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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Live from the Export Beer Gardens Studios. This is the
Agenda Podcast for Monday, the thirtieth of September.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
The Agenda Podcast, the home of Sporting Nonsense and clap Trap,
brought to you my next sport a culture.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Great to be back.
Speaker 4 (00:16):
Great to be back, Matt, Yeah, like, great to have
you back.
Speaker 5 (00:19):
Hey, I've actually, like, I'm written a bit of an
article about your trop away.
Speaker 3 (00:23):
Have you? If I could share something.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
That's because you you weren't you unfortunately couldn't make it.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
I could have made it. I was available, I was
very available. Okay, could have made it. Okay? Is this okay? Okay?
I've written article, have you?
Speaker 5 (00:35):
I've written article on my substack Man Heath got substackk
dot com.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Yep. The fear of missing out.
Speaker 5 (00:41):
As we speak, my social media feed is lit up
with shots of my best buddies from the Alternative Commentary
Collective attending Octoberfest in Munich, Germany. It's clearly the greatest
time anyone has ever had, or ever well have, and
I'm missing out.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
I feel upset. Oh okay, I feel abandoned and a justin.
Speaker 5 (00:57):
Fairworld, I would have been over there with them, after all,
it was widely advertised that I would be the betrayal
again in April twenty twenty four, and I received a
calendar invite from close friend gla okay, requiring my okay
next thing. And I was on a German being made outfit,
a dingdrel, a dingdrel. So it was nice if you want,
if you want to have read the rest of that
(01:18):
full score Settler, it's at man he got substack dot com.
Speaker 3 (01:22):
Shit that does sound it's like a school seat.
Speaker 5 (01:24):
It was a seventeen hundred word I do say it
like you the most important thing is when you're left behind,
is to keep your dignity and not indulge in a
wine fest. Yeah, and I think the seventeen hundred word
winch fest is.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
So that's like saying don't take offense and then unloading.
You've just reversed that and you've unloaded and then at
the end gone like I'm not winging. Yeah, I'm fine,
I'm telling you fine. Anyway, it looked like a good time.
Speaker 4 (01:48):
Yes, some people aren't even back yet, Mania Stewart.
Speaker 5 (01:51):
As I'm looking into Joe Joy's eyes, I'm not sure
if he's back. Nope, his body's back. But this this
sort of darkness behind those eyes. It's like a shell
of man.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
He left half his soul in Amsterdam and left the
rest of it in Octoberfest in Munich.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
Right, Yeah, so that's why.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
And poor Joe got he was an economy class in
his seat didn't recline.
Speaker 5 (02:11):
Oh so he understands what portrayal is like as well.
So you you, you were abandoned as well. You're abandoned
by g Lane and Jeremy was going up to premium economy.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Yeah, they enjoyed a nice premium economy flight home seventeen
hours where I sat an economy and my seat didn't recline. Okay, okay,
the team's falling apart. We just need to get things
back on track here. But we we are back.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
What a great time.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
We had Nick and Andy, we had Callum and Phil,
we had Brandon and Vince, and we had the lovely Mal.
It was Tom and James as well, so we had
a good crew. Yeah over there, it was It was
a good time.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
It looked fun, Yeah, it was. It was great fun.
Have you matured it all since the last time we
went to Amsterdam?
Speaker 5 (02:53):
And I was just wondering because last time the behavior
in Ampsdam was terrible.
Speaker 4 (02:57):
I think it was worse. Really, I think it years
and no growth. Regression.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
I seriously think it was regression because I can't three
days was enough I needed to get out.
Speaker 5 (03:09):
Yeah, I was like, that's like Las Vegas. Yeah, you
only need two days in Las Vegas.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:14):
I mean look, for example, we went to the Heinekenfactory. Yeah,
and at the Heinekenfectory.
Speaker 4 (03:18):
A great time.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
At the Heinekenfectory. The dB people looked after.
Speaker 5 (03:20):
Us, well, last time we were booked in to go
to the he infect When we're saying and Lee, how
it was.
Speaker 3 (03:24):
Like, put it this way, people don't want to see
the red light district. So we drove right past all
our pre organized things. We didn't do the red light.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
We didn't even go there, didn't even go the O
this time.
Speaker 3 (03:34):
What Yeah, rubbish. I felt like we've done it. Jerry
told me that you went. You went there and you
walked around the same.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Hundred Yeah we did, yeah that night, but we didn't Yeah. Right,
but the Heinekenfectory you didn't go.
Speaker 3 (03:48):
Well, not in the day. Very different the art. There's
one stage at the Heinekenfactory.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
It's a great tour like it's it is a multi
media sensory overload, and at the start they do warn
you if you are on any psychedelic substances that are
common and just.
Speaker 3 (04:07):
Let us know because you may freak out.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
I love that one of the biggest tourist attractions in Amsterdam,
and that's one of the warnings they give you. If
you're pregnant, suffer epilepsy, or you're tripping out, let us know.
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Yeah, it's not like if you're tripping out.
Speaker 5 (04:18):
And New Zealand be like any intoxicated people will not
be tolerated in the Heineken tour.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
It's like if your waste, just tell us, yeah, just
let us know, just look and look out for you.
But it's the biggest drink beer hype tour. You get
to into the tour and you're like, fuck, you want
to drink a beer living in the morning. Then you
get a beer and there's one section you can personalize
your own bottle of Heineken. And they're all coming past
you on a conveyor belt and you're on a computer
screen on touch screen.
Speaker 4 (04:44):
And we did Lovely Trenty.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
We did a minute piece and the sixy Camel all
their own little personalized bottle.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
We may have chucked a nose kai just for a
laugh of the fourth one.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
No, yeah, so we chuck that in as well, but
we just wanted to test the algorithm to see if
you know, you get a other stuff. Anyway, Mania is
on the he's on the touchscreen next to us, and
I told the story about my son's lineout call sixty
nine dog shit and he got told off in a
tournament and made to do it again and he said
sixty nine dog poo. And for some reason that story
really resonated with Minaya, and he was on the computer
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and his name he put on was sixty nine dog shit,
and it went through the system and he was like ah,
because he was expecting it to pick up swear words
and saying, you can't do it. Anyway, into the tour,
very as you're leaving the Heine Confectory, you line up
and you get your personalized bottles, and we're sitting there,
we're getting our bottles, and he goes a yeah, here's
my here's my token, and the lady's like, m I'm sorry, sir,
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And so he thought he was going to just had
to talk to a computer, but a lovely little Dutch lady.
She's like, sir, I can't, we can't put sixty nine
dog shit on a bottom. And we were rolling around
and he was like he kind of went but read
and he was like, ah, sixty nine dog pooh, And
her face was like no.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
So it worked for your son, but not for what.
But he lives standing there. He goes, is there anything
else you want to put on it? And we'll get
it quickly made so not as as not as girlfriends now.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
The indie panic then got thanks mate, and a cruel
twist of fader got taken off Hi at the airports.
He tried to bring it and carry on and they
took it off him. See we're going to take this off.
He goes, you take it, take it. It's memories. It
was sixty nine dogs shit.
Speaker 3 (06:26):
I'd be upset.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
What stayed were you guys in for the flight home?
I can imagine. I remember, like the flight back from
London was. The trip to London we did was a
great time, but the flight home was the worst.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
Time of my entire life.
Speaker 4 (06:38):
Let's just say that when you just got nothing.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
Left in the team and you can't celebrate on the
way there, you're like all excited, so you'll have a
few and your ged up for the trip. On the
way home, you've got nothing, nothing but regret, misery and torture, so.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Much regret, so much anxiety as well. I mean on
the way over, I had Manaiah and Jury behind us,
behind Jerry and I and.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
Imagine they would have just watched a movie and gone
to sleep.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
I drifted off to sleep with the sounds of more
cans of beer are opened, and then two more please,
and then.
Speaker 3 (07:16):
That's all I can hear coming from behind me.
Speaker 1 (07:19):
And they came back and they got sorry, we've run
out of and I thought they were going to say
run out of beer. They said, we've run out of
Tiger and they were like, oh, just two heinekens in
and they're like okay, and have no trouble getting through
customs or anything. No, no, I know, because there was
a time where we're going to through London and we
arrived and we're dangerously staying.
Speaker 5 (07:40):
Oh yeah, And it's quite sometimes like trying to get
through customs with you when you're a nebra headitors, because
you could you start talking really poshly like to try
and cover.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
Up, so like good evening, sir, just flying from Auckland.
I am New Zealand.
Speaker 4 (07:56):
I am not a traveling drug dealer.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
In New Zealand.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
When we landed after seventeen hours, the welcome we got
in New Zealand was the worst.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
So basically, get off.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
There's a customs lady standing in there, and there's another
customs guy on the tunnel going, there's gonna be dogs
when you come out, Single file, please, single file. We
get out off the bridge, met by four more customers,
go against the wall, single.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
File, and we're like, they say, yelling at you.
Speaker 4 (08:22):
Yeah, single file, against the wall, keep walking.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
We're like the fuck and these dogs running everywhere.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
And that was our welcome to New Zealand after seventeen
hours on a plane getting yelled at with labradors. And
then obviously we've been to Amsterdam and a few other places,
so I got god knows what someone could have put
in my luggage. So you immediately start sweating and the
dog comes over and.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
Sniffing my leg.
Speaker 1 (08:41):
I said, mate, I've got dog shit all over me
from rolling around a dog shit. It's not drugs, it's
dog shit whatever, mate, drugs dog shit. I already had
my excuse. If I had to end of my bag,
I was gonna go go rolling dog shit in Amsterdam.
That's probably what it's sniffing.
Speaker 5 (08:56):
I've got this weird thing about the reports. And I
know this is a sports obstensibly sports podcast. That's my
nice Stuart loves to say, but why do you get
told off at the reports? Like I was running late
for a plane recently and I was arrived less than
half an hour before the flight took off, and this
one goes, you can't you can't arrive and expect to
get on a plane. She just started telling them off.
It's like, I'm the customer here. It's the only it's
(09:18):
the only industry in the world with the customer. It's
constantly getting told off. You get off a plane, you're
a customer for the airport, yell dying back and getting
yelled out by customs. You're late for the plane, you're
told off like a school ku. It's like, if I
can't get on the plane, just say I'm sorry, you
can't get on the plane.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (09:30):
I don't need the lecture. I don't need to be
told off.
Speaker 4 (09:33):
It's like, I know I'm late, I don't know I
don't need it, just just just they make it quite hostile.
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Yeah, it's quite a hostile and moron, yeah yeah, I agree.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
And even clicking your luggage, jeez, that's intense. You got
boomers whacking into the becky, your your r chillies with
their trolleys trying to get to the front.
Speaker 4 (09:47):
You dude. Fuck, it's not even started yet.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
Anyway.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Anyway, sport, we'll take a quick break backwards some sport, right,
ragby over the weekend, big results outside the AB's victory,
and I'll talk about the under eighty five's. The national
under eighty five kg final was before the curtain raiser.
Last year's final was an absolute barnstormer. This year even better.
(10:15):
It was the high school old Boys light Beers from
christ Church versus the Papacuta Black Panthers and it was
one an extra time Papaka the Black Panthers scored a
try an extra time and converted it from the sideline
to in twenty three to twenty two.
Speaker 3 (10:32):
It was one of the great games. Is rugby better
at under eighty five?
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Oh? It's basically like grown men playing high school rugby,
you know what I mean? High school ruby is quite fast,
everyone's the same size the props, the same size as
the half back, as the same size as the winger.
It's basically so break the line a lot more fifteen
loose forwards. Yeah, yeah, it's fifteen loosewards. On the field,
there is I mean, give it, give or take. There
is a small few small size discrepancies. But out of
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the back of the the Wi Blacks, I'm calling them
the Wi Blecks. There's going to be in New Zealand
under eighty five's teams selected. Wow, and the Wi Blacks
will get to tour Asia and play full strength Asian nations. Wow,
whether they play Vietnam's team or they play Singapore or that.
Speaker 3 (11:16):
So we how far are they going to Shri Lanka
because Sri Lanka loves rugby?
Speaker 4 (11:19):
Yeah, well hopefully they do. But that's quite funny, which.
Speaker 5 (11:21):
Sri Lanka we need to hand out as to them,
Yeah in rugby because that was humiliating it.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
But it'd be quite funny because I imagine that they'll
advertise it as you know, the all Blacks eighty five's
or whatever, but people will just see all Blacks and
when they turn up, these guys are why are they
so small?
Speaker 4 (11:39):
Good?
Speaker 3 (11:40):
But small.
Speaker 5 (11:41):
I like, how you've gone for the Wi Blacks when
small blacks are sitting right in front of you.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
I thought someone uses the small blacks. I think, isn't
that the all blacks. There's an all black kind of
kids program they called.
Speaker 3 (11:51):
The which is like a club which so we blex
is open. The we blax is open like a we
men the weed blex.
Speaker 1 (11:59):
So that was a great curtain raiser to what was
actually turned out to be a great game down in
Wellington thirty three thirteen five tries to one. Pretty comprehensive
in terms of tries, two to Jebba the butt, one
to will Jordan, one to severed piece and one to
to Maty Williams.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
But great to see jeb with the.
Speaker 5 (12:18):
Butt, jab the butt. Just he plays a hell of
a game. Then he gets yellow carded. It's fine, that's
just the way he goes.
Speaker 1 (12:24):
Now, that was lazy though, that was it was also
he was like so surprised, but he basically came from
an offside position and booted the ball out.
Speaker 5 (12:30):
Yeah, but also so last time it was an intentional knockdown. Yes,
about the same point.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Of the game. But he said he's done enough.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Two tries.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
He's looking great though, Jebba.
Speaker 1 (12:42):
The butt, he is looking great and obviously he's not
happy with Jebbeth Butt. So we're trying to think of
another Star Wars nickname. Thing that was chew Clucker? Was it?
Speaker 3 (12:48):
Chew Cluker was the one that.
Speaker 4 (12:51):
But but he's not a Rockie.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
No, it has to be but related or use it
doesn't work.
Speaker 1 (12:56):
I know, well we did have Caleb Clakdeshian. That doesn't
roll off the tongue when you're commentating.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
No, you need it needs to be but related if
people are going to do it. He is because Jabber
the butter is so good.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
But your boy Wallace the t Wallace side titty good.
Speaker 5 (13:13):
Seeing we're talking on the met jury brick for Shure
this morning, the fifth the last one ever that you
you were disparaging of your blindside.
Speaker 3 (13:23):
I was worried. I was worried.
Speaker 1 (13:24):
It wasn't a specialist position and he's going to get
basically put on the biggest stage in the hood in
South Africa against South Africa and be put off blindside
flankas I.
Speaker 3 (13:33):
Was worried for him.
Speaker 1 (13:34):
I was worried for the fact that if he didn't
play well, people would criticize him and never play again.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
That's why I'm worried. But now he's just the superstar.
He's trench.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
Put him at eight, yeah, put severe at at blindside
and let him run off the back of the scrum.
Speaker 3 (13:48):
Yeah, he's a ball carry, he's a ballplayer. It's a
great haircut, great great hair.
Speaker 5 (13:53):
Great pass, Ok, Little Richard, perfect pass to set up
Anton Lennont Brown.
Speaker 3 (13:57):
I believe it was.
Speaker 4 (13:58):
Yeah, no, little bit of a cheat. Chiefs mana in
to play there.
Speaker 5 (14:01):
Yeah No, I've thoroughly enjoyed that game. But I've got
a slight complaint about all blacks fans. And I've had
this before. That was the best you get from all
blacks fans. And I understand that Courtney Place was rocking
and the crowd of the cake Tin were given it.
Speaker 3 (14:14):
They're all.
Speaker 5 (14:15):
But then you watch the South African Argentinian game on
the lo vout and it is a freaking party. People
are dancing around, there's so much color. People are just
having the best. It's a festival, it's Marty Gras and
there's just something about it. And I think you said
to me this morning, Gelane, it's because they don't go
(14:36):
expecting to win, so we kind of go along to
pay tribute to the all blacks and watch them win.
Whereas other teams around the world, like college football or
so many different things, people go for the party and
the game is at the party.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
Yes, they're really yeah.
Speaker 5 (14:54):
That's the entertainment, and they're hugely supportive, and they really care,
they live and die. They arguably care more than we do.
But they go to celebrate the event and be part
of an event. Whereas we sit and we're all wearing black,
I think that's a problem, you know, I mean all blacks.
The uniform looks great on the team, but the fact
we all were black there, it looks the whole crowd.
Speaker 3 (15:12):
Looks so dim and dark.
Speaker 5 (15:14):
And it's at night, whereas the South African games are
played in the day. So it just it's an absolute festival.
And I just I just think we need to get that.
And I think it was you also saying that maybe
as we aren't going to be so dominant around the world,
because people are saying now that we may never get
back to that level of dominance that we had in
the Richie McCourt era, that maybe we can learn to
(15:37):
just love it love the team for who they are,
love the characters, and enjoy it and learn to enjoy
the party.
Speaker 4 (15:44):
That's actually Cory learn.
Speaker 1 (15:45):
We're not quite there with cricket, but we're on the
journey with cricket. And during the nineties and two thousands,
when we started the Beigemagade, that's what it was all about.
It was about passion, not fashion. It was anything but
the cricket. Yeah, I mean that's how the acc started.
It was like, we talk about anying but the cricket.
We talked about the cricket because we were there to
commentate it. But it is taking it beyond just winning
because our cricket team don't win all the time.
Speaker 4 (16:08):
So you've got to find something else to hold onto.
And now hold on to is going for.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
A date at the cricket with your mates, having a
few beers, having a laugh, talking some shit. If we win,
fucking great is it?
Speaker 5 (16:17):
Because the prices are too high for the tickets, so
you only get I mean, there were some people party.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
I'm not I'm not. I'm not running it down that
we can do.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
When they were singing Sweet Caroline, they stopped the music
and the crowd kept singing through through the phases of
and they were singing and then we had to stop
the commentary.
Speaker 3 (16:37):
McCay.
Speaker 1 (16:37):
Mcconey goes, my god, the crowd is singing and there's
no DJ punishing them, and I said, well they are
off the back of the DJ punishing that is finishing
the song. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:45):
Yeah, but they were.
Speaker 4 (16:46):
They were noisy. There was no empty seats.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
It was like Warrington almost redeemed themselves.
Speaker 5 (16:51):
But the noise is not the level of noise there
you get in South Africa is so loud South America.
Speaker 1 (16:57):
It go to Argentina. I mean, look at their crowds.
They fucking hardly ever win. They're winning now, which is great.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
Yeah, but they don't care. They will party no matter what.
They look great as well.
Speaker 5 (17:06):
Yeah, we need to get that because that's that's the thing,
you're right, That is the entertainment, and we kind of
forget that. It's not about going to worship at the
altar of the All Blacks. Yeah, like you can have
bathing their reflected glory and somehow you're a better person
because the All Blacks are great.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
That's the biggest examples. That was the twenty and eleven
final at Eton Park. Yeah, the quietest r final of
all time where you could could hear it seriously clear
a pin drop the whole game because everyone was as
terrified that we were going to lose.
Speaker 4 (17:36):
Yeah, and that's that's such as the worst mentality ever.
I remember seeing the game.
Speaker 5 (17:41):
You're so terrified that you're going to lose that you
forget that part of your job is to support the
team by making a.
Speaker 4 (17:47):
Lot of noise the best thing you can do. It's like,
just give them support.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
The last Wellington Test against Argentina, they lost in the
last ten minutes. They needed the crowd to get behind them.
What did the DJ do play?
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Aviccy was like it was a crime. That was a crime,
because that's the chance to get the punishing all blacks.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Charn't go oh, let's do the defense chart now as well,
like theyre at a basketball game. I don't know, it's
it's a tough it's a tough task.
Speaker 5 (18:13):
How do you change the culture towards people enjoying it?
But you know, back in ancient Roman times at the Colisseum,
they had stratas of people there, so they were like
they didn't want too many elites there. So they have
the elites and then the second level, but then they'd
have just a bunch of lizards because they knew the
lizards would have a good time. So that the back
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and you're only a certain amount of each tier of society,
so you need a bunch of a tear for people
in their twenties that are just wrapping it up like
the zoo.
Speaker 1 (18:43):
Well, maybe that the All Blacks keep losing. The kousers
who actually come to the game just to watch them win.
Speaker 3 (18:50):
Yeah, they'll drop off.
Speaker 5 (18:51):
Yeah, So I think yeah, because the people win, the
people that dress themselves up in the full all Blacks
kit with like the hand that the wooly hat and
the scarf and the jersey, and until you're a couple
and then the and they go around and tell your
shut up and sit down. They'll stop going because it
doesn't gratify them as people.
Speaker 4 (19:12):
Correct, you know, they build the whole personality around the
August winning.
Speaker 5 (19:15):
But the guy that goes there and a speedo and
a scarf, Yes, those people start coming come.
Speaker 1 (19:23):
In now, but they'll they'll have to have to change
because we're not going to win every game. We're going
to struggle to win the Rugby Championship in the next
few years, and we've got to get in getting behind them,
and maybe a way of doing it is maybe losing
those fans.
Speaker 5 (19:33):
This is the chicken you rejected from a superior teinted
October fish. This chicken your head on your head.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
This is the famous chicken head. This is the famous
chicken head.
Speaker 3 (19:43):
It looks disgustingly dirty because it fell off my head
on the Dodgers.
Speaker 1 (19:47):
But yeah, that's one of the most humiliating hats.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
You can wear it.
Speaker 1 (19:52):
Now you get so hammered at October fist. You don't
care walking around looking at this.
Speaker 5 (19:58):
I've got a lot of time for that, like for
people to do this list thing. The drumsticks are tapping
together on the top of his head.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
It's basically you've put your head up the ass of
a cooked chicken.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
Like who thought there was a god everywhere?
Speaker 3 (20:14):
That's great everywhere.
Speaker 1 (20:16):
And we were the biggest suckers there because we were like,
would you like a hat?
Speaker 3 (20:18):
Years? Would you like some more feathers than your hat? Years?
Speaker 1 (20:21):
Anyway, right, we'll take another quick break and we'll be
back with because we need to hold each other because
the black Caps they have shaped the.
Speaker 3 (20:29):
Bed again.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
Over the weekend. Matt black Caps hurt me.
Speaker 5 (20:36):
It was I love you, Gilane, and and I want
to be there for you in this tough time. And
I think this is particularly tough because we took five
wickets and they took all the wickets, Like what was
the difference? Why was it that we could only get
five wickets? Although Darren Mitchell dropped an absolute cierate slip
off a roork like really early on when I tuned in,
and that would have helped if we've got that one, but.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
To helped, But you know that's sad.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
They got a wick and fist over.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
Yeah, we got four more wickets and they's scored six
hundred runs.
Speaker 5 (21:03):
And then they just rip through us with their spinners.
It's like that's an absolute punishing. We couldn't get any
wickets and they seem to be able to get them
very easily. You know, it's not like it's not like
they wheeled in a different wicket or something overnight. You know,
it was the same thing.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
It was. It was tough because we like not not
going to rag on them too much because winning in
Asia is fucking difficult, because that's that's through Laking team.
It was pretty similar to the team that came to
New Zealand last year and we pants them in two
dismatches and then we've gone over there and it's very
hard to win. But saying that that is pretty comprehensive
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and innings in one hundred and fifty runs.
Speaker 5 (21:41):
It's pretty pants down. Yeah, yeah, But do we care
when it's overseas.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
No, they don't care. Yeah, but what it's but with
the World Test Champion thing, it's going to be weird.
Speaker 3 (21:53):
It's just going to We've already won that. We don't
need it again exactly. I agree. So, but we're headed
to India now for the Test.
Speaker 5 (22:01):
So we're looking down the barrel because I think we've
only been them once ever in a test over there,
So we're looking at the barrel of having lost seven
Test matches in a row after these three.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
Right that when booked the Halls Book, The Halls.
Speaker 1 (22:14):
Book are the stockslide of black kept at another thousand.
We're preparing for the worst. It's like preparing for a hurricane.
We've got the sandbags out, we're boarded the windows.
Speaker 5 (22:24):
That we're entering that era that that that you and
me grew up loving cricket when it was in the
tough times. Oh yeah, so we're used to it. There's
there's a whole generation of young people that have never
experienced these times. They they are in for a shock
because they've gone through a great, great time being a
cricket fan.
Speaker 3 (22:42):
That's when you find out you're a real cricket fan.
Speaker 1 (22:43):
That's why the boomers are struggling now with the all
blecks loser.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
They've never seen it.
Speaker 4 (22:47):
No, they've never seen it.
Speaker 3 (22:48):
And this is like you're saying, like.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
The young young cricket fans, they've seen us make two
World Cup finals, I've seen us win a World Test Championship.
Speaker 4 (22:55):
They think we're great.
Speaker 5 (22:56):
Yeah, just ropping through teams at home. Those days might
be over. And but but that's where the SEC is
for you because we can talk around the issue.
Speaker 1 (23:05):
Yep, we can, and we can hold each other. We
can sell you a T shirt Black Supporters support group.
That the best thing about the bat Pep supporters. It's
like when you see someone else in that, you immediately
want to go and hold them.
Speaker 3 (23:16):
Everything's going to be okay.
Speaker 5 (23:18):
Yeah, it's like the Mason's handshake. We see someone else
in a black Cat supporter support group, you just go
up and you give them a big, big man hug.
Speaker 4 (23:25):
Don't just say anything, you don't understand anything, just just
just just hold them tight. Yeah, and then just walk away.
You just walk away and then that's all you need
to do.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
And that's that.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
That and that hug for that person will mean a
lot and you'll get them through the next test.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
Yeah, so you n r L on the weekend as well.
Speaker 1 (23:41):
The finalists have been decided for the Grand Final next Sunday,
which the a SEC are covering on Skysport.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
Nine Panthers fifth, fifth. Yes, that seems insane in the
modern era that something like that could that could happen.
Speaker 1 (23:54):
Yeah, that's something that's why they put in the salary cap.
But that doesn't seem to be work.
Speaker 3 (23:58):
It doesn't seem be working with Panthers, but saying that
they are losing a lot of players next season, including
New Zealand. Yes, so it's a.
Speaker 4 (24:07):
Panthers storm final. Nathan Cleary was good, is he?
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Ah? He's so bloody good.
Speaker 1 (24:13):
I love it when he came onto the pitch and
he looked up to this, you know how the players
they look up kind of they're preparing and his chin
is so messive.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
That's a ridiculous. It's like the profile of it was.
Speaker 5 (24:23):
My girlfriend was saying, how come he's still attractive? Like,
how can you still be attractive for that chin? He
looks like a cartoon character toure of a league player.
Speaker 1 (24:29):
I think front on he looks nice. I always like
to think I look better front one on side on.
I've just got this massive double chin and a pointy nose.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
Well, last year, we were on a plane back from
somewhere when we watched it in the year. Didn't we
watch the grand.
Speaker 5 (24:42):
We watched the final year We're off too, and then
oh somewhere Paris, Yes, Paris.
Speaker 1 (24:47):
But he.
Speaker 5 (24:49):
That moment when Ivan and Nathan are embraced afterwards, I
teared up.
Speaker 4 (24:53):
When you're ten thousand feet up, you're tearing up.
Speaker 3 (24:55):
I teared up. I watched Father and Son just but
he looks well.
Speaker 5 (25:02):
He doesn't look great profile, but he looks good on
his back. There's no injury problems. Yeah, it's going to
be interesting and I hate the Melbourne Storm They're too
annoyingly good.
Speaker 1 (25:11):
But so are the Panthers. It's going to be an
annoying final to watch. Yeah, because I kind of don't
I kind of want the Panthers to win because.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
More Panthers and Storm. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
But yeah, because he's a key with connection then Nathan
Clear he was born and he was born in Harris.
Yeah for sharers is going Nathan Clear, he's got new pass.
Speaker 3 (25:28):
He's news in the past one. Yeah, we've got to
get there's no no doubt. If you don't have any
skin in the game, then it's got to be Panthers.
Yea and his little brothers coming to the Warriors too. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
Yeah, so okay, okay, I'm all in with the Panthers,
with the six Panthers. Yeah, And like I said, we'll
be covering that on Sunday. Last bit of news coming
out Liam Lawson his final Yeah, he's taken over a
big nose.
Speaker 5 (25:49):
I'm worried for him because he's coming in at a
team when everyone's abandoning ship and he's got to the
end of the season to prove himself. Yeah, he's had
six races, it's got six races, and he's great, obviously,
great New Zealander. And it's a great chance and the
chances of getting a seat in Formula one if you're
not a billionnaius Son, it's so minute. It's an incredible
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thing to do. It's the hardest position to get and
so amazing that he's got there. But it's a it's
a challenging team to be a part of.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
Yeah, he's in the.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
Racing red Bulls, which is the feed into Red Bull Racing,
which is the other one, which is the Maxi strap
On one. But he's taking over big nose Daniel Ricardo,
who's arguably the most popular one driver in America, especially
after the Drive to Survive because he's such a smiling,
happy chairpy so Liam Lawson has copped so many strays
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on social media. It wasn't up to him. The team
decided that Riccardo's gone and he's in, and he's cop
so much abuse from Daniel Riccardo fans who obviously like
dudes with big noses.
Speaker 4 (26:56):
Who doesn't, So the poor guy, he's like got chance.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
Now he's getting absolutely railed on by fans.
Speaker 5 (27:03):
And and and a team with a lot of people
are been in his ship. Yeap and so, but I
reckon give him taste of ki We Yeah, I think
I reckon o. Can he just tested it in some
ways that might be an advantage. Yeah, he's got because
you just have to do.
Speaker 3 (27:19):
He's going to go for it. You just go for it.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
I think worst case scenario, Okay, worst case scenario gets
a seat next year in that the racing Red Bulls,
which is that sonoda second tier one. Best case scenario,
he does fucking awesome in the next six races, and
they dropped Checko Sugio Pirez from the Red Bull Racing
team and he goes in there and becomes the co
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driver of Maxis strap On.
Speaker 3 (27:43):
That would that be the ideal? Yeah? That would that
would be amazing. Six races to six glory. Yeah, no, no.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Pressure, just put it all out there. Fuck yeah, Well,
good on, Good on, Liam Lawson. We will replay the
interview we did with them actually when we asked them
the twenty two and too and unfortunately we asked him
a question around who's got the biggest downstairs out of
all the principles?
Speaker 3 (28:06):
How was unfortunate that you asked that? Yeah, well, it's
unfortunately premeditated, but unfortunate it was.
Speaker 1 (28:10):
Unfortunately because he said, Gunta Steiner, what's some to say?
This guy, the good looking guy looks like Arnold Schwarzenegger
him or Christian Horner. Who's got the biggest downstairs and
he had I've got to say Christian Horner. But then
the next day came out all of the kind of
sexual misconduct allegations about Christian Corner.
Speaker 3 (28:31):
Well, Horner is a difficult name to behave with.
Speaker 1 (28:34):
It is, he's a difficult hole to keep in the
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Speaker 3 (28:57):
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Speaker 5 (29:00):
If you and as I said before, if you want
to read the Ultimate score Settler, than Matt Heeath dot
substack dot com. I really lane to g Lane in
that one. But now I'm seeing you again. I'm not
angry anymore like I see you again.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
It's like you're I like that you wrote this while
we're away, like mother.
Speaker 5 (29:16):
Focause my social media has been lit up and I
was dropped. I was dropped from the Paris trip. Like
there was three of you.
Speaker 3 (29:25):
We were all in Paris together and I was dropped.
Speaker 5 (29:27):
And your place with this new fancy guy looks amazing
to say to Ludah Housen, and he's more fun than me.
Speaker 3 (29:32):
It was I was dropped for a better man. That's
what hurt Jay Wells Well, I would.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
Say next year, Matt, but you're fucking off to ZB.
Speaker 3 (29:41):
So I'm staying with the ACC that. Yeah, it's true.
Speaker 5 (29:43):
Yeah, I'm going to be more ACC focused now because
I'm going to be hanging out to hang out with
you guys.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
How's that going? And my negotiations with ZB, I said,
I'm not giving up the ACC.
Speaker 1 (29:52):
You're going to say, like I'm I'm going to the
Singapore Grand Premix year.
Speaker 5 (29:55):
Yeah, bloody am, I am, I am, and I were
laid and I'm going to do the full October fiest
over there. Try and I'll bring a marquee and I'll
try and relive the times that I've missed.
Speaker 1 (30:07):
Okay, we'll get on there and you can listen to
that school see the otherwise I've seen tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
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