March 6, 2025 • 10 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
He didn't float. I guess he's guilty. It's one more
thing I'm.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Strong and getty one.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Before we gets a medieval justice, which I had promised
during the radio show.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
Is that your new midday judge show? Yeah, Judge Jack
and Medieval Justice.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Yes, where I use the justice system of the early
teens thirteen fourteen hundreds. I mentioned on the radio show
that I'm considering taking my son to Rolling Loud, California,
twenty twenty five. It's a music festival in Inglewood, California
at Hollywood Park Grounds. I don't know anything about this.
(00:41):
I'm trying to research it, and that's why I threw
it out to you listeners. Would it be safe to
me to go with my son? He's a fifteen year
old white kid. I imagine there'll be lots of fifteen
year old white kids there. I don't know if there'll
be many old white dudes my age there or not. Anyway,
it's Playboy, CARDI, Suicide Boy, Little TJ, Little TJ, yst Grizzly,
(01:03):
Ken Carson. That's why my son wants to go, Thanks
so much, Little Taylor, A bunch of other people I
haven't heard of in neither of you probably, but you
never know what stuff like this. It's either perfectly okay
and it's as many suburban white kids uh and dads
as it is you know, BIPOC people or whatever, and
there's so much money to be made off of T
(01:24):
shirts and expensive colas that it's incredibly safe and blah
blah blah, or it could be a guaranteed shooting outside
after the lights go down. I shouldn't be there, and
I have no idea which right mm, And I threw
it out there for people with their suggestions. I can
tell a lot of the texts I got for people
(01:45):
that haven't.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Been anything like this. You're just making assumptions.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
It's like all the people that used to tell me
don't go to Mexico, and I went to Mexico gazillion times,
had a wonderful time. You didn't have any idea what
you're talking about. You're just basing it on rumors you've heard.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Just forwarded you an email from a in the area.
He runs an airbnb right there, and all it helpful
is he leaning yes or no? Let's see, I'll read
it to you.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Crowds before and after will be urban youth. I go
to Sofi Park in Englewood and walk Actually no danger
for football, danger is walking slow groups fighting generally probably okay,
But transitional space is the problem.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Yeah, that's true for lots of things. Man, It's always
so hard to know based on others. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Yeah, and fear of opinion on most things. But I
have not the slightest idea. I could picture it being
a lot like Disneyland, and also picture it being holy crap,
what have I done right?
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Exactly?
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Do you have any opinion on this, Katie?
Speaker 4 (02:46):
I really don't. I have no clue about this type
of stuff. I can think of rock club well, no,
I don't.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
I don't even know if I want to get into this.
So this person said, go ahead, clubs that I've gone
to many shows at, and some that I've even played at.
That security is wildly different for hip hop shows than
any other show. Just but you know, what's what's you know?
It's like somebody who knows nothing about metal heavy metal music,
(03:18):
for instance.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Assuming that.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Uh Deep Purple is the same as Metallica, is the
same as some Viking death metal outfit I've never heard of. Likewise,
with the hippity hop, what axe draw what sort of
people with what sort of proclivities for settling disputes say.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Well, like I got this text ul Tyler and Playboy
CARDI are they have a really big LGBTQ following, and
the crowd will be that, Well, that's probably a safe
crowd almost. Yeah, so that's that's different than you know,
(04:00):
other rap hip hop crowds would be.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
I just recommend that if you go, you refer to
it as hippity hop the entire time that you're there.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
I do enjoy the hippie hop. Yeah, oh bad, this
is a great hippiie hop concert.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
You might be the oldest white guy there, but your
son will have a really good time. I don't care
about that. I'm not cared care about whether or not
I'm entertained by the music. Somebody else texted it. I
will definitely be a shooting out to the concert, But
I don't know if they're basing that on anything other
than you know, they watch the news.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Well wait a minute, maybe that guy's planning on shooting somewhere.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Because we got this one. My twenty four year old
daughter is driving to that show in Englanwood. She's very
excited about going.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
So I have no idea.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
My guess would be if I was gonna guess, and
I'm gonna try to do more research so I don't
end up in a bad situation. But my guess would
be it's more toward the hip hop Disneyland lots of
money to be made sort of thing, would be my guess,
although I'm not sure what you mean by you know,
there's only lots of money to be made if it's
a family friendly, suburban, white peopleish atmosphere, but mountains of
(05:08):
money to be made in the other direction.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
But I've been to lots of concerts that were fights
freaking everywhere and all kinds of stuff, and I went
and I didn't feel like I was gonna die, so
you know.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
You know what. You know, what concert that I went
to where I saw the most fights was a freaking
country concert.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Oh yeah, Hank Williams Junior. When I went to Kansas City.
Oh my god, I've never seen so many fights. Yeah,
Hank Junior fought the bass player. People were rolling around
in the aisles fighting. You had Oh my god, Oh.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Yeah, the lines, it's the shootings.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (05:44):
It was at the shoreline and these two guys started
brawling up at the top of the lawn and they
went all the way down the hill on the grass.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Oh that's exciting.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
That was the best show in itself. Okay, I need
to get to this.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
So but if you have any opinions on that, if
you think it would actually be dangerous, if you have
any actually experience with this sort of thing, do you
think it would be dangerous or okay for me to
take my son to it. Back to medieval justice, And
I won't take too long on this. I just read
this yesterday on some history Twitter thread and I thought
it was interesting. The way, you know, the whole jury
(06:16):
trial thing is a fairly recent invention, and the idea
that you get to present your evidence and all that
sort of stuff partially with getting God out of the picture.
But back in the old day they had there were
the three ordeals in old timey medieval justice. Without a
formal way of determining someone's guilt or innocence, the accused
were subject to trial by ordeal. There are three types
(06:38):
of ordeals, or deal by fire or deal by.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Water, and ordeal by combat. Oh boy.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
The goal of these ordeals was to subject the accused
to extreme circumstances. If you survive. God wanted you to
survive because.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
You were innocent.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
If you didn't survive, you're clearly guilty in God, let
you die or deal by fire required the accused to
carry a red hot iron nine feet and then have
their hands bandaged. After three days, they were required to
show up in court and show their hands. If the
wounds had started to heal, they were considered innocent if
they if their condition hadn't improved, they'd be found guilty
(07:15):
and either jailed or put the death, depending on the.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Crime ge many there.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Were two different types of ordeal by water. We've heard
about this sort of thing from the Salem witch trials.
If they were subjected to a cold water ordeal, their
hands and feet would be tied and thrown in the water.
If you float, you're innocent. If you sank, I guess
you were guilty. Will you tie my hands to the
deep Brad?
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (07:38):
How crazy is that?
Speaker 1 (07:40):
For hot water ordeals, the accused had to retrieve a
stone from the bottom of a kettle of boiling water,
similar to the ordeal by fire. If your hands began
to heal after three days, you were innocent. You had
third degree burns.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Good golly, all this sounds awful. Is this the smartest
beast on the planet back then as now?
Speaker 1 (08:01):
And we're not smarter? Like our brain power isn't greater
now than it wasn't thirteen hundred, except maybe incremental gains.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
But yeah, right, hey.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Lastly, I would have hated this.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Ordeal by combat was used to help two parties solve
a dispute.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Let's get it on, bitches.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
This was mostly used when there were no witnesses or
confessions to a crime. Two individuals would fight in combat
and the winner would be declared innocent. Who's the other
party to the dispute?
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Can I take a look at him?
Speaker 4 (08:36):
Right?
Speaker 1 (08:36):
I'm only going to get into disputes with old or
weak people.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Well, if it's that, or plunge my hand into a
boiling you know, cauldron of.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Water, Like if I don't know my neighbor Jim keeps
parking his RV and you know my side of the
lot or something like that. But he's twenty five six
four two eighty.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Yeah, let that one go.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Yeah, Oh, that's that's a fine system of justice.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
See if he's the former high school chess champion and
a weedy little dude, I might say, hey, get your
RV off my land. You want to settle this and
trial by combat?
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Yeah, run a little trial by combat, big man. Huh.
They had that in the Game of Thrones that Jamie
Lanister or somebody said, I choose trial by combat, and
everybody's like, oh, oh my god boy. Another thing was
the other dude can say, you know I'm gonna choose
a substitute. Is that because you could do? Is that
what a second was originally? You know, I didn't go
(09:36):
to medieval law school anymore than I went to modern
law school, but I know there is a thing where
you can appoint a substitute. Oh wow, cool, and the
two of them fight, and if both parties do that,
then if your guy loses, well, clearly God meant for
you to be guilty and you get executed or what
(09:56):
have you?
Speaker 1 (09:57):
What the hell, Jim, or even trying out there now?
Empty man, Why don't you keep your left up? You
blew it, Jim, stick and move, stick and move, Jim.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
No, I'm guilty.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Now I gotta like stick my hand in a bottle
of boiling water or some some ass.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Well, I guess that's it.
He didn't float. I guess he's guilty. It's one more
thing I'm.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Strong and getty one.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Before we gets a medieval justice, which I had promised
during the radio show.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
Is that your new midday judge show? Yeah, Judge Jack
and Medieval Justice.
Speaker 1 (00:20):
Yes, where I use the justice system of the early
teens thirteen fourteen hundreds. I mentioned on the radio show
that I'm considering taking my son to Rolling Loud, California,
twenty twenty five. It's a music festival in Inglewood, California
at Hollywood Park Grounds. I don't know anything about this.
(00:41):
I'm trying to research it, and that's why I threw
it out to you listeners. Would it be safe to
me to go with my son? He's a fifteen year
old white kid. I imagine there'll be lots of fifteen
year old white kids there. I don't know if there'll
be many old white dudes my age there or not. Anyway,
it's Playboy, CARDI, Suicide Boy, Little TJ, Little TJ, yst Grizzly,
(01:03):
Ken Carson. That's why my son wants to go, Thanks
so much, Little Taylor, A bunch of other people I
haven't heard of in neither of you probably, but you
never know what stuff like this. It's either perfectly okay
and it's as many suburban white kids uh and dads
as it is you know, BIPOC people or whatever, and
there's so much money to be made off of T
(01:24):
shirts and expensive colas that it's incredibly safe and blah
blah blah, or it could be a guaranteed shooting outside
after the lights go down. I shouldn't be there, and
I have no idea which right mm, And I threw
it out there for people with their suggestions. I can
tell a lot of the texts I got for people
(01:45):
that haven't.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
Been anything like this. You're just making assumptions.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
It's like all the people that used to tell me
don't go to Mexico, and I went to Mexico gazillion times,
had a wonderful time. You didn't have any idea what
you're talking about. You're just basing it on rumors you've heard.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Just forwarded you an email from a in the area.
He runs an airbnb right there, and all it helpful
is he leaning yes or no? Let's see, I'll read
it to you.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Crowds before and after will be urban youth. I go
to Sofi Park in Englewood and walk Actually no danger
for football, danger is walking slow groups fighting generally probably okay,
But transitional space is the problem.
Speaker 1 (02:24):
Yeah, that's true for lots of things. Man, It's always
so hard to know based on others. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
Yeah, and fear of opinion on most things. But I
have not the slightest idea. I could picture it being
a lot like Disneyland, and also picture it being holy crap,
what have I done right?
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Exactly?
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Do you have any opinion on this, Katie?
Speaker 4 (02:46):
I really don't. I have no clue about this type
of stuff. I can think of rock club well, no,
I don't.
Speaker 3 (02:54):
I don't even know if I want to get into this.
So this person said, go ahead, clubs that I've gone
to many shows at, and some that I've even played at.
That security is wildly different for hip hop shows than
any other show. Just but you know, what's what's you know?
It's like somebody who knows nothing about metal heavy metal music,
(03:18):
for instance.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
Assuming that.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
Uh Deep Purple is the same as Metallica, is the
same as some Viking death metal outfit I've never heard of. Likewise,
with the hippity hop, what axe draw what sort of
people with what sort of proclivities for settling disputes say.
Speaker 1 (03:38):
Well, like I got this text ul Tyler and Playboy
CARDI are they have a really big LGBTQ following, and
the crowd will be that, Well, that's probably a safe
crowd almost. Yeah, so that's that's different than you know,
(04:00):
other rap hip hop crowds would be.
Speaker 4 (04:02):
I just recommend that if you go, you refer to
it as hippity hop the entire time that you're there.
Speaker 3 (04:08):
I do enjoy the hippie hop. Yeah, oh bad, this
is a great hippiie hop concert.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
You might be the oldest white guy there, but your
son will have a really good time. I don't care
about that. I'm not cared care about whether or not
I'm entertained by the music. Somebody else texted it. I
will definitely be a shooting out to the concert, But
I don't know if they're basing that on anything other
than you know, they watch the news.
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Well wait a minute, maybe that guy's planning on shooting somewhere.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Because we got this one. My twenty four year old
daughter is driving to that show in Englanwood. She's very
excited about going.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
So I have no idea.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
My guess would be if I was gonna guess, and
I'm gonna try to do more research so I don't
end up in a bad situation. But my guess would
be it's more toward the hip hop Disneyland lots of
money to be made sort of thing, would be my guess,
although I'm not sure what you mean by you know,
there's only lots of money to be made if it's
a family friendly, suburban, white peopleish atmosphere, but mountains of
(05:08):
money to be made in the other direction.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
But I've been to lots of concerts that were fights
freaking everywhere and all kinds of stuff, and I went
and I didn't feel like I was gonna die, so
you know.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
You know what. You know, what concert that I went
to where I saw the most fights was a freaking
country concert.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
Oh yeah, Hank Williams Junior. When I went to Kansas City.
Oh my god, I've never seen so many fights. Yeah,
Hank Junior fought the bass player. People were rolling around
in the aisles fighting. You had Oh my god, Oh.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
Yeah, the lines, it's the shootings.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (05:44):
It was at the shoreline and these two guys started
brawling up at the top of the lawn and they
went all the way down the hill on the grass.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Oh that's exciting.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
That was the best show in itself. Okay, I need
to get to this.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
So but if you have any opinions on that, if
you think it would actually be dangerous, if you have
any actually experience with this sort of thing, do you
think it would be dangerous or okay for me to
take my son to it. Back to medieval justice, And
I won't take too long on this. I just read
this yesterday on some history Twitter thread and I thought
it was interesting. The way, you know, the whole jury
(06:16):
trial thing is a fairly recent invention, and the idea
that you get to present your evidence and all that
sort of stuff partially with getting God out of the picture.
But back in the old day they had there were
the three ordeals in old timey medieval justice. Without a
formal way of determining someone's guilt or innocence, the accused
were subject to trial by ordeal. There are three types
(06:38):
of ordeals, or deal by fire or deal by.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Water, and ordeal by combat. Oh boy.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
The goal of these ordeals was to subject the accused
to extreme circumstances. If you survive. God wanted you to
survive because.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
You were innocent.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
If you didn't survive, you're clearly guilty in God, let
you die or deal by fire required the accused to
carry a red hot iron nine feet and then have
their hands bandaged. After three days, they were required to
show up in court and show their hands. If the
wounds had started to heal, they were considered innocent if
they if their condition hadn't improved, they'd be found guilty
(07:15):
and either jailed or put the death, depending on the.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
Crime ge many there.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
Were two different types of ordeal by water. We've heard
about this sort of thing from the Salem witch trials.
If they were subjected to a cold water ordeal, their
hands and feet would be tied and thrown in the water.
If you float, you're innocent. If you sank, I guess
you were guilty. Will you tie my hands to the
deep Brad?
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (07:38):
How crazy is that?
Speaker 1 (07:40):
For hot water ordeals, the accused had to retrieve a
stone from the bottom of a kettle of boiling water,
similar to the ordeal by fire. If your hands began
to heal after three days, you were innocent. You had
third degree burns.
Speaker 3 (07:54):
Good golly, all this sounds awful. Is this the smartest
beast on the planet back then as now?
Speaker 1 (08:01):
And we're not smarter? Like our brain power isn't greater
now than it wasn't thirteen hundred, except maybe incremental gains.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
But yeah, right, hey.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Lastly, I would have hated this.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Ordeal by combat was used to help two parties solve
a dispute.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Let's get it on, bitches.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
This was mostly used when there were no witnesses or
confessions to a crime. Two individuals would fight in combat
and the winner would be declared innocent. Who's the other
party to the dispute?
Speaker 3 (08:33):
Can I take a look at him?
Speaker 4 (08:36):
Right?
Speaker 1 (08:36):
I'm only going to get into disputes with old or
weak people.
Speaker 3 (08:42):
Well, if it's that, or plunge my hand into a
boiling you know, cauldron of.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Water, Like if I don't know my neighbor Jim keeps
parking his RV and you know my side of the
lot or something like that. But he's twenty five six
four two eighty.
Speaker 2 (09:01):
Yeah, let that one go.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Yeah, Oh, that's that's a fine system of justice.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
See if he's the former high school chess champion and
a weedy little dude, I might say, hey, get your
RV off my land. You want to settle this and
trial by combat?
Speaker 3 (09:14):
Yeah, run a little trial by combat, big man. Huh.
They had that in the Game of Thrones that Jamie
Lanister or somebody said, I choose trial by combat, and
everybody's like, oh, oh my god boy. Another thing was
the other dude can say, you know I'm gonna choose
a substitute. Is that because you could do? Is that
what a second was originally? You know, I didn't go
(09:36):
to medieval law school anymore than I went to modern
law school, but I know there is a thing where
you can appoint a substitute. Oh wow, cool, and the
two of them fight, and if both parties do that,
then if your guy loses, well, clearly God meant for
you to be guilty and you get executed or what
(09:56):
have you?
Speaker 1 (09:57):
What the hell, Jim, or even trying out there now?
Empty man, Why don't you keep your left up? You
blew it, Jim, stick and move, stick and move, Jim.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
No, I'm guilty.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Now I gotta like stick my hand in a bottle
of boiling water or some some ass.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Well, I guess that's it.
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