account on Instagram and one this last
weekend on the at Shops spat account. And just I
make my coffee and I sit down and I think
I'll just do like twenty minutes on here, and then
an hour goes by and I'm like, oh, I can't
believe I'm still rambling, and surely nobody is still here
watching the whole thing. But at least if people get
(00:46):
bits and pieces. But one of the questions that was
sent in and the live chat was everything cool with Chase.
I haven't heard him on the podcast recently, and I'm like, oh, yeah,
Chase is still heavily involved. It's probably just more so
me and my schedule and not arranging it with him
to like have him on more not that you care,
but it is helpful, especially in the fifth thing, like
having someone to just bounce things off with. So it's
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not my voice for the entire time. But anyway, it
was funny that they commented that because we had already
scheduled to do this, so boom, here you are. I
worked out you had people asking about you. It was
one person, but I'm sure others were wondering as well,
So I'm just gonna go over. Sometimes Chase reads the
email if he's on. Sometimes I don't really know exactly
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what we always do. We had thought about doing a
rapid fire Q and A today with leftover questions from
a Q and A box that I put up on
Instagram stories the other day, but I realized that if
you don't save those questions, they disappear when the story expires,
so all the questions are gone, and if someone knows otherwise,
if there's a way, I can go back into archives.
I did go back into archives, but I couldn't see
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the questions. But if there is a way, you'll let
me know, because I'll go back through and grab a
lot of them and Chase and I'll do a rapid
fire with the questions because there was so many. It
was really cool. I've never done one of those q
and as on Instagram before. I actually like flipping through this,
so I love when people don't. Oh, I mean I
do too. You get random, useful, helpful information. It's crazy
weird things you can get on Instagram, or just updates
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on things that you were curious about. So I will
try to start implementing those into my Instagram life as
much as I can. But it took takes a lot
of time, because of course it probably doesn't have to
take as much time as I made it, but I
wanted to find a picture that corresponded with my answer.
I mean, I don't know why I make everything so difficult.
(02:35):
So Okay, today I'm just gonna read the emails. Chase
is not going to read them because I forgot to
send them to him. But then Chase and I will
correspond about the emails. So the Tuesday episodes always start
off with a quote, and today's is from Maya Angelo,
which Chase, I think you'll like this one. You may
not control all the events that happened to you, but
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you can decide not to be reduced by them. Meditate
on that one for a little bit because it's definitely good. Oh,
which reminds me of I'm fine, It's fine, everything is fine,
because you know, we're all not. Nobody's fine right now,
but yeah, we don't have to be reduced by whatever
it is that we're going through. Like we can come
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out of this stuff stronger. Right. It's gonna take some time,
but we are working on something Chase part of the
I'm fine line. That's probably unexpected. People wouldn't think that
this would be part of that I'm fine, but it's
going to be so good. I don't even know if
you know about it, but I'm just gonna drop this
tease right here that we have to shop a squat
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items coming out one in March that I'm so pumped about,
kind of in relation to my forty birthday. Yes, I'm
turning forty. What up? I can't wait. I'm actually excited
about it. I mean, I'm excited about turning forty, I
will be honest, I'm not excited about celebrating or having
a birthday party. All that stuff just seems weird, Like
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celebrating in this season of just is weird for me,
to be honest, So I don't I don't know that
I really want to. I mean, but I want to
acknowledge it, and I would love to be with friends
and thankful for friends and family that like want to
celebrate and are asking me what I want to do,
and I just feel stuck my responses. I don't really
want to do anything, but I do want to come
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out with this shopics while item because it is going
to be awesome, and then the other item that is
totally different but will still benefit Haiti. And again part
of that, I'm fine. Line. I don't have an update
on that. I need to get with Mary on the timeline,
but it's going to take a little bit longer. But
we have the bones of it all done. It's just
we gotta get it made and figured out. It's cool. Okay,
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those are my little teases. I know nothing about it,
so now I'm super intrigued, Like, what are we going
to see in March? Yeah, you're on the edge of
your seat right now, I can tell. And also, happy
Gratitude Challenge a month. It's March second when you're listening
to this, and our Gratitude Challenge has started, So no
worries if you didn't start yesterday. Our rules are pretty loose.
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You just join us when you can do the best
you can at journaling and being intentional about four things
every day they're thankful for. Whether you do it in
our squaw for Things Gratitude journal or your own journal,
we just want you to join us in practicing gratitude.
And if you do on our journal, like it's not
too late. That's still available radio amy dot com. If
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you don't, you don't, But have you? Did you start chase?
Are you doing it with us? Yeah? I have my
old journal. I need to get a new one, but
I'm doing it on my notes on my iPhone. Oh
so you can type it in? Yeah, I will say
I was I encouraged that last time, like wherever you
want to do it. But I've heard from so many
people and read all these articles about how pinned to
paper is so powerful. I'm sure fingertips to keyboard might
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be the same. Ish, but something about just sitting there
writing it is therapeutic. I don't know if the new
one is quite my style as a guy. Oh, but
the Tide I was, yes, I mean, I'm not knocking.
I'm just saying for a guy, you know, it's yeah,
I know the corals and the pinks might be a
bit of a stretch. All right, let's get into email
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number one, which is from Heather Hey Amy, I listened
to the latest podcast with Caitlin as well as the
fifth thing from that week. I resonated with your stories
on eating disorders, which side note, this is me talking
last week. We did focus on that a lot because
it was need a week, National Eating Disorder Awareness Week,
which reminds me that March eight is National Empowered Women's Day,
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so we do have an Empowered Women, Empower Women pull
over shirt v neck stuff for kids. I just want
to let y'all know that we have it, because the
Shot Forward has an Empowered Women's Fund, which goes towards
supporting organizations that work with women and young girls and
lifting them up and helping them rise to be the
best that they can be. And I forget sometimes that
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we have that in Stashira, my daughter, when she was twelve,
she did the artwork for it. So you still have time.
I would say, if you're listening to this and you
want to get something, and maybe get it for your
daughter or your best friend, or your coworker or yourself,
like that might be a cool gift that gives back
to empowering women, but you get to represent empowering women.
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When I interviewed Robin Roberts for the podcast, I wore
it and she noticed it right away and she's like,
I love your pullover. That's so cool, and so I
loved that. I got to brag to Robin that my
daughter did the artwork. And then also we mailed Robin one.
I still haven't seen her wear it online yet, but
I mean, I'm sure she wears it all the time.
Amber her Sweet Amber, wore a Pimp and Joy. We
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mailed a whole package. We kind of went a little
overboard because we were like, we've got Robin's address, let's
send her everything. Probably embarrassingly sent too much, but we
were so excited and we threw in some Pimp and
Joy and all kinds of things. And Robin had posted
on her Instagram like a snow day with Sweet Amber,
and underneath her jacket you could see the Navy Pimp
and Joy collegiate popping through. And I was so pumped.
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Which also see, this is what happens. I'm trying to
read an email, but then I think of all these
different thoughts and speaking of Pimp and Joy, we've raised
over fifty dollars with our new line that dropped on Friday.
We put out sweatpants which are super cute. They've got
hashtag Pimp and Joy down the leg I love them.
They're soft, they're cozy, you won't ever want to take
them off. And we put out a tied ie pull over,
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which unfortunately is sold out. We can't get more, but
we did order enough sweatpants because we knew they were
going to be popular, and then we added a four
screen Pimp and Joy Collegiate. Anyway, I just wanted to
say thank you. Y'all are amazing. We appreciate the support
so much. Pimp and joys like spread Joy, Choose Joy,
be Joy, all the Joy, and y'all are going to
make such a difference with COVID relief because you shopped
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Pimp and Joy the last few days. So what up? Okay,
let's seriously get back into this email. Okay, Chase Good.
I feel like you should also say something too, because
here I am like I want Jason, I don't want
it to just be me, and then here I am
rambling over and over. I just feel like I have
so much in my head that I want to talk about.
I just will say real quickly, going back to the
Empowered Women hoodie. I don't think I even told you this,
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but two weeks ago I was in the d C
Airport and I saw a girl on the moving sidewalk
wearing her Empowered Women hoodie. I thought it was awesome.
Did you say, like, what up? I love your pull over?
I gave him like a pump going by. I do
that too. I tracked people down in airport's malls anywhere.
If I see them in anything Pimp and Joy or
four Things, a squaw whatever, I am the obnoxious person.
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I saw a guy at the mall a couple of
weeks ago with a born Your hat on, and I
walked by, and I just say, I love your hat.
And I'm sure that was a gift from somebody or
his wife or maybe his sister or something for his birthday.
And he probably has no idea who I am or
anything that was obvious, because I feel like if they
did know, they'd be like, oh, hey, yeah, cool, I
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love you. Don't love what you guys do? This? Haitie?
What up? Born here? But he didn't. He kind of
just looked at me awkwardly. So yeah, that's always fun.
And then there's always the time that I ran into
that guy with a pimp and joy hat in Austin
and I was so distracted trying to get his attention
that I ran into a tree. You don't know about that. Yes,
it was years like years ago, Mary and I were
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walking to do something because we were there for i
Heeart Country Festival, and someone walked by in the customized red,
white and blue pimp and joy hats that we did
one year that are so cool, which I think we
maybe we'll have those for this year for Fourth of
July were I think Mary's working on it. But yeah,
walking down the street downtown Austin and boom, I ran
right into a tree. When we talked about it on
the Bobby Bones Show, like Bobby and lunch Box, like,
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we have got to get with downtown Austin and try
to get that footage. Surely there was a camera somewhere
and we tried, but not very hard, and we never
got the footage. But so back to what Heather was saying.
She said, when I was younger, like fourteen or fifteen,
a guy that I liked called me chubby I have
struggled with eating ever since. I never said I had
an eating disorder. I just always said that I had
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an unhealthy relationship with food. I still struggle to stop
treating workouts as punishment. I struggle with that hard. I
am learning to be happy with my body, loving who
God intended me to be. I have a notebook that
I write and often notes quotes, song lyrics, journal entries,
and sometimes just doodles. This has been great for my
mental health. I want to say that I appreciate you
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and Caitlin sharing your struggles with the world. One time,
you mentioned your closet was your space, that you would
just shut yourself in your closet and cry, scream, or
whatever you need it at the moment. I think that
this is right after your children came home. Anyway, you
said that, and now I shut myself in my closet
when I need a moment. I cry in there, I scream,
I pray, I rally myself. It's my safe space. I
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know that you're going through some things in life right now.
I just hope you know that you're contributing to the
lives of people. So many people are praying for you
and rooting for you. So Heather, thank you for rooting
for me. And I'm sure you're a champion for others
in your life, and I'm rooting for you and all
of you that are listening. Again, I think everybody's going
through some rough stuff. So yeah, all the hugs and ears,
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and I just appreciate you sending that note because I
think it's a perfect reminder why we don't comment on
people's bodies. And shame on that boyfriend forever calling you chubby.
I mean, really, when I talk about now recently being
a champion of not commenting on people's bodies, it's more
so about compliments that are actually kind of positive by
society standards, but can be harmful, like oh, you look
so skinny, What are you doing if you lost weight again?
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Could be harmful, But gosh, you would assume that someone
would know that saying chubby would be harmful. And I'm
going to give him a pass because he was in
high school. But that's just a reminder to us parents
to like have conversations with our kids, like make sure
that they know what's appropriate to say to someone, Like
let's have these conversations. Let's start young, so that when
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they do get to high school, they're like, aware, Oh, yeah,
I probably shouldn't call a girl chubby. What Chase any
thoughts on this as a young man who was also
in high school. Yeah, I mean, I think I love
the episode with you and Caitlin and everything you've been
doing on that way that I've listened to has made
me more aware of how I compliment and how I
talk about things. And I think as young men, there
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are things that I think by society standards, we were
kind of preconditioned that we thought were acceptable that as
you grow into being an adult man, especially now, you're like,
oh my gosh, well yeah, but I mean calling a
girl chubby was never never, but just in general, like
the way we speak to one another and how we
compliment well, and I would say, maybe it's not even
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the chubby comment, it's something else, but how something that
we were told as a child when we're fourteen literally
impacts us to this day still as an adult, and
just how you know, words matter, And also too, I
love that, you know, Heather offers encouragement that she's putting
in the work, to journal, to to pray, to rally herself,
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to find her safe space wherever that is maybe it's
your closet, maybe it's your car, maybe it's under your bed,
Like I don't know where you have to go to
have your little safe haven where you can just let
it all out. But make sure you're doing that for
your self. Like having your safe space is really important.
I think. I asked people where their spaces were. It
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was last fall, and a lot of people said their garage,
their car, their closet, their bathroom, whatever. But some pro
tips that I got from asking that question with so
many people said they hide snacks. They hide snacks away
and their safe space, And I just thought that was
such a genius idea because you never know how long
you're going to be in there, and then that way
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you can just you don't have to come out like
you've got your drinks, your drink stash. You're like a
diet coke. I don't mean like alcohol, but maybe maybe
it is a little bit if you're in a healthy
place with that. I've also do alcohols, another thing that
I've learned to be like super sensitive about, you know,
because again, you never know what someone else is going through,
and we casually just throw out alcohol like oh yeah,
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just grab a glass of wine. Do this drawn you know,
forget about it, relax, unwind well for someone hearing that
that maybe has an unhealthy relationship with alcohol, that might
not be good. So just learning as I go and
trying to share things with y'all as that comes up.
But man, Heather, I'm sorry that that boy told you
that at fourteen or fifteen. Oh, that reminds me. I
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wanted to read this Instagram d M that I got
from Tiffany I think was her name, and Tiffany Morris, Yes,
shout out. She sent me a d M from her
daily devotional for February from Jesus calling, And I'm going
to read that to you all right now, because this
is just encouragement for you knowing your worth and your
worth does not come from some fifteen year old boy
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that called you chubby or insert whatever the statement is here.
What she sent me was stop judging and evaluating yourself,
for this is not your role. Above all, Stop comparing
yourself with other people. This produces feelings of pride inferiority,
sometimes a mixture of both. I lead each of my
children along a path that is uniquely tailor made for
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him or her. Comparing is not only wrong. It is
also meaningless. So that's just a reminder too, because I
feel like if somebody says something about you, then you,
honestly you could start looking towards others, and then you
do all this comparing. You're like, well, I guess compared
to that person, I am this. Stop let's not do that, right, Chase,
Stop comparing yourself to me? Just kidding, Okay. Email number
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two is from Emily. Hey girl, I'll hope you're doing well.
I love the book recommendations on the fifth thing. I'm
also a bookworm and love hearing what everyone else is
reading or watching. Have you ever considered doing a book
club here or on The Bobby Bones Show or The
Shop Forward? Would love to see it. Have a great day, Emily,
Mary and I have talked about maybe Espua having some
sort of book club. I do think it would be
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good if she reads like really fast. She could probably
do something on The Shop Forward. But I think for
both of us it's like time, like we both do
get to read, but then to have to be committed
to reading something because now we're in a club might
be hard. I will say I'm currently reading Body Keeps
the Score, which is nonfiction I have the physical copy
that I'm going through and highlighting things, and then I
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have the audible download because it's a lot of information.
But I highly recommend that book. Have you ever read it, Chase? Oh,
it is so good. It'll just help you have a
lot of understanding and compassion for people and what the
world is going through and just how messed up a
lot of things are, and how many hurting people are
out there, and the different traumas that we've been through,
and digging deep into the why our brain does certain
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things that then cause us to act in certain ways.
It's fascinating. A nonfiction book that I'm dabbling in right
now for some light reading is Everything Inside, which I
saw as a recommendation speaking of book clubs, was part
of Reese Witherspoon's book Club and the author is Haitian
and it's like eight fiction stories that take place in
Haiti and Miami and all have really different, heavy topics
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to be honest. So when I say light reading, it's
not all light and fun, but it is different than
The Body keeps the Score. So if anything, it's the
Body keeps the Score. Is allowing me to have compassion
for some of the characters in Everything's Inside, even though
the characters are not real and I am not a
fiction reader, and everything inside I think I said as
fiction and that's just normally not my jam. But I
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really like it. Do you have any recommendations, Chase? Well,
I just purchased Killers of the Flower Moon. What is that?
I don't know. Everyone's telling me to read it, and
I know that Scor says he's going to make a
movie about it, so I'll keep you posted. I did
read the Jenna Bush book. I think it's like everything
Beautiful and It's Time. That's not the right title, I'm sorry,
but it's about her grandparents and I love the Bush family,
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so it was a good reading. So do I shout out.
I went to high school with Jenna and Barbara, and
Jenna and I ran cross country together and their family
is awesome and I will have to check out her book.
I need to read that. Another book that I've talked
about here on the podcast a lot is maybe you
should talk to someone, which, speaking of books turning into something,
that is going to be a show on Amazon, which
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I cannot wait for that. And then Jessica Simpson's book
called Open Book. It's being turned into an Amazon show.
Can't wait for that. So that's another book recommendation if
you haven't read it. But Laurie Gottlieb, who's the author
of Maybe You Should Talk to Someone, she will be
on the podcast, not this Thursday, because this Thursday is
Lauren Dagle, but she will be on next Thursday. So
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really excited for y'all to hear that interview. Okay, So, Emily,
all that to say, we're probably not going to start
a book club here on the podcast or in my
personal life officially. If I could figure out a way
to like really do it and do it well and
then also make sure that I've got the time for it,
then you know, once we get to that point, we'll
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do it. But for now, I'll just do recommendations here
on the Fifth Thing, or if I can have authors
on the four Things podcast on Thursdays, then we'll kind
of work it that way, and then if y'all have
any recommendations, please send them my way. I love being
able to tell people, um what they can be reading
or watching on Netflix or Hulu or Disney or whatever
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all the things. Have you watched one Division on Disney Plus? Yes? Okay, Yeah, well,
we're big fans here of that as well. Right next
email Email number three is from Holly Hey Amy. I
listened to the episode with Kinsey Todd and I say
yes and amen to pre engagement counseling. My now father
in law is a marriage and family biblical counselor, and
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he did his master thesis on pre engagement counseling. So
we were kind of guinea pigs at twenty one and
twenty two. I had been dating my now husband for
nine months and we went for a walk and he said,
don't read into this or anything, but I signed us
up to do pre engagement counseling. We got engaged a
few months after finishing the counseling and married three months
after that. Many couples that either don't have the skills
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to navigate marriage or just straight up or not a
good pair might start to realize that in the engagement,
but once there are rings and deposits and all the planning,
most people aren't willing to break it off despite warning signs. Anyway,
all that is to say that I tend out of
ten recommend to any of your listeners who are dating
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and considering marriage. We just celebrated our tenth anniversary last year,
and now we counsel other couples. Thanks for promoting that
on the show, which, yeah, amen, Holly, I love it.
I did not do pre engagement counseling. I did do
some pre marital counseling, but yes, the episode with Kinsey
Todd was great. She's a local entrepreneur here in Nashville
that opened up Full Ride Cycle, which is where Cat
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Defata teaches. She is the host of You Need Therapy
podcast and a local therapist here in Nashville. So you
can imagine a therapist teaching spin classes, like how motivating
and encouraging they are. But Cat is the one that
told me you need to have Kinsey on, and I'm
so glad she did because it was a really awesome episode.
And I know a lot of people across the country
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may not know Kinsey. It doesn't matter. You can learn
from all kinds of people. I feel like sometimes people
look to podcast to try to hear from a celebrity
they like, or an expert in this field or the
author this or whatever. But I think also just having
on everyday awesome people that are doing things on whatever level,
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having them on and they can offer little nuggets of
wisdom and encouragement and advice, and that is exactly what
Kinsey Todd brought to that episode, and I was so thankful.
And one of the things, I think it was in
the fourth thing. It came up because her and her
boyfriend are doing pre engagement counseling. Yeah, I think some
of my favorite episodes you've done are with guests that
I didn't know going into the episode. So I love that.
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So go check that out. You know, I wish I
was super organized and I had to where I said,
I would say, yeah, go check out Kinsey Todd episode
one two. I don't have that with me right now
because I'm the worst podcaster. But you can just go
into the search engine is that what they call it?
The search engine on wherever you listen to podcasts, and
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you can just type in Kinsey Todd, maybe Kinsey Todd,
Amy Brown, and it will come up. Sometimes when I'm
looking for specific people that I want to hear, I
just type in their name and I can see all
the podcasts that they've been on, and I go through
and I listened to every single podcast, and I feel
like sometimes I hear a repeat depending on the interview
style of the person they're sitting down with. I might
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learn something new about that person. So that's a little tip.
If there's someone that you like, you can search them up.
That's what my kids say. Instead of I say google it,
my kids go search it up? Mom? Can we search
it up? What do you say? Google it? Yeah? Me too.
I don't know. I guess I just think it's so
cute when they say search it up mom. Email number
four is from Angie. Hey, I don't really have a question,
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but I have a little story that I think you'll
get a smile from. Most nights, when tucking my kids
into bed, I ask what they are thankful for. My
little girl, who recently turned four, never runs out of
things to be thankful for. One night a few weeks ago,
when I asked her what she was thankful for, she said,
I'm thankful for your eyes and your hair, and your arms,
and your legs and your tummy and ears and mouth.
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She doesn't know this, but it really had a profound
effect on me. Shortly before she was born, I was
going through the hardest time in my life, which led
me to be super restrictive with eating. I ended up
getting down to a dangerous weight. In the last year
and a half, I've really come back from that time.
I still have very hard days, but it always helps
me to think of her and my son, who is seven.
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How can my body be wrong if I have arms
to hold them and legs to run and play with them,
and a tummy to eat ice cream with them. That's
what they want and need and are thankful for me,
just the way that I am. I have also found
so much help in you and Lisa, so thank you
so much for everything you do. You both are really
making a difference in people's lives. Thank you, Angie. Which
the Lisa that Angie's referring to is my co host
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on Outweigh, which is our podcast that is dedicated to
disordered eating and body image stuff and a new episode
releases every Saturday. So if you have not checked out out,
I highly encourage you to do that. Even if you
maybe don't struggle with it, someone in your life is,
so it could be interesting to just hear and see
what others around you might be going through so you
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can be in the know or maybe beyond guard, because
they sneak up on people through different stages in life.
So if you can be better equipped to realize some
of the signs that are happening. I can't tell you
how many notes we get from people that are like, wow,
I've just lived this way for so long. I had
no idea it was considered disordered eating or that I
had an unhealthy relationship. I just thought this is how
life was, and honestly, when I think about it, I'm miserable.
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But I just didn't know there was another way. So yeah, outweigh.
You can search that up. Search it up wherever you
listen to podcast and just type in outweigh and then
you'll see an image with Lisa's face in my face
and boom. That's how you'll know you're in the right spot.
So Angie, thank you so much for that cute story.
I know it wasn't really a question, but I think
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it'll be a story that a lot of people will. Yes,
they get a little smile from it, and then it's
a reminder to them that, yeah, I mean, you have
arms to hug your kids, you have legs to run
and play, you have a tummy to eat ice cream.
It makes me think of my dad. Like my dad,
it's on a feeding tube. He won't ever eat ice
cream again, like that could easily happen to any one
of us. That was not supposed to happen to my dad.
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My dad went in for a surgery where he was
supposed to be in the hospital for three to five
days and then you know, there was gonna be some
care and some physical therapy and working through different things.
But no, he ended up in I See You for
six to eight weeks or so. It was awful. He
coded like flatlined, was brought back like it was just
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like when I think back on that time, it was
totally do not know that story chase that Oh, my
sister and I will we were in Austin because we
I was there. I did the show from Austin the
majority of the time that my dad was in I
See You. And again, wasn't supposed to happen that way.
He was supposed to be in and out of the
hospital and it's just that something went wrong, and so yeah,
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he's never been the same since. But we got a
call about four in the morning, and my sister and
I were sleeping together at her in laws, and we
were sleeping, I think even in the same bed. So
it worked out perfectly and we're like Okay, gotta get up,
gotta go to the hospital. This is crazy. They're like, yeah,
get up here. It's not good. When we get off
the elevator at the hospital, do you know who was
standing there waiting to walk us to my dad's room?
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And I see a chaplain and you could imagine our
hearts sunk and we had already gone through the process
of losing our mother, and so our brains just automatically
went to, oh, my gosh, our dad died. Yep. So
my little just advice for hospitals staff and hospital chaplains
would be, I don't know, don't meet the family right
at the elevator. You can let them go realize that
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their family members still alive, that yeah, maybe their family
member died for a minute but or didn't have like
coded for a minute. But I mean, honestly, he was
there to comfort us because we didn't know what was
going to happen in the next in the coming hours,
would it happen again, would he you know, was there
going to be brain like all the things. So he
was there to come for us, and he was well intentioned,
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but it was just a little scary to have that,
like right off the elevator. So that's just always my
tip for if I have any chaplain's listening or hospital staff,
which chase, you've done a lot of work in a hospital. Yeah, No,
I think that's actually good advice because I I can
relate at times with the chaplain we've worked with that.
It's kind of funny how they're there to bring peace
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and make you feel good. But it also for some
of us triggers like, oh no, something's wrong, so it's
kind of a give and take. Well, I mean, yeah,
and something was definitely wrong, but of course our brains
went to he's died, because that's how it is in
the movies, the chaplain, and the chaplain's called the chaplain,
get the family up here. So I don't even know
how I started talking. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, my dad
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can no longer eat ice cream and he didn't know
that was going to happen, do you know what I mean? Like,
right now you have your your arms, and right now
you have your tummy, and right now you have your legs,
but you don't know what the day holds, so like,
be thankful for it in the moment. That's one thing
I went over in my coffee chat too. Was how
in the back of our gratitude journal we have all
these prompts because I think some days we do feel
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stuck and we don't really know how to figure out
what we're thankful for. And we put a bunch of
just questions in the bag that are simple questions of like, hey,
you know, did you talk to an old friend today?
Did your favorite podcast upload? Was it Four Things with
Amy Brown? Just kidding, We don't have that listed in there,
but we do have the podcast thing like did you
get to binge your favorite TV show? Did you find
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a new book to read that you love? Do you
have a washing machine? Do you have a dryer? Because
you know, I mean sometimes it's like the little things.
Do you have clean water? Were able to take a
shower today? I mean think about that. Some people don't
have a washing machine, some people don't have clean water,
Some people did not have access to a shower today.
Do you have a bed? Stuff like that. It just
really I mean, from like silly to big, like did
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you get to drink a diet coke? Today? Because you
never let yourself have them. I cut out diet cokes
for lots of reasons, because they don't make me feel good,
but occasionally I still have one, and man, they're good,
Oh they're so good. Mary's about to have her year
anniversary of no diet coke, but that was per her
doctor because of her TMJ and inflammation. Like she would
have a cocon a heartbeat, but hers is more of
(30:01):
a health thing and she doesn't even know for sure
if it's working. But her headaches have been less. She
was so miserable, she would try anything. Chase drinks something
that I disapprove of, but mainly because I think it's
going to give him a heart attack. What is it
that you drink? It's C four, It's a pre workout,
like before I lift. Yeah, but have you ever seen
yourself on a C four? Because you met up with
me one time after you drink a C four and
(30:22):
it was almost like you were on something. I think
you were reading into it a little too much. No,
but I worry about your heart and all the things.
And needless to say, I don't think C four will
ever be a sponsor here on the podcast, but diet
coke could maybe one day, or finn Min's. I only
say that, not that it will be. But I used
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to have such a strict list of who I would
and wouldn't endorse for Like, it was a big deal
for me last year to say yes to Milano cookies.
And I love milano cookies, but I was excited that
I was able to say yes to it because back
in my disordered eating days, I wouldn't have allowed myself
to tell people to eat milano cookies. But it's the
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restriction that causes like the binging. The more you restrict
and tell yourself you can't have that kind of stuff,
then that's the more when you fall off the wagon
mentality that you just eat all the Milano cookies. This
would have been my thing. I would have been like, okay, no,
I can never endorse milano cookies or diet coke. But
then on a day that I was having more of
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a binge mentality because I was going to start my
diet the next day, I would have eaten all the
Milano cookies and gone and had a diet coke and
then done whatever. But then no way would I endorse
it on my podcast. And so now I'm just thankful
to be in a healthy place where, yeah, if I
want to freaking milano cookie or an oreo, I'm gonna
have it, and I want to be able to endorse
that so that people can have it too. It's so crazy.
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I used to do endorsements too for juice cleanses, and
now I won't. I can still do endorsements for a
juice company, but I don't want to promote a three
day cleans Like if you want a green juice, Yes,
a green juice has things to offer your body, and
there's nutrients, and I do think there are benefits to that.
But now I would drink a green juice and eat food.
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I'm not gonna encourage anybody to go three days with
no food and only consume juice. Does that makes sense?
Total sense? Okay? I guess that's a wrap on today's episode, Chase.
I just feel like even just having you here to
look out while I'm rambling helps me, So this is good,
all right? And then next time, well, my sister is
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coming down this week, so maybe she'll do next Tuesday's
fifth thing with me, or we'll record something together. But
then maybe the following one after that, Chases, we can
do the rapid fire Q and A. I'll put up
a Q and A on Instagram. I'm at Radio Amy
and if you're not following me. Chase is at Chase
Lock Underscore and Lock is l O c k E.
Shout out cause you want to give him a follow,
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And then I'll put a Q and A thing up there.
We'll capture the questions and then we'll do the rapid
fire Q and A and then also I run the
Shoppaspoa account, so follow that at SCHOPPUSPLA. And then Mary
the Shop Forward is back to where like nobody's seeing
her posts. It's crazy. I don't even know what's happening.
The algorithm is so bizarre. And that's like the main way.
She has way more followers than a squat, Like she's
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gathered quite a big following over at the Shop Forward,
and I think people like knowing what she's putting out
and how they can have something cute that gives back.
And people are not seeing her posts and her views
and her stories, you know how you can see how
many people have viewed their way down, Like a small
percentage of people are even seeing it, and we don't
know why. So if you're missing her posts and you
follow her and you want to see her, I think
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I heard that if you start a d M conversation
with it, anyone, their stories will start to pop back
up in your feed because I guess Instagram starts to
see like, oh, you're d m ng with this place,
so clearly you want to talk to this person or
see what they're up to. Blah blah blah blah blah.
And while we're throwing out Instagram handles, since my sister
is about to come in town, I will throw out
her coffee shop handle at Roothouse co. And my sister
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and her hasband are working on something that's so cool.
I think maybe we've told you. Actually, they came on
the podcast last year AND's did they say how they're
filming a TV show and they like hinted around it. Yeah. Oops,
I don't know if it's a hint or they dropped that,
but yeah they are. It's gonna be crazy, So follow
their coffee shop. If anything happens, you never know. I'm
really excited about it. I'm a big Christy fan. Anytime
(34:16):
I'm wondering what to do on the podcast, He's like,
have your sister on. I think you should have your
sister on. Where's Christie? What's Christie doing? Let's have Christie
on she's awesome. Let me call Christie. So okay, guys,
that is really the end of the episode. If you
are listening this long, well then you're my favorite. All
right now, Miss Day see you Thursday, Lauren Daego will
be on, so yeah, you have that to look forward to.
Whoop by
Happy Tuesday. Welcome to the Fifth Thing, the bonus episode
of the four Things podcast where I answer your questions
and I got Chase with me today. It's been a
minute since you've been on the podcast, Chase, No, I
think it's been a while. Glad to be here. Yeah.
I did a coffee chat this weekend. Sometimes I've been
doing lives, and by sometimes I think, I mean this
was my third one, but I've done two on the
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at Radio Amy account on Instagram and one this last
weekend on the at Shops spat account. And just I
make my coffee and I sit down and I think
I'll just do like twenty minutes on here, and then
an hour goes by and I'm like, oh, I can't
believe I'm still rambling, and surely nobody is still here
watching the whole thing. But at least if people get
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bits and pieces. But one of the questions that was
sent in and the live chat was everything cool with Chase.
I haven't heard him on the podcast recently, and I'm like, oh, yeah,
Chase is still heavily involved. It's probably just more so
me and my schedule and not arranging it with him
to like have him on more not that you care,
but it is helpful, especially in the fifth thing, like
having someone to just bounce things off with. So it's
(01:09):
not my voice for the entire time. But anyway, it
was funny that they commented that because we had already
scheduled to do this, so boom, here you are. I
worked out you had people asking about you. It was
one person, but I'm sure others were wondering as well,
So I'm just gonna go over. Sometimes Chase reads the
email if he's on. Sometimes I don't really know exactly
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what we always do. We had thought about doing a
rapid fire Q and A today with leftover questions from
a Q and A box that I put up on
Instagram stories the other day, but I realized that if
you don't save those questions, they disappear when the story expires,
so all the questions are gone, and if someone knows otherwise,
if there's a way, I can go back into archives.
I did go back into archives, but I couldn't see
(01:51):
the questions. But if there is a way, you'll let
me know, because I'll go back through and grab a
lot of them and Chase and I'll do a rapid
fire with the questions because there was so many. It
was really cool. I've never done one of those q
and as on Instagram before. I actually like flipping through this,
so I love when people don't. Oh, I mean I
do too. You get random, useful, helpful information. It's crazy
weird things you can get on Instagram, or just updates
(02:13):
on things that you were curious about. So I will
try to start implementing those into my Instagram life as
much as I can. But it took takes a lot
of time, because of course it probably doesn't have to
take as much time as I made it, but I
wanted to find a picture that corresponded with my answer.
I mean, I don't know why I make everything so difficult.
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So Okay, today I'm just gonna read the emails. Chase
is not going to read them because I forgot to
send them to him. But then Chase and I will
correspond about the emails. So the Tuesday episodes always start
off with a quote, and today's is from Maya Angelo,
which Chase, I think you'll like this one. You may
not control all the events that happened to you, but
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you can decide not to be reduced by them. Meditate
on that one for a little bit because it's definitely good. Oh,
which reminds me of I'm fine, It's fine, everything is fine,
because you know, we're all not. Nobody's fine right now,
but yeah, we don't have to be reduced by whatever
it is that we're going through. Like we can come
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out of this stuff stronger. Right. It's gonna take some time,
but we are working on something Chase part of the
I'm fine line. That's probably unexpected. People wouldn't think that
this would be part of that I'm fine, but it's
going to be so good. I don't even know if
you know about it, but I'm just gonna drop this
tease right here that we have to shop a squat
(03:37):
items coming out one in March that I'm so pumped about,
kind of in relation to my forty birthday. Yes, I'm
turning forty. What up? I can't wait. I'm actually excited
about it. I mean, I'm excited about turning forty, I
will be honest, I'm not excited about celebrating or having
a birthday party. All that stuff just seems weird, Like
(03:57):
celebrating in this season of just is weird for me,
to be honest, So I don't I don't know that
I really want to. I mean, but I want to
acknowledge it, and I would love to be with friends
and thankful for friends and family that like want to
celebrate and are asking me what I want to do,
and I just feel stuck my responses. I don't really
want to do anything, but I do want to come
(04:18):
out with this shopics while item because it is going
to be awesome, and then the other item that is
totally different but will still benefit Haiti. And again part
of that, I'm fine. Line. I don't have an update
on that. I need to get with Mary on the timeline,
but it's going to take a little bit longer. But
we have the bones of it all done. It's just
we gotta get it made and figured out. It's cool. Okay,
(04:41):
those are my little teases. I know nothing about it,
so now I'm super intrigued, Like, what are we going
to see in March? Yeah, you're on the edge of
your seat right now, I can tell. And also, happy
Gratitude Challenge a month. It's March second when you're listening
to this, and our Gratitude Challenge has started, So no
worries if you didn't start yesterday. Our rules are pretty loose.
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You just join us when you can do the best
you can at journaling and being intentional about four things
every day they're thankful for. Whether you do it in
our squaw for Things Gratitude journal or your own journal,
we just want you to join us in practicing gratitude.
And if you do on our journal, like it's not
too late. That's still available radio amy dot com. If
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you don't, you don't, But have you? Did you start chase?
Are you doing it with us? Yeah? I have my
old journal. I need to get a new one, but
I'm doing it on my notes on my iPhone. Oh
so you can type it in? Yeah, I will say
I was I encouraged that last time, like wherever you
want to do it. But I've heard from so many
people and read all these articles about how pinned to
paper is so powerful. I'm sure fingertips to keyboard might
(05:49):
be the same. Ish, but something about just sitting there
writing it is therapeutic. I don't know if the new
one is quite my style as a guy. Oh, but
the Tide I was, yes, I mean, I'm not knocking.
I'm just saying for a guy, you know, it's yeah,
I know the corals and the pinks might be a
bit of a stretch. All right, let's get into email
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number one, which is from Heather Hey Amy, I listened
to the latest podcast with Caitlin as well as the
fifth thing from that week. I resonated with your stories
on eating disorders, which side note, this is me talking
last week. We did focus on that a lot because
it was need a week, National Eating Disorder Awareness Week,
which reminds me that March eight is National Empowered Women's Day,
(06:33):
so we do have an Empowered Women, Empower Women pull
over shirt v neck stuff for kids. I just want
to let y'all know that we have it, because the
Shot Forward has an Empowered Women's Fund, which goes towards
supporting organizations that work with women and young girls and
lifting them up and helping them rise to be the
best that they can be. And I forget sometimes that
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we have that in Stashira, my daughter, when she was twelve,
she did the artwork for it. So you still have time.
I would say, if you're listening to this and you
want to get something, and maybe get it for your
daughter or your best friend, or your coworker or yourself,
like that might be a cool gift that gives back
to empowering women, but you get to represent empowering women.
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When I interviewed Robin Roberts for the podcast, I wore
it and she noticed it right away and she's like,
I love your pullover. That's so cool, and so I
loved that. I got to brag to Robin that my
daughter did the artwork. And then also we mailed Robin one.
I still haven't seen her wear it online yet, but
I mean, I'm sure she wears it all the time.
Amber her Sweet Amber, wore a Pimp and Joy. We
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mailed a whole package. We kind of went a little
overboard because we were like, we've got Robin's address, let's
send her everything. Probably embarrassingly sent too much, but we
were so excited and we threw in some Pimp and
Joy and all kinds of things. And Robin had posted
on her Instagram like a snow day with Sweet Amber,
and underneath her jacket you could see the Navy Pimp
and Joy collegiate popping through. And I was so pumped.
(08:01):
Which also see, this is what happens. I'm trying to
read an email, but then I think of all these
different thoughts and speaking of Pimp and Joy, we've raised
over fifty dollars with our new line that dropped on Friday.
We put out sweatpants which are super cute. They've got
hashtag Pimp and Joy down the leg I love them.
They're soft, they're cozy, you won't ever want to take
them off. And we put out a tied ie pull over,
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which unfortunately is sold out. We can't get more, but
we did order enough sweatpants because we knew they were
going to be popular, and then we added a four
screen Pimp and Joy Collegiate. Anyway, I just wanted to
say thank you. Y'all are amazing. We appreciate the support
so much. Pimp and joys like spread Joy, Choose Joy,
be Joy, all the Joy, and y'all are going to
make such a difference with COVID relief because you shopped
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Pimp and Joy the last few days. So what up? Okay,
let's seriously get back into this email. Okay, Chase Good.
I feel like you should also say something too, because
here I am like I want Jason, I don't want
it to just be me, and then here I am
rambling over and over. I just feel like I have
so much in my head that I want to talk about.
I just will say real quickly, going back to the
Empowered Women hoodie. I don't think I even told you this,
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but two weeks ago I was in the d C
Airport and I saw a girl on the moving sidewalk
wearing her Empowered Women hoodie. I thought it was awesome.
Did you say, like, what up? I love your pull over?
I gave him like a pump going by. I do
that too. I tracked people down in airport's malls anywhere.
If I see them in anything Pimp and Joy or
four Things, a squaw whatever, I am the obnoxious person.
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I saw a guy at the mall a couple of
weeks ago with a born Your hat on, and I
walked by, and I just say, I love your hat.
And I'm sure that was a gift from somebody or
his wife or maybe his sister or something for his birthday.
And he probably has no idea who I am or
anything that was obvious, because I feel like if they
did know, they'd be like, oh, hey, yeah, cool, I
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love you. Don't love what you guys do? This? Haitie?
What up? Born here? But he didn't. He kind of
just looked at me awkwardly. So yeah, that's always fun.
And then there's always the time that I ran into
that guy with a pimp and joy hat in Austin
and I was so distracted trying to get his attention
that I ran into a tree. You don't know about that. Yes,
it was years like years ago, Mary and I were
(10:10):
walking to do something because we were there for i
Heeart Country Festival, and someone walked by in the customized red,
white and blue pimp and joy hats that we did
one year that are so cool, which I think we
maybe we'll have those for this year for Fourth of
July were I think Mary's working on it. But yeah,
walking down the street downtown Austin and boom, I ran
right into a tree. When we talked about it on
the Bobby Bones Show, like Bobby and lunch Box, like,
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we have got to get with downtown Austin and try
to get that footage. Surely there was a camera somewhere
and we tried, but not very hard, and we never
got the footage. But so back to what Heather was saying.
She said, when I was younger, like fourteen or fifteen,
a guy that I liked called me chubby I have
struggled with eating ever since. I never said I had
an eating disorder. I just always said that I had
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an unhealthy relationship with food. I still struggle to stop
treating workouts as punishment. I struggle with that hard. I
am learning to be happy with my body, loving who
God intended me to be. I have a notebook that
I write and often notes quotes, song lyrics, journal entries,
and sometimes just doodles. This has been great for my
mental health. I want to say that I appreciate you
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and Caitlin sharing your struggles with the world. One time,
you mentioned your closet was your space, that you would
just shut yourself in your closet and cry, scream, or
whatever you need it at the moment. I think that
this is right after your children came home. Anyway, you
said that, and now I shut myself in my closet
when I need a moment. I cry in there, I scream,
I pray, I rally myself. It's my safe space. I
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know that you're going through some things in life right now.
I just hope you know that you're contributing to the
lives of people. So many people are praying for you
and rooting for you. So Heather, thank you for rooting
for me. And I'm sure you're a champion for others
in your life, and I'm rooting for you and all
of you that are listening. Again, I think everybody's going
through some rough stuff. So yeah, all the hugs and ears,
(12:00):
and I just appreciate you sending that note because I
think it's a perfect reminder why we don't comment on
people's bodies. And shame on that boyfriend forever calling you chubby.
I mean, really, when I talk about now recently being
a champion of not commenting on people's bodies, it's more
so about compliments that are actually kind of positive by
society standards, but can be harmful, like oh, you look
so skinny, What are you doing if you lost weight again?
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Could be harmful, But gosh, you would assume that someone
would know that saying chubby would be harmful. And I'm
going to give him a pass because he was in
high school. But that's just a reminder to us parents
to like have conversations with our kids, like make sure
that they know what's appropriate to say to someone, Like
let's have these conversations. Let's start young, so that when
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they do get to high school, they're like, aware, Oh, yeah,
I probably shouldn't call a girl chubby. What Chase any
thoughts on this as a young man who was also
in high school. Yeah, I mean, I think I love
the episode with you and Caitlin and everything you've been
doing on that way that I've listened to has made
me more aware of how I compliment and how I
talk about things. And I think as young men, there
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are things that I think by society standards, we were
kind of preconditioned that we thought were acceptable that as
you grow into being an adult man, especially now, you're like,
oh my gosh, well yeah, but I mean calling a
girl chubby was never never, but just in general, like
the way we speak to one another and how we
compliment well, and I would say, maybe it's not even
(13:25):
the chubby comment, it's something else, but how something that
we were told as a child when we're fourteen literally
impacts us to this day still as an adult, and
just how you know, words matter, And also too, I
love that, you know, Heather offers encouragement that she's putting
in the work, to journal, to to pray, to rally herself,
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to find her safe space wherever that is maybe it's
your closet, maybe it's your car, maybe it's under your bed,
Like I don't know where you have to go to
have your little safe haven where you can just let
it all out. But make sure you're doing that for
your self. Like having your safe space is really important.
I think. I asked people where their spaces were. It
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was last fall, and a lot of people said their garage,
their car, their closet, their bathroom, whatever. But some pro
tips that I got from asking that question with so
many people said they hide snacks. They hide snacks away
and their safe space, And I just thought that was
such a genius idea because you never know how long
you're going to be in there, and then that way
(14:28):
you can just you don't have to come out like
you've got your drinks, your drink stash. You're like a
diet coke. I don't mean like alcohol, but maybe maybe
it is a little bit if you're in a healthy
place with that. I've also do alcohols, another thing that
I've learned to be like super sensitive about, you know,
because again, you never know what someone else is going through,
and we casually just throw out alcohol like oh yeah,
(14:48):
just grab a glass of wine. Do this drawn you know,
forget about it, relax, unwind well for someone hearing that
that maybe has an unhealthy relationship with alcohol, that might
not be good. So just learning as I go and
trying to share things with y'all as that comes up.
But man, Heather, I'm sorry that that boy told you
that at fourteen or fifteen. Oh, that reminds me. I
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wanted to read this Instagram d M that I got
from Tiffany I think was her name, and Tiffany Morris, Yes,
shout out. She sent me a d M from her
daily devotional for February from Jesus calling, And I'm going
to read that to you all right now, because this
is just encouragement for you knowing your worth and your
worth does not come from some fifteen year old boy
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that called you chubby or insert whatever the statement is here.
What she sent me was stop judging and evaluating yourself,
for this is not your role. Above all, Stop comparing
yourself with other people. This produces feelings of pride inferiority,
sometimes a mixture of both. I lead each of my
children along a path that is uniquely tailor made for
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him or her. Comparing is not only wrong. It is
also meaningless. So that's just a reminder too, because I
feel like if somebody says something about you, then you,
honestly you could start looking towards others, and then you
do all this comparing. You're like, well, I guess compared
to that person, I am this. Stop let's not do that, right, Chase,
Stop comparing yourself to me? Just kidding, Okay. Email number
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two is from Emily. Hey girl, I'll hope you're doing well.
I love the book recommendations on the fifth thing. I'm
also a bookworm and love hearing what everyone else is
reading or watching. Have you ever considered doing a book
club here or on The Bobby Bones Show or The
Shop Forward? Would love to see it. Have a great day, Emily,
Mary and I have talked about maybe Espua having some
sort of book club. I do think it would be
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good if she reads like really fast. She could probably
do something on The Shop Forward. But I think for
both of us it's like time, like we both do
get to read, but then to have to be committed
to reading something because now we're in a club might
be hard. I will say I'm currently reading Body Keeps
the Score, which is nonfiction I have the physical copy
that I'm going through and highlighting things, and then I
(17:08):
have the audible download because it's a lot of information.
But I highly recommend that book. Have you ever read it, Chase? Oh,
it is so good. It'll just help you have a
lot of understanding and compassion for people and what the
world is going through and just how messed up a
lot of things are, and how many hurting people are
out there, and the different traumas that we've been through,
and digging deep into the why our brain does certain
(17:32):
things that then cause us to act in certain ways.
It's fascinating. A nonfiction book that I'm dabbling in right
now for some light reading is Everything Inside, which I
saw as a recommendation speaking of book clubs, was part
of Reese Witherspoon's book Club and the author is Haitian
and it's like eight fiction stories that take place in
Haiti and Miami and all have really different, heavy topics
(17:56):
to be honest. So when I say light reading, it's
not all light and fun, but it is different than
The Body keeps the Score. So if anything, it's the
Body keeps the Score. Is allowing me to have compassion
for some of the characters in Everything's Inside, even though
the characters are not real and I am not a
fiction reader, and everything inside I think I said as
fiction and that's just normally not my jam. But I
(18:17):
really like it. Do you have any recommendations, Chase? Well,
I just purchased Killers of the Flower Moon. What is that?
I don't know. Everyone's telling me to read it, and
I know that Scor says he's going to make a
movie about it, so I'll keep you posted. I did
read the Jenna Bush book. I think it's like everything
Beautiful and It's Time. That's not the right title, I'm sorry,
but it's about her grandparents and I love the Bush family,
(18:39):
so it was a good reading. So do I shout out.
I went to high school with Jenna and Barbara, and
Jenna and I ran cross country together and their family
is awesome and I will have to check out her book.
I need to read that. Another book that I've talked
about here on the podcast a lot is maybe you
should talk to someone, which, speaking of books turning into something,
that is going to be a show on Amazon, which
(18:59):
I cannot wait for that. And then Jessica Simpson's book
called Open Book. It's being turned into an Amazon show.
Can't wait for that. So that's another book recommendation if
you haven't read it. But Laurie Gottlieb, who's the author
of Maybe You Should Talk to Someone, she will be
on the podcast, not this Thursday, because this Thursday is
Lauren Dagle, but she will be on next Thursday. So
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really excited for y'all to hear that interview. Okay, So, Emily,
all that to say, we're probably not going to start
a book club here on the podcast or in my
personal life officially. If I could figure out a way
to like really do it and do it well and
then also make sure that I've got the time for it,
then you know, once we get to that point, we'll
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do it. But for now, I'll just do recommendations here
on the Fifth Thing, or if I can have authors
on the four Things podcast on Thursdays, then we'll kind
of work it that way, and then if y'all have
any recommendations, please send them my way. I love being
able to tell people, um what they can be reading
or watching on Netflix or Hulu or Disney or whatever
(20:01):
all the things. Have you watched one Division on Disney Plus? Yes? Okay, Yeah, well,
we're big fans here of that as well. Right next
email Email number three is from Holly Hey Amy. I
listened to the episode with Kinsey Todd and I say
yes and amen to pre engagement counseling. My now father
in law is a marriage and family biblical counselor, and
(20:21):
he did his master thesis on pre engagement counseling. So
we were kind of guinea pigs at twenty one and
twenty two. I had been dating my now husband for
nine months and we went for a walk and he said,
don't read into this or anything, but I signed us
up to do pre engagement counseling. We got engaged a
few months after finishing the counseling and married three months
after that. Many couples that either don't have the skills
(20:43):
to navigate marriage or just straight up or not a
good pair might start to realize that in the engagement,
but once there are rings and deposits and all the planning,
most people aren't willing to break it off despite warning signs. Anyway,
all that is to say that I tend out of
ten recommend to any of your listeners who are dating
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and considering marriage. We just celebrated our tenth anniversary last year,
and now we counsel other couples. Thanks for promoting that
on the show, which, yeah, amen, Holly, I love it.
I did not do pre engagement counseling. I did do
some pre marital counseling, but yes, the episode with Kinsey
Todd was great. She's a local entrepreneur here in Nashville
that opened up Full Ride Cycle, which is where Cat
(21:27):
Defata teaches. She is the host of You Need Therapy
podcast and a local therapist here in Nashville. So you
can imagine a therapist teaching spin classes, like how motivating
and encouraging they are. But Cat is the one that
told me you need to have Kinsey on, and I'm
so glad she did because it was a really awesome episode.
And I know a lot of people across the country
(21:48):
may not know Kinsey. It doesn't matter. You can learn
from all kinds of people. I feel like sometimes people
look to podcast to try to hear from a celebrity
they like, or an expert in this field or the
author this or whatever. But I think also just having
on everyday awesome people that are doing things on whatever level,
(22:09):
having them on and they can offer little nuggets of
wisdom and encouragement and advice, and that is exactly what
Kinsey Todd brought to that episode, and I was so thankful.
And one of the things, I think it was in
the fourth thing. It came up because her and her
boyfriend are doing pre engagement counseling. Yeah, I think some
of my favorite episodes you've done are with guests that
I didn't know going into the episode. So I love that.
(22:30):
So go check that out. You know, I wish I
was super organized and I had to where I said,
I would say, yeah, go check out Kinsey Todd episode
one two. I don't have that with me right now
because I'm the worst podcaster. But you can just go
into the search engine is that what they call it?
The search engine on wherever you listen to podcasts, and
(22:52):
you can just type in Kinsey Todd, maybe Kinsey Todd,
Amy Brown, and it will come up. Sometimes when I'm
looking for specific people that I want to hear, I
just type in their name and I can see all
the podcasts that they've been on, and I go through
and I listened to every single podcast, and I feel
like sometimes I hear a repeat depending on the interview
style of the person they're sitting down with. I might
(23:13):
learn something new about that person. So that's a little tip.
If there's someone that you like, you can search them up.
That's what my kids say. Instead of I say google it,
my kids go search it up? Mom? Can we search
it up? What do you say? Google it? Yeah? Me too.
I don't know. I guess I just think it's so
cute when they say search it up mom. Email number
four is from Angie. Hey, I don't really have a question,
(23:35):
but I have a little story that I think you'll
get a smile from. Most nights, when tucking my kids
into bed, I ask what they are thankful for. My
little girl, who recently turned four, never runs out of
things to be thankful for. One night a few weeks ago,
when I asked her what she was thankful for, she said,
I'm thankful for your eyes and your hair, and your arms,
and your legs and your tummy and ears and mouth.
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She doesn't know this, but it really had a profound
effect on me. Shortly before she was born, I was
going through the hardest time in my life, which led
me to be super restrictive with eating. I ended up
getting down to a dangerous weight. In the last year
and a half, I've really come back from that time.
I still have very hard days, but it always helps
me to think of her and my son, who is seven.
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How can my body be wrong if I have arms
to hold them and legs to run and play with them,
and a tummy to eat ice cream with them. That's
what they want and need and are thankful for me,
just the way that I am. I have also found
so much help in you and Lisa, so thank you
so much for everything you do. You both are really
making a difference in people's lives. Thank you, Angie. Which
the Lisa that Angie's referring to is my co host
(24:41):
on Outweigh, which is our podcast that is dedicated to
disordered eating and body image stuff and a new episode
releases every Saturday. So if you have not checked out out,
I highly encourage you to do that. Even if you
maybe don't struggle with it, someone in your life is,
so it could be interesting to just hear and see
what others around you might be going through so you
(25:03):
can be in the know or maybe beyond guard, because
they sneak up on people through different stages in life.
So if you can be better equipped to realize some
of the signs that are happening. I can't tell you
how many notes we get from people that are like, wow,
I've just lived this way for so long. I had
no idea it was considered disordered eating or that I
had an unhealthy relationship. I just thought this is how
life was, and honestly, when I think about it, I'm miserable.
(25:25):
But I just didn't know there was another way. So yeah, outweigh.
You can search that up. Search it up wherever you
listen to podcast and just type in outweigh and then
you'll see an image with Lisa's face in my face
and boom. That's how you'll know you're in the right spot.
So Angie, thank you so much for that cute story.
I know it wasn't really a question, but I think
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it'll be a story that a lot of people will. Yes,
they get a little smile from it, and then it's
a reminder to them that, yeah, I mean, you have
arms to hug your kids, you have legs to run
and play, you have a tummy to eat ice cream.
It makes me think of my dad. Like my dad,
it's on a feeding tube. He won't ever eat ice
cream again, like that could easily happen to any one
of us. That was not supposed to happen to my dad.
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My dad went in for a surgery where he was
supposed to be in the hospital for three to five
days and then you know, there was gonna be some
care and some physical therapy and working through different things.
But no, he ended up in I See You for
six to eight weeks or so. It was awful. He
coded like flatlined, was brought back like it was just
(26:26):
like when I think back on that time, it was
totally do not know that story chase that Oh, my
sister and I will we were in Austin because we
I was there. I did the show from Austin the
majority of the time that my dad was in I
See You. And again, wasn't supposed to happen that way.
He was supposed to be in and out of the
hospital and it's just that something went wrong, and so yeah,
(26:46):
he's never been the same since. But we got a
call about four in the morning, and my sister and
I were sleeping together at her in laws, and we
were sleeping, I think even in the same bed. So
it worked out perfectly and we're like Okay, gotta get up,
gotta go to the hospital. This is crazy. They're like, yeah,
get up here. It's not good. When we get off
the elevator at the hospital, do you know who was
standing there waiting to walk us to my dad's room?
(27:08):
And I see a chaplain and you could imagine our
hearts sunk and we had already gone through the process
of losing our mother, and so our brains just automatically
went to, oh, my gosh, our dad died. Yep. So
my little just advice for hospitals staff and hospital chaplains
would be, I don't know, don't meet the family right
at the elevator. You can let them go realize that
(27:31):
their family members still alive, that yeah, maybe their family
member died for a minute but or didn't have like
coded for a minute. But I mean, honestly, he was
there to comfort us because we didn't know what was
going to happen in the next in the coming hours,
would it happen again, would he you know, was there
going to be brain like all the things. So he
was there to come for us, and he was well intentioned,
(27:54):
but it was just a little scary to have that,
like right off the elevator. So that's just always my
tip for if I have any chaplain's listening or hospital staff,
which chase, you've done a lot of work in a hospital. Yeah, No,
I think that's actually good advice because I I can
relate at times with the chaplain we've worked with that.
It's kind of funny how they're there to bring peace
(28:15):
and make you feel good. But it also for some
of us triggers like, oh no, something's wrong, so it's
kind of a give and take. Well, I mean, yeah,
and something was definitely wrong, but of course our brains
went to he's died, because that's how it is in
the movies, the chaplain, and the chaplain's called the chaplain,
get the family up here. So I don't even know
how I started talking. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, my dad
(28:37):
can no longer eat ice cream and he didn't know
that was going to happen, do you know what I mean? Like,
right now you have your your arms, and right now
you have your tummy, and right now you have your legs,
but you don't know what the day holds, so like,
be thankful for it in the moment. That's one thing
I went over in my coffee chat too. Was how
in the back of our gratitude journal we have all
these prompts because I think some days we do feel
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stuck and we don't really know how to figure out
what we're thankful for. And we put a bunch of
just questions in the bag that are simple questions of like, hey,
you know, did you talk to an old friend today?
Did your favorite podcast upload? Was it Four Things with
Amy Brown? Just kidding, We don't have that listed in there,
but we do have the podcast thing like did you
get to binge your favorite TV show? Did you find
(29:20):
a new book to read that you love? Do you
have a washing machine? Do you have a dryer? Because
you know, I mean sometimes it's like the little things.
Do you have clean water? Were able to take a
shower today? I mean think about that. Some people don't
have a washing machine, some people don't have clean water,
Some people did not have access to a shower today.
Do you have a bed? Stuff like that. It just
really I mean, from like silly to big, like did
(29:40):
you get to drink a diet coke? Today? Because you
never let yourself have them. I cut out diet cokes
for lots of reasons, because they don't make me feel good,
but occasionally I still have one, and man, they're good,
Oh they're so good. Mary's about to have her year
anniversary of no diet coke, but that was per her
doctor because of her TMJ and inflammation. Like she would
have a cocon a heartbeat, but hers is more of
(30:01):
a health thing and she doesn't even know for sure
if it's working. But her headaches have been less. She
was so miserable, she would try anything. Chase drinks something
that I disapprove of, but mainly because I think it's
going to give him a heart attack. What is it
that you drink? It's C four, It's a pre workout,
like before I lift. Yeah, but have you ever seen
yourself on a C four? Because you met up with
me one time after you drink a C four and
(30:22):
it was almost like you were on something. I think
you were reading into it a little too much. No,
but I worry about your heart and all the things.
And needless to say, I don't think C four will
ever be a sponsor here on the podcast, but diet
coke could maybe one day, or finn Min's. I only
say that, not that it will be. But I used
(30:43):
to have such a strict list of who I would
and wouldn't endorse for Like, it was a big deal
for me last year to say yes to Milano cookies.
And I love milano cookies, but I was excited that
I was able to say yes to it because back
in my disordered eating days, I wouldn't have allowed myself
to tell people to eat milano cookies. But it's the
(31:03):
restriction that causes like the binging. The more you restrict
and tell yourself you can't have that kind of stuff,
then that's the more when you fall off the wagon
mentality that you just eat all the Milano cookies. This
would have been my thing. I would have been like, okay, no,
I can never endorse milano cookies or diet coke. But
then on a day that I was having more of
(31:23):
a binge mentality because I was going to start my
diet the next day, I would have eaten all the
Milano cookies and gone and had a diet coke and
then done whatever. But then no way would I endorse
it on my podcast. And so now I'm just thankful
to be in a healthy place where, yeah, if I
want to freaking milano cookie or an oreo, I'm gonna
have it, and I want to be able to endorse
that so that people can have it too. It's so crazy.
(31:45):
I used to do endorsements too for juice cleanses, and
now I won't. I can still do endorsements for a
juice company, but I don't want to promote a three
day cleans Like if you want a green juice, Yes,
a green juice has things to offer your body, and
there's nutrients, and I do think there are benefits to that.
But now I would drink a green juice and eat food.
(32:06):
I'm not gonna encourage anybody to go three days with
no food and only consume juice. Does that makes sense?
Total sense? Okay? I guess that's a wrap on today's episode, Chase.
I just feel like even just having you here to
look out while I'm rambling helps me, So this is good,
all right? And then next time, well, my sister is
(32:26):
coming down this week, so maybe she'll do next Tuesday's
fifth thing with me, or we'll record something together. But
then maybe the following one after that, Chases, we can
do the rapid fire Q and A. I'll put up
a Q and A on Instagram. I'm at Radio Amy
and if you're not following me. Chase is at Chase
Lock Underscore and Lock is l O c k E.
Shout out cause you want to give him a follow,
(32:49):
And then I'll put a Q and A thing up there.
We'll capture the questions and then we'll do the rapid
fire Q and A and then also I run the
Shoppaspoa account, so follow that at SCHOPPUSPLA. And then Mary
the Shop Forward is back to where like nobody's seeing
her posts. It's crazy. I don't even know what's happening.
The algorithm is so bizarre. And that's like the main way.
She has way more followers than a squat, Like she's
(33:11):
gathered quite a big following over at the Shop Forward,
and I think people like knowing what she's putting out
and how they can have something cute that gives back.
And people are not seeing her posts and her views
and her stories, you know how you can see how
many people have viewed their way down, Like a small
percentage of people are even seeing it, and we don't
know why. So if you're missing her posts and you
follow her and you want to see her, I think
(33:32):
I heard that if you start a d M conversation
with it, anyone, their stories will start to pop back
up in your feed because I guess Instagram starts to
see like, oh, you're d m ng with this place,
so clearly you want to talk to this person or
see what they're up to. Blah blah blah blah blah.
And while we're throwing out Instagram handles, since my sister
is about to come in town, I will throw out
her coffee shop handle at Roothouse co. And my sister
(33:55):
and her hasband are working on something that's so cool.
I think maybe we've told you. Actually, they came on
the podcast last year AND's did they say how they're
filming a TV show and they like hinted around it. Yeah. Oops,
I don't know if it's a hint or they dropped that,
but yeah they are. It's gonna be crazy, So follow
their coffee shop. If anything happens, you never know. I'm
really excited about it. I'm a big Christy fan. Anytime
(34:16):
I'm wondering what to do on the podcast, He's like,
have your sister on. I think you should have your
sister on. Where's Christie? What's Christie doing? Let's have Christie
on she's awesome. Let me call Christie. So okay, guys,
that is really the end of the episode. If you
are listening this long, well then you're my favorite. All
right now, Miss Day see you Thursday, Lauren Daego will
be on, so yeah, you have that to look forward to.
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