October 19, 2024 • 13 mins
The ten teenagers signed up to the Military Style Bootcamp trial for youth offenders have just finished their three months in the bootcamp portion, learning basic skills like ironing and cleaning.
The teenagers are about to begin the next phase of the trial - transitioning back into the community.
Each child will now have nine months with an individual rehabilitation plan tailored to what they need to best transition them into the real world.
Youth worker Aaron Hendry joins Tim Beveridge to discuss whether this is where it all falls apart.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
You're listening to the weekend collective podcast from News Talks'd be.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
The boot camps have all the teenagers that signed up.
The ten teenagers signed up to the military style boot
camp trial for youth offenders have just finished their three
months earned the boot camp portion learning basic skills like
ironing and cleaning and other things. The teenagers are about
to begin the next phase of the trial, transitioning back
into the community. Each child, and it's worth remembering these
(00:33):
are their kids. These young people there will now have
nine months with an individual rehabilitation plan tailored to what
they need to best transition them into the real world.
Youth worker and Rangatahi advocate Aaron Hendry joins me. Now, Aaron,
good afternoon.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Hey, good good Now.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
I heard, I think I heard an interview with Karen
Saw a couple of days ago speaking about this, and
she sounded pretty thrilled about where these people have got to.
What's what have you heard, What's what's your stance and
where the app Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
Look, I mean in terms of you know, transition out
of the camps into community, that there was always going
to be the hardest, hardest point. We know that kind
of residential spaces when in that controlled environment, those young
people are maybe going to do a little bit better.
The hardest point is bring them back into community, ensuring
(01:28):
that they're getting the support, the love, the care in
all those key issues that are gone around in their
lives can actually be addressed. That's going to be the
difficult part.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Do you think the three months themselves have gone well.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Probably not something I can kind of speak to specifically
at this stage. I think one thing we do know
about the camps, you know they were first sold, is
boot camp. Specifically, what I think has emerged isn't exactly
a boot camp. We've seen some really good work from
Oddering on some key to try and ensure that there's
some good evidence base and rapround support being provided to
those young people within that space. Military component, from what
(02:03):
I can see, is largely just a gimmick, with a
lot of work being done to ensure that there's residential
support and therapeutic support being offered.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
So undoubtedly, negative influences would have played a massive role
in these young people getting to the stage where they
went to the boot camp. How do you what control
can be exercised over those out those influences which for
the last three months haven't been there.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Yeah, I mean influences one way to say it.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
I think there's a whole range of reasons why young
people end up in that environment. A lot of these
young people have had long term histories of trauma, mental illness, addiction, disabilities,
and they're living in communities where there's a lot of
part poverty, housing and security and some really big environmental
challenges going on for them. And so that's the hard
(02:56):
thing because it's not just necessarily about ensuring that there
is that mentory support, which is really good. It's important
that we have that mentory support and that it's flexible
and there's a lot.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Of support offer. We can see that.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
One of the biggest challenges is these bigger, wider issues
that we as a society are still wrestling with ensuring
that actually all of our FANO had access to, you know,
some of those basic human needs like stable housing and
you know, enough kai to put on the table. And
so some of those those challenges that we're wrestling with
as a wider society will come into how well we
can support these faro.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
So how are they going to be supported now they're out?
Speaker 4 (03:30):
Yeah, I mean from what I can see, they have
a ufuka and a mentor who's going to be alongside them,
and then it's going to be about the community coming
together and ensuring that they're wrapping around them and delivering
kind of the support that they need.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Do you believe it can that we can make it worth?
Speaker 4 (03:49):
I think there is so much wider issues we need
to start addressing. When we talk about crime and youth crime,
everyone's looking for a silver bullet.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
There's no silver bullet to this stuff.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
There is some significant allenges within our communities. There is
some significant gaps that we are ignoring. You know, when
we talk about why a young.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Person ends up in the justice system, they're there.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Because of poverty and inequality in our communities because our
father often don't have the support that they need. And
we really need to start paying attention to how we
can ensure that we're investing far earlier before a young
person ends up in a situation where they need to
come into a residential unit like this. And so there's
a lot more work we can be doing and to
ensure that our communities have the support in chier and
(04:34):
resources they need to really care for these young people.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Well, you know, the transition stage they talk about now
with the sort of well it seems like they sort
of wrap around support hopefully individual rehabilitation plans. Has anything
sort of like this being done before of because as
you started, just as you said at the beginning, I
mean the description of boot camps not really what they are,
is it.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
Yeah, I mean we haven't done a great job in
New Zealand with our transitions and our sort of residential work,
and I think this is you know, probably props to
ot around trying to do a really good at making
sure there is a strong transition. One of the things
that's really important for us to recognize that that's been
enabled because there's been more resourcing kind of put into this,
and you know, if we look at all the residential
units across the country, we need to be ensuring the
(05:17):
better resources to support those young people because my view
is that we could probably do a lot better job
by you know, moving to more localized, smaller programs for
young people where we're keeping them in communities and providing
them with that reparound support and ensuring that actually they're
they're staying embedded in the communities and gaining that support
right there. Resourceing communities with what they're hait so so,
(05:40):
I mean, what we're trying to do, what they're trying
to do is definitely a step in the right direction.
I think one of the cautions for the government is
that they want to scale this and they also you know,
some of the plans that they have to I guess,
you know, change the program going forward will dramatically change
how the pilot looks at this point in time.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Yeah, I guess that that would be the worry. Isn't
it that we've got this very focused period on a
small number of high needs teenagers. But when you try
to scale it up, the worry, I guess is that
it's that it becomes this unwieldy, impersonal machine, is it?
I mean, is it possible to scale it up? Do
you think if it works?
Speaker 4 (06:21):
I'd be very concerned in terms of the way the
government is talking about scaling it up at the moment.
Some of the things that make it look like it
is working the way that it is is you know,
you've got small cohorts of young people coming in together.
There's very intensive support and resources being put into this
small group of young people, and then you know, the
transition out to scale it up, you would have to
(06:42):
ensure that you're putting a whole lot more resource into that.
You're also going to be having young people coming in
and out, and one of the key components of this
program was choice. Young people were able to choose to
be a part of that project, and that's really important
for young people in terms of their own recovery journeys
and healing, and that won't necessarily be a part of
how the project continues, so it would dramatically change the project.
(07:02):
To dramatically change the project as it goes.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Are you just to drill into that a little bit
when you you know, you say there are concerns about
scaling it up, Do you mean that those Are you
worried about there being those small cohorts becoming big cohorts
or you just think having lots of small cohorts is
going to be a lot more challenging.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Well, I think there's two things.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
Either the small co hot becomes huge and you've got
a whole range of young people coming in and out
of the project constantly.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
It sounds like a bad idea and it's going to.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Be dramatically different, right And either way, you're also going
to have to be putting a lot more resource into
these projects, and so then you start asking the question, well,
why are we putting that resource in the community to
prevent young people from needing these sort of projects in
the first place. It would also mean a huge commitment
from the government to be investing more funding than they
are already. We're not really seeing a government that's willing
(07:54):
to invest a lot more funding into projects to you know,
ensure you know, these sort of results. So, I mean,
that's that's something that the government's going to have to
really wrestle with. I mean, when we look at the
research around residential projects, we do know that, you know,
what is successful is the therapeutic support, is the rap
around support is actually dressing the needs you know that
(08:18):
these young people have. You know, the military component is
really just a gimmick. And so we still have that question,
why are we not putting more resources into our communities
to ensure that it will actually prevent young people getting
into these spaces in the first place and actually empowering
our communities to care for our young people.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Well, yeah, I guess that's more of a political issues
and about where you can put resources. But what's your
take on what you understand the first three months to have
been or is the jury out for you with us?
Speaker 4 (08:42):
Well, I think you know, one of the things I
was saying from the beginning is you know that the
three months inside is the easiest part. The hardest part
is the transition, and so I guess we'll see kind.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Of how it goes.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
It's I think, I like, what is trying to do
in terms of having that that youth mental who's ever
to try to track them through the journey? But that
is only one component of what is some really complex
issues that are going on for those families, And so
it's going to be really how can the community come together,
organize around those young people and ensure that they in
their FARO get all the support in care that they require.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
What would you absolutely need to see in there for
the next few months now that they're leaving. What do
you think the essential components should be. Anything that stands
out to you as just a no brainer?
Speaker 4 (09:25):
Yeah, I mean, we need to see that those young
people are getting you know, that ongoing refernd support, that
they're going back to safe families and homes, that their
faro are getting the support that they require.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
As well.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
We're going to remember it's about a community, and often
these young people coming from communities that have been marginalized
and disadvantage for generations. And so it's not just about
supporting one young person, it's about ensuring that actually that
their community has been supported and cared for and is
also able to, you know, get the support they need
for the needs that they have.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
I guess the question is, I mean, what else can
you do? Anyway, what would you be doing? I mean,
you've talked about intervening in earliest stages as well, But
on the face of it, do you support what the
government's trying to do with these I don't want to
use the word boot camp, but there we are.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
I mean, it seems to me that there's been kind
of two things that have gone on. There's the political
conversation around boot camps, and you know that was used
as a tool to you know, I mean, to get
votes to get into two election. There's what OT you've
really tried to do, you know. Yeah, yeah, well, yeah,
there's what OTO you've really tried to do, which is,
you know, use this time to redesign the residential units,
which is really important. You know, if you're going to
(10:34):
use you for residences. Then we need to do a
lot better. We need to ensure that this sort of
rep around support is provided. The military component is well,
you know, there's no evidence that it works. Often the
evidence shows that it can cause more harm. And it
can see that OT have really tried to you know,
pull that back and they've just used it for what
the government has asked for, you know, the long term,
(10:55):
we need to maybe be looking at you know, we
does the evidence point to around what really works for
young people in these spaces and we're going to where
are we going to invest our money? And I think,
you know, if we look at the evidence smaller, localized,
you know, projects in local communities that are connected to
local communities are far more powerful and far more effective
at supporting young people long term. And we can do
(11:16):
it at a you know, at a bitter kind of
cost to our communities.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Okay, so lucky last I guess you know you would
have had your initial reaction to the announcement of book camps,
then you saw how they were unfolded. What's your would
you give them out of ten so far? I know
it's a check question, but you know what I mean,
As your impression shifted Yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
I mean what I have been you know, yes, happy
to see is that OT worked really hard to ensure
that there is an evidence based to what they're doing,
and they're working hard to ensure that these young.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
People get the support that they need.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
I think the challenge has been, you know, the pace
that you know, the government has required them to work
has you know, in my view, at least impacted a
little bit on what they what can be done for
our young people. And I think there's a really conversation
around ensuring that, you know, politicals don't get in the
way of operational matters for young people specifically.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Well, I guess, I mean, and sure see her heart
is about getting the right solution too. As a minister,
I would guess you'd accept that one, Joe.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
I mean, I think we all want the right things
for our young people. I think when we also need
to ensure that when we're putting these sort of ideas
on the table, that we are starting from a space
that has grounded an evidence and going from there. We've
pushed a lot of energy and attention into this and
like I said, you know, there's a lot of great
people in it. It've worked really hard to do what
they can under what the government has given them. We
(12:40):
could have gone in a very different direction and still,
you know, had some really good results for our young
people that was grounded in evidence, and maybe would have
had much longer, wider impacts for our communities that would
have been positive.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Yeah, Okay, hey, I appreciate your time. Thanks Aaron.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Thanks mate.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Okay, Bobby. That is Aaron Hendry and he is a
youth development worker.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
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Speaker 2 (00:10):
The boot camps have all the teenagers that signed up.
The ten teenagers signed up to the military style boot
camp trial for youth offenders have just finished their three
months earned the boot camp portion learning basic skills like
ironing and cleaning and other things. The teenagers are about
to begin the next phase of the trial, transitioning back
into the community. Each child, and it's worth remembering these
(00:33):
are their kids. These young people there will now have
nine months with an individual rehabilitation plan tailored to what
they need to best transition them into the real world.
Youth worker and Rangatahi advocate Aaron Hendry joins me. Now, Aaron,
good afternoon.
Speaker 3 (00:49):
Hey, good good Now.
Speaker 2 (00:52):
I heard, I think I heard an interview with Karen
Saw a couple of days ago speaking about this, and
she sounded pretty thrilled about where these people have got to.
What's what have you heard, What's what's your stance and
where the app Yeah.
Speaker 4 (01:07):
Look, I mean in terms of you know, transition out
of the camps into community, that there was always going
to be the hardest, hardest point. We know that kind
of residential spaces when in that controlled environment, those young
people are maybe going to do a little bit better.
The hardest point is bring them back into community, ensuring
(01:28):
that they're getting the support, the love, the care in
all those key issues that are gone around in their
lives can actually be addressed. That's going to be the
difficult part.
Speaker 2 (01:36):
Do you think the three months themselves have gone well.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Probably not something I can kind of speak to specifically
at this stage. I think one thing we do know
about the camps, you know they were first sold, is
boot camp. Specifically, what I think has emerged isn't exactly
a boot camp. We've seen some really good work from
Oddering on some key to try and ensure that there's
some good evidence base and rapround support being provided to
those young people within that space. Military component, from what
(02:03):
I can see, is largely just a gimmick, with a
lot of work being done to ensure that there's residential
support and therapeutic support being offered.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
So undoubtedly, negative influences would have played a massive role
in these young people getting to the stage where they
went to the boot camp. How do you what control
can be exercised over those out those influences which for
the last three months haven't been there.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
Yeah, I mean influences one way to say it.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
I think there's a whole range of reasons why young
people end up in that environment. A lot of these
young people have had long term histories of trauma, mental illness, addiction, disabilities,
and they're living in communities where there's a lot of
part poverty, housing and security and some really big environmental
challenges going on for them. And so that's the hard
(02:56):
thing because it's not just necessarily about ensuring that there
is that mentory support, which is really good. It's important
that we have that mentory support and that it's flexible
and there's a lot.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Of support offer. We can see that.
Speaker 4 (03:07):
One of the biggest challenges is these bigger, wider issues
that we as a society are still wrestling with ensuring
that actually all of our FANO had access to, you know,
some of those basic human needs like stable housing and
you know, enough kai to put on the table. And
so some of those those challenges that we're wrestling with
as a wider society will come into how well we
can support these faro.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
So how are they going to be supported now they're out?
Speaker 4 (03:30):
Yeah, I mean from what I can see, they have
a ufuka and a mentor who's going to be alongside them,
and then it's going to be about the community coming
together and ensuring that they're wrapping around them and delivering
kind of the support that they need.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Do you believe it can that we can make it worth?
Speaker 4 (03:49):
I think there is so much wider issues we need
to start addressing. When we talk about crime and youth crime,
everyone's looking for a silver bullet.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
There's no silver bullet to this stuff.
Speaker 4 (04:01):
There is some significant allenges within our communities. There is
some significant gaps that we are ignoring. You know, when
we talk about why a young.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Person ends up in the justice system, they're there.
Speaker 4 (04:13):
Because of poverty and inequality in our communities because our
father often don't have the support that they need. And
we really need to start paying attention to how we
can ensure that we're investing far earlier before a young
person ends up in a situation where they need to
come into a residential unit like this. And so there's
a lot more work we can be doing and to
ensure that our communities have the support in chier and
(04:34):
resources they need to really care for these young people.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Well, you know, the transition stage they talk about now
with the sort of well it seems like they sort
of wrap around support hopefully individual rehabilitation plans. Has anything
sort of like this being done before of because as
you started, just as you said at the beginning, I
mean the description of boot camps not really what they are,
is it.
Speaker 4 (04:56):
Yeah, I mean we haven't done a great job in
New Zealand with our transitions and our sort of residential work,
and I think this is you know, probably props to
ot around trying to do a really good at making
sure there is a strong transition. One of the things
that's really important for us to recognize that that's been
enabled because there's been more resourcing kind of put into this,
and you know, if we look at all the residential
units across the country, we need to be ensuring the
(05:17):
better resources to support those young people because my view
is that we could probably do a lot better job
by you know, moving to more localized, smaller programs for
young people where we're keeping them in communities and providing
them with that reparound support and ensuring that actually they're
they're staying embedded in the communities and gaining that support
right there. Resourceing communities with what they're hait so so,
(05:40):
I mean, what we're trying to do, what they're trying
to do is definitely a step in the right direction.
I think one of the cautions for the government is
that they want to scale this and they also you know,
some of the plans that they have to I guess,
you know, change the program going forward will dramatically change
how the pilot looks at this point in time.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Yeah, I guess that that would be the worry. Isn't
it that we've got this very focused period on a
small number of high needs teenagers. But when you try
to scale it up, the worry, I guess is that
it's that it becomes this unwieldy, impersonal machine, is it?
I mean, is it possible to scale it up? Do
you think if it works?
Speaker 4 (06:21):
I'd be very concerned in terms of the way the
government is talking about scaling it up at the moment.
Some of the things that make it look like it
is working the way that it is is you know,
you've got small cohorts of young people coming in together.
There's very intensive support and resources being put into this
small group of young people, and then you know, the
transition out to scale it up, you would have to
(06:42):
ensure that you're putting a whole lot more resource into that.
You're also going to be having young people coming in
and out, and one of the key components of this
program was choice. Young people were able to choose to
be a part of that project, and that's really important
for young people in terms of their own recovery journeys
and healing, and that won't necessarily be a part of
how the project continues, so it would dramatically change the project.
(07:02):
To dramatically change the project as it goes.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Are you just to drill into that a little bit
when you you know, you say there are concerns about
scaling it up, Do you mean that those Are you
worried about there being those small cohorts becoming big cohorts
or you just think having lots of small cohorts is
going to be a lot more challenging.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Well, I think there's two things.
Speaker 4 (07:25):
Either the small co hot becomes huge and you've got
a whole range of young people coming in and out
of the project constantly.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
It sounds like a bad idea and it's going to.
Speaker 4 (07:33):
Be dramatically different, right And either way, you're also going
to have to be putting a lot more resource into
these projects, and so then you start asking the question, well,
why are we putting that resource in the community to
prevent young people from needing these sort of projects in
the first place. It would also mean a huge commitment
from the government to be investing more funding than they
are already. We're not really seeing a government that's willing
(07:54):
to invest a lot more funding into projects to you know,
ensure you know, these sort of results. So, I mean,
that's that's something that the government's going to have to
really wrestle with. I mean, when we look at the
research around residential projects, we do know that, you know,
what is successful is the therapeutic support, is the rap
around support is actually dressing the needs you know that
(08:18):
these young people have. You know, the military component is
really just a gimmick. And so we still have that question,
why are we not putting more resources into our communities
to ensure that it will actually prevent young people getting
into these spaces in the first place and actually empowering
our communities to care for our young people.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
Well, yeah, I guess that's more of a political issues
and about where you can put resources. But what's your
take on what you understand the first three months to have
been or is the jury out for you with us?
Speaker 4 (08:42):
Well, I think you know, one of the things I
was saying from the beginning is you know that the
three months inside is the easiest part. The hardest part
is the transition, and so I guess we'll see kind.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Of how it goes.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
It's I think, I like, what is trying to do
in terms of having that that youth mental who's ever
to try to track them through the journey? But that
is only one component of what is some really complex
issues that are going on for those families, And so
it's going to be really how can the community come together,
organize around those young people and ensure that they in
their FARO get all the support in care that they require.
Speaker 2 (09:15):
What would you absolutely need to see in there for
the next few months now that they're leaving. What do
you think the essential components should be. Anything that stands
out to you as just a no brainer?
Speaker 4 (09:25):
Yeah, I mean, we need to see that those young
people are getting you know, that ongoing refernd support, that
they're going back to safe families and homes, that their
faro are getting the support that they require.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
As well.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
We're going to remember it's about a community, and often
these young people coming from communities that have been marginalized
and disadvantage for generations. And so it's not just about
supporting one young person, it's about ensuring that actually that
their community has been supported and cared for and is
also able to, you know, get the support they need
for the needs that they have.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
I guess the question is, I mean, what else can
you do? Anyway, what would you be doing? I mean,
you've talked about intervening in earliest stages as well, But
on the face of it, do you support what the
government's trying to do with these I don't want to
use the word boot camp, but there we are.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
I mean, it seems to me that there's been kind
of two things that have gone on. There's the political
conversation around boot camps, and you know that was used
as a tool to you know, I mean, to get
votes to get into two election. There's what OT you've
really tried to do, you know. Yeah, yeah, well, yeah,
there's what OTO you've really tried to do, which is,
you know, use this time to redesign the residential units,
which is really important. You know, if you're going to
(10:34):
use you for residences. Then we need to do a
lot better. We need to ensure that this sort of
rep around support is provided. The military component is well,
you know, there's no evidence that it works. Often the
evidence shows that it can cause more harm. And it
can see that OT have really tried to you know,
pull that back and they've just used it for what
the government has asked for, you know, the long term,
(10:55):
we need to maybe be looking at you know, we
does the evidence point to around what really works for
young people in these spaces and we're going to where
are we going to invest our money? And I think,
you know, if we look at the evidence smaller, localized,
you know, projects in local communities that are connected to
local communities are far more powerful and far more effective
at supporting young people long term. And we can do
(11:16):
it at a you know, at a bitter kind of
cost to our communities.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Okay, so lucky last I guess you know you would
have had your initial reaction to the announcement of book camps,
then you saw how they were unfolded. What's your would
you give them out of ten so far? I know
it's a check question, but you know what I mean,
As your impression shifted Yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:36):
I mean what I have been you know, yes, happy
to see is that OT worked really hard to ensure
that there is an evidence based to what they're doing,
and they're working hard to ensure that these young.
Speaker 3 (11:47):
People get the support that they need.
Speaker 4 (11:49):
I think the challenge has been, you know, the pace
that you know, the government has required them to work
has you know, in my view, at least impacted a
little bit on what they what can be done for
our young people. And I think there's a really conversation
around ensuring that, you know, politicals don't get in the
way of operational matters for young people specifically.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Well, I guess, I mean, and sure see her heart
is about getting the right solution too. As a minister,
I would guess you'd accept that one, Joe.
Speaker 4 (12:18):
I mean, I think we all want the right things
for our young people. I think when we also need
to ensure that when we're putting these sort of ideas
on the table, that we are starting from a space
that has grounded an evidence and going from there. We've
pushed a lot of energy and attention into this and
like I said, you know, there's a lot of great
people in it. It've worked really hard to do what
they can under what the government has given them. We
(12:40):
could have gone in a very different direction and still,
you know, had some really good results for our young
people that was grounded in evidence, and maybe would have
had much longer, wider impacts for our communities that would
have been positive.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Yeah, Okay, hey, I appreciate your time. Thanks Aaron.
Speaker 3 (12:55):
Thanks mate.
Speaker 2 (12:55):
Okay, Bobby. That is Aaron Hendry and he is a
youth development worker.
Speaker 1 (13:01):
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