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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Man, some really really good stuff I was reading earlier
today on socials. Never again do I want to hear
Trump's a liar. You can't believe anything he says. Trump
will abuse his power. Trump will only use the system
to benefit himself his family. Never ever again do I
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want to hear this? Why did Hunter need an eleven
year blanket pardon? Going back to twenty fourteen when Joe
Biden was vice president, We're sitting on the biggest cover
up of who knows what crimes and Joe Biden amazingly
knows exactly roughly when it happened. Biden's leaving office. He's
making the strongest possible case for Trump, our government, our
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justice system is of buy and for the elites and
nobody else. That's a great post. You guys can spend
all day long trying to spend this but that it's
Donald Trump's fault, because that seems like the narrative that
is kind of rising from the ashes now, Donald Trump's
fault that because politically Hunter was targeted? Are you freaking
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kidding me? That is really what That's all you got.
That's what the mainstream media is trying to do. Now,
these people are liars, inflation is transitory. Afghanistan it's a success.
The border secure videos are cheap fakes. Biden has a cold.
He'll never drop out, and oh, I'll never pardon Hunter.
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I mean, good lord, we could keep going on and
on and on about all of that stuff, some really
good stuff posted.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
That I told you yesterday. This is going to cost
them in the long run. The ground level, common, ordinary,
everyday people are figuring out the BS factor is very
high and they're sick of getting lied to.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Yep, his name is Mark Weaver, form your former Deputy
ag General of Ohio, Attorney General of Ohio, former DOJ spokesman,
Republican strategist. He penned an op ed in Newsweek about
this very thing. And man, it's really really good. Mark.
Welcome to the Mark Blazer Show for the first time.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
How are you, brother, Good to talk to you. I
give you my word as a Biden that everything Joe
Biden said was true.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Oh man, your article is really really good and gosh,
what are your I mean this? I love it, Biden pardoning.
Hunter proves that being a Biden is a get out
of jail free card and that basically and look, I
feel like is this just the beginning. There's all kinds
of different ways I suppose to start slicing this up.
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But Mark, tell me your thoughts when you first heard this,
or you know, like the rest of America, what I
think it was Sunday night when it all started.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Well, I'll clean it up for drivetime radio. But my
first thought was what Joe Biden said on a hot
mic a few years ago. Nobody f's with a Biden,
except he wasn't quite as clean about that. He was
going to do whatever he has to to preserve his family,
and as I write in the the constitution allows him
to pardon Hunter. I have no quarrel with that, but
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I think we should see the bigger picture. In the
op ed, I point out that one of the founders,
George Mason, the Virginia, a friend of George Washington and
anti federalist, in the debate over the pardon clause at
the convention, he said, and I'm using a twenty first
century language here, Hey, guys, what if we give the
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president a pardon and he uses it to pardon somebody
who has the goods on the president, And that would
be like a big cover up, and it would allow
the president to cover his tracks for his own crime. Again,
that's my words, not his. But he raised that precise concern,
and he should have had a side job as a soothsayer,
because that's exactly what happened here. By saying that Hunter's
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trial won't go forward on tax charges, that means there
won't be testimony about whether or not foreign money went
through Hunter. To Joe Biden, oh.
Speaker 1 (04:02):
Man, yeah, this is when you start. Given the exactness
by the way mark of this sweeping pardon, this indicates
that he knows exactly when the illegal activity began or
when it took place in all of those things. I mean,
the exactness of this going back to what twenty fourteen,
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that's the thing that is the most telling. You know,
I was saying this when we went on the air yesterday,
first time we were able to talk about it clearly
since I'm not on on Sundays. But I said, you know,
the thing that I have the biggest problem with here
is the fact that we heard nobody is above the law.
I see Nancy Pelosi's stupid face saying that I see
all of these different people in this administration, the crime Syndicate,
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all talking about nobody's about the law. Now one's above
the law. And it turns out that you know, if
your last name is Biden, you are above the law.
And I don't know who else we're gonna do you
have any speculations on who else We're going to see
some sort of a pardon from from this president.
Speaker 3 (05:04):
Probably Joe's brother, who is very involved in this, and
any other family members. They've got the Biden privilege, which
is a real thing, and I expect we'll see more pardons.
With respect to what the dates were. You could almost
imagine Hunter in the Oval office guiding his father's hands
as he writes out the dates he want to be
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typed into. Hey, dad, here's some dates. How about this date?
This might work? And Joe's going, whatever you want, Hunter,
You're the smartest person I've ever met, which is of
course another quote from Joe Biden. Now, again, constitutionally, the
president can do it. I've got no quarrel with it legally.
I just think it sends a horrible message for those
of us, the three of us on the line now
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and all your listeners, most of us have had to
fill out that gun form with trepidation, making sure we're
checking the boxes exactly correct, because we don't want to
violate federal law. From now on, people doing that to
themselves will be saying, well, Hunter Biden got a pass
on this. I wonder if I will.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
You know, I fully expect Mark. The next in line
to get a pardon is going to be Joe Biden.
The Supreme Court already ruled on the presidential immunity, which
they hate giving to Donald Trump, but they know they
have no choice that will protect Joe Biden once Hunter
throws him under the bus realizing he's old and no
longer President. Jill is a master manipulator and is everything
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on the evil side of the fence that Nancy Reagan
was ever accused of being on the positive side.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
You called it. I think that's a fair, fair guest.
Here's something else, So though, here's a little of silver
lining for you. Because Hunter Biden has been pardoned. If
he has called up the Capitol Hill to an investigative
committee and asked to testify about what did he know
and who knew what? He can't plead the Fifth Amendment
because you only plead the Fifth Amendment when you're at
risk of prosecution. So he'll have to answer, which might
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be interesting, or if he refuses to answer, that's contempt
of Congress. And I imagine that Trump Justice Department, unlike
the Biden Justice Apartment, will advance a criminal case of
contempt of Congress if Hunter would refuse to testify.
Speaker 1 (07:08):
So we're talking to Mark Weaver, former Deputy ag of Ohio,
former DJ spokesman, Republican strategists. He penned on op ed
and Newsweek about this very thing. Do you really think,
I feel like once Trump takes office and you know,
I don't know. I mean, do you really think they're
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going to continue down this road after Hunter, especially given
the way that this is all playing out and A
and B. I guess the other question is any of
the state stuff is not included in this correct, It's
just federal charges.
Speaker 3 (07:44):
That's exactly right. The president can only pardon for federal
offenses or potential federal offenses. So, now, whether or not
the state district attorneys in the states where Hunter Biden
was running around carrying a gun illegally or doing drugs
or cutting deals or practicing law without the appropriate legal ethics,
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all of the authorities in those states still have the
ability to bring charges. But Hunter did most of his
deeds in blue states, perhaps by choice or maybe by accident,
and so it's unlikely you'll see some of those blue
state prosecutors holding Hunter accountable with state law.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Yeah, that's the thing that I wondered if he's even
going to continue down this road, because, let's face it,
especially given what he's now demanded, with Hamas saying you better, really,
you know, there's going to be hell to pay all
of that stuff. Kind of the headlines, if you will,
from today, and it seems like daily we're getting some
big headlines and the types of things that they've they've
got to get going to get this country back on track.
(08:43):
I don't know that that might my guess would be
there that might be happening, but kind of almost if
you will, in the background. I don't think it's going
to take front and center, do you or do you
think it will take front and center?
Speaker 3 (08:56):
You know, Donald Trump famously in twenty sixteen said lock
her up, and he showed grace and restraint and left
Hillary Clinton alone. During his term, I imagine he will
try to unite the country, which is something that this
pardon did not. The point I made in the op
ed that other presidential pardons over the years have been
a uniting force. This is a divisive force. But I
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like to think that the second term Trump will pay
more attention to the better angels of this nature. To
use Abraham Lincoln quote, and seek to unite us. So
that's what I'm looking toward.
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Mark, do you think he's got a better chance of
uniting Americans by actually draining the swamp, by actually going out,
Not uniting Democrats and Republicans. I don't care about that.
I'm talking about uniting Americans who who are standing up again.
This election is a result of people realizing they have
been lied to, manipulated, told one thing when they obviously
see another. Chicago is turning on their insane mayor right now.
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New York City's mayor is actually saying, you know, maybe
will help the Trump administration with the immigration thing. They
know those blue states that might protect Hunter, they know
that they're about the fold as well. I really think
a little vengeance's mind say that the rest of the
country might be good for uniting us.
Speaker 3 (10:08):
Yeah, I think we're living I think that's a fair point.
We live in disruptive times and it's hard to recognize
it when we're right in the middle of it. But
the American people were angry. Let's recall in twenty twenty two,
Donald Trump's star was on the decline and Ron De
Santis's was on the ride. What fueled the comeback? There's
only one logical answer. The laws there, both in civil
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and criminal courts in Florida, d C. New York, and Georgia.
That's so angered most common sense minded Americans that they
took another look at Donald Trump and that's when he
started his historic climb back to the presidency. And so
disruption is going to be the order of the day,
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and I think you're right a lot of people will
be sharing him on We love the FBI, except when
it's out of control. It needs to be brought back
into control. Federal prosecutors, who I worked with at the
Justice Department, are typically good people except when they're out
of control. So the order of the day has to
be to bring things back to We're doing things by
the book, and it doesn't matter whether you're Red Jersey
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or Blue Jersey. If you broke the law, we're going
to prosecute, and if you didn't, we're going to leave
you alone.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
So I think also too, Mark that Elon buying Twitter
was an enormous turning point with regard to America really
kind of you know, getting the information if you will,
not being shadow banned and all of that. I think
I think they there were people that overall were starting
to see the truth, but I feel like that almost
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kind of accelerated it and and then elevated it. I
think that is a is a was a huge turning point.
And then also another question, do you think that does
this really open up the j six perpse for being pardoned?
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Now?
Speaker 1 (11:53):
I mean, people you keep reading he's setting a bad
president as a bad president and all of that, But
it does something like that really actually get on the
table now?
Speaker 3 (12:05):
I think it will. If Trump is prudent, he will
look at people maybe you punched a police officer in
the face and said, you know what, let's leave your
sentence intact. But people who walked through open doors and
wandered around like tourists who got jail sentences are likely
candidates for pardon. And so I think Donald Trump will
use the pardon power, which he's entitled to do, but
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I'd like to think he'll do it in a more
uniting way than we've seen with this president covering his
family members and essentially covering himself.
Speaker 1 (12:34):
Yeah, very good. Mark Weaver, former Deputy ag of Ohio,
former DOJ spokesman, Republican strategists, and check out his article
in Newsweek the op ed that he penned. It's very good,
and Mark, I really appreciate you jumping on. I had
no idea you and Chuck are buddies and acquaintances, if
you will, so he was telling me earlier, and.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
If I'd say buddies, I don't really like him much.
Speaker 3 (12:57):
He's a good one, that Chuck. We're lucky to have.
I've always good to hear that voice. That's that unmistakable
voice of Chuck.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Yeah, he does have the unmistakable voice that you speak of.
As a matter of fact, somebody who was getting ready
to do a medical procedure, an embarrassing medical procedure, recognized
his voice right before. Wonderful, before it was actually happening.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
I'm about to assert this hose Hey hit you check Diggs. Great, wonderful.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
It's hard to be famost a Chuck.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Sometimes it's a little rough.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Yeah, Mark, Mark Weaver, thanks for jumping on with us today.
Appreciate you man.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
Great to be with you, all right.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Well see, yah, I'm so proud of him. That's that's
nice exposure that that top is a nice exposure for him.
It is in Newsweek.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
I can't believe Newsweek published it because it's not flattering
for for the.
Speaker 2 (13:42):
Last Newsweek doesn't know what they are from one week
to the next anyway, But that's a fact. Yeah, he's
very bright and he's uh, he knows what he's talking about.
So I was very glad that he got that exposure
news Week. Hopefully it'll enlighten a few people around the country.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Yeah, that'd be good.