HALLOWEEN 2023! LVCRFT & Valerie Complex (Deadline) Talk Horror & Halloween Movies!

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In this special Halloween twenty twenty threeedition of pop Culture Weekly, I talk
with Valerie Complex from Deadline all abouthorror movies today and then once again I
bring back Lovecraft to talk about theirbrand new album. Let's go. Welcome
to pop Culture Weekly with Kyle McMahonfrom iHeartRadio your pop culture news, views,

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reviews and celebrity interviews on all themovies, TV, music and pop
culture u crabe Weekly. Here's Kylemcmahonner no Nonerner. Hello, Welcome to
pop Culture Weekly with Kyle McMahon.I of course am Kyle McMahon and I
am so happy. You know,this is my favorite time of the year.

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Halloween is my favorite holiday, myfavorite day of the year, and
so I always look forward to itand this episode in particular. Today once
again Lovecraft is back and we talkabout their brand new album, which I
can't wait to discuss. And fromDeadlinehollywood Deadline dot Com, Valerie Complex joins

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me. She is an associate editorand film writer with Deadline and a horror
fan and she's a badass girl.Let me tell you that love her.
So without further ado, let's justget right into it. Okay, let's
just get to the good stuff.Here we go, Valerie Complex. So
I am here with the one andonly Valerie Complex. She is awesome.

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She is an associate editor and filmwriter at Deadline, which, as I've
talked about all the time on theshow, my go to resource for breaking
news in Hollywood and beyond. Thankyou so much for joining me, Valerie.
I really appreciate it. Thank youfor having me much appreciate it.
Of course, I feel like thishas been like months in the making because

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it has. Right, Life happenedand schedules don't aligne sometimes, so it's
all good. Yeah. And youare a busy, busy person with the
all the award award shows, filmcircuits, film festival circuits and all that
good stuff. You are highly indemand, so I really appreciate you chilling

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with me for a little bit.So we are talking. We're in my
favorite month of the year, leadingup to my favorite day of the year,
my favorite holiday, and that isHalloween. And you and I are
big horror film genre film people.And that's how you got your start into

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journalism, right I was, Yeah, that's how I got involved. I
was covering mostly horror and science fictionon the now defunct movie Pilot website.
I don't know if anybody remembers.I remember there, and then you know,
moved up from there. I startedwriting for genre sites like a GS,

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The nerdst Black Girl Nerds and thingsof that nature, and that was,
you know, and then I youknow, wrote for Io nine,
which is a big sci fi orso I so that was fun. I
wasn't always like straight laced, youknow, right right? Yeah, you
know, randomly, what is yourfavorite if you can pick one your favorite
horror movie of the year or justin general, just in general. That's

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hard because you know, you havea film that's your favorite when you're younger.
As you get older, you're like, wow, does this trash?
And so yeah. So many,like very little have held up. But
if I have to talk about onethat's held up even into adulthood, I
would have to say the exorsis ooh, that's a good woman. And it's
what the fortieth anniversary this year.Yeah, And I know it's like a

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super you know, regular answer andkind of cliche it at this point,
but it's only one that I canthink of that has been like, oh
wow, this held up. Yeah, So let me talk about letterbox,
because I may have an option andthere that I didn't think of, But
I would say the exercise what aboutyou? I would probably say the Original

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Halloween. I'd say the Original Halloweenfor whatever reason. I don't know if
it's part nostalgia or what, butas a horror movie, you know,
I think it's still really effective.Just the score and just everything kind of
comes together to be really creepy,even today for me. Okay, so

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now some more are sort of rollingoff the rolling, you know, out
of my head, and so I'mthinking about like the ring to the Japanese.
I really liked a film called It'scalled Cairo in Japanese, but it's
the Japanese, Okay. So inAmerica it's called Pulse. In Japan is

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called Cairo. Okay. That's areally awesome movie that sort of stands up
against time. And let's see.Uh. I liked Midsmar. I know
that's like a oh boy. Canwe talk about that for a second.
Yes, So I first of all, I love the writer director. Secondly,

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I still to this day I loveA twenty four and almost everything that
they've ever released. I was inthe theater and I remember when it ended
I said to myself, and Istill feel this way today. I don't
know if that was the worst thingI've ever seen or the best thing I've

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ever seen, And today today I'mstill I still feel that way. I
think a lot of people feel thatsort of the sort of you know,
confusion about that film, and Idon't blame them. You know, It's
just it's just an extremely divisive film, and I don't think I realized that
until much much later after it cameout, and you know, you talk
to people in your own enthusiastic andthen like, I fucking hate that movie.

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Oh okay, nice. I feltthe same way about Mother from uh
who was it, Darren was orwhatever? Yeah, yeah, yeah,
I felt the same way. Iwas like at the end of the movie,
I'm like, what the fuck isthat? And then I'm like,
but wait a second. You know, I started thinking about what it represents

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and like the whole Adam and Eveand you know, uh that that kind
of you know, deep meaning behindit. And then I'm like, well,
that's also kind of genius, butlike, what the hell did I
just watch? It was just Ifeel the same way about those two movies,
actually, and I think we oftenforget about like the you know,

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the horror films that cross genres,like Event Horizon. It wasn't a very
popular film when it came out inninety seven, but it's become sort of
a cult classic, you know,blending sci fi and horror together, which
I thought was a great film.If you look at if you're looking at

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action horror, there's I don't reallyhave I guess what is the name of
that movie, Overlord, Oh withthe like Nazi thing. Yeah, yeah,
yeah, have your your your actionsort of or like Dawn of the
Dead, which would be like actionhorror, and you know, you have

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your more traditional horror films like TheWitch, which I really liked, or
like Pitch Black, which a lotof people don't talk about. But I
still think that like one of BenDiesel's best performances and probably one of the
best movies he's been in because itcomes from a really creative angle. It

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did something we didn't see before.What is it like to be an anti
hero in this situation? So reallyreally good stuff. I really liked Tales
from the Hood nineteen ninety five.Yes, that's at one a big sort
of classic. Let's see, I'mlooking at my list here. I love
the Omen. I think the Omenis still pretty creepy to this day.

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Oh yeah, he remake the originalnineteen version. And let's see some other
ones. Have you ever seen movieDemons? Not Night of the Demons,
but Demons? I think this isthis a Dario Argento movie? I think?
So? Mm Okay, I knowI haven't, but I know I

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think I know exactly what you're talkingabout. It takes in a movie theater
and everybody turns into monsters and everybody'strying to get out, and it takes
place in Italy. Okay, now, so so I should watch that one.
I would. I would watch itby Limberto Baba. So not Daria

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Argentle but Daria our Gentle Light.Yeah. Oh gosh, I'm just looking
at my list and just seeing whatabout Sorry, oh no, no,
you're totally fine. Creep showed theoriginal original. That's a great one.
Everything will most likely be original.I don't. Remakes are rarely good to

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me. So well, let meask you, Suspira. Am I saying
it Rightspiria? Yes? Actually?Okay, so like you, you just
turn me into a hypocrite because Iwas going to say that the remake of
Suspiria is better than the originals.Yes, that is my list because that

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was a It was a really itwas shocking because I actually didn't know what
to expect going in, and Ihad a really faded memory of what the
original was like mm hmm. Butseeing this version was like, oh shit,
like like Luca Guandnino turned this intosomething right right? Uh crap?

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Oh are you in New York orlaw York? Okay, So there is
a haunt haunted attraction. I don'tknow if it's open still, but at
least as a few as of afew years ago, it was called uh
sleep No More in New York hmhm. And it is not really a

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traditional haunted house. Everybody has towear a mask, there's no phones.
You uh go in with whoever youcame with. That's it. So I
went by myself because I was doinga piece for Huffington Post and and so
they put you in by yourself andyou wear these masks that every single mask

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is the same, so it's allvery anonymous, and it takes place in
a it's in a like kind ofan old hotel. It is just it's
very interactive. So there's all thesethings going on in different rooms and halls,
and maybe an you know, anactor who you don't know as a

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guest, or an actor takes yourhand and pulls you into a room.
And this is what happened to me. Somebody took me into a room.
In this room, there was justa chair and there was like a light
bulb hanging from like a string orwhatever above the chair, really really creepy.

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And she sat me down and thenlike went like this, like wait
a second, and then left theroom and in behind me it was all
dark, and so I'm like,is there somebody behind me? I'm like
looking around, and I mean itwas just weird and eerie and disturbing.
That's what Suspiria. It was.It felt like the movie version of Suspiria.

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I mean the it felt like thereal life version of Suspiria. Really
really cool. If anybody's in NewYork and Sleep No More is still going,
which I hope it is, Ishould probably look it up real quick.
It looks like it is oh awesome. It is really really well worth
checking out. Oh yeah, theMcKittrick Hotel mckitchrickcotel dot com. Sleep No

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More in New York. It isreally really disturbingly weird. It's not like
a haunt where you leave because I'ma big Hona Attraction fan. It's not
like a haunt that you leave andyou're like, oh my god, that
was so scary and fun and blahblah blah. This is like in your
head like well after you leave.It's very strange, and they encourage you,

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you know, if you're in aroom, look through you know,
the drawers or whatever, and it'sjust incredible. So uh, Suspiria actually,
you know, for me, islike the movie version of Sleep No
More well worth it if you're aHANT fan in New York. And I
took a friend with me. Iremember taking a front with me to a
press screening and we were just likewhat, you know, what exactly are

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we going to be getting into?And it wasn't until like the one scene
with old girl twisting inside out.Oh snap, we we're really in for
something here. Yeah. Yeah,it delivered. Yeah, And that was
another you know work Suspiria that isn'tjust like oh that was so scary and

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good like and you know, nowI'm onto the next thing. That was
one that like kind of stuck withme where I'm like thinking about it later,
you know, like it's kind ofjust weird and stays with you.
And I think that that's the keyto horror, right, like finding a
movie that sticks with you long afteryou've left the theater. And you know,

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you have some films that sit likeoutside the genre but can be considered
like Horror Light Kristen Stewart Spencer,or films like Come and See, or
you know, there are films thatare out there, you know, dramas

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and thrillers that deployed a lot ofhorror tactics. Yeah. Wes Craven's Red
Eye, for example, is oneof those. Haven't seen the Red Eye?
Oh wait? Is that with what'sher name? On the plane?
Yes? Yes, okay, Idid see that. Yeah, yeah,
that is one that Yeah, Ienjoy those kinds of film as well.

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Or like The Neon Demon, whichis another devisive one. Yes, you
know sort of sits outside the horrorgenre, but you see a lot of
elements posted there. Mm hmm.Last Night and Soho was almost like that
for me. I believe that's whatit's called. Yes, And I think
last Night a Soho was touted astrue horror, which I disagreed with.

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Right, it's kind of like horrorlight or horror ish or something. Yeah,
it's horror ish. It deploys Gialloelements you know of horror. But
it wasn't like, oh my god, I'm so scared, right, I
can't sleep that night? Right,exactly? What about? So? I
just created a list on on letterbox, which I I love letterbox, and

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you and I were just talking aboutour our letterbox accounts. I created a
list best films for October and Halloween, and I had a when I created
it. In my mind, Ididn't want to do my favorite horror movies,
you know what I mean. Iwanted to do, like, what

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are the best Halloween slash October films? Which I feel like somebody listening or
may think, well, what's thedifference, Like there are horror movies that
I feel like, or even filmsin general that like you gotta watch during
October or or on a Halloween nightor something when you're like, oh,

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what you know, let's just chilland watch movies tonight. So I created
a it's called best Films for Octoberand Halloween, and of course my name
on letterbox Kyle McMahon and yours isv complex and follow us on letterbox.
So just some of mine. I'mjust you know, obviously not going to
go through all of them, butlike I even put like Casper on there,

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the original or yep, or maybeit's not the original, but then
like ninety five one, like Ifeel like that's like a great movie to
watch during October. There's just somethingabout it. I don't know if it's
like the childhood thing for me.Another one's hocus Pocus, which is a
I freaking love hocus Pocus, andI have friends that are like, oh,

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you know, over time it's likegotten cheesier. But then it have
people like me that are like justobsessed, like it's just become better over
time. And it's just some ofthe other ones off, you know,
just randomly kind of and feel freeto jump in if you have any thoughts
on any of these. But ElviraMistress of the Dark, obviously for many
it's a big one I used towatch as a kid, like yes,

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yes, she religiously as a childexactly, and I don't know if you've
seen it lately, but it's justElvira is very timeless in general for me,
you know, I mean even herwhole stick and you know she's been
on the show numerous times, andI love this about her that you know,
she's dressed as what like a youknow, kind of a universally universal

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monster sort of character. However,she's here whatever time that is, you
know, if you're watching it today, it's in the present or whatever.
And Mistress of the Dark really doeshold up for me in that kitchy sort
of set set here what's the wordsatiric, satirical like manner, and she's

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got that you know, that charmand uh and humor that It's just one
of those that every October I'm goingto watch Elvira and then I have things
like actually creep shows on my list. Ernest Scared Stupid. That's another kind
of throwback one for me. That'sthat's you know, we're not gonna I
would hope somebody watching Ernest Scared Stupidisn't like Kyle this. You know,

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the direction was awful and the writinghad plotholes, like I get, but
it is for me very enjoyable andI love it and a lot of that
is the nostalgic value, but it'sjust a fun Halloween Movie, even Halloween
Town. Have you ever seen anyof those? No? Okay, so
they're like a Disney ish I thinkit was like Disney Channel or something very

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you know. Debbie Reynolds starred,and they all live in this Halloween Town
and it says, you know onthe synopsis is on her thirteenth birthday,
Marni learns she's a witch, discoversa secret portal, and is transferred to
Halloween Town, a magical place whereghosts and ghules, which is where Wove
lives live apart from the human world. It's just one of those like kind
of kitchy, like I'm gonna putthis on and feel good sort of things,

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you know. But then I havethings like Trick or Treat. I
want to know your thoughts on Trickor Treat? Have you seen it?
I'm gonna laugh, but I've neverseen it before. What I haven't seen
Trick or Treat? And my friendhas been trying to get me to watch
Ginger Snaps and I started off.I started it, and then I was
like, let me just maybe maybeI'm just tired, like reconnect with it,

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and I'm going at some point myintroduction to horror was never those things
I didn't discover, like Halloween Townor anything like that. And love was
in my twenties. My dad wouldtake me to see like Nightmare on Elm
Street as a five year old,or you know, Friday the thirteenth.

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He was like, let's get fullyimmersed in this business. And my mom
says this because you know, heused to take her to see horror films
when she was pregnant with me,and so you know, I U said,
I was at the theater and I'dbe all into it and everything and
they get home be scared, whichis true. But I was like five
six years old. You know,at nine years old, my dad took
me to see Candy Man. Hetook me Wow, Angel Heart, which

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is like not appropriate for child,these things like Serpent in the Rainbow and
all that, and so you know, it wasn't until like later that I
discovered like, oh, there arethese things for kids. I mean I
used to read Goosebumps and stuff likethat. Graduated very you know early to

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reading an author called Christopher Pike whoused to write like hy a violent ya
like horror, okay, reading stufflike The Stand and Power. At fourteen,
like you know, what I mean, or it was different for me,
so like focus, focus and allthat and see until I was an
adult, right right, And likewhen I think of like perfect Halloween movies,

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I you know, it always dependson what's going on in my life
at that time. I might watcha bunch of horror comedy like Seawan of
the Dead and and Acol or youknow, if I'm feeling for the classics,
I'll just watch, you know,the Pantheon of horror. Watch some
Candy Man, even though those moviessuck. I might watch Friday the Thirteenth,

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even though most of those sucked toyou know, Freddy Jason, Michael,
the Evil Dead, stuff like that. Yeah, So I always feel
like that those are those are sortof a good place to start if you're

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looking just for something random to do, when you can always go into your
genre things or you know, pickif you're you know whatever. I've been
trying to get into animated horror recently, not really just Japanese anime, but
just you know, seeing where thehorror elements lie. So watching stuff like

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Watershipped Down, which was depressing,and or like Disney's Fantasia, which is
pretty like I think it scared meeven as a kid, me too,
or watching stuff like Legend Ooh,Tom Cruise. Yeah, it's a movie
that he never talksbout, which Idon't know why. Yeah, yeah,

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it's so good and it's terrifying.He was gonna say, it's a great
film. It's wells directed and it'screepy. But you know, so it'll
you know, depends on what you'relooking for. If you're looking for something
more modern. You know, Huludoes a horror thing every yes, Hulueen,
Right, yeah, Huluueen does somethingevery year. Not to say that

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those movies are good, but youknow it might be worth exploring. So
I guess it just depends on yourmood and what you're looking to do.
Absolutely absolutely, I need you asa friend. Please see Trick or Treat.
It's two thousand and seven, directedby Michael Dharty. It is definitely
not for kids. It is itis a kind of anthology where these four

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stories are kind of interwoven. Itfor me, has become a quintessential Halloween
movie. Very varied in the anthologicalstories. I shouldn't try to sound smart.
I don't even know if that's aword, but very varied in the

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four stories that are told, likeyou know, there there's a slasher one,
there's like a you know, asupernatural one. It is for me
a work of Halloween genius. Itis a quintessential Halloween movie. For me,
there won't be a year that Iwill not watch Trick or Treat.

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And now, so that was whattwo thousand and seven, so we're fifteen
years out or something. There hasbeen demand that has been growing over time
about a follow up, and there'sbeen some some graphic novel tie ins and
and that sort of thing. ButMichael Darty is saying that Trick or Treat
too is in the cards. Soand there's this awesome character Sam from you

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know, from Trick or Treat AndI'm trying to see his exact name.
Oh yeah, it's Sam because itstams for Sam Hein or whatever I think?
Am I saying that right? SamHein the Halloween Ritual or whatever it
is. So this little guy Samhas become for me an iconic Halloween character
like Jason or Freddie or Michael Myersor Pennyworth or Annabelle or whatever I mean,

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Penny Wise, not pennywhere. Pleasefor me, if you have a
night or day or whatever where youhave ninety minutes, Please watch Trick or
Treat and I need to know whatyou think. Okay, I will check
it out. I think you willlike it. There's something as a horror
fan. From one horror fan toanother, I really really really make cited

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for you to watch it because Ican't wait to know what you think.
I can't wait to talk to youabout it. But put it on your
list please for me, I aminterested. I will definitely check it out.
Like my friends and stuff, I'vebeen talking about it, but I'll
check it out and see and seewhat it's you know, and see what
it's like. Yeah, and I'mcurious now because now I've built it up

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so much. But I really trulybelieve as a halloween you know, as
a horror genre fan, that youwill you will really like it. One
last question, what are your Whatdo you think are some kind of quintessential
and you kind of mentioned some ofthem. We touched on this briefly,
but I'm curious a little bit morein depth. You know, if I'm

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like, I've never been really intohorror, Like, what where should I
start? Would you say to startwith the classics or is there a particular
film you would say, all right, you've never been into horror, you
want to give it a go becauseyou have a Kyle or a Valerie.
Again, where would you start themoff? I don't know. I guess
I would start. I will startwith the I guess I would start with

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the classics first. You know,I would just have it would have to
be curated a little bit, becauseit's like, you know, Nightmare on
Elm Street, like one, twoand three are great, but for five,
six and whatever else, you don'tgo to the the first Friday thirteenth
is not entertaining to me at all. But two and three are pretty decent
in my opinion. Uh, theonly two Halloweens that are worth anything are

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one and two, at least inmy personal opinion. You didn't like three
at all. Season of the Witchthree? No, no, you know,
but if I guess, if they'relike serious about serious war. But
if they're not serious, then Iwould start them off with something like Ghost
of Mars, which a lot ofpeople hate, but it's fun. That's

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John Carpenter, right, yeah,yeah, yeah, with ice Cube like
go so Mars, like the firstResident Evil movie Sean of the Dead,
like I will start them off withstuff like that, that's more, that's
a little action heavy, so itcould distract them from like being like terrified.

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Yeah, you know, there arelevels. There are levels to it,
you know. I might even suggestlike the Blair Witch Project, which
it's mostly boring and not much happens, so it's like, if you want
to really be eased in, youknow, here are these these things you
should sort of go buy. Allright, yeah, finally, and I

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think you and I talked about thisoffline last time. But under representation in
Hollywood, which can never you know, I want to say, as as
somebody who is not underrepresented in Hollywoodthat I feel like we're moving in a
direction where it's becoming less of aproblem as it was, you know,

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even ten years ago. But youhave people like the incredible Jordan Peele,
who's one of my favorites ever,who was bringing up voices like Nia da
Costa. Thank you Nia da Costafor doing her version of Candy Man.
Do you think that we are gettingbetter in that aspect of horror? I

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think horror is one of the mostflexible genres to exist. It's cheap to
make horror films. Relatively, itis kinder to women and people of color.
It is full of or it canbe full of social commentary, and
it's flexible enough to examine some ofthese things within the genre. And that's

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why so many you see so manyblack women writing and directing horror. You
have, you know, you haveMariyamadallo who created Master for Amazon. You
have Nia DaCosta with Candy Man.You have Nanny. She wrote and directed
Nanny, which is also on Amazon. Her name is Yahtu Jusu. She

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directed and wrote this sort of horrorfilm based in African folklore. And you
have Jordan Peel, who is whosebudgets get bigger and whose stories get better?
You know. Us was pretty divisive, but I enjoyed it. I
didn't love Nope at first, butupon a second watch, I really dug

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it and really liked it. AndI just think that it's just one of
those genres that is really easy tobreak into, like I, you know,
as long as it's cheap, likeI've written, I have horror scripts
that I've written, even though theirideas are a little bit more out there,
you know. And I've had peopletell me, well, this sounds
so expensive. It's good but expensive. You know, I think that it's

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one of the great ways that onecould break in absolutely. I mean,
look at Megan. Megan was bya black woman, and I believe Malignant
was that James I Malignant? AYes, Aquila Cooper is doing a lot
of great, you know, horrorthings, and she's writing she's writing Megan

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two point zero, which you know, it was a big hit. She
did write Malignant. She wrote Malignant, which she wrote it's so good.
She wrote the Nun too. Soyou see, it's just like, you
know, I have friends that haveblack women who have written horror Run Sweetheart,
Run other Amazon horror film that waswritten by a friend of mine,

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and so it's just it's just soeasy and even in a way to explore
like queerness. Yeah, a lotof queer, like a lot of horror
has always been queer, but nowit can be over as opposed to cobt
like and she could just be straightout like you have Fear Street, you
know, yes, films, butthey existence or of of an intersection of

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queerness and horror. And you havefilms like Nice Plu's Heart and different other
films that explore that aspect of whatit means to be a queer person,
on what it means to be transand so there's that. I love that
we have one minute and forty fiveseconds left. I could continue to talk
to you forever about this, Icould continue to talk to you forever about

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all things, because you are soawesome. But I want to thank you,
Valerie. You are absolutely amazing.I can't wait for you to come
back. I love talking with youin general and especially about my favorite genre.
Thank you so much. Where caneverybody find you? Everybody can find
me on Instagram at Valerie Underscore Complexnumber two. You contact me via my

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website, which is Valerie coomplex dotcom. I also have a podcast that
Deadline called the Scene to Scene Podcast, where I talk to people from all
facets of the industry about you know, personal topics, some of their favorite
things in the business, and whatit's like to work on you know,
their specified projects. And you cancheck that out also on iHeartRadio, Apple

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and Spotify. Sweet, we willhave all the links come back again very
soon. Please, Oh yes,I definitely will. I want to see
if I can come back in December, because I think Christmas is like a
really interesting time. Awesome. Let'sdo it to talk about certain things.
Sweet, So thank you for havingme on. I really appreciate it.
Thank you do finally, I know. Thank you so much. VI,

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take care you too. Bye byebye, Valerie Complex. I love her.
I love discussing film with her andgenres and all the things. You
can get all Valerie complex goodness atvaleriecomplex dot com and you can follow her
socials and contact her theirs here reviewsand interviews. She's awesome. Can't wait

(33:57):
to have her back Deadline all right. Next up, we have my interview
for twenty twenty three with Lovecraft abouttheir brand new album V So. I'm
really stoked about that. I've heardthe album. It's amazing and they are
the music taste makers for the Halloweenseason and spooky season all year long.

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So let's just get right into it, Lovecraft. So I am here once
again. I love the I lovethis act. I love everything you guys
do. I am here with AmandaM and d r Aka deep cuts from
Lovecraft. Thank you so much forspeaking with me. Oh my gosh,

(34:45):
thank you so much for having usback on Pop Culture Weekly. Of course,
I've got to tell you so there'smany songs that I listened to by
you guys obviously throughout the year,but one in particular is uh maybe the
Resido. I love that so yes, it is so good. It is

(35:10):
literally on my Apple Music Replay twentytwenty three already for my most laid songs
so far for the year. Ilove it so much, Oh my god,
thank you so much. You knowthat's like that's from our Dias deelos
Martos. I think that's EP one. Hmm. So we have an EP
one and an EP does and it'sand it was written by the Fears Latin

(35:37):
ex artists Kat Dahlia aka Devil Dahliain the in the Lovecraft Spooky Verse.
So I'm so glad we're actually doinglike a big activation this year around our
our Das deelos Martos records, becauseyou know, as that day is November
first, and we're spooky never sleeps. Yeah, gotta keep it going.

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Absolutely. I love it, andit's just so catchy. Maybe it's just
in the production on it. It'sso good. I love it. I
love that you love that because Ilove it and people, you know,
we're we're located in Los Angeles,Southern California, and it's really great to
to share you know, Spanish speakinglike records in the spooky world with the

(36:22):
whole LATINX community. It's just awesome. Yeah, you really keeps it up
spooky for sure. Absolutely, andany any any instance, any of you
know, chance to keep the spookygoing all year is good for me and
you guys. Yeah, no,we love it. I mean it really

(36:43):
bridges us right into hell for theholidays, really spooky Christmas or spooky holiday
music. So yeah, I loveit, love it. Yeah. So
well, and speaking of music,you guys have a new album out right
now called V that just came out. Tell me about that. Oh my

(37:06):
gosh. So you know last year'sScream Warriors like just was and that was
our album four with Christopher Young madethe scariest album ever made. And we
had so much fun doing that andit was so amazing. It was just
an immersive album. We love immersiveeverything in the horror spooky culture space,
like from haunts to immersive theater toyou know, everything, So to honor

(37:31):
that we did that. But nowthen we were like, what's you know,
what are we gonna do next year? And I was like, you
know what I love Found Footage Tour. I love it too, I really
do. I really, really reallylike Blair Witch. I was like right
in the midst of like high schooland that you know, dropped and it

(37:52):
blew all of our minds. Yeah, you know, and a true,
real original scare. And then ofcourse like all the paranormal franchise VHS everything
like that. So we wanted tohonor that genre of horror with creating an
album based on our lore. Ifif all of you to New Lovecraft Spooky

(38:15):
Freaks as we call our fans wecall spooky Freaks, if you've been with
us from from day one, you'llknow that their story arcs going with all
of our characters. If you're new, just go to lvcrft dot net and
go to the epitaphs of the SpookyFreaks and you'll you'll learn more about our
lore. I digress, but wewant also wanted to make like a retro

(38:39):
spooky album, so we thought,like, why don't we tie in the
lore of Lovecraft from where part ofSkeleton Sam's lore into this album with found
Audio, So that's was the inspiration. And then just to like like totally

(39:00):
plaster the wall with blood and gutsand spooky bops. So that was five.
That is five? YEA love it? Yeah? It is such an
awesome album. And is that howyou pronounced it? Is it five or
V V V either one? Likeprobably you know, and it is a
nod to those of us I grewup in the eighties. If anyone remembers
V the V people. Do youremember the mini series? Oh my god,

(39:22):
okay, is that Aliens? It'slike alien people? Okay, I
do, I do? I do? I do? Yeah, because that
like tortured me when I was well, I was like a kid, Christy
ali was It was like such acrazy mini series. All right, So
I gotta look. I gotta checkinto it thing because I do. I
do vaguely remember. Weren't they didn'tthey have like it was like masks or

(39:45):
something total they live kind of plot. Okay, all right, I'm definitely
gonna have to check that one out. Then there's yeah V so there,
I uh. There's so many greatsongs in this. One of my faves

(40:05):
is bad Witches, which is abop, a spooky bop. Tell me
about that one. How we arelike over one hundred songs deep into making
spooky music. Okay, and wesometimes we laugh that we haven't written Bad
Witches. Yeah right, yeah,And that was one that our iconic evil

(40:30):
McQueen aka the legendary songwriter and architectfor for modern pop music, Bonnie McKey,
yes, yes, who For yourlisteners, Fannie me key is an
artist songwriter who who wrote most ofKatie Perry's Teenage Dreams album, but many
of her hits and a million otherhits. She's she's just such a talented

(40:52):
musician and songwriter and she's part ofour Slashers and and uh yeah, and
it's like a Bonnie McCree witchcrafted hit, Bad Witches. Yeah, it's so
cool. And every day is Halloweenis another highlight for me. How did
that one come? That's my favorite? Yeah? Yeah, I had nothing
to do with that. So,so for your listeners, when we make

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the album, you know, inJanuary and sometimes in November, we bring
everyone together for a week or two, all the Slashers, and we run
like two rooms, two production roomsin the same space, and so there's
a little tiny spooky competition's going.And when I heard that one, I

(41:37):
was like, ugh, you didit again, a little pumpkins. So
it's I think that's interesting that youdo the kind of writer's rooms. It's
almost reminds me of a spooky Fleetwoodmac Ish thing where you have you know,
various singers and songwriters and producers.Obviously it's a little bit more expanded

(42:00):
with you guys, but I thinkthat's super interesting. And actually, you
know, it was one of thethings I was going to ask you is
how do you you know, youhave so many talented artist You have the
core of you guys, but thenyou have your uh slashers or whatever in
like this spooky verse. How doyou choose we need to work with this
person or how does that happen?Yeah, so honestly, we we bring

(42:22):
it so just you know, foryour spooky listeners, it's uh, we
have a core group of creators.There's about five of us that work every
year on the album, five tosix, depending if people are touring,
et cetera. So and then throughoutthe year we're all working in what I
call non spooky music, which isless fun. I'll just say no,

(42:46):
we love it. We love makingmusic and we feel we feel honored we
get to do it every day.But so we're working on people, you
know, artists, that are signedto labels of working on their albums as
producer songwriters, and you know thosespaces are can me intimate, people are
telling each other what they're into,relationships, et cetera. And then you'll

(43:06):
find out like, oh, wegot a lot of horror freaks that our
musicians, and so you know it, it's it's definitely natural. And then
will the founders Punkin Crates and Iwill call each other and be like I
just had a session with so andso and they're absolute freaks for everything spooky.

(43:27):
Let's bring them in next year.So that's generally how how how we
add to our slashers. I lovethat and so it's very organic and how
it happens. Yeah, and andit does just go to show everyone like
people love spooky culture. Yes,they just love it. They love it.
It's fun, it's exciting. Idon't know what what it is.

(43:51):
I mean, I know I justlove it. But if you could if
I could say, with a therapistto tap it out, you know,
Yeah, it's funny that you saythat about a therapy is because my therapist
once said to me before she escaped, was she and she actually retired,
but she said, you know,I could do a whole book on you
on how you have you know,fear of flying and you know, you

(44:15):
have all this anxiety and then youlove going to haunted houses and you love
horror movies and you love Halloween.Like She's like, there's something there that
you know needs to be explored.And I'm like, I don't know if
that's a compliment. I don't thinkit's a compliment, but thank you.
And if you do do a bookon it, please just you know,
send me a little something. Butbut it is super interesting, how you

(44:37):
know, it really does being inyou know, the spooky world. I
have so many friends that are youknow, fellow spooky people. And it's
like, you know, there's afamily lawyer that is a friend of mine
that is super into it and worksat fright Land for fun. I mean

(45:00):
obviously you know they pay her,but she but she does it. She's
like, that's my distressing and Ican be my character and blah blah blah.
And it's just it runs the gamutof you know, everybody I haven't
really found because you typically think stereotypically, you know, it's like just goth
kids or something, but it's not. I mean, it's like really,

(45:20):
you know, there's hidden spooky freaksall over the world, and you know,
guys reach out. I love thespooky community. Yeah, use it
our music, make content, welovecrap, we we we cheer you on
and I know pop culture weekly,I know you do. Absolutely. It's
yeah, I think there's a realyou know, I've talked to some of
my spooky community about it, becauseI would say all of us are have

(45:45):
diagnosed PTSD or anxiety. I knowI do disorders, you know, diagnosed
et cetera. And I and Ialso find this community. You know,
I've been in many different creative communitiesthroughout my life as a creative. Always
think I'm kind of boring, likeone of my people I grew up with,
Like what do you do? I'mlike making music. Yeah, I'm

(46:06):
kind of a one notre and uhyeah. We talked about it at link
and and I think it's our abilityto face our fears and and and to
see those through. I think there'sreally like something in there because it and
also I noticed the spooky community isquite an empathetic and caring and creative community.
Yeah yeah, which is uh.Also, I think people wouldn't expect

(46:30):
that for sure, for sure,and it really is a you know,
I find it very I was doingan interview yesterday with friend of mine who
she specializes in horror and sci fiwith Deadline and uh and she you know
does Yeah, they're amazing, andshe she was telling me, you know,

(46:52):
we were discussing about how forward thinkingit really is where you know,
traditional Hollywood in many respects, especiallyin film and television, is often afraid
to bring on a showrunner or directoror writer or whatever that is a person
of color or LGBTQ or whatever.Horror has always kind of been a place

(47:15):
where has been accepting and pushing theboundaries for the general population in underrepresented communities
as well. So I find notjust is it the people that are so
empathetic, you know, with allof our fellow disorders and stuff, but

(47:35):
it's also very much a come asyou are community. You know, whatever
you are, as you are,we love and accept you. And I
think that's so awesome, you know, It's a thing that I'm proud of
being that community for. Yeah,me me as well, because I think,
like like horror has always been aspace an outsider art form, you

(47:57):
know, from film to music,everything and in the culture, celebrating the
culture, and and it celebrates theother. And when you think of like,
you know, uh, the successof Romero and in the zombie films
and just self funding those and andthe social commentary of those of those movies,
and and and it's definitely been aspace for for women and not male

(48:19):
creators to to to like soar,you know. And now we're getting to
a space I feel I've and obviouslycreator creators of color. It's in in
the queer community. And now I'mhoping we get to the space where we're
gonna start seeing more of the uhoscars and more like the awards area giving

(48:43):
the acknowledgement. And like me,I'm still amazed at Miya Gothta not receive
at the very least nomination. Yeah, yeah, yeah, And but I
think exactly, And but I thinkthat things like Lovecraft and films, you
know, creators like and Peel inthe film and television world are you know,
look at the look at the businessof the box office to this day,

(49:07):
so many you know, analysts andstudio heads, you know, they
kind of don't count horror. Andthen they get this big explosion of a
popular horror film and they're like,oh, how did that happen? Well,
if you haven't noticed, it happenslike four or five times a year,
you know what I mean. It'sit's not a it's not an underdog

(49:28):
anymore. In many times, inmany seasons, I should say, it
is carrying the box office. Whenyou have a you know, a five
million dollar film go on and grossone hundred million dollars, like, you
know, take note of that atthis point, you know what I'm saying.
Yeah, they're doing another another runof Terrifier too, through through the
theaters to mainstream theaters again, yes, you know, And yeah, that's

(49:52):
what I mean. To me,it's really the that you know, that's
holding the box office up. Thereare the superhero Marvel and DC and horror.
Yeah, and and I don't thinkwe're just in a horror We're in
a horror renaissance. But I don'tthink it's going anywhere, Like it's not
going to be that like oh,we had the eighties era and then we
had like a nineties era. Ijust like here and to me, the

(50:16):
generally be like, no, it'sgoing to get bad, But to me,
the quality has just gotten better andbetter with like focus and you know,
and for more of the indie horrorfilm lovers like are starting to really
see some amazing horror films coming outand absolutely Australian horror never disappoints me.
Yeah, oh yeah, oh yeahto me really blew my mind. Oh

(50:37):
my god, that was so amazing. It was so good. I texted
all my spooky friends. I waslike, what are you doing right now?
What you know we're laughing, youknow, everyone's making those spooky jokes.
I was like, to drop whatyou're doing, drop your knives,
run to the movie theater. SoI told everyone to know. I was
like, do not walk, runit is Oh my god, it's so

(50:58):
good. It is so good andterrifier too. By the way, was
filmed mostly at Fright Factory in Philadelphia, which would be on the tour that
I uh that I'm determined to setup for you guys, but uh yeah,
I absolutely, And you know,there's just it's just such a creative
community and you guys are just anextension of that. I'm so glad that

(51:22):
there are powerful voices in the musicindustry who are saying, you know what,
I'm gonna let my spooky freak flagfly and we're gonna be use our
talents to do this at a biglevel. And it's it's you know,
it's huge. You guys last yearwere everywhere in the Halloween season and now

(51:43):
it's happening again. It's just awesome. When when you started this how many
what four or five years ago,did you ever expect it to get to
this level? No. I didn'texpect it to become like essentially what what
in the industry you call it anartist project like four and facing going to
events, playing, But I didn'texpect that. I expected it to like

(52:07):
our goal was to make like anevergreen Halloween song and you know, just
as like a freaky factoid for theaudience. I want everyone to know.
And we died as as the founders. We had never written a song with
the title with Halloween and the titleuntil album V right right, I noticed

(52:27):
that we have three. Anyways,we just to this day the irony of
that is like really funny to me, but yeah, and I would say,
like our publishers and our managers werelike, what are you doing here?
Shime on this? And I waslike, I was like, do
you see how many? You know? And we just kind of did listen

(52:51):
as artists do. We don't listento anyone, right and now now to
really be a part of seeing thisgrow, I mean it's not just us
like our projects has grown, butspooky. I just call it spooky because
it's so much bigger than Halloween.No. That to watch that grow and
to be a part of that hasbeen like really really really really fun.

(53:16):
Yeah, I mean it's fun,well even to watch it as somebody that
is a spooky person and a musiclover, you know. I mean I
think I told you I used tobe signed with Warner out of high school
and and so like from all sides, it's just like, from all sides,
I'm so happy for you guys.I mean, you were a literally

(53:39):
a g Grammy winning creator, artist, writer, producer, and you are
as you mentioned probably to you know, your publishers. Horror at first,
no pun intended. Are using thatpower and that name and that talent to

(54:00):
say, you know what, thisis important to me and I want to
do it, and then it blewup, you know what I mean.
Yeah, it's it's rare. AndI'll tell you, like five years ago,
I think when we would when youknow, I take meetings because I
I'm an artist in the non spookyworld known as M and D R and
like like an electro pop artist,and but I also work as a songwriter

(54:27):
and producer. So when I'm takingmeetings with A and r's asking you what
you're up to, you and you'relike, oh, yeah, I started
this. This I co founded withwith Evan Bogart and Peter Wada love Craft.
We make like new Halloween music kindof rolled their eyes right. And
now what we've found so interesting isnow the majors are signing artists whose entire

(54:52):
brands are spooky wow, blood Nymph. There's a whole skin and we're working
with all of them, which isso ex That is really cool. We
want to work, you know,we don't want to take all our spooky
toys and not share. We're like, awesome, like more the merrier,
like let's work together. Absolutely,it's been fun. That That is really

(55:13):
cool. And you know, Ilove that angle and it's really in my
opinion, you guys have opened thedoors for that because I mean, look
at you know, you had oneof the most streamed songs last year during
all of spooky season. Uh,and that for me has become, and

(55:34):
I think for the culture now isgoing to be one of those you know
Mariah who you know again, don'tfall out yet, but but I think
it's going to be one of thosethings like the like all I want for
Christmas for for Spooky Season, whereit's gonna be one of those songs every
year that forever is going to beassociated with spooky season. And I love

(55:57):
that, you know, I lovethat so much. That was our goal
and and here's a freaky factoid onthat song Skeleton Sam, which I believe
you're talking about. Yeah, oh, I didn't even say it. Yeah,
yeah, was the okay we're audience, We're album V We're five albums
and over one hundred songs written aboutspooky everything spooky, And that was the

(56:23):
very first song that was written.I just find that so and again I
had nothing to do. That wasin the other room. But but we
were doing a wu which is oursecond biggest record, yeah, yeah,
and on on streaming platforms, streamingplatforms, and in our goal was like

(56:45):
we wanted to be part of likespooky culture the way Ghostbusters, thriller,
Monster mash. That was our goal. And to reach that was like spooky
tears yea. And to see itgrow and this year has been like to
see how people how people use thatthat song and in their creations has been

(57:06):
really really humbling. Yeah. Imean TikTok has flooded with it all,
you know, and has been fora month. Uh and and we're not
even into peak spooky spooky season yet, you know. So, so it's
just it's so awesome to see allof you know, to see all of
this come come together. What whatare you guys doing show wise? You

(57:30):
did some interesting things last year.Uh, any things that we can look
forward to this year? Yeah?So okay, so this year right now
along with Skeleton Sam that was hada great placement. It's been in Hubie
Halloween. It was re lyric forthis season for the season bumpers of the

(57:52):
Chilean Rents of Sabrina, which wasa great lift for it, but it
wasn't that version. They asked usto relyric to fit the narrative of that
series, which was awesome. Andthat's version is called Straight to Hell,
which I did have a part ofsongwriters just let you swooky audience. No

(58:14):
songwriters and producers. We're just alittle competitive it's freaky fun, competitive,
but we always want to have thebig one. But we're happy that all
the all of us are right,I have one. So now you know
we didn't have because we were inthe shadows. You know, we wanted

(58:34):
this project to to We didn't expectit to need to have a forward facing
brand character. So none of uswants to do that, and so we
conjured up what I call my Eddiefrom from Iron Maiden, Skeleton Sam.

(58:55):
He's a he's a high red ofRob Halford and Eddie for me with a
pop angle and Skeleton Sam took offas a character. Yeah, so now
you know our live activations this season, he's getting asked to do media nights
and come to independent Haunts to alot to We are every night in Long

(59:22):
Beach running the entertainment for Shaktoberfest,which is an amazing event. We run
the block party stage with our DJReaper and Skeleton Salmon's there every night.
There's Haunts, it's Shaktoberfest is myone of my favorite events to go to
in southern California because there's nothing elselike it. There's a fair, there's

(59:46):
mazes, there's a bar, there'sa dancing area. There's an and really
ages from little to to you know, late night. It's very cool,
very cool experience. But it's beenvery fun and to celebrate lovecraft. Skeleton
Sam in Detroit this year at Hushwe opened up there Haunted Media Night,

(01:00:08):
and he's actually there as well,every every night there open this season,
Skeleton Sam is multiplied. He's beenon tour. We've been in Sacramento,
Sacramento's Screamfest that Haunt and also we'vegot been to San Francisco for Terrible the

(01:00:30):
Initiation, which is a nightlife immersiveevent with a vampire bar that is the
brainchild of the iconic queen herself,Peaches Christ. Awesome. Yeah, so
it has been one busy season thatis awesome. And then then are you

(01:00:53):
you know, we come to Halloweenand and then at least for me and
I'm sure for you too, Likeyou know, first week in November,
I start kind of getting down becauseI'm like, eh, you know,
like and then it gets at leaston the East Coast, it gets darker
early, darker, earlier. It'slike four o'clock and it's dark, and
I'm just I feel like I likego into hibernation and then uh, but

(01:01:16):
you guys start either working on oror planning or all of the above for
the next project, right Yeah,on November two, we do a postpartum
meeting. We've already have album sixscheduled in the calendars for the for the
slashers and the creators, and we'regonna be diving right into the next body

(01:01:39):
of work and before the end ofthe year. Don't think that the holiday
season Christmas, New Years Han huhkwansa can't be spooky, right, So
get ready for for our Hell forthe Holidays EPs coming out with brand new
Last year we did well. Ourfirst spooky holiday song was Naughty and Nice

(01:02:05):
and we have a new version ofthat which we're excited about. And then
we have All I Want for ChristmasIs Boo, which came out last year.
And then this year we have abrand new song which we're very excited
about. So we'll be keeping thebops going and obviously no member. First,

(01:02:25):
we're selling Celebrating Das Dayley smrshals withtheir entire lad Nex community here and
with our EPs one in Dose youKnow and Dose and those are available on
all streaming platforms. But if you'rewatching right now on our social media,

(01:02:45):
we've also dove into storytelling and totell our origin more. Yes, that's
been really fun to watch. Okayhave you been watching I have? Yes,
okay, okay, yes, okay, and so and we'll have all
the links up for everybody as well. But it is it is uh,

(01:03:06):
I love the the universe, youknow what I'm saying, the immersiveness.
Yeah. So we this year areare rolling out in a twenty part series
on our social media, a shortfilm diving into the origin of Really Skeleton
Sam and the Spooky Freaks. Soit is really freaking I'm on part thirteen.

(01:03:30):
It's very easy to find the partsand those of you, uh,
you know, spooky freaks out thereif you're someone like me that loves horror
talk, Hashei horror Talk, Hashihorror Reels. There's a lot of great
like short films, horror films thatare being you know, run out on

(01:03:50):
and on these platforms in parts rightright, So we are also doing that
this year to celebrate V and totell the story of V and to tell
the whole spooky verse of Lovecraft.So totally worth watching. It is on
Instagram, YouTube shorts, on ourYouTube channel and of course TikTok and it's

(01:04:15):
getting really freaky. And we wereable to use with the awesomeness of our
partner's thirteenth Floor, who Run,Who Run, Shaktoberfest and Ellie he On
a hay Ride and Delusion, whichis an amazing immersive experience here in Los
Angeles. We were able to doa lot of filming at a very creepy

(01:04:39):
place in Pomona, California. Soif you're like, what is going on,
just know that that was a specialtreat and it was legitimately haunted.
Wow. And a lot of thatfootage was haunted. Oh wow. Okay,
yeah, all right, I lovethat. And then I want to

(01:04:59):
see you guys is at like transWorld in Saint Louis you know I'm talking
about absolutely. We have plans tobe there this year. Do you all
right? We are having lunch ordinner or drinks or something. So great
to know you'll be there, yes, yeah, it is. Uh so
this will be your first time,right where have you been there? I

(01:05:24):
haven't been there. Norman Crates wentone year just to like check it out,
see what it's all about. Butwe will be there as Lovecraft this
year. Oh awesome. Okay,now I'm super duper excited. Yeah,
you guys have to be there.Every Haunt owner in the country is there,
and buyers and all kinds. I'mexcited for you guys, and I'm

(01:05:46):
excited for me to to see youguys together finally in person. So that's
awesome. That'll be I think it'sFebruary or March. I can't remember the
dates, but awesome. Yeah,and uh, and then you know,
we'll be keeping on top of allof love Craft's awesome stuff throughout the year,

(01:06:09):
keeping us going because you know,like you said, you know,
spooky seas, spooky season never dies, you know what I mean. No,
it's spooky try for seven and Ilove it. I love it like
people can't believe how into it we'reI'm home crafting, I'm uh, you
know, decorating, throwing, throwingI with I have a toddler, so

(01:06:30):
we're throwing kid parties, and Imean, we're just all about it.
It isn't uh. It definitely isa labor of freaky love. And we're
just so excited that we have peoplelike you that want to celebrate what we're
doing. We're so grateful for that. Of course, we absolutely love it.
Of course of course, and I'mright there with you, Amanda.

(01:06:55):
Thank you so much. Love Craft. We'll have all of the uh cool
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