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June 3, 2024 35 mins
Erin Lee joins Dan to discuss her work with former state Sen. Kevin Lundberg (R-Berthoud) on ballot initiatives seeking to ban biological boys in girls' sports, require schools to notify parents over 'gender incongruence.'

Also, Dan postulates and ponders whether President Biden might actually prefer a guilty verdict for his son Hunter to prove the justice system is fair in the wake of the Trump trial.
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This is Dan Caplis and welcome totoday's online podcast edition of The Dan Caplis
Show. Please be sure to giveus a five star rating if you'd be
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single day on your favorite podcast platform. As predicted, in fact, the
day before the conviction. The convictionof Donald Trump is going to do him

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more good on election day than hadhe been acquitted. And I think we're
seeing the proof of that in multipleways right now. You know, is
it a straight line. Nothing inlife is right here, always that if
you're winning the two or three stepsforward, one step back. But overall,
clearly at this point what I expectedto happen is happening. And this
is going to be very very goodfor Donald Trump come election day. So

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we'll have some of the latest includingcontributions. According to the Trump campaign,
the post conviction contributions are now upto two hundred million. Now. Critically,
campaign says seventy seven zero million ofthat is quote small donations, and
they give the example of twenty dollarsforty dollars, and obviously, you know
you want as much of this twohundred million to be small donations. As

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possible, right, because then thatmeans more people are enthusiastic, they're intense,
they're on fire, They're going togo out and do other things as
well. So yeah, seventy millionin small donations since the wrongful conviction.
Yeah, that is very very encouraging. Two hundred million overall not bad itself,
right, considering Joe Biden, thisvaunted fundraising machine raised I think it

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was somewhere around fifty million in Apriland just since the wrongful conviction. You
can see the Trump numbers. Ialso read something significant into the large donor
convictions since large donor contributions that showconviction and show commitment to Trump since the
wrongful conviction, because you know obviouslythat big money comes in chunks and you

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need your fair share of that tobe able to compete on the money front.
Not that the money front is everything, right, I mean, how
many people did you see at lunchtoday drinking new coke? Right? And
they spent a lot of money marketingnew coke and and the Jeb Bush presidency.
I know a lot of people reallyenjoyed it. Yeah. Wait,
there wasn't one. And Jeb Bushat one time was dwarfing the field in

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contribution. So yeah, money isn'teverything, but particularly in this situation,
I think it's a powerful indicator ofthe underlying outrage and the big move toward
Trump since then. So we'll talkmore about that today in other ways as
well. Eight five five for zerofive eight two five to five the number?
Will this? What will this wrongfulconviction of Trump be enough to unify

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the Colorado GOP in a way thatallows it to win statewide? Would love
your take on that also, asyou know, throwback and I love callers.
Eight five five for zero five eighttwo five five the number, or
you can text d an five sevenseven three nine. We have so much
more on the agenda today, Lotsgoing on locally as well, though I

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see this, all of this flowingout of the wrongful conviction of Trump has
a profound impact locally as well asnationally, and will continue to break that
down. But we have other topics. The start of the Hunter Biden trial
today. A question out there foryou, do you think Joe Biden wants

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to see Hunter Biden convicted? Thinkabout that for a second and I'll get
back to that, But do youthink he wants to see Hunter convicted.
Is it to Joe Biden's political advantageto have Hunter Biden convicted particularly right now
today? So on June three,And of course the conviction won't come down

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today, that'll be later. Theyjust had jury selection today. I think
they got their jury. I'll doublecheck that, but Jerry selection today,
I do At some point I wantto talk with you about Kit Clark.
We're not a sports show. Obviously, we talk about sports on air.
We talk about sports in the breakall the time. We talk about sports
on air when it transcends sports,and certainly what's happening to Caitlyn Clark in

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women's professional basketball right now does that? So we'll want to get to that.
Is it racism? Is it genderpreference? I mean, what is
behind the mauling of Caitlin Clark rightnow on the court? Or is it
something else? And as you maygather from the way I pose the question,

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I'm in that third something else category. But do want to get into
that with you. Just a quicknote, congrats to Mark Johnson, the
baseball coach at Cherry Creek for fiftysomething years. Right now, what an
accomplishment went out with the state titleand over a great Regis team coached by
Matt darr Is, also a greatcoach and just one of those feel good
cool This is the best of whathigh school sports is all about kind of

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stories. So congrats to Mark everybodyassociated with the program and that accomplishment.
All right, let's get to it. I want you to hear this back
and forth between Meghan Kelly, who'sreally i'd say emerging, but you know,
she's been good for a long time. But Meghan Kelly now is certainly
moving to the front of the packin terms of skilled combatants on behalf of

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Donald Trump. Not always, butvery often. And here she is toe
to toe with Dan Abrams. Andthis isn't the precise question here, but
I do want to ask you therelated question, because Meghan Kelly and others
have been advocating this, do youbelieve that it's time for GOP attorney Attorneys
General, GOP elected prosecutors, etc. To start prosecuting and convicting democrats,

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you know, for crimes they havecommitted. Now, obviously I don't believe
Donald Trump committed a crime here.I believe everything I've told you about that
trial in New York. But insituations where Democrats are actually guilty of crimes?
Is a time for the GOP tostart arresting them? Well, you
want to get the indictment for first, the indictment, the arrest, conviction,

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et cetera. Or would that bethe wrong thing to do and a
tragic mistake politically. So I wantto get your take on that as well.
So here's Dan Abrams and Megan Kelly. There's wrongdoing here? Right,
There was definitely wrongdoing whether it shouldhave been a crime. As a separate
what's the wrongdoing? What's the wrongdoing? All? Right? Number one,
it's paying one hundred and thirty thousanddollars to a porn star to keep her

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quiet. That's worth to try toprotect your campaign? Can we at least
agree that's wrong? It's not illegal? No, No, I just said
wrong. Are we talking moral?I made it clear, I'm making it
clear for a minute, I'm talkingabout morality versus legalon right, there's no
doubt that he engaged in right,I'll tell here's my response to that.

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And I said this on my showthe other day. I don't know what
kind of weird marriage these two have, same as I didn't know what kind
of weird marriage Billet and Hillary Clintonhad, so I don't know what their
covenant is in terms of what he'sallowed to do on the outside of his
marriage. Don't mind the sex problem, but I'm not talking about the sex.
I'm talking about one hundred and thirtythousand dollars to keep her quiet to

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protect his campaign. There's nothing wrongwith that at all, nothing really okay.
Look, if somebody runs for office, they just lose the right to
have any privacy. They just tolet us see all their dirty laundry from
the moment they declare forward or somehowthey've done something morally wrong or legally wrong.
When you're doing it to protect thecampaign and you are spending money on

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it, then now I'm going toswitch back to the legal You are now
crossing the line into legal products,right, aren't. That's no, absolutely
not right, incorrect at every level. Again, the idea that that let
me, Let me back up.And you don't think he falsified business records
either. I don't know what hedid. I don't think he wrote that

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every detail of this. How canyou not know? Let me answer,
Please, let me answer. Idon't think he wrote down hush money payment
to Stormy Daniels. Nobody who payshush money would write down such a thing.
I think he wrote down or someoneat the Trump organization wrote down legal
expenses from the drop down Adobe menu, And that made as much sense as
anything else, because hush money wasn'tan option. He was paying his lawyer

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who had made the payment to StormyDaniels, and he was I believe,
reimbursing her, though he denied that, reimbursing him, though he denied that.
Understand, I don't think there's anythingwrong with doing that. I think
you pay your lawyer money because heoutlaid money for you. You could easily
classify that as a legal expense nomatter what it's for. Right, even
if it's illegal conduct, you canjust put it. It's a legal expense.

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Right. This wasn't This wasn't illegal. There's nothing illegal about paying hush
money for an NDA. And we'llget back to the rest of that which
has gone viral. But here's whatthe left can never get away from.
Clearly, this charge against these chargesagainst Trump were brought for political purposes.

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They would not have been brought unlessDonald Trump was Donald Trump. So it
wasn't a matter of what he'd done. It was a matter of who he
was that there is no question aboutthat whatsoever. There's no question that there
was no actual independent felony committed.First of all, he didn't commit any
crimes. But initially it was amisdemeanor. Statute of Limitations had run on

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that on the issue of accounting.And second they tried to make it a
felony by saying it was a federalelection offense. That was a misdemeanor as
well. So they had to,in this highly politically motivated approach, combine
one set of misdemeanors the Statute ofLimitations had run on with another set of
misdemeanors to try to claim a felony. And there were so many more problems

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with that. But the reason Imake that point and played that tape is
this, Democrats, and I'll playthe tape for you when we come back
our relying on convicted felon Donald Trump. Guess what that label means nothing to
the Americans who are going to decidethis election because they know this alleged felony
is a first. So everybody youdecide to call Donald Trump convicted felon is

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only hurting their own credibility. Hey, we will also have at four thirty
six Aaron Lee with us to talkabout this volunteer effort underway to put parental
notification and no boys in girls' sportson the Colorado ballot. That at four
thirty six you're on the Dan CaplaShow and now back to the Dan Taplas
Show podcast. Not on this case. It doesn't because this is a case

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just like your legal panel just debated, where smart lawyers, lawyers without a
political affiliation are saying that this caseis flawed in many regards and an appeal
is at least at least a doableappeal to say the January sixth case,
it could. Yeah, but Ialso but listen, I think that this

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case is unique. I think thatwhen you have a case where the statute
of limitations has run and the onlyway you can revi I have the cases
by cooking a federal crime, that'swhere the appeal is. That's the appeal.
And that started out with Ryan's previousformer head of the GOP saying Donald
Trump convicted felon that label doesn't worryhim in this case because of the nature

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of the the wrongful conviction behind it. Eight five five for zero five eight
two five five the number textda Nfive seven seven thirty nine. Lots on
the agenda today, including lots locallyhere in Colorado. Four to thirty six,
Aaron Lee joins us talk about thisgrassroots effort to put on the ballot
these measures to for example, keepboys out of girls' sports, men's out

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of women's sports, parental notification ofgender change quote unquote related issues, et
cetera. So Aaron Lee on thatat four thirty six, I want to
get to some more of this hottake sound of the day. President Trump
out there, and obviously I thinkthe more often he's out there right now,
the better. Had a great appearanceat UFC over the weekend, and

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this was New Jersey, a tremendousreception, as you would imagine. Sean
Strickland of fighters shouted him out atthe end of one of the bouts.
The Trump, you're the man,wrote to the damn travesty what they're doing
now, I'll be donating you,my man. Let's get it done.
Get it done. Second, ladygentlemen. Yeah, And that's so important,

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right because I mean, you lookat the demo of the folks behind
UFC, and it does not matchup with kind of the typical demo of
a Trump rally, you know,so much younger, so much more diverse,
et cetera. So just more evidenceof everything we've been talking about,
everything positive when it comes to Trumpand post conviction. Speaking on the money

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front, and this is a pointI made last week and affairs repeating because
this time it was made by oneof the billionaires who have lined up behind
Trump since since the wrongful conviction.And this is a guy named David Sachs
out of Silicon Valley and who isn'tright, but he's pledging a lot of
money, getting a bunch of otherrich guys together to give a lot of
money. I think the minimum buyin for his deal, if I read

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it right, is about three hundredgrand. But anyway, here's what he
said, And again this is apoint I've been hammering. He said,
post conviction, there is now onlyone issue in this election, whether the
American people will stand for the USAbecoming a banana republic. And that is
such a key point because think aboutit. I mean, first of all,

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that the folks who are going tobag Trump, are thinking about backing
Trump, are now fired up offthe scales. But beyond that, the
folks who didn't want to vote forTrump are now going to vote for him.
But they're going to vote for himbecause it's the only way to stop
the Left. They're not voting theseadditional folks aren't voting for Trump because they
like him, or they out votingfor Trump because they want to advance Trump.

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This whole other block of people nowgoing to be voting for Trump because
it's the only way to stop theLeft. It's the only way to stop
America from becoming a banana republic.That that is, that is the secret
sauce. Now that is such ahuge dynamic in this race moving forward,
which leads me to my question foryou. Let's see if anybody answered it

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on text, and that is,do you think Joe Biden wants Hunter Biden
convicted? Because, as you know, Hunter Biden goes on trial this week
that picked a jury today on thegun charge. And this is the charge
that he, you know, falsifieddocuments relating to a gun purchase, that
he wasn't an addict when he knewhe was. And then there are other

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related charges and he's obviously, myconstitutionally protected opinion and that of many,
many others. He's obviously guilty atall on all of these charges, and
the Feds we're going to give hima break on these until a courageous judge
stepped in and said, no,wait a second, We've got to ask
some questions here, and Hunter Bidenwithdraw the police. So now he's on

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trial. Do you think his fatherwants him convicted? Ponder that for a
second related question. Does Joe Bidenbenefit more from Hunter Biden being convicted or
not being convicted in this trial wherehe's just dead and nuts guilty by all
accounts, Ask yourself that question.I think clearly. I think clearly Joe

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Biden benefits politically by having Hunter Bidenconvicted because at that point he could say,
oh, no, equal justice underthe law for all Trump's really guilty.
See, my son was convicted aswell. But I love my son.
He's the smartest guy I've ever known. I'm totally devoted to him as
a parent. Because that's how theDems are trying to spin it now,
right, is Joe Biden great parentsstanding by his child, etc. That's

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how they're trying to spin this wholeTobacco well, keep this in mind.
If you were to say to yourself, oh, there's no way Joe Biden
or any father could ever want tohave their child convicted, I would say
any father was a normal relationship withhis child, you bad. But also
keep this in mind that Joe Bidenwas using Hunter Biden as a bagman to

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collect money from some of the worstactors in the world. You know,
during these times when Hunter Biden wasstruggling with addiction. And even if he
hadn't been struggling with addiction, whatfather does that to a son. Yeah,
So think about that when it comesto who Joe Biden really is and

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what he really wants here. Soyeah, I think he benefits a lot
politically from Hunter Biden being convicted here. I think it hurts them politically if
Hunter Biden is acquitted in a casewhere Hunter Biden is clearly guilty and obviously
these charges this trial doesn't involve anawful lot of the more pertinent allegations against

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Hunter Biden. I mean, theseare serious charges, serious issues. But
Hunter Biden has been involved, alongwith Joe Biden, you know, in
an awful lot of very very shadystuff, and these charges don't involve any
of that. In fact, asany McCarthy reported so well, the US
attorney involved allowed the statute of limitationsto run on certain charges that would have

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gone right to the heart of thatperiod of time when Joe Biden was in
office and Hunter Biden was out collectingmoney. Doug and Frederick, you're on
the Dan Kaplis Show. Welcome,Hi, Dan. I appreciate you.
I was thinking who could I turnto. I was looking forward to calling
you to break down exactly what itis Trump is guilty of. What the

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federal charges they hooked to this tomove it from a misdemeanor, and of
course the precedent in this is justunbelievable. What this will do to our
country or could do to our countryhas done to our country. The other
thing I wanted to say, Danwas a did you see with a CNN
top analyst Legal analyst? Yeah,Ellie honid Is he's saying this is all

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bogus. Yeah, Ann right,And he's really emerging. And I've been
in this on air local network legalanalysis since it really started to hit back
in the nineties, and he isemerging as one of the greats because and
I don't agree with everything he says, but because of his willingness to break

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with that leftist gript So we'll touchon all of that on the other side
on the Dan Kaplas Show. You'relistening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast,
Doctor Fauci. One of the controversialregulations of the pandemic was the six foot
distancing role. This role became animportant policy consideration in subsequent regulations. However,

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you testified recently, and I'm quoting, this six foot role sort of
just appeared. Do you think thata role that sort of just appeared is
substantial justification for the regulations that wesaw based on that six foot role?
Congressman, thank you for that question. I am so that, but I'll

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summarize it briefly for you. Whensaying it just appeared, it came from
the CDC. Oh my lord.You know, I think of all these
people who for their own political,personal, selfish motivations, inflicted all this
harm, particularly on the children.And I hope voters remember that. I
hope they remember it forever. Ihope they remember it about Jared Polus and

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others in Colorado. I hope theyremember it about Joe Biden and the Democrats,
and because come on, and thisleads into my next guest. When
we talk about when we talk aboutpolicy differences and things like that, Listen,
there should be one thing that's sacredright, and that's the best interests
of the child. But over andover and over again we see from the

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left this utter and at times totaldisregard for the benefit of children. And
you just wonder how people ever getto that point, you know, where
they're willing to just trample on children. They're willing to support the mass killing
children before birth, all sorts ofother horrible things for children because they think
it advances them politically. Well,one person who's fighting back against that is

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our next guest, Aaron Lee.She's joining with the Senator Kevin Lumberg to
try to put on the Colorado ballotssome measures that would give parents some more
information and restore some sanity. Aaron, Welcome to the Dan Kapla Show.
Hey Dan, thanks for having me. Well my pleasure. And obviously we've
talked before, and we've talked atlinks about your experience with your child at

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a school, and I do wantto touch on that again today and blend
it any way you'd like to buttell folks about this ballot measure, what
it is and how they can supportit if they'd like. Yeah, well,
I'm really proud to be part ofProtect Kids Colorado and we're a pretty
new organization, and we're a broadcoalition of parents, concerned grandparents that citizens

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who are not okay with the directionof gender ideology in our states, specifically
parents being kept in the dark abouttheir child's social transition at school, which
is what happened to us, andI'm happy to dig into the details of
our situation. But then also keepingbiological males out of single sex female sports,

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and both of these are just reallyeasy, common sense, simple initiatives
that both sides are getting behind.That your parents shouldn't be lied to,
and that we fought really hard forwomen's single sex competitive spaces and those should
be preserved for just biological females.Before we get more in detail, how

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can people help here, How canthey sign how can they pass petitions around?
What are the mechanics of this?Yeah, so go to Protect Kids
Colorado dot org. We encourage peopleto sign up to carry a petition or
even just find a place to signone. We're on kind of a tight
deadline. We need one hundred andtwenty five thousand signatures by August fifth is

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our death line, and so we'vealready got thousands of petitions in hand.
We've got distribution points set up aroundthe state. But in Colorado, they
have legislated this process to death,and I think a lot of people don't
even know about the Citizens Ballid Initiativeprocess. We're one of twenty five states
who have this opportunity for citizens tomake law, and in Colorado, our

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legislatures so off the rails. Wecan't even play defense on these anti parents,
pro erasing women laws that are beingpassed, and so we're taking matters
into our own hands. And thisis truly a grassroots effort. We're all
volunteers here who've jumped on because wecare about these issues and we've got to

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hold the line for sanity in thestate of Colorado. And this is a
really easy way for people to getinvolved. So it's a Protect Kids Colorado
dot org and we hope that peoplewill sign up just to get eighty signatures.
Each petition has eighty lines and it'sreally easy. Take it to church,
take it to a sporting event,and take it to your family reunion.

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It's really easy to get aby signaturesand this is a way that everyone
can get involved in improving our fates. Yeah, and the Democratic Party picnic.
I'd be really interested to see howmany signatures you'd get there, because
I bet it would be more thanexpected. Aaron Lee, our guest,
Aaron, give us more detail onthe printal notification piece of this. Yeah.
So back in November, we filedour first initiative, and we filed

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twenty initiatives to the title Board,which is comprised of the Attorney General and
the Secretary of State Representation, andthey completely illegally, unconstitutionally barred us from
getting majority of them through, evensaying the word parent was too broad to
be a single subject. So westarted with a comprehensive parental bill of rights,

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your parents' right to view all curriculum, to consent to mental and medical
health care, and to be notifiedif their child's been transitioned to the opposite
sex. And this is the onethat we got through. We had to
break them down sent in by sentence, and the three that we got through
out of the twenty, we werethen challenged by one Colorado and Jared Polis's
lawyer and to the Colorado Supreme Court. Unfortunately we won those challenges. So

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the perical notification is one sentence.It's very simple. It just says,
if someone in a public school,someone who works at the public school becomes
aware that a child has transitioned tothe opposite sex or is experiencing gender incongruence,
meaning identifying as the sex they werenot born with, then you have
forty eight hours to notify the parent. And you know, we get this

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pushback, your anti LGBTQ, antithis. No, we're just pro transparency.
No, parents would still have aright to transition their own child,
but you can't transition my child andlie to me about it. Well,
and you're pro child by being proparent, and you're propared by being pro child,
So what are they afraid of?So so glad you're doing this.
Aaron Lee. Now, in thetwo minutes we have, can you summarize

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for folks your own experience in thecircumstance. Yeah, my twelve year old
daughter you mentioned COVID at the heightof COVID, was recruited by a teacher
under false pretenses into a gender andsexuality awareness club disguised as an art club,
and she brought an outside activist thattold my daughter, if you're not
fully comfortable in your biological sex,that means you're transgender. Oh, you

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don't know who you're sexually attracted to, that means you're queer. They talked
about polyamory, how to get pubertyblockers, how to see a doctor and
not tell us at twelve years oldin the state of Colorado, and they
continually emphasized, don't tell your parents. Don't tell your parents. They might
not be safe. And so we'relucky she broke that rule and told us
what happened. But she was captured. You know, they had planted feeds

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in the public school and then theycaptured her in this meeting. Of course,
she was uncomfortable as a twelve yearold girl who just started putty and
really fell into that identity. Andit took nine months and suicidal ideation,
and we went through a really darktime with her because the transgender label didn't
fit. We didn't know how tohelp her, and therapists and the state
are obligated to make it worse byaffirming. And so we're lucky we got

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her out of it. And that'swhy we went public and why we're fighting
for the hundreds and hundreds of familieswho have now reached out to me with
very similar issues, people from allside of the political spectrum, people with
faith and without faith, whose childwas transitioned at school to the opposite sex
and they were left in the dark. And so it is a prevalent issue.
People don't hear about it very oftenbecause people like me are usually afraid

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to go public. They're just tryingto save their child from this ideology.
So we represent those many, manyfamilies who have been deceived by the public
school and been left out of suchan important situation. You know, their
child's going through mental distress and theyneed their parents more than ever, and
it's dangerous to cut the parents' onlyso impressed with the way you're standing up

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protect kids Colorado dot org. Eric, Let's make this a regular thing.
Wyannt you back on the show?Wannt you updating on the campaign, recruiting
more people to help you and hopefullywill get on the ballot. I would
love that, Dan, thank you, Erin appreciate the time you take care.
I'm telling you that's the best ofAmerica. Right when people rise up,

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they have this personal experience and theysay, wait a second, I
don't want this happening to any otherkid, any other family. And they
rise up and they put the workin. They're willing to put themselves out
on that limb. So yeah fortech kids, Colorado dot org check it
out. What do you think ofthose two ballot measures? Do you think
Joe Biden really wants Hunter Biden convicted? Here and the latest evidence, and
there's plenty of it that Donald Trumpis gaining tremendously politically from the wrongful conviction.

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You're on the Dankplace Show and nowback to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
There are a number of reasons tobelieve that the Trump appeal in the
Alvin Bragg case will be successful.You still think that, I do look
very few of us outside Manhattan andhave a lot of faith in the New

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York legal him right now and theformer president may have some rough sledding on
the first level of appeal, butafter that, I think that some of
these glaring errors will become more pronouncedfor judges. I think eventually it will
go in front of the Supreme Court. In my view, it's it would

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be impossible to sustain this verdict.I mean this, There are so many
problems, so many errors that werecommitted by Judge Marshawn. But we may
have to wait a bit. Islikely to occur after the election, which
is what many people in Manhattan werehoping for. Yeah, and he makes
such a critical point that I've hammeredon before. Wait a second, Truly,

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who outside of Lower Manhattan would haveany confidence in Elvin Bragg and any
confidence in that process we just sawunfold. Now, obviously the people who
already Trump are already leaning against alreadyyou know, opposing Trump. You know
they love it, right, Buttruly, what objective reasonable person in the

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middle, whether they have twenty yearsof education or one day of education,
what reason would they have to haveany confidence in that New York State justice
system what they just saw unfold?And this occurred to me over the weekend
because I use this term often onair. Everybody does, and everybody always
has this term justice system. Butthen it occurred to me over the weekend.

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I shouldn't do that, because it'sjust like for decades on air,
I've told people, listen, whensomebody tells you the jury this and the
jury that. I put that aside, because that there is no quote jury,
there is a collection of individual jurors. And that's how you have to

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think about these cases. When you'rethinking about evidence argument, who's going to
win, who's going to lose?If there's no one jury, there's a
collection of individual jurors. Same thing'strue when comes to quote justice system.
There is no one justice system.You have all of these individual justice systems,

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first on a state level, andthen within each state you have these
separate, distinct, separately functioning individualjustice systems from county to county. And
I think you can make some fairstatements overall. I know Colorado best,
but I certainly know some others.You can make some fair statements overall about
Colorado, And it's a justice systemhere I think very very highly of having

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worked in it for forty years.Perfect, no, but no human endeavor
is. And then you go tocertain other states and just because Colorado overall
I think has a not perfect buta very good justice system, does that
mean that they do in other statesas well? So, yeah, there
is no one justice system. Andthe point being, even on the federal
level, I mean, then yes, you have your DOJ and everything else

(30:55):
but you still have individual states,individual US attorneys often functioning. Well,
come on, it's you know,the president is the president, and the
president, you know, has thatkind of power and authority over DJ.
But you still have these individual USattorneys. And then you look at Colorado,
where, overall my forty year experiencehopefully another forty to come as Colorado

(31:18):
overall has a very good justice system. Then you look inside Colorado and you
look at individual district attorneys particularly,you know, this very very tragic development
now of having some of these farleft district attorneys who, in my constitutionally
protected opinion quite obviously are not viewingit as the kind of sacred trust that
so many das from both sides havein the past, but are highly politicizing

(31:42):
their decisions. Yeah, if you'rea left to you get a pass on
virtually anything. And then if you'rerighting, hey man, you better not
spit on sidewalker. They'll never seeagain. Right. So, Yeah,
there is no one justice system.That's another reason why, as I predicted
the day before the conviction, theactual conviction is going to be better for
Trump politically than an acquittal, becauseno sane person in their right mind gives

(32:07):
any credibility to that process. Theyjust saw and fold in New York.
And by the way, where isthe national affinity for New York City?
I mean, hey, I'm admireand respect the great history and some of
the great people and accomplishments. Butnew York City itself. You think the
rest of America sits around and says, oh, yeah, new York City

(32:28):
says he's guilty, he must reallybe guilty. No, it's probably much
more of the opposite. All right, we'll go back to Doug in Frederick.
Doug was kind enough to be withus earlier. Doug, And so
how would you summarize the big pressingquestions that you have. Well, the
overarching quote, well, fact isthis is I was thinking about it that

(32:51):
Left has done exactly what's never beendone in this country. This president has
never been said purposely because I thinkwell, well thoughtful people on both sides
of the aisle throughout the course ofour history realized that this is this is
politicizing our our justice system to takeout a political opponentide it's a complete breakdown

(33:14):
of what America is supposed to be. And I want to tie that in.
I'll make your last point too,that you just made about the Democrats.
They waited to waited as long sothey can't appeal won't go through until
after the election. If you would, Dan, I really want to get
your opinion on the Statute of limitationsand how they got around that, and
secondly, how did they move itfrom a misdemeanor to a supposed felony with

(33:39):
the with the federal link to it. I don't understand that, and I
guess that's there's other things. Ofcourse, the great lawyer from a from
CNN, I think he needs tobe a given credit for his chance.
But I wanted to get your take, So you're taking my fall again,
Dad. Thank you. Doug reallyreally do appreciate that, and and I

(33:59):
think in the end it really isvery simple. You had these misdemeanor bookkeeping
charges, false entry and business records, the Statute of Limitations had run on
those in twenty nineteen. And thenyou had those misdemeanors that the Statute of
Limitations had run on. You hadthose combined with a claim that Trump had

(34:20):
violated misdemeanors pertaining to election finance.And then you had a charge that was
based on well, you know,if he or the allegation was that he
did make these false entries in businessrecords in order to cover up, you
know, these alleged election finance violationsthan all of the submits of felony.

(34:43):
So that's how they cobbled all ofthis together. And the reason I get
into that detail is I think it'sone of the many, many reasons he's
going to win on appeal, andI've never been more certain of anything.
Eventually, Trump will win on appeal. The only question is what level,
But as the left calculated, it'llbe after election day. But again,
Trump's benefiting from all this in thecourt of public opinion.
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