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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, let the recovery begin, right. Welcome to the show.
Thank you for listening. Mark Blazer and Chuck Douglas is with.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Me, accounted four and fully conscious.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
I might add I was gonna say, how are you
recovering or has it been almost nail on it? Have
you had any trouble?
Speaker 2 (00:18):
You know, this is really weird. Last night I barely
slept it all, and I feel fine about it. It's
it's really strange. The kids have had more trouble with
the time thing than I have.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
And you know, you were just telling me this is
an interesting part of this. Literally last week you were like, man,
you know, I am feeling so tired, and You're like,
I got so much sleep. I got a really good
night's sleep, and I don't know why I'm tired. It
is bizarre how it works, though, you know.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Yeah, last night I finally got in bed about twelve thirty,
and by one thirty the dog wanted to go outside.
And then I was up again until about three thirty,
and then up again at six, and I'm still good.
I don't get it.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Well, we'll see. There are a lot of people who
probably are not in your situation. I'm feeling okay as well,
but I'm running on a lot of adrenaline. Let's bring
in a certified sleep science coach and wellness expert nausea
and it's is it Martinez or Martinez?
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Nasha? It's Martinez Martinez.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
All right, Nasha, thank you so much, by the way,
welcome to the show, and thanks for jumping on with us.
This is a this is a thing, and you just
heard us kind of talking about it here for a
little bit. Take us through. First of all, the circadium
rhythm is I think the culprit in this situation, it
kind of gets out of whack, isn't it. I mean,
is that part of it?
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Yeah, you're absolutely right. So the circadian rhythm, or your
body's internal clock, operates on a twenty four hour cycle,
so this significantly influences your sleep wake patterns, which are
guided by environmental cues light and darkness. So even throwing
it off by just an hour or you can experience
(02:00):
this when you travel right and there's a time difference
in your body experiences jet lag. So there are a
few techniques that we can walk through just to help
people adjust to.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
The new time. Yeah, so what are some of those techniques?
I mean, is this something somebody could do if they're
in their car listening right now, or should they probably wait?
Speaker 3 (02:20):
They should probably wait until they get home.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Okay, yeah, because it involves I'm guessing closing your eyes or.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Something as a nap, so we don't want.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
To do that on the road. Absolutely, please please wait
until you get home. So I would recommend before going
to bed tonight setting up a good bedtime routine. Write
something that will help ease your body into sleep. So
this can look like anything that works for you.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Write.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Some people enjoy meditating, some people might find relaxing taking
a warm bath, just like sending an hour before bed
with no technology, just to queue to your mind it's
time to go to bed. About how about?
Speaker 1 (02:59):
How about is that something you have on your list
or no?
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Well, the thing is with bourban is that it may
help you relax, but it probably won't help you long
term to stay asleep, like it might wake you up.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Thank you for putting up with my sleep dress. Well,
thanks for putting up with my silliness, because clearly I
had to throw that one in there. I was like,
right in the middle of this list. I'm guessing, yeah,
that was probably not something on your list. But continue, Nasha, continue, please.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Yeah, absolutely, So, like I mentioned, a warm bath, reading,
so anything that really helps you relax. And then tomorrow morning,
I recommend waking up and getting sunlight first thing in
the morning. So that could look like taking a walk
around your block, or if you live somewhere that's called
where I am in New York City, that could look
like opening your curtains, drinking your coffee next to a window,
(03:47):
just making sure that you're getting sunlight because that'll cue
your body and your natural cortisal level, so it will
help regulate your twenty four hour cycle.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
We're talking to Nasha, certified sleep science coach and wellness expert.
Of course, we all lost an hour of sleep over
the weekend. Daylight saving time is up on us, and yeah,
now it gets dark earlier again for a little while,
until you know, we kind of catch up with the
way that the sun's rising and setting. A lot of
people were getting used to having a decent amount of
(04:18):
daylight kind of early on, and then this happens and
then boom, it's dark again. So that's not helping people
get out of this funk that they're in either. But
NASA also if you could talk to the cardiac event
is a real thing with something like this, And is
it just basically the stress of you know, the stuff
that we're talking about. Your circadian rhythm is off and
(04:41):
you're just feeling groggy and so on, so it just
adds to the stress. Is that kind of what's at
the root of this?
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Absolutely, all of those things that you mentioned, and also
just like daily stressors, So people who have kids and
now they have to navigate right with their kids and
going to school and waking up a little bit earlier,
so all of that can contryu to them.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Okay, all right. So the other thing that I think
is always something a lot of people, for whatever reason,
they will they'll cut a corner when they're buying for
whatever reason, and maybe earlier on in life it's because
of finances. But it's so important, and we talk about
this and it should never be looked over or don't
sleep on it, or do sleep on it, I should say,
(05:23):
But the type of mattress that you get because of
all of the hours, what do we spend a third
of our life sleeping something like that?
Speaker 3 (05:31):
It is a third of our lives, So a third
of our day goes to sleeping and sleeping affects every
aspect of your well being, right. It affects your mood,
it affects your cognitive function short term and long term,
and it affects the way you perform if you're an
athlete or working out. It affects all of that. So
it's super important that you get quality sleep. And one
(05:52):
of as you mentioned, one of the most overlooked factors
is your mattress. So I always suggest, like, if you're
in the market for a new mattress, is taking some
things into consideration. So the most important thing is your
preferred sleeping position. So if you are a side sleeper,
you'll want a softer mattress to really pressure from your
shoulder and your hips. If you're a side or backsleeper,
(06:14):
you'll probably want something that's a little firmer because you
want to ensure that you have proper spinal alignment. And
this is where it gets tough. If you sleep with
a partner and you have different sleeping positions or preferences,
then trying to find a mattress that works for both
of you can be a little challenging. So I always
recommend getting a medium firmness on your mattress to make
(06:37):
sure that both of you feel comfortable on there.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
You know what we're talking to Nasha who is a
certified sleep science coach wellness expert, and of course losing
an hour of sleep over the week and everybody dealing
with daylight saving time. Now we're talking about the mattress
right there. You talk about sleep positions, and you know myself,
I'm married as well as Chuck, we're both married. We
have but do you have any advice if there's a
(07:01):
dog in the mix as far as sleeping in the bed,
because maybe I tell my wife sometimes I'm like, I've
had it the way the dog moves around and they're
always messing around doing something, and I don't know that
there's anything for that except kick them out. I suppose no,
I mean.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
I fear you. I have a cat who also gets
like midnight zoomy's and always wakes me up. What something
that that's helped me is number one, ensuring that my
mattress has enough motion isolation. So when you're testing out
a mattress, you'll want to see the balance on it.
Because also, like if your partner is someone who tosses
and turns all night, you'll also feel that recoil, which
(07:40):
could also wake you up. So making sure that you
have a mattress that passes what we call the water
glass test, but we actually put a glass of water
on the mattress and we'll jump on it and see
how much it moves. Yeah, you can find that on
our website. We do a lot of fun testing with
our mattresses.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
I can tell you once upon a time I had
a i mean really bouncy mattress. Unfortunately, and uh when whenever, yeah,
she would flip over, everyone almost bounced me out of
the bed.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
I was like, literally, yes, I know, it was crazy.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
I was like, I gotta do something. I gotta change
this up because that's not gonna fly. But unfortunately, at
the time, I wasn't in the position to get anything new,
so I just kept dealing with it. And uh, but yeah,
that's that is so important because when they move, it's
like it wakes you up, especially if you're like for me,
being the man of the household and you're you kind
of sleep light anyway, because you know, you're you're trying
(08:33):
to protect everybody. You know, I have a couple of
kids and my wife, and so it's you know, throw
that in the mix, and it's like it makes for
a disaster sometimes trying to get a night's sleep, you
know exactly.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
And also like if you have a large dog, it
sometimes helps to put a blanket near the foot of
your bed and trying them to sleep on there. So
that way, that also absorbs a lot of like the
motion if they're moving around a lot.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Very good, all right, She's not Artine has a certified
sleep science coach and wellness expert. Nasha, thank you so
much for joining us. And yeah, here's hoping some of
your some of your advice gets taken to heart by
some people who are struggling out there. But Nasha, thank
you so much.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
You're welcome, all right. So, yeah, like you were saying, Chuck,
I don't know you said, Lupa. Does Lupa sleep there
with you guys?
Speaker 2 (09:22):
And if I can get away with it, the Queen
is not one to have the dog in the bed.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
See, it's it's kind of opposite for us at different points.
And I was I struggled with you know, Esther was
doing just fine sleeping in the kennel when we first
got her for over a year and then one night
I just kept feeling so bad that we cause get
what happens is downstairs. You know how the temperatures are different.
(09:46):
If you like, in the summer, we pull the air down,
the ac down, so it would be a much colder downstairs.
And you know, temperatures usually, you know, heat rises, so
it takes it to be a little lower to get
the upstairs a little cooler and more comfortable. And I
used to struggle with I'm like, she's down there freezing
in her because she's on the first level, and I
(10:07):
just I swear it was killing me. And I kept
saying it over and over, and finally Jenny's like, and
it was just funny watching Esther's face too. She's like,
what am I? What am I doing in here? I'm
nut spoke, This isn't my bed. It was just the
most bizarre thing. But it only took her like two nights,
and now it's her pat and I'm just visiting right with.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
The whole and I can get away with this because
I know she's not listening right now. I sleep better
without the Queen, but happier with the Queen.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
That's a good way to put it, because.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
When she's there, I'm you know, I'm accommodating the way
she's laying or if she you know, is kung fu
fighting in her sleep or something, because sometimes she'll do
that just out of note, the little snore will she'll
go and then all of a sudden and I get
a foot in the face or whatever. So yeah, I
try to accommodate that, and I don't sleep necessarily very well.
(10:59):
Now when she's not there, I sleep wonderfully, but I'm
not happy because she's not there.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
I can't stop laughing about the kung fu fighting man
because some people it's mostly kids I think that do that.
I'm fortunate that Jenny's never done anything like that, But
forget it when we start talking about kids. I mean,
my son can get violent and all of a sudden,
you know, he's halfway he rotates somehow, he does half
(11:25):
of a curly shuffle in the bed, you know, so
he starts out in the normal position and then he
gets and I'm just like, nah na, nah, this ain't
gonna fly. And you try to put him back and
they start swinging or whatever. It's just like Geez I.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Was telling her this morning. When you start talking like
that because I laid there. I told you I didn't
sleep much over it. I and she's going at it
and I'm just laying there with my head on my hand,
looking at her, and I'm thinking I've done married a
Japanese woman because I don't even know what she's saying,
but she just goes on. And the louder it gets
to know more, I know I need to get farther
from her because here it comes.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Man, what at least you're and it figured out that's
half the battle, right, I mean
Speaker 2 (12:02):
You know, knowing when to duck is how you win
eventually
All right, let the recovery begin, right. Welcome to the show.
Thank you for listening. Mark Blazer and Chuck Douglas is with.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Me, accounted four and fully conscious.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
I might add I was gonna say, how are you
recovering or has it been almost nail on it? Have
you had any trouble?
Speaker 2 (00:18):
You know, this is really weird. Last night I barely
slept it all, and I feel fine about it. It's
it's really strange. The kids have had more trouble with
the time thing than I have.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
And you know, you were just telling me this is
an interesting part of this. Literally last week you were like, man,
you know, I am feeling so tired, and You're like,
I got so much sleep. I got a really good
night's sleep, and I don't know why I'm tired. It
is bizarre how it works, though, you know.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Yeah, last night I finally got in bed about twelve thirty,
and by one thirty the dog wanted to go outside.
And then I was up again until about three thirty,
and then up again at six, and I'm still good.
I don't get it.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Well, we'll see. There are a lot of people who
probably are not in your situation. I'm feeling okay as well,
but I'm running on a lot of adrenaline. Let's bring
in a certified sleep science coach and wellness expert nausea
and it's is it Martinez or Martinez?
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Nasha? It's Martinez Martinez.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
All right, Nasha, thank you so much, by the way,
welcome to the show, and thanks for jumping on with us.
This is a this is a thing, and you just
heard us kind of talking about it here for a
little bit. Take us through. First of all, the circadium
rhythm is I think the culprit in this situation, it
kind of gets out of whack, isn't it. I mean,
is that part of it?
Speaker 3 (01:39):
Yeah, you're absolutely right. So the circadian rhythm, or your
body's internal clock, operates on a twenty four hour cycle,
so this significantly influences your sleep wake patterns, which are
guided by environmental cues light and darkness. So even throwing
it off by just an hour or you can experience
(02:00):
this when you travel right and there's a time difference
in your body experiences jet lag. So there are a
few techniques that we can walk through just to help
people adjust to.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
The new time. Yeah, so what are some of those techniques?
I mean, is this something somebody could do if they're
in their car listening right now, or should they probably wait?
Speaker 3 (02:20):
They should probably wait until they get home.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Okay, yeah, because it involves I'm guessing closing your eyes or.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
Something as a nap, so we don't want.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
To do that on the road. Absolutely, please please wait
until you get home. So I would recommend before going
to bed tonight setting up a good bedtime routine. Write
something that will help ease your body into sleep. So
this can look like anything that works for you.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Write.
Speaker 3 (02:45):
Some people enjoy meditating, some people might find relaxing taking
a warm bath, just like sending an hour before bed
with no technology, just to queue to your mind it's
time to go to bed. About how about?
Speaker 1 (02:59):
How about is that something you have on your list
or no?
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Well, the thing is with bourban is that it may
help you relax, but it probably won't help you long
term to stay asleep, like it might wake you up.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Thank you for putting up with my sleep dress. Well,
thanks for putting up with my silliness, because clearly I
had to throw that one in there. I was like,
right in the middle of this list. I'm guessing, yeah,
that was probably not something on your list. But continue, Nasha, continue, please.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Yeah, absolutely, So, like I mentioned, a warm bath, reading,
so anything that really helps you relax. And then tomorrow morning,
I recommend waking up and getting sunlight first thing in
the morning. So that could look like taking a walk
around your block, or if you live somewhere that's called
where I am in New York City, that could look
like opening your curtains, drinking your coffee next to a window,
(03:47):
just making sure that you're getting sunlight because that'll cue
your body and your natural cortisal level, so it will
help regulate your twenty four hour cycle.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
We're talking to Nasha, certified sleep science coach and wellness expert.
Of course, we all lost an hour of sleep over
the weekend. Daylight saving time is up on us, and yeah,
now it gets dark earlier again for a little while,
until you know, we kind of catch up with the
way that the sun's rising and setting. A lot of
people were getting used to having a decent amount of
(04:18):
daylight kind of early on, and then this happens and
then boom, it's dark again. So that's not helping people
get out of this funk that they're in either. But
NASA also if you could talk to the cardiac event
is a real thing with something like this, And is
it just basically the stress of you know, the stuff
that we're talking about. Your circadian rhythm is off and
(04:41):
you're just feeling groggy and so on, so it just
adds to the stress. Is that kind of what's at
the root of this?
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Absolutely, all of those things that you mentioned, and also
just like daily stressors, So people who have kids and
now they have to navigate right with their kids and
going to school and waking up a little bit earlier,
so all of that can contryu to them.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
Okay, all right. So the other thing that I think
is always something a lot of people, for whatever reason,
they will they'll cut a corner when they're buying for
whatever reason, and maybe earlier on in life it's because
of finances. But it's so important, and we talk about
this and it should never be looked over or don't
sleep on it, or do sleep on it, I should say,
(05:23):
But the type of mattress that you get because of
all of the hours, what do we spend a third
of our life sleeping something like that?
Speaker 3 (05:31):
It is a third of our lives, So a third
of our day goes to sleeping and sleeping affects every
aspect of your well being, right. It affects your mood,
it affects your cognitive function short term and long term,
and it affects the way you perform if you're an
athlete or working out. It affects all of that. So
it's super important that you get quality sleep. And one
(05:52):
of as you mentioned, one of the most overlooked factors
is your mattress. So I always suggest, like, if you're
in the market for a new mattress, is taking some
things into consideration. So the most important thing is your
preferred sleeping position. So if you are a side sleeper,
you'll want a softer mattress to really pressure from your
shoulder and your hips. If you're a side or backsleeper,
(06:14):
you'll probably want something that's a little firmer because you
want to ensure that you have proper spinal alignment. And
this is where it gets tough. If you sleep with
a partner and you have different sleeping positions or preferences,
then trying to find a mattress that works for both
of you can be a little challenging. So I always
recommend getting a medium firmness on your mattress to make
(06:37):
sure that both of you feel comfortable on there.
Speaker 1 (06:39):
You know what we're talking to Nasha who is a
certified sleep science coach wellness expert, and of course losing
an hour of sleep over the week and everybody dealing
with daylight saving time. Now we're talking about the mattress
right there. You talk about sleep positions, and you know myself,
I'm married as well as Chuck, we're both married. We
have but do you have any advice if there's a
(07:01):
dog in the mix as far as sleeping in the bed,
because maybe I tell my wife sometimes I'm like, I've
had it the way the dog moves around and they're
always messing around doing something, and I don't know that
there's anything for that except kick them out. I suppose no,
I mean.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
I fear you. I have a cat who also gets
like midnight zoomy's and always wakes me up. What something
that that's helped me is number one, ensuring that my
mattress has enough motion isolation. So when you're testing out
a mattress, you'll want to see the balance on it.
Because also, like if your partner is someone who tosses
and turns all night, you'll also feel that recoil, which
(07:40):
could also wake you up. So making sure that you
have a mattress that passes what we call the water
glass test, but we actually put a glass of water
on the mattress and we'll jump on it and see
how much it moves. Yeah, you can find that on
our website. We do a lot of fun testing with
our mattresses.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
I can tell you once upon a time I had
a i mean really bouncy mattress. Unfortunately, and uh when whenever, yeah,
she would flip over, everyone almost bounced me out of
the bed.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
I was like, literally, yes, I know, it was crazy.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
I was like, I gotta do something. I gotta change
this up because that's not gonna fly. But unfortunately, at
the time, I wasn't in the position to get anything new,
so I just kept dealing with it. And uh, but yeah,
that's that is so important because when they move, it's
like it wakes you up, especially if you're like for me,
being the man of the household and you're you kind
of sleep light anyway, because you know, you're you're trying
(08:33):
to protect everybody. You know, I have a couple of
kids and my wife, and so it's you know, throw
that in the mix, and it's like it makes for
a disaster sometimes trying to get a night's sleep, you
know exactly.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
And also like if you have a large dog, it
sometimes helps to put a blanket near the foot of
your bed and trying them to sleep on there. So
that way, that also absorbs a lot of like the
motion if they're moving around a lot.
Speaker 1 (08:58):
Very good, all right, She's not Artine has a certified
sleep science coach and wellness expert. Nasha, thank you so
much for joining us. And yeah, here's hoping some of
your some of your advice gets taken to heart by
some people who are struggling out there. But Nasha, thank
you so much.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
You're welcome, all right. So, yeah, like you were saying, Chuck,
I don't know you said, Lupa. Does Lupa sleep there
with you guys?
Speaker 2 (09:22):
And if I can get away with it, the Queen
is not one to have the dog in the bed.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
See, it's it's kind of opposite for us at different points.
And I was I struggled with you know, Esther was
doing just fine sleeping in the kennel when we first
got her for over a year and then one night
I just kept feeling so bad that we cause get
what happens is downstairs. You know how the temperatures are different.
(09:46):
If you like, in the summer, we pull the air down,
the ac down, so it would be a much colder downstairs.
And you know, temperatures usually, you know, heat rises, so
it takes it to be a little lower to get
the upstairs a little cooler and more comfortable. And I
used to struggle with I'm like, she's down there freezing
in her because she's on the first level, and I
(10:07):
just I swear it was killing me. And I kept
saying it over and over, and finally Jenny's like, and
it was just funny watching Esther's face too. She's like,
what am I? What am I doing in here? I'm
nut spoke, This isn't my bed. It was just the
most bizarre thing. But it only took her like two nights,
and now it's her pat and I'm just visiting right with.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
The whole and I can get away with this because
I know she's not listening right now. I sleep better
without the Queen, but happier with the Queen.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
That's a good way to put it, because.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
When she's there, I'm you know, I'm accommodating the way
she's laying or if she you know, is kung fu
fighting in her sleep or something, because sometimes she'll do
that just out of note, the little snore will she'll
go and then all of a sudden and I get
a foot in the face or whatever. So yeah, I
try to accommodate that, and I don't sleep necessarily very well.
(10:59):
Now when she's not there, I sleep wonderfully, but I'm
not happy because she's not there.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
I can't stop laughing about the kung fu fighting man
because some people it's mostly kids I think that do that.
I'm fortunate that Jenny's never done anything like that, But
forget it when we start talking about kids. I mean,
my son can get violent and all of a sudden,
you know, he's halfway he rotates somehow, he does half
(11:25):
of a curly shuffle in the bed, you know, so
he starts out in the normal position and then he
gets and I'm just like, nah na, nah, this ain't
gonna fly. And you try to put him back and
they start swinging or whatever. It's just like Geez I.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Was telling her this morning. When you start talking like
that because I laid there. I told you I didn't
sleep much over it. I and she's going at it
and I'm just laying there with my head on my hand,
looking at her, and I'm thinking I've done married a
Japanese woman because I don't even know what she's saying,
but she just goes on. And the louder it gets
to know more, I know I need to get farther
from her because here it comes.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
Man, what at least you're and it figured out that's
half the battle, right, I mean
Speaker 2 (12:02):
You know, knowing when to duck is how you win
eventually
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I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!