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Speaker 1 (00:00):
How do you get that far off track? It's one
more thing. So I am somewhat attracted to stories of
people blowing up their lives by wanting to not blow
up my life. I don't think it's all just like
schadenfreud or something like that. I don't want to blow
(00:21):
up my life. And whenever I read these stories of
people like often blowing up their lives, I think, how
did you can it happen to anybody where you ignore
reality and get this far off track. I'm using this
example Sam Bankman Freed might be one example, although he
probably thought at some point things were going to turn around, yeah,
(00:42):
and that he.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Could fix it. He can somehow cover the accounts, make
a billion more bucks, cover his bets, and then get
back to normal.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
This particular example I'm going to give is NFL star
in great inferior and NFL fan. You certainly know his name,
Bill Romanowski. We talked about him a lot here on
the Armstrong and Getty Show because he was a forty
niner and won Super Bowls, and then he played with
the Raiders and he won Super Bowls. He won four
Super Bowls. Bill Romanowski, and I remember when he was
featured on sixty minutes at one time about all the
(01:15):
people he had hurt and fingers he had broken, and
all the differences getting a pile for the ball and
he'd break people's fingers. He's a horrible human being.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
I remember him being a complete lunatic.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Yeah, but he was good and a lot of teams
wanted him, and he won a lot of Super Bowls.
Do you know the name, Katie or is he before
your time winning all these games?
Speaker 3 (01:34):
I actually know Bill. Oh, you know him personally? Yes? Okay.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
He used to do a weekly segment on a morning
show I was on when we worked with the station
for the Raiders, and I remember that.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Yeah, well you can weigh you know, if your personal
friends and you don't want to weigh in on this,
that's fine.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
He was as always, super nice guy. I agree, lunatic.
I don't know how he had that much energy.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
All the time. But he did a lot of various stimulants.
I mean, he did a lot of supplements to uh
to help him with it, because he admitted at the
end of his career to steroids and HGH and all
that sort of stuff, and a lot of steroids. Will
you know and get you pretty jazzed up too. He
also probably is a very successful NFL player, is probably
one of those good guys. It's got a real fast motor.
(02:20):
I'm the opposite. I got a really slow motor.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
My motor is super slow, guy, My motor.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Is very, very slow.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
But he and he walked like my grandfather used to.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
He just got uh, he got sued at the end
of his career because like he got in a fight
with the teammate and broke the guy's eye socket, ending
his career and had to pay the guy a whole
bunch of money.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
And he's he's right in the locker room.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Yeah, yeah, something completely Anyway, this is personal life stuff,
and this gets to my question is how do you
how do you not see this coming or how do
you let it go this far? So he and his wife, oh,
fifteen point five million dollars in back taxes. Too bad.
You can't pay that off with being tan, because he
and his wife are very very tan. If tan was
(03:04):
fungible like money, somehow maybe could pay it off. He
and his hot wife are so toued to be more tan.
Seminars made but anyway, tape series they had right, they
had a nutrition company that may or may not have
had stuff that actually did any good. But that's the
world of nutrition supplements, right, you know, buyer beware. I'm
(03:26):
not dogging him for that, but you're nodding your head.
You know something about this kiddie.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
Oh yeah, I tried him and used him. He was
that rick at the peak of that when he was
doing stuff with our shell They were good, they tasted good.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Yeah, and they might have actually been perfectly good fine,
but regardless, he wasn't paying his takes.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
Doubt it the contrarian unless it was just you know,
vitamins which won't hurt you, but it was it was
like a protein shake tasted fine.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Yeah, shake's a protein shake.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
I was just I have this tomorrow on the radio show.
I was just reading this thing about the supplement craze.
Supplements are hotter than ever, and they do seem to
be it because everything I bring up about anything, somebody
recommends a supplement to me, Oh, you're not taking enough
magnesium or whatever. And so it's just such a huge,
huge industry now and how much of it actually does
he any good for your anxiety or sleeping or you
(04:21):
can't get an erection or whatever the hell the problem is.
I don't know. Yes, you're shaking your head, Joe.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
I couldn't decide whether or make a joke or not
do it. No, now the moments passed, But so it
was disgusting but funny.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
What's interesting about Romanowski and is his very tan, attractive
wife owned fifteen point five million dollars in back taxes.
It looks like they were using money from the nutrition
company to live a crazy, high flying lifestyle, as often
happens with people like this bigger house than you can afford,
nicer cars, and you can afford better trips, jewelry, etc.
(04:59):
And that's my question of how people who do this?
Do you just think the bill's never gonna come do
or nobody's gonna catch on? I mean, because I assume
at many points you were getting letters from the irs
or some business manager was telling you or something that hey,
you know this, this this road doesn't go on forever.
(05:22):
And so what's what's in the what's the mindset if
somebody blows up their life like this? And I asked,
because I don't, I don't ever want to do that.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
I think there are some people who've done that, who
could give you a reasonably coherent answer. I think this
is straight out of the Department of There'd be nothing
more terrifying than to spend five minutes in somebody else's head.
And this is one of my favorite weird thought experiments
because you'd have to I mean certain people. You get
in there for like sixty seconds, and you'd be saying
(05:51):
the safe work, tomato, Tomato, get me out of here.
But you'd have to hold onto your own conscience or
consciousness rather as well. But I think what would be
terrifying about it if you could get into Bill Romanowski's
head as he's partying and enjoying his Caribbean mansion or
whatever he's doing, is the total lack of recognition of consequences.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
So if I got in his head, I'd be thinking, Hey,
why is nobody in here thinking about the fact that
we're at this point ten million dollars behind in our
Texas and we're still on a Caribbean vacation.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Yeah, I don't, I don't know. I can't imagine any
thought like Katie.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
No, I'm I'm along the lines of thinking he just
thought he was not going to get caught.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
That just seems crazy to me. I think one of
the pressures to do this. I guarantee one of the
pressures to do this that I don't have, for maybe
not even good reasons.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
I don't care.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
I mean, if if, like somehow I'm in a bind
where I got to drive a crappier car, We're not
going I don't stand crappier hotel rooms. I don't care.
I've got nobody I'm expecting to look my life and
and you know, think I'm I just I don't have
that pressure. And I assume that a lot of these
people to getting these situations have a very public here's
(07:12):
my home, here's my cars, here is how I live,
and they just can't possibly deal with.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Not being that.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Yes, and they might indeed get a sense of entitlement.
How do I phrase this because that term is overused
a little bit, but that they cannot accept going backward
and they think I deserve better than this.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
I deserve this, Katie.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
You know, in terms of Romanowski situation, Katie may and
nailed it. He was just I assume they were cheating
on their taxes and thought they'd get away with it
or they wouldn't be audited or whatever. So that might
be the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Well, just on like a smaller scale.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
I mean, I know someone who used to do dumb
stuff all the time thinking they wouldn't get caught, and
well they didn't. But it was like a mentality like
it's just not going to happen to me, And I
think that maybe you know some people are like that
on the much larger scale in this situation.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Well, most criminals on the streets think that, and they're right,
you know, they probably won't get caught.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Your idea that it's the same thing, just a larger scale.
It's kind of like the Charles Barkley talking about all
the money he lost gambling. Well, I make a lot
of money. I have a lot of money, and so
my numbers are a lot bigger. So yeah, it could
just be that, Yeah, I couldn't get fifteen point three
million dollars behind in my taxes for uh, for obvious reasons.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
So I'm pretty well acquainted. Was with another NFL player
who was a great example of somebody who was extremely
skilled in that but had no life skills. Social skills
were arrested just real life was never going to work
out very well, just wasn't made for it. But fantastic
(08:59):
football player.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
I hope I don't just ever somehow ignore the reality
of something, whether it's the way you're abusing your body
or spending your money or I don't know. There's lots
of examples where you just ignore it. Yesh, yesh.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
There are probably listeners listening now, which is how you
know they're listeners saying you hope you're not ignoring the
reality of abusing your body, sleep, diet.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
I don't feel like my sleep and diet is in
the category of fifteen million dollars behind in Texas.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
But hu't.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
H I think my brain, brain and or heart is
going to give out at some point.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
It's possible.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Yeah, I do have the attitude that it wouldn't happen
to me. I definitely have that attitude.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
Really appreciate you incorporating some greens into your diet.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
It that's a good idea, and we recommend Bill Romanowski's
jar O Greens. It's only nineteen ninety nine for months
special introductory offer.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
It goes to a good cause. Yeah, exactly, and maybe
some prunes to Jack Well. I guess that's it.
How do you get that far off track? It's one
more thing. So I am somewhat attracted to stories of
people blowing up their lives by wanting to not blow
up my life. I don't think it's all just like
schadenfreud or something like that. I don't want to blow
(00:21):
up my life. And whenever I read these stories of
people like often blowing up their lives, I think, how
did you can it happen to anybody where you ignore
reality and get this far off track. I'm using this
example Sam Bankman Freed might be one example, although he
probably thought at some point things were going to turn around, yeah,
(00:42):
and that he.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Could fix it. He can somehow cover the accounts, make
a billion more bucks, cover his bets, and then get
back to normal.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
This particular example I'm going to give is NFL star
in great inferior and NFL fan. You certainly know his name,
Bill Romanowski. We talked about him a lot here on
the Armstrong and Getty Show because he was a forty
niner and won Super Bowls, and then he played with
the Raiders and he won Super Bowls. He won four
Super Bowls. Bill Romanowski, and I remember when he was
featured on sixty minutes at one time about all the
(01:15):
people he had hurt and fingers he had broken, and
all the differences getting a pile for the ball and
he'd break people's fingers. He's a horrible human being.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
I remember him being a complete lunatic.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
Yeah, but he was good and a lot of teams
wanted him, and he won a lot of Super Bowls.
Do you know the name, Katie or is he before
your time winning all these games?
Speaker 3 (01:34):
I actually know Bill. Oh, you know him personally? Yes? Okay.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
He used to do a weekly segment on a morning
show I was on when we worked with the station
for the Raiders, and I remember that.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
Yeah, well you can weigh you know, if your personal
friends and you don't want to weigh in on this,
that's fine.
Speaker 3 (01:52):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
He was as always, super nice guy. I agree, lunatic.
I don't know how he had that much energy.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
All the time. But he did a lot of various stimulants.
I mean, he did a lot of supplements to uh
to help him with it, because he admitted at the
end of his career to steroids and HGH and all
that sort of stuff, and a lot of steroids. Will
you know and get you pretty jazzed up too. He
also probably is a very successful NFL player, is probably
one of those good guys. It's got a real fast motor.
(02:20):
I'm the opposite. I got a really slow motor.
Speaker 3 (02:22):
My motor is super slow, guy, My motor.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Is very, very slow.
Speaker 3 (02:27):
But he and he walked like my grandfather used to.
Speaker 1 (02:32):
He just got uh, he got sued at the end
of his career because like he got in a fight
with the teammate and broke the guy's eye socket, ending
his career and had to pay the guy a whole
bunch of money.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
And he's he's right in the locker room.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Yeah, yeah, something completely Anyway, this is personal life stuff,
and this gets to my question is how do you
how do you not see this coming or how do
you let it go this far? So he and his wife, oh,
fifteen point five million dollars in back taxes. Too bad.
You can't pay that off with being tan, because he
and his wife are very very tan. If tan was
(03:04):
fungible like money, somehow maybe could pay it off. He
and his hot wife are so toued to be more tan.
Seminars made but anyway, tape series they had right, they
had a nutrition company that may or may not have
had stuff that actually did any good. But that's the
world of nutrition supplements, right, you know, buyer beware. I'm
(03:26):
not dogging him for that, but you're nodding your head.
You know something about this kiddie.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
Oh yeah, I tried him and used him. He was
that rick at the peak of that when he was
doing stuff with our shell They were good, they tasted good.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Yeah, and they might have actually been perfectly good fine,
but regardless, he wasn't paying his takes.
Speaker 4 (03:43):
Doubt it the contrarian unless it was just you know,
vitamins which won't hurt you, but it was it was
like a protein shake tasted fine.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
Yeah, shake's a protein shake.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
I was just I have this tomorrow on the radio show.
I was just reading this thing about the supplement craze.
Supplements are hotter than ever, and they do seem to
be it because everything I bring up about anything, somebody
recommends a supplement to me, Oh, you're not taking enough
magnesium or whatever. And so it's just such a huge,
huge industry now and how much of it actually does
he any good for your anxiety or sleeping or you
(04:21):
can't get an erection or whatever the hell the problem is.
I don't know. Yes, you're shaking your head, Joe.
Speaker 2 (04:27):
I couldn't decide whether or make a joke or not
do it. No, now the moments passed, But so it
was disgusting but funny.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
What's interesting about Romanowski and is his very tan, attractive
wife owned fifteen point five million dollars in back taxes.
It looks like they were using money from the nutrition
company to live a crazy, high flying lifestyle, as often
happens with people like this bigger house than you can afford,
nicer cars, and you can afford better trips, jewelry, etc.
(04:59):
And that's my question of how people who do this?
Do you just think the bill's never gonna come do
or nobody's gonna catch on? I mean, because I assume
at many points you were getting letters from the irs
or some business manager was telling you or something that hey,
you know this, this this road doesn't go on forever.
(05:22):
And so what's what's in the what's the mindset if
somebody blows up their life like this? And I asked,
because I don't, I don't ever want to do that.
Speaker 2 (05:30):
I think there are some people who've done that, who
could give you a reasonably coherent answer. I think this
is straight out of the Department of There'd be nothing
more terrifying than to spend five minutes in somebody else's head.
And this is one of my favorite weird thought experiments
because you'd have to I mean certain people. You get
in there for like sixty seconds, and you'd be saying
(05:51):
the safe work, tomato, Tomato, get me out of here.
But you'd have to hold onto your own conscience or
consciousness rather as well. But I think what would be
terrifying about it if you could get into Bill Romanowski's
head as he's partying and enjoying his Caribbean mansion or
whatever he's doing, is the total lack of recognition of consequences.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
So if I got in his head, I'd be thinking, Hey,
why is nobody in here thinking about the fact that
we're at this point ten million dollars behind in our
Texas and we're still on a Caribbean vacation.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Yeah, I don't, I don't know. I can't imagine any
thought like Katie.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
No, I'm I'm along the lines of thinking he just
thought he was not going to get caught.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
That just seems crazy to me. I think one of
the pressures to do this. I guarantee one of the
pressures to do this that I don't have, for maybe
not even good reasons.
Speaker 3 (06:48):
I don't care.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
I mean, if if, like somehow I'm in a bind
where I got to drive a crappier car, We're not
going I don't stand crappier hotel rooms. I don't care.
I've got nobody I'm expecting to look my life and
and you know, think I'm I just I don't have
that pressure. And I assume that a lot of these
people to getting these situations have a very public here's
(07:12):
my home, here's my cars, here is how I live,
and they just can't possibly deal with.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Not being that.
Speaker 2 (07:21):
Yes, and they might indeed get a sense of entitlement.
How do I phrase this because that term is overused
a little bit, but that they cannot accept going backward
and they think I deserve better than this.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
I deserve this, Katie.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
You know, in terms of Romanowski situation, Katie may and
nailed it. He was just I assume they were cheating
on their taxes and thought they'd get away with it
or they wouldn't be audited or whatever. So that might
be the whole thing.
Speaker 3 (07:51):
Well, just on like a smaller scale.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
I mean, I know someone who used to do dumb
stuff all the time thinking they wouldn't get caught, and
well they didn't. But it was like a mentality like
it's just not going to happen to me, And I
think that maybe you know some people are like that
on the much larger scale in this situation.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Well, most criminals on the streets think that, and they're right,
you know, they probably won't get caught.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Your idea that it's the same thing, just a larger scale.
It's kind of like the Charles Barkley talking about all
the money he lost gambling. Well, I make a lot
of money. I have a lot of money, and so
my numbers are a lot bigger. So yeah, it could
just be that, Yeah, I couldn't get fifteen point three
million dollars behind in my taxes for uh, for obvious reasons.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
So I'm pretty well acquainted. Was with another NFL player
who was a great example of somebody who was extremely
skilled in that but had no life skills. Social skills
were arrested just real life was never going to work
out very well, just wasn't made for it. But fantastic
(08:59):
football player.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
I hope I don't just ever somehow ignore the reality
of something, whether it's the way you're abusing your body
or spending your money or I don't know. There's lots
of examples where you just ignore it. Yesh, yesh.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
There are probably listeners listening now, which is how you
know they're listeners saying you hope you're not ignoring the
reality of abusing your body, sleep, diet.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
I don't feel like my sleep and diet is in
the category of fifteen million dollars behind in Texas.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
But hu't.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
H I think my brain, brain and or heart is
going to give out at some point.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
It's possible.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Yeah, I do have the attitude that it wouldn't happen
to me. I definitely have that attitude.
Speaker 4 (09:48):
Really appreciate you incorporating some greens into your diet.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
It that's a good idea, and we recommend Bill Romanowski's
jar O Greens. It's only nineteen ninety nine for months
special introductory offer.
Speaker 3 (10:05):
It goes to a good cause. Yeah, exactly, and maybe
some prunes to Jack Well. I guess that's it.
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