The Ownership Effect
The Ownership Effect is your front-row seat to one of the most powerful — and underappreciated — forces reshaping the American workplace: employee ownership. Hosted by Jim Bonham, President and CEO of The ESOP Association, this biweekly podcast dives deep into the transformative impact of Employee Stock Ownership Plans (ESOPs) on businesses, workers, and local economies. Each episode features candid conversations with company founders, policymakers, and employees whose lives have been transformed by ownership. You’ll hear real stories of change and shared success, and why companies are choosing the ESOP model. We’ll dive into the challenges holding employee ownership back—and the solutions that can bring it to more Americans. If you’re a business owner, an employee who wants more than a paycheck from your job, or someone who believes in an economy that works for everyone, this podcast is for you! New episodes every two weeks. Subscribe and join the movement toward a more prosperous workplace and economy.
Episodes
What changes when “I’ll try” becomes “I’ll do it!”? Carla Ondrasik, author of Stop Trying!, joins Jim Bonham to explore how fear of failure and perfectionism can keep good ideas from becoming action.
Drawing on her career in music publishing, Carla shares a story about a songwriter who took on a challenge he thought was beyond him. She and Jim discuss what leaders can do to make room for ideas, m...
What gives work meaning beyond a paycheck?
In this episode of The Ownership Effect, Jim Bonham sits down with Kathy Varol, former Head of Global Purpose Strategy at Adidas, to explore how purpose can transform a company from a place people work into a place people believe in.
Drawing on her journey from Peace Corps volunteer to global business leader, Kathy shares how purpose becomes more than a mission statement when it's embedded...
What makes an ESOP an ESOP—and why does the distinction matter?
Jim Bonham sits down with Ben Holder of Plastic Products Company, Derek Vick of Freedom Industries, and Peter Ney of EA Engineering, three experienced ESOP leaders, to unpack the core principles that make ESOPs unique.
They explore how ESOPs create long-term wealth and retirement security ...
Why does the economy look healthy on paper while so many people feel like it isn't working for them? Economist, author, and financial educator Kyla Scanlon joins Jim Bonham for the Season Two premiere of The Ownership Effect to unpack the “vibecession”, the disconnect between economic data and how people actually experience the economy.
Jim and Kyla explore what younger workers want from their e...
Welcome to the season finale of The Ownership Effect! In this episode, Jim Bonham is joined by previous guests Gary Shorman of Eagle Communications and Jason Wellman of ESOP Partners to help answer audience questions from Season One. The conversation ranges from the business succession crisis in the U.S and how ESOPs can provide a solution, legislation and regulation that could impact ESOPs, and private equity’s interest in E...
In this episode of The Ownership Effect, we hear two deeply personal stories that show what employee ownership truly means at the individual level.
Amy Huot of Proponent and Christy Magee of DVL Group share how working at employee-owned companies transformed their financial security, career paths, and family futures. From rebuilding retirement savings after a major health crisis to...
What happens when a company does everything right—and still ends up under federal investigation?
On this episode of The Ownership Effect, Jim Bonham speaks with Brian Bowers, CEO of Bowers + Kubota, about one of the most consequential ESOP cases in recent history. After becoming an ESOP, Bowers + Kubota became the target of a Department of Labor investigation that stretched o...
Jim Bonham continues his conversation with retirement policy expert Kendra Isaacson, examining why retirement security has become a top bipartisan priority in Congress and how ESOPs can play a critical role for both younger workers and retiring business owners. They discuss recent legislative developments, the long-awaited need for clear guidance on adequate consideration, and how smart policy can strengthen ...
Retirement policy expert Kendra Isaacson joins Jim Bonham for Part One of a two-part conversation exploring why employee stock ownership plans enjoy rare bipartisan support on Capitol Hill. Drawing on her experience at the Department of Labor and on the Senate HELP Committee, Isaacson explains how ESOPs fit within America’s retirement system—and why lawmakers on both the left and the right view employee ownership as a p...
Dr. John Hoffmire joins the podcast for a sweeping, candid look at the history of ESOPs: How they began as bold experiments, to the lessons learned along the way, and what can be done next to create millions more employee owners.
What turns an ESOP into a true ownership community? Culture—and the communication that powers it. Jim Bonham sits down with Lindsay Shafer and Jason Wellman to break down the habits and everyday practices that create engaged employee owners and high-performing ESOPs.
In Part Two of The Ownership Effect premiere, Jim Bonham sits down with Drew Tavss, CEO of Mid South Building Supply, for a deep dive into the company’s ESOP journey. What factors went into Mid South Building Supply’s decision, what led them to their Miracle Moment, and how did the ESOP transition affect the company and employees? Listen to the latest episode and find out!
In the premiere episode of The Ownership Effect, Jim Bonham speaks with Gary Shorman, Chairman of Eagle Communications. Jim and Gary discuss Eagle’s ESOP journey, and what employee ownership has meant for the company, the employees, and the communities it serves.
The Ownership Effect is your front-row seat to one of the most powerful — and underappreciated — forces reshaping the American workplace: employee ownership. Hosted by Jim Bonham, President and CEO of The ESOP Association, this biweekly podcast dives deep into the transformative impact of Employee Stock Ownership Plans (ESOPs) on businesses, workers, and local economies.
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