July 24, 2024 • 10 mins
He was a pro football sensation. But then his politics turned him into a polarizing figure. What's Colin Kaepernick's new career path?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
He hasn't come all the way back. In fact, he
hasn't come a quarter back. It's one more Thing, Armstrong
and gey thing. So is that a.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Is that a pun or just a play on words?
Speaker 1 (00:15):
I don't know, but it was stupid and beneath me.
But we had to have something so that we could
just plunge on with this podcast. So I came up
with that our topic, Colin Kaepernick.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Odly enough, this podcast, this very podcast called One More Thing,
which is separate from Armstrong and Getdy on Demand, which
is our daily radio show, broke into the top one
hundred podcasts where they count podcasts in Marca. This just
this one, just a standalone because it's been freaking entertaining.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
The Armstrong and Getdy on Demand is in the top fifteen.
Can you believe that? I can. It's it's a brilliant thing. Wow,
nobody's more surprised than me anyway. So before we start
and seriously and then say whatever you want, as always
on this show, I'm going to start for no particular
reason with Katie and go to Michael. What is your
(01:06):
take in general on Colin Kaepernick? What would be your
introductory paragraph or whatever?
Speaker 3 (01:17):
I think that he was a great athlete until he
opened his mouth and started getting political, and now I
think that he is a racist, cop hating jerk.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Okay, fair enough. Huh, Michael, what's your take on c K.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
I think he was a great athlete, like Katie said,
but didn't he have a girlfriend, and I think influenced him.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
And he had a hot activist girlfriend.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Yet I forgot about her, That's right.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
I think he was very impressionable and that's how he
got the way he is today trying to please a girl.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Jack anything else you want to add to that.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
I don't think about the politics very much for whatever reason.
I think about the.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Playing.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
I've thought many times he could have retired after that
Super Bowl. If they'd have won, which I almost did,
that would have been something. But even with the loss,
he could have retired at that moment and gone down
is one of the most amazing phenomenon in history, and
gone oj and just in endorsements for the rest of Yeah, yes, exactly,
and just been made so much money and and and
(02:23):
everybody had wondered, geez, he could have won fifty super Bowls.
I mean, just if he had kept playing, and nobody
would have known the rest of the story.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Because he came to be on screen smiling and saying,
if you need speed and versatility, you need Cisco Systems.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Because he came into the league, he could not be
stopped by anybody, right, it was just amazing.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Yeah, until they figured it out. But anyway, I suppose
my brief take on Colin Kaepernick that I've offered up
through the years is that he he was a reasonably
bright guy desperately in search of identity as an adopted kid.
He fell under the sway of his activist girlfriend, and
(03:02):
he got caught up in the whole uh yeah, it's
about tail black Lives Matter thing, and and it led
him down a terrible, terrible path. I feel, you know,
some of the things he said were loathsome and stupid, nidiotic,
and he had no idea. He was a tool of
neo Marxists. But mostly I just I feel bad for
the guy.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
He'll he'll come out with a different point of view
when he's fifty. Oh yeah, and yeah, regret all that stuff.
Did he start the whole thing? Was he the first kneeler?
Speaker 1 (03:28):
I believe?
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Did he start the whole thing?
Speaker 4 (03:30):
That?
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Then the women's soccer team did, and yeah, I believe
it was. First, I think he started the whole dang thing.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Wow, I just remember all of the things that he
was saying about white people and this, and then I
just would see the picture of him with his parents
and I'm going.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Yeah, that was that was the part that the only
part that like really bothered me was as a parent
is just God, they they poured their heart and soul
and taken on an adopted kid, and then you yeah, yeah,
and loved.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Him, sorted him and his whole career and yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Yeah, you know, and he played an active role in
swaying a lot of people toward a truly loathsome philosophy.
But again, I don't think he had any idea. He
was a tool of the neo Marxist movement, so a
bit of a dope. And I realize I have more
of a sympathetic attitude than a lot of people about
him because I think he did some damage. But I
don't know. Maybe it's because I've raised kids to adulthood
(04:21):
and I just you do stupid stuff in your twenties,
and he set records for stupid. Anyway, the reason I
bring it up, unless anybody has anything more to add on,
I do have.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
One more thing to say.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Okay, what was it?
Speaker 2 (04:31):
It flit it out of my head because I'm closer
to Joe Biden's age than Colin Kaepernick's.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Is that literally true? Kep care?
Speaker 2 (04:39):
How old is Colin Kaepernick? I want to know if
that was literally true what I just said, that would
be trouble.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
It's true, it almost certainly is. What don't they always
thirty six years old? Thirty six?
Speaker 2 (04:49):
I am, I'm closer to Joe Biden's age than Colin Kaepernick's.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Age twenty two carry almost exactly the same, right.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Yeah, I had a point about Colin Kaepernick. Oh, it's
also amazing that because he was definitely good enough to
get on another team. I mean, oh yeah, there aren't
many people that can do what he did in the world.
And the NFL conspired, probably in an illegal way, but
(05:23):
they didn't get busted on it to keep him out
of the league.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
I don't necessarily think he collusioned. No, I don't think
it was collusion for the following reason. NFL teams exist
for two reasons, butts in seats, eyes on TV screens.
I'm surprised every single executive came to absolutely the correct conclusion.
We hire this guy, we're gonna lose a lot of
butts in a lot of guys.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
I would imagine they crunch the numbers because they want
to win, which makes them a lot of money too,
so they must have even in liberal cities. Of course,
he did it in San Francisco. He can't get much
more liberal than that. But even like playing in la
or Minneapolis or someplace like that, the majority of the
people would have hated him being on their team, which
(06:04):
tells you something about how out there he was with
his philosophies.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Yes, Katie right, you got to remember the whole hardcore
Black Lives Matter thing, There was a smallish group of
Americans that actually believed that crap, and a really large
group that was so afraid of the activists that they
kept their claps shot right their traps shut. Anyway, the
reason I brought all this up is he's the feature
of a Wall Street Journal article. Is he still crazy wealthy?
(06:34):
He obviously has a fair amount of money because he's
building out media and publishing companies in recent years, and
he found that creators are looking to get into those businesses,
but they often run into a series of roadblocks around
the worl along the way like and they give some
examples of you're a talented comic book author, but you
don't have the skills to illustrate it, and you can't
(06:54):
find an illustrator, but you could use Loomy to generate
graphics to accompany your texts, or conversely, an illustrator could
work with AI to help pair their art with words.
And I immediately came to the same conclusion that the
Wall Street Journal did of several paragraphs later, is wait
a minute, Wait a minute, Wait a minute. You've just
(07:17):
expressed that it's unnecessary really to have a writer, and
it's unnecessary really to have an artist in that other scenario,
and it's unnecessary really to have either one of them
in a lot of the commercial creative arts right now.
So look, if Colin Kaepernet, once again coming off as
(07:38):
just half bright, has said, Hey, there's people, especially of color,
who have these great creative ideas, but they're up against
these roadblocks for getting their stuff out in front of people.
I'm going to help them with that. That's a lovely impulse.
That's perfectly fine, but you're going to do it with AI,
which will replace them.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
That's interesting, just to let you guys know that the
tale that influenced him so greatly. And Colin just welcomed
their child, their first child in twenty twenty two, and
they're still together.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Well, I hope they're happy. I hope they changed those
two crazy kids, nothing but happy. I hope they change
your attitudes and he can afford to have a baby.
I just looked it up. He made about forty three
million dollars in the NFL and had a twenty million
dollar deal with Nike before they dumped him when it
got too controversy. So he made it at least sixty
million dollars.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
So the startup received four million dollars in seed funding.
Blah Blah Blah, partner at the firm, said she was
introduced to Kaepernick came away impressed not just with the product,
also how the former signal callers approached leading the company
from the team he's assembled to his own willingness to
dive deep into technical details. That's interesting. Good for him.
I don't care. AI and creators don't always feel the
(08:46):
attraction toward each other. She said. The key thing for
Loomy is they're building for creators, but again, you just
explained how the artist doesn't need a writer anymore, and
the writer doesn't need an artist anymore. How do you
not follow that to its logical conclusion?
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Right?
Speaker 1 (09:04):
But if Casey is just into the idea of people
doing this for fun or as a creative expression, I
mean if I, well, for instance, I can write a story,
I'm decent at it. I'm a terrible artist. I mean,
if I drew a cat, you'd say, that's that horse. Right,
So the idea of I could have AI illustrate my comic,
my graphic novel or something that's super cool, but it'll
(09:27):
it'll never sell because there's too much AI cranking up,
too much content right out, too much content.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
It was a dark and stormy night I've read. I've
read many of your books. Yeah, well with the cat
on the cover? Or was that a horse?
Speaker 1 (09:44):
By the way, this says Kaepernick has still been in
training in case an NFL team eventually comes calling.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Yes, oh that's too and he's thirty. What'd you say next?
So he's getting he's almost aged out. But Tim Tebow
did that same thing, stayed in NFL shape just in
case any way changes her mind.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Well, Kaepernick, unless his galvaal has been wamping on him,
and I have no reason to believe that he's not
been taking blows. And he's probably, you know, pretty fresh
as athletes go. At age thirty six, he is un
you know, worn down.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
All he had to do was agreed to stand for
the national anthem, and he'd have made another fifty million dollars,
but he had enough money, so there was no reason
to do it for the money.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
I wonder if he's proud of him he's kicking himself
for that.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
At thirty six, he might be edging toward kicking himself.
By the time he's fifty, I think he'll be fully
kicking himself. He'll use that athletic ability to kick his
own hats.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
What's Steve de Berg up to, We'll let you know
next time. Well, I guess that's it.
He hasn't come all the way back. In fact, he
hasn't come a quarter back. It's one more Thing, Armstrong
and gey thing. So is that a.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Is that a pun or just a play on words?
Speaker 1 (00:15):
I don't know, but it was stupid and beneath me.
But we had to have something so that we could
just plunge on with this podcast. So I came up
with that our topic, Colin Kaepernick.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Odly enough, this podcast, this very podcast called One More Thing,
which is separate from Armstrong and Getdy on Demand, which
is our daily radio show, broke into the top one
hundred podcasts where they count podcasts in Marca. This just
this one, just a standalone because it's been freaking entertaining.
Speaker 1 (00:46):
The Armstrong and Getdy on Demand is in the top fifteen.
Can you believe that? I can. It's it's a brilliant thing. Wow,
nobody's more surprised than me anyway. So before we start
and seriously and then say whatever you want, as always
on this show, I'm going to start for no particular
reason with Katie and go to Michael. What is your
(01:06):
take in general on Colin Kaepernick? What would be your
introductory paragraph or whatever?
Speaker 3 (01:17):
I think that he was a great athlete until he
opened his mouth and started getting political, and now I
think that he is a racist, cop hating jerk.
Speaker 1 (01:27):
Okay, fair enough. Huh, Michael, what's your take on c K.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
I think he was a great athlete, like Katie said,
but didn't he have a girlfriend, and I think influenced him.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
And he had a hot activist girlfriend.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Yet I forgot about her, That's right.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
I think he was very impressionable and that's how he
got the way he is today trying to please a girl.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
Jack anything else you want to add to that.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
I don't think about the politics very much for whatever reason.
I think about the.
Speaker 1 (02:00):
Playing.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
I've thought many times he could have retired after that
Super Bowl. If they'd have won, which I almost did,
that would have been something. But even with the loss,
he could have retired at that moment and gone down
is one of the most amazing phenomenon in history, and
gone oj and just in endorsements for the rest of Yeah, yes, exactly,
and just been made so much money and and and
(02:23):
everybody had wondered, geez, he could have won fifty super Bowls.
I mean, just if he had kept playing, and nobody
would have known the rest of the story.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Because he came to be on screen smiling and saying,
if you need speed and versatility, you need Cisco Systems.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
Because he came into the league, he could not be
stopped by anybody, right, it was just amazing.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Yeah, until they figured it out. But anyway, I suppose
my brief take on Colin Kaepernick that I've offered up
through the years is that he he was a reasonably
bright guy desperately in search of identity as an adopted kid.
He fell under the sway of his activist girlfriend, and
(03:02):
he got caught up in the whole uh yeah, it's
about tail black Lives Matter thing, and and it led
him down a terrible, terrible path. I feel, you know,
some of the things he said were loathsome and stupid, nidiotic,
and he had no idea. He was a tool of
neo Marxists. But mostly I just I feel bad for
the guy.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
He'll he'll come out with a different point of view
when he's fifty. Oh yeah, and yeah, regret all that stuff.
Did he start the whole thing? Was he the first kneeler?
Speaker 1 (03:28):
I believe?
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Did he start the whole thing?
Speaker 4 (03:30):
That?
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Then the women's soccer team did, and yeah, I believe
it was. First, I think he started the whole dang thing.
Speaker 3 (03:36):
Wow, I just remember all of the things that he
was saying about white people and this, and then I
just would see the picture of him with his parents
and I'm going.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Yeah, that was that was the part that the only
part that like really bothered me was as a parent
is just God, they they poured their heart and soul
and taken on an adopted kid, and then you yeah, yeah,
and loved.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Him, sorted him and his whole career and yeah.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Yeah, you know, and he played an active role in
swaying a lot of people toward a truly loathsome philosophy.
But again, I don't think he had any idea. He
was a tool of the neo Marxist movement, so a
bit of a dope. And I realize I have more
of a sympathetic attitude than a lot of people about
him because I think he did some damage. But I
don't know. Maybe it's because I've raised kids to adulthood
(04:21):
and I just you do stupid stuff in your twenties,
and he set records for stupid. Anyway, the reason I
bring it up, unless anybody has anything more to add on,
I do have.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
One more thing to say.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Okay, what was it?
Speaker 2 (04:31):
It flit it out of my head because I'm closer
to Joe Biden's age than Colin Kaepernick's.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
Is that literally true? Kep care?
Speaker 2 (04:39):
How old is Colin Kaepernick? I want to know if
that was literally true what I just said, that would
be trouble.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
It's true, it almost certainly is. What don't they always
thirty six years old? Thirty six?
Speaker 2 (04:49):
I am, I'm closer to Joe Biden's age than Colin Kaepernick's.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Age twenty two carry almost exactly the same, right.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
Yeah, I had a point about Colin Kaepernick. Oh, it's
also amazing that because he was definitely good enough to
get on another team. I mean, oh yeah, there aren't
many people that can do what he did in the world.
And the NFL conspired, probably in an illegal way, but
(05:23):
they didn't get busted on it to keep him out
of the league.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
I don't necessarily think he collusioned. No, I don't think
it was collusion for the following reason. NFL teams exist
for two reasons, butts in seats, eyes on TV screens.
I'm surprised every single executive came to absolutely the correct conclusion.
We hire this guy, we're gonna lose a lot of
butts in a lot of guys.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
I would imagine they crunch the numbers because they want
to win, which makes them a lot of money too,
so they must have even in liberal cities. Of course,
he did it in San Francisco. He can't get much
more liberal than that. But even like playing in la
or Minneapolis or someplace like that, the majority of the
people would have hated him being on their team, which
(06:04):
tells you something about how out there he was with
his philosophies.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
Yes, Katie right, you got to remember the whole hardcore
Black Lives Matter thing, There was a smallish group of
Americans that actually believed that crap, and a really large
group that was so afraid of the activists that they
kept their claps shot right their traps shut. Anyway, the
reason I brought all this up is he's the feature
of a Wall Street Journal article. Is he still crazy wealthy?
(06:34):
He obviously has a fair amount of money because he's
building out media and publishing companies in recent years, and
he found that creators are looking to get into those businesses,
but they often run into a series of roadblocks around
the worl along the way like and they give some
examples of you're a talented comic book author, but you
don't have the skills to illustrate it, and you can't
(06:54):
find an illustrator, but you could use Loomy to generate
graphics to accompany your texts, or conversely, an illustrator could
work with AI to help pair their art with words.
And I immediately came to the same conclusion that the
Wall Street Journal did of several paragraphs later, is wait
a minute, Wait a minute, Wait a minute. You've just
(07:17):
expressed that it's unnecessary really to have a writer, and
it's unnecessary really to have an artist in that other scenario,
and it's unnecessary really to have either one of them
in a lot of the commercial creative arts right now.
So look, if Colin Kaepernet, once again coming off as
(07:38):
just half bright, has said, Hey, there's people, especially of color,
who have these great creative ideas, but they're up against
these roadblocks for getting their stuff out in front of people.
I'm going to help them with that. That's a lovely impulse.
That's perfectly fine, but you're going to do it with AI,
which will replace them.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
That's interesting, just to let you guys know that the
tale that influenced him so greatly. And Colin just welcomed
their child, their first child in twenty twenty two, and
they're still together.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Well, I hope they're happy. I hope they changed those
two crazy kids, nothing but happy. I hope they change
your attitudes and he can afford to have a baby.
I just looked it up. He made about forty three
million dollars in the NFL and had a twenty million
dollar deal with Nike before they dumped him when it
got too controversy. So he made it at least sixty
million dollars.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
So the startup received four million dollars in seed funding.
Blah Blah Blah, partner at the firm, said she was
introduced to Kaepernick came away impressed not just with the product,
also how the former signal callers approached leading the company
from the team he's assembled to his own willingness to
dive deep into technical details. That's interesting. Good for him.
I don't care. AI and creators don't always feel the
(08:46):
attraction toward each other. She said. The key thing for
Loomy is they're building for creators, but again, you just
explained how the artist doesn't need a writer anymore, and
the writer doesn't need an artist anymore. How do you
not follow that to its logical conclusion?
Speaker 2 (09:04):
Right?
Speaker 1 (09:04):
But if Casey is just into the idea of people
doing this for fun or as a creative expression, I
mean if I, well, for instance, I can write a story,
I'm decent at it. I'm a terrible artist. I mean,
if I drew a cat, you'd say, that's that horse. Right,
So the idea of I could have AI illustrate my comic,
my graphic novel or something that's super cool, but it'll
(09:27):
it'll never sell because there's too much AI cranking up,
too much content right out, too much content.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
It was a dark and stormy night I've read. I've
read many of your books. Yeah, well with the cat
on the cover? Or was that a horse?
Speaker 1 (09:44):
By the way, this says Kaepernick has still been in
training in case an NFL team eventually comes calling.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Yes, oh that's too and he's thirty. What'd you say next?
So he's getting he's almost aged out. But Tim Tebow
did that same thing, stayed in NFL shape just in
case any way changes her mind.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
Well, Kaepernick, unless his galvaal has been wamping on him,
and I have no reason to believe that he's not
been taking blows. And he's probably, you know, pretty fresh
as athletes go. At age thirty six, he is un
you know, worn down.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
All he had to do was agreed to stand for
the national anthem, and he'd have made another fifty million dollars,
but he had enough money, so there was no reason
to do it for the money.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
I wonder if he's proud of him he's kicking himself
for that.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
At thirty six, he might be edging toward kicking himself.
By the time he's fifty, I think he'll be fully
kicking himself. He'll use that athletic ability to kick his
own hats.
Speaker 4 (10:48):
What's Steve de Berg up to, We'll let you know
next time. Well, I guess that's it.
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