Take Me To Your Leader

A Congressional hearing shines more light on the UFO sightings...but what was accomplished?  

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Take me to your leaders. Unless they're jackasses. They seem
like jackasses. It's one more thing.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
I'm strong and getty, one more thing before we get
to your thing. I know we're about to talk about
the UFO hearing as they had the other day. I
as a guy who listens to lots of podcasts and
reads tons of stuff, I've noticed the change in the
last couple of years. There are way more of your
super smart people saying I think there's a decent chance

(00:31):
we are the only life in the universe, as opposed
to like my whole life where it was now, that'd
be crazy to think that. Now they're the super educated
people who spend their lives on this, there's like a
backlash to that, Like, no, there's very good reason to
believe we are the only life that exists in the universe.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
I've got to admit, having been convinced of the other
point of view from my whole life, I find that
counter into it been difficult to buy, but I haven't
dug into it.

Speaker 2 (01:02):
Oh yeah, look, you know, just like search it on
YouTube you'll find MIT professors talking going through the reasons
why they think that's quite possibly because it's just very
very difficult and takes a whole bunch of extraordinary things
to occur. Yeah, temperature water. Nobody's exactly sure how life
started anyway, but maybe there's just none anywhere, Katie.

Speaker 4 (01:24):
Your gut reaction, Oh, I for sure think there's like
aliens or something.

Speaker 2 (01:29):
I'm sure something well, and the other I'll let you
argue with the MIT professor with that they're hiding something.
I totally think for sure there's life somewhere. I tend
to be on your side.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
But yeah, and the other thing that I, you know,
tended to forget about until I took a college class
on This was an unbelievably easy class. I mean, home man,
talk about an easy a. You hardly had to fogg
a mirror anyway. But it was super interesting and fun.
But you know, in the history of the globe, which is,
you know, couple of billions a year whatever it is,

(02:02):
human beings have existed for like well, just life in
general has existed for like a blink of that time.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
And so not only would.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
You have to have you know, life here and then
there's some here and then way over there, but it
would have to exist at the same time across billions
of years, right, that's Elon, But I'm aware of each other,
that's Elon.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
Musk's point is that unless you are inter multiplanetary species,
which is why he wants to get us to Mars,
there's almost no chance of your surviving because there's a
you know, there's a time limit on all planets for
where it's going to be too hot or too cold
for the life to continue. So again, there could have
been life, maybe maybe a very long you know, one

(02:46):
hundred million years ago or one hundred million years from now,
but the idea that there's intelligent life somewhere right now
that could reach us is very very low.

Speaker 1 (02:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:55):
Yeah, fascinating topic, no doubt. But getting back to my
charming introduction. Take me to your leaders big hearing the
other day in the United States Congress.

Speaker 2 (03:05):
I like that version of interplanetary. Yeah, there's plenty of life.
It's close by. They can immediately come here. They speak English,
which is very handy. Well, they have translators.

Speaker 1 (03:14):
It's good they had Google Translate before Google.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
Did I appreciate you learning the English language before you land?

Speaker 4 (03:20):
Come down and they have three fingers.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
Yeah, they're basically us, just slightly different.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
Yeah, always bald headed, always kind of translucent with smooth
weird heads. Anyway, you know what, the old Star Trek
was so great for aliens. I mean because they really
tried hard with the technology of the time to be imaginative.
It wasn't all you know, bald headed, et looking creatures.

(03:47):
It was everything from like sparkles of energy to very
humanoid to like hot green chicks.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
I mean, really ran the gamut.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
Of what with Mars attacks.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
Oh yeah, yeah, great old movie. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
Anyway, So there's a hearing the other day Congressional panel
what the House Oversight Committee.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
Evidently they oversee space aliens.

Speaker 3 (04:10):
But it's funny because this account in the Wall Street Journal,
which you'd think would be among the more sober accounts
of this, just kind of glosses over all. Right, are
we talking about freaking space aliens? Are we just talking
about objects observed by military pilots that have not yet
been identified?

Speaker 2 (04:29):
Do I think I think China has planes or drones
that we don't know about and are hard to detect a.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
Freaking course, right?

Speaker 3 (04:38):
And or do we think that DARPA is developing weapons
and reconnaissance aircraft and sometimes they try them out on
our very guys to see if they can be detected
and in what way and how quickly and that sort
of thing.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
Yeah, absolutely, I think that.

Speaker 3 (04:55):
So the hearing Wednesday by two House Oversight Subcommittee's latest
in Congress is push for transparent around UFOs, which seems
like a terrible idea to me, for reasons I'll get into.
Witnesses have alleged that they've seen aerial phenomena exhibiting qualities
that defy explanation, that the US government has taken steps.

Speaker 1 (05:11):
To shield what it knows.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
And you've got Nancy Mayce, who's the hottie from South
Carolina who about half the time strikes me as a
really good congress person, then the other half of the
time she strikes me as a nut. But she said
she's the chairwoman of one of the subcommittees, said in
her opening remarks that some people didn't want Wednesdays hearing
to happen because they feared what might be disclosed. But

(05:35):
we stood firm no amount of outside pressure would ever
keep me from pursuing a subject. What if it's like
highly classified weapons systems to keep us from being overrun
by the Chinese commie horde, sweetheart, then would you disclose
it to the public.

Speaker 2 (05:54):
Not good.

Speaker 3 (05:57):
Congress in twenty twenty two held its first hearing on
US what it now calls Unidentified anomalous phenomenon or UAPs.

Speaker 2 (06:05):
Again, why did they have to change?

Speaker 3 (06:09):
Or if there's like flying pigs, that would be well, no,
I suppose that would be an identified anomalous phenomena.

Speaker 2 (06:15):
Hey, I know what that is. That's a flying pig.

Speaker 3 (06:17):
Oh when the hole wind pigs fly thing is now,
I'll be damned, but identified? Yes, everybody keep cool. Since then,
lawmakers in the public have heard from military and intelligence
officers who've testified they've seen UAP and they could pose.

Speaker 1 (06:32):
Risks to national security.

Speaker 3 (06:35):
And the Pentagon did not respond to a request for
comment on Wednesday.

Speaker 1 (06:41):
Doesn't that tell you everything you need to know?

Speaker 2 (06:42):
Yeah, it's just done.

Speaker 3 (06:43):
We're dealing with this as fast as we can can.
We just keep kind of quiet about it all because
we're developing counters to these Chinese spy tiny spy drones,
and we don't want to talk about it.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
Okay, Nancy.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
The other thing that has changed in my lifetime that
makes sense, not only is there, you know, this newfound
belief that maybe there is no other life in the universes.
Why are we sending out signals to try to reach them?
That stupid Stephen Hawking was the first person I heard
say that, and then others have written books about it.

(07:17):
That's the last thing you do if you're some tiny
little beast in the weeds in Africa is like raise
up your arms, say hey, any giant predators out there
that are much bigger, stronger than meat that would like
to kill me?

Speaker 1 (07:27):
Huh?

Speaker 2 (07:28):
Anybody I'm over here? Why would you do that? Why
would you send out the you know, the the voyager
that's still headed out into space and elons that went
out a while back, with all kinds of trying to
alert people that, hey, Israel a week plant over here
if you want to come kill us.

Speaker 3 (07:44):
Just we're made of meat, and we've got lots of
natural resources.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
We're made of meat. Meat.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
I'm reminded of one of Henry Kissinger's descriptions of America
and Americans. We're a big friendly dog, and sometimes our
tail knocks stuff and breaks it. But and and you can,
you know, cite this in looking at the way we
deal with the Muslim world, in dealing with China for
several decades and There are several others examples of this,
But we're we're nice people, Americans in large measure, we

(08:17):
just want to be friends and do business, and so
we have this idiotic assumption that everybody else just wants
to be friends and do business, including space aliens. Right,
you're on Flutron five. Hey, do you want to be
our friend? Do you want to be our friends?

Speaker 1 (08:32):
Sap? Well, no, we'd like to eat you.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
Dar resources that their ray gun. They just zap you
with their ray gun.

Speaker 4 (08:40):
This is what happens, No words necessary. It's what happened
in the horror movie Signs. They started communicating with the
aliens through a baby monitor and everybody died.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
Yeah, the idea that that would automatically somehow benefit humanity
if we did contact a almost certainly superior life format.
How why would you assume that that's really weird that
we ever thought that, let alone it being the consensus
of view.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
It's a very American thing to do, it is.

Speaker 3 (09:11):
The Pentagon has previously said there is no evidence that
UFO sightings are alien spacecraft. Thank god, I don't not.
Since having achieved arguably manhood, have I spent much time
at all thinking about space alien micraft nobly not. It's

(09:32):
it's it's advanced military technologies from ours and other governments obviously.
Now some okay, all right, hey, you know me, mister,
I want to hear the opposing point of view.

Speaker 1 (09:43):
You think it may be.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
A cigar shaped silvery spaceship.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
Is that what you could be?

Speaker 4 (09:48):
That's what I'm thinking. The saucer exactly coming down with
the beam.

Speaker 2 (09:52):
Got the beam picks you up, probes you maybe ainally
and I haven't thought always part of it.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
Yeah, so much probing always part of it. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:07):
Now some of the like miraculous stops and starts and
changes the direction and speed that they've observed in these
craft is I've got to admit it. It looks to
be beyond terrestrial technology. But the fact that I can't

(10:27):
come up with the explanation, partly because I'm not a
physicist nor a DARPA scientist or whatever, does not mean well,
you gotta go to space aliens the next step.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
Right.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
That's well, if if the professional you know, commentator can't
nail down what it is, it must be space aliens. No,
maybe it's some ability to distort and deceive radar systems
and you know, whatever other technologies the jet fighters use
and that sort of thing.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
But God, we should have dug up the best of
Kate McKinnon from Saturday Night Live when she gets, you know,
probed by the aliens, and she'd always pass funny joke. Oh,
they had me strapped up and they looked me over
from my cooder to my tutor before they let me
back down.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
Sure, one hundred and five euphemisms for the female parts,
just absolutely hilarious.

Speaker 4 (11:25):
Hey, remember when the guy told everybody to storm Area
fifty one online and they took.

Speaker 3 (11:29):
Him serious and ended it was just a party outside
everyone every fifty one on gates.

Speaker 1 (11:33):
Yeah, that was a good time.

Speaker 4 (11:36):
Well, I guess that's it.