June 11, 2022 • 19 mins
OUTWEIGH: Food Freedom + Body Image Dietitian, Dylan Murphy, is joining Amy for the next 3 weeks. We hope today’s chat encourages you no matter where you are on your eating disorder journey. Recovery is hard, but you have to want it for yourself. You have to choose it. Dylan says: “In deciding to recover or walk away from diets, that doesn’t mean you have to feel 100% ready or excited about it. Basically you just reach a point where you recognize the life you are living isn’t the fullest life that you know you could live. It’s hard. But you don’t have to do it alone.” Outweigh is here to come alongside you and we hope the episode resonates with you.
Dylan’s Instagram: @DylanMurphy.rd (her tagline is ditch diets, gain freedom!)
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I won't let my body out outweigh everything that I'm
made dope, won't spend my life trying to change. I'm
learning to love who I am. I get I'm strong,
I feel free, I know who every part of me
it's beautiful and then will always out if you feel
(00:24):
it with your hands in here, she'll some love to
the boy. Let's say good day and did you and
die out Happy Saturday. Outweigh fam amy here And I'm
joined today by Dylan Hey, Dylan Hi Aby, Dylan Murphy
to be specific, and on Instagram Dylan Murphy dot r D.
(00:46):
And you're registered Dietitians with the r DS for and
I'm on your Instagram right now. And as part of
your bio, you have ditch diets Gain Freedom. And I
gotta say, that's what Outweigh is all about, is trying
to find that freedom. Our tagline is a life without
disordered eating outweighs everything. So that's why it's called outweigh.
(01:08):
So what made you focus on this or be that
type of dietitian because Lord knows, there's other kinds. Yeah, gosh,
there's so many other kinds. And I feel like, oftentimes
when I tell people I'm a dietitian. I'm like, let
me explain what type of dietician I am, because yeah,
we're not all created equal. I think for me, once
I experienced what like life outside of rules of calorie counting,
(01:32):
all of all of that was like for myself personally,
which happened after I became a dietician. I was like,
I can't teach people things that I learned in school.
I can't teach people how to count calories, what to eat,
what not to eat, because there's so much freedom, like
I have in that tagline, like so much freedom that
lies outside of of diets that I've experienced myself and
(01:53):
been able to help other clients experience as well. So
I think my own personal experience has played a huge
role in definitely wanting to help people just find that freedom.
And do you feel as though when you were in
school the main focus was teaching people how to diet. Yeah,
And I gosh, I tell a lot of my clients
and just a lot of people like I feel like
(02:15):
as dietitians, and I guess I can't speak for every program,
but a lot of programs we almost learn, like how
to give people eating disorders, to like put it bluntly,
like we learn a lot about strict calorie diets, what
to eat, what not to eat. It's very like weight
centric approach. And so this idea of like intuitive eating
(02:36):
of more like weight neutral care was very foreign to me,
honestly until I mean, I think I learned a lot
about through Instagram and then did a lot of like
self study on my own, did more like courses in
training on like intuitive eating and eating disorders. Because even
in college I probably had two lectures on eating disorders,
and in my postgrad program to be a dietitian, I
(02:57):
had like a one week rotation in like an intensive
treatment center for eating disorder. So we get very very
little training in that area, right, which is you know,
part of the problem. And so for those of us listening,
I feel like right now, yeah, I'm a listener to
and you know, we wonder how we end up the
way we end up, and it's because it's just the norm.
(03:18):
It's like, it's what we hear from diet industry. It's
what we see on Instagram. It used to be billboards, magazines, TV,
but that's been the narrative for a long time. And
then that's what we've that's what we're fed. And then
you know, just casual conversations with other humans and other dieticians.
That's that's the narrative. Like even when you showed up
at my house, my father in law said, oh, no,
(03:40):
you're a dietitian. Are you here to tell me I
can't have my ice cream? And that's a normal funny
ha hall, but like also very serious nutrition this joke,
and you were able to say, actually, that's not what
I do. I would maybe encourage you to even yeah,
eat the scape. You mentioned weight neutral? Can you just
(04:04):
define that for people? Yeah, absolutely, that's a good question.
So really weight neutral, what that means is like being
able to look at someone for more than just like
the size of their body, because I think in I
keep going back a lot to like how we're trained
as dietitians, were taught to really look at weight as
like the number one marker of health. But what we
(04:26):
know to be true and and what like research shows
us is that that's not true. There's so many things
outside of the size of our body that dictate our
health status. In in a weight neutral approach, the way
I view it as really taking like a holistic approach
to someone, So looking at the whole person of like
your stress, your emotions, your mental health, your friendships. Um, sure,
(04:48):
we look at physical health, we look at are you
eating vegetables? That sort of thing, but really looking at
like the whole picture of someone's health instead of just
honing in on the size of their body. There's a
post you put up on Instagram in the May the
actually said, in comparison to all the other things you've
lost to your eating disorder, doesn't wait seems so insignificant.
(05:09):
And I look back to when my eating disorder was
ruling my life, and yes, my stress level was high,
my friendships were poor, my relationships, my capacity to do
other things, just everything was second to the eating disorder.
I you know, was having a conversation with a friend
(05:31):
you know, the other day about just who I was
when they first met me. And my eating disorder arrived
on the scene when I was a teenager. But then
somehow I got a grip of at least the purging part.
For I realized I thought, because I got rid of that,
that I got rid of my eating disorder. But I
adopted all kinds of other disordered behaviors, like orthorexia and
(05:54):
working out NonStop and not enjoying meal time and family
and friends. But the BELIEMI A part came back in
two thousand and fourteen. So I went over a decade
without that, and I thought I was doing pretty good,
and I probably was better all things considered. But it
came back, and my relationship with certain people just formed
(06:16):
around that time. There's a few people in my life
that I met around that time, and the version of
me that they met was spiraling, but they didn't know
it because I wasn't saying. It took me a minute
or a couple of years to admit my eating disorders back,
and then to even admit finally I needed to get
into some sort of recovery. But those relationships weren't built
(06:40):
with a strong foundation because I was so self absorbed.
It's a very selfish I don't did we call it
a disease. It's a very okay, so it's disorder. There
we go, eating disordered, disordered behavior. I don't know why
I was faced on that, but it's a very selfish thing.
(07:02):
And I know it's hard to, you know, face that
reality that it takes up so much of your brain space,
that you don't have a room for much else, and
unfortunately it starts to take over and it just spreads
like a wildfire within you. And then okay, yeah, now
you have no control. It's very still selfish, but you
don't feel like you can even get out even if
(07:23):
you want to. Yes, I love the imagery of a
wildfire because I feel like that's exactly how eating disorders
can so often start of like it maybe one little
spark of like oh I just need to like lose
a few pounds, eat a little bit less here, do this,
do that, But then it's so easily immerses into this
like huge problem, and I think what you said of
(07:44):
it being this like selfish kind of self centered thing.
One thing I want to add on that too, is
like it doesn't mean that you are choosing to be
sick or choosing to have a problem. Like if you're
listening and you're like, gosh, I do struggle with any disorder,
like I am so focused on myself. There is a
way that you can get help, there's a way you
can get out of it. And it can also feel
(08:05):
like you you are stuck and that you can't get
out of it. But yeah, I love I love what
you said about friends as well, because I think I don't.
It's easy to think that, like, oh, well, my friends
are only going to like me if I'm like this size,
or like what what would they think if I tell
them I'm struggling with a needing disorder. I'm curious for
(08:28):
you and those like with your friends, were you able
to like share with them what you're struggling with that
they already know eventually. But I think really the problem
with me and this is layers deep. It's not just
the disorder, it's stuff from it's just lack of connection.
You've got so much going on inside your head you
don't have room to really truly connect. And then there's
the whole thing like how can you love others if
(08:51):
you're not loving yourself? And what's your relationship like with yourself?
How are you showing up for you? And then in
turn that effects how you show up for others, And
you kind of have these At least for me, I
can only speak for myself. I had these, you know,
eating disorder goggles on to the world. I was trying
(09:11):
to be fine, but I was still viewing everything through
my goggles. And I know I wasn't someone that had
the thoughts of my friends are only gonna like me
if I'm thin. It just affected connection with people, even
my own spouse, my children, anybody it's not. And then
also it affected well part of connection. This is like
(09:34):
a little piece like if we were to branch off
from that, it's you know, enjoying each other meal time,
going out to eat something we've discussed multiple times of
you know, just missing out. You stay home because you
don't want to be faced with the fear of having
to eat something that doesn't fit into your box or
(09:55):
you'll have no way to you know, go work it
off afterwards or get read of it, and so you
just choose to stay home. So I think that's lack
of connection right there. And we were built for community
and it's a very isolating disorder. And so that's where
outweigh comes in and having experts on like you and
(10:17):
people sharing their stories and is that glimmer of hope
for people that it's okay, you're not just listening right
now and we're not yelling at you that you're selfish
and there's no it's more like, hey, I was selfish.
I can see it, and it took over to where
I wasn't really trying to be selfish. It just was
out of my control. But I had to make the
(10:41):
choice to take take charge of my own destiny and
start doing so. If someone is listening right now and
they're like, Okay, well I want to take charge, what's
the first step. I love that you said that's I
actually posted something. I think it was even like yesterday
or maybe two days ago. Why have your Instagram let
to pull it up? Okay, hold on, I think you're
probably it's a very less thing, at least that the
(11:01):
time of recording this that you posted. And is it
the one where you said change will not happen unless
you choose it. Yes, Yes, So I tell my clients
that all the time because and I think in the
caption I wrote like I tell clients all the time
like I can't want recovery for you more than you
want it for yourself. I can't want freedom from diets
for you more than you want it yourself, and for gosh,
(11:22):
all my clients, even just all human beings across the world,
like I want everyone to be able to experience freedom
with food, freedom and their body, because I think it
just brings so much more fullness to your life. But yeah,
the first step I think first is that like awareness
of Okay, something's not working, there's a problem. I need
help with this, And then I think a great place.
(11:45):
Well one, if you're listening to this episode, you've already
started at a great place, like listening to podcast episodes
all about recovery and eating disorders and food freedom, but
even reaching out for support. I think this is something
like Amy mentioned, where it's easy to be isolated and
kind of stuck in this journey by yourself, and you're
eating disorder loves that it wants to be isolated. So
(12:06):
the more you can bring it to the light and
bring someone else into your journey, like a therapist, a
dietitian preferably both can be huge and there's there's great
resources out there. Um gosh, I'm trying to think of
the exact names. But even if you just google like
eating disorder dietitian near me wherever you happen to live,
or a therapist that specializes in eating disorders like our
(12:26):
mutual friend cat Fata. Absolutely, because it's very important, you
could easily fall into a therapist that doesn't have eating disorder,
training or focus, and they might they just saying that, Yeah,
with dietitians, you can find someone that would kind of
come alongside eating disorder and we don't want that. So yeah,
(12:47):
and that's a great place, even like opening up to
family and friends, which can be so hard and I
think could be a whole another podcast episode in its olt,
but like inviting someone else into your journey that's in
your day to say life, that can keep you accountable
to Well, you're going to be back next week, so
maybe we talk more into that next Saturday. Dylan is
going to be on the next two Saturdays, so including today,
(13:10):
three total. And under this post that you put up
about you know, change will not happen unless you choose it,
you had someone comment named Natalie, and I like this,
so I'm going to read their comment and she said, yes,
we are only a choice away from changing our attitude
minute to minute, which in turn leads to a better
life by small choices adding up. And sometimes we look
(13:31):
at the mountain and the climb seems too much, But
one choice, one step towards it gets us to the
top eventually. Yes, but I know it takes time. I'm
sure you as an expert in's field can just say
you have to be incredibly patient with yourself and give
yourself so much grace. Yes, because it does. It takes time,
(13:51):
and I think it can be daunting, like when you
recognize I need help, I'm tired of struggling with these
behaviors I'm struggling with, it can feel so daunting of like, Okay, well,
how do I go from now to recovery and to
this freedom that you're talking about? But I think exactly
like that Comma Amy just read, it's like step by
step waking up every morning, like, Okay, what's one thing
(14:12):
I can do today to talk back to my eating disorder?
What's one thing I can do today to choose recovery?
And having that same mindset every day. For me, one
of the things was like I had to wake up
and for so long I restricted breakfast. So my one
thing that I would wake up and do is I
didn't care if I was hungry or not. I went
ate breakfast, which is like a huge thing for so
(14:33):
many people because I think breakfast is an easy one
to skip, yes, because you know, we're told like and
some people are able to do that and they don't have.
I just know this is this is for outweigh this
is for the people with disordered behaviors, because I have
some friends that are like, oh no, I mean, I'm
doing this for my brain and I'm not. I'm sharper
If I that's great, it is, it doesn't they can
(14:55):
still go out and enjoy time with friends. They don't
have to go to the gym five times a day. Like.
There are people that are able to do it, and
that's sometimes where it gets tricky. And maybe we can
dive into that next Saturday with the family and friends thing,
because sometimes we have family and friends that don't quite
get it and they're like, well, but this is what
I do. And you just have to really know that
(15:15):
just because someone else is doing it's not for you.
That's why people on Instagram posting what they eat in
a day is so ridiculous. Don't compare yourself. Yeah, we
cannot compare ourselves at all. You have a podcast, right
I do. Yeah, So it's called Free Method Podcast and
every week it's either myself or I'm interviewing other guests,
so other just experts in the area, whether it's therapist, dieticians,
(15:38):
or just people. I mean even similar to Amy who
like have a history with with an E disorder or
disordered eating. Um. We've also kind of expanded some into
I'm a new mom, so lots of conversation around just
like motherhood and body image and and really just everything
that encapsulates like living life free of diets and eating disorders.
Say the name of it one more time in please
(15:59):
people want to leave this episode and go listen. So
it's called Free Method f R E Method podcast and
you can find that wherever you listen to podcast awesome
and then your Instagram handle. I'll give that one more
time in case people want to go maybe screenshot. I'm
a big screenshotter of encouragement that I see on Instagram
some when I screenshot a lot is Mel Robbins. Do
(16:21):
you yollow her? She's so great and Cat and I
talk about her all the time. But she's Another tip
that she has for starting her day off strong is
she has the five second role to get out of bed,
so one get up and then we were talking about
you know what you do when you wake up earlier.
But she loves to high five herself in the mirror,
(16:42):
and that might be something you could try that could
be step one. It's just get out of bed and
go to the mirror and look at yourself and say,
high five. You can do this. You can go eat breakfast.
High five. And it might be daunting, but it's just
that repetition. It's waking up every day and making that choice,
waking up every day and making the next right choice,
(17:02):
and you build those new neuropathways and then it starts
to become a habit where that becomes more easy to
do and you look back of like, oh wow, now
I do this like so seamlessly. I eat breakfast and
don't even think to us about it. I get out
of bed, high five myself in the mirror, and it's
a habit now. Yeah, you have another post that says
hi ku about dieting, and I'm laughing because my daughter
(17:24):
just wrapped eighth grade and she had this e l
a test or something that she's had to ride a
hiku and yours is just um, I think it's seven seven. Yeah,
I probably couldn't write a real hiku, but yes, yes
it is, and um, yours is just no no no
no no, and the next line is no no no no.
And so really we just want to leave you with
(17:45):
that is if you get a crazy idea in your
head to maybe try some new diet, and there's a
lot of posers out there. They're trying to say they're
not a diet, but they are diet. Yes, if they
say they're not a diet, it they're a diet, right,
because there's no diet, there's there's okay, So just say
(18:05):
say it with us. No no, no, no, no, no
no no. So that's what you have to say to
yourself is no, and then go high five yourself for
being like yes, yes, no, yes, Okay, well Dylan, thank
you so much for joining today, and then yeah, Dylan's
gonna be back the next two Saturdays. We just want
to leave you all with hope and encouragement to tackle
(18:26):
the rest of your weekend and take care of yourself
and find a way where you can connect with someone
else today, whatever that looks like. So that way you
get out of your own head and start investing into
relationships in your life that really matter, because you know,
a relationship with food ends up pretty lonely. And that's
who I spent a lot of time with for many years,
(18:48):
lots of food alone in my room watching something and
you know it's it's only cool for a minute, so
there's more to life and um yeah, we wish you
the best, See you all next weekend. By but the
Pat
I won't let my body out outweigh everything that I'm
made dope, won't spend my life trying to change. I'm
learning to love who I am. I get I'm strong,
I feel free, I know who every part of me
it's beautiful and then will always out if you feel
(00:24):
it with your hands in here, she'll some love to
the boy. Let's say good day and did you and
die out Happy Saturday. Outweigh fam amy here And I'm
joined today by Dylan Hey, Dylan Hi Aby, Dylan Murphy
to be specific, and on Instagram Dylan Murphy dot r D.
(00:46):
And you're registered Dietitians with the r DS for and
I'm on your Instagram right now. And as part of
your bio, you have ditch diets Gain Freedom. And I
gotta say, that's what Outweigh is all about, is trying
to find that freedom. Our tagline is a life without
disordered eating outweighs everything. So that's why it's called outweigh.
(01:08):
So what made you focus on this or be that
type of dietitian because Lord knows, there's other kinds. Yeah, gosh,
there's so many other kinds. And I feel like, oftentimes
when I tell people I'm a dietitian. I'm like, let
me explain what type of dietician I am, because yeah,
we're not all created equal. I think for me, once
I experienced what like life outside of rules of calorie counting,
(01:32):
all of all of that was like for myself personally,
which happened after I became a dietician. I was like,
I can't teach people things that I learned in school.
I can't teach people how to count calories, what to eat,
what not to eat, because there's so much freedom, like
I have in that tagline, like so much freedom that
lies outside of of diets that I've experienced myself and
(01:53):
been able to help other clients experience as well. So
I think my own personal experience has played a huge
role in definitely wanting to help people just find that freedom.
And do you feel as though when you were in
school the main focus was teaching people how to diet. Yeah,
And I gosh, I tell a lot of my clients
and just a lot of people like I feel like
(02:15):
as dietitians, and I guess I can't speak for every program,
but a lot of programs we almost learn, like how
to give people eating disorders, to like put it bluntly,
like we learn a lot about strict calorie diets, what
to eat, what not to eat. It's very like weight
centric approach. And so this idea of like intuitive eating
(02:36):
of more like weight neutral care was very foreign to me,
honestly until I mean, I think I learned a lot
about through Instagram and then did a lot of like
self study on my own, did more like courses in
training on like intuitive eating and eating disorders. Because even
in college I probably had two lectures on eating disorders,
and in my postgrad program to be a dietitian, I
(02:57):
had like a one week rotation in like an intensive
treatment center for eating disorder. So we get very very
little training in that area, right, which is you know,
part of the problem. And so for those of us listening,
I feel like right now, yeah, I'm a listener to
and you know, we wonder how we end up the
way we end up, and it's because it's just the norm.
(03:18):
It's like, it's what we hear from diet industry. It's
what we see on Instagram. It used to be billboards, magazines, TV,
but that's been the narrative for a long time. And
then that's what we've that's what we're fed. And then
you know, just casual conversations with other humans and other dieticians.
That's that's the narrative. Like even when you showed up
at my house, my father in law said, oh, no,
(03:40):
you're a dietitian. Are you here to tell me I
can't have my ice cream? And that's a normal funny
ha hall, but like also very serious nutrition this joke,
and you were able to say, actually, that's not what
I do. I would maybe encourage you to even yeah,
eat the scape. You mentioned weight neutral? Can you just
(04:04):
define that for people? Yeah, absolutely, that's a good question.
So really weight neutral, what that means is like being
able to look at someone for more than just like
the size of their body, because I think in I
keep going back a lot to like how we're trained
as dietitians, were taught to really look at weight as
like the number one marker of health. But what we
(04:26):
know to be true and and what like research shows
us is that that's not true. There's so many things
outside of the size of our body that dictate our
health status. In in a weight neutral approach, the way
I view it as really taking like a holistic approach
to someone, So looking at the whole person of like
your stress, your emotions, your mental health, your friendships. Um, sure,
(04:48):
we look at physical health, we look at are you
eating vegetables? That sort of thing, but really looking at
like the whole picture of someone's health instead of just
honing in on the size of their body. There's a
post you put up on Instagram in the May the
actually said, in comparison to all the other things you've
lost to your eating disorder, doesn't wait seems so insignificant.
(05:09):
And I look back to when my eating disorder was
ruling my life, and yes, my stress level was high,
my friendships were poor, my relationships, my capacity to do
other things, just everything was second to the eating disorder.
I you know, was having a conversation with a friend
(05:31):
you know, the other day about just who I was
when they first met me. And my eating disorder arrived
on the scene when I was a teenager. But then
somehow I got a grip of at least the purging part.
For I realized I thought, because I got rid of that,
that I got rid of my eating disorder. But I
adopted all kinds of other disordered behaviors, like orthorexia and
(05:54):
working out NonStop and not enjoying meal time and family
and friends. But the BELIEMI A part came back in
two thousand and fourteen. So I went over a decade
without that, and I thought I was doing pretty good,
and I probably was better all things considered. But it
came back, and my relationship with certain people just formed
(06:16):
around that time. There's a few people in my life
that I met around that time, and the version of
me that they met was spiraling, but they didn't know
it because I wasn't saying. It took me a minute
or a couple of years to admit my eating disorders back,
and then to even admit finally I needed to get
into some sort of recovery. But those relationships weren't built
(06:40):
with a strong foundation because I was so self absorbed.
It's a very selfish I don't did we call it
a disease. It's a very okay, so it's disorder. There
we go, eating disordered, disordered behavior. I don't know why
I was faced on that, but it's a very selfish thing.
(07:02):
And I know it's hard to, you know, face that
reality that it takes up so much of your brain space,
that you don't have a room for much else, and
unfortunately it starts to take over and it just spreads
like a wildfire within you. And then okay, yeah, now
you have no control. It's very still selfish, but you
don't feel like you can even get out even if
(07:23):
you want to. Yes, I love the imagery of a
wildfire because I feel like that's exactly how eating disorders
can so often start of like it maybe one little
spark of like oh I just need to like lose
a few pounds, eat a little bit less here, do this,
do that, But then it's so easily immerses into this
like huge problem, and I think what you said of
(07:44):
it being this like selfish kind of self centered thing.
One thing I want to add on that too, is
like it doesn't mean that you are choosing to be
sick or choosing to have a problem. Like if you're
listening and you're like, gosh, I do struggle with any disorder,
like I am so focused on myself. There is a
way that you can get help, there's a way you
can get out of it. And it can also feel
(08:05):
like you you are stuck and that you can't get
out of it. But yeah, I love I love what
you said about friends as well, because I think I don't.
It's easy to think that, like, oh, well, my friends
are only going to like me if I'm like this size,
or like what what would they think if I tell
them I'm struggling with a needing disorder. I'm curious for
(08:28):
you and those like with your friends, were you able
to like share with them what you're struggling with that
they already know eventually. But I think really the problem
with me and this is layers deep. It's not just
the disorder, it's stuff from it's just lack of connection.
You've got so much going on inside your head you
don't have room to really truly connect. And then there's
the whole thing like how can you love others if
(08:51):
you're not loving yourself? And what's your relationship like with yourself?
How are you showing up for you? And then in
turn that effects how you show up for others, And
you kind of have these At least for me, I
can only speak for myself. I had these, you know,
eating disorder goggles on to the world. I was trying
(09:11):
to be fine, but I was still viewing everything through
my goggles. And I know I wasn't someone that had
the thoughts of my friends are only gonna like me
if I'm thin. It just affected connection with people, even
my own spouse, my children, anybody it's not. And then
also it affected well part of connection. This is like
(09:34):
a little piece like if we were to branch off
from that, it's you know, enjoying each other meal time,
going out to eat something we've discussed multiple times of
you know, just missing out. You stay home because you
don't want to be faced with the fear of having
to eat something that doesn't fit into your box or
(09:55):
you'll have no way to you know, go work it
off afterwards or get read of it, and so you
just choose to stay home. So I think that's lack
of connection right there. And we were built for community
and it's a very isolating disorder. And so that's where
outweigh comes in and having experts on like you and
(10:17):
people sharing their stories and is that glimmer of hope
for people that it's okay, you're not just listening right
now and we're not yelling at you that you're selfish
and there's no it's more like, hey, I was selfish.
I can see it, and it took over to where
I wasn't really trying to be selfish. It just was
out of my control. But I had to make the
(10:41):
choice to take take charge of my own destiny and
start doing so. If someone is listening right now and
they're like, Okay, well I want to take charge, what's
the first step. I love that you said that's I
actually posted something. I think it was even like yesterday
or maybe two days ago. Why have your Instagram let
to pull it up? Okay, hold on, I think you're
probably it's a very less thing, at least that the
(11:01):
time of recording this that you posted. And is it
the one where you said change will not happen unless
you choose it. Yes, Yes, So I tell my clients
that all the time because and I think in the
caption I wrote like I tell clients all the time
like I can't want recovery for you more than you
want it for yourself. I can't want freedom from diets
for you more than you want it yourself, and for gosh,
(11:22):
all my clients, even just all human beings across the world,
like I want everyone to be able to experience freedom
with food, freedom and their body, because I think it
just brings so much more fullness to your life. But yeah,
the first step I think first is that like awareness
of Okay, something's not working, there's a problem. I need
help with this, And then I think a great place.
(11:45):
Well one, if you're listening to this episode, you've already
started at a great place, like listening to podcast episodes
all about recovery and eating disorders and food freedom, but
even reaching out for support. I think this is something
like Amy mentioned, where it's easy to be isolated and
kind of stuck in this journey by yourself, and you're
eating disorder loves that it wants to be isolated. So
(12:06):
the more you can bring it to the light and
bring someone else into your journey, like a therapist, a
dietitian preferably both can be huge and there's there's great
resources out there. Um gosh, I'm trying to think of
the exact names. But even if you just google like
eating disorder dietitian near me wherever you happen to live,
or a therapist that specializes in eating disorders like our
(12:26):
mutual friend cat Fata. Absolutely, because it's very important, you
could easily fall into a therapist that doesn't have eating disorder,
training or focus, and they might they just saying that, Yeah,
with dietitians, you can find someone that would kind of
come alongside eating disorder and we don't want that. So yeah,
(12:47):
and that's a great place, even like opening up to
family and friends, which can be so hard and I
think could be a whole another podcast episode in its olt,
but like inviting someone else into your journey that's in
your day to say life, that can keep you accountable
to Well, you're going to be back next week, so
maybe we talk more into that next Saturday. Dylan is
going to be on the next two Saturdays, so including today,
(13:10):
three total. And under this post that you put up
about you know, change will not happen unless you choose it,
you had someone comment named Natalie, and I like this,
so I'm going to read their comment and she said, yes,
we are only a choice away from changing our attitude
minute to minute, which in turn leads to a better
life by small choices adding up. And sometimes we look
(13:31):
at the mountain and the climb seems too much, But
one choice, one step towards it gets us to the
top eventually. Yes, but I know it takes time. I'm
sure you as an expert in's field can just say
you have to be incredibly patient with yourself and give
yourself so much grace. Yes, because it does. It takes time,
(13:51):
and I think it can be daunting, like when you
recognize I need help, I'm tired of struggling with these
behaviors I'm struggling with, it can feel so daunting of like, Okay, well,
how do I go from now to recovery and to
this freedom that you're talking about? But I think exactly
like that Comma Amy just read, it's like step by
step waking up every morning, like, Okay, what's one thing
(14:12):
I can do today to talk back to my eating disorder?
What's one thing I can do today to choose recovery?
And having that same mindset every day. For me, one
of the things was like I had to wake up
and for so long I restricted breakfast. So my one
thing that I would wake up and do is I
didn't care if I was hungry or not. I went
ate breakfast, which is like a huge thing for so
(14:33):
many people because I think breakfast is an easy one
to skip, yes, because you know, we're told like and
some people are able to do that and they don't have.
I just know this is this is for outweigh this
is for the people with disordered behaviors, because I have
some friends that are like, oh no, I mean, I'm
doing this for my brain and I'm not. I'm sharper
If I that's great, it is, it doesn't they can
(14:55):
still go out and enjoy time with friends. They don't
have to go to the gym five times a day. Like.
There are people that are able to do it, and
that's sometimes where it gets tricky. And maybe we can
dive into that next Saturday with the family and friends thing,
because sometimes we have family and friends that don't quite
get it and they're like, well, but this is what
I do. And you just have to really know that
(15:15):
just because someone else is doing it's not for you.
That's why people on Instagram posting what they eat in
a day is so ridiculous. Don't compare yourself. Yeah, we
cannot compare ourselves at all. You have a podcast, right
I do. Yeah, So it's called Free Method Podcast and
every week it's either myself or I'm interviewing other guests,
so other just experts in the area, whether it's therapist, dieticians,
(15:38):
or just people. I mean even similar to Amy who
like have a history with with an E disorder or
disordered eating. Um. We've also kind of expanded some into
I'm a new mom, so lots of conversation around just
like motherhood and body image and and really just everything
that encapsulates like living life free of diets and eating disorders.
Say the name of it one more time in please
(15:59):
people want to leave this episode and go listen. So
it's called Free Method f R E Method podcast and
you can find that wherever you listen to podcast awesome
and then your Instagram handle. I'll give that one more
time in case people want to go maybe screenshot. I'm
a big screenshotter of encouragement that I see on Instagram
some when I screenshot a lot is Mel Robbins. Do
(16:21):
you yollow her? She's so great and Cat and I
talk about her all the time. But she's Another tip
that she has for starting her day off strong is
she has the five second role to get out of bed,
so one get up and then we were talking about
you know what you do when you wake up earlier.
But she loves to high five herself in the mirror,
(16:42):
and that might be something you could try that could
be step one. It's just get out of bed and
go to the mirror and look at yourself and say,
high five. You can do this. You can go eat breakfast.
High five. And it might be daunting, but it's just
that repetition. It's waking up every day and making that choice,
waking up every day and making the next right choice,
(17:02):
and you build those new neuropathways and then it starts
to become a habit where that becomes more easy to
do and you look back of like, oh wow, now
I do this like so seamlessly. I eat breakfast and
don't even think to us about it. I get out
of bed, high five myself in the mirror, and it's
a habit now. Yeah, you have another post that says
hi ku about dieting, and I'm laughing because my daughter
(17:24):
just wrapped eighth grade and she had this e l
a test or something that she's had to ride a
hiku and yours is just um, I think it's seven seven. Yeah,
I probably couldn't write a real hiku, but yes, yes
it is, and um, yours is just no no no
no no, and the next line is no no no no.
And so really we just want to leave you with
(17:45):
that is if you get a crazy idea in your
head to maybe try some new diet, and there's a
lot of posers out there. They're trying to say they're
not a diet, but they are diet. Yes, if they
say they're not a diet, it they're a diet, right,
because there's no diet, there's there's okay, So just say
(18:05):
say it with us. No no, no, no, no, no
no no. So that's what you have to say to
yourself is no, and then go high five yourself for
being like yes, yes, no, yes, Okay, well Dylan, thank
you so much for joining today, and then yeah, Dylan's
gonna be back the next two Saturdays. We just want
to leave you all with hope and encouragement to tackle
(18:26):
the rest of your weekend and take care of yourself
and find a way where you can connect with someone
else today, whatever that looks like. So that way you
get out of your own head and start investing into
relationships in your life that really matter, because you know,
a relationship with food ends up pretty lonely. And that's
who I spent a lot of time with for many years,
(18:48):
lots of food alone in my room watching something and
you know it's it's only cool for a minute, so
there's more to life and um yeah, we wish you
the best, See you all next weekend. By but the
Pat
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