February 8, 2022 • 29 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Happy Tuesday. Welcome to the Fifth Thing with Amy and
cat Hi. Today's quote is from Dr Becky good Inside
and I posted this quote this weekend on Instagram at
Radio Amy if you want to see it there, but
I originally saw Dr Becky good Inside. That's her handle,
Becky Kennedy. She's amazing. She has all the parenting tips
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in the world. I love watching her videos or just
reading her post. And she put up the slide that
said make this your mantra today, and that's our quote
for today because I feel like, even if you don't
have kids, this could apply to anything in your life
that you might be working at. And she said, this
feels hard because it is hard, not because I'm doing
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something wrong. That's your mantra. This feels hard because it
is hard, not because I'm doing something wrong. I'm obsessed
with this because I'm trying to think of when I
am doing something that's that's hard, what I say myself,
like I'm not good at this, or I'm missing something,
or what am I doing wrong? Am I doing wrong? Yes,
when it's like no, it's just a hard thing you're doing. Yeah,
(01:08):
it's it's difficult, and that we should have compassion on
ourselves and it's not impossible, and we can keep going
and we will get through it. But parenting, it does
not mess around. Like parenting is hard. Relationships are hard.
Sometimes different life challenges are hard. So wherever this quote
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hits you, just let it sit with you for a
second and remember it. Keep it in your back pocket
for anything you encounter where it's like, unless, of course
you actually are doing something wrong, then I will say.
I was having a conversation with somebody for You Need
Therapy podcast yesterday, and this makes me think of what
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she said. We were talking about discomfort and Wiley why
we don't like it, and she said the weird thing
about discomfort, which to me, when things are hard that's uncomfortable,
is she goes the things that we want are always
on the other side of discomfort. So too, that's like,
if something feels hard and you're uncomfortable with that, it's
probably because you're working or doing something that you care about. Yeah. Also,
(02:15):
this makes me think of boundaries, and boundaries are so hard,
and often times boundaries are difficult for us to put
in place, but then they're also difficult for the people
that might be affected by our boundaries and that doesn't
mean we're doing anything wrong. So this quote just has
all kinds of goodness in it. I actually even put
it in my four Things Gratitude journal, like times four.
(02:36):
I just took up the whole page one through four
and wrote it and put times four because I'm so
thankful for that quote. I also saw on Instagram from
this other parenting person that I follow, Mary van Geffen.
That's her handle, Mary van Geffen. I don't even know
how I found her, but she's a parenting coach. Her
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Instagram bio actually says parenting coach for Spicy Ones, and
then her biol also says stay calm, kind and firm. Wait,
Spicy Ones is trademarked, so that must be like her thing.
That's her thing, I guess, and I'm like, yes, the
key to parenting is staying calm. And I am on
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this group text with a couple of other moms who
happened to be adoptive moms, and we were talking about
something and I was like, hey, I just wanted to
share with you all that In my mind, I pictured
myself throwing my coffee mug across the kitchen, but I
didn't do it. So I just wanted to acknowledge I'll calm.
I stayed on the outside. Yeah, on the outside. I
(03:38):
was even calm on the inside. In fact, it's been
months though, since I've actually envisioned wanting to throw something.
Some people are throwers. I wasn't ever a thrower, but
sometimes there have been episodes where I've just thrown like
a jar of peanut butter, or I've slammed milk, because
it can feel good. It can feel good, but it's
also not good to do it in front of children
(04:01):
because that's scary and not calm. And the number one
thing that we can do as a parent is be
the calmest person in the room. And so anyway, just
funny that I'm reading her bio and I just thought
of that stay calm, kind and firm, because we do
need to be firm. But there's a big difference between
firm and yelling and going crazy or slamming peanut butter.
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And it's just like, I don't know if your mom
and you've been in those the trenches at times, like
you get it, maybe that's not your thing like some mom's.
I was at a mom's group the other night and
one mom actually the mom that was the guest speaker,
and she works with foster parents, and she's like, I'm
a yeller. I was always a yeller. That's just the
(04:44):
way I'm wired to just yell. And once obviously she
became a foster parents, she's like, that doesn't really work,
so like you can't yell. She's like, I haven't yelled
in years because you can't. It's not going to get
you anywhere. So some of us you have to like
really get that control. Some people might be like what
you yell? Like it never dawned on me to yell
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or throw my coffee mug. Back to my point is
like find your people that you can, you know, share
that with and there's no judgment and they will reply
back to you well done, friends, like well done, We're
proud of you. I'm so proud of you. You're like
held onto your coffee mug. I'm not a mom, but
this page is interesting to me. Yeah, and what I'm
about to share with you doesn't just have to do
(05:26):
with parenting. But she posted something called the February Love Challenge,
and actually I pulled the clips, so I'm just gonna
play it for you here and she's explaining what she's
doing or what she's recommending you can do for your
kids in your life. But even if you don't have kids,
you could do this for a roommate or a significant
(05:47):
other and it's something really cool. So here's what she
said to do. One way you can show your children
that they have influence on you and they impact the
good is to get some heart doilies now that we're
into in February, and start just writing down in a
sharpie one thing it's very specific about them, that matters
(06:08):
to you, that makes life better, that you adore. Just
kind of keep them off to the side, and come
Valentine's Day, let's put them all over the door of
our little people and then make them stand there while
we read them allowed all the things about them that
bring other people pleasure and make life better. Do you
understand the assignment? Can I understand this, sigman? Okay? I
(06:29):
love it all right. So I've already ordered my doilies,
got them in. I ordered on on Amazon the minute
I watched her little video, and I am starting to
fill them out for my kids. And then on Valentine's
Day they're going to be taped to their door and
they'll see it. Unfortunately I have to actually travel on
Valentine's but I'm gonna get a little help, or maybe
(06:51):
I'll just do it the day before I leave, and
it's fine. They can get It's Monday, and I'm gonna
be in l A for Dustin Lynch album least thing. Anyway.
Either way, they're gonna end up on their doors. But
I've already started filling them out and putting things to
the side. But again, you could do this for anybody
in your life, and that way it's not overwhelming. You're
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not working on it all the night before, just each
day kind of if they do something that day you
think of that's really cute or special or that you
love about them, jot it down, put it in the drawer,
and then when it comes time to tap them all up,
you put the little doilies. And even if you don't
want to order the doilies. If you don't know what
doily is, it's like a crocheted paper. It's what it
looks like to me. It's like whether in an I
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don't even know why it's called doily, but we could
back in research of that while I'm talking. But you
could actually just get construction paper. Also, I will say,
since podcasts are weird and you might be listening to
this after Valentine's Day, you could keep this idea in
mind for someone's birthday or an anniversary, or if they
have something special coming up, or they just they've got
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a lot going on in life and you maybe want
to surprise them with something. Oh that makes me think
about a sweatshirt. Seeking of surprising people, I found the
sweatshirt online. Actually, Mary, she loves spreadsheets. She runs the
shop Forward, and I found a sweatshirt that says lady
in the streets freaking the spreadsheets. I ordered it, yeah,
(08:19):
and I sent it because I was like, oh, this
hopefully will make her laugh, and like sometimes friends just
need to smile or laugh or whatever. And I can't
even remember the company though. It's like, just googled freaking
the spreadsheets and then somebody pulls up your search history.
Don't don't don't google image that. But like, you will
hopefully find the sweatshirt, because if you have like a
(08:41):
friend that loves spreadsheets or an accountant friend, then that
might be a coold gift to surprise them with. But anyway,
have you learned the history of doilies when I'm going
to educate you guys. Also, you just brought up a
sore subject for me that we'll get to, oh, sweatshirts,
so yeah, we'll get to that. Okay. So the word
Doyle Doiley is one of those words that if you
say it over and over again, you're like, what is
(09:03):
this word? I know it's weird. Do come from the
name of a well known London dry goods dealer in
the seventeenth century. I'm already bored. Yes, they're more, It's okay,
but no, no, no no, there's more. I want to tell
you what it actually was used for, because I don't
care the history of it. What I cared is like,
what's the purpose? There's also seven different ways to spell it,
(09:25):
so if you're worried about spelling it wrong, don't. It's
used as a matt like a coaster, I guess, or
for binding flowers, or as a head covering okay, which
I could see it folding over your head. Yeah, like
a paper hat. I don't know. Are doilies always paper
or did they made of paper or fabric? Okay? Okay,
(09:47):
all right, so there you go. If you ever get
some random trivia question about doilies. Hopefully you'll think back
to this episode you know know what you might learn. Okay,
what's your sweatshirt drama? Uh? Well, you know I'm working
(10:16):
on merch for you need therapy and has some really
great ideas. And I had this one really great idea
a sweatshirt and it says therapy is cool, because it is.
And I designed them and I found somebody to create them,
and I even pulled everybody to see what colors they wanted.
And then a very kind person choose doing this to
be kind, informed me that somebody has already made these
(10:40):
and I looked it up and said person has trademarked
therapy is cool. Yeah, so now you need to find
So now I have to find something else so I
can't use it one because I want to be respectful,
and too because I don't want to be sued. But
we're just wondering if I should just change it to
therapy is cool. K K e w L was watching Billions,
(11:01):
which that's a TV show that it's got like six seasons.
So if you've never said to go back to season one,
and you would have so much to watch. But one
of the characters on there the other day said cuol,
And she even said, you see what I did there,
k w E l quel. So that's going to be
the new Worch. I don't know if anybody will buy it.
I don't know. Therapy is upsetting. I don't know. I'm
(11:24):
not I'm not feeling all the time, but I don't
It's not the same vibe as cool. Yeah, maybe you
know people are cool cool cool cool cool cool cool.
You might just need to go back to the drawing board.
You do have have the day you need to have.
I'm about to trademark that. You might need to see
if it is I already not trademark her trademark, Queen
(11:45):
is that's Mary. So she probably has a whole spreadsheet
on the trademarks, lady. But that's just a nice little
reminder that sometimes things you can plan them, you can
be excited about them, and then you just get redirected
and you got to make a new plan. You're allowed
to be upset because I'm really sad. That's fine, I
know it's okay be upset about I'm gonna buy her
(12:05):
sweatshirt because I do actually really want that. Yeah, and
support her, and then maybe she'll let me make them Hey,
I'll support you. Maybe she might not even care. The
problem is you run the risk of now that you
know this knowledge, and you publicly also said you know
the knowledge, I can't do it. You can't do it.
Plus it's like, Okay, someone else thought of that before you.
That's fine. You will think of something good that works
(12:27):
for you, and therapy is cool, and right now you
just got to have the day you need to have
with this. M m m. Yeah I do. So I'm
gonna be sad about it, and then tomorrow I might
be feel differently. Yeah, thank you for letting me process that.
I know. I mentioned billions, which then makes me think
of an email that I got from Brian. Yes, I
got an email from a guy, which I know. We
(12:50):
have guy listeners and guy listeners that listen to four things,
but I just don't hear from them as much. I
mostly interact with women, and honestly, and I'm speaking, I
speak to women. So it's good to have a reminder.
So shout out Brian for sending me that reminder that
he listened to the Jenny Allen episode from last Thursday
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about loneliness and friendship and creating community because she has
a new book out that's called Find Your People, really
great book. I'm diving into it. I got an early copy.
It comes out February. But I'm also listening to Hero
on a Mission and I'm reading like two other books,
so I gotta pump. That's Donald Miller's book. That's a
(13:35):
new book. Oh man, Okay, I know his first book,
like Changed Your Life Blue like Jazz. I've read it twice.
I need to read again. I haven't read it since college.
And then Scary Close really good. He's going to come
on the podcast, and I think that I'll just do
it at the Bobby Bones Show studio because your office
is by their over and you can walk over and
do the interview with me. What do you like that
(13:56):
I would love? Yeah? Okay, well that'll be fun. So
now I've completely derailed from Brian. Let me get back
to my thoughts on why I brought him up. Oh,
just shout out to all the guys listening. But he
was listening to the Jenny Allen episode, and Jenny Allen
and I were talking about Alias because she was doing
her four things Gratitude of a TV show on Instagram, Follow,
a book, and a drink. Did you listen to that episode.
(14:16):
Listen to the episode, and I love it. It was
so good. I don't go back and listen to many episodes,
but if I go back, it's because I want to
take in more of what the guests had to say
and like breathe through when I speak. But I wanted
to take in what she was saying, especially now that
I'm going to be finishing up her book. And I
(14:37):
really enjoyed it too. So if y'all haven't listened to
that episode, it's from last Thursday. If you're listening to
this in a timely manner, it was the last four
Things episode, but I think the title is like loneliness, friendship, types,
creating community, and then gratitude. So those are the four things.
And Brian emailed to tell me that we should definitely
(14:59):
watch Alien and I have never watched one single episode. No,
I remember I was in like elementary school when it
came out. I feel that, I mean, it would give
us a lot of episodes. And I love Jennifer Garner
on Instagram, so maybe follow her either. I need a
follow her like she's like a happy follow. I feel
good when I follow her. Since I mentioned four things gratitude.
Do you have any TV show book or yeah, whatever, recommendations. Yeah,
(15:23):
I'm embarrassed to say. I'm not gonna be embarrassed. I'm
going to be proud of this. I've been watching Selling Sunset.
I've heard that's good, but I don't. I've never watched.
I used to watch a lot of like Bravo stuff.
I don't have cable anymore and I don't know how
to find it, so I just don't. But I got
sucked into Selling Sunset. And at first I was texting
my friends and I was like, do will you recommend
another show for me? I'm watching Selling Sunset and it's
(15:44):
I don't like it, It's boring. But then all of
a sudden, it's like I was hooked and I became
borderline obsessed. I was like researching these people, wanting to
know about their lot. Great. I cried in it. I
won't tell you what part, but I cried in it.
So what? But I it was real? Well the thing
that I cried at was real, Okay, yeah, and I
(16:05):
knew it was going to happen, but I still cried.
I don't want to say what it is because I
don't want to give it away in case anybody's watching it,
even though I think it's public knowledge anyway, that is
a show that I do like, and it's one that
you can just have on and like not really pay
that much attention to. Yeah, I guess I should. I know.
A minute ago, I said I've never seen it. It
has come on before, but I've not hit any sort
of moment where I'm like, Okay, I'm looked, I'm gonna
keep watching. I've not watched, and normally that's how I
(16:29):
watched TV quite honestly, it's like on my computer, going
around my house, like doing laundry, working out, doing my hair.
That's but it's also a show that you're like, I
know this is fake, but I get so riled up
at the drama inside of it, and it's a nice escape.
I think, Like, you know, how we talked about you
you were desperate Desperate Housewives was Real Housewives? Okay, that's yeah.
(16:51):
I know. My therapists like late like there was multiple
therapists on a zoom and they would give me homework
and part that my homework would be like take a bath,
to watch Real Housewives. Stuff like that. All the stuff
we need and want and welcome permission to do because
we feel like we're not supposed to be doing it
or something which someone posted something I wish I could
(17:14):
remember who. Maybe it was you, Maybe it was Glennon Doyle.
Are you confusing me? No? Um, No, I don't. Maybe
it's Lisa. Actually I'm giving the credit. Lisa Hame, who
I co host out Way with her podcast is also
on the network. Yes, she did a whole thing about indulgences,
but she didn't use that word. What's it called guilty pleasure? Yes, downstairs,
(17:40):
when you couldn't think of what you call it, you
caught something a disclaimer what you call it? Yeah, you
called disclaimer a different word dismember. I don't know, but
it started with the D. I don't know why. My
brain is just not foggy today, but I want to
give credit where credit is due. And it was Lisa's
post and it was all about self care. I think
(18:01):
she had gotten her hair done that day. There was
a part of her. I think that at one point
in time would have felt guilty for taking the time
and go doing your hair. And it's like this thing
and she's like, no, I took time. I got my
hair done today. I whatever your guilty pleasure is, I
watched the show today, own it, be proud. It's not
you need that stuff. It shouldn't even be called a
guilty pleasure because there's nothing guilty about doing it. It
(18:22):
was basically what she was saying, Well, there's this idea
of this this unhealthy striving out idea out there that like,
if we have time, we should be doing something with
it that then creates this like product or whatever. And
also watching a TV show for me sometimes creates a product.
And that product is it re energizes me to be
able to do the other things in my life. Okay, boom,
(18:43):
this is Lisa's post. It starts out of guilty pleasures.
Let's break this down. Their implicatedations of the language use
and guilty pleasures implies that if it feels good but
(19:04):
isn't productive in some way, we shouldn't feel too good
about it. Why is a woman watching a forty five
minute episode of Real Housewives I roll worthy while a
man watching ten hours of football a day is something
we don't blink at. The real question to unpack is
why do we deny ourselves from getting pleasures full potential?
And how can we interfere with the subconscious effect. It's
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time to think about how this mindset of feeling guilty
or simply feeling pleasure may interrupt our ability to feel
pleasure on a whole. We are entitled to joy always
one hundred percent. In my book, there's she doesn't. I
don't think she means like book. She hasn't written a book.
I think she just means like a saying in my opinion, right,
I don't think she has a book in my in
(19:52):
my but why didn't want to I don't want to
say that. I don't want to say that. And then
someone texting we would know if she has a book,
but listeners don't. I'm not clarifying you would definitely. No,
I'm clarifying it for a listener to No, she doesn't
have a book, but you can go by because that's
(20:13):
an email I would get. I heard you mentioned Lisa's book.
Where can I find it? Okay? So, in my book,
there's no such thing as a guilty pleasure, unless, of course,
you get pleasure from killing people. Don't do that. We
are the thieves of our own joy. If that, I
feel like Brittany right now. But I'm going to run
with it for effect. She's referring to Britney spears. Let
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us take our pleasure back, friends, After two years of
lingering pandemime, me, I'm all in with what is pansami?
She I think she was making fun of the word pandemic.
How people are calling it like a panorama or pandomimi. Pandemimi.
(20:56):
There it is. Can you see it's yeah? Okay, fine,
it's probably her funny for the pandemic. Okay, after two
years of a lingering pandemimi, I'm going all in with
pleasure no matter the source, I'll be snatching it up today.
For me, it's getting a needless blowout. See it was
her hair. She got her hair blown out. It feels
(21:17):
good for you. Let it feel really good. Reality TV
rom Calm, candy, blue cheese, she goes you but okay,
getting your nails done, doing a puzzle shout out? Ah,
four things? We have a puzzle. Cat actually finally got
hers today. Well we'll see if I leave your house
with it. Cat has come to my house four times
(21:40):
and every time has supposed like she's been like, I
need to come get the puzzle. I've even left it
on the porch for her in the rain because she
was going to come by but then the weather it
was too bad and she did it. So it's like
she is getting it. My purse is sitting on top
of it. Yeah, so Kat is going to do her
four things puzzle, which if you all want to do
one too. It's so cute. It's one of my favorite
things we've ever made. And it says it's fine and fine,
(22:01):
everything is fine. Has a lot of fun stuff on it,
including my dog Kara and my cat Maggie, and like
donal donuts and cupcakes and birds and fruit. It's very vibrant.
A bird, yes, an owl and a bird, but the
bird the birds on there, but there's also an owl.
There's like a pretty painted bunting bird and then the
(22:21):
owl is drawn and also written like over the owl
is see things differently. Yeah, so it's also an encouraging puzzle.
I'll just say that for Things dot com. But I'm
going to continue Lisa's post here. She Lisa does some
posts and they're awesome, which we didn't intend to talk
about this today. So now I'm like, are we even
going to get to the questions. I don't know. Sometimes
(22:43):
Cat and I just start talking and then we just
see where it goes. So back to Lisa's post, she says,
whatever it is, keep the pleasure police away. Keep in
mind you might be the one doing the policing. Pleasure
is good no matter the source. You are with me,
yes or yes, drop your non guilty pleasure below And
people were commenting all their non guilty pleasures. We're the
(23:06):
cutest going for a foot see right now, which is
that's what they call reflexology. You know, have you ever
done that? Oh you haven't. I'm gonna tellus on my feet.
I don't know if I would enjoy it. It's just
a foot massage. Well, they're doing different pressure points on
your feet. That's the point. Like if they rubbed this
part of your toe, it's like supposed to be massaging
your kidney, but not really. If you're not looked at reef. Well,
(23:31):
I have a friend that does it all the time,
but I literally just maybe I didn't listen to her.
I've gotten it done before. And then I looked at
the different the foot map and you can see like, oh,
if you have this ailment, rub this part of your
foot and it will help whatever else is going off
on any other part of your body and it releases
toxins out of your feet. I'm not bought into that,
(23:51):
but I'm gonna experiment. I'm gonna go. Yeah, a lot
of people put massages as like, oh, that feels like
a guilty thing that you're not supposed to do. Someone
was like confirming her blue cheese thing Bravo TV. Nobody
said selling someset eating candy in the middle of the day.
Someone just wanted to shout out her football house wive's
question because it is so true, so much football. Yeah,
(24:15):
you don't think about that. But also that's like when
a guy, and I know women do this too, but
when like a guy goes and plays golf all day,
nobody's like, oh, you're playing golf all day. But like
if we went to the mall for ten hours, it's
probably be more expensive. But well, golf is more if
it's a full round, like a five hour affair just
to be But still, any wife right now and maybe wife,
maybe you're the one that golf. So maybe that's why
(24:37):
some women end up picking it up. Since a hobby
you can do together. I know women that golf with
their man. But if you don't, let's just go back
to the origin when like, I mean, there's some golf
courses where like women, they weren't they weren't ever allowed,
And that's because it was created as a man sport.
And yes, it's very long activity. And I don't know
(24:58):
how many times I've said out loud to my husband
like I wish I had something like golf. I'm not
saying this is a healthy response. And then he's like,
find something, I'll support it, and I'm like, yeah, what exists?
What activity? Unless you want me to take up golf,
which I have tried, and it's like, you're not my thing.
I'm not into it. So since we weren't even supposed
(25:18):
to read that, where are we remember last time? I
think this last week you said we have how many
weeks in the year. Oh, yeah, there's fifty two weeks
in the year. Another yeah, but you were saying that
we don't always do because of vacation. But we will
get to some questions, I promise. I hope you enjoyed
(25:39):
this episode though. But in closing, in closing what I
was going to say, in keeping with the theme of
trying to keep the fifth things shorter, we have to
wrap any parting words. Well, I wrote down from that post.
Maybe we'll leave people with this. This is my favorite
thing that Lisa said in that post. We are always
entitled to joy yes before we go though, because we
(25:59):
did bring up gratitude with TV show Books. Are you
reading a book right now that you want to talk about?
I just started. I'm listening to it. I don't really
read that much. Cultish cult cult Ish. It's like English
but cult Ish. It is so interesting. I mean, I'm
sucked in of seven more hours ago. Okay, it's very good,
(26:20):
and it's about what's about cults and how language is
the most important part of cult and how the language
of cults is its own language Cultish. I would not
be good at starting a cult. You listen to this
and you might be And no, I feel like you
have to be a psycho. Now you don't. And that's
why this some people. I wasn't saying I'm not. I
(26:40):
wasn't saying I'm not a psychopath. So I wouldn't start
a cult. But like, language is hard for me, I'm
not good at trying to figure out things to convince people.
Because I'm trying to figure it out myself, I'm more
likely to fall prey too, yes, and you probably have.
And I think we're involved in more in quotes unquote
cults that we don't categories as cults because they don't
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bring harm. I mean, I could talk about it for
literally forty five minutes. I want to get the author
on you need therapy. It is fascinating. Okay, well I'm
going to check it out. Something they get done with
my five other books that I'm trying to consume. I
want to listening to Donald Miller here on a Mission,
listening to Limitless about our Brains, and reading going there
(27:22):
by Katie Kuric. Also, I got burn A Brown's latest
book and I haven't even started it, and I've started
Jenny Allen's book, Find Your People. That's what I am
reading and reading I know, because it's like I need
to just pick one and finish it. But then Limitless
(27:42):
you can't. In Limitless, it tells me, it even says,
even while you're reading Limitless or listening to it, to
only do it in like twenty five minute batches because
you want your brain to like retain what you're taking
taking in. And so then I'm trying to apply that
from that book to these other books. And then it's
like my time is up and I've started doing because
(28:04):
I'm somebody who can't just listen to one book at
a time. Again, I listened to all my books. I
have like days of the week, so like on this day,
I'll listen to this, and I'm like on Thursdays, I
listened to your podcast when I'm getting ready on Monday's,
I listened to this podcast. On Tuesday's, I listen to
an audible book. That's what I started to do, so
then I can take in different start scheduling. That's hard
because even in Limitless it says to schedule out your reading,
(28:27):
like just do it. If you want to read, put
it in your calendar and do it. And so that's
what I need to do. I have enjoyed getting in
bed at night and reading Katie's book, Like I crawl
into bed and I opened it up and I read
it and then I fell asleep and I'm like, yeah,
I made it two pages. So you'll be reading that
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for a while, lowly but surely getting there. Robin Roberts
is coming out with a book this year, and I
think she's gonna come back on the podcast. How do
you think she's I feel good. This one might be
in purpose. A feeling is not it. I feel awesome,
it's fun, I feel like I feel happy. Okay, yeah,
I feel happy. I feel happy. I feel excited that
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it could possibly be in person, but I don't want
to get my hopes up in Yeah. Well, last time
it was on Zoom and then with COVID, though it
still might be on Zoom again, but they're hopeful to
maybe start doing some in person things. I won't come
to the interview, but I would just like to go, oh,
I'm gonna be. I don't know when it's going to
be or I don't know. You're just supposed to say yes, oh,
(29:32):
I just anybody that wants to come. I guess could come.
Everybody is invited, but everybody, I don't know. We'll see
what happens. But that's something that's exciting. And now we
were supposed to in a few minutes ago, so we're
really going to and now we hope you'll have a
great day and I'll see you on Thursday for four things.
Bye bye,
Happy Tuesday. Welcome to the Fifth Thing with Amy and
cat Hi. Today's quote is from Dr Becky good Inside
and I posted this quote this weekend on Instagram at
Radio Amy if you want to see it there, but
I originally saw Dr Becky good Inside. That's her handle,
Becky Kennedy. She's amazing. She has all the parenting tips
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in the world. I love watching her videos or just
reading her post. And she put up the slide that
said make this your mantra today, and that's our quote
for today because I feel like, even if you don't
have kids, this could apply to anything in your life
that you might be working at. And she said, this
feels hard because it is hard, not because I'm doing
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something wrong. That's your mantra. This feels hard because it
is hard, not because I'm doing something wrong. I'm obsessed
with this because I'm trying to think of when I
am doing something that's that's hard, what I say myself,
like I'm not good at this, or I'm missing something,
or what am I doing wrong? Am I doing wrong? Yes,
when it's like no, it's just a hard thing you're doing. Yeah,
(01:08):
it's it's difficult, and that we should have compassion on
ourselves and it's not impossible, and we can keep going
and we will get through it. But parenting, it does
not mess around. Like parenting is hard. Relationships are hard.
Sometimes different life challenges are hard. So wherever this quote
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hits you, just let it sit with you for a
second and remember it. Keep it in your back pocket
for anything you encounter where it's like, unless, of course
you actually are doing something wrong, then I will say.
I was having a conversation with somebody for You Need
Therapy podcast yesterday, and this makes me think of what
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she said. We were talking about discomfort and Wiley why
we don't like it, and she said the weird thing
about discomfort, which to me, when things are hard that's uncomfortable,
is she goes the things that we want are always
on the other side of discomfort. So too, that's like,
if something feels hard and you're uncomfortable with that, it's
probably because you're working or doing something that you care about. Yeah. Also,
(02:15):
this makes me think of boundaries, and boundaries are so hard,
and often times boundaries are difficult for us to put
in place, but then they're also difficult for the people
that might be affected by our boundaries and that doesn't
mean we're doing anything wrong. So this quote just has
all kinds of goodness in it. I actually even put
it in my four Things Gratitude journal, like times four.
(02:36):
I just took up the whole page one through four
and wrote it and put times four because I'm so
thankful for that quote. I also saw on Instagram from
this other parenting person that I follow, Mary van Geffen.
That's her handle, Mary van Geffen. I don't even know
how I found her, but she's a parenting coach. Her
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Instagram bio actually says parenting coach for Spicy Ones, and
then her biol also says stay calm, kind and firm. Wait,
Spicy Ones is trademarked, so that must be like her thing.
That's her thing, I guess, and I'm like, yes, the
key to parenting is staying calm. And I am on
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this group text with a couple of other moms who
happened to be adoptive moms, and we were talking about
something and I was like, hey, I just wanted to
share with you all that In my mind, I pictured
myself throwing my coffee mug across the kitchen, but I
didn't do it. So I just wanted to acknowledge I'll calm.
I stayed on the outside. Yeah, on the outside. I
(03:38):
was even calm on the inside. In fact, it's been
months though, since I've actually envisioned wanting to throw something.
Some people are throwers. I wasn't ever a thrower, but
sometimes there have been episodes where I've just thrown like
a jar of peanut butter, or I've slammed milk, because
it can feel good. It can feel good, but it's
also not good to do it in front of children
(04:01):
because that's scary and not calm. And the number one
thing that we can do as a parent is be
the calmest person in the room. And so anyway, just
funny that I'm reading her bio and I just thought
of that stay calm, kind and firm, because we do
need to be firm. But there's a big difference between
firm and yelling and going crazy or slamming peanut butter.
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And it's just like, I don't know if your mom
and you've been in those the trenches at times, like
you get it, maybe that's not your thing like some mom's.
I was at a mom's group the other night and
one mom actually the mom that was the guest speaker,
and she works with foster parents, and she's like, I'm
a yeller. I was always a yeller. That's just the
(04:44):
way I'm wired to just yell. And once obviously she
became a foster parents, she's like, that doesn't really work,
so like you can't yell. She's like, I haven't yelled
in years because you can't. It's not going to get
you anywhere. So some of us you have to like
really get that control. Some people might be like what
you yell? Like it never dawned on me to yell
(05:04):
or throw my coffee mug. Back to my point is
like find your people that you can, you know, share
that with and there's no judgment and they will reply
back to you well done, friends, like well done, We're
proud of you. I'm so proud of you. You're like
held onto your coffee mug. I'm not a mom, but
this page is interesting to me. Yeah, and what I'm
about to share with you doesn't just have to do
(05:26):
with parenting. But she posted something called the February Love Challenge,
and actually I pulled the clips, so I'm just gonna
play it for you here and she's explaining what she's
doing or what she's recommending you can do for your
kids in your life. But even if you don't have kids,
you could do this for a roommate or a significant
(05:47):
other and it's something really cool. So here's what she
said to do. One way you can show your children
that they have influence on you and they impact the
good is to get some heart doilies now that we're
into in February, and start just writing down in a
sharpie one thing it's very specific about them, that matters
(06:08):
to you, that makes life better, that you adore. Just
kind of keep them off to the side, and come
Valentine's Day, let's put them all over the door of
our little people and then make them stand there while
we read them allowed all the things about them that
bring other people pleasure and make life better. Do you
understand the assignment? Can I understand this, sigman? Okay? I
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love it all right. So I've already ordered my doilies,
got them in. I ordered on on Amazon the minute
I watched her little video, and I am starting to
fill them out for my kids. And then on Valentine's
Day they're going to be taped to their door and
they'll see it. Unfortunately I have to actually travel on
Valentine's but I'm gonna get a little help, or maybe
(06:51):
I'll just do it the day before I leave, and
it's fine. They can get It's Monday, and I'm gonna
be in l A for Dustin Lynch album least thing. Anyway.
Either way, they're gonna end up on their doors. But
I've already started filling them out and putting things to
the side. But again, you could do this for anybody
in your life, and that way it's not overwhelming. You're
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not working on it all the night before, just each
day kind of if they do something that day you
think of that's really cute or special or that you
love about them, jot it down, put it in the drawer,
and then when it comes time to tap them all up,
you put the little doilies. And even if you don't
want to order the doilies. If you don't know what
doily is, it's like a crocheted paper. It's what it
looks like to me. It's like whether in an I
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don't even know why it's called doily, but we could
back in research of that while I'm talking. But you
could actually just get construction paper. Also, I will say,
since podcasts are weird and you might be listening to
this after Valentine's Day, you could keep this idea in
mind for someone's birthday or an anniversary, or if they
have something special coming up, or they just they've got
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a lot going on in life and you maybe want
to surprise them with something. Oh that makes me think
about a sweatshirt. Seeking of surprising people, I found the
sweatshirt online. Actually, Mary, she loves spreadsheets. She runs the
shop Forward, and I found a sweatshirt that says lady
in the streets freaking the spreadsheets. I ordered it, yeah,
(08:19):
and I sent it because I was like, oh, this
hopefully will make her laugh, and like sometimes friends just
need to smile or laugh or whatever. And I can't
even remember the company though. It's like, just googled freaking
the spreadsheets and then somebody pulls up your search history.
Don't don't don't google image that. But like, you will
hopefully find the sweatshirt, because if you have like a
(08:41):
friend that loves spreadsheets or an accountant friend, then that
might be a coold gift to surprise them with. But anyway,
have you learned the history of doilies when I'm going
to educate you guys. Also, you just brought up a
sore subject for me that we'll get to, oh, sweatshirts,
so yeah, we'll get to that. Okay. So the word
Doyle Doiley is one of those words that if you
say it over and over again, you're like, what is
(09:03):
this word? I know it's weird. Do come from the
name of a well known London dry goods dealer in
the seventeenth century. I'm already bored. Yes, they're more, It's okay,
but no, no, no no, there's more. I want to tell
you what it actually was used for, because I don't
care the history of it. What I cared is like,
what's the purpose? There's also seven different ways to spell it,
(09:25):
so if you're worried about spelling it wrong, don't. It's
used as a matt like a coaster, I guess, or
for binding flowers, or as a head covering okay, which
I could see it folding over your head. Yeah, like
a paper hat. I don't know. Are doilies always paper
or did they made of paper or fabric? Okay? Okay,
(09:47):
all right, so there you go. If you ever get
some random trivia question about doilies. Hopefully you'll think back
to this episode you know know what you might learn. Okay,
what's your sweatshirt drama? Uh? Well, you know I'm working
(10:16):
on merch for you need therapy and has some really
great ideas. And I had this one really great idea
a sweatshirt and it says therapy is cool, because it is.
And I designed them and I found somebody to create them,
and I even pulled everybody to see what colors they wanted.
And then a very kind person choose doing this to
be kind, informed me that somebody has already made these
(10:40):
and I looked it up and said person has trademarked
therapy is cool. Yeah, so now you need to find
So now I have to find something else so I
can't use it one because I want to be respectful,
and too because I don't want to be sued. But
we're just wondering if I should just change it to
therapy is cool. K K e w L was watching Billions,
(11:01):
which that's a TV show that it's got like six seasons.
So if you've never said to go back to season one,
and you would have so much to watch. But one
of the characters on there the other day said cuol,
And she even said, you see what I did there,
k w E l quel. So that's going to be
the new Worch. I don't know if anybody will buy it.
I don't know. Therapy is upsetting. I don't know. I'm
(11:24):
not I'm not feeling all the time, but I don't
It's not the same vibe as cool. Yeah, maybe you
know people are cool cool cool cool cool cool cool.
You might just need to go back to the drawing board.
You do have have the day you need to have.
I'm about to trademark that. You might need to see
if it is I already not trademark her trademark, Queen
(11:45):
is that's Mary. So she probably has a whole spreadsheet
on the trademarks, lady. But that's just a nice little
reminder that sometimes things you can plan them, you can
be excited about them, and then you just get redirected
and you got to make a new plan. You're allowed
to be upset because I'm really sad. That's fine, I
know it's okay be upset about I'm gonna buy her
(12:05):
sweatshirt because I do actually really want that. Yeah, and
support her, and then maybe she'll let me make them Hey,
I'll support you. Maybe she might not even care. The
problem is you run the risk of now that you
know this knowledge, and you publicly also said you know
the knowledge, I can't do it. You can't do it.
Plus it's like, Okay, someone else thought of that before you.
That's fine. You will think of something good that works
(12:27):
for you, and therapy is cool, and right now you
just got to have the day you need to have
with this. M m m. Yeah I do. So I'm
gonna be sad about it, and then tomorrow I might
be feel differently. Yeah, thank you for letting me process that.
I know. I mentioned billions, which then makes me think
of an email that I got from Brian. Yes, I
got an email from a guy, which I know. We
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have guy listeners and guy listeners that listen to four things,
but I just don't hear from them as much. I
mostly interact with women, and honestly, and I'm speaking, I
speak to women. So it's good to have a reminder.
So shout out Brian for sending me that reminder that
he listened to the Jenny Allen episode from last Thursday
(13:11):
about loneliness and friendship and creating community because she has
a new book out that's called Find Your People, really
great book. I'm diving into it. I got an early copy.
It comes out February. But I'm also listening to Hero
on a Mission and I'm reading like two other books,
so I gotta pump. That's Donald Miller's book. That's a
(13:35):
new book. Oh man, Okay, I know his first book,
like Changed Your Life Blue like Jazz. I've read it twice.
I need to read again. I haven't read it since college.
And then Scary Close really good. He's going to come
on the podcast, and I think that I'll just do
it at the Bobby Bones Show studio because your office
is by their over and you can walk over and
do the interview with me. What do you like that
(13:56):
I would love? Yeah? Okay, well that'll be fun. So
now I've completely derailed from Brian. Let me get back
to my thoughts on why I brought him up. Oh,
just shout out to all the guys listening. But he
was listening to the Jenny Allen episode, and Jenny Allen
and I were talking about Alias because she was doing
her four things Gratitude of a TV show on Instagram, Follow,
a book, and a drink. Did you listen to that episode.
(14:16):
Listen to the episode, and I love it. It was
so good. I don't go back and listen to many episodes,
but if I go back, it's because I want to
take in more of what the guests had to say
and like breathe through when I speak. But I wanted
to take in what she was saying, especially now that
I'm going to be finishing up her book. And I
(14:37):
really enjoyed it too. So if y'all haven't listened to
that episode, it's from last Thursday. If you're listening to
this in a timely manner, it was the last four
Things episode, but I think the title is like loneliness, friendship, types,
creating community, and then gratitude. So those are the four things.
And Brian emailed to tell me that we should definitely
(14:59):
watch Alien and I have never watched one single episode. No,
I remember I was in like elementary school when it
came out. I feel that, I mean, it would give
us a lot of episodes. And I love Jennifer Garner
on Instagram, so maybe follow her either. I need a
follow her like she's like a happy follow. I feel
good when I follow her. Since I mentioned four things gratitude.
Do you have any TV show book or yeah, whatever, recommendations. Yeah,
(15:23):
I'm embarrassed to say. I'm not gonna be embarrassed. I'm
going to be proud of this. I've been watching Selling Sunset.
I've heard that's good, but I don't. I've never watched.
I used to watch a lot of like Bravo stuff.
I don't have cable anymore and I don't know how
to find it, so I just don't. But I got
sucked into Selling Sunset. And at first I was texting
my friends and I was like, do will you recommend
another show for me? I'm watching Selling Sunset and it's
(15:44):
I don't like it, It's boring. But then all of
a sudden, it's like I was hooked and I became
borderline obsessed. I was like researching these people, wanting to
know about their lot. Great. I cried in it. I
won't tell you what part, but I cried in it.
So what? But I it was real? Well the thing
that I cried at was real, Okay, yeah, and I
(16:05):
knew it was going to happen, but I still cried.
I don't want to say what it is because I
don't want to give it away in case anybody's watching it,
even though I think it's public knowledge anyway, that is
a show that I do like, and it's one that
you can just have on and like not really pay
that much attention to. Yeah, I guess I should. I know.
A minute ago, I said I've never seen it. It
has come on before, but I've not hit any sort
of moment where I'm like, Okay, I'm looked, I'm gonna
keep watching. I've not watched, and normally that's how I
(16:29):
watched TV quite honestly, it's like on my computer, going
around my house, like doing laundry, working out, doing my hair.
That's but it's also a show that you're like, I
know this is fake, but I get so riled up
at the drama inside of it, and it's a nice escape.
I think, Like, you know, how we talked about you
you were desperate Desperate Housewives was Real Housewives? Okay, that's yeah.
(16:51):
I know. My therapists like late like there was multiple
therapists on a zoom and they would give me homework
and part that my homework would be like take a bath,
to watch Real Housewives. Stuff like that. All the stuff
we need and want and welcome permission to do because
we feel like we're not supposed to be doing it
or something which someone posted something I wish I could
(17:14):
remember who. Maybe it was you, Maybe it was Glennon Doyle.
Are you confusing me? No? Um, No, I don't. Maybe
it's Lisa. Actually I'm giving the credit. Lisa Hame, who
I co host out Way with her podcast is also
on the network. Yes, she did a whole thing about indulgences,
but she didn't use that word. What's it called guilty pleasure? Yes, downstairs,
(17:40):
when you couldn't think of what you call it, you
caught something a disclaimer what you call it? Yeah, you
called disclaimer a different word dismember. I don't know, but
it started with the D. I don't know why. My
brain is just not foggy today, but I want to
give credit where credit is due. And it was Lisa's
post and it was all about self care. I think
(18:01):
she had gotten her hair done that day. There was
a part of her. I think that at one point
in time would have felt guilty for taking the time
and go doing your hair. And it's like this thing
and she's like, no, I took time. I got my
hair done today. I whatever your guilty pleasure is, I
watched the show today, own it, be proud. It's not
you need that stuff. It shouldn't even be called a
guilty pleasure because there's nothing guilty about doing it. It
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was basically what she was saying, Well, there's this idea
of this this unhealthy striving out idea out there that like,
if we have time, we should be doing something with
it that then creates this like product or whatever. And
also watching a TV show for me sometimes creates a product.
And that product is it re energizes me to be
able to do the other things in my life. Okay, boom,
(18:43):
this is Lisa's post. It starts out of guilty pleasures.
Let's break this down. Their implicatedations of the language use
and guilty pleasures implies that if it feels good but
(19:04):
isn't productive in some way, we shouldn't feel too good
about it. Why is a woman watching a forty five
minute episode of Real Housewives I roll worthy while a
man watching ten hours of football a day is something
we don't blink at. The real question to unpack is
why do we deny ourselves from getting pleasures full potential?
And how can we interfere with the subconscious effect. It's
(19:27):
time to think about how this mindset of feeling guilty
or simply feeling pleasure may interrupt our ability to feel
pleasure on a whole. We are entitled to joy always
one hundred percent. In my book, there's she doesn't. I
don't think she means like book. She hasn't written a book.
I think she just means like a saying in my opinion, right,
I don't think she has a book in my in
(19:52):
my but why didn't want to I don't want to
say that. I don't want to say that. And then
someone texting we would know if she has a book,
but listeners don't. I'm not clarifying you would definitely. No,
I'm clarifying it for a listener to No, she doesn't
have a book, but you can go by because that's
(20:13):
an email I would get. I heard you mentioned Lisa's book.
Where can I find it? Okay? So, in my book,
there's no such thing as a guilty pleasure, unless, of course,
you get pleasure from killing people. Don't do that. We
are the thieves of our own joy. If that, I
feel like Brittany right now. But I'm going to run
with it for effect. She's referring to Britney spears. Let
(20:34):
us take our pleasure back, friends, After two years of
lingering pandemime, me, I'm all in with what is pansami?
She I think she was making fun of the word pandemic.
How people are calling it like a panorama or pandomimi. Pandemimi.
(20:56):
There it is. Can you see it's yeah? Okay, fine,
it's probably her funny for the pandemic. Okay, after two
years of a lingering pandemimi, I'm going all in with
pleasure no matter the source, I'll be snatching it up today.
For me, it's getting a needless blowout. See it was
her hair. She got her hair blown out. It feels
(21:17):
good for you. Let it feel really good. Reality TV
rom Calm, candy, blue cheese, she goes you but okay,
getting your nails done, doing a puzzle shout out? Ah,
four things? We have a puzzle. Cat actually finally got
hers today. Well we'll see if I leave your house
with it. Cat has come to my house four times
(21:40):
and every time has supposed like she's been like, I
need to come get the puzzle. I've even left it
on the porch for her in the rain because she
was going to come by but then the weather it
was too bad and she did it. So it's like
she is getting it. My purse is sitting on top
of it. Yeah, so Kat is going to do her
four things puzzle, which if you all want to do
one too. It's so cute. It's one of my favorite
things we've ever made. And it says it's fine and fine,
(22:01):
everything is fine. Has a lot of fun stuff on it,
including my dog Kara and my cat Maggie, and like
donal donuts and cupcakes and birds and fruit. It's very vibrant.
A bird, yes, an owl and a bird, but the
bird the birds on there, but there's also an owl.
There's like a pretty painted bunting bird and then the
(22:21):
owl is drawn and also written like over the owl
is see things differently. Yeah, so it's also an encouraging puzzle.
I'll just say that for Things dot com. But I'm
going to continue Lisa's post here. She Lisa does some
posts and they're awesome, which we didn't intend to talk
about this today. So now I'm like, are we even
going to get to the questions. I don't know. Sometimes
(22:43):
Cat and I just start talking and then we just
see where it goes. So back to Lisa's post, she says,
whatever it is, keep the pleasure police away. Keep in
mind you might be the one doing the policing. Pleasure
is good no matter the source. You are with me,
yes or yes, drop your non guilty pleasure below And
people were commenting all their non guilty pleasures. We're the
(23:06):
cutest going for a foot see right now, which is
that's what they call reflexology. You know, have you ever
done that? Oh you haven't. I'm gonna tellus on my feet.
I don't know if I would enjoy it. It's just
a foot massage. Well, they're doing different pressure points on
your feet. That's the point. Like if they rubbed this
part of your toe, it's like supposed to be massaging
your kidney, but not really. If you're not looked at reef. Well,
(23:31):
I have a friend that does it all the time,
but I literally just maybe I didn't listen to her.
I've gotten it done before. And then I looked at
the different the foot map and you can see like, oh,
if you have this ailment, rub this part of your
foot and it will help whatever else is going off
on any other part of your body and it releases
toxins out of your feet. I'm not bought into that,
(23:51):
but I'm gonna experiment. I'm gonna go. Yeah, a lot
of people put massages as like, oh, that feels like
a guilty thing that you're not supposed to do. Someone
was like confirming her blue cheese thing Bravo TV. Nobody
said selling someset eating candy in the middle of the day.
Someone just wanted to shout out her football house wive's
question because it is so true, so much football. Yeah,
(24:15):
you don't think about that. But also that's like when
a guy, and I know women do this too, but
when like a guy goes and plays golf all day,
nobody's like, oh, you're playing golf all day. But like
if we went to the mall for ten hours, it's
probably be more expensive. But well, golf is more if
it's a full round, like a five hour affair just
to be But still, any wife right now and maybe wife,
maybe you're the one that golf. So maybe that's why
(24:37):
some women end up picking it up. Since a hobby
you can do together. I know women that golf with
their man. But if you don't, let's just go back
to the origin when like, I mean, there's some golf
courses where like women, they weren't they weren't ever allowed,
And that's because it was created as a man sport.
And yes, it's very long activity. And I don't know
(24:58):
how many times I've said out loud to my husband
like I wish I had something like golf. I'm not
saying this is a healthy response. And then he's like,
find something, I'll support it, and I'm like, yeah, what exists?
What activity? Unless you want me to take up golf,
which I have tried, and it's like, you're not my thing.
I'm not into it. So since we weren't even supposed
(25:18):
to read that, where are we remember last time? I
think this last week you said we have how many
weeks in the year. Oh, yeah, there's fifty two weeks
in the year. Another yeah, but you were saying that
we don't always do because of vacation. But we will
get to some questions, I promise. I hope you enjoyed
(25:39):
this episode though. But in closing, in closing what I
was going to say, in keeping with the theme of
trying to keep the fifth things shorter, we have to
wrap any parting words. Well, I wrote down from that post.
Maybe we'll leave people with this. This is my favorite
thing that Lisa said in that post. We are always
entitled to joy yes before we go though, because we
(25:59):
did bring up gratitude with TV show Books. Are you
reading a book right now that you want to talk about?
I just started. I'm listening to it. I don't really
read that much. Cultish cult cult Ish. It's like English
but cult Ish. It is so interesting. I mean, I'm
sucked in of seven more hours ago. Okay, it's very good,
(26:20):
and it's about what's about cults and how language is
the most important part of cult and how the language
of cults is its own language Cultish. I would not
be good at starting a cult. You listen to this
and you might be And no, I feel like you
have to be a psycho. Now you don't. And that's
why this some people. I wasn't saying I'm not. I
(26:40):
wasn't saying I'm not a psychopath. So I wouldn't start
a cult. But like, language is hard for me, I'm
not good at trying to figure out things to convince people.
Because I'm trying to figure it out myself, I'm more
likely to fall prey too, yes, and you probably have.
And I think we're involved in more in quotes unquote
cults that we don't categories as cults because they don't
(27:00):
bring harm. I mean, I could talk about it for
literally forty five minutes. I want to get the author
on you need therapy. It is fascinating. Okay, well I'm
going to check it out. Something they get done with
my five other books that I'm trying to consume. I
want to listening to Donald Miller here on a Mission,
listening to Limitless about our Brains, and reading going there
(27:22):
by Katie Kuric. Also, I got burn A Brown's latest
book and I haven't even started it, and I've started
Jenny Allen's book, Find Your People. That's what I am
reading and reading I know, because it's like I need
to just pick one and finish it. But then Limitless
(27:42):
you can't. In Limitless, it tells me, it even says,
even while you're reading Limitless or listening to it, to
only do it in like twenty five minute batches because
you want your brain to like retain what you're taking
taking in. And so then I'm trying to apply that
from that book to these other books. And then it's
like my time is up and I've started doing because
(28:04):
I'm somebody who can't just listen to one book at
a time. Again, I listened to all my books. I
have like days of the week, so like on this day,
I'll listen to this, and I'm like on Thursdays, I
listened to your podcast when I'm getting ready on Monday's,
I listened to this podcast. On Tuesday's, I listen to
an audible book. That's what I started to do, so
then I can take in different start scheduling. That's hard
because even in Limitless it says to schedule out your reading,
(28:27):
like just do it. If you want to read, put
it in your calendar and do it. And so that's
what I need to do. I have enjoyed getting in
bed at night and reading Katie's book, Like I crawl
into bed and I opened it up and I read
it and then I fell asleep and I'm like, yeah,
I made it two pages. So you'll be reading that
(28:49):
for a while, lowly but surely getting there. Robin Roberts
is coming out with a book this year, and I
think she's gonna come back on the podcast. How do
you think she's I feel good. This one might be
in purpose. A feeling is not it. I feel awesome,
it's fun, I feel like I feel happy. Okay, yeah,
I feel happy. I feel happy. I feel excited that
(29:10):
it could possibly be in person, but I don't want
to get my hopes up in Yeah. Well, last time
it was on Zoom and then with COVID, though it
still might be on Zoom again, but they're hopeful to
maybe start doing some in person things. I won't come
to the interview, but I would just like to go, oh,
I'm gonna be. I don't know when it's going to
be or I don't know. You're just supposed to say yes, oh,
(29:32):
I just anybody that wants to come. I guess could come.
Everybody is invited, but everybody, I don't know. We'll see
what happens. But that's something that's exciting. And now we
were supposed to in a few minutes ago, so we're
really going to and now we hope you'll have a
great day and I'll see you on Thursday for four things.
Bye bye,
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