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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Well this is kind of interesting, and uh, well, let's
bring in Alex Stone from ABC News.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
What's up, brother?
Speaker 3 (00:08):
Now are.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Doing good?
Speaker 1 (00:12):
I I was just thinking the the you know, given
the Oscars and the highest paid Oscar nominees per minute
on screen, it was kind of an interesting and these
are the top ten highest earning Oscar nominees per minute
on screen.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Okay, the ones that were nominated this go around.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
No, no, no, no, this is of all time, I guess,
or at least at one point. But well, no, they're
the highest earning Oscar nominees so as of well right now,
I would imagine, although it's nobody.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
From Pitt and the others, not just yeah, not just
this year. No, Angelina Jolie.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Let's see.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
No, she's not on this list. At number five, Bradley
Cooper appearing once again, this time for A Star Is Born,
where he earned four hundred, nineteen thousand and thirty dollars
for each of the sixty two point two minutes on screen.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
What do you mean new? I thought I thought that
was a good movie.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
No, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (01:10):
I didn't bother to see it, say Chris Christopherson ar
The Star Is Born and that's how it should stay.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Oh they were actually a remake.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Chu's old school.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Yeah, that's right. I don't like remakes.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
At number four, Ryan Gosling for his twenty eight point
nine eight minutes on screen in Barbie, he earned four
hundred thirty one thousand, three hundred.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Thirty two dollars per minute.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Number three Will Smith for King Richard, he earned four
hundred and forty three thousand, six hundred and seven dollars
for each minute that he was on screen. Yeah, what, Chuck,
what are you? Why are you looking like that? I
don't know, you look.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Like you just sucked on a lemon?
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Richard? Really Well, that's that's the list. I didn't make it.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
I mean, it's just what it is.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Joe.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
I know, he's like, I didn't say these are the
greatest films of all time.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Take it easy over it.
Speaker 5 (01:59):
Just say if they're going to show out all that
money for these actors, man, I wish it was for
some better movies. If you would have said it way
back to Independence Day, I go, will.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Well, listen and I don't know where you come down
on this, Alex, but I know that I feel like
I probably know where Chuck comes down and anywhere I
come down. I haven't seen it. Nothing Oscar nominated ever.
I've never seen any of it ever. I've never seen
I haven't even heard of most of it, let alone
seen any of it.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
But that's where I'm at on that.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
More than professional critics like it, the less I'll usually
like it.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Because it's critically acclaimed and all that stuff.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
I want to go see Anora now. But then again,
I don't.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Know my palette, my my My theatrical palette is very simple.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
That's the only way I know to describe it. That's free.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
That's about it.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Joe Peshi is on this list at number two. Believe
this is the top.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Ten highest earning and I started at five to save
us going through the entire list, But Joe Peshi for
the Irishman and that was four hundred and sixty one
thousand and some change a minute. And then Bradley Cooper
is on it again at number one for American Sniper.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Now, that was a good one.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Did you see that, Chuck?
Speaker 4 (03:14):
Everybody did?
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Okay, that's good.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Five hundred and ninety one, almost six hundred thousand dollars
for each of the eighty four point four to eight minutes.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
He was on screen very similar to a paycheck at WTVN, Right,
am I wrong?
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Yes, incredibly. I would put incredibly in front of him.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Some of the other notables in the top ten, Matt Damon,
Al Pacino, Meryl Streep, and Matt Damon. For The Martian,
by the way, I was like, whoa what, Octavia Spencer,
Ryan Gosling.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
So The Martian is one of those movies I watched
on cable, and I watched it twice because I didn't
get it the first time.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
So anyway, with the Oscars last night and all that,
I thought that was kind of interesting and man, it's
great work if you can.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
Get it, as they said it is.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Yeah. Yeah, So gene Hack been honored.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
I saw Morgan Freeman's I saw a clip of that,
you know, the honoring him at the Oscars. The death
still is a is a mystery right now though, Alan.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Yeah, they still don't know. And the sheriff in Santa
Fe County saying that the preliminary tests come back no
carbon monoxide in the blood. That seemed like the most
likely thing of what this was going to be, but
doesn't look like it now.
Speaker 6 (04:25):
He said this, Both individuals tested negative for carbon monoxide.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
So that from the beginning it seemed like that was
probably what it was. And they see no signs of trauma,
and because they had been dead for number of days,
maybe even weeks, that it can be hard sometimes to
find carbon monoxide in the blood. But they aren't totally
ruling it out, but they don't see it in there.
So they've got to figure out what else they may
(04:51):
have had in their system in their blood that they're
going to look into that manner and.
Speaker 6 (04:55):
Cause of death has not been determined. The official results
of the autopsy and toxicology reports are pendy.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
So guys, there are the questions about the pills that
were found around his wife and the sheriff saying that
they were what they found in the home, blood pressure meds,
thyroid medication and tail and all nothing that you would
think of, you know, something that was going to kill you.
So what was the scenario And they don't know. There
were no signs of foul play. They they were not
beaten up, they were not shot. Nothing is suspicious in
(05:25):
this one.
Speaker 6 (05:26):
Autopsy was performed. Initial findings noted no external trauma to
either individual.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
So they got to put it together and some former
coroners are saying, well, maybe he had a heart attack
and then she ran to get the meds, and then
she had a medical episode during the stress, and then
the dog locked in the kennel starved. I mean, it
seems like a lot of coincidence at that point and
a lot of different things going on. Maybe that was it.
They just don't know.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Front door that was open.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
That's the key right there. You last week, the.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Back door, and they think maybe first responders opened it up.
They're not sure or yet, so that may or may
not have been a thing. Okay, but yeah, they've got
nothing indicating that it was something.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Correct, Man, this this is this literally, I don't know.
Does that would toxicology? Does it dissipate if CO two
is in your blood.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
A carbon monoxy? They say, overtime it does. And the
fact two weeks right, he's yeah, he was based on
his pacemaker. She they don't know yet, but yeah, about
two weeks.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Yeah, but she was she started mammifying. Yeah, yeah, how
long does that take?
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Typically weeks to months?
Speaker 2 (06:32):
But that's not making sense.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Yeah, but the sheriff saying they think that they died
about the same time, just based on the evidence that
they've got. So she may have just based on environment
they're in a dry area that that may have gotten
going faster.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
But well, okay, so the obvious other question then is
is the thirty year difference in their ages. Why maybe
she mummified and then he was decomposing but they did
not mention with.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Him at that point. Yeah. I think that he was
walking and then fell, his sunglasses, got tossed a little bit,
and she was in the bathroom with the pills around,
So it still could have been carbon monoxide, but seems
like they would have got a little bit in one
of the bodies and they didn't get any.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
Oh, every speculative that I've heard so far puts it
in that order was something happened to him, so she
went to the bathroom to get Frankly, I think it's backwards.
I think something happened to her. I think Genet ninety
five was searching for his faculties. I think he went
to the front door. Oh my god, I can't go
out the front door. He goes to the mudroom. He's
going to put shoes on. Had a heart attack out
(07:34):
of the fear of the frustration. My wife's laying dead
in the bathroom. I think that's entirely plumed.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
And the dog starves.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Maybe, Yeah, but weren't there other there were two other
or at least one other.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Yeah, they could they could come and go.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Right, but yeah, so I but there, okay, so they
were there as well the other.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Yeah, but there was a doggy door. They could go out,
they could come in.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Man, this is gosh, this is so bizarre, and they'll
have to keep bringing in the next, you know, elevated expert.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
I would think, like, you know, if they can't figure
anything out.
Speaker 5 (08:07):
I can't believe there's not cameras. It's Gene Heckman's house,
for God's sake, I would think there was ninety.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
Five years old over.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
The sheriff saying they respect that he didn't have a
lot of technology. They took his cell phone. They're looking
through that, but beyond that, they don't have a lot.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Yeah, it's definitely a big questions for sure. Alex Stone,
ABC News out of Los Angeles, Alex, thank you very much.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
You got it.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Thanks guy to see you.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Man.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
I don't know that. Ultimately, I want to know.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
How about his kids.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
By the way, it was his daughter that was she
was quoted in one of the articles, and it had
been a couple of weeks since.
Speaker 5 (08:40):
She had spoken. Yeah, she wants to tell everybody how
happy it was. But we haven't talked to him months.
I M really, your your ninety five year old dad
and you haven't talked to him in a couple of months.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
That's that.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Did you see uh?
Speaker 1 (08:55):
And I'm going somewhere with this counselor did you see
h trouble with the curve? Clint Eastwood Amy had justin
Timberlake is actually in this didn't know.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
It's a really good movie. Point being he is.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Clint is just insufferable and it's her dad and he's,
you know, just the guy that's you know, like at
different points where you just go, this guy's impossible, you go.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Man, I'm glad I don't have a dad like that, because.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
He is just really tough to deal with. In this
maybe that was Gene Hackman, That's where I was going
with this. Maybe and you don't have the movie for
the reference, but and you know what I'm talking about
with you know, you get old guys who get to
that age with their kids and who knows, maybe it's
to the point where they it's not like they had
(09:50):
the greatest and I'm speculating maybe they didn't have the
greatest relationships show.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
She didn't speak to him constantly. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Maybe he was really hard to deal with and she
finals is like, ah, you know, and you might some
people would be hard for him to process, going, hey man,
at the end of the day, it's still your dad
or whatever. Yeah, but what about so many people who
are estranged all the way from their parents who they
you know, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
It's hard to say.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
And like I said, ninety five, just him and her
living out there with the dogs. I think even if
we were at odds all the time and everything I
did was wrong, he criticized everything two or three times
a week. I would call hello, Dad, Yeah you did yet, No, okay,
talk to you later, just just because you're ninety five.
I don't know, to think something and maybe this is
(10:38):
a personal fear of mine. Quite frankly, that's something that's
always scared me. I do not want to die and
nobody know about it. And that there was a story
many many years ago, back in the nineties. I remember
that part of the morning show, and then our news
guy read this and I just I was flabbergasted because
the woman sat for months sad in her apartment, did
(11:01):
no friends, no family, nobody bothered to check on her.
And that has always been in the back of my head.
That is a terrifying thing for me to think if
something happens to me, nobody will care enough to notice
for months. And I hope that wasn't the case with him,
I really, I mean, well, he was what.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Do they speculate two weeks ten days, two weeks ten
days for day.
Speaker 5 (11:25):
Yeah, the seventeenth of Jebruary was the last known, but
he was activity on the pacemaker.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Alex just cited the pacemaker as the last activity on there,
which would indicate I mean, that's got to be pretty accurate,
given that it was in use on a normal basis
prior to that. Then it stopped being in use, which
that would be a tailtale. It wouldn't even be a
guess at that point. It would have to be accurate. So, yeah,
(11:54):
if the seventeenth was the last time they found him
on the twenty seventh, that's ten days, so it's not
like he went months and months.
Speaker 6 (12:03):
But.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
She was longer. They say, I mean that.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Well, with the mummification, I feel like that has to
be so did she did she go? And he just
didn't realize because he was I don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Nobody's saying, well, there was dementia thought. I don't know.
I don't know if any of that is even going
to come out. Man, this is such a hedge scratch.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
Yeah it is.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
And there I guess the for me, the fascination is
just because of who it is, because it's Gene Hackman.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
You know, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (12:37):
So you want some good news, Oh, give it to me. Uh,
you know, big Lots stores closing not so fast. I'm
looking at the list of those that are going to
remain open, and Ohio is well represented if you're a
Big Lots fan.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Oh they are multiple at Ohio.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
But yes, is it list a bunch?
Speaker 5 (12:56):
Yeah, that's quite a few all over the state of
It's the law longest list that I have seen so
far as state by state that will be staying open
as they try to rebrand and move the company forward.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Yea, it is good news.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
Yes, it is, including my one down on Hoover Oa
and Grove City. It's staying open, so you go there sometimes. Yeah,
I like it. Yeah, I used to drive all the
way down to Washington Courthouse.
Speaker 6 (13:18):
Now.
Speaker 5 (13:18):
It was the coolest big lots I'd ever been in.
It was like a department store. It was like going
into a Macy's, a Jacobson's or something, but it was
big lots. But it was so cool the way that
store was put together, and they kept it and yeah,
well that is good news.
Well this is kind of interesting, and uh, well, let's
bring in Alex Stone from ABC News.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
What's up, brother?
Speaker 3 (00:08):
Now are.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
Doing good?
Speaker 1 (00:12):
I I was just thinking the the you know, given
the Oscars and the highest paid Oscar nominees per minute
on screen, it was kind of an interesting and these
are the top ten highest earning Oscar nominees per minute
on screen.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Okay, the ones that were nominated this go around.
Speaker 1 (00:30):
No, no, no, no, this is of all time, I guess,
or at least at one point. But well, no, they're
the highest earning Oscar nominees so as of well right now,
I would imagine, although it's nobody.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
From Pitt and the others, not just yeah, not just
this year. No, Angelina Jolie.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
Let's see.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
No, she's not on this list. At number five, Bradley
Cooper appearing once again, this time for A Star Is Born,
where he earned four hundred, nineteen thousand and thirty dollars
for each of the sixty two point two minutes on screen.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
What do you mean new? I thought I thought that
was a good movie.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
No, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (01:10):
I didn't bother to see it, say Chris Christopherson ar
The Star Is Born and that's how it should stay.
Speaker 4 (01:14):
Oh they were actually a remake.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Chu's old school.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Yeah, that's right. I don't like remakes.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
At number four, Ryan Gosling for his twenty eight point
nine eight minutes on screen in Barbie, he earned four
hundred thirty one thousand, three hundred.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Thirty two dollars per minute.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Number three Will Smith for King Richard, he earned four
hundred and forty three thousand, six hundred and seven dollars
for each minute that he was on screen. Yeah, what, Chuck,
what are you? Why are you looking like that? I
don't know, you look.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Like you just sucked on a lemon?
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Richard? Really Well, that's that's the list. I didn't make it.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
I mean, it's just what it is.
Speaker 3 (01:53):
Joe.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
I know, he's like, I didn't say these are the
greatest films of all time.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
Take it easy over it.
Speaker 5 (01:59):
Just say if they're going to show out all that
money for these actors, man, I wish it was for
some better movies. If you would have said it way
back to Independence Day, I go, will.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Well, listen and I don't know where you come down
on this, Alex, but I know that I feel like
I probably know where Chuck comes down and anywhere I
come down. I haven't seen it. Nothing Oscar nominated ever.
I've never seen any of it ever. I've never seen
I haven't even heard of most of it, let alone
seen any of it.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
But that's where I'm at on that.
Speaker 5 (02:28):
More than professional critics like it, the less I'll usually
like it.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Because it's critically acclaimed and all that stuff.
Speaker 3 (02:34):
I want to go see Anora now. But then again,
I don't.
Speaker 1 (02:37):
Know my palette, my my My theatrical palette is very simple.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
That's the only way I know to describe it. That's free.
Speaker 3 (02:46):
That's about it.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
Joe Peshi is on this list at number two. Believe
this is the top.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Ten highest earning and I started at five to save
us going through the entire list, But Joe Peshi for
the Irishman and that was four hundred and sixty one
thousand and some change a minute. And then Bradley Cooper
is on it again at number one for American Sniper.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
Now, that was a good one.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Did you see that, Chuck?
Speaker 4 (03:14):
Everybody did?
Speaker 2 (03:14):
Okay, that's good.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Five hundred and ninety one, almost six hundred thousand dollars
for each of the eighty four point four to eight minutes.
Speaker 3 (03:22):
He was on screen very similar to a paycheck at WTVN, Right,
am I wrong?
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Yes, incredibly. I would put incredibly in front of him.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Some of the other notables in the top ten, Matt Damon,
Al Pacino, Meryl Streep, and Matt Damon. For The Martian,
by the way, I was like, whoa what, Octavia Spencer,
Ryan Gosling.
Speaker 5 (03:44):
So The Martian is one of those movies I watched
on cable, and I watched it twice because I didn't
get it the first time.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
So anyway, with the Oscars last night and all that,
I thought that was kind of interesting and man, it's
great work if you can.
Speaker 4 (03:58):
Get it, as they said it is.
Speaker 2 (04:00):
Yeah. Yeah, So gene Hack been honored.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
I saw Morgan Freeman's I saw a clip of that,
you know, the honoring him at the Oscars. The death
still is a is a mystery right now though, Alan.
Speaker 3 (04:13):
Yeah, they still don't know. And the sheriff in Santa
Fe County saying that the preliminary tests come back no
carbon monoxide in the blood. That seemed like the most
likely thing of what this was going to be, but
doesn't look like it now.
Speaker 6 (04:25):
He said this, Both individuals tested negative for carbon monoxide.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
So that from the beginning it seemed like that was
probably what it was. And they see no signs of trauma,
and because they had been dead for number of days,
maybe even weeks, that it can be hard sometimes to
find carbon monoxide in the blood. But they aren't totally
ruling it out, but they don't see it in there.
So they've got to figure out what else they may
(04:51):
have had in their system in their blood that they're
going to look into that manner and.
Speaker 6 (04:55):
Cause of death has not been determined. The official results
of the autopsy and toxicology reports are pendy.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
So guys, there are the questions about the pills that
were found around his wife and the sheriff saying that
they were what they found in the home, blood pressure meds,
thyroid medication and tail and all nothing that you would
think of, you know, something that was going to kill you.
So what was the scenario And they don't know. There
were no signs of foul play. They they were not
beaten up, they were not shot. Nothing is suspicious in
(05:25):
this one.
Speaker 6 (05:26):
Autopsy was performed. Initial findings noted no external trauma to
either individual.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
So they got to put it together and some former
coroners are saying, well, maybe he had a heart attack
and then she ran to get the meds, and then
she had a medical episode during the stress, and then
the dog locked in the kennel starved. I mean, it
seems like a lot of coincidence at that point and
a lot of different things going on. Maybe that was it.
They just don't know.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Front door that was open.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
That's the key right there. You last week, the.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
Back door, and they think maybe first responders opened it up.
They're not sure or yet, so that may or may
not have been a thing. Okay, but yeah, they've got
nothing indicating that it was something.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Correct, Man, this this is this literally, I don't know.
Does that would toxicology? Does it dissipate if CO two
is in your blood.
Speaker 3 (06:16):
A carbon monoxy? They say, overtime it does. And the
fact two weeks right, he's yeah, he was based on
his pacemaker. She they don't know yet, but yeah, about
two weeks.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Yeah, but she was she started mammifying. Yeah, yeah, how
long does that take?
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Typically weeks to months?
Speaker 2 (06:32):
But that's not making sense.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Yeah, but the sheriff saying they think that they died
about the same time, just based on the evidence that
they've got. So she may have just based on environment
they're in a dry area that that may have gotten
going faster.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
But well, okay, so the obvious other question then is
is the thirty year difference in their ages. Why maybe
she mummified and then he was decomposing but they did
not mention with.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Him at that point. Yeah. I think that he was
walking and then fell, his sunglasses, got tossed a little bit,
and she was in the bathroom with the pills around,
So it still could have been carbon monoxide, but seems
like they would have got a little bit in one
of the bodies and they didn't get any.
Speaker 5 (07:13):
Oh, every speculative that I've heard so far puts it
in that order was something happened to him, so she
went to the bathroom to get Frankly, I think it's backwards.
I think something happened to her. I think Genet ninety
five was searching for his faculties. I think he went
to the front door. Oh my god, I can't go
out the front door. He goes to the mudroom. He's
going to put shoes on. Had a heart attack out
(07:34):
of the fear of the frustration. My wife's laying dead
in the bathroom. I think that's entirely plumed.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
And the dog starves.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Maybe, Yeah, but weren't there other there were two other
or at least one other.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
Yeah, they could they could come and go.
Speaker 1 (07:48):
Right, but yeah, so I but there, okay, so they
were there as well the other.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
Yeah, but there was a doggy door. They could go out,
they could come in.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Man, this is gosh, this is so bizarre, and they'll
have to keep bringing in the next, you know, elevated expert.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
I would think, like, you know, if they can't figure
anything out.
Speaker 5 (08:07):
I can't believe there's not cameras. It's Gene Heckman's house,
for God's sake, I would think there was ninety.
Speaker 4 (08:11):
Five years old over.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
The sheriff saying they respect that he didn't have a
lot of technology. They took his cell phone. They're looking
through that, but beyond that, they don't have a lot.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
Yeah, it's definitely a big questions for sure. Alex Stone,
ABC News out of Los Angeles, Alex, thank you very much.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
You got it.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Thanks guy to see you.
Speaker 2 (08:28):
Man.
Speaker 4 (08:29):
I don't know that. Ultimately, I want to know.
Speaker 2 (08:31):
How about his kids.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
By the way, it was his daughter that was she
was quoted in one of the articles, and it had
been a couple of weeks since.
Speaker 5 (08:40):
She had spoken. Yeah, she wants to tell everybody how
happy it was. But we haven't talked to him months.
I M really, your your ninety five year old dad
and you haven't talked to him in a couple of months.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
That's that.
Speaker 2 (08:54):
Did you see uh?
Speaker 1 (08:55):
And I'm going somewhere with this counselor did you see
h trouble with the curve? Clint Eastwood Amy had justin
Timberlake is actually in this didn't know.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
It's a really good movie. Point being he is.
Speaker 1 (09:12):
Clint is just insufferable and it's her dad and he's,
you know, just the guy that's you know, like at
different points where you just go, this guy's impossible, you go.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Man, I'm glad I don't have a dad like that, because.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
He is just really tough to deal with. In this
maybe that was Gene Hackman, That's where I was going
with this. Maybe and you don't have the movie for
the reference, but and you know what I'm talking about
with you know, you get old guys who get to
that age with their kids and who knows, maybe it's
to the point where they it's not like they had
(09:50):
the greatest and I'm speculating maybe they didn't have the
greatest relationships show.
Speaker 2 (09:55):
She didn't speak to him constantly. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (09:58):
Maybe he was really hard to deal with and she
finals is like, ah, you know, and you might some
people would be hard for him to process, going, hey man,
at the end of the day, it's still your dad
or whatever. Yeah, but what about so many people who
are estranged all the way from their parents who they
you know, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (10:16):
It's hard to say.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
And like I said, ninety five, just him and her
living out there with the dogs. I think even if
we were at odds all the time and everything I
did was wrong, he criticized everything two or three times
a week. I would call hello, Dad, Yeah you did yet, No, okay,
talk to you later, just just because you're ninety five.
I don't know, to think something and maybe this is
(10:38):
a personal fear of mine. Quite frankly, that's something that's
always scared me. I do not want to die and
nobody know about it. And that there was a story
many many years ago, back in the nineties. I remember
that part of the morning show, and then our news
guy read this and I just I was flabbergasted because
the woman sat for months sad in her apartment, did
(11:01):
no friends, no family, nobody bothered to check on her.
And that has always been in the back of my head.
That is a terrifying thing for me to think if
something happens to me, nobody will care enough to notice
for months. And I hope that wasn't the case with him,
I really, I mean, well, he was what.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Do they speculate two weeks ten days, two weeks ten
days for day.
Speaker 5 (11:25):
Yeah, the seventeenth of Jebruary was the last known, but
he was activity on the pacemaker.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
Alex just cited the pacemaker as the last activity on there,
which would indicate I mean, that's got to be pretty accurate,
given that it was in use on a normal basis
prior to that. Then it stopped being in use, which
that would be a tailtale. It wouldn't even be a
guess at that point. It would have to be accurate. So, yeah,
(11:54):
if the seventeenth was the last time they found him
on the twenty seventh, that's ten days, so it's not
like he went months and months.
Speaker 6 (12:03):
But.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
She was longer. They say, I mean that.
Speaker 1 (12:07):
Well, with the mummification, I feel like that has to
be so did she did she go? And he just
didn't realize because he was I don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
Nobody's saying, well, there was dementia thought. I don't know.
I don't know if any of that is even going
to come out. Man, this is such a hedge scratch.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
Yeah it is.
Speaker 1 (12:28):
And there I guess the for me, the fascination is
just because of who it is, because it's Gene Hackman.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
You know, I don't know.
Speaker 5 (12:37):
So you want some good news, Oh, give it to me. Uh,
you know, big Lots stores closing not so fast. I'm
looking at the list of those that are going to
remain open, and Ohio is well represented if you're a
Big Lots fan.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Oh they are multiple at Ohio.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
But yes, is it list a bunch?
Speaker 5 (12:56):
Yeah, that's quite a few all over the state of
It's the law longest list that I have seen so
far as state by state that will be staying open
as they try to rebrand and move the company forward.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
Yea, it is good news.
Speaker 4 (13:07):
Yes, it is, including my one down on Hoover Oa
and Grove City. It's staying open, so you go there sometimes. Yeah,
I like it. Yeah, I used to drive all the
way down to Washington Courthouse.
Speaker 6 (13:18):
Now.
Speaker 5 (13:18):
It was the coolest big lots I'd ever been in.
It was like a department store. It was like going
into a Macy's, a Jacobson's or something, but it was
big lots. But it was so cool the way that
store was put together, and they kept it and yeah,
well that is good news.
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