December 16, 2021 • 31 mins
Journalist, Mosheh Oinounou, is back on to talk about things in news that we can look forward to in 2022 (like sports/olympics, cool tech things, the economy, presidential candidates, and so much more!). They also discussed some pop-culture things and the current Ghislaine Maxwell case (Epstein). As you may know…Amy is obsessed with @Mosheh’s Instagram account...it's her favorite source for all things going on in the world...so we are excited to have him on again as we approach a new year.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Okay, rope, A little food for you so life. Oh
it's pretty Bay, It's pretty beautiful. Thanks laughs, A little
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month sight use you're kicking with four Happy Thursday, Welcome
to Four Things. My guest today is a returning guest
from the news world. I call him Mosh, but Mosha
what others call you? Well, my mother named me mosha.
(00:45):
One who knew. Last name is one who knew. But
to make it easy, I friends, family, acquaintances, colleagues, I'll
call me Mosh. There you go, And on Instagram you
can find him at m O s h e H.
And he is one of the best, if not my
my personal favorite on Instagram to follow when it comes
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getting updates of what's going on around the world. And
you're on a few months ago and we were talking
about some big headlines from this year, four of them.
Since it's the Four Things podcast, and now that we're
towards the end of the year, I still feel like
the four we broke down we're the big four ones
from this year. So we're gonna look ahead, We're gonna
look to the future and some positive things that well
(01:27):
maybe some of them, maybe some of them not, but
things that will be happening. Yeah, it's a mix, but
we're looking ahead to the future and you're gonna share
four things that we have to look forward to in
two But before we get into that, this week, we're
recording this on Monday, but it's going live on your
listening to this on a Thursday. But all this week
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we're heavily focused on tornado relief. Being that we're based
in Tennessee the Bobby Bones Show, we have tons of
listeners in Kentucky and Arkansas and surrounding areas where the
tornado hit. News is breaking at all times and we
rely on you to be that source. So how do
you find time to take a break when big things
are happening all the time. I try my best to
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create some semblance of balance. I know some people take
issue with the whole idea of work life balance, but
you know, ultimately, when it comes down to, you know,
running of a social media feed for news, you have
to understand that. I understand that I have become someone
that people rely on, so I have to stay attentive,
especially when major headlines are breaking. So when the tornado
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has broke out, you know, I happen to have done
some work for some weather programming and weather apps in
recent years, and weather has always been a fascination of mind,
so I tend to try to stay plugged in on
those issues. And I saw early Friday that we might
have some severe weather crossing the Midwest, and so I
was just trying to keep an eye on that as
I was, you know, eating dinner and with friends as
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to what was going on, and as I saw those
headlines break, you know, trying to take moments to ensure
that I'm passing along key information. Also, it's a it's
a real time thing. So I think midway through Friday night,
I was trying to show maps to folks, you know,
as we start to see reports of destruction in Arkansas,
that hey, we're not out of it yet. If you're
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in northern Kentucky, Indiana, Ohio, it's headed your way. I
don't think anyone quite saw how historic this storm would be.
That we have like a two D twenty miles swath
and they're still trying to look back and figure out
if this was one tornado. There are fifty tornado reports,
whether it was on the ground for two and a
half hours, whether they're multiple dornators. But this is a
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pretty unprecedented swath of destruction that storms have been able
to do to the region. Yeah. No, I mean there
was towns completely demolished and it's really wild if you've
looked at some of the images. Um, and just want
y'all to know that we currently have our whole Pimp
and Joy line, which we've talked about Pim and Joy
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a ton on the podcast, to talk about on the
Bobby Bone Show. But in a nutshell, it started with
my mom several years ago in her battle with cancer,
and it's a line of merch that is dedicated to
spreading joy to others because that's what my mom wanted
to do when she was going through her cancer journey
and we lost her in two thousand fourteen, and since then,
we've been able to donate over two million dollars to
various causes and this is part of that. Like we
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get to show up and when I say we, I
mean listeners and buy a piece of Pimp and Joy
and all proceeds go to whatever cause we're supporting at
the moment, which right now it's tornado relief. But if
you've ever had anything, it's really high quality stuff. I
feel like some people most might think, oh, a charity shirt,
it might be kind of cheap or whatever, but we
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really make sure that it's high quality stuff and we're
thorough with who were donating too, and we try to
stay on top of that just so that you can
ensure your money was well spent. But then you have
an item that reminds you because you can donate to
other causes like there's there you can donate blood if
you don't have money, or if you can donate time.
We talked to someone from Kentucky on the show the
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other day that's like, you know, they don't really want
a bunch of people flooding there to help, but that
what they really needed was funds. And so you know,
you can have a piece of merch or a hat
or beanie or shirt or a sweatshirt and you can
look down and know, oh, yeah, this went towards the
tornado relief and or some people were stuff, Oh this
went towards St. Jude, or this went to build a
home for a hero. You should do that. And I
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would say authorities right now say the most important thing
is to donate blood. There is a huge blood shortage
in the region. So if you can go ahead and
do that as part of aid, you can get to
the region. I know that that is extremely extremely important
right now when you talk to health officials. Come there
and I'll give you a couple of ways to get
to the Pimp and Joy merch. You can either hit
up Bobby Bones dot com or the shop forward dot
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com slash Pimp and Joy that will take you to
every item and again, all proceeds go towards tornado relief.
So most what do you have in store for us?
Come so we're ready to look ahead and put twenty
Funny one in the history books. I think there's a
few things that will continue as major news stories or
feel like they're continuing, but are things that are going
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to be crucial to look ahead to what you got
for us? Okay, So for the first thing, this is
atypical because of COVID, but we get our second Olympic
Games in six months. Typically you gotta wait two years
between your Summer Games and your Winter Games. While we
just had the Summer Games in Tokyo and coming up
in February, we have the Winter Olympic Games in Beijing.
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That's gonna be interesting on multiple levels. I guess a
little bit of politics there. You have the US and
several countries who are doing a diplomatic boycott of the Games,
meaning we're not sending leaders polical leaders to attend the Games,
but our athletes will still be competing, and so you
have a number of athletes to watch. I think there's
a lot of exciting American athletes and so that you know,
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I always love the Olympics. Maybe it gives you you know,
it's like the whole country could come together for something,
and it's so rare. It feels like these days for
all Americans to be able to get behind something. And
so watching MICHAELA Schiffrin, Nathan chen is a male figure
skater who's gonna have a chance to win a gold.
Shaun White is gonna be back for his fifth Olympic Games.
By the way, the other big sporting event next year
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is gonna be the World Cup, and you know that's
that's an opportunity. I know it's not as big in
the US but getting slightly bigger. But to the rest
of the world, there is nothing bigger than the World Cup. Oh.
I feel like ever since Ted Lasso, I think more
Americans are into football than you know before Ted Lasso.
I just generally speaking, I think more people might tune
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into the World Cup because of a TV show totally,
you know what, I was interesting by the way, It's
like I grew up playing soccer, Like I feel like
it's a thing that like a lot of kids do
from like age four to age eight or age nine,
but then like it never quite translated it to like
interest in like professional soccer. But maybe the ted Lasso
effect is a real thing for me personally. I never
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played soccer at all, but it makes me wish that
I had. Well, maybe too because my kids have gotten
into soccer, and my daughter really would probably appreciate more
insight at home or help and coaching. Like I try
to work with her and she's like, Mom, you have
no idea what you're doing. And I'm like, you're right,
I have no idea what I'm doing. I I played softball, basketball, tennis, track,
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what else could I work? Basketball? Volleyball? But I mean
I wasn't ever you know, a starter motion. I was
more second string. But I mean I played at all,
so I was diverse that didn't really excel at one
particular thing except for tennis. I won first place in
the Baby Acapulco tennis tournament and mentioned this before not
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going to brag. The Andy Roddick was at the same
tournament playing on the boys side, So had I not quit,
I'm just saying I don't know the potential I could
have had. Listen to Amy, I think that's a question
that a lot of us are asking is based on
that experience. Did you really miss your opportunity to become this,
you know, Olympic World Global act athlete? You know, I
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I don't know. And I watched King Richard. Have you
seen that yet? I have not? Most you have to
watch it. I did see the I Love Lucy movie
this weekend. Now in unrelated it's totally very different. I'm
talking about like my tennis career. King Richard is about
Venus and Serena Williams. And to go back to I
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guess your question too about did I miss my opportunity
to be an athlete at that level? And knowing the
amount of training they went through with their dad to
get to where they are, I was not even close.
So no, I just think I got lucky at a
tournament back in I've heard good things about that movie.
I know Will Smith plays their father, in it. Yeah,
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I will say your your experience writing the bench or
being a second string reminds me of my freshman year
of high school. I was a bencher, wrote the bench
on the high school soccer team and cracked the jokes
on the bench for you know, I played that role
on the team once in a while. If we're winning
up by a lot or losing by a lot, they
let me on the field. But you showed up and
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you're part of the team I did, which I think
is huge. And I think more and more people because
of ted Lasso, We're gonna be showing up to be
on teams. If kids were into I mean, I think
of how many people were Ted Lasso for Halloween online.
That's all you saw everywhere. I mean, it's a huge thing.
So all that to say, I feel like a lot
of people might start or started playing soccer because of
the show. Maybe even some adults joining some rec leagues
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or something. But I love Lucy. I haven't what's the
movie called. I know it's about her Lucy Ball, but
who plays her? So Nicole Kidman plays Lucy old Ball
and it's a phenomenal performance. Javier Bardem plays as Arnez
and I saw in the theaters over the weekend. It's
a Aaron Sorkin movie. It's called Being the Ricardo's. It
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was my first experience in a movie theater for two years, like,
I hadn't been back to the movie theater, So my
wife and I were very excited to go back to
the theater. For those who don't want to go or
can't go to movie theater, like, it'll be on Amazon Prime,
I think starting in late December, um as they to
release stuff on streaming pretty pretty quickly after theaters now.
But it effectively takes you into a week of the
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I Love Lucy Show and does the whole backstory. But
what it reveals is just what a producer Lucy old
Ball was and desi uh and and what type of
team they were, and like it made me want to
go back and watch old I Love Lucy episodes because
apparently they would get so intrigantly involved with every word
that was said, every movement on camera. They would argue
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with the directors. I mean it was their production company,
the Desilu production Company, so they broke round in so
many ways, and she did in particular for female actors
because until she is pregnant on television. All of the
networks decided that women could not be pregnant on TV.
We could not show pregnant women, we could not show
a birth, we could not say the word pregnant. They
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would hide pregnant actresses behind plants, or they would shot
block them in a way so you wouldn't see them pregnant.
And they're like, well, how will the audience, you know,
why would the audience think you're pregnant? Like you guys
sleep he beds. You're like, we'll move the bed together.
Like we can't move the bed together. That's inappropriate for television.
So it just takes you inside kind of where things
were during that time. And I thought it was a
fascinating movie. I'm gonna be watching that on Amazon Prime
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for sure. And then just to circle back to King Richard,
I'll let people know I know that was in theaters,
but I streamed it on HBO Max, so you can
also get it there if you're wanting to watch that
at home. And I watched that with my two kids
and it was inspiring to them, Like they were doing
push ups in the middle of the movie. They're like,
is it too late for us to be tennis stars.
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Probably that reminds me of watching Rocky as a kid.
I feel like I watched Rocky as a kid and
was like, I'm going to go on a run, Like
let me say, I should crack some eggs in the
glass and like drink ry eggs. And I was like, oh,
this is disgusting, but it's rational, all right, what's next? Okay,
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out for the second thing, technological breakthroughs. In the first thing,
as a fan of Armageddon of the movie from the
late nineties, is like, next September, we will find out
if we can actually divert an asteroid. NASA just launched
a rocket that they've aimed several million miles away at
an asteroid, which by the way, is not headed towards Earth,
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but they want to see if they can divert an asteroid.
So next September you will see live coverage of whether
a rocket will successfully divert an asteroid off of its path, which,
by the way, if we can figure out that technology,
that is like the biggest existential non human threat to
this planet. Like we do our own damage to this planet,
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but as far as like not being able to survive,
it's a potential asteroid or commented in the earth. So
that is a technological thing to look for in September.
Another big thing next year, the biggest plant in the
world will go online in Texas that will capture carbon
dioxide from the air and convert it carbodac. That is
the thing that is warming the planet, that is kind
of feeding climate change, and so if we can successfully
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develop that technology, that's huge. Another technology that will potentially
have a breakthrough next year vaccines for HIV and malaria.
So based on the m R and a technology that
Fiser and Maderna each used for the COVID nineteen vaccine,
they have made significant progress on both HIV and malaria,
which a millaria in particular, afflicts millions globally every year.
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So a vaccine we should see potentially fingers crossed a
major breakthrough and the millaria vaccine front. And then this
is a fun technology. Next year, two big companies are
going online with air Taxis like we're going to live
the jets and lifestyle apparently coming up soon, and so
air Texas the kind of like helicopters, but they are
a much more advanced technology with multiple electric propellers, much
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less energy, much more quiet, and it will begin what
they hope is a vision of a vision of the
future where you can take relatively cheap air taxis to
kind of pop between places and avoid clogged roads. That's crazy.
I saw that somewhere some big event going on they
were going to be offering air taxis, And now I
(15:12):
can't remember which one it was, but I was thinking, like,
do you know what it is? Yes, it's the it's
the next winter, it's the next Summer Olympics in Paris.
Their goal is to have air taxis readily available for folks.
I knew. I saw it somewhere and I thought, Okay,
this just seems scary to me, but I'm sure one
day it'll be the norm. But just yeah, I'm glad
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you said there's multiple propellers. I don't have helicopters in general.
Just freak me out. Oh, totally understandable in this case,
like you're looking at four to five rotors backup systems.
I mean, there were this like weird hybrid because you're like, well,
they're kind of like helicopters, but they like kind of
more shaped like cars. And there's a lot of a
lot of major companies working on the technology right now,
and so you know, I would hope that, as we've
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seen all types of vehicles and planes get safer over time,
this next general ration of air taxes will be much
safer than the current generation of helicopters. Okay, what else
are we looking out for next year? Okay? So the
third thing that I think is important to all of
us is the economy. We have seen record inflation in
recent months. We have you know, seen for the most
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part of recovery. But I think a lot of folks
listening to this will say, you know, my small business
is having trouble hiring folks, even though there has been
a recovery. What is going on there? And so looking
ahead to two, the big story of next year is
going to be the economy and our economic recovery. Will
inflation slow down? Will prices come down? We are seeing
good signs now in regards to gas prices. With a
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bunch of oil production recently, gas prices have started to
come down. Hopefully that continues through the winter. Inflation. You
see a whole range of predictions right now from major
financial banks and the government as far as when these
prices will start to normalize a bit. What inflation won't
be at six but be back down to a half
percent or one percent, And so that's gonna be a
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crucial thing to look at in the first half of
They are most of the predictions right now, or that
things should calm around the summer, But where will prices
get to between now and then, and will your wages
continue to go up along with that. We did see
wages finally go up post COVID employees and people saying
I'm not getting paid enough, and employers being forced to
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raise their wages. It didn't quite meet given where inflation went,
where prices went, So you might have gotten raised this year,
but it still doesn't feel like enough because when you
go to the grocery store, or you're paying your rent,
or you're buying a car, suddenly those prices just seem
even higher than you know how much you're making. And
so I think that that will be a huge thing
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to look for and where these markets go. We've seen
now the stock market go up for almost twelve years
straight since two thousand nine. That is unprecedented historically, folks,
and so I think that people should be cautious in
their optimism them. I know my friends, I don't know, Amy,
if you've been playing in crypto and bitcoin and ether
and all of these cryptocurrencies, but they're also huge ups
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and downs, and so I think the economy and economic
recovery will will be the big story of two now
that hopefully hopefully fingers crossed variants. Notwithstanding, for the most
part we feel post COVID, I just want to say
something regarding the cryptocurrency because I saw on the news
this one woman that had been completely duped by UM,
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someone that reached out to her an ad or something
she got on Instagram where she clicked on it, and
she thought she was legit making an investment, and they
were showing her spreadsheets or data that was showing her
that she was making money. And suddenly, after a few days,
she was up nine thousand dollars. And then they sent
her another note. And this woman, she's on the news.
She seemed very competent, like smart, knew what she was
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talking about, like you wouldn't picture her getting completely scammed
in this way. And they sent her a note saying,
now we just need hundred dollars. It's a one time
fee to transfer the nine thousand. You're still up though,
so she transferred them, and then she gets another note
and they're like, well, this is another thing with the
I R S, we're gonna need to pay to them.
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And then that's when kind of the red flags and
office she finally started talking to other people and asking
her family members and they're like, no, no, no, that's
not that's not right. But just saying that as a
friendly warning. As I don't know, people get more clever,
especially with all of this new currency type stuff you
where we don't know much about it, or I guess
I don't, and you feel like, oh, someone reaching out
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to you might be an expert and can invest on
your behalf, and it seems legit, so you do it,
and I just would proceed with cautions. Yeah. Generally speaking,
I think if you talked the most financial advisors, they
will say you shouldn't be investing any more than five
percent of your investments in cryptocurrencies. That's a general rule
of thumb. And by the way, that's the same number
they applied to like Vegas gambling, like they can they
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kind of view in the same category, which is like
you know, like once you've paid off your mortgages, once
you've paid off your loans, once you're paid off your debts,
once you have three to six months of money in
the bank in case something happens then and you've, by
the way maxed out your retirement plans. Once you've done
all of those things, how much money do you have
left over? That is your end. You obviously paid for food, etcetera.
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So go through that tick of like my debts, food, mortgages,
car payments, money for you know, gas, various budgeting that
you've done, three to six months of savings on the side.
Then you have your investment money. All that money five
crypto if that makes sense. And there are websites you
can turn to, like coin base, which are legitimate websites
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where you can do this sort of thing. So you're
telling me everybody in Vegas right now at the tables,
they have their mortgage paid off. But I would tell
them we could go table by table amy and be like,
have you've been paying your That's like no, But if
I went big on this next role, I will be
able to pay it all. And finally, the fourth thing,
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depending on how the economy goes next year, we'll play
a major role in our politics next year. Next year,
You know, guys, I had and then we had a
break sort of this year from politics. But unfortunately, our
elections work in America is we have midterm elections every
two years and they're coming up. So depending on how
the economy goes will play hugely into a politics. When
we speak amy this time next year making predictions for
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we will know the following things. Will Joe Biden be
running for re election? Will Donald Trump be trying again?
In Typically those calls are made between November and December
after that mid term cycle. I'm not going to get
political here, but in my head right now, I'm like,
or either one of those good options that is a discussion.
This country will be happening, like it just doesn't. I'm like,
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please tell me we you know, come up with you know,
two other people for both sides. There are actually dozens
and dozens of folks on both sides who would love
an opportunity to leave this country, all of them younger
than those two gentlemen. Unfortunately, given the nature of our politics,
one happens to be president. So everyone in the Democratic
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Party is deferential to Joe Biden his decision if he
decides not to run for re election, which by the way,
would be the first time in fifty years a president
doesn't run for re election, given by the way Biden
will be two when he runs for re election um.
And then Donald Trump is setting the table for a
potential run again, right, which also would be a historic thing.
And so a lot of Republicans are deferential to the
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former president. So that's going to be a key thing
we're gonna find out next year. And just before then,
we're gonna have at the midterm elections, which is determines
who runs Congress. Right now, Democrats have a majority in
the Senate and House, very slim majorities. Given where things
are going. If we were betting right now, speaking the
keeping the Vegas metaphor going, we would bet that Republicans
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would take the House and the Senate because as what
happens traditionally is who's ever in the White House loses
seats in Congress because people are like, well, you're in
the White House and we blame you for anything that happened. Now,
so let's give the other party a chance in Congress.
And so you're you know, facing the potential split government there.
And so if you already think they don't do much
in d C, they'll do even less if the other
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party wins Congress. So those are the two major plical
things to be looking at before next year. Okay, just
a quick side note on how you handle your Instagram
and well any kind of reporting on this topic, Like
how do you remain so level headed impartial? I feel
like I've switched different news outlets. I used to try
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to flip channels so that I got a diverse amount
of content because I feel like if I stayed on
one channel too long, I started to kind of get
in that little bubble and I'm like, oh, there's there's
a whole another world out there that I need to
hear about. But I recently also got into Newsy, which
I watch on my Amazon echo box, and that's the
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news I turn on it every morning when I'm getting ready.
Their tagline is like, we're here to inform you, not
influence you, or something like that, and I appreciate that,
but I feel like your account is the same. But
how do you keep from sharing sometimes if you're particularly
passionate about something, or like getting any bias or anything
like that. I try my best, you know, listen, at
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the end of the day, all human beings have assemblance
of bias. Right, We're all biased in some way. We're
all biased by our upbringing, by our background, by where
we live, by by our faith, by our gender, by
all of these things. I've always found it a priority
as a journalist just put the facts forward. You know,
I know that that doesn't necessarily promote ratings, especially in
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the cable news world that we live on, that people
live in ultimately right now, networks are rewarded for opinion programming.
When straight news programming comes on, people tend to tune out.
And that's despite the fact amy that you and I
and so many outs that so many folks out there
are like, oh I want is just the facts? Well,
people vote with their remotes, so to speak, and any
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show that just six of the facts and doesn't have
opinion tends to not do well, especially in cable news.
But by the way, cable news much older demographic. The
average view or of a cable news network is between
sixty to seventy, meaning more than half of cable news
viewers are over the age of seventy. So it's a
completely different demographic. Those folks are looking for a different
type of you know, programming. So what I try to
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do with my feet is just like, this is what
they're saying. This is what the other side is saying.
If I see a blatant lion there or a blatant
attempt to kind of miss characterize something, I will call
that out, but not in a way that like, you know,
these guys are blah bla, you know, like with my opinion,
but just like, hey, despite what they're saying in two
thousand fourteen, what actually happened was blank have added, folks, like,
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whatever you want to make of that, you can make
of that. So I try my best. And by the way,
I do appreciate that folks will follow me on Instagram
will sometimes be like, hey, I noticed that you used
this word to describe that, Like that made it seem
more biased in this direction. I was like, okay, I
appreciate that feedback in some cases, like you have a
good point in some cases like what else? What is
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the alternative here? And so I think it's a good
way for people to check their own biases at times, uh,
to to read what the other side might be saying
about something. Well, most thank you for sharing with us
for things to look forward to next year. And I
know something that you're heavily following. Right now as we're recording,
this is the Maxwell trial. And I don't know if
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any of you listening right now followed any of the
Epstein stuff. A few years ago. I listened to the
podcast and then watched a documentary and then was like totally,
I don't know, fascinated by the story and that something
like that even went on for as long as it did.
It just seems so crazy to me, sort of like
have you seen dope sick? I have not seen it,
(27:04):
but I've heard about it. There's a couple of different
If you google dopes, multiple things might come up. But
the one I'm talking about is a scripted show with
Michael Keaton on Hulu. There's I don't know, eight episodes maybe,
but it is a scripted show that is basically re
enacting the true story of Produe Pharma and their distribution
(27:26):
of oxy cotton and what they did to basically get
it in so many people's hands that it should never
have been in. And I don't want to give too
much away here, but I bring that up even with
the Epstein stuff, because these are just wild news stories
where things are going on and then high level people
are involved. And people that we elect, people that we trust,
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people that are in positions where you think, oh, sure,
this person is supposed to be taking care of us,
and it's just so corrupt and crazy and cover ups
and all kinds of things. So, you know, real feel
good stuff. I'd love that more positive note. I mean, well,
hopefully the the trial ends on a more positive note.
You know, she is Jeffrey Epstein's from her girl friend.
(28:07):
She faces six counts on federal trial. It looks like
this trial will wrap up just for the new year,
and ultimately what prosecutors are trying to get her on
is that she facilitated the exploitation by Jeffrey. But to
your point, Amy, for the better part of two decades
this was going on and not in some rural place
in Palm Beach, Florida, and you know, under the nose
(28:31):
of local authorities there there were raids going back to
two thousand two of his place. He eventually served a
brief time in prison but never got federal charges and
then kind of continued that. And at the same time,
there's a whole bunch of famous names. I know. One
of the things people are looking for in this trial was,
like I want to know everyone who was there at
this house. Well, that's not really the core of this trial.
(28:52):
This trial is more about what did she do? When
can they convict her? But at the same time, we
have seen a bunch of names come out in the trial,
everyone from Prince Andrew, you know, Prince Charles's younger brother,
Donald Trump, Bill Clinton, Alan Derschwitz, a whole bunch of folks,
none who have been accused in this trial of any wrongdoing,
but nonetheless, these were some of the people around Jeffrey
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Epstein and Gallen Maxwell as these crimes were being committed.
And just something to keep in mind because it is
it's a it's something that happened, Yes in our lifetime.
Some of the stuff seems so wild, and it's like
there's just people like Maxwell where she was. She was
essentially a groomer, and I mean, wouldn't you categorize her
as that? That's what the prosecutors are basically saying that
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she did. They brought an expert on grooming and they said,
you know that she basically would greet these girls, meet
these girls and groom them, you know, effectively, you know,
make them comfortable, befriend them, and deliver them to Jeffrey.
It's just something to be aware of because it could
happen to well, you, possibly it could happen to a
best friend, it could happen to a loved one, a daughter.
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I just encourage you if you are interested in sometimes
like some of these stories that you feel guilty for
being so invested because people's lives have been ruined. But
I think it's good to be aware of what people
are capable of and what you need to do to
protect yourself and your children too, even from because a
lot of these girls were young girls, young girls, and
(30:20):
and and one of the accusers who testified last week
said that she was fourteen at summer camp literally eating
an ice cream cone when Jeffrey Epstein and Glenne Maxwell
first came up to her. Now, I will say that
hearing some of these backstories of some of these girls,
they unfortunately this was you know that some came from
a background with their previously abuse, Some came from a
background with the parents were really not readily plugged in
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or even available or caring for them. And so that's
an important thing that you know to consider here as
we're talking about these stories. Well, I appreciate you motion
so much. And again we were talking about this trial
because he's covering a lot of that right now, and
you can stay up to speed there and then make
sure you're following him for all other things. But I
hope you do get to take a little break over
(31:04):
the holidays. And again, his instagram is m O S
H e H and he does all kinds of lives
and different chats and interviews and so anyway, great follow
is always an amazing guest. Thank you, Amy, Merry Christmas,
Happy New Year, and look forward to UH reconnecting in
the new year.
Okay, rope, A little food for you so life. Oh
it's pretty Bay, It's pretty beautiful. Thanks laughs, A little
(00:23):
month sight use you're kicking with four Happy Thursday, Welcome
to Four Things. My guest today is a returning guest
from the news world. I call him Mosh, but Mosha
what others call you? Well, my mother named me mosha.
(00:45):
One who knew. Last name is one who knew. But
to make it easy, I friends, family, acquaintances, colleagues, I'll
call me Mosh. There you go, And on Instagram you
can find him at m O s h e H.
And he is one of the best, if not my
my personal favorite on Instagram to follow when it comes
(01:06):
getting updates of what's going on around the world. And
you're on a few months ago and we were talking
about some big headlines from this year, four of them.
Since it's the Four Things podcast, and now that we're
towards the end of the year, I still feel like
the four we broke down we're the big four ones
from this year. So we're gonna look ahead, We're gonna
look to the future and some positive things that well
(01:27):
maybe some of them, maybe some of them not, but
things that will be happening. Yeah, it's a mix, but
we're looking ahead to the future and you're gonna share
four things that we have to look forward to in
two But before we get into that, this week, we're
recording this on Monday, but it's going live on your
listening to this on a Thursday. But all this week
(01:47):
we're heavily focused on tornado relief. Being that we're based
in Tennessee the Bobby Bones Show, we have tons of
listeners in Kentucky and Arkansas and surrounding areas where the
tornado hit. News is breaking at all times and we
rely on you to be that source. So how do
you find time to take a break when big things
are happening all the time. I try my best to
(02:09):
create some semblance of balance. I know some people take
issue with the whole idea of work life balance, but
you know, ultimately, when it comes down to, you know,
running of a social media feed for news, you have
to understand that. I understand that I have become someone
that people rely on, so I have to stay attentive,
especially when major headlines are breaking. So when the tornado
(02:31):
has broke out, you know, I happen to have done
some work for some weather programming and weather apps in
recent years, and weather has always been a fascination of mind,
so I tend to try to stay plugged in on
those issues. And I saw early Friday that we might
have some severe weather crossing the Midwest, and so I
was just trying to keep an eye on that as
I was, you know, eating dinner and with friends as
(02:54):
to what was going on, and as I saw those
headlines break, you know, trying to take moments to ensure
that I'm passing along key information. Also, it's a it's
a real time thing. So I think midway through Friday night,
I was trying to show maps to folks, you know,
as we start to see reports of destruction in Arkansas,
that hey, we're not out of it yet. If you're
(03:15):
in northern Kentucky, Indiana, Ohio, it's headed your way. I
don't think anyone quite saw how historic this storm would be.
That we have like a two D twenty miles swath
and they're still trying to look back and figure out
if this was one tornado. There are fifty tornado reports,
whether it was on the ground for two and a
half hours, whether they're multiple dornators. But this is a
(03:36):
pretty unprecedented swath of destruction that storms have been able
to do to the region. Yeah. No, I mean there
was towns completely demolished and it's really wild if you've
looked at some of the images. Um, and just want
y'all to know that we currently have our whole Pimp
and Joy line, which we've talked about Pim and Joy
(03:57):
a ton on the podcast, to talk about on the
Bobby Bone Show. But in a nutshell, it started with
my mom several years ago in her battle with cancer,
and it's a line of merch that is dedicated to
spreading joy to others because that's what my mom wanted
to do when she was going through her cancer journey
and we lost her in two thousand fourteen, and since then,
we've been able to donate over two million dollars to
various causes and this is part of that. Like we
(04:21):
get to show up and when I say we, I
mean listeners and buy a piece of Pimp and Joy
and all proceeds go to whatever cause we're supporting at
the moment, which right now it's tornado relief. But if
you've ever had anything, it's really high quality stuff. I
feel like some people most might think, oh, a charity shirt,
it might be kind of cheap or whatever, but we
(04:43):
really make sure that it's high quality stuff and we're
thorough with who were donating too, and we try to
stay on top of that just so that you can
ensure your money was well spent. But then you have
an item that reminds you because you can donate to
other causes like there's there you can donate blood if
you don't have money, or if you can donate time.
We talked to someone from Kentucky on the show the
(05:03):
other day that's like, you know, they don't really want
a bunch of people flooding there to help, but that
what they really needed was funds. And so you know,
you can have a piece of merch or a hat
or beanie or shirt or a sweatshirt and you can
look down and know, oh, yeah, this went towards the
tornado relief and or some people were stuff, Oh this
went towards St. Jude, or this went to build a
home for a hero. You should do that. And I
(05:26):
would say authorities right now say the most important thing
is to donate blood. There is a huge blood shortage
in the region. So if you can go ahead and
do that as part of aid, you can get to
the region. I know that that is extremely extremely important
right now when you talk to health officials. Come there
and I'll give you a couple of ways to get
to the Pimp and Joy merch. You can either hit
up Bobby Bones dot com or the shop forward dot
(05:47):
com slash Pimp and Joy that will take you to
every item and again, all proceeds go towards tornado relief.
So most what do you have in store for us?
Come so we're ready to look ahead and put twenty
Funny one in the history books. I think there's a
few things that will continue as major news stories or
feel like they're continuing, but are things that are going
(06:09):
to be crucial to look ahead to what you got
for us? Okay, So for the first thing, this is
atypical because of COVID, but we get our second Olympic
Games in six months. Typically you gotta wait two years
between your Summer Games and your Winter Games. While we
just had the Summer Games in Tokyo and coming up
in February, we have the Winter Olympic Games in Beijing.
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That's gonna be interesting on multiple levels. I guess a
little bit of politics there. You have the US and
several countries who are doing a diplomatic boycott of the Games,
meaning we're not sending leaders polical leaders to attend the Games,
but our athletes will still be competing, and so you
have a number of athletes to watch. I think there's
a lot of exciting American athletes and so that you know,
(06:50):
I always love the Olympics. Maybe it gives you you know,
it's like the whole country could come together for something,
and it's so rare. It feels like these days for
all Americans to be able to get behind something. And
so watching MICHAELA Schiffrin, Nathan chen is a male figure
skater who's gonna have a chance to win a gold.
Shaun White is gonna be back for his fifth Olympic Games.
By the way, the other big sporting event next year
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is gonna be the World Cup, and you know that's
that's an opportunity. I know it's not as big in
the US but getting slightly bigger. But to the rest
of the world, there is nothing bigger than the World Cup. Oh.
I feel like ever since Ted Lasso, I think more
Americans are into football than you know before Ted Lasso.
I just generally speaking, I think more people might tune
(07:33):
into the World Cup because of a TV show totally,
you know what, I was interesting by the way, It's
like I grew up playing soccer, Like I feel like
it's a thing that like a lot of kids do
from like age four to age eight or age nine,
but then like it never quite translated it to like
interest in like professional soccer. But maybe the ted Lasso
effect is a real thing for me personally. I never
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played soccer at all, but it makes me wish that
I had. Well, maybe too because my kids have gotten
into soccer, and my daughter really would probably appreciate more
insight at home or help and coaching. Like I try
to work with her and she's like, Mom, you have
no idea what you're doing. And I'm like, you're right,
I have no idea what I'm doing. I I played softball, basketball, tennis, track,
(08:20):
what else could I work? Basketball? Volleyball? But I mean
I wasn't ever you know, a starter motion. I was
more second string. But I mean I played at all,
so I was diverse that didn't really excel at one
particular thing except for tennis. I won first place in
the Baby Acapulco tennis tournament and mentioned this before not
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going to brag. The Andy Roddick was at the same
tournament playing on the boys side, So had I not quit,
I'm just saying I don't know the potential I could
have had. Listen to Amy, I think that's a question
that a lot of us are asking is based on
that experience. Did you really miss your opportunity to become this,
you know, Olympic World Global act athlete? You know, I
(09:01):
I don't know. And I watched King Richard. Have you
seen that yet? I have not? Most you have to
watch it. I did see the I Love Lucy movie
this weekend. Now in unrelated it's totally very different. I'm
talking about like my tennis career. King Richard is about
Venus and Serena Williams. And to go back to I
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guess your question too about did I miss my opportunity
to be an athlete at that level? And knowing the
amount of training they went through with their dad to
get to where they are, I was not even close.
So no, I just think I got lucky at a
tournament back in I've heard good things about that movie.
I know Will Smith plays their father, in it. Yeah,
(09:43):
I will say your your experience writing the bench or
being a second string reminds me of my freshman year
of high school. I was a bencher, wrote the bench
on the high school soccer team and cracked the jokes
on the bench for you know, I played that role
on the team once in a while. If we're winning
up by a lot or losing by a lot, they
let me on the field. But you showed up and
(10:03):
you're part of the team I did, which I think
is huge. And I think more and more people because
of ted Lasso, We're gonna be showing up to be
on teams. If kids were into I mean, I think
of how many people were Ted Lasso for Halloween online.
That's all you saw everywhere. I mean, it's a huge thing.
So all that to say, I feel like a lot
of people might start or started playing soccer because of
the show. Maybe even some adults joining some rec leagues
(10:25):
or something. But I love Lucy. I haven't what's the
movie called. I know it's about her Lucy Ball, but
who plays her? So Nicole Kidman plays Lucy old Ball
and it's a phenomenal performance. Javier Bardem plays as Arnez
and I saw in the theaters over the weekend. It's
a Aaron Sorkin movie. It's called Being the Ricardo's. It
(10:46):
was my first experience in a movie theater for two years, like,
I hadn't been back to the movie theater, So my
wife and I were very excited to go back to
the theater. For those who don't want to go or
can't go to movie theater, like, it'll be on Amazon Prime,
I think starting in late December, um as they to
release stuff on streaming pretty pretty quickly after theaters now.
But it effectively takes you into a week of the
(11:07):
I Love Lucy Show and does the whole backstory. But
what it reveals is just what a producer Lucy old
Ball was and desi uh and and what type of
team they were, and like it made me want to
go back and watch old I Love Lucy episodes because
apparently they would get so intrigantly involved with every word
that was said, every movement on camera. They would argue
(11:29):
with the directors. I mean it was their production company,
the Desilu production Company, so they broke round in so
many ways, and she did in particular for female actors
because until she is pregnant on television. All of the
networks decided that women could not be pregnant on TV.
We could not show pregnant women, we could not show
a birth, we could not say the word pregnant. They
(11:50):
would hide pregnant actresses behind plants, or they would shot
block them in a way so you wouldn't see them pregnant.
And they're like, well, how will the audience, you know,
why would the audience think you're pregnant? Like you guys
sleep he beds. You're like, we'll move the bed together.
Like we can't move the bed together. That's inappropriate for television.
So it just takes you inside kind of where things
were during that time. And I thought it was a
fascinating movie. I'm gonna be watching that on Amazon Prime
(12:12):
for sure. And then just to circle back to King Richard,
I'll let people know I know that was in theaters,
but I streamed it on HBO Max, so you can
also get it there if you're wanting to watch that
at home. And I watched that with my two kids
and it was inspiring to them, Like they were doing
push ups in the middle of the movie. They're like,
is it too late for us to be tennis stars.
(12:32):
Probably that reminds me of watching Rocky as a kid.
I feel like I watched Rocky as a kid and
was like, I'm going to go on a run, Like
let me say, I should crack some eggs in the
glass and like drink ry eggs. And I was like, oh,
this is disgusting, but it's rational, all right, what's next? Okay,
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out for the second thing, technological breakthroughs. In the first thing,
as a fan of Armageddon of the movie from the
late nineties, is like, next September, we will find out
if we can actually divert an asteroid. NASA just launched
a rocket that they've aimed several million miles away at
an asteroid, which by the way, is not headed towards Earth,
(13:22):
but they want to see if they can divert an asteroid.
So next September you will see live coverage of whether
a rocket will successfully divert an asteroid off of its path, which,
by the way, if we can figure out that technology,
that is like the biggest existential non human threat to
this planet. Like we do our own damage to this planet,
(13:43):
but as far as like not being able to survive,
it's a potential asteroid or commented in the earth. So
that is a technological thing to look for in September.
Another big thing next year, the biggest plant in the
world will go online in Texas that will capture carbon
dioxide from the air and convert it carbodac. That is
the thing that is warming the planet, that is kind
of feeding climate change, and so if we can successfully
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develop that technology, that's huge. Another technology that will potentially
have a breakthrough next year vaccines for HIV and malaria.
So based on the m R and a technology that
Fiser and Maderna each used for the COVID nineteen vaccine,
they have made significant progress on both HIV and malaria,
which a millaria in particular, afflicts millions globally every year.
(14:29):
So a vaccine we should see potentially fingers crossed a
major breakthrough and the millaria vaccine front. And then this
is a fun technology. Next year, two big companies are
going online with air Taxis like we're going to live
the jets and lifestyle apparently coming up soon, and so
air Texas the kind of like helicopters, but they are
a much more advanced technology with multiple electric propellers, much
(14:51):
less energy, much more quiet, and it will begin what
they hope is a vision of a vision of the
future where you can take relatively cheap air taxis to
kind of pop between places and avoid clogged roads. That's crazy.
I saw that somewhere some big event going on they
were going to be offering air taxis, And now I
(15:12):
can't remember which one it was, but I was thinking, like,
do you know what it is? Yes, it's the it's
the next winter, it's the next Summer Olympics in Paris.
Their goal is to have air taxis readily available for folks.
I knew. I saw it somewhere and I thought, Okay,
this just seems scary to me, but I'm sure one
day it'll be the norm. But just yeah, I'm glad
(15:33):
you said there's multiple propellers. I don't have helicopters in general.
Just freak me out. Oh, totally understandable in this case,
like you're looking at four to five rotors backup systems.
I mean, there were this like weird hybrid because you're like, well,
they're kind of like helicopters, but they like kind of
more shaped like cars. And there's a lot of a
lot of major companies working on the technology right now,
and so you know, I would hope that, as we've
(15:55):
seen all types of vehicles and planes get safer over time,
this next general ration of air taxes will be much
safer than the current generation of helicopters. Okay, what else
are we looking out for next year? Okay? So the
third thing that I think is important to all of
us is the economy. We have seen record inflation in
recent months. We have you know, seen for the most
(16:18):
part of recovery. But I think a lot of folks
listening to this will say, you know, my small business
is having trouble hiring folks, even though there has been
a recovery. What is going on there? And so looking
ahead to two, the big story of next year is
going to be the economy and our economic recovery. Will
inflation slow down? Will prices come down? We are seeing
good signs now in regards to gas prices. With a
(16:41):
bunch of oil production recently, gas prices have started to
come down. Hopefully that continues through the winter. Inflation. You
see a whole range of predictions right now from major
financial banks and the government as far as when these
prices will start to normalize a bit. What inflation won't
be at six but be back down to a half
percent or one percent, And so that's gonna be a
(17:02):
crucial thing to look at in the first half of
They are most of the predictions right now, or that
things should calm around the summer, But where will prices
get to between now and then, and will your wages
continue to go up along with that. We did see
wages finally go up post COVID employees and people saying
I'm not getting paid enough, and employers being forced to
(17:24):
raise their wages. It didn't quite meet given where inflation went,
where prices went, So you might have gotten raised this year,
but it still doesn't feel like enough because when you
go to the grocery store, or you're paying your rent,
or you're buying a car, suddenly those prices just seem
even higher than you know how much you're making. And
so I think that that will be a huge thing
(17:47):
to look for and where these markets go. We've seen
now the stock market go up for almost twelve years
straight since two thousand nine. That is unprecedented historically, folks,
and so I think that people should be cautious in
their optimism them. I know my friends, I don't know, Amy,
if you've been playing in crypto and bitcoin and ether
and all of these cryptocurrencies, but they're also huge ups
(18:09):
and downs, and so I think the economy and economic
recovery will will be the big story of two now
that hopefully hopefully fingers crossed variants. Notwithstanding, for the most
part we feel post COVID, I just want to say
something regarding the cryptocurrency because I saw on the news
this one woman that had been completely duped by UM,
(18:30):
someone that reached out to her an ad or something
she got on Instagram where she clicked on it, and
she thought she was legit making an investment, and they
were showing her spreadsheets or data that was showing her
that she was making money. And suddenly, after a few days,
she was up nine thousand dollars. And then they sent
her another note. And this woman, she's on the news.
She seemed very competent, like smart, knew what she was
(18:52):
talking about, like you wouldn't picture her getting completely scammed
in this way. And they sent her a note saying,
now we just need hundred dollars. It's a one time
fee to transfer the nine thousand. You're still up though,
so she transferred them, and then she gets another note
and they're like, well, this is another thing with the
I R S, we're gonna need to pay to them.
(19:16):
And then that's when kind of the red flags and
office she finally started talking to other people and asking
her family members and they're like, no, no, no, that's
not that's not right. But just saying that as a
friendly warning. As I don't know, people get more clever,
especially with all of this new currency type stuff you
where we don't know much about it, or I guess
I don't, and you feel like, oh, someone reaching out
(19:38):
to you might be an expert and can invest on
your behalf, and it seems legit, so you do it,
and I just would proceed with cautions. Yeah. Generally speaking,
I think if you talked the most financial advisors, they
will say you shouldn't be investing any more than five
percent of your investments in cryptocurrencies. That's a general rule
of thumb. And by the way, that's the same number
they applied to like Vegas gambling, like they can they
(20:00):
kind of view in the same category, which is like
you know, like once you've paid off your mortgages, once
you've paid off your loans, once you're paid off your debts,
once you have three to six months of money in
the bank in case something happens then and you've, by
the way maxed out your retirement plans. Once you've done
all of those things, how much money do you have
left over? That is your end. You obviously paid for food, etcetera.
(20:23):
So go through that tick of like my debts, food, mortgages,
car payments, money for you know, gas, various budgeting that
you've done, three to six months of savings on the side.
Then you have your investment money. All that money five
crypto if that makes sense. And there are websites you
can turn to, like coin base, which are legitimate websites
(20:45):
where you can do this sort of thing. So you're
telling me everybody in Vegas right now at the tables,
they have their mortgage paid off. But I would tell
them we could go table by table amy and be like,
have you've been paying your That's like no, But if
I went big on this next role, I will be
able to pay it all. And finally, the fourth thing,
(21:16):
depending on how the economy goes next year, we'll play
a major role in our politics next year. Next year,
You know, guys, I had and then we had a
break sort of this year from politics. But unfortunately, our
elections work in America is we have midterm elections every
two years and they're coming up. So depending on how
the economy goes will play hugely into a politics. When
we speak amy this time next year making predictions for
(21:41):
we will know the following things. Will Joe Biden be
running for re election? Will Donald Trump be trying again?
In Typically those calls are made between November and December
after that mid term cycle. I'm not going to get
political here, but in my head right now, I'm like,
or either one of those good options that is a discussion.
This country will be happening, like it just doesn't. I'm like,
(22:04):
please tell me we you know, come up with you know,
two other people for both sides. There are actually dozens
and dozens of folks on both sides who would love
an opportunity to leave this country, all of them younger
than those two gentlemen. Unfortunately, given the nature of our politics,
one happens to be president. So everyone in the Democratic
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Party is deferential to Joe Biden his decision if he
decides not to run for re election, which by the way,
would be the first time in fifty years a president
doesn't run for re election, given by the way Biden
will be two when he runs for re election um.
And then Donald Trump is setting the table for a
potential run again, right, which also would be a historic thing.
And so a lot of Republicans are deferential to the
(22:45):
former president. So that's going to be a key thing
we're gonna find out next year. And just before then,
we're gonna have at the midterm elections, which is determines
who runs Congress. Right now, Democrats have a majority in
the Senate and House, very slim majorities. Given where things
are going. If we were betting right now, speaking the
keeping the Vegas metaphor going, we would bet that Republicans
(23:06):
would take the House and the Senate because as what
happens traditionally is who's ever in the White House loses
seats in Congress because people are like, well, you're in
the White House and we blame you for anything that happened. Now,
so let's give the other party a chance in Congress.
And so you're you know, facing the potential split government there.
And so if you already think they don't do much
in d C, they'll do even less if the other
(23:28):
party wins Congress. So those are the two major plical
things to be looking at before next year. Okay, just
a quick side note on how you handle your Instagram
and well any kind of reporting on this topic, Like
how do you remain so level headed impartial? I feel
like I've switched different news outlets. I used to try
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to flip channels so that I got a diverse amount
of content because I feel like if I stayed on
one channel too long, I started to kind of get
in that little bubble and I'm like, oh, there's there's
a whole another world out there that I need to
hear about. But I recently also got into Newsy, which
I watch on my Amazon echo box, and that's the
(24:12):
news I turn on it every morning when I'm getting ready.
Their tagline is like, we're here to inform you, not
influence you, or something like that, and I appreciate that,
but I feel like your account is the same. But
how do you keep from sharing sometimes if you're particularly
passionate about something, or like getting any bias or anything
like that. I try my best, you know, listen, at
(24:34):
the end of the day, all human beings have assemblance
of bias. Right, We're all biased in some way. We're
all biased by our upbringing, by our background, by where
we live, by by our faith, by our gender, by
all of these things. I've always found it a priority
as a journalist just put the facts forward. You know,
I know that that doesn't necessarily promote ratings, especially in
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the cable news world that we live on, that people
live in ultimately right now, networks are rewarded for opinion programming.
When straight news programming comes on, people tend to tune out.
And that's despite the fact amy that you and I
and so many outs that so many folks out there
are like, oh I want is just the facts? Well,
people vote with their remotes, so to speak, and any
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show that just six of the facts and doesn't have
opinion tends to not do well, especially in cable news.
But by the way, cable news much older demographic. The
average view or of a cable news network is between
sixty to seventy, meaning more than half of cable news
viewers are over the age of seventy. So it's a
completely different demographic. Those folks are looking for a different
type of you know, programming. So what I try to
(25:35):
do with my feet is just like, this is what
they're saying. This is what the other side is saying.
If I see a blatant lion there or a blatant
attempt to kind of miss characterize something, I will call
that out, but not in a way that like, you know,
these guys are blah bla, you know, like with my opinion,
but just like, hey, despite what they're saying in two
thousand fourteen, what actually happened was blank have added, folks, like,
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whatever you want to make of that, you can make
of that. So I try my best. And by the way,
I do appreciate that folks will follow me on Instagram
will sometimes be like, hey, I noticed that you used
this word to describe that, Like that made it seem
more biased in this direction. I was like, okay, I
appreciate that feedback in some cases, like you have a
good point in some cases like what else? What is
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the alternative here? And so I think it's a good
way for people to check their own biases at times, uh,
to to read what the other side might be saying
about something. Well, most thank you for sharing with us
for things to look forward to next year. And I
know something that you're heavily following. Right now as we're recording,
this is the Maxwell trial. And I don't know if
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any of you listening right now followed any of the
Epstein stuff. A few years ago. I listened to the
podcast and then watched a documentary and then was like totally,
I don't know, fascinated by the story and that something
like that even went on for as long as it did.
It just seems so crazy to me, sort of like
have you seen dope sick? I have not seen it,
(27:04):
but I've heard about it. There's a couple of different
If you google dopes, multiple things might come up. But
the one I'm talking about is a scripted show with
Michael Keaton on Hulu. There's I don't know, eight episodes maybe,
but it is a scripted show that is basically re
enacting the true story of Produe Pharma and their distribution
(27:26):
of oxy cotton and what they did to basically get
it in so many people's hands that it should never
have been in. And I don't want to give too
much away here, but I bring that up even with
the Epstein stuff, because these are just wild news stories
where things are going on and then high level people
are involved. And people that we elect, people that we trust,
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people that are in positions where you think, oh, sure,
this person is supposed to be taking care of us,
and it's just so corrupt and crazy and cover ups
and all kinds of things. So, you know, real feel
good stuff. I'd love that more positive note. I mean, well,
hopefully the the trial ends on a more positive note.
You know, she is Jeffrey Epstein's from her girl friend.
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She faces six counts on federal trial. It looks like
this trial will wrap up just for the new year,
and ultimately what prosecutors are trying to get her on
is that she facilitated the exploitation by Jeffrey. But to
your point, Amy, for the better part of two decades
this was going on and not in some rural place
in Palm Beach, Florida, and you know, under the nose
(28:31):
of local authorities there there were raids going back to
two thousand two of his place. He eventually served a
brief time in prison but never got federal charges and
then kind of continued that. And at the same time,
there's a whole bunch of famous names. I know. One
of the things people are looking for in this trial was,
like I want to know everyone who was there at
this house. Well, that's not really the core of this trial.
(28:52):
This trial is more about what did she do? When
can they convict her? But at the same time, we
have seen a bunch of names come out in the trial,
everyone from Prince Andrew, you know, Prince Charles's younger brother,
Donald Trump, Bill Clinton, Alan Derschwitz, a whole bunch of folks,
none who have been accused in this trial of any wrongdoing,
but nonetheless, these were some of the people around Jeffrey
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Epstein and Gallen Maxwell as these crimes were being committed.
And just something to keep in mind because it is
it's a it's something that happened, Yes in our lifetime.
Some of the stuff seems so wild, and it's like
there's just people like Maxwell where she was. She was
essentially a groomer, and I mean, wouldn't you categorize her
as that? That's what the prosecutors are basically saying that
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she did. They brought an expert on grooming and they said,
you know that she basically would greet these girls, meet
these girls and groom them, you know, effectively, you know,
make them comfortable, befriend them, and deliver them to Jeffrey.
It's just something to be aware of because it could
happen to well, you, possibly it could happen to a
best friend, it could happen to a loved one, a daughter.
(30:00):
I just encourage you if you are interested in sometimes
like some of these stories that you feel guilty for
being so invested because people's lives have been ruined. But
I think it's good to be aware of what people
are capable of and what you need to do to
protect yourself and your children too, even from because a
lot of these girls were young girls, young girls, and
(30:20):
and and one of the accusers who testified last week
said that she was fourteen at summer camp literally eating
an ice cream cone when Jeffrey Epstein and Glenne Maxwell
first came up to her. Now, I will say that
hearing some of these backstories of some of these girls,
they unfortunately this was you know that some came from
a background with their previously abuse, Some came from a
background with the parents were really not readily plugged in
(30:42):
or even available or caring for them. And so that's
an important thing that you know to consider here as
we're talking about these stories. Well, I appreciate you motion
so much. And again we were talking about this trial
because he's covering a lot of that right now, and
you can stay up to speed there and then make
sure you're following him for all other things. But I
hope you do get to take a little break over
(31:04):
the holidays. And again, his instagram is m O S
H e H and he does all kinds of lives
and different chats and interviews and so anyway, great follow
is always an amazing guest. Thank you, Amy, Merry Christmas,
Happy New Year, and look forward to UH reconnecting in
the new year.
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