Apple introducing new AI tech for phones

Apple introducing new AI tech for phones

Episode Transcript

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We were just talking about Paps BlueRibbon and the one hundred and eighty pack
of beer for the one hundred eightiethbirthday. Jay, You've been on a
hold a lot. What's up,brother. I'm a retailer here in Columbus
and they had a package a coupleof years ago. It was between one
hundred and one hundred and fifty forPaps, and none of my suppliers knew
anything about it, so I contactedPaths And what Paps does is they nail

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out a just the container itself,a box, so you kind of buy
your own product and kind of fillit. And I'm assuming you just fill
it at somebody's house for a giftor something. But they don't actually back
then when I said about two threeyears ago, they did not send out
any beer. It was just abox itself. Oh, you couldn't go
to an actual retailer and buy it. So maybe that's what this is,
is the box you get and youkind of build it yourself. That's a

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ninety five dollars box. Then yeah, I mean that that doesn't seem right
at all. Yeah. I can'tfathom how a driver would get a unit
off his truck and loaded onto atwo wheeler and wielding to a store.
Yeah, it's one hundred and eightypack. As they put it. The
last line of this is one hundredeighty pack is perfect for summer get togethers
and is available nationwide now. Butyou make an interesting point, Jay,

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how would you get it out ofyou? Yeah? And how do they
exactly? Yeah? Yeah, Idon't, I don't. Yeah, there's
a lot of questions we had.Yeah, that's interesting. Two years ago,
that's all was is a box andyou built your own here. It
was between one hundred and hundred andfifty units that had a lot of customers
sold online. There are you goingto be able to get this? And
when I inquired, it was justthe box itself. Yeah, I don't
know if it's this way with thatprice, I wouldn't pay that much for

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a box. Yeah, exactly.You got that right anyway? Jay?
Thanks? Yeah, yeah, thanksman. I appreciate you. Listen.
Yeah, thanks, man, Iappreciate that. Let's bring in Mike Dubuski,
ABC News Technology reporter and Mike,I think you'll agree that's one hundred
and eighty one hundred and eighty perapsblue ribbons. That's a lot of beer
right there. Yeah, as aperson who just got back from a wedding

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this weekend, that sounds about right. We were talking, it's there one
hundred and eighty ath Aniverse. Youknow, they were founded at eighteen forty
four, and so the one hundredand eighty pack we looked online Josh found
that it's like ninety five bucks tobuy and it's available nationwide right now.

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But we're just talking about the logisticspart of this. It's just like,
well, how are you gonna moveone hundred and eighty beer? Like,
how are they having one package?And then you heard our caller probably just
there. So it's just there's alot of questions here with this, you
know, how do you keep itcold? And my big question how large
are we talking a package here?What kind of refrigerator are we gonna need?
Yeah, and clearly it's you know, you would need to walk in

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if you're gonna put it all init once, but yeah, at the
house you would just you're gonna doI don't know what, You're probably gonna
do fifty at a time or somethinglike that, you know. Agator.
Yeah, it's the only thing Ican think with regard to that. But
then we were saying, well thatin addition to all of that, it's
also perhaps but it's PBR. Sothere's that to mix this well, which

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Josh and I both kind of arrivedat like na, no thanks, you
know if it was you know,uh, Miller Lite or something like that.
Now I'm talking. Now you're talking. You got my attention. Get
behind like a rolling rock or somethinglike that. There you go, BBR.
I don't know. I don't knowabout BBR. I dabbled, Oh,

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yes, Stella, are you kiddingme? One hundred and eighty beers
of Stella? I'd be like elevenhundred dollars, probably be something stupid.
And then I'm not above a grabbingone hundred and eighty heihinees either. I
mean a Honeyken would be all right. I guess uh, now that we're
past our beer conversation. Mike Dubuski, Hey, we talked about this yesterday

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that you know, Apple's adding thisnew AI technology into the next generation of
the iPhone, the iPad max software, all of that stuff. And then
I saw like a really strong responsefrom Elon Musk and so I when I
saw this today, I go,oh, this is perfect Ike's reporting on
this, and Elon Muskat was nothe was not real receptive to this,

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I guess to put it lightly right. Yeah, that's right. So yesterday
was WWDC, that's Apple's developer conferenceswhere they gather together all their sort of
app developers and show off their latestsoftware. And there was a big expectation
going in that they were going tomake some big AI announcements. They've largely
kind of sat to the side ofthis AI hype cycle that we've been going

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through over the last year and ahalf or so. That all changed yesterday.
They unveiled a whole slew of differentAI features that they're going to bake
into their next generation iPhone, iPad, and Max software. And as part
of this announcement, they announced apartnership with open ai, which is sort
of the leading startup in the generativeAI space. They're the makers of chat

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GPT, the chatbot, and Dollythree the image generator, several other tools
as well. They say that thenew version of Series, if it gets
a request that it can't handle,we'll hand that question off to open AI's
technology and see if that technology cananswer your question. This prompted as you

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said, a pretty big response fromElon Musk, who is of course big
figure in the tech world. Heruns Tesla and SpaceX and several other companies.
He called this on social media anunacceptable security violation. He's concerned that
the information that we give over tothis AI model is on the one hand,
it goes to Apple, sure ifit's being handled by their own internal

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sort of technology, but if theyare handing some of this off to open
ai, well that's a big concernat least for Elon Musk. And he
says that if Apple goes through withthis software update, which they are set
to do in the fall, thenhe's going to essentially ban Apple products from
his companies. He talked about puttinghaving employees put their phones in faraday cages

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before they walked into the office.So some pretty extreme statements from Elon Musk,
But I want to put it allin context. Guys. Elon Musk
not only was one of the reasonsthat open ai exists, he helped co
found the company, eventually left thecompany pretty early on and started his own
artificial intelligence company called x AI.So he's a guy who's got a lot
of horses in this Ripace Yeah,the Faraday cage, by the way,

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just as a side note, Iwas like trying to I'm like looking,
I'm like, what exactly is that? Is it basically like a pouch of
sorts or are you even familiar withit? Yeah? The idea is that
it's either a box or a pouch. You know, comes in many different
forms, but the makeup of thebox essentially that you'd be putting your phone

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in, would block outside signals fromboth the Internet and from phone companies.
It's essentially a way to seal yourdevices off from the larger world. And
it's an idea that's been you know, kicking around for a while. Faraday
cages exists, and you know,Elon seems to want to employ them at
his companies. But again, Iwant to put this all in context.
Guys, Elon Musk says a lotof stuff, right, Like he comments

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on many different things. This seemslike a pretty impractical thing to implement at
Tesla and SpaceX and the boring companyand X formerly Twitter and whatever other companies
he has a hands in. Couldhe do it well? Possibly? But
I think there's a lot of conversationleft to be had before that ends up.
Actually, happening in the real world, So is there any legitimacy then

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to his concerns about it being asecurity violation or is there him just sour
grapes with this. So there's certainlya concern when with regards to security.
Right. So Apple says, ifyou're handing over some information to an AI
model and Apple Intelligence, their ownproprietary technology is handling that request, there
is a layer of this that's goingto be handled purely on your device.

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Right. They've gotten these AI modelsdown to such a small form factor that
they can run on your eye orthey could run on your iPad, and
that effectively seals off that information fromnot just the wider world, but from
Apple itself. Sometimes you ask anAI system something a little bit more complex,
and that's going to require the modelto send the request back to an

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Apple server that they say is verysecure. It runs on Apple's own silicon.
It's walled off from the rest ofthe company. They're not collecting any
specific data about you as a user. That's one piece of this, and
Apple has largely, you know,been very secure. Right. That is
one of the arguments that they makefor buying an Apple product over something from
Samsung or Google. The way thisis going to work if they are offloading

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some of this computing work to openAI, I think is a separate question,
but you gotta also think here,guys, this kind of gives Apple
a little bit of cover, rightif something goes wrong, well then they
can just say, hey, openAI handle that part of it. And
we've seen these systems go wrong inthe past, not just from a security
point of view, but for asimple accuracy point of view. It was

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not that long ago that we werechatting about how Google's version of this technology,
which they called Gemini, was tellingpeople to eat rocks and to put
glue on pizza. And that isnot the same technology, but it's a
similar version of the technology that Applenow wants to bake into the iPhone software.
Hey, so, Mike, ifyou would tell us about the big

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implications for the green text blue textbattle, what exactly it is. So
this has been going on for areally long time. If you have an
iPhone, you're probably familiar with this. If you use your iPhone to text
another iPhone, your text message isgoing to show up blue, whereas if
you use it to text an Androidphone, it's going to show up green.
There's a very simple reason for that. One. Apple has its own

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proprietary texting technology that only works onApple products. It's called I Message.
You get special features, You gethigh quality picture and video messaging. You
get encryption which makes your text moresecure and less likely to be hacked.
You get a couple other things likereactions and that type of thing. If
you text an Android phone and itgoes to a green text, you have

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essentially been kicked down to a lowerform of texting technology known as the SMS
standard, that doesn't come with asmany features. It kind of screws up
your group chats. There's been alot of reports about how kids feel ostracized
in school and pressured into buying iPhonesfor similar reasons. People on dating apps
have complained that if they have anAndroid phone and they show up as a

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green text in somebody's iPhone, they'reless likely to get responses. It's been
a big thing going on since thelaunch of Imassage in twenty eleven. Well
recently, the European Union has passedlegislation aimed at cracking down on some of
the what they call monopolistic practices thatApple is employing, essentially forcing them to
allow a more modern form of textingtechnology to be available through imassage. The

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more modern form of texting technology iscalled RCS texting the Rich Communication Service as
its own. This is supported bypretty much every Android phone out there,
meaning that when the new iPhone's shipin the fall, this will be the
standard. Right. You will beable to text Android phones from your iPhones,
getting igh quality pictures and videos.You'll be able to add reactions.

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But if the presentation from yesterday isany indication, guys, the colors are
remaining the same, meaning that youknow, if you text an Android phone
still going to be green. What'salso interesting too, Mike, is for
instance, on Southwest if you payfor the internet on there, which cost
eight bucks. If you're on aflight and you pay eight bucks and you're
trying to text somebody that like forme, I have an iPhone and if

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I'm trying to text somebody from outthere, even though I have the Internet,
it will not go through unless theyare another iPhone. It's interesting I
had to communicate with somebody who hadan Android via Facebook Messenger as opposed to
using actual texting on the on theplane. While I paid for the Internet
was just kind of an interesting thingside note with that, And I think

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based on the information you just reportedwith the new iPhone, I bet you
it will allow you to do thatonce, you know, in that situation,
which by the way, is justa few minutes of my life total
throughout the course of a year.But just an interesting side note with that
too. Yeah. Absolutely, AndI mean again, the thing that you're
essentially being booted back to when yougo to a green text is a very

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old form of texting technology. SMSstands for Short Message Service. That meant
that you were character limited, youcould only send a certain amount of data
back and forth. This goes backto like the early days of texting's history,
and since then the rest of theworld has moved on. It's just
that Apple has not up until nowallowed that more modern form of texting technology

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to be available on their devices.And you know that does come with some
risk, right. The lack ofencryption has been a big sticking point for
many saying that you know, hey, it's safe IFY text another iPhone not
as safe as I text an Androidphone. Is that like fair to anyone?
Like? Is that okay? Forboth you know iPhone users and Android
users. It's it's it's an openquestion. It's been bandied about for a

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long time. Obviously, we talkeda little bit about the social implications of
this as well. And sure itmight just be a couple of minutes out
of your day, but that matters, right. We spend so much time
on our phones and it might seemsilly to talk about green text versus blue
texts, but you know, that'scommunication right now, that's you know,
we make judgments based on that typeof thing, and that's just the world
we live in. Yep, forsure. Mike Yubusky, ABC News Technology

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and Reporter, very interesting. Thanksvery much for joining us today. Appreciate
you brother. Of course, guys, take care. We'll see you traffic
and weather together from day and night.