April 15, 2024 • 10 mins
First, we once again enjoy the moment when an NBA star gives the crowd what they want. Next, a CNN commentator goes unchecked after her comments about The OJ trail and race.
See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Mark as Played
Transcript
Episode Transcript
Available transcripts are automatically generated. Complete accuracy is not guaranteed.
Speaker 1 (00:00):
The non sports end of sports. It's one more thing.
I'm strong and getty one more thing. We got a
couple of sports things that aren't really about the play
on the field really so much. So this first one
is an actual game. It's a Houston Rockets at the
LA Clippers, and there's some sort of chicken promotion going
(00:23):
on where if people miss free throws, everybody gets chicken
or something. Yeah, it's a fourth quarter.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
I've seen it a couple of times. If the opponent
misses two free throws in a row, everybody gets, you know,
free tacos, free chicken, whatever.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
So since you can't see it, so the guy for
the Houston Rockets again, he's on the road, he's at
the Clippers game, and he gives the opposing team's crowd
some free chicken. He misses the free throws on purpose,
I guess. So anyway, this is what it sounded like.
Beasts of free chicken on the board if he misses
the second free throw, man free scheeper on the board.
So I's why the fans are getting a little real
(00:57):
flothy the crowds. You want chicken, here's your chu. He's
a man of the people, he's a man of the
pre perfect he did. He came off pret chicken. That
is I heard less excited they won.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
They won.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
That was so awesome. I like the player did it.
Way the announcers handled it is that the Clippers home announcers,
they got good announcers. That was awesome.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
I love it when they make non sports moments the highlights.
It's like when that that fan broke onto the field
during the Niners guy game.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Guy is drunk.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
There he goes, Kevin Harlan, the legendary call. Yeah, what
about the sanctity of the game. Jack intentionally missing a
free throw? I don't approve.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
I'm surprised there hasn't been somebody. I mean, because there's
a betting line on every game, and missing a shot
on purpose, I don't know if that affected anything. Because
he's a man of the people. He gave him chicken.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
I tell you what the Clippers fan base is going
to be, you know, campaigning to get this guy traded
to LA.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
So I just gone Marjanovitch. I just looked up at
the TV and they're still doing a little OJ coverage
several days after he died. I wasn't here on Friday
because I was sick, so I didn't get to talk
about this much. The one question I had is we'll
never know whether he knew he killed those people or not.
I've always wondered it was he crazy or just a
(02:28):
really skilled wire. Michael, where are you on that? I
agree with Joe.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
I think he snapped.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
I think he did it, and I think he had
a psychological break.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
At what point did he snap If he ran and
was sitting there with a gun to his head when
he found out they were going to arrest him, you know,
if you didn't think you did it.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
I wish we had like a clinical psychologist to talk
to about that, because it could be that he had
what they call a psychic break, a complete breakdown, and
his brain wasn't working at all.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
I got to jump in the last time I said that,
we got a text from somebody who said, it's a
psychotic break. A psychic break is when your local psychic
goes up behind and has a smoke between doing palm reading.
That's one of my favorite texts of all time.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
You're quite right, thank you for the correction.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
A psychotic break.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
But in the midst of the crumbling of his not
terribly sharp mind, anyway. Could it have included a gun
and a beard and money and just bizarre behavior of
various sorts. Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
It's like we've said many times, trying.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
To put a a logical explanation to insanity is a
difficult thing.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Hanson, where are you in this? Did he know he
killed those people? Or did he convince himself he didn't?
He says it's a tough one. Yeah, pick one. Anybody
can say it's a tough one. He knew. Hanson says
he knew.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Well, yeah, he knew until his mind broke. That's mine
point of view.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Could it be kind of like an Aaron Rodgers situation
where it was that CTE from getting hit while he
was playing and that caused him to snap?
Speaker 1 (04:10):
You think that's funny. I don't think anybody ever brought
up CTE with OJ, did they?
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Well, that was just the things that was going around.
Why they wanted to examine his brain all right, right, right.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Right instead of just having it cremated. But yeah, don't,
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Oh, here's Hanson's theory, our executive producer that OJ that
night was coked out of his gourd and just kind
of it's all, you know, it might not be really
clear to him even if he didn't.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Boy, And if you are completely unable to accept something
you have done, which I've not been in that position,
I've heard it exists and you are wasted, so your
whole recollection of it is very murky. I can absolutely
sure see how you'd get to the point where you
would think, no, I didn't do that. I couldn't do that,
(04:57):
but possible never do.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Yeah, the human mind sometimes ignores trauma is just a
self protection thing, like to keep you alive. You couldn't
you couldn't live otherwise. I won't use examples i've heard of,
but yeah, maybe his brain was just protecting him from you.
You can't survive dealing with this, so we're just gonna
push it out of your head. Ah. The town I
(05:23):
live in has a psychic and I've lived in that
same town now for twenty some years. And it's a
tiny little shack and it says I've never been in there,
and it says psychic on it, and it's always open,
and I don't know what the taking a psychic break,
going out for a smoke or whatever, but I don't know.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
It's a funny joke is that the one you can
kind of see from the interstate.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
I don't know if you can can or not, but anyway,
I've just I've always still in business, like must be
a profitable business.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
I just read something over the weekend where somebody was
talking quite seriously about how a fortune teller had told
them something and now they realize, oh, that's what they meant.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Katie, when you were doing morning radio or whatever, did
you ever have a psychic on We did a couple
of times. Yeah, and we did too, and we stopped
doing it because we realized it was just taking advantage
of sad people. That is where I have a really
big issue.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Someone very very close to me lost someone and went
to a psychic and recorded it and let me listen back.
And I was infuriated by the end of it.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Because it was just bait.
Speaker 5 (06:19):
It was baiting the entire time. Oh right, and then
there's just a lot of your your mom. Your mom
is talking right now, and she and she just wants
you to know that she loves you and she's sorry
for some of the things she did. She knows she
disappointed you, but she's sorry for those things. But she's happy,
you know.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Just normal. Yeah, stop, And it's just horrible to play
on people's emotions like that.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Yes, no, I am not cool with that profession. I mean,
to each their own, but I don't like that at all.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Yeah yeah, all right, Ah, so back to OJ hacking
people up, which is more pleasant? Fair? Just a couple
of more details of the aftermath. Let's run clip number
twenty five, Michael, I think it's self explanatory.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
The executor of OJ Simpson's estate is vowing to fight
any effort by Ron Goldman's family to collect money from
their wrongful death judgment. Simpsons, who died Wednesday, was acquitted
in a criminal trial and the murders of Goldman and
Simpson's ex wife, Nicole, but he was found liable in
civil court in order to pay more than thirty three
million dollars to the families.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Well, I'm sure they're going to fight it, but I
don't know how they can, right, I don't know enough
about that area of the law. Disgusting, all right, And
speaking of disgusting, I'm sorry you get more on that.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
What did I have on Ojay? One more thing? Oh
so I may have forgotten this too. He grew up
in San Francisco, which is why he ended up with
the forty nine ers there at the end of his career.
But he grew up in San Francisco in a really
bad neighborhood and was arrested multiple times before he went
off to college at USC. I had forgotten that.
Speaker 6 (07:57):
Now.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
I didn't look into what he was arrested for. Do
you know that. I don't know if it was just
the sort of stuff that you get arrested for if
you live in a bad neighborhood and doesn't mean anything,
or if he did have some you know, violent tendencies
that were clear.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Do you have anything on that, Katie. I remember learning
that at the time, but I haven't thought about it
for years.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
You know. And some of the violent stuff that it
was known we later found out that he did with
Nicole and probably other women throughout his life. In the
modern era, he wouldn't have been able to hide that.
I don't think I think that.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Yeah, he's absolutely a wife beater.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Yeah, yeah, I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
He joined a street gang called the Persian Warriors and
was briefly incarcerated at San Francisco Youth Guidance Center for
gang related incidents.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
That's all I see that can happen in any troubled neighborhood.
That doesn't necessarily predict you're going to be a double behead.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Or Persian warriors. So he was soft on Iran as well.
Exactly interesting, never ending, Speaking of horrific politics, this is
one Ashley Allison whose act I don't know. She was
on CNN twenty six, Michael.
Speaker 6 (08:58):
But it was so racial charged because of what had
happened just before with Rodney King, but also just how
Black Americans feel about policing. It's not like OJ Simpson
was the leader of the civil rights movement of his error.
You know, he wasn't a social justice leader, but he
represented something for the black community in that moment in
(09:19):
that trial, particularly because there were two white people who
had been killed, and the history around how black people
have been persecuted during slavery. There was just so many layers.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Okay, I was with you, Alfa told that last sentence, Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
The people of black people really related to him because
he killed white people because of slavery. He represented something
because he killed whitey whoa. Yeah, that actually aired on CNN.
K imagine and.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
He close to the opposite. Yeah, oh, boy man. Nobody
called her on it. I watched it. No, that's outrageous.
I mean the idea that a black, mostly black jury said,
you've been screwing us as long as I've lived in
la fe you and acquitted him. I perfectly get, and
I might have done the same thing. But the glad
(10:11):
he killed white people because of slavery. Nah, eh nah,
I ain't sick. That's a DT.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
I critical race theory racist.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
She's awful. I had completely forgotten because Joe and I
did a really big live event the day of the
verdict with hundreds of people in a room. But I
had completely forgotten that Oprah did that and the difference
in reaction between the white people and the crowd and
the black people in the crowd until I watched that
on Friday. That was uncomfortable. Yeah, yeah, no, kidding, sh Well,
(10:43):
I guess that's it.
The non sports end of sports. It's one more thing.
I'm strong and getty one more thing. We got a
couple of sports things that aren't really about the play
on the field really so much. So this first one
is an actual game. It's a Houston Rockets at the
LA Clippers, and there's some sort of chicken promotion going
(00:23):
on where if people miss free throws, everybody gets chicken
or something. Yeah, it's a fourth quarter.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
I've seen it a couple of times. If the opponent
misses two free throws in a row, everybody gets, you know,
free tacos, free chicken, whatever.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
So since you can't see it, so the guy for
the Houston Rockets again, he's on the road, he's at
the Clippers game, and he gives the opposing team's crowd
some free chicken. He misses the free throws on purpose,
I guess. So anyway, this is what it sounded like.
Beasts of free chicken on the board if he misses
the second free throw, man free scheeper on the board.
So I's why the fans are getting a little real
(00:57):
flothy the crowds. You want chicken, here's your chu. He's
a man of the people, he's a man of the
pre perfect he did. He came off pret chicken. That
is I heard less excited they won.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
They won.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
That was so awesome. I like the player did it.
Way the announcers handled it is that the Clippers home announcers,
they got good announcers. That was awesome.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
I love it when they make non sports moments the highlights.
It's like when that that fan broke onto the field
during the Niners guy game.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
Guy is drunk.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
There he goes, Kevin Harlan, the legendary call. Yeah, what
about the sanctity of the game. Jack intentionally missing a
free throw? I don't approve.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
I'm surprised there hasn't been somebody. I mean, because there's
a betting line on every game, and missing a shot
on purpose, I don't know if that affected anything. Because
he's a man of the people. He gave him chicken.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
I tell you what the Clippers fan base is going
to be, you know, campaigning to get this guy traded
to LA.
Speaker 1 (02:06):
So I just gone Marjanovitch. I just looked up at
the TV and they're still doing a little OJ coverage
several days after he died. I wasn't here on Friday
because I was sick, so I didn't get to talk
about this much. The one question I had is we'll
never know whether he knew he killed those people or not.
I've always wondered it was he crazy or just a
(02:28):
really skilled wire. Michael, where are you on that? I
agree with Joe.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
I think he snapped.
Speaker 4 (02:33):
I think he did it, and I think he had
a psychological break.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
At what point did he snap If he ran and
was sitting there with a gun to his head when
he found out they were going to arrest him, you know,
if you didn't think you did it.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
I wish we had like a clinical psychologist to talk
to about that, because it could be that he had
what they call a psychic break, a complete breakdown, and
his brain wasn't working at all.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
I got to jump in the last time I said that,
we got a text from somebody who said, it's a
psychotic break. A psychic break is when your local psychic
goes up behind and has a smoke between doing palm reading.
That's one of my favorite texts of all time.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
You're quite right, thank you for the correction.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
A psychotic break.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
But in the midst of the crumbling of his not
terribly sharp mind, anyway. Could it have included a gun
and a beard and money and just bizarre behavior of
various sorts. Yeah, I don't.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
It's like we've said many times, trying.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
To put a a logical explanation to insanity is a
difficult thing.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Hanson, where are you in this? Did he know he
killed those people? Or did he convince himself he didn't?
He says it's a tough one. Yeah, pick one. Anybody
can say it's a tough one. He knew. Hanson says
he knew.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Well, yeah, he knew until his mind broke. That's mine
point of view.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Could it be kind of like an Aaron Rodgers situation
where it was that CTE from getting hit while he
was playing and that caused him to snap?
Speaker 1 (04:10):
You think that's funny. I don't think anybody ever brought
up CTE with OJ, did they?
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Well, that was just the things that was going around.
Why they wanted to examine his brain all right, right, right.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
Right instead of just having it cremated. But yeah, don't,
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
Oh, here's Hanson's theory, our executive producer that OJ that
night was coked out of his gourd and just kind
of it's all, you know, it might not be really
clear to him even if he didn't.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Boy, And if you are completely unable to accept something
you have done, which I've not been in that position,
I've heard it exists and you are wasted, so your
whole recollection of it is very murky. I can absolutely
sure see how you'd get to the point where you
would think, no, I didn't do that. I couldn't do that,
(04:57):
but possible never do.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
Yeah, the human mind sometimes ignores trauma is just a
self protection thing, like to keep you alive. You couldn't
you couldn't live otherwise. I won't use examples i've heard of,
but yeah, maybe his brain was just protecting him from you.
You can't survive dealing with this, so we're just gonna
push it out of your head. Ah. The town I
(05:23):
live in has a psychic and I've lived in that
same town now for twenty some years. And it's a
tiny little shack and it says I've never been in there,
and it says psychic on it, and it's always open,
and I don't know what the taking a psychic break,
going out for a smoke or whatever, but I don't know.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
It's a funny joke is that the one you can
kind of see from the interstate.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
I don't know if you can can or not, but anyway,
I've just I've always still in business, like must be
a profitable business.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
I just read something over the weekend where somebody was
talking quite seriously about how a fortune teller had told
them something and now they realize, oh, that's what they meant.
Speaker 1 (05:56):
Katie, when you were doing morning radio or whatever, did
you ever have a psychic on We did a couple
of times. Yeah, and we did too, and we stopped
doing it because we realized it was just taking advantage
of sad people. That is where I have a really
big issue.
Speaker 3 (06:10):
Someone very very close to me lost someone and went
to a psychic and recorded it and let me listen back.
And I was infuriated by the end of it.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
Because it was just bait.
Speaker 5 (06:19):
It was baiting the entire time. Oh right, and then
there's just a lot of your your mom. Your mom
is talking right now, and she and she just wants
you to know that she loves you and she's sorry
for some of the things she did. She knows she
disappointed you, but she's sorry for those things. But she's happy,
you know.
Speaker 1 (06:35):
Just normal. Yeah, stop, And it's just horrible to play
on people's emotions like that.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Yes, no, I am not cool with that profession. I mean,
to each their own, but I don't like that at all.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Yeah yeah, all right, Ah, so back to OJ hacking
people up, which is more pleasant? Fair? Just a couple
of more details of the aftermath. Let's run clip number
twenty five, Michael, I think it's self explanatory.
Speaker 4 (07:03):
The executor of OJ Simpson's estate is vowing to fight
any effort by Ron Goldman's family to collect money from
their wrongful death judgment. Simpsons, who died Wednesday, was acquitted
in a criminal trial and the murders of Goldman and
Simpson's ex wife, Nicole, but he was found liable in
civil court in order to pay more than thirty three
million dollars to the families.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Well, I'm sure they're going to fight it, but I
don't know how they can, right, I don't know enough
about that area of the law. Disgusting, all right, And
speaking of disgusting, I'm sorry you get more on that.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
What did I have on Ojay? One more thing? Oh
so I may have forgotten this too. He grew up
in San Francisco, which is why he ended up with
the forty nine ers there at the end of his career.
But he grew up in San Francisco in a really
bad neighborhood and was arrested multiple times before he went
off to college at USC. I had forgotten that.
Speaker 6 (07:57):
Now.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
I didn't look into what he was arrested for. Do
you know that. I don't know if it was just
the sort of stuff that you get arrested for if
you live in a bad neighborhood and doesn't mean anything,
or if he did have some you know, violent tendencies
that were clear.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Do you have anything on that, Katie. I remember learning
that at the time, but I haven't thought about it
for years.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
You know. And some of the violent stuff that it
was known we later found out that he did with
Nicole and probably other women throughout his life. In the
modern era, he wouldn't have been able to hide that.
I don't think I think that.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
Yeah, he's absolutely a wife beater.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Yeah, yeah, I'm saying.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
He joined a street gang called the Persian Warriors and
was briefly incarcerated at San Francisco Youth Guidance Center for
gang related incidents.
Speaker 1 (08:39):
That's all I see that can happen in any troubled neighborhood.
That doesn't necessarily predict you're going to be a double behead.
Speaker 2 (08:44):
Or Persian warriors. So he was soft on Iran as well.
Exactly interesting, never ending, Speaking of horrific politics, this is
one Ashley Allison whose act I don't know. She was
on CNN twenty six, Michael.
Speaker 6 (08:58):
But it was so racial charged because of what had
happened just before with Rodney King, but also just how
Black Americans feel about policing. It's not like OJ Simpson
was the leader of the civil rights movement of his error.
You know, he wasn't a social justice leader, but he
represented something for the black community in that moment in
(09:19):
that trial, particularly because there were two white people who
had been killed, and the history around how black people
have been persecuted during slavery. There was just so many layers.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Okay, I was with you, Alfa told that last sentence, Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
The people of black people really related to him because
he killed white people because of slavery. He represented something
because he killed whitey whoa. Yeah, that actually aired on CNN.
K imagine and.
Speaker 1 (09:49):
He close to the opposite. Yeah, oh, boy man. Nobody
called her on it. I watched it. No, that's outrageous.
I mean the idea that a black, mostly black jury said,
you've been screwing us as long as I've lived in
la fe you and acquitted him. I perfectly get, and
I might have done the same thing. But the glad
(10:11):
he killed white people because of slavery. Nah, eh nah,
I ain't sick. That's a DT.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
I critical race theory racist.
Speaker 1 (10:19):
She's awful. I had completely forgotten because Joe and I
did a really big live event the day of the
verdict with hundreds of people in a room. But I
had completely forgotten that Oprah did that and the difference
in reaction between the white people and the crowd and
the black people in the crowd until I watched that
on Friday. That was uncomfortable. Yeah, yeah, no, kidding, sh Well,
(10:43):
I guess that's it.
Hosts And Creators
Joe Getty
Jack Armstrong
Popular Podcasts
On Purpose with Jay Shetty
I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!
Dateline NBC
Current and classic episodes, featuring compelling true-crime mysteries, powerful documentaries and in-depth investigations. Special Summer Offer: Exclusively on Apple Podcasts, try our Dateline Premium subscription completely free for one month! With Dateline Premium, you get every episode ad-free plus exclusive bonus content.
24/7 News: The Latest
The latest news in 4 minutes updated every hour, every day.