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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So I don't know if you heard, but the president
pardoned his son, and there's not a lot of people
are talking about that. But I thought, geez, I can't
believe nobody really wants to address this and kind of
talk about exactly what's happening. Hunter Biden's convictions and upcoming
court dates. He pled guilty to one count tax evasion,
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two counts filing false tax return, both of those are felonies.
Then four counts failure to pay taxes misdemeanor, two counts
failure to file taxes misdemeanor. Found guilty of one count
false statement in purchase of firearm, one count false statement
to license firearms dealer, one count possession of firearm by
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an unlawful user of controlled substance. Then the upcoming court dates.
Sentencing on the gun charges was supposed to take place
on December twelfth in Delaware and sentencing on the tax
charges on December sixteenth in California. So that's where it
stood prior to what President Biden did last night. And
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so this is kind of an interesting thing that has
begun the conversation about this, and so let's bring in
six WTVN legal analysts. Brad Kopfle is joining us. Also
host of for the Defense. Brad welcome in. Hopefully you
had a good Thanksgiving brother.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
I did. Thank you very much. Always an honor to
be on with your great audience.
Speaker 1 (01:28):
Thanks man, I appreciate you joining us. And I sent
you a screenshot of funny thing about pardons. You lose
your Fifth Amendment right, and then somebody went on to
say anything the pardon covers you can't be prosecuted, but
you can be compelled to testify and jailed for contempt
if you refuse. And so I sent that to you
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this morning to kind of get the conversation started to
see if you you know, had thoughts and so on
on this. But it was interesting what you you know,
came back with and you said, you know, geez, I
gotta look this up because that's something that's out there
all over social media right now. So where are you
at on that particular thing.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
First thing, We've got to look at the Supreme Court
of the United States, and there is no declaration from
the Supreme Court on the implication of a pardon and
whether or not that a citizen forfeits his or her
Fifth Amendment right to remain silent. I would easily argue
that it doesn't forfeit your Fifth Amendment right. It shouldn't
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forfeit any of your constitutional rights. More specifically, there are
always state prosecutions available, and that the pardon is only
only covers the federal charges. So I'm sure you could
have some red state attorney general attorney's general looking if
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there's any contact or nexus with their home state, and
Hunter Biden if they wanted to engage in law fair
on a state level, much the way the Democrats did
against Donald Trump on the state level in Georgia and
New York.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Hey. The thing that I struggled with Brad, and I
even put this on socials. Nobody surprised that he did this, because,
you know, months ago when all of that was coming out,
where he was being asked point blank about it, and
he was point blank saying no, he wasn't going to
pardon him, he was going to trust the justice system,
so on and so okay, nobody I didn't believe that
at the time. I was even saying on the air,
I'm like, look, there's no way this guy, when it
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comes down to it, is going to let his son
go to prison when he has the power to do
something like get him out of that, and I really
didn't believe that. So the thing that I struggled with
mostly was the timing and the tactic at which they
went after President Trump and they said nobody is above
the law. Nobody is above the law. That was their mantra.
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For how long we kept hearing that over and over?
Nobody's above the law. And apparently there are some people
that are above the law. They have the last name Biden.
So that's the thing that I'm struggling with the most
out of this entire situation, because I don't believe. I
never believed for a second that this guy was going
to let his son go to prison. I just didn't
believe it.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
I think for sure, I'm not surprised I certainly would
do it. I don't know why at this point in
time Biden wouldn't just pardon everyone was the last name
of Biden, including himself. I don't know. Look, if he's
got this type of presidential power, why not gut and
pardon anyone who may be prosecuted under a potential federal
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abortion ban. Why wouldn't he pardon every death row inmate
who is on death row pursued to federal charges. I mean,
while he's at it, why not just throw in Donald Trump?
I mean, if he really is going to burn the
boats against the Democrats and for the failed coup, well
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the actual the successful coup attempt on himself, and to
say the things that he said leading up to the
election that did not help the Democrat Party, why not
just pardon Trump as well. I think that would be phenomenal.
I doubt that would ever happen. But Blazer, this is
a we got to widen the aperture on this. This pardon.
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You have to ask, Okay, what's it too. It's retroactive
to January one, twenty fourteen, and what's the significance of that?
And that is when the stupendously underqualified drug addict Hunter
Biden was put on an energy board in the most
corrupt nation in the world that we're aware of, Ukraine,
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and paid a big chunk of money every month. And
it goes all the way to twenty fourteen or twenty
twenty four and beyond for crimes not yet discovered. It's
not just those two prosecutions. And as we now know,
the Democrat war machine figured out how to bring state
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charges against Trump that dovetails what I just said about.
Maybe some red state attorney generals will try to figure
out if they can pick the scab of the bidens.
I doubt that happens. However, this is just one machine
gun nest on the beach that Trump and MAGA and
I like the acronym MANA make American normal again. The
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Hunter Biden pardon is just one machine gun nest. The
deep state is not a figment of our imagination. It
is not conspiracy right wing thinking. Originally, what deep state
came from the left. You know. It was the disenfranchised
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or the folks from the left who thought that there
was this big deep state, secret state. Now, I think
most people who are paying attention have to go back
to the early fifties after World War Two. What we
do with that peace dividend? We talk about the peace
dividend after the fall of the Iron Curtain. Why stop there?
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Go all the way back. We were involved when the
Iran regime change in the early fifties. We have had
regime We've been part of regime change all through Central America,
Eastern Europe, Africa. And when you have state actors acting
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on using black budgets very deep inside the Department of Defense.
That money is going. You have almost a trillion dollars
in twenty twenty four and probably a trillion going in
twenty twenty five. That is a giant bank account, and
that money must be put to work someplace during these
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regime changes. Let's not forget the Iran Contra issue from
a matter from the late eighties where the Deep State
sold weapons to Iran in violation of federal law, siphoned
some of that money off into offshore bank accounts that
we're supposed to go to fund Nicaraguen what rebels Olie
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North went to prison for that. These are just little
dots where the deep State acts and gets caught and
then some people go to prison. Here the deep State
gets caught and the deep State each situation could only
have maybe ten or twelve people, you know, the Iran
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Contra was very small number of folks involved in that.
But we're going to find out, and American people really
want to know what all have we been doing with
our hundreds of billions of dollars that are in the
defense budget, and the black budgets that don't get audited,
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don't get published, just trust us. And this is where
a lot of people fell in behind Donald Trump because
they don't want World War three. They don't want war
in Ukraine, in the Middle East. And Trump administration is the
band of brothers that's plowing onto the beachheads and they're
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not stopping in Hunter Biden. They're going all the way
into the Imperial City. The question for America is going
to be are we okay with funding regime changes all
across the world. On the oposite, it's national security. I
think we're going to find out that millions and billions
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of dollars have been diverted to private pockets as we
have walked into Ukraine, Iran, all the stuff that we've done.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Let me let me ask you, because I know we're
limited on time here, But this is Chuck. I. When
a presidential pardon is given, must the pardoner be specifically
named and must the offenses for what you are being
part and also be itemized? Or is this just a
blanket thing twenty fourteen to today? Anything you did during that
period of time.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
I went out, I found I went online. I found
the actual declaration issued by President Biden, and it does
both Chuck. It specifically references the criminal federal criminal prosecution
slash convictions, and it also says for all crimes not
yet discovered. So it's it is the hypocrisy now, the
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crow that is being must be forced down the throats
of mainstream media. And once again, maggot, what turns out
that we've been right all along? But this isn't just
that this will all lead back to money law wondering.
This is how the game has been played at the
highest levels of power. And you have to ask yourself
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that Barack Obama get these these mansions wherever or all
they are just strictly on book deals and speaking engagements.
The Clinton Foundation needs to be looked at all the
n g os. Uh, many of the n g os,
the most prominent being the National Endowment for Democracy NED,
George Soros Open Society, even NSD International. There's a there
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will be connective tissue between your tax dollars those nng
os and arming rebels in various nations. Today it's Syria.
Speaker 1 (11:42):
Do you think do you think that that's on the
docket for Trump when he takes Okay, because that'll be
interesting once that, once that begins to happen. Uh, it's
going to be like what the light switch and the
cockroach is running running for cover?
Speaker 3 (11:57):
Right.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
I think the American people are in for a wake
up call. It went. This is not just hyperbole. We
have not had We have not had war since nineteen
declaration of war, since nineteen forty one. There's a reason
for that. We've had this deep state that has kept
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the rest of the world in chaos. And we have
to decide as a people, are we cool with that
or not? But the American people can absolutely handle the
truth hunter Biden and the clearly the pay to play
scheme in Ukraine, You're going to hear a lot about
pay to play. In China, You're going to hear a
lot about pay to play in various all the stands.
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Kurdistan is Beekistan. You're going to hear about this. And
it doesn't just end with Biden's It goes back to
the Obamas. It's going to go to the Clintons, it
may even go to the Bushes, and so America we
need to be ready for that.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Fascinating WT legal analyst host of for the Defense Brad Kopfel, Brad,
this is incredibly insightful. And you and I going back
and forth earlier too. I was like reading some of
this stuff and I'm just like, Wow, this is huge
and we're about to see it play out real time.
I can't thank you enough for jumping on with us,
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and I know you're like, I need about another hour
and a half.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
We could do four thousand questions on this.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Brad, thank you so much for jumping on with us.
We'll talk again soon.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Awesome. Thanks, see you, brother,