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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Here's my advice young people learned to code. It's one
more thing. I'm strong and geddy, one more thing. So
I'm speaking at career day at my son's high school
on Friday. I want to discuss that a little bit
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with the rest of the cast here is also in
the radio industry.
Speaker 2 (00:24):
But yeah, I'm trying to remember I've done a couple
of those, but it's been ages.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
Before we get to that. Wanted to hear this story.
This is about the dude and the fake and his death, Katie.
Should I already gave it away? Did I give it away?
Should I not have given it away? Kind of gave it? Okay,
let's listen to it.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
Forty five year old Ryan borgart Vani is from Green
Lake in Wisconsin. In August, police found his kayak his car,
along with his wallet, keys, and license. But for fifty
four days, search teams using sonar and divers scoured this
lake in Vain. Police say it all unraveled when they
learned Ryan's passport was used in Canada. The day after
(01:03):
he disappeared. A search of his computer revealed the married
father was talking online to a woman from Uzbekistan. He
had recently taken out a three hundred and seventy five
thousand dollars life insurance policy and moved money overseas. The
FBI is also involved in this investigation. At this point,
they think Ryan Borgart is somewhere in Eastern Europe.
Speaker 1 (01:25):
So you're married with kids, you meet a chick online
from Uzbekistan wherever that is.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Once you've had is Bekistani, you'll never go back to
your wife or your granny. Like the old saying goes, geez,
I don't, well, look what I had to work with.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Go to the car. What are you gonna rise with Uzbekistan?
Even for you to say so? The insurance policy was
that for him to have money or to leave money
for his family as he headed out the door, I
would think for his family, right, I think it to me,
I'm guessing he took a bunch of money. But then
you know I left him even more behind with the
(02:06):
I died.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
I mean, well, right, yeah, just because he decided I'm
out of here, I'm gonna go houck up with a hot,
hot Uzbeka stanny. Woman doesn't make dan, that's right. But
he has kids, Oh my lord, nod, he's got three
beautiful camps.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Well he's crazy.
Speaker 2 (02:26):
But yeah, there's that.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
And his wife looked like.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Stanny Tail.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
His wife looks nice, nicely, really sweet looking family. What
a dick. Yeah, crap, And so I'm sure the money's gone.
She's not going to get the insurance payout because he's
not dead. That sucks hard. Oh that's a bad one.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
I'm kayaking around in Green Lake, Wisconsin wherever that is,
with my cute wife and my three beautiful children. You
won the lottery, of course I'm not happy. I'm not.
He's clearly a freaking nut job.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Yeah, it's a sad story. All for some Beckis stan
All for some sweet Usbecca stany tale you Becky Becky
Becky Bekers stand Stan Well?
Speaker 4 (03:12):
And how's he even know? I mean, we heard that
whole that scam where guys were getting scammed out of
a bunch of money overseas.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Decent point, we're assuming this is even slightly real. It's
quite possibly got over there and it's a dude, and
he's one of many dudes showing up to see this
dude who they all think is a woman. And yeah,
all he did was lose his money.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
Getting baffed over the head and have his money taken. Well,
he deserves a packets.
Speaker 4 (03:38):
Yeah, and now he's actually missing, right because he's over there.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Yes, now you're actually missing. So my son's high school
a lot of like a lot of high schools do,
having a career day, and so they send out an
email to all the parents, would you like to come
speak a career day about what you do for a living?
To give our high school students, who are now just
a couple of years away from the real world, some
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ideas of things they could go out there and do
to make a living. And well, Jo can speak to
this because he's done it before. I've not done it before.
But it's the it's the odd thing of on one hand,
I got a cool job that sounds fun and cool
because it is. But on the other hand, it's not
actually a career that's available to really hardly anybody, especially now.
(04:24):
It never really was. It's show business and you know
it exists, and I don't mind telling you about it,
but I kind of hate the idea of putting it
in your head that this is an option for you,
because it barely is anyway.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Well, yeah, true, but I assume you're thinking of yourself
as a podcaster. Well, yeah, so a broadcast.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
So that's one thing my son I didn't actually get
into it. He's not going to be able to go
because it filled up very quickly, and they he's a freshman,
and they let the seniors pick first. It makes sense,
is they're a year out from the real world and
then juniors, you know, makes sense. And it filled up immediately.
And I think it's because I put radio announcer slash
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podcaster and they probably don't even know what radio announcer is,
but the word podcaster got their attention. And I will
speak to a little of that, but I don't, I don't.
I don't because that it's first of all, the radio
industry is barely exists. To those of us still in
(05:30):
it exists great, it absolutely exists. Fantastic, and it's good
for the advertisers and it's good for everybody. But but
technological changes and changes in the laws, the Telecommunications Act
of nineteen ninety six when Clinton's president changed the radio
landscape forever and then everything from them technological wise changed
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it and everything like that. So they're just don't as
many jobs as there used to be, correct, But those
of us still in it, it's fantastic, but it's it's
kind of hard, hard to go into a classroom and
say here's something you could do for a living.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Sure, yeah, yeah, you got to bring Hanson along to
answer like all of their technical questions.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Well, well, I'm not going to answer any technical questions
because I don't think that matters at all. But anybody
who owns a computer or a phone can be a podcaster.
I mean, the barrier entry is almost zero for being
a podcaster, but then actually turning it into money is
a whole different thing. And so I don't know, what
what what have you told people in the past about
your You're lucky to have it, you know, one in
(06:33):
a million shot career.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
My memories are are very vague.
Speaker 1 (06:40):
I mean, back when you were going into high schools,
it was you know, the Hindenberg has landed that sort
of radio.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
Yeah exactly. Yeah, that's why my memories are so vague. Now,
it was a long time ago.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
I have a.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Feeling that I probably accented the idea that it takes
a very long time, and you have to work hard,
and you have to be willing to do about anything.
If you go in picky, you're doomed. Pursue any opportunity
that comes along as aggressively as you can.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
You're talking about the radio industruy of the podcasting industry.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Oh podcast not podcast thing didn't exist when I was.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Oh you're you're talking about what you used to say?
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, oh right now and yeah and.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
I so okay, this is my real question. In Katy,
you can answer this two year. You can get to
the real question. The real question is how far do
I want to go down the road of of course
you'd like to be rich, and most of you would
like to be famous, but very very very few two
people can be rich and famous and it's you know,
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a good idea to pursue other things and this on
the side, or I have very realistic expectations going in
how far down that road do want to go? Being
like a downer where they all walk out and think,
oh crap, I probably can't do it because he says
nobody can really do it. And I wish I'd have
gone over to the UH coding guy and UH had
him speak about something that I could actually do for
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a living.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
Ai'll be doing the coding. Don't waste time more than this.
I don't know, you asked Katie, So I'll let her answer first.
I have my own answer.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
I mean, I don't know that I would discourage them,
but I would definitely give them a warning.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
Well, whe's why I don't on the competition. What if
they're smart and funny, I don't need them out there
competing against me for the rest of my my career.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
But yeah, now then mind them, discourage the hell out
of them. No, just you know, I would say, I
like your idea of having a back kind of a
backup plan.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
You know, it's a little like an NBA player going
in there and talking about this is a career option
for you, Right, Yeah, I have a backup plan.
Speaker 2 (08:53):
I would I would absolutely emphasize some of the positives,
but make clear that it is unbelievably competitive, especially now,
and that you've got to be really compelling all of
the time. It's a tough thing to do. But you know,
another message might be and I remember, this is one
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of the few moments of decent parenting I ever generated,
was explaining to my kids, who all of whom had
various passion for the arts and music, drama, whatever, And
I told them, you're not studying math and business and
English and everything else in case you fail. I'm not
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encouraging you to do these things because I think you're
going to fail. I said learn this stuff in case
you succeed, because in show business people will try to
steal from you every single day of your career, at
least until you surround yourself with good enough people that
they're not. You've got to be smart. You gotta be savvy.
You got to be knowledgeable. You've got to be confident.
(10:04):
You've got to be a negotiator. You gotta understand finances
and stuff like that. The last thing you want to
do is be some sort of naive, uneducated artist who
just you know, throws yourself to the wolves.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
I know this is this is a dead end. Get
a job with the state. You get a job with
the state, you can't fire, you paycheck forever you work
till you're like fifty, pension and healthcare the rest of
your life.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
Now, many of you want to understand this, which you're
gonna keep a bottle of vodka in the bottom draw
all right, just to get through the day, because there
are gonna be days you're gonna think I'd rather be dead.
But a little nip from old uncle Wodka. Set you
right on the right track, and you'll you'll be fine,
trust me, just a little nip.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
What about dressing for the part?
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Show up with headphones on?
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Oh god, you know my my, Back when radio was
in an industry, you actually could go into and get
a job in whatever town he lived in. I don't
care how small the town was. They had a radio station,
maybe two. You could go work out and earn a living.
I mean, that was a long time ago, but even then,
(11:13):
my first radio teacher in college said almost none of
you are going to be able to make a living
in this, and then just wanted you to know. And
my only thought was that's true for them, but it's
not true for me. That's the way I thought about it.
But I'm glad she said that.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
Yeah, I received similar warnings. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
My mathcom teacher when I was in college did a
really cool thing with our class that kind of opened
my eyes to talk radio because we were in that
whole realm of the class and he had to sit
silent for one minute and he said that was one minute.
Imagine talking for four hours, because it made you realize
how long a minute is when you're just sitting there,
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you know, and it kind of go opened my I
was like, Wow, that really is that's a skill you have.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
And on I was going to talk a little bit
about the spoken word is more popular than it's ever
been in my life, I think with podcasting, and you know,
you've all seen some of the amazing podcasting contracts people
have signed, so spoken words still a great desire for
it out there. You just have to have an angle,
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be an expert in something, or be funny or charming
or something or all.
Speaker 2 (12:26):
Of the above. Yeah, just you know, you might want
to emphasize it takes a hell of a lot of work.
You've got to be with It sounds easy. It only
sounds easy because you've worked like crazy to make it
sound easy. You will sound crappy if you think it
is easy, unless you're just wildly talented. And although even
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then they're lots of wildly talented people. But what are
they talking about? What is their topic? What's to handle?
How do people find their way to you?
Speaker 1 (12:57):
And that's why you should get a job with the
state exactly.
Speaker 2 (13:00):
And again, bottom drawer, keep it just a little vodka whatever,
you know, what you ladies, maybe a little schnapps. It's minty,
it's fresh.
Speaker 4 (13:09):
Wow, ladies, ladies, some schnapps.
Speaker 2 (13:16):
A little slow fizz. You could show him nicky sour
maybe Candy tell me, tell me what I'm scratching where
he is?
Speaker 5 (13:26):
Yes, Jackie could show him how the proper way to
cue a record. You should also give him a pop
quiz on the laws of EA s testing.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Oh god, how do how do uh how to splice tape?
Speaker 3 (13:40):
You know?
Speaker 1 (13:40):
I actually might include that in that, And that's true
for any industry that they go into that. I there
are several skills I learned and got really good at
that became immediately worthless when technology changed. And that's just
the way life is, no matter what you're doing. Yeah,
and you gotta, you know, keep adapting. You gotta just
a little bottle.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
Oh, I guess I've covered that here, you know thoroughly.
Speaker 5 (14:08):
Kids, Let me give you a quiz on Paola. Well,
I guess that's it.