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chat about when it comes to approving our health. You know,
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most of us know what we should be doing, you know,
eating better, moving, you know, moving more, sleeping well, but
the motivation thing is a big It's a big question
for everyone. And often you know, you see people who
were saying, oh, you know, I looked at myself in
the mirror, and I saw this train wreck of a person,
and I just and they had this lofty goal, and
I reckon. For a lot of us, you sort of think,
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do I really have to have conquering the world as
my motivation? Are there subtle forms of motivation that are
just as effective or do you need to have that?
Do you need to have that big goal? And what
sort of motivation should we avoid to give us the
best chance of staying on track? Or is it different
for everyone? I mean, for someone a young guy in
his mid twenties, he might want to look like Arnold
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Swarzenegger used to look like. Oh, I can't think of
a modern equivalent. There's probably other guys where I should
be mentioning I'm showing my age. But I mean, for
a young guy, it might be just like, I want
to look amazing. I want to look like that guy
I saw running along Tommicky Drive with his shirt off, well,
flashing it off. I almost felt like saying, carver it up.
But anyway, does that work? Or does the vanity does
the mirror what you see in the moodor does that
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ever work? Or is it the fact I just feel
dreadful and so we're gonna have a chat about that
what got you on the couch, And if you're searching
for some inspiration, give us a call as well on
eight hundred eighty ten eighty. But also on the other hand,
and this is all tied and together. You know, we
know that improving your physical health comes with the bonus
of improving your mental health. But I think this is
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sort of a teaser into where we're going to get
to with us. But how important is mental health in
getting on top of your physical health, which comes first
as a chicken in the egg? Or is it just
depending on your own journey? So we want to know
your journey or your questions and joining us. Look, he
is what is a household name? He's formally I wonder
if he still loves this name, the butter bean. He's
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Dave Latally. Anyway, he's with us for the Health Hub. Dave, Hello,
thanks for having me. How you earn ye, not too bad?
Speaker 4 (02:49):
You look?
Speaker 3 (02:50):
You look really good man. I didn't realize those arms
are looking impressive. How I got I got it? What
you call a good singlet? Build look good in a singlet?
Have you actually have you? Do you notice? I do
almost laugh when I see. I saw some guys going
for a run and they literally running anatomy charts. And
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of course they're not They've got nothing on. They've just
got shorts and they're going along humbly. But I know
they're going, look at me, I am awesome.
Speaker 4 (03:21):
Look if I look like that on any hints of
it getting hot, the shirt would be off. You See.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
The problem is I reckon. Sometimes you can, actually, I
think sometimes you can look in the mirror and go, oh,
look all right, and then you see somebody's taken a
photo and you go, oh, my god, that wasn't good.
Does vanity work as a motivation.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
I definitely think it can. But you know whether or
not it's a long lasting enough motivation to keep you
disciplined to keep it going, yeah, for it to be sustainable.
But whatever works, you know, it's literally whatever works for
you to get you up out of that couch.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
How long have you been doing your thing with community
fitness and health and helping people who want to improve
their everything there overall health, really, haven't you?
Speaker 4 (04:08):
Yeah? So we started in twenty fourteen out of my
own journey, and you know, started at one Tree Hill
and went for walk up that hill and come back
down to get everyone else. So that's that's literally how
it started, going for a walk?
Speaker 3 (04:20):
What what was it?
Speaker 4 (04:21):
I mean?
Speaker 3 (04:22):
And look, people, we all know a bit about you journey,
but then again people think they sort of know, but
then the people who don't know anything really, But I mean,
what was it that drove it for you? I mean,
you were you were a public personality already, weren't you went?
Speaker 4 (04:35):
Yeah, So in twenty and fourteen, I weighed two hundred
and ten kilos and I'd lost everything. But you know,
I always think I was in bad shape physically, but
worse mentally emotionally. You know, I've lost my through my
own actions. I was an idiot and lost my family
lost you know, I had not one cent living at
my sister's house, and I bet I couldn't fed. I
was staring at the roof thinging, oh man, how did
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I get here? How did I stuff things up so badly?
And that's how it started. I got into boxing, and
I guess that's how I got a little bit of
a following through fighting before Joseph Parker tell.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Us about that walk up One Tree Hill and what
followed from there, because that was that was one step.
That's a walk upper hill, mind you you know, it's
it's a bit of exercise that tell us about that.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
Yeah, well, you know I used to play league back
in the day and we used to do a lot
of pre season training there. So I was like, I wasn't.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
Man.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
When I think about it, it's like yesterday, I just
I didn't want to be here. You know. I think of,
you know, my son when when I when I left,
my son looked at me like he clicked that might
be the last time he'd see me, and that every
time I closed my eyes, his eyes would be burning.
That look would just be burning in my mind, crying,
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and I just was it was. It was hard. I
had to silence the voice telling me to kill myself.
And how I did it was I went for a
walk at Montree Hill. While I was walking, I was
not thinking about how ship things were sorry as well,
you know, and you know I was just thinking, literally,
this is a steep hill. It's a lot harder than
what I remembered. But my brain had a chance to
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stop thinking and that's what it needed. So you know,
I had to keep myself busy because I'll say this
to our crew, you know, I was. It was not
the exercise. It was driving home from the exercise that
was dangerous for me because I think about driving into
a pole. Like that's how down I was. You were,
So I just would exercise. Well, I had to stay
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busy just to keep my mind occupied.
Speaker 3 (06:36):
So because it's funny, I've got to I've actually have
a might share this.
Speaker 5 (06:40):
SI.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
I've got a caller who he won't mind telling us
because he told the whole country at about three o'clock
in the morning or four o'clock in the morning. His
name's Hennade. I don't know if he knows he actually
but he it's interesting people's motivation. And Hennah, as a
talkback caller, comes on off a long run up. You know,
he had some pretty hot He's got some pretty hot views.
And one day I just said, you know, what are
you doing? And he goes up a walk up one
of the among us every morning, and I was pretty emotional.
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Makes me thinking of it because it was a pretty
intense conversation. But he said, I said, why do you
do that? And he said, and this is about what
his motivation is. But he said that his son had
died about a year or two before and he was
overweight and unhealthy. And he does it because he says
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that the least I can do for a memory of
my son is to look after myself. And so every
morning he gets up and he's got a few health
issues and he goes up for a walk, up one
of the mangers and down like that. And I can
tell you the feedback that we got from just it's
an amazing community talk about radio in that respect, the
way people lit up about just him sharing that story.
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But that's a big goal. I mean, that's a big motivation,
isn't it. I mean, and people would people would think
with you because you're such a public figure and you've
had such a positive impact on people's lives. But keeping
the motivation for you, it's an everyday thing, isn't it.
Speaker 4 (08:03):
Yeah, it's hard. Yeah, you know, we've been going for
a long time, and you know it was it was
at the start, it was I wanted my children back,
you know, and I do anything to get that. To
do that, I had to be better. I had to
work on myself and be a person.
Speaker 6 (08:19):
You know.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
I have my children back now and a new son,
new wife. But now it's the hard thing is let's
keep it all going, you know, And how do you
motivate the motivator? You know, it's a it's a hard one.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Does that put a bit of pressure on you? I mean,
do you put a pressure on yourself for that? Because
you're like, oh my god, all these people will look
to me because I'm the guy who's put some of
these things in place.
Speaker 4 (08:41):
I'm under extreme pressure. It's it's a meanse and it's
the climate you know that we're in at the moment. Economically,
it's a tough time in the charity space. Personally. You know,
I could prop my charity up before, it's it's tougher
for me to do that now. So it's it's just tough.
And this is the first year I've ever wondered if
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I could keep going yep, in the.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
And in what way do you want to pass the
bats on? Or you just I mean, what's share as
much or little as you want?
Speaker 4 (09:12):
Yeah, just in the work that we're doing. You know,
we have to raise so much money to keep it
all going. You know, when you think you've got leases,
like one is one hundred and fifty five thousand a year,
the other's ninety odd thousand a year. You've got the kitchen,
you've got the food bank. There's just you know, but
these are things I often wish back in the old
days when we started, I was just literally helping my
friends outside, helping people in the Auckland Museum up the
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road here, like walking up Liverpool Street. There was no
there was no stress, there's no leases, there was no
wages that I had to come up with. But you know,
we've we've created this juggernaut of an organization. It takes
so much, but what what keeps me going is when
I look at people and their lives are better because
we exist. You know when we had our Christmas party
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yesterday with BBM and seeing you know, people from farm
to day come up, come down, took it all come up.
You know we have port or just just the impact
and you know people that are that are thriving now
because of our group. You know, that's what keeps me going.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
You've inadvertently broad in a topic of conversation about Christmas
because I imagine it wouldn't be quite your usual knees
up sort of for that butter bean sort of Christmas party.
Speaker 4 (10:22):
Wi't it the one year we allow KFC. Now we
don't have any fuzzy drinks or stuff like that. But
we relax and we enjoy it because that's what it's about.
You know, life is about enjoying these things with your
friends and your family and treating yourself. You just can't
do it every day, that's all.
Speaker 6 (10:41):
Is that.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
You know, you're talking about walking with your mates up
Liverpool Street.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
Liverpool Streets steeper street in Auckland, is it? It's a
good street.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
You're on Baldwin Street and Dunedin by the way, No,
I'd love to do that one day. They reckon that's
the steepest in the world. But I think somewhere in
South America's rivaling that one. But anyway, let's not let's
not get distracted. Is that the key to motivation in
a way?
Speaker 6 (11:02):
Though?
Speaker 3 (11:02):
You those simpler times when you're just like, look, you
know what, I'm just gonna put my feet on the
floor and I'm going to walk up that hell and back.
That's enough for today. But what I mean, have you
found that and you'll see this with all the people
who can participated in your fitness programs, is it the
really simple little motivations that work? What does it need
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to be the big, profound ones like my caller Henadi
was sharing.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
Yeah, you have multiple of these different we call them
our Why you know you can multiple you have you
have to have. You can have small some mornings that's
you're waking up and you don't like got to think
real deep and meaningful. You know, it can be just
manified if I if I get to the gym, I
can have a real nice coffee, a real nice porode
after that. Sometimes that's enough to get you there. But
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when you need that real deep down burning one like
Canada Head is when you really don't want to and
life's just on top of you, you know, and you
feel like giving up. You know, that's when you need
a real deep down burning one that that can get
you through these toughs. Like you know, when I when
I was going through and boxing constant haters, people hated
the character I was playing. They thought it was really me.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
You know.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
The worst message I ever got was I'm going to
send you some rope to hang your family. Oh my god.
So I was getting bombarded with hate while I was
now living on a mattress from the floor and a
sleepout at a community house. You know, But what I
would think of I'd close my eyes and think of
being at the airport with my arms out waiting for
my children, and then that the feeling I had when
I'd embrace them.
Speaker 3 (12:30):
I think it also depends where people are coming from,
isn't it. So there are some people whose habits on.
There are some people who just they just keep fit
and it seems to be easy for them. I'm always
curious to know what, you know, what motivates people to
just be so disciplined all the time. I'm like, oh,
but I guess that's the difference between having the motivation
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and having a habit.
Speaker 4 (12:53):
That's the goal is motivation gets you started. You've got
to be disciplined to keep going. And it's just bit
by bet it's just the way you live some you know,
not every day is going to be perfect. But you know,
I spoke to someone the other day, a lady called
Loretta Hog. She's really great from down the mountain. She said,
you know, sometimes people want to want to have a
New Year's resolution, I'm going to run five k's every
morning at five thirty in the morning. But the best
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thing to do is just get used to waking up
at five thirty. First, Yeah, what I mean, just start
small like that and then start going for a walk,
building your way up to it so so that way
you're able to sustain it. It's and it's you know,
it's not just going to phase out.
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Because I've look, I've just stopped going to the gym
because ah, look I wasn't enjoying it. But my motivation
has always been and I'm no, you know, no paragona
virtue on this stuff. But when I've known that I've
need to get fit, all I tell myself is because
the easiest thing is to get your shoes on and
get out the door. And as soon as I'm out
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the door, that's the job done. If I think of
the hardest part of the walk, all the run and
the bit where I'm heaving and feeling, oh this is unpleasant,
that's the thing that's always put me off it. So
all I all I used to do is think, tim
you will feel better and shoes on. It's literally all
like almost like an automatic thing. Just get your shoes
on and get out the door. And it's probably a
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bit like that with people who are doing group fitness.
Just turn up and go see your mates. By the way,
you're going to be doing a few push ups or
something and don't think about that now, you know what
I mean.
Speaker 4 (14:21):
It's two hundred percent and you know you're winning when
you start enjoying that pain. Yes, this's what we're here for.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Yeah, possibly we want to know your stories about and
motivation as well, and give us a call it because
we are heading for that time of the year where
you might be looking back and going, oh, you know
what I've it's been a bit of a stressful year
the economy and stuff, and maybe I haven't been looking
after myself and you're looking for a bit of a motivation.
But also we'd love to know your journey and quit
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your journey on this and what worked for you. What
do you reckon is the motivation that is more likely
to succeed because there be people listening to this who
will be thinking, you know, I'm thinking about it, but
I haven't worked out what my wire is, what my
motivation is. If you want to share your story or
or seek some advice, I'm sure Dave's happy to help.
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Dave Lttelly is my guest. This is the Health Hub.
The number is eight hundred eighty ten eighty or he
can drop me a text and we'll read that out
as well. But well, let's let's take a moment. We'll
be back and I think we'll actually ask Lee to
hold on till after the break, if that's all right, Yeah, Lee,
just stick around. We'll be back in just a moment.
Your calls. Jingle bells, jingle bells, jingle.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
All the way.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Oh, what fun it is to ride in a one
horse hope and slave.
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Jingle bells, jingle bells, jingle all the way.
Speaker 3 (15:45):
Oh, what fun it is to ride in a one
horse hope and slat. Oh, we are rocking the music today,
Actually I have to I can let you know that
the music today for this hour has been chosen by
Dave Letelly's son Brook, who's doing great job. A little
bit of old old blue ice with a bit of
jingle bells there.
Speaker 4 (16:00):
I think he was.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
I'm not sure if he was trying to impress me
or the whole audience or whatever, but well done, Brook, Cool, Dave,
Dave Ltelly's with us. We're talking about motivations that work,
and you know, there's a whole question about mental health
and how you need to get on top of that
as part of it. Before after I don't know, but
we're digging into that as well. And of course Dave Lttelly,
he's the founder of Butterbean Motivation. And while I before
we go to our callers, Dave hasn't asked me this,
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but I know it's a constant fundraising challenge. If people
do want to help with with what you're doing, where
can they actually go to contribute to the cause, Dave.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
Yeah, just go to dub dub dub dot the BBM
program dot com and you'll see a donate button.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Excellent, that'll be It'll be that easy. Okay, right, let's
go to Lee.
Speaker 6 (16:43):
Hello, Oh I Tim, I thought it was you singing.
Speaker 3 (16:47):
Actually, ah, Lee, I do have blue eyes.
Speaker 6 (16:59):
On the call. I thought, I hope I'm on the
right topic. That's right. When you wait and you're hesitant
and you're thinking, oh, should I make the call?
Speaker 7 (17:12):
Should I not?
Speaker 4 (17:13):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (17:14):
So just a day I did a little bit, and
I do say a little bit of volunteering at kennethru Hospital.
I walked into a room where I saw a big
man lying on the bed and I could see whenever
he moved off the bed he would have to be harnessed.
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And kind of you know pulled over. He was so big.
But anyway, I went in, introduced myself and I sat
down next to him. I said, hey, I'm a volunteer.
My name's Leeve. I couldn't ask him why he was
in there, and anyway, he started to check to me
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just a little bit because he was in a bad way,
you know, respiratory or weaned and all sorts of issues.
And then I glanced start on his wall where obviously
family members have come in. Now there was a picture
and I'm hoping that it was him. Did you ever
hear of being la in the POI ruined to walk
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up Colonial Knob, ring it to he for his house.
Speaker 3 (18:28):
So did he start? Did he start to he managed
to get it to start addressing his health challenges?
Speaker 6 (18:34):
Did he?
Speaker 3 (18:36):
Yes?
Speaker 6 (18:36):
And And anyway, when I was sitting with him, I
said to see you're in the photo. See and he
started to talk about how we started this walk up
Colonial Knob and Potty Rua, which is a beautiful walk
by the way because of his house. But Remice saw
him his health was not so good. So I said
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to him, well, are you proud of your achievements and stuff?
And I won't go in because we did get a
little bit personal.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
Fair enough, How's what's happened with him since then? That
you mess.
Speaker 6 (19:14):
Thank you, Dave, because you want I want to know,
Oh you.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
Want to know?
Speaker 6 (19:21):
Do you?
Speaker 3 (19:21):
I thought you were about to tell us that he's okay, Okay,
well we'll see.
Speaker 6 (19:25):
Brewin knows his story because I left volunteering and tenor
perof for my own issues did stick in my mind, So.
Speaker 3 (19:37):
Okay, I thought you were going to share with us
that something had actually happened. But yeah, anyway, a lot
of people can text or anything. I mean, I'm not
sure what to add to to Lee's inquiry there, Dave, but.
Speaker 4 (19:47):
We are imported to us, so hopefully he's part of
our from the Couch program. Now I'll ask I'll ask
our team as well, how many people and you're from
the Couch program by the way, we're in you know,
we run all four programs in Auckland, Monaco, so it's
eight in total. And we've got fun today as well,
so it's it's hundreds every year go through that.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
What's the most common story you hear as to why
people turn up? It's because they just want to meet Dave.
Speaker 4 (20:13):
And you know, fair enough, you know, we have lots
of people that are now mentors, you know, that are
inspiring on their own. So you know you've got Nick
who's a mentor that they see a lot of him
on social media. This guy lost about one hundred and
ten kilos from his wheelchair with one leg at BBM
from the couch and so people come because of all
these different people that they can relate to. Yeh, it's
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not just me that I actually pulled back a lot
because the system would say to me, we can never
scale this because there's only one day. So I stopped
taking all the boot camps and all my team take it.
Speaker 3 (20:47):
Is that a hard thing to do to sort of
or easy because to be like you would have been busy?
Speaker 4 (20:52):
You know, it was good because it showed that that
was wrong because we can scale what we do because
just what we teach the environment we create.
Speaker 3 (21:00):
Is that also important for the motivation that I mean,
it's the company you keep as well. It's got to
be important if you're keeping the wrong company of people
who are not looking out for themselves, how important is
that as motivation? Sometimes you literally have to change the company.
Speaker 4 (21:12):
On the Pella three of BBM and surround yourself with
good positive people. You know, if you surround yourself with
five idiots, what does that make you? You're you're the
sixth you know, so some people think it makes them
the smart one. So you know, if you're hanging around
people who are eating crap and drinking crap every day
and doing drugs and all these things, it makes it
hard to stay on the path, you know, So you
got to really choose your company wisely.
Speaker 3 (21:33):
Right, let's take some more calls. So hello, oh higher,
Hi sir.
Speaker 5 (21:39):
I you it's about time your name Tom came back
on talk bick.
Speaker 4 (21:46):
This is from my day talkback show. I used to
have a talk back show on another station. Did you.
Speaker 5 (21:53):
I'm still a bit cripply and my voice, but you well,
I'm still comforting and disturbed and disturbing the comfortable and
really beervated. Ultimately, it does come down to self discipline.
I think for me, my past experiences, which are pretty shocking,
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had the biggest infect on making me get off me
us and do something. You know, I haven't stopped since.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
Yeah, once hit that rock bottom. That's a sometimes people
just got to bottom.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
Is what changes have you did you make it? Have
you made over the course of your life.
Speaker 5 (22:35):
So to get on top of that, well, I started
out under teenage years, you know long they used to
have old bitches and sheds. I used to break into
those and sleep. And then when I was about six,
because we are was was unsatisfactory and I started sleeping
out in town full time from about ten. I was
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drinking alcoholically from about ten and I kept it up
for years. But the funny thing is as I got
when I got a job, I became self employed, and
instead of drinking Purple Lady and our Pale Gold, I
was drinking bloody brandy and rum and whisky instead. But
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I hit a rock bottom and it was really really bad.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
So what made you recognize that though?
Speaker 4 (23:29):
So what was it?
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Was it just you something clicked in your brain or what?
Speaker 6 (23:34):
Well?
Speaker 5 (23:34):
No, I was vomiting up blood clots and I could
hardly move and I was covered in these. I haven't
even got scars, but abscess is the size of sixpences
and they didn't start to heal until six months. Completely sober,
I've been sober forty one years. But I used to
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go to meetings and have to soak my bloody clothes
off in the bath that's how bad it was. But
my instincts, I think some of us have a good survival.
Some don't. But I seem to have a good survival.
And I see what happened with other people because sometimes
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they can identify and they've had similar issues, you know.
Plus I went through all that pilavora of abuse and
as a state ward in their homes, and I've been
through a lot, and I'm so grateful I've had all
those bad experiences because it's the most I've learned. You know,
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I don't have a formal education or anything, but I've
learned the most out of the worst experiences.
Speaker 6 (24:49):
That's just me.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
So is that actually when it comes to is it
important to you know, because some people like to forget
all the bad things that have happened, whereas you're saying,
it's almost a reminder of where you've come from. That
that's part of who you. I don't know, Dave.
Speaker 4 (25:03):
I mean I always think, you know, greatness comes from
the struggle, it's.
Speaker 5 (25:07):
Too absolutely yeah. I mean when you had to show
I lined up, was so much of what you said
because that's what I believe too. Absolutely too.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
I'm almost a bit embarrassed, so because we've been talking
for over ten years on talk Back now, and I
think that's the first time you've told me about back
going back as far as sex.
Speaker 4 (25:26):
I know you will have you.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
I have shared those stories with Bruce or with other
other hosts of mine, but I didn't realize that that
that your some of your struggles went back that so
many years.
Speaker 5 (25:35):
You're you're busy snipping off my here.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
Well, you know, I reckon you. Your you're you sometimes,
you know that's your goal. Let's see if we can
wind them up, get them to.
Speaker 4 (25:47):
Hang up on it.
Speaker 5 (25:52):
I've got some cherries stared at the shop today.
Speaker 3 (25:56):
Oh well, that's that time of year, isn't it? Christmas?
Christmas time the cherries?
Speaker 1 (26:01):
Right?
Speaker 4 (26:01):
Tell you what?
Speaker 3 (26:02):
We might take a quick break and we're going to
continue having a chat with Dave La Telly about motivation
and what works. Of course, the reason motivations and Dave's
a good man for it is because his program is
Butterbean Motivation. Is that the name of the organization or the.
Speaker 4 (26:17):
Yeah, it's funny because I needed I needed it when
I was boxing. I needed like a company to invoice
doko I had. Luckily, I called it BBB motivation. And
then when we were on Facebook, we started as a
Facebook group and it was I was Brown Butterbean, so
I called myself BBM.
Speaker 3 (26:36):
Motivation. Also, by the way, you were talking about the
people who lead the fitness at that you've set up.
Now you've stepped back, I mean in a way, do
you sometimes think that it can be a demotivating thing
when people I mean, it obviously works for the people
who attend, you know, your fitness class and stuff that
they relate to the people who are taking the classes,
(26:56):
because sometimes you sort of do you look up at
the anatomy charts on the things. I'm a long way
from that.
Speaker 4 (27:03):
Where it's really important with us. You've got to have
people at all different stages of their journey so that
the people just starting can see I can get there,
you know, I can get to that point where that
person is. Sometimes if you look in at someone that's
already like at a you know, lost one hundred and
fifty kilos and doing burpies upper hill, they might not
be able to see themselves doing that, you know. Yeah,
(27:24):
But if you have someone that's just a little bit
ahead of them, it's helping it. It definitely makes a
big difference.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
Okay, we are going to take a moment. We'll be
back in just a moment. We love your cause as well.
If you want to share your story and or or
you want to have a chat with Dave and see
if he can provide some inspiration for you, although he
might be like, oh God, but anyway, we'll continue the
conversation in just a moment. It is twenty two minutes
to five, Yes, news talks. He'd be or this is
the health UBM. I guess Dave Ltelly, He's well, he's
(27:50):
lots of things. Former boxer, former rugby league player, founder
of Butterbean Motivation, Butterbean Motivation. I'm sorry I didn't read
the next line. There was say founder of butterbean. He
was known as the butterbean, of course, which is where
the name come from. Taking your cause about motivation, Bill, Hello,
go to Dave.
Speaker 7 (28:06):
I'm a great longtime fan of yours, and I just
want to I want to refer back to a point
you made earlier about losing a lot of weight when
you did Okay, it's sort of that is very important.
My background is that I was in health department researcher,
(28:29):
an interviewer, and this sort of thing. I've worked in presence,
psychiatric hospitals, institutions rich and poor, at Chatham Islands, everywhere,
and before that, I've been a visitor to asylums and prisons.
I I ring the Nuts Club about every four years
and give them stories that will blow their socks off,
(28:50):
you know, and you know I get on well with them, etc.
Speaker 4 (28:53):
And so on.
Speaker 7 (28:54):
But I just want to say to you that, yeah,
losing weight is so important now among of people, hundreds
there were people I interviewed, et cetera intimately and so on.
Most of them told me that their weight was the
cause of lack of self esteem, depression, all these sorts
(29:17):
of things. Now I've been there, done that myself. When
they're said, they've got to look at something to do.
And if you're at home, for instance, you near the kitchen,
you grab something and suddenly you put on weight. The
country seems to do the wrong thing. It spends billions
on trying to get people to lose weight rather than
stop people putting on weight, and to get people not
(29:41):
to put on weight. Well, you've got to look at
the country. You've got to make a happier place and
so on. You've got to eradicate the gap between rich
and poor. You've got to put people in houses, do
all sorts of things, et cetera, and so on. But
that point about you're losing the weight, yeh. I interviewed
people one hundred and forty hundred and sixty so on,
(30:05):
and they spoke to me because I was an older
and gave time this sort of thing. I actually, way
back in sixty six and Wellington, I climbed a large
building and saved guy's life and put in the paper
for that. But when I was researching and Willington and
a few years Aback, I had four people told me
(30:28):
at different times later that I saved their lives by
immediately putting on them onto a psychologist.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
Oh all sorting out the mental health thing first, sitting
out the mental health thing first to help them sort
out their physical health.
Speaker 7 (30:42):
And getting that sorted out, etc. And people told me,
and I won't say what they told me, but women
in particular in their sixties, seventies, eighties told me things
you wouldn't have believed happened in the past. And I
never even told their doctors. Over the years when they
call for sort of inquiries and things on me health
(31:05):
and such like. They always call the wrong people that
I've been before, the commerce commissions and things. They hit
my phone. Never given me a ring about true stories
that go on and things like that. So I'd love
to see Dave when I come to Auckland next, which
might be a while.
Speaker 3 (31:21):
But yeah, I think it's about isn't it about twenty
years since you've been in Auckland?
Speaker 7 (31:25):
Bill, eighty nine years since?
Speaker 4 (31:30):
Reach out to me whenever, reach out to me whenever
you want.
Speaker 7 (31:33):
Career anyway in terms of a friend of mine. So
we'll catch up later, davefinite reach out.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
When you're up a bell.
Speaker 3 (31:40):
Yeah, thanks, Bill, I mean when I say friends, I
haven't met Bill. He's but he's a regular caller and
valued caller to my show when we're doing talk about
But anyway, thanks for your call, Bill, Bill. Did I
say sorry? I said, I might have said Phil, but
that's because we're talking to Phil.
Speaker 4 (31:56):
Now. Gooday?
Speaker 3 (31:56):
Phil? How are you going?
Speaker 8 (31:59):
Thinks?
Speaker 4 (32:00):
Some get eight? How are you good? Good?
Speaker 3 (32:02):
What would you like to share with with Dave and me?
Speaker 9 (32:05):
And well, well, I'll just say because there's a few
things I was just listening to that call because I
and yeah, one thing I think, like the fellow touched
on there and Get as well as Dave and how
are useful thing was that you, yeah, before you can
actually do the physical stuff and the motivation to you know,
(32:26):
of getting to do the physical things like gym work
and stuff like that, you've got to fix the mental
thing first, you know. And I think that was a
great point before you can even look at improving your
life to the physical thing. But it will, it will,
But I just thought that was a great point. But
I also I wandered to say, because I'm I've gone
through a journey myself the last five years with depression
(32:49):
and mental health issues and stuff like that, and I've
had all the things that Dave has talked about as
well when he was struggling about you know, you just
didn't want to be You don't want to be here.
You don't want to get out of bere because you
don't want to be here. So I don't look you know,
you don't. You don't look after yourself because you don't
care about yourself. So your personal hygien it just maintaining
(33:12):
your normal life like people do that you just don't.
That goes out the window. I don't know what rock
bottom is yet because I haven't hit rock bottom because
basically a psychologist as well, I'm lucky enough to help me.
But that's about going to come to an end after Christmas.
But he said we'll still keep in touch on very fortunate.
(33:33):
But one of the things he said is, like I say,
I haven't hit the rock bottom is because I'm quite
comfortable even though I kind of very dysfunctional and I
don't really function at the moment well as a human being.
So I've got my own house and I've got money
in the bank, so I can just.
Speaker 5 (33:48):
Sort of.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
One of the things that you keep you to help
making better decisions.
Speaker 9 (33:54):
Well, at the moment, I'm trying to things that happen
me make better decisions. That when I lay off the drink,
when I cut back off to not completely give it up,
but I when I cut back on it, because I
do like drink, and that's one of the reasons why,
you know, I had struggled with it keeping it in moderation,
but definitely when I cut it back, so I wake
(34:15):
up the next morning and I'm not you know, I
still can't heal all the alcohol in the system, and
I just feelt clear, and you know, and because once
weirs off, you start to get down. But I wanted
to say too because just before also, like just a
quick couple of things, I had this thought the other
day too, because I had trouble getting out of bed
in the morning. And one of the thoughts that I
had just the last recently was well, even if I
(34:39):
think I've got nothing to do today, I'm just going
to listen to the talk back all day, sit in
my house and have my cough. Nothing's doing, no motivation.
Even if I just think I'm going to get out
of bed at a certain time and that's the big achievement.
Even if I just get out of bed at that
wire m I've achieved it. So that's one thing I
agree with. Like Dave said a bit, you might think.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
Yeah, I have to move on, but thanks for your
corel mate, But I think you know, sitting yourself achievable tasks.
It sounds silly, doesn't it, just saying It's like I
was saying, just keep my shoes on and get out
the door. But then one thing leads to another. I guess, bye, bet,
by bet, it's all it is. Sorry, I haven't heard
much from you with people sharing their stories. Hey, what
what are some of the examples just before you go
(35:20):
to the break of you know when you will have
seen plenty of people fall off the wagon they've started
when they turn up to the butter being motivation sort
of courses and things. But what are the what are
some of the common things that happen and how do
you get how these people turn it around? Because great,
you've turned up six months later?
Speaker 4 (35:37):
You know, yes, I mean if you think we're coming
into now the New Year's resolution revolution, you know, and
people start and they start, you know, hard and fast.
Everything's hashtag healthy living, you know, eating like they got
to live in nutritionous training like they're a professional trainer,
professional athlete. But they can't maintain it. They fall off.
(35:58):
The thing that the cycle that we see is people
will start fall off. They might when they might lose
five kilos, they fall off, they put on seven. Then
they feel bad again and they'll start again. They might
lose five kilos, so they're always only losing the flame
five kilos, but each time they fall off, they're putting
on more. So that the trick is when you fall off,
don't ever think it. Don't beat yourself up, get yourself
up and go again.
Speaker 3 (36:18):
Yeah, just keep.
Speaker 4 (36:19):
That's what he's perfect.
Speaker 3 (36:20):
Let's like get off the canvas.
Speaker 4 (36:22):
We all fall down. Yeah, we all have bad days,
we all have big max when we shouldn't have. The
thing is, just get up and going down.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
And don't watch too me of those Marvel movies because
those guys got a team of trainers and steroids and all.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
The thing is, when you're watching on social media and
things you're on, you're only seeing a small snippet. You're
only seeing a highlight of what's going on, you know.
So don't compare yourself to these people that you might
follow that you think they've got it all in place,
because a lot of the times they don't.
Speaker 3 (36:49):
Because they're not necessarily sharing their worst days either. Hey,
we're going to be back in just a moment. We'll
see if we can squeeze another call before we're at
Got time flies, doesn't it. It's ten to five, News
Talks said, be back in the month, News Talk said, be.
We're talking with David Telly. Not for much longer actually,
because times fine. We're going to take one more called Jerry.
Speaker 8 (37:04):
Hello, good evening, God bless butter Bean. I heard your
story about the meat robbery at your place, and I
hope that was all resolved and maybe there was some recompense.
But secondly, I bought a packet of planting seeds which
were called butter bean seeds, and but then I turned
(37:28):
the back over and they were called Geronimo seeds. Is
butter bean another name for geronimo?
Speaker 3 (37:36):
That was not what I thought you were gonna be.
Speaker 4 (37:38):
I was named after an American boxer called butter Bean,
who was quite a large white guy. When I started,
I was quite a large brown guy. So they called
me the brown butter Bean. That's that's how I got
the name. And I was at a podcast last week
actually and called Folk with Susie and they made me
some butter bean TIChE Susanne, Paul, Thanks Jerry.
Speaker 3 (38:02):
Was was it any good?
Speaker 4 (38:03):
Butter beant time eating butter beans? And that'll be the
last time.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
Hi, Tim and Dave. Here's a quick Dave story that
highlights how big as hard as for helping others and
his boxing days. When he's getting back on his slip speed,
he used to drive around with his cow fuel gauge
always on empty. One down his way to training. He
was at a gas station with his last twenty bucks.
While he was there, he got talking to a young
mum with a baby and ended up giving the money
to her for food for her and a baby. He
made it onto training and then said he hoped he
had enough fuel left to make it home. He also
(38:30):
made all his boot camps free to allow others the
opportunities to get healthier at a time when he had
nothing and could have done something with his money, could
have done with some money from his very popular boot
camp to put food on his table. He absolutely deserves
everyone's support to keep his programs going. The man is
a saint. That's from Alex.
Speaker 4 (38:46):
It's nice. Thank you so much, Alex. Yeah, man, it's
been a roller coaster journey, and yeah, it's you know.
I always just think if you can help, you should,
you know, And that there's been times like you know
where you like with that moment that they needed a
lot more than me.
Speaker 3 (39:04):
It's often found that people who are the most generous
so from the people who have the least to give. Actually,
I don't know. I don't want to get all virtuous
about it, but it is amazing how people can be
so generous towards various causes on give a little and
all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 4 (39:18):
Yeah, you've I mean, you know, we've set up our
giving machine down at Sylvia Park, you know, and you're
surprised at the people that are there giving. It's quite
often the people who don't have much. But a lot
of the times you've just got to remind people that
have a lot you know that you'll always be blessed
and you give.
Speaker 3 (39:32):
A little by the way, you've been to Ika Yet.
Speaker 4 (39:35):
Now I'm going to go after this. I think my
wife's already there. She caught a training.
Speaker 3 (39:40):
I think there are more crowds today, but yesterday there
was no one because everyone thought it's going to be hell,
let's not go.
Speaker 4 (39:46):
I try to meet balls. Apparently, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (39:49):
There's a lot of talk of them other you left
the report back. Are they actually any good?
Speaker 4 (39:54):
They don't look much better than the school lunches they're
serving up. But I'll give them the go.
Speaker 3 (39:58):
Hey, look, twenty seconds to go again. If people want
to donate to your cause, where do they go?
Speaker 4 (40:03):
Yep, the BBM program dot com. You'll see it with
the donate button.
Speaker 3 (40:06):
You give if you can please, Yeah, Hey, Merry Christmas.
Speaker 4 (40:09):
Mate, Merry Christmas, take care everyone.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
Okay, good on you. Hey, we're back with Andrew Baskins
with us from Hard Brasset Management. His last appearance for
the year will look to be good for a donation
back shortly.
Speaker 1 (40:23):
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