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Speaker 1 (00:00):
All right, I got a couple things for our Columbus
(00:05):
Blue Jackets Jackets in action tonight. The Reds are in
Milwaukee for a first game one of a four game set,
I should say, versus the Brewers, who their record is
worse than the Reds. I was like, what, because typically
the Brewers are right around. I know, I know, it's
only we're only what six seven games into it, excuse me,
(00:26):
six seven games into the into Major League Baseball. But still,
it's just one of those things. It's like, okay, a
little nervous here. Back to CBJ coming off that dynamic
win on Tuesday night. Man, I was in the house
watching Carill Marchenko get his hattie, and you know, man,
it was just excitement, excitement, excitement. So they have their
(00:48):
work cut out for him tonight. It's a very good
Colorado Avalanche team coming into Nationwide Arena in the quest
for a playoff spot continues. And yeah, I am scared.
I really am scared because this is a very very
good team. I think they have forty five wins Colorado
does So are you going No, I'm not gonna not
gonna head down tonight, but I'll be watching, of course.
(01:11):
So but I'm excited for the Jackets. We need so yeah,
the Canadians, the Montreal Canadians the other night, if if
they would have lost, and they were losing until nine
seconds left in the game. On Tuesday night, they were
playing the reigning Stanley Cup champions and they took it
(01:31):
to overtime and ended up winning three two, beating at
the Panthers, and I was just like, you gotta be kidding.
I'm going back and forth with mcgelligan after the game,
but I'm like, how about that win, that eight to
four win for the Jackets, And he's like, Montreal pulled
it out and that's who they need to get pass
to get to that second playoff, the wild card playoff spot.
(01:51):
So didn't you say somebody set you a thing that
was like, tell tell Blue Jackets Blazer that a tear
jacket's there's a tariff when they play a Canadian team
that we scored two goals, we only get one. Yeah,
something along those lines, which I thought was funny. It
(02:14):
was that was pretty cute, kind of funny. Let's bring
in He's spokesman for energy advocacy group Power the Future,
Larry Larry Barns is joining us now and Larry, welcome
again to the Mark Blazer Show. How you been brother?
Speaker 2 (02:29):
It sounds like you're in the middle of a playoff hunt.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Yeah, it for the Jackets certainly. And I believe we
have nine games either eight or nine games left, and
we are so close right now. I think we stand
at I want to say, seventy seven points roughly somewhere
around there. And like I was just talking about Montreal,
we need them to kind of come back a little bit.
They're ahead of us by I think two points are
one point, and so with all those games left and
(02:54):
so on. But it was unlikely that they ended up
winning the other night, and somehow they did, Like I said,
they took it overtime with nine seconds left. I'm like,
you've got to be kidding me. But they're clawing and
scratching as well. There's so many really good teams that
are right there trying to get in as a playoff spot.
But that's just it. That's excitement happening in this area
(03:15):
for our Columbus Blue Jackets. And you know, we've only
been to the postseason I think six or seven times
since we started in two thousand, so we are starved
for that here in the Columbus area.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Man, So well, it's someone who doesn't follow closely. I
could just stay with confidence. I'm on your side. Beat Canada.
That's all. That's all important, that's all.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
The sentence ends with, beat Canada. I'm into That's.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Good Man, that's good. Hey. So, yesterday we watched Liberation Day,
and you know, it is interesting with the markets going in.
They were I think the Dow was up over over
one hundred points yesterday and then of course as we've
seen today, boy, it's it's not good as far as
what's happening with that, with the reciprocal tariffs and all
(04:00):
of that, with America's top trading partners and all of that.
But this is interesting everybody. I feel like this whole situation,
Larry is everybody playing checkers. Trump is playing chess. And yeah,
there's going to be some paining, you know, coming up here.
I don't know how long there will be some, but
then there's going to be some really good things that
(04:21):
are happening during that time as well. Unfortunately, most of
the legacy media, if not all of it, will not
they won't focus at all on any of the good
things that will be happening during this and then on
the other end, when you come out on the other
end and we're better for it. They're certainly not going
to focus on those types of things. But I thought
it was interesting that, you know, President Trump, and this
(04:43):
is according to what you were said, that he's considering
this bold trade strategy with he couldn't do it without
the strength of America's energy sector right now. So again
it's like he's playing chess and everybody else is playing checkers.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Yeah, you're absolutely right. And first of all, let's just say,
anybody who complains about prices but was more than happy
to endorse the Inflationial Reduction Act just needs to set
this one out right that delivered the highest prices. If
it blows me away to see folks on the left
all of a sudden care about prices like an arsonist
all of a sudden caring about the heat. So what
President Trump is trying to do is reshuffle the situation.
(05:18):
And yeah, when the system is not working, then it's
not going to respond well to the medicine that it gets.
But it's going to work out just fine. And the
reason we're able to administer it is as I wrote
and as you mentioned, is because of our energy situation.
There are countries on this planet that are not blessed
with energy and the energy workers that we have. And
so the fact is United States needs about twenty million
(05:41):
barrels a day of energy. We produce close to thirteen
or just over thirteen, maybe sometimes fourteen million, and so
we do have to import some. But when you look
at countries like Canada, you look at countries like China,
they have to import a whole lot more than they
than they can produce.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
That's a did you I was just listening to what
Larry had to say. I mean, I think Trump is
a big picture guy, and I hope he's looking at
big picture when it comes to energy. I paid three
point forty nine a gallon to day for my gasoline.
That did not make me happy. So drill, baby, drill.
But in addition to the fossil fuels, I hope that
we're also looking at talking about considering and planning on
(06:18):
bringing back nuclear energy. It's far safer than it was
during Three Mile Island. And we also need to look
at protection of our electric grid in this country because
I think we are extremely vulnerable there. These are not
only practical but strategic considerations as far as I'm concerned.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Yeah, you're You're absolutely right, and you know, President Trump
mentioned it yesterday. We don't even get our medicine from
the United States. I mean everyone, I tell my kids
try to be self reliant as much as you can
in your life, and we as a nation need to
do that as well. And so that includes the products
we make. Thankfully, because of geography, our nation can make
the energy that that we were we are going to need,
(06:54):
but we're to your point, we're going to need more
energy and nuclear is absolutely part of that mix. Because
if we're going to have these factories that are currently
out of the country come relocate here, then they're going
to need power to do it. And that's before I
even mentioned you know, AI and the power we're gonna need.
So our demand is only going to increase and we're
in a position, thankfully to meet that demand. And that
(07:16):
makes it so that other countries can't mess with us
when we try to strengthen ourselves through fair trade.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
So, and Larry Barons is joining us now. He is
a spokesman for energy avacy advocacy group Power the Future.
So what what Trump knows the reason that he's betting
on this, and this is I think basically kind of
at the nucleus of what you're talking about, is Trump
is betting on this situation. And clearly, you know, depending
(07:42):
on who you are, there are a lot of people
who they're not real happy. He's not real popular with
some of the people in America now with prices heading
the way they're heading, and we're seeing with some people's
four oh one k and and you know, all of
those things, a lot of people losing money on Wall Street.
But it's the strength of our energy sector that he
is betting on, knowing that that is where the main
(08:04):
strength lies, that is at the origin of this and
that will drive this thing to where we will come
out on the other side better for it.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Totally agree, and let's look at it. When we talk
about manufacturing in the United States, sadly, over the last
thirty forty years, that's been a pretty sad story. But
manufacturing and an energy sector over the last ten to
fifteen years has just exploded, you know, Biden administration. Notwithstanding,
we have the capacity to bring manufacturing of our own
energy here to the United States, and we're going to
(08:35):
need more of it. So that absolutely helps insulate us
when something that is so critical. So when we talk
about going against China and saying we want it more fair,
we're going to start raising to us. Naturally, they're going
to do it to us as well. They can't do
it to something as fundamental as energy because we have
the opportunity here to make it ourselves and our worker
we have the workforce to do it ourselves, and hopefully
(08:56):
the next part that will follow is a stronger manufacturing
work force in many, many other areas, so we can
start having a whole lot more of tax that they
made in the USA.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Yeah, Larry, Also Chuck and I it was during one
of the breaks that Chuck brings up. He's like, you know,
Trump was talking about income tax. Now this isn't you know,
clearly part of the energy sector. But this is this
is part of this plan moving forward. And you would
talk to me, Chuck about the income tax and the
fact that he was it was something to do with that.
(09:28):
I know, you don't have it up in front of
you right now.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
In twenty twenty five, if you make one hundred and
fifty grand, you can expect to pay twenty five five
hundred dollars in federal tax, not not not Social Security
or Medicare, anything, just in federal income tax. So I mean,
if you're making one hundred and fifty, out of that
one hundred and fifty, you're going to have one hundred
and seventy five to five if we eliminate the federal
income tax in favor of a consumption tax or sales
tax or whatever, which means you get your choice on
(09:54):
how how much you pay in taxes as opposed to
the government confiscating it from your check. I think that's
a wonderful idea.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Yeah, and I agree, And let's take a look at sorry, hey,
to turn it back to energy. But on the energy guy, Yeah,
when we pull you know, these resources out of the ground,
natural gas, oil, coal, there is a severance tax on
that and that helps boost coffers in state and in Washington.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
D C.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Without raising any type of income tax. But to your point,
you're absolutely right on income tax. And I know the
leptist ears perk up when you say someone makes over
one hundred and fifty thousand, blahlah blah. That's so many
of our small business owners because their business is tied
to their personal income, and so they're not taking that
money home and hoarding it like Scrooge McDuck. They are
employing people and building things. And so if they have
(10:40):
an opportunity to get a tax break because we can
get more revenue because we're producing more energy, then that's
a win win for everybody.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Hey, Larry, where can people go online to read more
about this? And you know the fact that the strength
of America's energy sector is the bold sits behind the
bold trade strategy here. Where can they go to read
about that?
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Yeah? Well, they can find out more about us at
Powerthefuture dot com and I have the Brent spanking new
off ed up today talking about this that real clear energy.
So they can just search for the name or it
may be on the front page.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
All right, very good spokesman for energy advocacy group Power
the Future, Larry Barons. Larry, thanks very much to jump
jumping on with me today and good to talk to you.
Thanks for coming on.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Thanks so much, Mark, Good luck to Blue Jackets Beat Canada.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Thanks brother. I appreciate that man. You gotta like that. Yeah,
he's a good dude and it's an interesting read too
with him as well. Smart guy, and I like the angle.
And it makes total sense that the type of stuff
that he was saying, which is why I wanted to,
you know, bring him on with the energy.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Independence is the key to so so very much, especially
when it comes to, you know, the stranglehold quite frankly,
that the Middle East has on this country, not only
economically but politically. We have to we have to kiss
certain posteriors in certain ways, basically to keep his I'll
see if on top of everything we have to consider
for this country, when we are no longer beholding to
(12:05):
them to power this country, we will be much stronger.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Yeah, no question, no question. You know. Also, oh, you know,
real quick, I was, you know, I was going back
and forth with Don Ross earlier today Ross Wealth Advisors,
and I go, hey, man, I bet you're uh, you
are busy today talking everybody off the ledge. He goes, actually, no,
I'm not. But he said, I did send a message
(12:30):
to my clients, and he said, I just wanted to
quickly touch base regarding the recent market moves new tariffs
now that are underway. While this may feel a bit
unsettling and the short term, these steps are part of
the longer term strategy that is going to ultimately benefit
the US economy down the road. Markets may react with
volatility and the near term, but they have a strong
history of recovery and resilience. And if you have any questions,
(12:53):
you'll like to chat further, we're here. Caller text me
directly as well, have a blessed a don So that's
stuff that he was sending to him his clients, But yeah,
picking his brain earlier, he's like, yeah, you know what.
And that goes to show that people that are with
him with Ross Weld Advisors, they're well versed in these
kinds of things and they're but unfortunately a lot of
people scrambling and panicking, if you will, today
All right, I got a couple things for our Columbus
(00:05):
Blue Jackets Jackets in action tonight. The Reds are in
Milwaukee for a first game one of a four game set,
I should say, versus the Brewers, who their record is
worse than the Reds. I was like, what, because typically
the Brewers are right around. I know, I know, it's
only we're only what six seven games into it, excuse me,
(00:26):
six seven games into the into Major League Baseball. But still,
it's just one of those things. It's like, okay, a
little nervous here. Back to CBJ coming off that dynamic
win on Tuesday night. Man, I was in the house
watching Carill Marchenko get his hattie, and you know, man,
it was just excitement, excitement, excitement. So they have their
(00:48):
work cut out for him tonight. It's a very good
Colorado Avalanche team coming into Nationwide Arena in the quest
for a playoff spot continues. And yeah, I am scared.
I really am scared because this is a very very
good team. I think they have forty five wins Colorado
does So are you going No, I'm not gonna not
gonna head down tonight, but I'll be watching, of course.
(01:11):
So but I'm excited for the Jackets. We need so yeah,
the Canadians, the Montreal Canadians the other night, if if
they would have lost, and they were losing until nine
seconds left in the game. On Tuesday night, they were
playing the reigning Stanley Cup champions and they took it
(01:31):
to overtime and ended up winning three two, beating at
the Panthers, and I was just like, you gotta be kidding.
I'm going back and forth with mcgelligan after the game,
but I'm like, how about that win, that eight to
four win for the Jackets, And he's like, Montreal pulled
it out and that's who they need to get pass
to get to that second playoff, the wild card playoff spot.
(01:51):
So didn't you say somebody set you a thing that
was like, tell tell Blue Jackets Blazer that a tear
jacket's there's a tariff when they play a Canadian team
that we scored two goals, we only get one. Yeah,
something along those lines, which I thought was funny. It
(02:14):
was that was pretty cute, kind of funny. Let's bring
in He's spokesman for energy advocacy group Power the Future,
Larry Larry Barns is joining us now and Larry, welcome
again to the Mark Blazer Show. How you been brother?
Speaker 2 (02:29):
It sounds like you're in the middle of a playoff hunt.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Yeah, it for the Jackets certainly. And I believe we
have nine games either eight or nine games left, and
we are so close right now. I think we stand
at I want to say, seventy seven points roughly somewhere
around there. And like I was just talking about Montreal,
we need them to kind of come back a little bit.
They're ahead of us by I think two points are
one point, and so with all those games left and
(02:54):
so on. But it was unlikely that they ended up
winning the other night, and somehow they did, Like I said,
they took it overtime with nine seconds left. I'm like,
you've got to be kidding me. But they're clawing and
scratching as well. There's so many really good teams that
are right there trying to get in as a playoff spot.
But that's just it. That's excitement happening in this area
(03:15):
for our Columbus Blue Jackets. And you know, we've only
been to the postseason I think six or seven times
since we started in two thousand, so we are starved
for that here in the Columbus area.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Man, So well, it's someone who doesn't follow closely. I
could just stay with confidence. I'm on your side. Beat Canada.
That's all. That's all important, that's all.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
The sentence ends with, beat Canada. I'm into That's.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Good Man, that's good. Hey. So, yesterday we watched Liberation Day,
and you know, it is interesting with the markets going in.
They were I think the Dow was up over over
one hundred points yesterday and then of course as we've
seen today, boy, it's it's not good as far as
what's happening with that, with the reciprocal tariffs and all
(04:00):
of that, with America's top trading partners and all of that.
But this is interesting everybody. I feel like this whole situation,
Larry is everybody playing checkers. Trump is playing chess. And yeah,
there's going to be some paining, you know, coming up here.
I don't know how long there will be some, but
then there's going to be some really good things that
(04:21):
are happening during that time as well. Unfortunately, most of
the legacy media, if not all of it, will not
they won't focus at all on any of the good
things that will be happening during this and then on
the other end, when you come out on the other
end and we're better for it. They're certainly not going
to focus on those types of things. But I thought
it was interesting that, you know, President Trump, and this
(04:43):
is according to what you were said, that he's considering
this bold trade strategy with he couldn't do it without
the strength of America's energy sector right now. So again
it's like he's playing chess and everybody else is playing checkers.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Yeah, you're absolutely right. And first of all, let's just say,
anybody who complains about prices but was more than happy
to endorse the Inflationial Reduction Act just needs to set
this one out right that delivered the highest prices. If
it blows me away to see folks on the left
all of a sudden care about prices like an arsonist
all of a sudden caring about the heat. So what
President Trump is trying to do is reshuffle the situation.
(05:18):
And yeah, when the system is not working, then it's
not going to respond well to the medicine that it gets.
But it's going to work out just fine. And the
reason we're able to administer it is as I wrote
and as you mentioned, is because of our energy situation.
There are countries on this planet that are not blessed
with energy and the energy workers that we have. And
so the fact is United States needs about twenty million
(05:41):
barrels a day of energy. We produce close to thirteen
or just over thirteen, maybe sometimes fourteen million, and so
we do have to import some. But when you look
at countries like Canada, you look at countries like China,
they have to import a whole lot more than they
than they can produce.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
That's a did you I was just listening to what
Larry had to say. I mean, I think Trump is
a big picture guy, and I hope he's looking at
big picture when it comes to energy. I paid three
point forty nine a gallon to day for my gasoline.
That did not make me happy. So drill, baby, drill.
But in addition to the fossil fuels, I hope that
we're also looking at talking about considering and planning on
(06:18):
bringing back nuclear energy. It's far safer than it was
during Three Mile Island. And we also need to look
at protection of our electric grid in this country because
I think we are extremely vulnerable there. These are not
only practical but strategic considerations as far as I'm concerned.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
Yeah, you're You're absolutely right, and you know, President Trump
mentioned it yesterday. We don't even get our medicine from
the United States. I mean everyone, I tell my kids
try to be self reliant as much as you can
in your life, and we as a nation need to
do that as well. And so that includes the products
we make. Thankfully, because of geography, our nation can make
the energy that that we were we are going to need,
(06:54):
but we're to your point, we're going to need more
energy and nuclear is absolutely part of that mix. Because
if we're going to have these factories that are currently
out of the country come relocate here, then they're going
to need power to do it. And that's before I
even mentioned you know, AI and the power we're gonna need.
So our demand is only going to increase and we're
in a position, thankfully to meet that demand. And that
(07:16):
makes it so that other countries can't mess with us
when we try to strengthen ourselves through fair trade.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
So, and Larry Barons is joining us now. He is
a spokesman for energy avacy advocacy group Power the Future.
So what what Trump knows the reason that he's betting
on this, and this is I think basically kind of
at the nucleus of what you're talking about, is Trump
is betting on this situation. And clearly, you know, depending
(07:42):
on who you are, there are a lot of people
who they're not real happy. He's not real popular with
some of the people in America now with prices heading
the way they're heading, and we're seeing with some people's
four oh one k and and you know, all of
those things, a lot of people losing money on Wall Street.
But it's the strength of our energy sector that he
is betting on, knowing that that is where the main
(08:04):
strength lies, that is at the origin of this and
that will drive this thing to where we will come
out on the other side better for it.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Totally agree, and let's look at it. When we talk
about manufacturing in the United States, sadly, over the last
thirty forty years, that's been a pretty sad story. But
manufacturing and an energy sector over the last ten to
fifteen years has just exploded, you know, Biden administration. Notwithstanding,
we have the capacity to bring manufacturing of our own
energy here to the United States, and we're going to
(08:35):
need more of it. So that absolutely helps insulate us
when something that is so critical. So when we talk
about going against China and saying we want it more fair,
we're going to start raising to us. Naturally, they're going
to do it to us as well. They can't do
it to something as fundamental as energy because we have
the opportunity here to make it ourselves and our worker
we have the workforce to do it ourselves, and hopefully
(08:56):
the next part that will follow is a stronger manufacturing
work force in many, many other areas, so we can
start having a whole lot more of tax that they
made in the USA.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Yeah, Larry, Also Chuck and I it was during one
of the breaks that Chuck brings up. He's like, you know,
Trump was talking about income tax. Now this isn't you know,
clearly part of the energy sector. But this is this
is part of this plan moving forward. And you would
talk to me, Chuck about the income tax and the
fact that he was it was something to do with that.
(09:28):
I know, you don't have it up in front of
you right now.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
In twenty twenty five, if you make one hundred and
fifty grand, you can expect to pay twenty five five
hundred dollars in federal tax, not not not Social Security
or Medicare, anything, just in federal income tax. So I mean,
if you're making one hundred and fifty, out of that
one hundred and fifty, you're going to have one hundred
and seventy five to five if we eliminate the federal
income tax in favor of a consumption tax or sales
tax or whatever, which means you get your choice on
(09:54):
how how much you pay in taxes as opposed to
the government confiscating it from your check. I think that's
a wonderful idea.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Yeah, and I agree, And let's take a look at sorry, hey,
to turn it back to energy. But on the energy guy, Yeah,
when we pull you know, these resources out of the ground,
natural gas, oil, coal, there is a severance tax on
that and that helps boost coffers in state and in Washington.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
D C.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Without raising any type of income tax. But to your point,
you're absolutely right on income tax. And I know the
leptist ears perk up when you say someone makes over
one hundred and fifty thousand, blahlah blah. That's so many
of our small business owners because their business is tied
to their personal income, and so they're not taking that
money home and hoarding it like Scrooge McDuck. They are
employing people and building things. And so if they have
(10:40):
an opportunity to get a tax break because we can
get more revenue because we're producing more energy, then that's
a win win for everybody.
Speaker 1 (10:46):
Hey, Larry, where can people go online to read more
about this? And you know the fact that the strength
of America's energy sector is the bold sits behind the
bold trade strategy here. Where can they go to read
about that?
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Yeah? Well, they can find out more about us at
Powerthefuture dot com and I have the Brent spanking new
off ed up today talking about this that real clear energy.
So they can just search for the name or it
may be on the front page.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
All right, very good spokesman for energy advocacy group Power
the Future, Larry Barons. Larry, thanks very much to jump
jumping on with me today and good to talk to you.
Thanks for coming on.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
Thanks so much, Mark, Good luck to Blue Jackets Beat Canada.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
Thanks brother. I appreciate that man. You gotta like that. Yeah,
he's a good dude and it's an interesting read too
with him as well. Smart guy, and I like the angle.
And it makes total sense that the type of stuff
that he was saying, which is why I wanted to,
you know, bring him on with the energy.
Speaker 3 (11:42):
Independence is the key to so so very much, especially
when it comes to, you know, the stranglehold quite frankly,
that the Middle East has on this country, not only
economically but politically. We have to we have to kiss
certain posteriors in certain ways, basically to keep his I'll
see if on top of everything we have to consider
for this country, when we are no longer beholding to
(12:05):
them to power this country, we will be much stronger.
Speaker 1 (12:08):
Yeah, no question, no question. You know. Also, oh, you know,
real quick, I was, you know, I was going back
and forth with Don Ross earlier today Ross Wealth Advisors,
and I go, hey, man, I bet you're uh, you
are busy today talking everybody off the ledge. He goes, actually, no,
I'm not. But he said, I did send a message
(12:30):
to my clients, and he said, I just wanted to
quickly touch base regarding the recent market moves new tariffs
now that are underway. While this may feel a bit
unsettling and the short term, these steps are part of
the longer term strategy that is going to ultimately benefit
the US economy down the road. Markets may react with
volatility and the near term, but they have a strong
history of recovery and resilience. And if you have any questions,
(12:53):
you'll like to chat further, we're here. Caller text me
directly as well, have a blessed a don So that's
stuff that he was sending to him his clients, But yeah,
picking his brain earlier, he's like, yeah, you know what.
And that goes to show that people that are with
him with Ross Weld Advisors, they're well versed in these
kinds of things and they're but unfortunately a lot of
people scrambling and panicking, if you will, today
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