Colo State Senator Barb Kirkmeyer joins Dan to discuss calls for GOP Chair Dave Williams to resign

Episode Transcript

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Ladies and gentlemen in this corner fromthe University of Colorado thirty years in Lorraine,
fighting for truth, justice and theAmerican Way. Oh saw the American
Way on full display over the weekend, except it was in Gaza and it

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was Israel going in to take backcitizens who had been brutally kidnapped. That's
the American way, standing up toevil, doing what you have to do
to defeat evil. And obviously absolutelyhorrific, horrific the number of civilians that
Hamas killed during that rescue, andthat's what's so critical that we all remember,

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and it's not semantics, it isjust truth. Every single one of
the innocent civilians who were killed werekilled by Hamas. They were killed by
Hamas which chose to use them essentiallyas human shields. So so hopefully what
we saw over the weekend will willlead to a quicker full piece, and

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we all know that peace isn't goingto come through some cheap, meaningless deal
that hands Hamas a victory piece.Is going to come through a deal that
allows Israel to accomplish its goals.It's survival goals, it's right to survival
goals. So making sure Hamas isdestroyed as a military and political force.
I know you're going to hear alot right now about the UN Security Council,

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you know, approving this cease fireagreement that Biden says Israel has already
agreed to. Let's wait till wehear that from Israel and will Hamas agree
it. Chances are and just imagine, I mean negotiating with the devil right
literally, no matter how you envisionthe devil, who is real, you
know that that's who you're negotiating withhere. So will the devil accept this

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deal? You know that any dealthe devil would actually accept, it would
not abide by. But Israel hasa right to survive and great to see
him get those four hostages back thisweekend. Glad you are here. How
we're going to be talking a lotabout the Colorado GOP and it's so important
to the future of the state becausethis state doesn't have to be gone forever.

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It might be gone forever, itdoesn't have to be but if this
state is ever going to be savedfrom this downward spiral. And we can
disagree around the margins about how fastthe spiral is in what form it's taking,
but if the state's going to besaved from the inevitable downward spiral from
leftist leadership, well then it's goingto take a strong Colorado GOP to do

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it. Right now, we havethe opposite. We have about the weakest
possible Colorado GOP organization, which ispretty bizarre when you think about it,
because so many of the people,including an unknown insider so I don't know
all the machinations, but so manyof the people on the Central Committee,
so many people who get to votefor the party chair, so many people
involved in these different organizations are outstandingpeople doing tremendous work. The problem right

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now, in my humble opinion,is a guy I like. I like
Dave Williams personally, but he's adisaster Estate chair and he is the state
chair. And so what that's causingbecause of the way Dave's approaching the job
is it's causing great harm to theColorado GOP as a whole. So all
the great work by all these othermembers of the Central Committee, in all

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these other folks who are true grassroots, and an awful lot of folks who
are very very strong conservatives, Alot of people would say far right in
a derogatory sense, I say farright in a very positive sense. You
know, their good work is beingundermined by a chair at this point who's
just doing a lot of bizarre stuff. So what do you do about that?

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Well, we had Nancy Pealazi onwith us Friday. She has this
big powerful county GOP Jeff Go andthey called for Dave to resign, and
obviously Dave's not going to do that, right, But the question is whether
they can muster enough people on theCentral Committee. From what I read,
it takes sixty percent to be ableto change out the chair, and so

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I don't have any feel for whetherthey can do that. Again, I'm
not inside all of that, butI was so happy to see Nancy step
up and Barb Kirkmeyer one of themost respective. If anybody disagrees with this,
please call the show, text thisshow and let's have the conversation,
because I'd love to know what factsyou would be citing. You can call
us, by the way, eightfive five four zero five eight two five

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five the number worst number where wehope the best show on talk radio.
You can text d An five sevenseven three nine Barb Kirkmeyer, the universally
respected conservative Republican in Colorado came withina relative handful of votes of winning c
D eight last time around. AndBarb has come out now and has called

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on Dave to step aside, andshe'll be joining us at four thirty six,
so you'll hear from Barb why she'staking that step. And not an
easy step to take, right.It's not an easy step to take because
the left is so awful. Thelast thing we ever want to do is
be occupying our time and attention andfocus on fellow conservatives when the left is

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so awful. But it does reacha point, when it reaches the point
where the party chair is actually underminingthe causes we all believe in by engaging
in this really odd behavior. Thenat that point you have no choice,
right because you've got to be ableto limit the damage from that. And

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if you have been on vacation orwhatever and you've missed all this, it's
really pretty straightforward. You've got aparty chair at this point who has sent
out multiple well through posting on Twitterand then direct email, has has sent
out these emails regarding Pride Month thattake on a very hateful tone and absolutely
hand the left like kind of silverplatter going to the left and saying,

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okay, left, what what canwe do that will help you, mister
extremist leftist, help you defeat us. What would you like from us,
mister extremist lefty, to help makesure that an even larger number of people
in this state never even think ofvoting for Republican? What can we do

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for you, crazy secular lefty?And the crazy secular lefty is going to
say, well, Dave, youknow what I'd like you to do is
say you hate gays, Say theColorado GOP hates gaye. You know that
is what we could really use fromyou, Dave, because at that point,
then you know, it would takethe Good Lord himself coming back down
and ordering everybody to vote Republican foryou guys to ever win again. And

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that's what Dave did. He postshis stuff, he sends his stuff out,
and the clear message is that,hey, Colorado GOP hates gase.
I'm not claiming that's the verbatim,but the word hate was used. But
that's the clear message. So whenyou reach the point your own party chair
is, I'm sure this isn't Dave'sintention, but Dave's a very smart guy.

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He has to realize this. Rightwhen you reach the point where your
own party chair is actively helping theopposition, again not his intent, but
the clear effect, then you've gotto step up. And it's also think
about it. Think about how defamatoryit is, not in the legal sense,
but in that kind of moral sense. How defamatory it is for Dave

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to do this, because what he'sdoing is he's sending the message. He's
sending the message on the political front, on the human front, the kitchen
table front. He sending the messageto all these folks across Colorado that Republicans
hate gays. Well, I'm hereto tell you I was a Democrat for
a lot of years. So Icame to this party with fresh eyes,
and I got a chance then andwas invited to speak still speak to these

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different groups around the state. AndI came in with a stereotype of Republicans
that was not good. So Icame in and what I learned. What
I learned, you know, justliterally going group to group around the state,
meeting all these people, talking togroups. Everything else is is you
have got a very caring, lovinggroup of people, and who are not

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in any way, shape or formhomophobic, who do not sit there and
have any kind of animus toward gaypeople. They have the proper correct logical
position when it comes to policy issuessuch as no religious liberty comes before gay
rights, freedom of speech comes beforegay rights. You know, our children
and being able to make sure thatour children have their parents' influence and involvement

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in their life, particularly when they'regoing through difficult things, comes before trans
writes. So they're right on theissues, but when it comes to the
human piece that there is, thereis just there's no common vitriol or disrespect
or anything when it comes to gays. So for Dave Williams to come out
and choose, I think for hisown purposes, to attract attention to himself,

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to come out and to I think, to fame again, not in
the legal sense, but to paintRepublicans across the state as being gay haters.
That is so fundamentally unfair to Republicans, whether they're involved in politics or
not. It is not who weare. Undermines efforts to stand up to

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this administration's radical leftist agenda on theseissues. So yeah, it's time.
It's time for all Republican leaders torise up and say, Dave, we
love you, and I really likethe guy. We love you. We
know you're a smart guy, butyou're doing dumb things, and you're hurting
the cause, and you're handing ouropponent's victory and we've got to preserve this

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party. Dave, time for youto step aside. You're on the Dan
Capla show. They've had ten millionpeople coming to this country illegal. It's
the highest level of illegal immigration thelast three years in the history of the

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country. We went from the lowestunder Trump to the highest and recorded history.
They're never going to stop coming untilthey see people leaving on day one.
On day one, President Trump willdeport people here legally by the tens
of thousands. Then and only thenwill this stop. And Biden will never
do that. Well, you alsoknow that Congress would have to provide the

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resources to do that to immigrations andcustoms enforcement, and they say they don't
have the manpower or the money todo any of that. Well scale if
Trump is president. If Trump ispresident, his top priority will seal that
border to port here people illegally.We're living on borrow time. When it
comes to another nine to eleven.If you're looking for somebody to fix a
broken border and keep us safe,Donald Trump, I believe is your best

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choice. And if you don't leavethat after the last three years you've made,
you're making a big mistake. Wow. Which that's Lindsey Graham obviously ties
into this. US CBS host shockedby pole. I think it was their
own CBS poll showing sixty two percentof registered voters support to porting all illegal
immigrants. Think about that. Wowit and you can see now and you

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already knew, you know why Bidenmade this kind of full effort last week
to say he was going to tryand close the border. Sixty two percent
registered voters support to porting all illegalimmigrants. Your thoughts on that? Eighty
five five four zero five eight twofive to five the number text d an
five seven seven three nine. Iyet can't recall. I'd be surprised if

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it was a high a number whowould have supported that before Biden decided to
just wholesale open the border and invitepeople up and just flood the country with
folks here illegally from more than anunder different countries without any vetting whatsoever.
Obviously, that's suicidal, right,It's suicidal for a nation to do that,
not because of the basic character ofanybody coming in from south to the

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border, but because of a nation'scapacity to handle those numbers and without vetting
the number of truly hardened criminals,including terrorists, who are going to enter
among with you know that, thelarger number of folks who are just looking
for a better life. So thecombination of the two. Yeah, No,
obviously it's because Polis and Johnston andBiden and the rest of them just

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want more Democrat voters and they're willingto inflict all this harm on the country
to get it. So voters apparentlyare understanding that, with sixty two percent
of all registered voters supporting deporting allillegal immigrants. Anyway, we're going to
have Barb Kirkmeyer with us at fourpoint thirty six, very respected conservative Republican

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one has been very successful and camewithin a hair of winning CD eight if
not for the libertarian candidate pulling fourpercent, she likely would have won that
district. And she's going to joinus about her call public call over the
weekend for Dave Williams, the GOPchair, to step aside. I'm really
hoping Dave will come on. We'vehad a lot of great conversations on air.

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Often we agree on things. Weprobably agree on about a five ninety
percent of stuff. We've had disagreementson air. Whatever. I enjoy having
Dave on air. He's been invited, and I hope that he joins me.
Obviously we disagree on this, thefact that he should no longer be
party chair, but I would hopewe could have the conversation. And hey,
if I'm wrong, as Coach Primesays, I ain't r defined right,

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and if I'm wrong, it shouldbe pretty easy to show that.
So let's have the conversation. Idon't see any flaw in my logic,
but somebody else does. Bring iton. Hey, this is what I
love. Okay, remember when PresidentTrump was just getting into presidential politics,

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and what did we say all thetime about him? So wow, I
didn't see that one coming. Whata great idea, that's so fresh,
that's so different. And that wasa big part of his brand, is
that he would come up with theseunique ideas and we'd all go, wow,
yeah, that makes sense. Wellhe had another one over the weekend,

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and I love this and I hopewe see more of this now as
he moves beyond this wrongful conviction inNew York, because he's going to have
to have more of this to win. So anyway, what about this?
So this is the first time I'vesaid this, And for those hotel workers
and people that get tips, you'regonna be very happy because when I get

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to office, we are going tonot charge taxes on tips. People making
tips. Wow, what do youthink of that yet? Whether you like
it or you don't like, it'sfresh, it's new, it's different.
I haven't heard any politicians say thatbefore about it and this was what I
think. This was CBS reporting thisreluct I did talk with some hotel workers

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yesterday, some service workers here inLas Vegas, about how that is playing
with them and amory about six peopletold me that would change their vote.
That is enough to make them switchfrom voting Democrat to Republican. If Donald
Trump is promising something like that tothem. Wow, think about that.
It's fresh, it's different. Itmakes a lot of sense on a lot

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of levels. I'm sure you havequestions I did too, such as,
okay, well, how much weall know so many people right work for
tips and the starting point in ourminds is, you know, waiters and
waitresses that sort of things. Butwe know there's a much broader category.
I mean, I worked as tipsas a golf caddy and then worked as
tip for Tips as a car parker, et cetera. But we know whether
it's you know, Uber or pizzadelivery folks, or just a many,

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many more categories all the time.Now. So how dependent is the US
government on you know, tax moneyfrom people who get tips? And I
haven't been able to find anything definitiveon it yet, And doing my research
today, my unscientific conclusion was probablynot that much compared to everything else.

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So you're probably in a situation whereyou've got a lot of your hardest working
people. Think about it. Thepeople working for tips are very often some
of the very best people in anycommunity, people with the great work ethic.
They're out there, they're hustling,they're they're subjecting themselves to the micro
marketplace every minute of every day.Because I remember when I was working for

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tips, Yeah, we had toplease that person, do good work,
et cetera. It's a meritocracy,so often, you know, these are
some of the finest people in anycommunity, city, state, nation,
And so right off the bat,you're talking about a very, very worthy
group. You're talking about a groupof folks who, if they now don't
have to pay the government for this, they're going to fuel the economy in
other ways, you know, becausethey're not just going to sit there and

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have piles of gold under their bed. They're going to fuel the economy in
other ways. And there are peoplewho deserve a frigging break. I mean,
you know, you've got Biden outthere now. And this is where
I started to compare numbers, eventhough we don't have hard numbers at this
point on federal tax revenue from tips, but you got Biden out there just
arbitrarily giving out I think it's upto one hundred and fifty one hundred and

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sixty five billion with a be transferringthat debt from people who knowingly took out
student loans, etc. Transferring thatdebt to people who who didn't take out
those loans, people who couldn't goto college because they didn't have the money
or decided to do something else,or you know, whatever the case may
be. But my guess is,and again I'm waiting to see some hard

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numbers from what I've seen so far, it would probably cost far less to
give this break to these really hardworking folks in our community who deserve it.
That then Biden's transfer of student debtfrom people who agreed to take it
on to people who didn't. AndI'll break those numbers down a little bit

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when we qubec what do you thinkof Trump's proposal no more taxes on tips?
Barb Kirkmeyer, highly respected conservative afterthe break on why she is calling
on GOP chair Dave Williams to stepaside Here on the Dan Caplas Show four

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thirty six, one of the mostrespected conservatives in Colorado, Barbara Kirkmeyer joins
us at the Dan Kapli Show.Welcome back, Barb. How you doing,
I'm doing great. Thanks for havingme back on. Well, thank
you, and thank you for yourcourage and stepping up and publicly calling on
Dave to step aside his party chair. But please take the floor and tell
folks why you did that. Well, it's just that, you know,

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as I said in when I mademy post, our party has always stood
for freedom, prosperity, and opportunity, and we're supposed to be making every
effort to get our message out toColorado's and grow the parties and elect Republicans.
But over the course of last year, focusing on trying to unite us
under mister Williams leadership, you knowwhat, his message has just been one

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about dividing the state party and it'sfueled by hateful narratives. He has gone
after use funds supposedly to you know, the funds are supposed to be used
to defeat Democrats. He's doing itto further his own candidacy. He attacked
Republicans, and just recently he deliveredjust really this late latest message of hate
and it's just time. I mean, I've been working really hard down to

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Capitol along with my colleagues to makesure that we have an agenda that is
uplifting, that brings lifts Colorado's up, and you know, we just need
to chart a new path here becausethis one is not working. And I
am just greatly, greatly worried thatwe are going to even get farther into
the minority, that we won't evenbe a major party if we're not careful

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with the type of messages that we'resending out. And the other thing is,
you know, Dave likes to saythat he speaking for all Republicans.
No, he's not, he isnot. And I don't know. I
know, I'm going on. Youprobably have no no, no, please
please walking. Yeah, I mean, I have a primary and I've been
out walking. But you know,I talked to people in my county quite

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a bit in my district, andyou know, I was in a newer
part of my district after the redistrictingup in Timnath and I have people up
there telling me that they're leaving theparty because they're just going too far and
it's not it's not the party theyknew, it's not the party they grew
up in, and they just don'tlike it. So they're not going to
be Republicans anymore. And I'm like, well, my gosh, you know

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you're still conservative, right and you'restill going to vote for conservatives. And
they're like, yeah, but we'regoing to look at everybody really closely because
we just don't like what's going onin the Republican Party. And then on
top of that, just in thelast week, I had a person who
was a vice chair in our partytelling me that he's leaving the party because
of Dave Williams. That's not agood messag that's not good. We need

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to we need to get our partyback on track and just chart a new
path. Right because if it's justDave Williams out there saying Dave Williams things,
who cares. But when it's theColorado GOP sending these messages, or
Dave Williams representing himself as chair ofthe Colorado GOP, then people have to
choose to do they want to beidentified with that brand, and who in

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the right mind would be on somethinglike this, this spasm of hate directed
toward gays. And you know,so who in the right mind would want
to be associated with that? Listen, you have been one of the real
stand up people in conservative circles,standing up for religious liberty and freedom and
parental rights. But all Dave's doingis first of all, making anybody with

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an R look bad and second handingthe left handing this radical agenda these victories.
Because when you come out and sendthe message Republicans hate gays, you
know what do you think the leftdoes? They celebrate exactly? And why
is why is that our lead message? There is so much more here that
we should be doing as a Republicanparty, I mean defending Tabor. I

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spent all last summer and last falldefending Tabor, and you know, being
the co chair on Proposition H alongwith representative to Gleasi and going out and
fighting the really good battles. Andwe've won big. Why aren't we capitalizing
off that? Why aren't we buildingoff that instead? You know the other
part is this guy doubled down.He sent out another email that said,

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you know, he's looking forward toputting out the list of so called Republicans
who plan on signing the petition.Well, Dave, I signed the petition.
Mind, I put my name outthere. I'm fine with putting my
name out there. You know,it's not And he's trying to deflect and
he's trying to change this all aroundbecause I think he knows he's screwed up,
because he's trying to say, youknow, we're defending pride months.
No, no, this is aboutit's childish. It's about that's childish,

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it's playground stuff. Oh yeah.No. If you say we shouldn't be
sending out Haye Man such as you'redefending, I mean that's literally what you
would hear on the playground in kindergarten. But let me ask you, Barb,
if you fit into this category,because I guess according to Dave,
those who don't support that God hatespride email and buried within that. If

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I remember it right, there wasa video with a heading on it,
God hates flags, and which forthose familiar with this horrific Westboro Church operation,
and they're sickly modeled, God hatesfags. You wonder if those two
titles are a coincidence. But anyway, this article I write says, I
wonder that they aren't a coincidence.They were meant. It was meant to

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be that way, and it's basicallyhe has the Republican Party coming out with
a picture of what I believe itis supposed to be Jesus with these red
eyes that does look dis Anish.That is saying God hates flag, which
is supposed to mean God hates fags. That is what I mean by hurtful
language coming out of the Republican Party. God doesn't hate anyone. I was

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taught in the religion I grew upin, which is Catholic, that God
loves everyone and that we are madein His likeliness. So I don't think
God hates fags. That's not whatI was raised on and I just don't
believe that. But this guy,again, like I said, he's doubled
down, and he puts in thissecond email that he sent out that I
mean, now you know, I'man established establishment insider. I'm assuming from

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his emails. But even because youknow my mom is hinal hall of you
know, wall of Way, honor, yes, I do. Because here's
the thing. I'm not an establishmentyou know. I am in the Republican
Party and I have been faithful tothe Republican Party, and I am a
conservative. But he says the same, a stabiliate establishment insiders only seem to

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fight this hard against grassroots Christian conservatives, like I'm not a Christian conservative now,
I mean, I really take offenseto that as well. But here
he is instead of saying, youknow what, maybe I need to change
the message, maybe I miss ita bit, but you know, or
I should just go use that inmy own campaign. Of course, he's
using the state party money for hisown candidacy. So what that's unethical?

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I mean, this coming from howun eSchool is that, But saying that
and basically calling us is calling fromus out that if we sign this petition
somehow now we're not Christian conservative becauseonly he gets this side. That that
is just wrong. It is justwrong all the way around. Yeah,
think about how preposterous it is usingfaith, is this kind of sword against

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conservative opponents while violating the basic tenantsof that same faith. I mean,
and that it's so preposterous in somany different ways. And I guess all
of us, you and I andanybody who disagrees with him. He's labeled,
to quote weak Republicans who bowed downat the feet of leftist cancel culture.

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So, yeah, Barbara, I'vesaid this on Aaron. I imagine
you would say it with great vigor. I will compare. I will compare
my years, my decades, mycareer of standing up to leftist cancel culture
to Dave Williams any day of theweek. Now, Dave's done some good
things, and we agree on alot of different causes. The difference is

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he's doing things right now to underminethose causes and to help our political opponents,
those who seek to defeat us onthe causes. But you want to
compare actual hard work in the trenchesand effectiveness standing up to leftist cancel culture.
Let's do it. I'm with youany day of the week. And
if you want to compare my conservativerecord to his, I'm with that too,

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and your record of success, becauseI do think success still matters,
right, it does. And youknow, here's the thing. We are
fighting so hard, and we hadsome successes this year, you know,
fighting on you know, bringing downproperty taxes, bringing down income taxes.
We killed a on the calendar,we killed an anti gun bill. We

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that's everybody working together as a team, you know, down at the Capitol.
You know, whether we're Republican senatorsor Republican healthman versus state representatives,
we work together as a team.And he's undermining all of that. He's
undermining our successes, you know,whether it's individually or as a team for
his own means. I mean,if he wants to go spout this stuff

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on his own candidacy, go doit. He wants to go sbout this
stuff in his own campaign, godo it. We'll see where how far
it gets him. And Barb Kirkmeyer, guess what kind of reaction are you
getting barbed from from other conservatives?Other people politically involve Central Committee members,
well other than my well, myopponent's not a Central Committee member. I

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am telling you. I went toso my Senate district is in both Weld
and Larimer County, mostly Well,but it also goes into Larimer County,
and I went to events in LarimerCounty and I thought, you know,
if I'm going to get any harshspeedback, it might be here. But
I didn't get any of that.I got people telling me thank you for
saying, you know, coming outand making those comments, for saying we
need to get our party back ontrack, that we need to come unified,

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especially into this election cycle. AndI think they're going to write a
letter and ask for the resignation aswell. At least that seems about the
indication so from Central Committee members thatare in you know, in Well County.
Well County didn't vote for Dave,and you know the majority of us
did not vote for Dave. Andyou know this is the guy, upon

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winning election of the state Party chair, called all Republican legislators seclists, and
I thought, oh my god,here we go, here we go.
He called them all seckless in hisspeech. Man, well, thank you
for standing up. And I hopeothers do as well. And I think
it's just so it's so critical tothe future, it's so critical to all

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Republicans. It's so critical to theseissues. And you know what, Dan,
and thank you as well for helpingget this message out. But you
know what, I want to bein the majority party. You know,
I'm tired of losing, and withthis kind of agenda, this kind of
move from our state party chair,I mean making us all look bad.
Basically, we're not going to getthere. Yeah. Amen, we just

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learned that to get there. Thanksyour great work. Join us again soon
please. That's Kirkmeyer for Colorado dotCom. Barb Kirkmeer, You're on the
Dan Kapla show. So this isthe first time I've said this. And

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for those hotel workers and people thatget tips, you're going to be very
happy because when I get to office, we are going to not charge taxes
on tips. People making tips waspretty popular and then the network, I
think it was CBS not pleased withthis. I did talk with some hotel
workers yesterday, some service workers herein Las Vegas about how that is playing

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with them and Amrie about six peopletold me that would change their vote.
That is enough to make them switchfrom voting Democrat to Republican. If Donald
Trump is promising something like that tothem, boy, yeah, and can
you imagine the effect nationwide. Soit's just part of this whole move of
the GOP to being the party ofthe working people, which it is it

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should be for the GOP to win, it needs to be, and for
the GOP to fulfill its purpose notjust to win, but to actually succeed
and to mean something different than Democrats. It really needs to be the party
of working people. But what doyou think of the policy, the underlying
policy of not taxing tips. We'llget to that. Most of the tensions

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so far on the show has beenthis issue across Colorado and the GOP whether
Dave Williams, the current party chair, should continue. Now the calls are
for those who are calling. NancyPelosi, head of Jeff Go the Jeffco
GOP called on Dave Williams to resignlast week. Barb Kirkmeyer, respected conservative,
just joined me. She's calling onit as well. Everybody knows he's

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not going to resign, but shouldhe be removed, So would love to
hear from you. Dave, ofcourse, has been invited. Would love
to have Davon. We've had alot of great conversations on air. Would
love to have another one, andwe can certainly we've shown that disagree civilly.
But if you disagree with me onthis, please we will make you
a priority caller. Would love tohear from you on this eight five five

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four zero five eight two five fivetext d A N five seven seven three
nine. Hey, couple of quicknews notes. The Hunter Biden jury has
caughting home for the evening. Couldhave been should have been the quickest conviction
anywhere, just based on the elements. But if you, like me,
want to see President Trump win,well you've got to sit there and hope
that Hunter Biden is acquitted or atleast not convicted. Now chances are he

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will be right because he's dead inthe water on these charges. But I
think it would be very good forPresident Trump if he wasn't died. My
personal belief is that Joe Biden wantshim convicted on these charges, that Hunter
Biden, Joe Biden, the entireclan see this as a real plus,
an enormous plus for Hunter Biden ifhe gets convicted on these charges, because

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then they're hoping the pressures off.Then Joe Biden can stand up and say,
equal justice under the law, seemy own son. I could have
pardoned him. I didn't guess whatif this was the tax evasion trial happening
now instead of in September. Yeah, the pardon would have come before the
tax of asion trial because it's thetax evasion trial where you get in the

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money. Now they can just come, oh, poor Hunter an addict.
He was convicted for being an addict. What was me kind of saying?
And Joe would a good dad forstanding by him. But the tax evasion
trial is where the money is,and that's coming in September, though it
will probably never come. They'll probablybe a pardon before then. Why,
because hey, where did Hunter getthis money that he didn't pay taxes on?

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Right? Why were people paying themoney to begin with? Other than
to buy influence with Joe? Imean, well, what are the reason
we anybody give Hunter Biden money?Yeah? So different critter there. All
right, let's get back to thetext and to the phone lines. I've
got to tell you. I'll tellyou now so I don't forget hilarious story.
Remember, we spend so much timeon this show talking about this absolutely

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insane new law from Polis in theleft where under certain circumstances I won't repeat
it on now, scooters, bikes, et cetera, they don't have to
stop. Bikes, they don't haveto stop for stop signs. Well,
I had a buddy, you wouldknow his name. He you know,
super Bowl champ, all that goodstuff, very well known who. The

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other day, he's driving down thestreet, he has a green light.
He almost obliterates this joker on ascooter and the guy gets up and starts
yelling at my buddy. Jared Polissaid, I could do that inver paid
him. Jared Polis said I coulddo that. Jared Polis said I didn't
have to stop. I mean theguy said Jared Polis said I could do

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that, but he was referring tothe fact that he had not stopped.
I can't remember if it was abikerscooter, but the guy actually said those
words. Let's go to Chris sayshe's a Precinct one O two leader talking
about our friend Dave Williams. Chris, you're on the Dan Kapitalist Show.
Welcome Dan, Thanks for having meon. Sure, Yeah, I was
calling in. I think I wascalling in because I have to agree with

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Sarah Kirkmeyer that Dave is the worst. I live in Springs, No Passa
County, have a precinct leader forfour years now, and he's just counductive
to everything you try to do.Well. Then Dave Williams would say you're
a quote weak Republican who bows downat the feet of leftist cancel culture.
You don't sound like that, Chris, does that describe you? The good

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news is that Dave Williams wouldn't doesn'tknow Shinola. I mean, good,
most gracious. I mean he couldn't, he couldn't get elected. Well,
I don't want to say that onthe air, but Chris appreciate hit the
call. We need to hit thisnews break. If you want to talk
some more, just let me know. We'd love to hear from everybody who
agrees disagrees. This I think hasto be addressed for the good of the

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causes, for the good of theparty. You're on the Dan Kaplis Show.