September 6, 2024 • 40 mins
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Kiwi Crusier-Weight boxer and one of the best-looking athletes in the world David Nyika joined G Lane & Manaia Stewart in a special episode of The Agenda.
The fellas quiz him on what's the biggest animal he could defeat in a fight in the ring, almost dying while training with Israel Adesanya and how many waves of five-year-olds he could survive... Plus, they preview his upcoming fight against Tommy Karpency.
Then the fellas put David through the ACC's infamous '22 In 2' questions...
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Live for the Export Be Again Studio and brought to you,
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is the Agenda Podcast for the sixth of September.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
The Agenda Podcast, the home of Sporting Nonsense, said Clap Trap,
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Speaker 1 (00:15):
And it is a great pleasure to welcome into the
studio David Good David, Hey, gun Mate's.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Good to be here, bro, thanks for having me.
Speaker 4 (00:21):
That's the story.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Will wind week will in a few days for you.
Hasn't it been? When did you first find out that
old mate was not going to be able to fight?
Speaker 4 (00:29):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (00:30):
Well, the positive test came about like five weeks ago,
last end of July, so it's actually been a long time.
But we were trying to make the fight still happen.
I still wanted to fight Blake, But now that we've
got this new guy, Tommy Carpenti, he's actually a better
body to fight.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
If you know what I mean, Like he won't be
as negative.
Speaker 5 (00:52):
When I say negative, it's just like when you're not
trying to win a fight but survive or like.
Speaker 6 (01:00):
Does that head style just try and survive, Not so
much survive, but like just getting close quarters No, it's more.
Speaker 5 (01:06):
Leaning away in the way, and it's like I would
be trying to make the fight happen for everybody in
the crowd, you know, and he would be trying to
stop me from doing anything I wanted to do. So
it's yeah, me and Blake would have been I tell
you what, it could have been lackluster, especially after four
heavyweight fights on the undercart. We've got four heavyweight fights
(01:29):
on a row which are going to be sick.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (01:31):
Man, say how much? How much has it affected your
preparation though? Because obviously he got announced in the media.
You see it into July, so you probably had a
bit of time, but you didn't know your new opponent
till how long.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Ago, forty eight hours? I think does that.
Speaker 6 (01:45):
Change your preparation? I mean do you have to do
a bit of research around, Like, because you're saying that
different types of fighters, how does that affect? Is that
like that to me? I'd ship I'd ship my pants.
I'd be like, fuck, isn't I've trained for this other
guy and now I've got this another rooster coming.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
I guess boxing is the kind of sport you need
to be able to adapt on the spot anyway. So
I've got I've got five or six different modes in
terms of like how I fight, so uh, it doesn't
change that much.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
He's still a solfbore, so he's still left handed.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Yea.
Speaker 5 (02:17):
He's got a similar record, similar experience. He's fought three
formal world champions and he's beaten one of them, so
he's succeeded where Blake Caparello failed, if you know what
I mean. So he's very credible. This fight will get
me into the top fifteen in the WBO. I'm already
top fifteen in the IBF, but.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
It might put me up a couple of places.
Speaker 5 (02:39):
So that's it's a big step towards snatching one of
those titles, if.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
I don't want to jump too far down the track.
But if and when you get down down the end
here and you're you know, you're fighting for the WBO,
the ib F, the ABC's, the tcs ands and the
BG's and all that.
Speaker 6 (02:54):
Accs, he we'll wring that belt out.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
You can win hold that immediately.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
When when you win all of these, can you just
melt them down into one belt because it's so confusing
to follow all of the different boxing organizations.
Speaker 5 (03:08):
Isn't it well that there are four major belts. There's
the IBF, w b O, w B A, and WBC.
So at the moment, we're looking at the first two
the ib F from the w b O to be
unified to be the undisputed world champions, to have all
the belts.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
So in some ways it's good.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
In some ways, it's a bit confusing for the for
the layman, for the casuals, you know, but uh, a
world champions, a world champion, and to be able to
fight the other world champions as as that's.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
That's awesome, that's incredible.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
Like you've got the UFC now you've got, but you've
also got those other those other bodies where you've got
some murderers out there that are just as good as
the other guys, you know, Like.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
I can't even PFLFI League. Then there's the one championship PFL.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
I think they might be coming along, they might be yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
Yeah, who's that.
Speaker 6 (04:05):
Saudi money for podcasting we've been we've.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Been calling for that for a long time, like if
they want to if they want to wash their money
by sponsoring podcasts, we've been happily a lot of boxing
over in Saudi A.
Speaker 5 (04:16):
Have you been over there this yeah, I thought on
the Fury Usic undercard, So that was that was kind
of my my first big test against another undefeated prospect,
and hoping to get back over there in December for
the for the rematch. Yeah, the Usk Fury too. What's
the crowd like one of those things, like it was a.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Little bit quieter when I got in, it was a
little bit earlier. I think it was like it was
like a nine or it's like a nine hour card,
I think, Yeah, yeah, it was. It was a long night.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
So by the time Fury and Usak came out, it
was three thirty in the morning. Kendrick lamars up on
this platform rapping, like going going crazy, and everyone's like
struggling to keep their eyes over.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Like please get off, please get off. We want to
watch this fight.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Because they're not drinking other Yeah.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
Well, well, like the British fans, I think they all
got got on at the Embassy. I think they found
a loophole so out there and went across. But so
it was pretty rowdy. It was pretty rowdy in the
main event especially. Yeah, so the crowd was awesome and
I got like a nice ovation when I got out
the ring and stuff. So people were very very respectful
over there. It's it's amazing place.
Speaker 6 (05:18):
Yeah, I was in Abu Dhabi. I worked there for
a while and they put a UFC fight on there
and all of the front row about three rows back
were all locals in their pristine white dish dashes, and
so they're all sitting there and they love a bit
of combat fighting. But there was blood flying out of
that ring. I looked over one guy and they had
(05:39):
blood splitted all over their dish stashes.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
I would love.
Speaker 6 (05:44):
I was just like, oh my god, I don't seem
anything like it, but it was.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
It was. It was a good times.
Speaker 6 (05:49):
Just touching on before you said like confusing for the
late person in terms of the casual fan, can you
tore me through the different divisions, because like, obviously the
most famous is the heavyweights. You know, it's Tyson's, George
Foreman all that. You know, they probably get the most limelight.
So you got that that's the top, that's the heavyweights.
He's no super heavyweights in there. That's more not yet,
it's just heavyweights. It's just open grade whatever. And then
(06:11):
the other probably most famous division, is the kind of
Floyd maywhere the yeah, the world's weight where So can
you explain all the divisions and where you are and
what your your is your goal to go up a division?
Speaker 4 (06:21):
Is it? What is it?
Speaker 3 (06:22):
So so it's it's a little bit unfair in some ways.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
So that there are I think maybe fourteen divisions and
they start right down at like.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Forty nine kilos or something.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
Yeah, and the next division up is two kilos heavier,
then it's two killers heavier above that, then three killers,
then four kilos heavier. But by the time you get
up from light heavyweight is seventy nine points something kilos, right,
So let's say seventy nine killers. The next division up,
my division, cruiserweight is ninety point seven killers.
Speaker 6 (06:52):
It's different.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
It's a big jump.
Speaker 5 (06:53):
It's one hundred and seventy five pounds up to two
hundred pounds. That's a big difference. So when I made
that transition and I tried to put on all the
muscle I could to to you know, fill out that division,
and it really didn't do me any.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Favors for about three or four years, you know.
Speaker 5 (07:09):
So it's a it's a it's a big jump, and
anything above that is heavyweight.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
So technically right now, I'm a heavyweight.
Speaker 5 (07:16):
I'm walking around at about ninety four kilos, so my
weights come down since the starter camp, but I walk
around as a heavyweight ninety eight kilos kind of thing.
So I think I see three heavyweights here today.
Speaker 6 (07:29):
Hell yeah, hell yeah, I'm thinking more super heavyweight y.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
Yeah, yeah, what's the heavyweight? What's the sorry, what's your.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Two Hundred's the two hundred pounds limits?
Speaker 5 (07:37):
So ninety point seven ninety point seven kilos, yeah, which
is not actually that big nowadays, you know.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
So heavy.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
I didn't think so either, David, you did, right, But.
Speaker 5 (07:49):
Anything above that weight you're not going to get any more.
You're going to get faster, You're not going to get fitter.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
You will get more power.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
That's that's one thing that you get signialificantly more of
You get more power. But I feel like the cruiserweight
division you get some really really athletic fighters that have
their conditioning, have the power.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
It's it's kind of the best of both worlds.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
You know, Like I run a our our twenty two
half marathon, so it's like sub form inute case. That's
that's quick for anywhere. It's quick for anyone. So you've like,
at this division, you've got athletes that can, you know,
be endurance athletes, but also produce spectacular knockouts. You know,
(08:36):
and I guess in the in the pro game that
gloves are only designed to protect your hands, not your
opponent's faces.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
So you get a lot more heavy a lot more knockouts. Anyway.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
Yeah, yeah, for the most part, that heavyweight division.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Is power power is king.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
Are you quite tall for your white class? Is quite
a tall dude.
Speaker 5 (08:57):
I think I think I'm about right, but I think
I've got I've got a frame that could easily move
up to heavyweight. So, like Joseph Parker is about six four,
he says he's six four, He's about six to six
Tyson Fury is a real six nine. He's reel six
foot nine. Like you see him next to me, I
(09:18):
look like like a weeve.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
He's huge.
Speaker 5 (09:21):
He's huge, but a good basketball I doubted. I feel
like you found his home in boxing. Like you see
him running.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
He's not a good runner, but he could run all day.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
That's the thing.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
He's just he's he's got some kind of God given hellent.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
Then that's sort of the traveler magic.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
The drive man.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
It's pretty incredible. Like we do fifteen rounds of body spraying.
When I went and trained over with Joe and Pyson
Fury for for six months, we do fifteen rounds.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Of body sparying.
Speaker 5 (09:56):
So I'm the smallest guy there out of like six heavyweights,
and after fifteen rounds, all of us that shattered. Tyson's
the only one that looks like he could do another fifteen. Really,
and he's got a bit he's got a bit more padding. Yeah,
he's got a motor on him. But nonetheless, nonetheless he's
you'd look at him and think he's the most out
of shape guy. He's the only guy that could have
done another fifteen, you know what I mean. Yeah, so
(10:16):
you my organs are like turning inside my road page.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
You know.
Speaker 6 (10:20):
You spend a bit of time Morecambe. Then is that
where you went to train with him?
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Yeah? I did, I did.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
I was.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
That was awesome. It was it was very cool.
Speaker 5 (10:26):
It was it was an eye opener. I learned how
to how to fight. I didn't learn a hell of
a lot. I learned technical aspects of the sport, but
I kind of transitioned my my own mentality from in
the amateur boxing, I felt like a competitor.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
I felt like I was.
Speaker 5 (10:46):
Competing when I went over there and I sparred with
some really really tough guys over there, I feel like
I learned how to fight, Like you need to be
able to fight. It's not it's not a competition anymore.
You're not trying to out point the other guy. You're
trying to learn how to break your guy down and
andiat him.
Speaker 6 (11:05):
And yeah, because it must mean but that's the thing.
It must change, because you're saying when you're an amateur,
you know, like you're saying your competitor, but we.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Don't have to hurt them.
Speaker 6 (11:14):
Yeah, yeah, that's right. It's about points, you know. And
at the end of it, you've got weird a head
gear because its kind of like calm games. You know,
it's very it looks very technically.
Speaker 5 (11:21):
They got rid of the head gear. But nonetheless, the
gloves you've got about I reckon about six or seven
centimeters of padding it in front of your glove and
the pro and the pro game.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Your gloves are.
Speaker 5 (11:32):
Made out of horse here, so horse hair really bins
and molds around your fast. It's designed to protect your hand,
not your opponents. So yeah, you get yeah, yeah, you
get a lot more hurt. Yeah, yea yeah, must you've
got dehydration, you've got you've got cuts, You've got a
lot more impact, You've got a lot more time to
take impact as well.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
So completely different game.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
And I didn't really appreciate it until I until I
went over and trained with the lights of the Furies.
Speaker 6 (11:59):
Yeah right, and they taught you you're in the ring.
You're in the ring to basically knock the fuck out
of the guys.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
Guy. Yeah right, business, Yeah, totally.
Speaker 6 (12:07):
I watched the Fury Is at Home with the Furies,
still one of my favorite programs, of him jogging on
the waterfront there at Morecambe and then him looking down
the barrel of the camera and him going, you know,
I've made so much fucking money. I've got too much money.
I don't even have to do with. Why would you
want to live anywhere else? And it panned back and
it was just like two kilometers of mudflats and the
(12:27):
shitter seaside town in the world. But he was so
fucking stoked to be there. Yeah, hard not to vibe
off his energy even via the like everything was so positive.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
Yeah, he was. He seemed like a real dude.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
He had like a Ferrari parked in his driveway and
he's like, I can't even fit in the car.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Pull up on it, he offered, that's the black one. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (12:47):
He asked me if I wanted to take it for
a spin. I was like, I do not trust myself.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
Just get sideways, send it into a park car.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Yeah, yeah he did. He did look way too big
for it coming out of it though.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Yeah, I'm speaking of living in strange places.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
You're living in Queensland town, like an hour out of
out of Brisbane in Queensland.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
Yeah, it's got a population of about eight thousand, right,
and it's kind of the borderline. When you start heading
into into like the middle of Australia, it's like you
start seeing cowboys and whatnot, like cowboys with the with.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
The cowboy hat cleats. Yeah, it's awesome and pretty cool.
Speaker 6 (13:20):
And they fly helicopters like Troy Dan.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
You no, no, no, no, I haven't seen many helicopters
there is that there is an army base out there.
They do some pretty pretty wicked, wicked stuff in there,
and the jets out there.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
But why what is it called getting getting a t
t O in Yeah, why are there a lot of
boxers out there?
Speaker 4 (13:38):
What's going on?
Speaker 5 (13:39):
So on my way back from Morecambe, I I was
on my way to Melbourne for for a fight on
the Devin Haney George Cambosa's undercart and I needed a
coach for four weeks leading up to the to the
Belt and so Dave Higgins from Duco lined me up
with a coach, Noel Thornbury, who's my coach today? And
(13:59):
uh I turned up the airport. Noel had twenty four
hours notice. I was on the plane when he got
the call. Oh, by the way, David's coming over now.
So this is yeah, this is like still during COVID time.
So I'm trying to I'm trying to fill out a
form of where I'm going to be staying, like where
will you be residing? And I was like I found
(14:22):
I found a random hotel and like a nearby like
a nearby area. I wasn't sure if I was training
in Brisbane or where. They turn up and say, you
know good A nol met his his son Cass and we.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
We just drove out into the country. So where are
we going to.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
YouTube creak like that. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
But so we're driving out then and we're driving into
into Gatton and I'm saying, like this is this is beautiful,
like the lock your valley is a beautiful place. And
he thought I was taking the pistol whole time. But
I love it out there. It's like no.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
No, no, no, no no.
Speaker 5 (14:59):
I tell you see every sunset post I put on
my Instagram, Gatten baby, it's gotten. It's a beautiful landscape.
I've got everything I need there. I'm dating Noel's daughter now,
so I've got to be the best behavior and I am.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
That's worked out well. It's worked out really well.
Speaker 5 (15:16):
It's worked out really well with I'm a part time caretaker.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
I do.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
I do the mowing, I do the whipper snipping. I do.
I call it whipper snipping.
Speaker 5 (15:25):
Now, I do the gurney, water blasting, grab a drunk songs.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
Yeah, this is long ploys. I'm gonna ge him over.
I'm gonna check them up with my daughter.
Speaker 6 (15:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
I love it out there. There's I've got my chickens,
I've got my garden.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
It's like a very very simple lifestyle and it's something
that I think I've I've always been longing for and
you don't realize.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
What you I didn't realize I needed it until I
had it.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
And now I like now, big cities overwhelmed me, you know,
around too many people for too long overwhelms me, you know.
And I've got everything I need in a small country town.
We drive into Brisbane twice a week for sparring. That's
all I need, you know, I've got. I've got wide
open roads to to run with, fresh clean air. A
few brown snakes the roads. Yeah, the brown snakes are
(16:23):
they've killed a few of Nole's dogs and like we've
seen a few around the apartments kind of thing. So
it's pretty sketchy, but but I love it, like I
just I just need to start wearing shoes, wearing shoes
in the backyards because I was cus. You know, we
walk around beer, I'm turning over logs. I keep forgetting
that they've got like red backs like everywhere. Yeah, I
(16:44):
got all these, like they've got every dangerous all every
deadly spider in the world is in Australia.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
I used to live over in Australia for a bit.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
When I first went over there, we were playing backyard
cricket and I hit the ball under the house.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
I was like, I'll go and get it, crawl under.
Someone grabbed me by my ankles.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
No, no, no, yeah, don't do it, and then wonder I
walked into a ship. There was a red back spider
in the corner of the thing. I freaked out, so
I ran back out, come back with a can of Flyesprey.
Just dosed the whole thing. And I count that as
a victory over an animal that could have killed me.
Went one on one with some flyesprey. I went one
on one with with an animal that could have killed me,
and I killed it.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
This is seventy thousand dollars fine for killing your brown snake?
Is it something something silly like that?
Speaker 5 (17:22):
It's it's it's illegal to kill brown snakes. But they'll
kill your dog, they'll kill your children.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
Do they give no? Yeah? Exactly, Yeah, but it's bullshit.
Speaker 6 (17:31):
We've just gotta sat quite a bit of me about
which animal do you think you could defeat?
Speaker 4 (17:34):
Oh? Yes, this is one of my I love this game.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
This is one of my favorite.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
I spent so much time thinking about that, so I
reckon The rules are you're one on one, you're basically
in ufc CA. Yeah, and then depending on the size
of the animal that might need to.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Sitting up on my seat ship.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
So all right, let's start with something that's very similar
to a human. What about like a kangaroo. Like obviously
you're a boxer. This is the sort of forte boxing
you could take kangaroo.
Speaker 5 (18:01):
I could take any kangaroo, I think. Yeah, in front
of any kangaroo that you just can't let them grab
hold of it, can't.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
They'll kick the ship out of you.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
Yeah, they rip your guts up. Yeah, because they get
up on the old oh out of me.
Speaker 5 (18:17):
So they range between forty and eighty kilos, so imagine, yes,
an eighty kilo diners.
Speaker 6 (18:24):
You a cruise aweight Yeah, yeah, yeah, you got a
cruise aweight bird.
Speaker 5 (18:30):
They're prehistoric. They made it through the medior strike or whatever. Yeah,
they're tough, right, it's tough. Could you take a could
you take a forty kilos forty?
Speaker 4 (18:40):
Yes, Now, it would suck me up, it would. It
would scratch me in a bit. But but.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
You haven't seen one in person.
Speaker 6 (18:47):
I have.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Yeah, And they make a noise like a it's like
quite a deep noise that sort of reddles your chest
a little bit.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
For eighty, I'm eight. Where's the crossover where problem is
a problem?
Speaker 6 (19:00):
You're wayne, it's going to be awayn But again, tiny
little heads.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
You know, if I can get to the head, I reckon,
I can. I reckon, I can take it out.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Okay, So what are you going to do to the head.
That's how you're going to snap it.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
It's the neck. If I get hold of the neck, yeah,
and then.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Spinning backfast, dude.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
And then I'm like, no, you can't.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
You can't get your arms round because it's already got
his talent. It's got to be a spinning backfast.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
I think maybe I get the elbows going again too close.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Yeah, you got to keep yours.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
You don't think you could jab that thing to no
jab it's beak, no way.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Man.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
I'm not saying I'm getting out of this thing like unscathed. Yeah,
like it's going to fuck me up.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
But I do think that I'd walk out with my
hand raised at the end of it. I think I've
had a theory that I reckon I could take out
a giraffe.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
Oh hear me.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
It's because giraffes have to eat so often that it's
eventually it's gonna have to take a nap before I.
Speaker 6 (19:53):
Have you seen when they fight? Have you seen when
they brought me and then smack each other?
Speaker 4 (19:57):
That would clean.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Getting your legs up for sure.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
That's right. I'm going to have to stay mobile for
the first sort of twelve hours.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Hold on, no, no, no, have you seen them kill lions? Them? So?
Speaker 5 (20:11):
So you think a deer does the same to a dog. Yes, yeah,
a giraffe does it to a lion?
Speaker 3 (20:16):
What are we doing? What are we doing?
Speaker 4 (20:18):
I think, honestly, I was thinking.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
I was still thinking the neck, because'm still thinking about
the neck.
Speaker 5 (20:22):
If I can grab on I think if you can
get your arms around it, you might be okay.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
But how long can you hold onto his neck? But
how do you get up there?
Speaker 4 (20:29):
It's just down.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
You've got to you've got to time it as it
swings down, right, You've got a time.
Speaker 6 (20:33):
You guys are crazy. And then you're dreaming. Man, No
one's beating a giraft a baby one that's just been born.
I reckon I could clop there like real wobbly and
then just take it down.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
But my theory was it's eventually going to get tired
before I am. That's when it kneels down and now
I'm rear naked, choking like you.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
Thinking you're.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
They live in like then the heat every.
Speaker 6 (20:57):
Day we go all day, Like after twelve hours, you're hungry.
You're hungrier than the lions.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Don't even mess with them, but they don't have the
mentality that that's the difference. I think eating monkey taller
than like knee height, I'm done. Monkeys are just too strong.
Speaker 6 (21:10):
Yeah, you don't want to rangutan. They will just clobber
you with't they.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
A main coon? You know what?
Speaker 4 (21:16):
The cats?
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Big cat?
Speaker 5 (21:19):
I've cat sat for one of them before, and oh
they're scary man.
Speaker 6 (21:23):
Well that's I suppose that there's got those one of
those ones that the zoo, the slightly large at the servial. Yeah,
did you take one of those on?
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Nah? I've been like, have you ever had your cat
just freak out in attack you for no reason? Like
tried times that by like four, I reckon.
Speaker 5 (21:37):
Cats put their claws in your yeah, yeah, like it
all goes to your head.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
So largest animal you reckon probably a kangaroo.
Speaker 6 (21:44):
Oh geez, I reckon I wallaby for me. I don't
about to take a kangaroo. Koos get pretty big.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
I have seen one of the big ones.
Speaker 6 (21:51):
In the the ones with the chest, and.
Speaker 5 (21:53):
I've seen one of them like we get we get
five foot kangaroos. Where we live, you're all over the
shop up to like seven feet. Though that's bose things.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
My message works with animals. And she used to work
at this private zoos sort of thing. I helped her
feed one day and I was in this little trench.
A giraffe put its head over the top, was eating
out of the bucket in this hand. Then an ostrich
comes walking up the thing towards me, and I was
freaking out. Is an ostrich coming? She goes, if you're scared,
put your hand above your head and it'll think that
you're taller than it and it'll back down. So now
(22:25):
I'm standing here, there's a giraffe eating out of my
left arm, my right hand, my right hands above my head,
and the ostrich just walked straight up to me and
started eating out of the same bucket as well.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Don't you put your head in the sand. Isn't that
put your little ostrich head in the sand? I reckon,
I said to the this is not working.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
She goes, oh, yeah, no, it doesn't work. I was
taking the pit Is it worth.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
Us like mentioning we don't want to fight these animals.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
Yeah, that's all hypothetic.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Year before you get canceled, well.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
Before a kangaroo hears this.
Speaker 6 (22:56):
The other question that we spent a long time talking
about over beers is you're in the ring. You're in
a ring. It's a fight to the death, Okay, a
fight for survival. And look, I'm not saying we endorse this,
but I've got kids. There is thousands of kids in
the crowd, and they're coming at you, five at a time,
(23:19):
five at a time, and it's fight to the death.
Wa Yeah, they're coming in waves. How many waves can
you survive in that ring?
Speaker 4 (23:26):
And they're coming.
Speaker 6 (23:26):
They're not They're not there to just wrestle.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
They are to kill you.
Speaker 6 (23:29):
They're like they want to these Polynesian kids.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
You know, we've got Alex Lear Jr. As on my undercut.
He's eighteen years old.
Speaker 5 (23:40):
I saw him fighting at fifteen and he's an absolute monster.
I saw him hitting the paths and I was like,
I actually know I've seen him at six years old.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
I'll see you in this video. I'll see you.
Speaker 5 (23:50):
This video of him hitting the pads at six years old.
He still hits harder than I do today.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
Yeah, okay, it's against them, they're five years old.
Speaker 6 (23:58):
Okay, So I know this sounds too the all different
ages when it's a it's a representation of the of
the demographic of New Zealand. So there will be all
sorts coming at you. Yeah, so I reckon I could do.
The other question is.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
Can you hear them? Do they cry? Because because.
Speaker 6 (24:20):
Cry because I've come out, You're like, they want to
kill you and you're not the first one out and
he will be crying for his much.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
Can we can we say these are like zombie kids?
Speaker 4 (24:27):
Yeah? Yeah, they don't make a noise when you hit them.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
They probably they're probably crying the whole time.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
No, I know, this is the discussion we have.
Speaker 6 (24:36):
And then the cacophony that would happen after six or
seven waves have been put down would just overwhelm you
and then you just go out. I'm done taking So
you guys have been canceled.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
This is your last podcast.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
You listened stuff, David. This is okay, this is okay,
definitely okay, it's not okay.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
It's just got my first beat of sweat coming through
my shirt.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
Now you don't have to answer. I said, I would go.
Speaker 6 (25:02):
I said, I reckon, I do five, and then I'd
be two paffed, and then they would just galler for me,
you know, when they would have you got I got
three and they can probably take me as But if
it's fights for survival, and I did talk, can I
have a cricket bat or you know, any weapons? And
he said no, it's just pure. It's just because if
we have a cricket bat, I'm becking myself just probably
(25:24):
up to a dozen waves. But if it's just hand
to hand, I'm five or six and then I'm done.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
It's basically a six waves.
Speaker 6 (25:32):
Yeah talking about yeah, but every it's every two minutes,
so five come, bang, bang bang.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
The whole class.
Speaker 6 (25:41):
Kids, David, kids not human human? What about you and I?
How many waves do you have it? Every two minutes?
Five more come?
Speaker 4 (25:50):
It's a fitness test, man.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
I did a bloody boxing fitness class on Wednesday and
I could barely get through a bag that didn't fight back.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
Hurrican word for maybe three How many kids are five? Five?
Speaker 6 (26:05):
Five year olds are coming to eat you? Every two minutes.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Every two minutes, I flat line that first five year
old I reckon. The other four are back in half.
There's mombie kids. We've discussed this. They're there and they
for them, it's survival as well. They're going to the death.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
Like like three and then I'm blowing real hard and
then they're coming from behind. They're on your back. Yeah.
Do I get a risk in between?
Speaker 5 (26:28):
I think as soon as you get taken down, yeah, yeah,
as soon as you start hitting the deck.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
Yeah yeah, my guess. Thanks. Probably not where I need
it to be, to be taking on waves.
Speaker 6 (26:36):
And knowing five year olds, they'll I'm straight for your
nuts as well, straight for the balls. Yeah, straight for
the balls.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
I think we should depart from this subject of conversation
before it's probably too late to be fair.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
I wanted to did you actually ask you this before?
Speaker 1 (26:53):
But you haven't seen the video, But as Rader Sonya
was filmed on k Road is outside standing outside of
of his cars Flash Air Supercar and this dude's yeah,
and there's a guy just in his grill basically like
asking to fight him, and I was like, he posted
a statement after It's like it's actually ridiculous that I
(27:14):
can't go down to the diary after sparring and get
a pie, like without someone accosting me. Have you ever
had anyone like come up to you and I want
to want to punch punch on or.
Speaker 5 (27:27):
Surprise man, I've like, I've made no enemies. I've made
no I call myself the nice guy. Yeah, because I
I make every effort to avert situations like that is he.
It's probably a little bit different because he uses his
mouth a lot. Yeah, and like ah, for that reason,
(27:47):
he's so marketable, you know. But you'll get You'll get
the kids like that that'll come and yeah, like you said,
it cost you for just who you are, just to
to to make a name. You know, I've I've never
been in a street fight. I've never been in a
fight outside of the ring. And I like, that's like
(28:08):
a that's a winning record as far as i'm you
know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
So I've never actually.
Speaker 5 (28:14):
Yeah, no, I'm really quick to shut those down.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
But I could. I could fight, though I think it's
not to say I wouldn't win the fight, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
I think it's madness.
Speaker 6 (28:25):
The guy you watched the video, a guy would have
got his head knocked off his shoulders, Like, what's the
fucking what, I don't understand it.
Speaker 5 (28:32):
I've been in camp with is He and I was
I was in his camp as his main's striking partner
before he fought Anderson Silva. Now Anderson silver was the reason,
was one of the leading reasons why I started combat
sports in the first place. I thought he was also
like cut holes in my socks and do muay Thai
on the bag. Yeah, amazing athlete. I was in camp
(28:53):
with is He as his striking partner, so we would
we would spar only boxing, obviously, but he would very
so often the head close close, very very close, you know,
So he would he would he would let me know
exactly that there's it's a different range in in in
the US, in the UFC and mixed martial arts.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
So he would give me a little like calf.
Speaker 5 (29:17):
Kick, like a like a little tap ye every soft
just to let me know, well, I'm I'm helping him spine,
so obviously I need to be a little bit more
aware of like what what he needs from me.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
And I'm doing like an anders and silver impersonation sort
of thing.
Speaker 5 (29:32):
Yeah. Yeah, So that was the first time, I actually
switched predominantly to southboard because I'm an orthodox fight.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
I'm right handed, basically.
Speaker 5 (29:40):
Using my left hand essentially, it was it was quite difficult,
but now I do it really well because of like that.
So I would be sparring him, real competitive and stuff,
but every so often he would remind me that he's
got like six to eight different weapons that he could
use against me, you know. So I'd back him into
(30:01):
the corner double jab right hand. Whether I landed or not,
he'd pulled me into it like a Muayti clinch, and
I'd see my life flash before would come up this
close to my face and it was like it was beautiful,
but I'd I'd come back up like I've just seen
a ghost, you know.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
I'd be like, Ah, that's that's a street.
Speaker 5 (30:21):
Fight, you know, that's that's that's how dangerous that guy
is in a street fight. That that bloke I haven't
I haven't seen the video yet, but that bloke has
no business starting and that with a guy like he
is the assault of the earth Man.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
He's that.
Speaker 5 (30:35):
He's one of the nicest guys you'll meet, and just
disappointing that people have that kind of mentality around here,
or like it's it's that weird tool poppies and the
other thing we talked about crabs in a bucket. They
all in a drag when I was down, and it's
like why don't ye, why don't we pay more attention
to you know that our when is we we got
(30:58):
the most gold medals at the per capita, like we've
got we've got everything going for us. We just need
to we just need to keep recognizing those athletes because
they're they're they're leaving the charge. He's one of the
most famous UFC fighters in history because he's got that
(31:19):
mouth and because he because he speaks his mind, because
he's he's.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
That fluent in the ring and out of the ring, that.
Speaker 5 (31:28):
We should be applauding him and we should be like,
you know, building him up, you know, but like people
are so quick to kind of tear those guys down
because it's like.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
You don't represent me, you represent our country man. That's
what we're doing.
Speaker 6 (31:42):
Looking at that, I don't think people are going to
be judging is he after that, I think they'll be
going to go And that guy is the biggest penis
to walk the planet, Like he you know what I mean.
I was like, I actually felt embarrassed guy watching it.
I was like, oh, dude, a fuck, come on man, because.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
He wouldn't have he wouldn't have gotten anything out as
you would.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
He just walk away, Yeah, fingers car and walked off.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
Kind of got into his supercar.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
It's to get in his busted piece of shick because
there's no win there is he like if he sparks
his dude out, then what I don't know, it doesn't Yeah, anyway,
would you ever consider UFC?
Speaker 5 (32:18):
I used to and really like, yeah, not anymore right
up until you saw is he? Yeah? Right until I
saw my life flash Wise was like this is like
my uh, it's like a past life I've lived.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
And I was like, yeah that it wasn't for me.
Then it's not for me now yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
So what's the looking at this? So you're on the
road to the title Now that's that's the whole thing.
Joseph Parker's come on as a promoter. What what does
that mean for Joseph? Like what what is he actually
doing as a as a promoter?
Speaker 5 (32:45):
And it's it's a it's a career after boxing. A
lot of boxes don't have any anything in mind once
they finished boxing. Tyson Fury is one of those guys
that needs boxing, you know, like needs boxing for his
for his sanity, you know. So Joseph, Joseph's a smart
guy and he's he's planning seeds for down the line,
(33:07):
and and I think he's gonna be a great promoter.
So I'm blessed to have him in my corner because
he's he's at the height of his career right now.
You know, he's come up, he dipped back down and
he's back on the rise, you know. So, uh, amazing
timing for me to to have the likes of him
in my corner and backing me.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
Do co events Thornberry Promotions, my coach, NORL. Thornbury.
Speaker 5 (33:29):
We've got Manuka Doctor on board as the as the
naming right sponsor. We've got The Zone, I guess the
first the first card New Zealand that the Zone is
backing and they've and they've they've agreed to a multi
fight deal where we can keep putting his on the
Zone dot com.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
It's it's more download. It's like so it's an app.
Speaker 5 (33:49):
So that they've gone they've gone digital, like you can
get it in any country.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
There's a subscription all there are pay per views like.
Speaker 5 (33:57):
You can you can, it's it's it's it's for our generation. Yeah,
you go on your phone and you download it and
you start watching.
Speaker 6 (34:03):
So it's D D A Z Y download that.
Speaker 5 (34:08):
Yep, and that will be that will be the only
place you can watch this fight. And we've got a
wicked undercar. We've got four heavyweight bouts on before mine
and there. He was one of my childhood heroes and
I ended up training with him at fourteen years old.
I met him down at it was Ringside gym at
the time. He was my first mentor, and like, what
a great example of a guy, you know.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
He he ah.
Speaker 5 (34:33):
He kind of directed me in the right direction. I
know there are a lot of rugby players that might
not leave great accounts of themselves. Liam Liam was the
right guy for me, like because he always pointed me
in the right direction. I remember going I was in
his corner for his first corporate fight. I think, yeah,
I was in his corner and I remember he had
(34:55):
he had per dims and he said, all right, Dave,
I'm going to teach you how to eat. I'm gonna
give you all my per dms on on the only
condition is you have to spend it on food.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
And so I'm I'm like.
Speaker 5 (35:05):
A like a fifty kilo kid, like, yeah, yeah, how
do we do that? And he took me around to
all his different spots and man, we ate, all right,
I've doubled my weight since then.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
Was one of them?
Speaker 3 (35:18):
No, no, no, no, very healthy, all healthy.
Speaker 5 (35:21):
Like steaks and sushi and yeah, the Japanese cuisine and
like Asian fusion.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
Beautiful man.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
And then he's who's he fighting?
Speaker 3 (35:28):
Is it Jordan Simmy? Yeah, I don't know much about him.
Was he an influencer?
Speaker 4 (35:33):
Yeah? Well yeah, what is he just influence?
Speaker 3 (35:35):
He's just talking? Is that?
Speaker 4 (35:37):
Basically?
Speaker 1 (35:38):
He fought Hodges, Justin Hodges and one of the theeah okay.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
Yeah, yeah, so I heard that's going to be a
good fight.
Speaker 4 (35:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
Heard he can bang too.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
I heard he can bang. I mean he beat Hodges,
I think.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Yeah, there was some big storyline about how he wanted
to beat Justin Hodges to prove to his missus that
he could get her back, and he did it. But
then she's giving him the flicks and oh man, no,
he's back in the ring. But yeah, four absolute Banks
are they still tickets available to the to the card itself?
Speaker 4 (36:06):
Can you still get along?
Speaker 5 (36:08):
It's black tie corporate event, and I think there's only
two tables left us. Yeah right, yeah, ninety tables eighty
eight sold, which is unreal. So ideally we'll get another
card before the end of the year, which I'm hoping
will be in a stadium, you know, so the so
you're there, yeah, spark, I think thirteen thousand, yeah would
(36:29):
be amazing. But yeah, live on his own, that's that's
the place to watch it.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
Yeah, all right, Well, I think we've been knock the
sing on the head before you get canceled.
Speaker 6 (36:38):
I've got one more. I've got one more thing. Every
gifts that comes on here we do twenty two and two,
which is twenty two quick fire questions straight off in
two minutes.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
I'm really bad at these days. No, I have a
logical mind.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
See yeah, it's just it's just one or the other.
Speaker 6 (36:53):
Go with your hat, okay, So, David Nikki, this is
you're twenty two and two.
Speaker 4 (36:58):
Coffee or tea, coffee or drugs? Six hard or fast.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
Fast?
Speaker 6 (37:05):
Would you rather wake up nude next to Mike Tyson
or George Foreman?
Speaker 3 (37:09):
Oh, George Foreman.
Speaker 6 (37:11):
Tie or Indian ty eat out or dine in.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
Dining?
Speaker 6 (37:18):
Freddy Mercury or Elton John Freddie Mercury, wet or dry?
Dry dogs or cats dogs? Trevor Kelse or Taylor Swift.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
I don't really know either of them. I'll say Taler Swift.
Speaker 6 (37:34):
I know Floyd Mayweather, Conor McGregor, and Evander Holyfield. Who's
got the biggest downstairs? What boxing legend would you bring
back from.
Speaker 4 (37:44):
The dead.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
Man Sugar A. Robinson?
Speaker 6 (37:49):
If the ceremony to bring back sugar Ay Robinson resulted
in you talking like Mike Tyson for the rest of
your life, would you still do itne?
Speaker 4 (37:57):
Have you ever fighted again?
Speaker 3 (37:59):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (38:00):
Have you ever killed anything bigger than an insect?
Speaker 3 (38:02):
No?
Speaker 6 (38:03):
Who is the most famous person you've met?
Speaker 3 (38:10):
Lenox Lewis?
Speaker 2 (38:11):
Maybe?
Speaker 6 (38:11):
Oh yeah, some Fury is pretty famous?
Speaker 3 (38:13):
Fury?
Speaker 2 (38:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (38:14):
Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 6 (38:18):
If you had a reoccurring dream that a snowman killed
himself with a hair dryer, would you be concerned? Say
that again, If you had a reoccurring nightmare that a
snowman killed himself with a hair dryer, would you be concerned? Uh?
Speaker 3 (38:33):
No, I think that would be hilarious.
Speaker 6 (38:35):
If you were offered a knighthood, would you accept it?
Speaker 3 (38:38):
No?
Speaker 6 (38:39):
What age do you think people say they've had a
fall instead of falling down.
Speaker 4 (38:45):
Sixty five?
Speaker 6 (38:47):
Have you ever screamed google me, motherfucker?
Speaker 3 (38:51):
No?
Speaker 6 (38:52):
If you if you were to get a statue made
of yourself, what pose would it be and where would
you put the statue?
Speaker 4 (39:03):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (39:04):
Man.
Speaker 6 (39:05):
An example of this is we we asked Tim Saudi,
cricketer Tim Saudi, what do you do? And he said
he would be writing a stallion with that rearing up
with its genitalia facing the door, and he'd put it
on Daniel for Torre's front lawn.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
What no way mine would be?
Speaker 5 (39:21):
Mine would be like, uh, okay, it'll be It'll be
Roughiki holding up Simba be me holding my chicken.
Speaker 4 (39:30):
Chicken. Nice.
Speaker 6 (39:32):
No, that's the that's the twenty twe twenty two and two.
Thanks very much, there's a wicked Cheers guys.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
Thanks for joining us, Mat and go well next weekend.
We'll be there ringside to cheer you on.
Speaker 6 (39:42):
You're a great and you're a great New Zealander and
thanks for coming on.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
Cheers man, Thank you guys.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
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Speaker 1 (00:15):
And it is a great pleasure to welcome into the
studio David Good David, Hey, gun Mate's.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Good to be here, bro, thanks for having me.
Speaker 4 (00:21):
That's the story.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
Will wind week will in a few days for you.
Hasn't it been? When did you first find out that
old mate was not going to be able to fight?
Speaker 4 (00:29):
Uh?
Speaker 5 (00:30):
Well, the positive test came about like five weeks ago,
last end of July, so it's actually been a long time.
But we were trying to make the fight still happen.
I still wanted to fight Blake, But now that we've
got this new guy, Tommy Carpenti, he's actually a better
body to fight.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
If you know what I mean, Like he won't be
as negative.
Speaker 5 (00:52):
When I say negative, it's just like when you're not
trying to win a fight but survive or like.
Speaker 6 (01:00):
Does that head style just try and survive, Not so
much survive, but like just getting close quarters No, it's more.
Speaker 5 (01:06):
Leaning away in the way, and it's like I would
be trying to make the fight happen for everybody in
the crowd, you know, and he would be trying to
stop me from doing anything I wanted to do. So
it's yeah, me and Blake would have been I tell
you what, it could have been lackluster, especially after four
heavyweight fights on the undercart. We've got four heavyweight fights
(01:29):
on a row which are going to be sick.
Speaker 4 (01:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (01:31):
Man, say how much? How much has it affected your
preparation though? Because obviously he got announced in the media.
You see it into July, so you probably had a
bit of time, but you didn't know your new opponent
till how long.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Ago, forty eight hours? I think does that.
Speaker 6 (01:45):
Change your preparation? I mean do you have to do
a bit of research around, Like, because you're saying that
different types of fighters, how does that affect? Is that
like that to me? I'd ship I'd ship my pants.
I'd be like, fuck, isn't I've trained for this other
guy and now I've got this another rooster coming.
Speaker 5 (02:00):
I guess boxing is the kind of sport you need
to be able to adapt on the spot anyway. So
I've got I've got five or six different modes in
terms of like how I fight, so uh, it doesn't
change that much.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
He's still a solfbore, so he's still left handed.
Speaker 4 (02:17):
Yea.
Speaker 5 (02:17):
He's got a similar record, similar experience. He's fought three
formal world champions and he's beaten one of them, so
he's succeeded where Blake Caparello failed, if you know what
I mean. So he's very credible. This fight will get
me into the top fifteen in the WBO. I'm already
top fifteen in the IBF, but.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
It might put me up a couple of places.
Speaker 5 (02:39):
So that's it's a big step towards snatching one of
those titles, if.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
I don't want to jump too far down the track.
But if and when you get down down the end
here and you're you know, you're fighting for the WBO,
the ib F, the ABC's, the tcs ands and the
BG's and all that.
Speaker 6 (02:54):
Accs, he we'll wring that belt out.
Speaker 4 (02:58):
You can win hold that immediately.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
When when you win all of these, can you just
melt them down into one belt because it's so confusing
to follow all of the different boxing organizations.
Speaker 5 (03:08):
Isn't it well that there are four major belts. There's
the IBF, w b O, w B A, and WBC.
So at the moment, we're looking at the first two
the ib F from the w b O to be
unified to be the undisputed world champions, to have all
the belts.
Speaker 3 (03:25):
So in some ways it's good.
Speaker 5 (03:27):
In some ways, it's a bit confusing for the for
the layman, for the casuals, you know, but uh, a
world champions, a world champion, and to be able to
fight the other world champions as as that's.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
That's awesome, that's incredible.
Speaker 5 (03:41):
Like you've got the UFC now you've got, but you've
also got those other those other bodies where you've got
some murderers out there that are just as good as
the other guys, you know, Like.
Speaker 4 (03:53):
I can't even PFLFI League. Then there's the one championship PFL.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
I think they might be coming along, they might be yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:04):
Yeah, who's that.
Speaker 6 (04:05):
Saudi money for podcasting we've been we've.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Been calling for that for a long time, like if
they want to if they want to wash their money
by sponsoring podcasts, we've been happily a lot of boxing
over in Saudi A.
Speaker 5 (04:16):
Have you been over there this yeah, I thought on
the Fury Usic undercard, So that was that was kind
of my my first big test against another undefeated prospect,
and hoping to get back over there in December for
the for the rematch. Yeah, the Usk Fury too. What's
the crowd like one of those things, like it was a.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Little bit quieter when I got in, it was a
little bit earlier. I think it was like it was
like a nine or it's like a nine hour card,
I think, Yeah, yeah, it was. It was a long night.
Speaker 5 (04:41):
So by the time Fury and Usak came out, it
was three thirty in the morning. Kendrick lamars up on
this platform rapping, like going going crazy, and everyone's like
struggling to keep their eyes over.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
Like please get off, please get off. We want to
watch this fight.
Speaker 4 (04:55):
Because they're not drinking other Yeah.
Speaker 5 (04:57):
Well, well, like the British fans, I think they all
got got on at the Embassy. I think they found
a loophole so out there and went across. But so
it was pretty rowdy. It was pretty rowdy in the
main event especially. Yeah, so the crowd was awesome and
I got like a nice ovation when I got out
the ring and stuff. So people were very very respectful
over there. It's it's amazing place.
Speaker 6 (05:18):
Yeah, I was in Abu Dhabi. I worked there for
a while and they put a UFC fight on there
and all of the front row about three rows back
were all locals in their pristine white dish dashes, and
so they're all sitting there and they love a bit
of combat fighting. But there was blood flying out of
that ring. I looked over one guy and they had
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blood splitted all over their dish stashes.
Speaker 4 (05:43):
I would love.
Speaker 6 (05:44):
I was just like, oh my god, I don't seem
anything like it, but it was.
Speaker 4 (05:48):
It was. It was a good times.
Speaker 6 (05:49):
Just touching on before you said like confusing for the
late person in terms of the casual fan, can you
tore me through the different divisions, because like, obviously the
most famous is the heavyweights. You know, it's Tyson's, George
Foreman all that. You know, they probably get the most limelight.
So you got that that's the top, that's the heavyweights.
He's no super heavyweights in there. That's more not yet,
it's just heavyweights. It's just open grade whatever. And then
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the other probably most famous division, is the kind of
Floyd maywhere the yeah, the world's weight where So can
you explain all the divisions and where you are and
what your your is your goal to go up a division?
Speaker 4 (06:21):
Is it? What is it?
Speaker 3 (06:22):
So so it's it's a little bit unfair in some ways.
Speaker 5 (06:25):
So that there are I think maybe fourteen divisions and
they start right down at like.
Speaker 3 (06:30):
Forty nine kilos or something.
Speaker 5 (06:31):
Yeah, and the next division up is two kilos heavier,
then it's two killers heavier above that, then three killers,
then four kilos heavier. But by the time you get
up from light heavyweight is seventy nine points something kilos, right,
So let's say seventy nine killers. The next division up,
my division, cruiserweight is ninety point seven killers.
Speaker 6 (06:52):
It's different.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
It's a big jump.
Speaker 5 (06:53):
It's one hundred and seventy five pounds up to two
hundred pounds. That's a big difference. So when I made
that transition and I tried to put on all the
muscle I could to to you know, fill out that division,
and it really didn't do me any.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
Favors for about three or four years, you know.
Speaker 5 (07:09):
So it's a it's a it's a big jump, and
anything above that is heavyweight.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
So technically right now, I'm a heavyweight.
Speaker 5 (07:16):
I'm walking around at about ninety four kilos, so my
weights come down since the starter camp, but I walk
around as a heavyweight ninety eight kilos kind of thing.
So I think I see three heavyweights here today.
Speaker 6 (07:29):
Hell yeah, hell yeah, I'm thinking more super heavyweight y.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
Yeah, yeah, what's the heavyweight? What's the sorry, what's your.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Two Hundred's the two hundred pounds limits?
Speaker 5 (07:37):
So ninety point seven ninety point seven kilos, yeah, which
is not actually that big nowadays, you know.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
So heavy.
Speaker 4 (07:45):
I didn't think so either, David, you did, right, But.
Speaker 5 (07:49):
Anything above that weight you're not going to get any more.
You're going to get faster, You're not going to get fitter.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
You will get more power.
Speaker 5 (07:58):
That's that's one thing that you get signialificantly more of
You get more power. But I feel like the cruiserweight
division you get some really really athletic fighters that have
their conditioning, have the power.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
It's it's kind of the best of both worlds.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
You know, Like I run a our our twenty two
half marathon, so it's like sub form inute case. That's
that's quick for anywhere. It's quick for anyone. So you've like,
at this division, you've got athletes that can, you know,
be endurance athletes, but also produce spectacular knockouts. You know,
(08:36):
and I guess in the in the pro game that
gloves are only designed to protect your hands, not your
opponent's faces.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
So you get a lot more heavy a lot more knockouts. Anyway.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
Yeah, yeah, for the most part, that heavyweight division.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
Is power power is king.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
Are you quite tall for your white class? Is quite
a tall dude.
Speaker 5 (08:57):
I think I think I'm about right, but I think
I've got I've got a frame that could easily move
up to heavyweight. So, like Joseph Parker is about six four,
he says he's six four, He's about six to six
Tyson Fury is a real six nine. He's reel six
foot nine. Like you see him next to me, I
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look like like a weeve.
Speaker 4 (09:21):
He's huge.
Speaker 5 (09:21):
He's huge, but a good basketball I doubted. I feel
like you found his home in boxing. Like you see
him running.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
He's not a good runner, but he could run all day.
Speaker 4 (09:35):
That's the thing.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
He's just he's he's got some kind of God given hellent.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
Then that's sort of the traveler magic.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
The drive man.
Speaker 5 (09:46):
It's pretty incredible. Like we do fifteen rounds of body spraying.
When I went and trained over with Joe and Pyson
Fury for for six months, we do fifteen rounds.
Speaker 3 (09:55):
Of body sparying.
Speaker 5 (09:56):
So I'm the smallest guy there out of like six heavyweights,
and after fifteen rounds, all of us that shattered. Tyson's
the only one that looks like he could do another fifteen. Really,
and he's got a bit he's got a bit more padding. Yeah,
he's got a motor on him. But nonetheless, nonetheless he's
you'd look at him and think he's the most out
of shape guy. He's the only guy that could have
done another fifteen, you know what I mean. Yeah, so
(10:16):
you my organs are like turning inside my road page.
Speaker 4 (10:20):
You know.
Speaker 6 (10:20):
You spend a bit of time Morecambe. Then is that
where you went to train with him?
Speaker 3 (10:23):
Yeah? I did, I did.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
I was.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
That was awesome. It was it was very cool.
Speaker 5 (10:26):
It was it was an eye opener. I learned how
to how to fight. I didn't learn a hell of
a lot. I learned technical aspects of the sport, but
I kind of transitioned my my own mentality from in
the amateur boxing, I felt like a competitor.
Speaker 3 (10:45):
I felt like I was.
Speaker 5 (10:46):
Competing when I went over there and I sparred with
some really really tough guys over there, I feel like
I learned how to fight, Like you need to be
able to fight. It's not it's not a competition anymore.
You're not trying to out point the other guy. You're
trying to learn how to break your guy down and
andiat him.
Speaker 6 (11:05):
And yeah, because it must mean but that's the thing.
It must change, because you're saying when you're an amateur,
you know, like you're saying your competitor, but we.
Speaker 3 (11:13):
Don't have to hurt them.
Speaker 6 (11:14):
Yeah, yeah, that's right. It's about points, you know. And
at the end of it, you've got weird a head
gear because its kind of like calm games. You know,
it's very it looks very technically.
Speaker 5 (11:21):
They got rid of the head gear. But nonetheless, the
gloves you've got about I reckon about six or seven
centimeters of padding it in front of your glove and
the pro and the pro game.
Speaker 3 (11:32):
Your gloves are.
Speaker 5 (11:32):
Made out of horse here, so horse hair really bins
and molds around your fast. It's designed to protect your hand,
not your opponents. So yeah, you get yeah, yeah, you
get a lot more hurt. Yeah, yea yeah, must you've
got dehydration, you've got you've got cuts, You've got a
lot more impact, You've got a lot more time to
take impact as well.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
So completely different game.
Speaker 5 (11:54):
And I didn't really appreciate it until I until I
went over and trained with the lights of the Furies.
Speaker 6 (11:59):
Yeah right, and they taught you you're in the ring.
You're in the ring to basically knock the fuck out
of the guys.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
Guy. Yeah right, business, Yeah, totally.
Speaker 6 (12:07):
I watched the Fury Is at Home with the Furies,
still one of my favorite programs, of him jogging on
the waterfront there at Morecambe and then him looking down
the barrel of the camera and him going, you know,
I've made so much fucking money. I've got too much money.
I don't even have to do with. Why would you
want to live anywhere else? And it panned back and
it was just like two kilometers of mudflats and the
(12:27):
shitter seaside town in the world. But he was so
fucking stoked to be there. Yeah, hard not to vibe
off his energy even via the like everything was so positive.
Speaker 4 (12:37):
Yeah, he was. He seemed like a real dude.
Speaker 1 (12:39):
He had like a Ferrari parked in his driveway and
he's like, I can't even fit in the car.
Speaker 3 (12:44):
Pull up on it, he offered, that's the black one. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (12:47):
He asked me if I wanted to take it for
a spin. I was like, I do not trust myself.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
Just get sideways, send it into a park car.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
Yeah, yeah he did. He did look way too big
for it coming out of it though.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
Yeah, I'm speaking of living in strange places.
Speaker 1 (12:59):
You're living in Queensland town, like an hour out of
out of Brisbane in Queensland.
Speaker 5 (13:03):
Yeah, it's got a population of about eight thousand, right,
and it's kind of the borderline. When you start heading
into into like the middle of Australia, it's like you
start seeing cowboys and whatnot, like cowboys with the with.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
The cowboy hat cleats. Yeah, it's awesome and pretty cool.
Speaker 6 (13:20):
And they fly helicopters like Troy Dan.
Speaker 5 (13:22):
You no, no, no, no, I haven't seen many helicopters
there is that there is an army base out there.
They do some pretty pretty wicked, wicked stuff in there,
and the jets out there.
Speaker 1 (13:32):
But why what is it called getting getting a t
t O in Yeah, why are there a lot of
boxers out there?
Speaker 4 (13:38):
What's going on?
Speaker 5 (13:39):
So on my way back from Morecambe, I I was
on my way to Melbourne for for a fight on
the Devin Haney George Cambosa's undercart and I needed a
coach for four weeks leading up to the to the
Belt and so Dave Higgins from Duco lined me up
with a coach, Noel Thornbury, who's my coach today? And
(13:59):
uh I turned up the airport. Noel had twenty four
hours notice. I was on the plane when he got
the call. Oh, by the way, David's coming over now.
So this is yeah, this is like still during COVID time.
So I'm trying to I'm trying to fill out a
form of where I'm going to be staying, like where
will you be residing? And I was like I found
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I found a random hotel and like a nearby like
a nearby area. I wasn't sure if I was training
in Brisbane or where. They turn up and say, you
know good A nol met his his son Cass and we.
Speaker 3 (14:34):
We just drove out into the country. So where are
we going to.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
YouTube creak like that. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
But so we're driving out then and we're driving into
into Gatton and I'm saying, like this is this is beautiful,
like the lock your valley is a beautiful place. And
he thought I was taking the pistol whole time. But
I love it out there. It's like no.
Speaker 4 (14:58):
No, no, no, no no.
Speaker 5 (14:59):
I tell you see every sunset post I put on
my Instagram, Gatten baby, it's gotten. It's a beautiful landscape.
I've got everything I need there. I'm dating Noel's daughter now,
so I've got to be the best behavior and I am.
Speaker 4 (15:13):
That's worked out well. It's worked out really well.
Speaker 5 (15:16):
It's worked out really well with I'm a part time caretaker.
Speaker 4 (15:19):
I do.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
I do the mowing, I do the whipper snipping. I do.
I call it whipper snipping.
Speaker 5 (15:25):
Now, I do the gurney, water blasting, grab a drunk songs.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
Yeah, this is long ploys. I'm gonna ge him over.
I'm gonna check them up with my daughter.
Speaker 6 (15:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
I love it out there. There's I've got my chickens,
I've got my garden.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
It's like a very very simple lifestyle and it's something
that I think I've I've always been longing for and
you don't realize.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
What you I didn't realize I needed it until I
had it.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
And now I like now, big cities overwhelmed me, you know,
around too many people for too long overwhelms me, you know.
And I've got everything I need in a small country town.
We drive into Brisbane twice a week for sparring. That's
all I need, you know, I've got. I've got wide
open roads to to run with, fresh clean air. A
few brown snakes the roads. Yeah, the brown snakes are
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they've killed a few of Nole's dogs and like we've
seen a few around the apartments kind of thing. So
it's pretty sketchy, but but I love it, like I
just I just need to start wearing shoes, wearing shoes
in the backyards because I was cus. You know, we
walk around beer, I'm turning over logs. I keep forgetting
that they've got like red backs like everywhere. Yeah, I
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got all these, like they've got every dangerous all every
deadly spider in the world is in Australia.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
I used to live over in Australia for a bit.
Speaker 1 (16:51):
When I first went over there, we were playing backyard
cricket and I hit the ball under the house.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
I was like, I'll go and get it, crawl under.
Someone grabbed me by my ankles.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
No, no, no, yeah, don't do it, and then wonder I
walked into a ship. There was a red back spider
in the corner of the thing. I freaked out, so
I ran back out, come back with a can of Flyesprey.
Just dosed the whole thing. And I count that as
a victory over an animal that could have killed me.
Went one on one with some flyesprey. I went one
on one with with an animal that could have killed me,
and I killed it.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
This is seventy thousand dollars fine for killing your brown snake?
Is it something something silly like that?
Speaker 5 (17:22):
It's it's it's illegal to kill brown snakes. But they'll
kill your dog, they'll kill your children.
Speaker 4 (17:27):
Do they give no? Yeah? Exactly, Yeah, but it's bullshit.
Speaker 6 (17:31):
We've just gotta sat quite a bit of me about
which animal do you think you could defeat?
Speaker 4 (17:34):
Oh? Yes, this is one of my I love this game.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
This is one of my favorite.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
I spent so much time thinking about that, so I
reckon The rules are you're one on one, you're basically
in ufc CA. Yeah, and then depending on the size
of the animal that might need to.
Speaker 3 (17:48):
Sitting up on my seat ship.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
So all right, let's start with something that's very similar
to a human. What about like a kangaroo. Like obviously
you're a boxer. This is the sort of forte boxing
you could take kangaroo.
Speaker 5 (18:01):
I could take any kangaroo, I think. Yeah, in front
of any kangaroo that you just can't let them grab
hold of it, can't.
Speaker 4 (18:09):
They'll kick the ship out of you.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (18:11):
Yeah, they rip your guts up. Yeah, because they get
up on the old oh out of me.
Speaker 5 (18:17):
So they range between forty and eighty kilos, so imagine, yes,
an eighty kilo diners.
Speaker 6 (18:24):
You a cruise aweight Yeah, yeah, yeah, you got a
cruise aweight bird.
Speaker 5 (18:30):
They're prehistoric. They made it through the medior strike or whatever. Yeah,
they're tough, right, it's tough. Could you take a could
you take a forty kilos forty?
Speaker 4 (18:40):
Yes, Now, it would suck me up, it would. It
would scratch me in a bit. But but.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
You haven't seen one in person.
Speaker 6 (18:47):
I have.
Speaker 1 (18:47):
Yeah, And they make a noise like a it's like
quite a deep noise that sort of reddles your chest
a little bit.
Speaker 4 (18:53):
For eighty, I'm eight. Where's the crossover where problem is
a problem?
Speaker 6 (19:00):
You're wayne, it's going to be awayn But again, tiny
little heads.
Speaker 1 (19:04):
You know, if I can get to the head, I reckon,
I can. I reckon, I can take it out.
Speaker 3 (19:07):
Okay, So what are you going to do to the head.
That's how you're going to snap it.
Speaker 4 (19:10):
It's the neck. If I get hold of the neck, yeah,
and then.
Speaker 3 (19:14):
Spinning backfast, dude.
Speaker 4 (19:15):
And then I'm like, no, you can't.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
You can't get your arms round because it's already got
his talent. It's got to be a spinning backfast.
Speaker 4 (19:21):
I think maybe I get the elbows going again too close.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
Yeah, you got to keep yours.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
You don't think you could jab that thing to no
jab it's beak, no way.
Speaker 1 (19:32):
Man.
Speaker 4 (19:33):
I'm not saying I'm getting out of this thing like unscathed. Yeah,
like it's going to fuck me up.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
But I do think that I'd walk out with my
hand raised at the end of it. I think I've
had a theory that I reckon I could take out
a giraffe.
Speaker 4 (19:45):
Oh hear me.
Speaker 1 (19:46):
It's because giraffes have to eat so often that it's
eventually it's gonna have to take a nap before I.
Speaker 6 (19:53):
Have you seen when they fight? Have you seen when
they brought me and then smack each other?
Speaker 4 (19:57):
That would clean.
Speaker 3 (20:00):
Getting your legs up for sure.
Speaker 4 (20:01):
That's right. I'm going to have to stay mobile for
the first sort of twelve hours.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Hold on, no, no, no, have you seen them kill lions? Them? So?
Speaker 5 (20:11):
So you think a deer does the same to a dog. Yes, yeah,
a giraffe does it to a lion?
Speaker 3 (20:16):
What are we doing? What are we doing?
Speaker 4 (20:18):
I think, honestly, I was thinking.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
I was still thinking the neck, because'm still thinking about
the neck.
Speaker 5 (20:22):
If I can grab on I think if you can
get your arms around it, you might be okay.
Speaker 3 (20:26):
But how long can you hold onto his neck? But
how do you get up there?
Speaker 4 (20:29):
It's just down.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
You've got to you've got to time it as it
swings down, right, You've got a time.
Speaker 6 (20:33):
You guys are crazy. And then you're dreaming. Man, No
one's beating a giraft a baby one that's just been born.
I reckon I could clop there like real wobbly and
then just take it down.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
But my theory was it's eventually going to get tired
before I am. That's when it kneels down and now
I'm rear naked, choking like you.
Speaker 4 (20:50):
Thinking you're.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
They live in like then the heat every.
Speaker 6 (20:57):
Day we go all day, Like after twelve hours, you're hungry.
You're hungrier than the lions.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Don't even mess with them, but they don't have the
mentality that that's the difference. I think eating monkey taller
than like knee height, I'm done. Monkeys are just too strong.
Speaker 6 (21:10):
Yeah, you don't want to rangutan. They will just clobber
you with't they.
Speaker 3 (21:14):
A main coon? You know what?
Speaker 4 (21:16):
The cats?
Speaker 3 (21:16):
Big cat?
Speaker 5 (21:19):
I've cat sat for one of them before, and oh
they're scary man.
Speaker 6 (21:23):
Well that's I suppose that there's got those one of
those ones that the zoo, the slightly large at the servial. Yeah,
did you take one of those on?
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Nah? I've been like, have you ever had your cat
just freak out in attack you for no reason? Like
tried times that by like four, I reckon.
Speaker 5 (21:37):
Cats put their claws in your yeah, yeah, like it
all goes to your head.
Speaker 2 (21:41):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
So largest animal you reckon probably a kangaroo.
Speaker 6 (21:44):
Oh geez, I reckon I wallaby for me. I don't
about to take a kangaroo. Koos get pretty big.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
I have seen one of the big ones.
Speaker 6 (21:51):
In the the ones with the chest, and.
Speaker 5 (21:53):
I've seen one of them like we get we get
five foot kangaroos. Where we live, you're all over the
shop up to like seven feet. Though that's bose things.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
My message works with animals. And she used to work
at this private zoos sort of thing. I helped her
feed one day and I was in this little trench.
A giraffe put its head over the top, was eating
out of the bucket in this hand. Then an ostrich
comes walking up the thing towards me, and I was
freaking out. Is an ostrich coming? She goes, if you're scared,
put your hand above your head and it'll think that
you're taller than it and it'll back down. So now
(22:25):
I'm standing here, there's a giraffe eating out of my
left arm, my right hand, my right hands above my head,
and the ostrich just walked straight up to me and
started eating out of the same bucket as well.
Speaker 3 (22:35):
Don't you put your head in the sand. Isn't that
put your little ostrich head in the sand? I reckon,
I said to the this is not working.
Speaker 4 (22:43):
She goes, oh, yeah, no, it doesn't work. I was
taking the pit Is it worth.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
Us like mentioning we don't want to fight these animals.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
Yeah, that's all hypothetic.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Year before you get canceled, well.
Speaker 4 (22:54):
Before a kangaroo hears this.
Speaker 6 (22:56):
The other question that we spent a long time talking
about over beers is you're in the ring. You're in
a ring. It's a fight to the death, Okay, a
fight for survival. And look, I'm not saying we endorse this,
but I've got kids. There is thousands of kids in
the crowd, and they're coming at you, five at a time,
(23:19):
five at a time, and it's fight to the death.
Wa Yeah, they're coming in waves. How many waves can
you survive in that ring?
Speaker 4 (23:26):
And they're coming.
Speaker 6 (23:26):
They're not They're not there to just wrestle.
Speaker 4 (23:28):
They are to kill you.
Speaker 6 (23:29):
They're like they want to these Polynesian kids.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
You know, we've got Alex Lear Jr. As on my undercut.
He's eighteen years old.
Speaker 5 (23:40):
I saw him fighting at fifteen and he's an absolute monster.
I saw him hitting the paths and I was like,
I actually know I've seen him at six years old.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
I'll see you in this video. I'll see you.
Speaker 5 (23:50):
This video of him hitting the pads at six years old.
He still hits harder than I do today.
Speaker 4 (23:55):
Yeah, okay, it's against them, they're five years old.
Speaker 6 (23:58):
Okay, So I know this sounds too the all different
ages when it's a it's a representation of the of
the demographic of New Zealand. So there will be all
sorts coming at you. Yeah, so I reckon I could do.
The other question is.
Speaker 4 (24:15):
Can you hear them? Do they cry? Because because.
Speaker 6 (24:20):
Cry because I've come out, You're like, they want to
kill you and you're not the first one out and
he will be crying for his much.
Speaker 3 (24:25):
Can we can we say these are like zombie kids?
Speaker 4 (24:27):
Yeah? Yeah, they don't make a noise when you hit them.
Speaker 3 (24:31):
They probably they're probably crying the whole time.
Speaker 4 (24:34):
No, I know, this is the discussion we have.
Speaker 6 (24:36):
And then the cacophony that would happen after six or
seven waves have been put down would just overwhelm you
and then you just go out. I'm done taking So
you guys have been canceled.
Speaker 3 (24:47):
This is your last podcast.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
You listened stuff, David. This is okay, this is okay,
definitely okay, it's not okay.
Speaker 3 (24:56):
It's just got my first beat of sweat coming through
my shirt.
Speaker 4 (24:59):
Now you don't have to answer. I said, I would go.
Speaker 6 (25:02):
I said, I reckon, I do five, and then I'd
be two paffed, and then they would just galler for me,
you know, when they would have you got I got
three and they can probably take me as But if
it's fights for survival, and I did talk, can I
have a cricket bat or you know, any weapons? And
he said no, it's just pure. It's just because if
we have a cricket bat, I'm becking myself just probably
(25:24):
up to a dozen waves. But if it's just hand
to hand, I'm five or six and then I'm done.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
It's basically a six waves.
Speaker 6 (25:32):
Yeah talking about yeah, but every it's every two minutes,
so five come, bang, bang bang.
Speaker 3 (25:38):
The whole class.
Speaker 6 (25:41):
Kids, David, kids not human human? What about you and I?
How many waves do you have it? Every two minutes?
Five more come?
Speaker 4 (25:50):
It's a fitness test, man.
Speaker 1 (25:51):
I did a bloody boxing fitness class on Wednesday and
I could barely get through a bag that didn't fight back.
Speaker 4 (25:57):
Hurrican word for maybe three How many kids are five? Five?
Speaker 6 (26:05):
Five year olds are coming to eat you? Every two minutes.
Speaker 1 (26:08):
Every two minutes, I flat line that first five year
old I reckon. The other four are back in half.
There's mombie kids. We've discussed this. They're there and they
for them, it's survival as well. They're going to the death.
Speaker 4 (26:19):
Like like three and then I'm blowing real hard and
then they're coming from behind. They're on your back. Yeah.
Do I get a risk in between?
Speaker 5 (26:28):
I think as soon as you get taken down, yeah, yeah,
as soon as you start hitting the deck.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
Yeah yeah, my guess. Thanks. Probably not where I need
it to be, to be taking on waves.
Speaker 6 (26:36):
And knowing five year olds, they'll I'm straight for your
nuts as well, straight for the balls. Yeah, straight for
the balls.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
I think we should depart from this subject of conversation
before it's probably too late to be fair.
Speaker 4 (26:51):
I wanted to did you actually ask you this before?
Speaker 1 (26:53):
But you haven't seen the video, But as Rader Sonya
was filmed on k Road is outside standing outside of
of his cars Flash Air Supercar and this dude's yeah,
and there's a guy just in his grill basically like
asking to fight him, and I was like, he posted
a statement after It's like it's actually ridiculous that I
(27:14):
can't go down to the diary after sparring and get
a pie, like without someone accosting me. Have you ever
had anyone like come up to you and I want
to want to punch punch on or.
Speaker 5 (27:27):
Surprise man, I've like, I've made no enemies. I've made
no I call myself the nice guy. Yeah, because I
I make every effort to avert situations like that is he.
It's probably a little bit different because he uses his
mouth a lot. Yeah, and like ah, for that reason,
(27:47):
he's so marketable, you know. But you'll get You'll get
the kids like that that'll come and yeah, like you said,
it cost you for just who you are, just to
to to make a name. You know, I've I've never
been in a street fight. I've never been in a
fight outside of the ring. And I like, that's like
(28:08):
a that's a winning record as far as i'm you
know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (28:10):
So I've never actually.
Speaker 5 (28:14):
Yeah, no, I'm really quick to shut those down.
Speaker 3 (28:17):
But I could. I could fight, though I think it's
not to say I wouldn't win the fight, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 4 (28:24):
I think it's madness.
Speaker 6 (28:25):
The guy you watched the video, a guy would have
got his head knocked off his shoulders, Like, what's the
fucking what, I don't understand it.
Speaker 5 (28:32):
I've been in camp with is He and I was
I was in his camp as his main's striking partner
before he fought Anderson Silva. Now Anderson silver was the reason,
was one of the leading reasons why I started combat
sports in the first place. I thought he was also
like cut holes in my socks and do muay Thai
on the bag. Yeah, amazing athlete. I was in camp
(28:53):
with is He as his striking partner, so we would
we would spar only boxing, obviously, but he would very
so often the head close close, very very close, you know,
So he would he would he would let me know
exactly that there's it's a different range in in in
the US, in the UFC and mixed martial arts.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
So he would give me a little like calf.
Speaker 5 (29:17):
Kick, like a like a little tap ye every soft
just to let me know, well, I'm I'm helping him spine,
so obviously I need to be a little bit more
aware of like what what he needs from me.
Speaker 4 (29:28):
And I'm doing like an anders and silver impersonation sort
of thing.
Speaker 5 (29:32):
Yeah. Yeah, So that was the first time, I actually
switched predominantly to southboard because I'm an orthodox fight.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
I'm right handed, basically.
Speaker 5 (29:40):
Using my left hand essentially, it was it was quite difficult,
but now I do it really well because of like that.
So I would be sparring him, real competitive and stuff,
but every so often he would remind me that he's
got like six to eight different weapons that he could
use against me, you know. So I'd back him into
(30:01):
the corner double jab right hand. Whether I landed or not,
he'd pulled me into it like a Muayti clinch, and
I'd see my life flash before would come up this
close to my face and it was like it was beautiful,
but I'd I'd come back up like I've just seen
a ghost, you know.
Speaker 4 (30:18):
I'd be like, Ah, that's that's a street.
Speaker 5 (30:21):
Fight, you know, that's that's that's how dangerous that guy
is in a street fight. That that bloke I haven't
I haven't seen the video yet, but that bloke has
no business starting and that with a guy like he
is the assault of the earth Man.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
He's that.
Speaker 5 (30:35):
He's one of the nicest guys you'll meet, and just
disappointing that people have that kind of mentality around here,
or like it's it's that weird tool poppies and the
other thing we talked about crabs in a bucket. They
all in a drag when I was down, and it's
like why don't ye, why don't we pay more attention
to you know that our when is we we got
(30:58):
the most gold medals at the per capita, like we've
got we've got everything going for us. We just need
to we just need to keep recognizing those athletes because
they're they're they're leaving the charge. He's one of the
most famous UFC fighters in history because he's got that
(31:19):
mouth and because he because he speaks his mind, because
he's he's.
Speaker 3 (31:24):
That fluent in the ring and out of the ring, that.
Speaker 5 (31:28):
We should be applauding him and we should be like,
you know, building him up, you know, but like people
are so quick to kind of tear those guys down
because it's like.
Speaker 3 (31:37):
You don't represent me, you represent our country man. That's
what we're doing.
Speaker 6 (31:42):
Looking at that, I don't think people are going to
be judging is he after that, I think they'll be
going to go And that guy is the biggest penis
to walk the planet, Like he you know what I mean.
I was like, I actually felt embarrassed guy watching it.
I was like, oh, dude, a fuck, come on man, because.
Speaker 3 (31:58):
He wouldn't have he wouldn't have gotten anything out as
you would.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
He just walk away, Yeah, fingers car and walked off.
Speaker 4 (32:05):
Kind of got into his supercar.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
It's to get in his busted piece of shick because
there's no win there is he like if he sparks
his dude out, then what I don't know, it doesn't Yeah, anyway,
would you ever consider UFC?
Speaker 5 (32:18):
I used to and really like, yeah, not anymore right
up until you saw is he? Yeah? Right until I
saw my life flash Wise was like this is like
my uh, it's like a past life I've lived.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
And I was like, yeah that it wasn't for me.
Then it's not for me now yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:32):
So what's the looking at this? So you're on the
road to the title Now that's that's the whole thing.
Joseph Parker's come on as a promoter. What what does
that mean for Joseph? Like what what is he actually
doing as a as a promoter?
Speaker 5 (32:45):
And it's it's a it's a career after boxing. A
lot of boxes don't have any anything in mind once
they finished boxing. Tyson Fury is one of those guys
that needs boxing, you know, like needs boxing for his
for his sanity, you know. So Joseph, Joseph's a smart
guy and he's he's planning seeds for down the line,
(33:07):
and and I think he's gonna be a great promoter.
So I'm blessed to have him in my corner because
he's he's at the height of his career right now.
You know, he's come up, he dipped back down and
he's back on the rise, you know. So, uh, amazing
timing for me to to have the likes of him
in my corner and backing me.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
Do co events Thornberry Promotions, my coach, NORL. Thornbury.
Speaker 5 (33:29):
We've got Manuka Doctor on board as the as the
naming right sponsor. We've got The Zone, I guess the
first the first card New Zealand that the Zone is
backing and they've and they've they've agreed to a multi
fight deal where we can keep putting his on the
Zone dot com.
Speaker 3 (33:45):
It's it's more download. It's like so it's an app.
Speaker 5 (33:49):
So that they've gone they've gone digital, like you can
get it in any country.
Speaker 3 (33:55):
There's a subscription all there are pay per views like.
Speaker 5 (33:57):
You can you can, it's it's it's it's for our generation. Yeah,
you go on your phone and you download it and
you start watching.
Speaker 6 (34:03):
So it's D D A Z Y download that.
Speaker 5 (34:08):
Yep, and that will be that will be the only
place you can watch this fight. And we've got a
wicked undercar. We've got four heavyweight bouts on before mine
and there. He was one of my childhood heroes and
I ended up training with him at fourteen years old.
I met him down at it was Ringside gym at
the time. He was my first mentor, and like, what
a great example of a guy, you know.
Speaker 4 (34:29):
He he ah.
Speaker 5 (34:33):
He kind of directed me in the right direction. I
know there are a lot of rugby players that might
not leave great accounts of themselves. Liam Liam was the
right guy for me, like because he always pointed me
in the right direction. I remember going I was in
his corner for his first corporate fight. I think, yeah,
I was in his corner and I remember he had
(34:55):
he had per dims and he said, all right, Dave,
I'm going to teach you how to eat. I'm gonna
give you all my per dms on on the only
condition is you have to spend it on food.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
And so I'm I'm like.
Speaker 5 (35:05):
A like a fifty kilo kid, like, yeah, yeah, how
do we do that? And he took me around to
all his different spots and man, we ate, all right,
I've doubled my weight since then.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
Was one of them?
Speaker 3 (35:18):
No, no, no, no, very healthy, all healthy.
Speaker 5 (35:21):
Like steaks and sushi and yeah, the Japanese cuisine and
like Asian fusion.
Speaker 3 (35:26):
Beautiful man.
Speaker 4 (35:27):
And then he's who's he fighting?
Speaker 3 (35:28):
Is it Jordan Simmy? Yeah, I don't know much about him.
Was he an influencer?
Speaker 4 (35:33):
Yeah? Well yeah, what is he just influence?
Speaker 3 (35:35):
He's just talking? Is that?
Speaker 4 (35:37):
Basically?
Speaker 1 (35:38):
He fought Hodges, Justin Hodges and one of the theeah okay.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
Yeah, yeah, so I heard that's going to be a
good fight.
Speaker 4 (35:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (35:45):
Heard he can bang too.
Speaker 4 (35:47):
I heard he can bang. I mean he beat Hodges,
I think.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Yeah, there was some big storyline about how he wanted
to beat Justin Hodges to prove to his missus that
he could get her back, and he did it. But
then she's giving him the flicks and oh man, no,
he's back in the ring. But yeah, four absolute Banks
are they still tickets available to the to the card itself?
Speaker 4 (36:06):
Can you still get along?
Speaker 5 (36:08):
It's black tie corporate event, and I think there's only
two tables left us. Yeah right, yeah, ninety tables eighty
eight sold, which is unreal. So ideally we'll get another
card before the end of the year, which I'm hoping
will be in a stadium, you know, so the so
you're there, yeah, spark, I think thirteen thousand, yeah would
(36:29):
be amazing. But yeah, live on his own, that's that's
the place to watch it.
Speaker 1 (36:34):
Yeah, all right, Well, I think we've been knock the
sing on the head before you get canceled.
Speaker 6 (36:38):
I've got one more. I've got one more thing. Every
gifts that comes on here we do twenty two and two,
which is twenty two quick fire questions straight off in
two minutes.
Speaker 3 (36:47):
I'm really bad at these days. No, I have a
logical mind.
Speaker 4 (36:50):
See yeah, it's just it's just one or the other.
Speaker 6 (36:53):
Go with your hat, okay, So, David Nikki, this is
you're twenty two and two.
Speaker 4 (36:58):
Coffee or tea, coffee or drugs? Six hard or fast.
Speaker 3 (37:04):
Fast?
Speaker 6 (37:05):
Would you rather wake up nude next to Mike Tyson
or George Foreman?
Speaker 3 (37:09):
Oh, George Foreman.
Speaker 6 (37:11):
Tie or Indian ty eat out or dine in.
Speaker 3 (37:17):
Dining?
Speaker 6 (37:18):
Freddy Mercury or Elton John Freddie Mercury, wet or dry?
Dry dogs or cats dogs? Trevor Kelse or Taylor Swift.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
I don't really know either of them. I'll say Taler Swift.
Speaker 6 (37:34):
I know Floyd Mayweather, Conor McGregor, and Evander Holyfield. Who's
got the biggest downstairs? What boxing legend would you bring
back from.
Speaker 4 (37:44):
The dead.
Speaker 3 (37:47):
Man Sugar A. Robinson?
Speaker 6 (37:49):
If the ceremony to bring back sugar Ay Robinson resulted
in you talking like Mike Tyson for the rest of
your life, would you still do itne?
Speaker 4 (37:57):
Have you ever fighted again?
Speaker 3 (37:59):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (38:00):
Have you ever killed anything bigger than an insect?
Speaker 3 (38:02):
No?
Speaker 6 (38:03):
Who is the most famous person you've met?
Speaker 3 (38:10):
Lenox Lewis?
Speaker 2 (38:11):
Maybe?
Speaker 6 (38:11):
Oh yeah, some Fury is pretty famous?
Speaker 3 (38:13):
Fury?
Speaker 2 (38:14):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (38:14):
Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 6 (38:18):
If you had a reoccurring dream that a snowman killed
himself with a hair dryer, would you be concerned? Say
that again, If you had a reoccurring nightmare that a
snowman killed himself with a hair dryer, would you be concerned? Uh?
Speaker 3 (38:33):
No, I think that would be hilarious.
Speaker 6 (38:35):
If you were offered a knighthood, would you accept it?
Speaker 3 (38:38):
No?
Speaker 6 (38:39):
What age do you think people say they've had a
fall instead of falling down.
Speaker 4 (38:45):
Sixty five?
Speaker 6 (38:47):
Have you ever screamed google me, motherfucker?
Speaker 3 (38:51):
No?
Speaker 6 (38:52):
If you if you were to get a statue made
of yourself, what pose would it be and where would
you put the statue?
Speaker 4 (39:03):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (39:04):
Man.
Speaker 6 (39:05):
An example of this is we we asked Tim Saudi,
cricketer Tim Saudi, what do you do? And he said
he would be writing a stallion with that rearing up
with its genitalia facing the door, and he'd put it
on Daniel for Torre's front lawn.
Speaker 3 (39:18):
What no way mine would be?
Speaker 5 (39:21):
Mine would be like, uh, okay, it'll be It'll be
Roughiki holding up Simba be me holding my chicken.
Speaker 4 (39:30):
Chicken. Nice.
Speaker 6 (39:32):
No, that's the that's the twenty twe twenty two and two.
Thanks very much, there's a wicked Cheers guys.
Speaker 1 (39:37):
Thanks for joining us, Mat and go well next weekend.
We'll be there ringside to cheer you on.
Speaker 6 (39:42):
You're a great and you're a great New Zealander and
thanks for coming on.
Speaker 3 (39:44):
Cheers man, Thank you guys.
Speaker 2 (39:46):
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