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May 19, 2025 9 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So Joe Biden's cancer has a Gleason score of nine.
And you know, that seemed to be one of the
headlines from this weekend. And I'll be honest and look,
having a everybody knows Demetrius passed from prostate cancer and
it was a horrible situation.

Speaker 2 (00:20):
If he brought that up to me, it's lost on me.

Speaker 1 (00:24):
I don't I don't remember him talking about it, but
I remember, well, I don't remember him ever mentioning Gleason score.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
Never heard of it until this morning.

Speaker 1 (00:35):
So I think it's interesting because there was a breakdown
in an article of It's pretty. It's pretty, It's pretty
kind of fascinating. So it's a grading system for prostate cancer.
And this is according to the Cleveland Clinic. So it
ranges from six, which is a low grade cancer, to

(00:55):
a ten, which is considered a high grade cancer. That's
the Gleason score. The lower the scale, the lower the
cancer is and more likely that it will grow slowly. Now,
the scores are then slotted into grade groups ranging from
grade group one to Grade group five, and so the
scores categorized as Grape Group one will be most likely

(01:18):
slowly to grow, spread slowly and then Grade five, of course,
is most likely to grow and spread quickly. His is
a Gleason score of nine out of ten and a
grade group of five.

Speaker 2 (01:30):
So that's why they're talking about. That means, by the.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
Way the cells look different from healthy cells are likely
to grow and spread more quickly. The Gleason score created
through something similar to a point system. They go on
to say it uses five different grades or patterns to
determine how much the cancer looks like a normal prostate
the tissue in the prostate, and the cancer that's assigned

(01:54):
to grade one looks more like normal prostate tissue, but
grade five looks very abnormal. Doctor sees two different patterns
of cancer cells in the prostate, they'll add those scores together.
For example, if the pathologist gives the cancer cells in
the most common pattern a grade of three, and then
the cancer cells in the second most common pattern a
grade of four, the total Gleason score then would be seven.

(02:16):
And this is often written on the pathology report. They
actually will, We'll spell it out three plus four equals
seven out of ten. They'll actually put that on the score.
People with scores of six or higher will then have
their cancer categorized into grade groups mentioned above, and then
they go on to talk about the Gleas and score
of prostate cancer based on the results of one's prostate

(02:37):
biopsy or surgery, and then they talk about the scoring
system and all of that. I think you kind of
get the gist of how this works, but I thought
it was pretty interesting how they do that and what
the Gleason score is, and then the grade group.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
I was unaware of all of that.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
The American Cancer Society estimating they'll be around three hundred
and thirteen seven and eighty new cases state cancer this year.
Thirty five and seventy deaths will occur, and they talk
about around one and eight men will be diagnosed with
prostate cancer. One in forty four will die from it.
So most of the time they say, you will not
die from it if you get prostate cancer as a diagnosis.

(03:17):
And now with with Joe Biden, we're seeing it already
it already spread to his bone.

Speaker 3 (03:23):
How this this is, this is my dilima, that's how
this is the you know, immediate past president of the
United States of America, a member of the United States Senate,
a vice president, a two term vice president before that.
How with all of the medical care at his disposal.

(03:45):
How is it at this stage? Why is this not
something that was caught. Was he not getting exams? Where
the doctors not doing what they It just doesn't make
sense to me that we've got on from I'm leaving
the White House to stage four nine on the gleas
and scale prostate cancer. So this should not have This

(04:09):
shouldn't have happened by surprise. Even if he had it,
there should have been some running time, not zero to
sixty one point two seconds.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
And some speculating.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
Now why they are dropping this bomb if you will,
And this is a shining example, Axelrod from CNN saying
the mental acuity discussion around Biden should be set aside
during the cancer diagnosis. You know, because Axios just dropped
that audio where he's clearly disheveled. He doesn't This was

(04:40):
in twenty twenty three. He was a guy who should
not have been running this country. It is so obvious
from that. And look, if you're saying, well, there's some
medication that gives him clarity or brings him to the
forefront and he's able to, I don't even know about that.
If you require medication that make you lucid or able

(05:01):
to run the country. What happens if that medicine doesn't
work or during the times that maybe forgets. I mean,
there's all so many different ways to process this.

Speaker 3 (05:14):
And are they are they trying to, you know, find
a way to devote or divert you from thinking about
what he was doing to run the country, or are they
trying to keep you from thinking about who was running
the correctry?

Speaker 2 (05:23):
Correct?

Speaker 1 (05:25):
And you know, right away, Donald Trump Junior tweets out
and immediately people start attacking him.

Speaker 2 (05:32):
But what he said is not wrong.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
He's talking about a twenty twenty two video where Biden
says he has cancer.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
Do you remember.

Speaker 1 (05:39):
I'm sure you saw the clip of it over the
Maybe you haven't, Okay, I don't think I am, because
that's part of this whole thing right now where that
clip is resurfaced. And by the way, I just did
a little search for it while right during the break.
Because of the Internet, it is, it's like next.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
To impossible to find it. Isn't that interesting? I remember, dude,
every single person is complicit, all of the legacy media.
Anyway he does.

Speaker 3 (06:06):
Us during the campaign. Remember, if you let me president,
we're going to find a cure for cancer. It would
make sense why that was one of his priorities.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
So what what Trump Junior says is interesting. He goes
Joe says he had cancer two years ago. Everyone said
it's a gaff. He clearly had dementia. Everyone said he's lucid.
And then now he's no longer useful. They're all shocked
that they missed it. Everyone was in on this cover
up who was running the country. We need accountability. Listen,
don't say it's don't say it's insensitive to start that

(06:36):
conversation now. The conversation needs to be had now more
than ever. And it's not really being mean to the
president during or the ex you know, the ex president
as this diagnosis is awful, there's no question about that.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
But does that mean then he gets a pass.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
And everybody associated with him who's not suffering from the
problems that he's having, and they were all in on this,
they were all complicit, So everybody gets a pass.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
I mean, it's very obvious what has been happening here.

Speaker 1 (07:08):
Man, This has to This cannot just go away and
be swept under the rug.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
This can't happen this way.

Speaker 1 (07:15):
And you know, vance is already Vice President Vance is
already being strung up because he's starting to ask questions
about you know and saying, you know, they need to
be honest about this. They just need to be honest.
And he said, look, this isn't politics. It's not because
I disagree with him on policy. It's because I don't
think that he was in good enough health to be

(07:36):
running the country, and so they need to be honest
about all of these things. And at one thousand percent
makes sense to me.

Speaker 3 (07:44):
Sorry, you leaned up to the mic like you were
going to say, actually, I was secretly communicating with Zach
telling him to check his email because I think I
may have the audio you're looking for.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
Ah too, Okay, well we can play that. That was
from twenty twenty two where he said that, and they're.

Speaker 2 (07:57):
Like, oh, it was a gaff. He didn't mean that.

Speaker 3 (08:01):
There's a lot of There was a gaff going on
during the Biden administration.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
There was a lot of it.

Speaker 3 (08:06):
And if I sound hard, I'm sorry. Of course I
feel over the man. I feel for the people that
love him. However, it is what it is, the politics,
the administration, the policies and so forth. Those standing I'm
sorry but they are still open to criticism and his
health notwithstanding.

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