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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Let's bring in Alex Stone from ABC News right now.
And Alex, are you one of those people that goes man,
just put it on one time or the other.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
And leave it. I don't know.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
I go back and forth on it because I kind
of like it getting darker earlier. For I get things
done earlier, like at night, because it feels like it's
later and it's cozier, feels more like wintertime. I'm not
big into the switch of the light going later. Well,
I mean, you know, unless you're gonna, like in the
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summer go to like you know, concert outdoors or something
like that. But I don't know. Then at the other part,
I'm like, why do we do this? Why don't we
change our clocks an hour? Like if you tell that
to kids, it makes no sense that we just like
arbitrarily decide to save energy. What fifty years ago, eighty
years ago, that we're gonna change our clocks around And.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
I'm with you, Alex, like when we fall back, I'm
just like leave it there. I like standard time, Eastern
Standard time. For me, it works. I do not like
daylight saving time. Give me Eastern Standard time.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
And zinco where you're at, Alex Pacific Standard time.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
Is that how that works or PST versus, Like in
the summer, it's PDT PDT Pacific.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
Daylight tell Arizona out here it doesn't change, so and Hawaii.
So it gets weird. Any you're gotta call somebody and
you're like, Okay, what time of the year is it exactly?
You know, are they on Arizona on Mountain time or
on Pacific time right now?
Speaker 1 (01:32):
So this survey says forty Americans get the daylight saving scaries.
It's a name, there's a name for it, the daylight
saving scaries. As much as eleven days ahead of changing
the clocks and as long as thirteen days after these
daylight saving scary.
Speaker 3 (01:49):
I get excited. It's kind of like, okay, something different,
something's changing.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Some people dread it so much that they have what Yeah,
like I said, the daylight saving scaries. Fifty nine percent
of people that were part of this would like to
permanently have one time year round.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
To your guys's point.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Well, I don't like heart attacks go up at that time,
and ye know, there are there are issues that go on.
I always wonder not to get too deep, but like,
does the things that go on that when we change
the clock, would they have gone on at the hour
before hour after had we not changed the clock? You know,
like that bird that takes off and flies away, would
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that have done that had we not changed time? You know,
of how everything impacts something else.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
You've been smoking the refer and watching the movie in,
haven't you?
Speaker 3 (02:40):
But I'll be driving along and think, you know, I wonder.
I mean, obviously like car crashes and that sort of
thing that has to do with what time we get
going and what, but things that are nature and would
all of the little things impact everything I.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Answers know anyway, I think the answers no, Alex, because
birds will fly based on what is in Moreton noise.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
That we made because of what we're now.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Out there or no, no, you know where.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
I was going with this is they would take off
because they're going to their bodies work into where they
maybe have to find a food source, so they've got
to get something, or they're going to you know, call
it call it a day. And they would not do
that earlier if they would feel that the daylight.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
As you guys go to in a dark room and
do a hauasca with Aaron Rodgers this summer.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
This was gonna get weird.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
When I thought about it, I got it.
Speaker 4 (03:34):
I want to know, I like that kind of thing.
An existential thinker like that as well.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
I love it.
Speaker 4 (03:40):
But it's like it's like that, that's like a that's
like a highuasca trip or something like with you know,
Shawman out in the desert.
Speaker 3 (03:47):
Or even those who get into car crashes that like,
you know, would it have changed because the light would
have been a little bit different than That's something else.
If it would have been thirty seconds different based on
the old time it would they not have gotten into
that credit.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
That is that's deep.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
You got some seriously deep things going on there.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Well, it is a medical.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
Fact that the heart situation, that whole cardiovasca it is
elevated around that time. And they also say car crashes
increase because people's sleep patterns, so you are not as
aware for that week or two until you reregulate. And
also parents with young children deal with they are all
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jacked up for I don't know how long.
Speaker 4 (04:35):
Oh yeah, well, see this will actually make it easier
for my kids to go to bed because in the summer,
forget about my kids.
Speaker 2 (04:42):
I'm that parent Okay, I've got ten. Got I've got
ten and six year old.
Speaker 4 (04:47):
Well guess what they were up till midnight, one two
in the morning with daddy this past summer. If they
can make it, they can do it. If they don't
have school, if they don't have an event, if they
make sure. Your wife's going crazy, like she was like, no,
you have the kids, I'm going to bed. She got
better sleep in the summer than I think she did.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
She's a teacher, so she didn't even really technically need it,
need it in that way.
Speaker 4 (05:10):
My wife always needs sleep. She'll tell you that. Yeah,
but you know what I'm saying, like for work. But
here's here's what I'm really looking forward to. Is it?
Is it two weeks, two saturdays from this week, November third, Yes,
when it happens.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Okay, second overnight Sunday, twelve days away. It's from Saturday
before the election. Correct? Correct?
Speaker 3 (05:30):
Oh no, because I have to fly early on that
Sunday morning. Okay, never mind, I'm not into this because wait,
we're going back.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
Right, You're falling the hour of sleep. Oh well, then
I'm good. Okay, you're going to gain an hour of sleep. Okay,
that's better. You're not losing an hour of sleep.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
Okay, for Josh, I'm gaining an hour of bar time, Sarah.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
That's Saturday.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Now.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
If you're in a bar at one am or two,
it becomes one am again, which is last.
Speaker 4 (05:55):
The bar will be open till thirty in the morning.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
Some bars will close though, well do that, but some
go ahead.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
We want the art, we want the extra hours.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Yeah, we want the extra hour. Yeah, the extra hour
of revenue.
Speaker 4 (06:08):
If you trust me, we spoons will be open until
three point thirty. I promise you.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
That's good, man.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
What's not good is this former Abercrombie and Fitch CEO arrested.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
This is uh man. This is a big story.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
This is probably this is pretty much the biggest story
outside of political stuff today.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
This is the biggest story going on Alex.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
Yeah and again in the New York area and very
reminiscent of Epstein and Sean Combs. The allegations against him
if true, and so Michael Jefferies. He ran Abercrombie and
Fitch from nineteen ninety two to twenty fourteen. You remember
when Abercrombie was like everything in the younger crowd.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
About the same age as I am Alex Yes, when
we were in high school. Yeah, the cool kids wore
the Abercrombie absolutely.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
And so the allegation that was laid out today is
it during his time as CEO that he was woring
young men in with the promise that they would become
an Abercrombie model and forcing them to take drugs and
perform sex acts, and that they would use a classic
casting couch scenario of tryouts where the young men would
come in have to take part in sexual activity, and
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then Jefferies and his partner Michael Smith and another man
that they would pick those who they liked to then
travel the world with him and take part in sex parties.
And the indictment mentions fifteen alleged victims. Breon Peace is
a US attorney in the Eastern District of New York
and said this thing.
Speaker 5 (07:33):
Bill Jeffries was the CEO of one of the most
recognizable clothing retailers in the world. He was using his power,
his wealth, and his influence to traffic men for his
own sexual pleasure and that of his romantic partner, Matthew Smith.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
And so they're accused of running an international sex trafficking
not a ring, but a business that recruited young men
for parties around the world after the tryouts and they
were accepted and they would go to these sex parties globally,
and they allegedly had employees, contractors, security teams to run
this sex business. This is who these people worked for.
And then it was really this global sex party business
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that was going on.
Speaker 5 (08:17):
The defendants pressured the men to consume alcohol, biagra, and
muscle relaxes known as poppers during the sex events, and
they required the presence of staff during the sexual activity
and ensured that the men did not leave the sex
events until Jeffries and Smith decided that the sessions were over.
Speaker 3 (08:40):
Now prosecutors believe there are more victims out there. They're
asking them to come forward. And all along the victims
allegedly believed that they were trying out for modeling gigs
with Abercrombie that would lead to being Abercrombie models, and
if they didn't follow what the CEO told them to do,
the belief was and then they wouldn't be a model.
And he did have that power to say this is
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not good enough, he will not be a model, and
he would end their career right there. So the allegations
are out there. A few minutes ago, Jefferies appeared in
court in Florida where he was arrested ten million dollar bond.
He walked out of court, has to remain in Palm
Beach at home until he's told to be in New
York for his arraignment. But if you're Sean Comes, attorneys
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are saying, wait a second, this guy was able to
post ten million dollar bail and walk out. Colmes can't
do anything to get out. He's in jail on very
similar charges and then he remains in But today Jefferies
was able to put up a ten million dollar bond
and walk right out.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
That's interesting because I was thinking that same thing with
Sean Colmes, and not necessarily with the bail, but it's
a very similar kind of situation. But that's a great
point that you know, Mike Jefferies, I'm not sure. I'm
guessing he's probably pretty rich, so he would be considered
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I would think, clearly, not as much as Sean Colmes,
but he would be considered a flight risk just the
same with his connections and worldwide.
Speaker 4 (10:05):
If he does that, though, you're basically going to have
a worldwide man hunt for him. I mean, they're not
going to let you know, the FEDS aren't going to
let that go if he flees. I imagine, especially the
kind of influence and connections he's made, I would imagine
it would be pretty difficult to keep that a secret
in the underground world. If it's like, hey, we got
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the Abercrombie Fitch.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
And where does he go?
Speaker 4 (10:30):
Yeah, where does he go?
Speaker 2 (10:32):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
He's and he's got an electronic monitoring anklet on now
that he's got to wear at all of that. But again,
if you're Combs' attorneys are going, well, wait a second,
what about us, Like why does this guy walk out?
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Now?
Speaker 3 (10:42):
Colmbs has more gun stuff involved, and you know, violence
and and that sort of thing. You remember the surveillance
video in the in the hotel, So there's more going
on there, but very similar counts against both of these guys.
Speaker 1 (10:55):
Race Card in three two what I mean, That's what
I feel like.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
Come up.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
Yeah, we don't know what the the allegations will be
and if Combs's attorneys will even make the case, But
all of a sudden, some legal analysts are saying, get
ready for his attorneys to say not fair. Similar charges
and that this guy was able to walk around and
walk out today.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Hey, on a side note, I heard you know viagra
was involved muscle relaxers, and I go, isn't that counterproductive
like you to take a muscle react unless.
Speaker 4 (11:24):
Poppers are a how can I put this?
Speaker 2 (11:27):
They are known?
Speaker 4 (11:29):
I guess they're They're like a known uh sex party
drug in the gay community. It is from my best
understanding from somebody who poppers, Yeah, popper like you. I
don't know what it is, but I guess you unscrew
a cap and you snort this liquid in it like,
but it's a it's a muscle relaxer, those sorts.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
Yeah, you know.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
We've learned a lot about drugs in the last two days,
talking about pink cocaine yesterday, poppers now yeah.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Oh yeah, since you brought it up.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
We were talking earlier, Alex about a guy in Germany
who owned a pizza place and he was if you
ordered a number forty, it was in Dusseldorf, Dussel. However,
you say, Useeldorf, and if you ordered a number forty
at the Dusseldorf this pizza place, then cocaine came with
the pizza.
Speaker 3 (12:19):
Can you imagine if you accidentally ordered a number forty.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
I don't even know if it was on the menu,
but it was just.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
One, Like no, I said, fourteen, not forty.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
And they go, oh okay, And then they go, well,
we'll take this back to the shop in this bag
of good East.
Speaker 2 (12:36):
Kind of thing. I guess I don't know, all right,
thanks for