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This is Dan Kaples and welcome totoday's online podcast edition of The Dan Caplis
Show. Please be sure to giveus a five star rating if you'd be
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who's fighting for clients today. Goodto be with you, you want
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to join into the conversation. Happyto have you eight five five four oh
five eighty two fifty five. Ourtelephone number eight five five four oh five
eighty two fifty five. And ofcourse you can text in the show at
five seven seven three nine. Andjust real quick, there's a text that
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I want to get to. Bythe way, text Dan first, that
way make sure it gets seen byyours truly, and I want to get
to this text because I think it'sIt just really underscores a point I made
in the last hour. If youdidn't hear what we discussed about how the
University of Colorado has now banned concealedcarry on campuses as of this morning,
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when the CU regents voted to dojust that, and we talked at the
end of the hour about reality andhow you have to take things as they
are, not as you want themto be, which includes the reality that
you need to be able to defendyourself and if you have a right to
defense, then you should be ableto exercise that right to self defense.
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Listener text that came in during thebreak saying, Jimmy, what we need
is a hashtag campaign like hashtag noguns allowed. That should work, yes,
And I want to read that becauseit underscores just how incomprehensible it is
to just say, oh, atthe snap of a finger, we're gonna
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suddenly scale back the rights of theindividual or whatever it is, and we're
gonna encourage, you know, somethinglike hashtag no guns allowed, you know,
and whatever social media campaign they mightend up coming up with that that's
really going to keep people safe.Just astonishing to me. Once again,
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I'm Jimmy Sangenberger. If you wantto reach out to me twenty four seven
three sixty five, feel free todo that on my website Jimmy Sangenberger dot
com. That's saying that's all ratherall ease, all the time in Sangenburger.
There's no AI or you Once youknow that Sangenburger is easy. The
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Colorado GOP folks is in turmoil andit is undermining itself. More and more
we know about the realities of DaveWilliams and so many of his failures,
can I put it nicely, failures, recklessness, little, a little harsher
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his mouth. He since the damagethat he's doing to the Colorado Republican Party.
Of course, we know all aboutthe Pride email that went out saying
burn all Pride flags and God hatesflags, playing off of the Westboro Baptists
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quote, God hates fags, justterrible, and it's playing off of that
in the GOP sending this blast email, and that has caused a slew of
parties in this state, Republican partiesand other Republican leaders to pull their support
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from Dave Williams as though it's likea last straw. In fact, in
the Denver Gazette, within the lasttwenty four hours or so, there's a
peace out County Republican parties join callto remove Dave Williams as Colorado GOP chairman
over Pride emails talking about what happenedin Jefferson County where Nancy Pelosi, the
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chairwoman of that county sort of wentrogue and she called for Dave williams resignation
on let her head from the JeffersonCounty GOP, and she was censured last
week because of that unilateral decision.It had nothing to do for most of
the people who voted to censure her, from my understanding, with what she
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wanted to accomplish with complaints about DaveWilliams, but the fact that she did
it on her own. Nevertheless,that's a state county party chair that has
turned on Williams. Weld County RepublicanParties Executive Committee voted unanimously Tuesday night to
join some dozen plus other counties likeDenver in calling for the resignation or removal
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of Dave Williams. Now. DaveWilliams not only has a problem with that
email and with the fact that he'srunning for Congress in the fifth Congressional district
while being chairman of the state partyand using party resources to advantage his own
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campaign sending out official emails and morefrom the party to advance his own interests,
but he also defied the Trump campaign. The Trump campaign said, no,
you're not supposed to raise money offof President Trump's verdict in New York
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City. Well, lo and behold, Dave Williams did just that. In
fact, Chris La Sevita rebuked Williamsand others he's the co chair of the
campaign, co campaign manager rather ofthe Trump campaign, saying earlier this month,
any Republican elected official, candidate orparty committee siphoning money from President Trump's
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donors are no better than Judge Merchant'sdaughter. We're keeping a list, we'll
be checking it twice, and wearen't. In the spirit of Christmas,
We'll put Dave Williams in the ColoradoGOP atop that list, because both the
Colorado GOP and Dave Williams, separatelyand of course intertwined, raised money off
of that verdict. Then you havethis endorsement of Jenek Joshie as one of
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the endorsees from the Colorado GOP.He's running in the eighth congressional district that
most significantly includes Adams County. Andit just so happens that while Dave Williams
chose Jenik Joshi to endorse, DonaldTrump endorsed Gabe Evans, and yet they
want to claim that Joshie is theMAGA America first candidate, the true one.
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I don't know. I think itsounds like Trump would have a little
bit of a bone to pick withthat. But this week, just in
the last few days, it goteven worse. The vice chair of the
Colorado Republican Party is a woman bythe name of Hope Sheppelman, and she
shared a video attacking Republican candidate JeffHeard in the third Congressional District, who
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is the favorite to replace Lauren Bobertin that district. Bobert, who will
join us at the bottom of thehour, now running of course, for
the fourth Congressional District, having movedto the district, leaving the seat open.
Jeff Heard is leading in the polls, and Sheppelman, vice chair of
the party, shared a video attackingJeff Heard now the original ad and did
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like this. All we really doknow about Jeff Heard is he's financed by
outer state corporate money. Lots ofcorporate money. Maybe that's why he's hiding.
I'm Adam Fresh. I approved thismessage. Oh, Adam Fresh,
who's Adam Frish? You're seeing theRepublican primary. Nope, he is the
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Democrat nominee in the third CD andthat ad had paid for by Adam Frish.
Okay, that's supposed to be thecase. But when Hope Sheppelman went
online and the vice chair of theGOP shared this video attacking a Republican,
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it happened to end a little bitdifferently. So you'll notice here, just
because of the way social media is, you'll notice the ending, and then
you'll notice that it begins with theopening to it. Listen to this.
Maybe that's why he's hiding. JeffHurd is hiding. Huh Wait a second,
Wait a second, Maybe that's whyhe's hiding. Jeff Hurd is hiding.
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Wait where is that disclaimer? Whereis that last part of the ad?
I proved this message conspicuously it ismissing edited out of a video that
was then shared with it edited outby the vice chair of the party,
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who has chosen to support Ron Hanks, who's most known his claim to fame
is blowing up a photo copier thatwas supposed to represent evil Dominion machines when
he ran for US and a coupleof years back in that Republican primary didn't
get the nomination. She's so inthe tank for Ron Hanks that she is
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willing to attack a fellow Republican usingDemocrat propaganda. You can't make this up.
How in the world could you seethis? Quick question? Jayes ry
to break please. I've been thinkingabout this and what is to separate what
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Dave Williams Hope Scheppelman are doing fromwhat a Democrat plant would be doing.
That's it. I have a piecefor the Washington Examiner coming out Monday on
this topic, and I don't knowwhat they might include in the final draft,
but I talk about the idea thatmaybe they're like a Democrat double agent.
That's what it seems like. Youcan't how in the world could you
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be a Republican and share Democrat attackson another Republican and just say, oh,
you know, I'm a Republican andanybody who opposes me is as I
was called, a member of theUnit Party. Doesn't it seem ryan a
little more a unit party? Likeif you are sharing what the Democrats are
putting out about Republicans, it woulddefinitely seem that way. I just it
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is mind boggling eight five five fourh five eighty five. What do you
make of this? The new lowsof the Colorado GOP weaponizing Democrat videos against
their own candidates who are not theones that they endorsed. Astonishing in my
view eight five five, four ohfive eighty two fifty five. I'm Jimmy
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Sangenberger filling in for Dan Kaplis.Keep it right here and now back to
the Dan Kapliss Show podcast. Greattune here from Ryan and Shooling on the
other side of the glass. Jimmysangen Berger back with you in for Dan
Caples today, and the GOP leadershipdoes seem like a secret agent. It
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reminds me of the scene with thesheriff in Live and Let Die, one
of my favorite James Bond movies.A sacred agent on who side. I
can't do a good Southern accent.I'm not even gonna try. But yeah,
that's the question you should be askingabout Dave Willie and his band of
well I think secret agents. Arethey secret agents? On whose side?
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Hope Sheppelman being somebody who can addto the list now as the vice chair
of the Colorado GOP again. Sheshared a video of an ad put out
by Adam Frisch, the Democrat inthe third Congressional District, that just so
happened. It was an attack adand it just so happened to exclude the
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disclaimer here I approved this message.Why what reason would you have for taking
that sort of step if not forwanting to undermine your own party. It's
as if you want to take yourtoys and go home because the friend you
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wanted to play with, does itlook like they're going to want to play
with you? That is to say, if Ron Hanks, they're chosen candidate,
doesn't win the primary in the thirddistrict as they want him to,
vary very badly, and maybe JeffHeard wins instead, then they're not going
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to support him. Does this indicatethat they are going to oppose him?
And what's astonishing too is when yougo on to social media there are a
couple of groups where a Hope Sheppelmanis pretty frequent at posting, and she's
defending it. She's actually defending theabsence. Oh well, I didn't edit
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it out? Well who did?That's the question I'm wondering who edited out
the disclaimer? Haven't seen an answerto that yet. She's calling it a
mistake. How is it a mistakefor the chairman of the Republican Party,
or rather the vice chair of theRepublican Party two and dozens and dozens of
social media posts share a video thatexcludes the disclaimer. Now, look,
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I've been around politics long enough toknow that if you have a professional ad
attacking a candidate, a professionally doneattack ad, it is legally required to
have a disclaimer at the end.You can't claim ignorance if you are a
political party's vice chair. Oh,I didn't know there's supposed to be a
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disclaimer at the end. I wouldlike to think that the leadership in the
Colorado GOP is at least a littlebit intelligent to know this. But alas
as listener texts in at five sevenseven thirty nine, Jimmy, the Colorado
GOP seems to aim when they shootthemselves in the foot. Yes, that's
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I love it. A gold starfor that text. Aim when they shoot
themselves in the foot. It's likethey intend on doing it. Hence the
question a secret agent on whose side? Are you that desperate for your candidate
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to win that you would smear anothercandidate? And what's astonishing to me is
this is the first time in ColoradoGOP history that they have been doing endorsements.
Now, okay, if you willaccept even the premise of endorsements.
It's okay for the party to endorsea candidate, okay. How is it
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acceptable for the party to use itsresources and various avenues to keep attacking the
candidates they didn't endorse. How isthat fair? How is that reasonable?
It isn't and it is only goingto be the ruin of the Colorado GOP.
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But I think that's part of thedesign. I don't think that they
have any intention of actually being victoriousin this state in laying the groundwork for
future victories, which is why theyseem to be just fine with Ron Hanks
having support from Rocky Mountain Values Pack, left wing dark money group that has
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been running ads praising Ron Hanks themost conservative candidate and framing things in an
attack ad format, which is justsomething else should give you a little bit
of a clue of what they're goingfor when they're attacking him in the primary
for being too conservative, too closeto Trump. Well, it just so
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happens that Rocky Mountain Values Pack isbankrolled by the left wing dark money nonprofit
sixteen thirty fund. Now, ifyou go back to November of twenty twenty
two, for columns I wrote forthe Denver Gazette, including the year of
Colorado's dark money deams. You'll findthat the sixteen thirty Fund organization, which
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has spent at least three hundred thousanddollars boosting Ron Hanks, is directly connected
in with a dark money group networkwhere the fulcrum is Jenny Griswold. She
is the president or has been theleader, a chair president, I don't
remember her title of the Democratic Associationof Secretaries of State, which is all
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plugged into this network. They havebeen. The sixteen thirty Fund had been
in twenty twenty two pouring money behindDemocrat clerk and recorders to run elections.
Massive amounts of money in Rappo Countythey gave through a vehicle called the Open
Democracy Pack that is plugged in withGeorge Soros. By the way, a
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Rappo County clerk Joan Lopez, hadone hundred and fifty thousand plus dollars backing
her Democrat in Jefferson County, AmandaGonzalez one hundred ey six thousand dollars.
The list goes on huh sorows connections. Jenna Griswold plugged right in with sixteen
to thirty f one, which endorsedJenna Griswold, and they're back in Ron
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Hanks huh go figure. We'll talkwith another congressional candidate, Lauren Bobert.
Next. You're listening to the DanKaplis Show podcast. Jimmy Sang and Burger
back with you, filling in forDan Kaplis today, where we are joined
now by someone who looks very wellpositioned for Tuesday's Republican primary in the fourth
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congressional District. That would be LaurenBobert, currently congresswoman for the third district,
so she is in the thick ofthings. Congress Woman. Good to
talk with you. Welcome back,Jimmy. It is great to be on
the Dan Kaplis Show. I'm gladyou're filling in tonight. Absolutely good to
be with you today. So letme just ask you, obviously you got
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just a few days to go untilTuesday. How are you feeling. What's
your perspective on where things are headed? Jimmy, I am feeling a wonderful,
very confident thanks to the voters inCD four. I have traveled all
twenty one county and I've been talkingto folks one on one every single day,
either I'm on the phone with themwhile I'm in Washington, DC,
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or I'm traveling to their hometown.And I've been earning the support of the
voters, and they have been sogracious and so welcoming. And you know,
there's a lot of folks who areconcerned about the direction our country is
going and is even positioned in rightnow, and they understand that I don't
just talk about what we need todo to solve these problems. I'm actually
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doing the work to provide solutions forColorado and our nation when we look at
the state of play right now,Obviously, the illegal immigration issue is one
of the top issues that the Americanpeople are looking at in poll after poll
after poll, and you, ofcourse have seen this poorous southern border when
it comes to this topic, doyou think that Republicans have the right direction
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that they're headed in regarding the policy? You get Trump in there as president,
you get folks like you and Congressstaying in there, that we will
be able to right the ship.We have to Jimmy every election season,
you hear this is the most importantelection of our lifetime. But I fear
that this could be the last mostimportant election of our lifetime. We have
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got to get President Trump back inthe White House, and we need a
majority in the House and the Senate, so we're not going through impeachment number
three and four and five and sixif the Democrats somehow take the House.
And I want to be there alongsidePresident Trump, fighting with him, fighting
for America and for American citizens.He knows our priority is to shut down
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the border, to secure that,to have mass deportations, which all of
my opponents are not in favor ofmass deportations. I'm the only one in
this race who says, if youcame here illegally, then you need to
go back home and come here theright way if you want to be here.
So I'm looking forward to that.That's why President Trump has endorsed me
in this race, so I canbe there in DC with him, working
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on policies and providing him legislation thathe can sign into law that helps our
country not only our safety and oursecurity, but also our energy development,
so we can lower inflation and getcontrol of the reckless spinning in Washington,
DC, so folks can afford greats, eggs and butter. Again, it's
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so difficult right now, to evenbuy groceries for your family. And President
Trump understands those struggles. Even DonJunior talks about the sticker shock that he
has when he sees the prices ofthings, and he's the son of a
billionaire. He absolutely knows that weare filling that as well, and that
there are solutions to export our energy, to become energy and dependent and energy
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dominant, and to make America prosperousagain. You know, we got to
let you go. I'll just askyou very quickly in terms of Tuesday,
how are you looking in that regard? And if you are indeed the Republican
nominee in the fourth congressional district,where do you see the challenge from the
Democrats? How likely do you seevictory in November to hold the fourth for
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Republicans? Oh, I don't seea victory at all in sight for Democrats.
This is a Republican district and wewill remain a Republican district. I
have been talking everywhere that I gothat we need to unify as a Republican
party. I'm the only one inthis primary race for congressional district for that
is not personally attacking my opponents.I will debate policy all day long.
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But you know, all of myopponents have abandoned unity pledges that they've either
signed in writing or said in frontof voters in the district. And I'm
okay to move beyond that because Iunderstand that we need all of us positioned
together to unify so we can beginto take our state back. Even I
know how important these county commissioner racesand city council races are. I work
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with them as a federal legislator ona regular basis. That's where the basis
of most of my legislation that Ihave introduced and passed and initiatives that I've
signed into law have come from fromthese local meetings because they understand their areas
more than anyone does. And soI look forward to to finishing out my
term in the third District, continuingto represent them and all of Colorado,
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and you know, happy to beable to watch the results come in on
Tuesday, and I look forward tobeing the congresswoman in the fourth district and
getting even more done for Colorado thanI already have. Congresswoman Lauren Bobert,
where can folks go to learn moreabout you and your campaign? Yes.
So my campaign is Lauren for Freedomdot Com or Lauren for Colorado dot Com
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and you can learn about my life, legislative priorities, what I'm working on,
what my goals are, and alsowhat I have done for Colorado and
for our nation. I've passed overseventy five legislative priorities and have them signed
into law. There's many things stillthat I need to get passed all the
way through the finish line. Someof that might take President Trump in office.
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But Lauren for Colorado dot Com youcan learn more about me and that
I am the only proven conservative inthis race and I'm looking to earn even
more support from the voters and CDfour. It's been an honor meeting so
many people and reconnecting with others.As a a resident of the fourth Congressional
District. I'll be fascinated to seewhat happens on Tuesday. Congresswoman Lauren Bolbert,
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thanks so much for a few minutesof your time today. Thanks so
much, Jimmy. Once again LaurenBolbert joining us Jimmy Sangenberger in for dan
Kaplan. It is really interesting tosee these races unfold. I think one
of the things from a political standpoint, that really has shaped up in the
fourth Congressional District, making it lookreally good for Lauren Bolbert in terms of
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her positioning. Is the fact thatyou have five different opponents that are splitting
up the non Bolbert vote, andif you want to mount a campaign against
somebody who has significant amounts of moneyand significant name recognition, it doesn't help
to have a circumstance where it's notone on one, and this has worked
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very well for Lauren Bolbert's favor It'llbe interesting, though, to see how
things turn about on Tuesday in thefourth as well as over in the third
congressional district, where the congresswoman isleaving because she's moved to the fourth.
If she gets elected, she willbe representing a different district. And the
third congressional district you have primary thatis predominantly looking at favorability for Jeff Hurd,
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who is running against Ron Hanks andSteven Verrella, one or two other
people. But I think you reallyhave a lot of attention being drawn to
Verrella and to Ron Hanks as opponents, to the point where again the Colorado
GOP is very concerned about the prospectof Ron Hank's not getting the nomination,
well, he's not going to.I like Stephen Verilla a lot, by
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the way, and I don't knowhow that race is going to shake out.
I think Jeff Herd's the favorite,if we're going to call this like
a horse race. But that bringsme to you living in the fourth Jimmy.
I'm not gonna put you on thespot in terms of who you endorse,
who you're voting for, etc.But do you have a feel for
this race, because I don't knowthat I necessarily do. Other than Lauren
Bolbert certainly is the front runner andthe favorite. I think the odds are
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probably in her favor very clearly,almost for the reason that you have five
different people that are fighting in thedistrict for attention, for name recognition up
against Bobert. It is always possibleany of those candidates, who I think
all of them have. All sixof these candidates have a lot that they
bring to the table. It's justhard to break out when you're up against
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somebody who brings a lot of moneyfrom back when she was fighting in the
third congressional district to maintain that seatand originally expected to run for reelection there
and also brings that name recognition.So it really just depends on if Republicans
are turned off enough by some ofthe things that are negatives for Bobert.
But if I had this to picksomebody who would win that race, I
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think it would be Lauren Bolbert becauseit's hard to mount a race when you
were one of five people challenging thatfront runner. Ryan. I think that's
a solid point, and had itbeen a one on one race, then
it might have got a little bitinteresting. But when you're right, you're
still right about the other five candidatesall kind of fighting for that alternative spot.
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Let's say, to those that mightbe not interested in voting for Lauren,
but there is a strong enough Laurencontingent I think base the name recognition,
the funding for her campaign, thefact that she's already in Congress,
and she articulated all of those pointspretty well in that conversation with you as
to why I think voters would bemore comfortable with her, especially conservative voters
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in that fourth congressional district. Yeah, I would agree that certainly. Well,
but especially when you have to decide, Okay, who do you support
who's not Boburt and can that persongarner enough other votes to win the primary,
and that's really tough. I mean, when you have six people running.
It's different from some of these otherraces. For example, down in
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the fifth Congressional District, Jeff Crankup against Dave Williams, and I do
think that the odds are more infavor based on polling date I've seen in
favor of Jeff Crank. It doesactually appear that he's more likely than Dave
Williams to win, which God willingthat would be the case in the sense
that Williams belongs nowhere near Congress forreasons that we have articulated before, and
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you'll certainly hear articulate late again.I'm Jimmy Sangenberger filling in for Dan Kaples.
The time is flying by, solet's head on right to a break
and we'll be on the other sidewith our final stuff. I got a
little little fun we're gonna have withsome harmonica on the other side. Keep
it right here, Jimmy, andfor Dan, stay with us, and
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now back to the Dan Kapless Showpodcast. Ah the weekend it is upon
us. Jimmy Sangenberger here with youin for Dan Caples fighting for clients today.
Good to be here on a Friday, and look, I am a
harmonica player. I have a bluesband looking to be getting out there very
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soon for gigs now that we havea new permanent guitarist. Oh wait a
minute, update a seri that wasa new development, the Jimmy Junior Blues
Band. Oh, his name isEric and he is phenomenal, and we're
hoping to have some gigs lined upsoon and we'll definitely let folks know it's
the Jimmy Junior Blues Band. Usup on Facebook. Like the page there,
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and you can have a great timecoming out for a show and we
will have a blast indeed. SoI want to wrap up by playing a
riff and Ryan and Kelly, Iwant you to tell me what riff this
song is from? Okay, soname that song. I'll do it twice.
Then we'll go Kelly and then Ryan. Lady First, Kelly, your
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guess sounds familiar or at least theband ran what do you say? Oh,
you're turning to me on this one. You're tapping me in. It
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sounds familiar, But I think it'sa different instrument than a harmonica that plays
it am I right on that.No, it is. Oh, they
were just in town last night,Rolling Stones. It is keep going girl,
miss you, yes, miss you, miss you? Okay, job
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tell you. I wish I hada Pelly totally scorched me on that one.
I wish I had a prize.So let me just play around with
this for just a moment. Verynice, very nice. Mick Jagger on
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the harmonica, he does that riff, and the Jimmy Junior Blues Band is
bringing Miss You into our repertoire.Wow, we will perform that live once
we get our gigs lined Speaking up, Jimmy, were you at the Rolling
Stones counse or did empower feel?I wish I could have gone. Yeah,
there were like four thousand dollars fortickets there. It's insane these ticket
prices. Look, I don't thinkwe should break up ticket Master off of
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Live Nation. That's a whole otherkettle fish to talk about, But that
doesn't change the fact that these ticketprices are absolutely outrageous and it's really sad
because it prices people out of goodmusic. Yeah. I just think back.
I try to talk to my dad, like, comparatively adjust for inflation.
He saw Jimmy Hendrix, the JimmyHendricks Experience play twice at Coble Hall
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and Detroit, and I think hepaid like thirty five bucks. You know.
One of the big reasons why thisis the case, and it's not
I don't just mean the fees andfee inflation, because that's key. One
of the big drivers is that overthe last few decades, we have had
a transformation in the music business fromwhere most of their money came from their
music and record sales and albums tonow the albums are sort of we want
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you to put out new music andthey support the concerts instead, which means
they have to charge more money thanthey did forty years ago, even adjusting
for inflation, because that's how theseartists make most of their money. And
then we all get caught up.It's like going skiing in the mountains or
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going to the movies. Everything isso darn expensive now. Yeah, and
it's a lot of it's because ofBiden inflation, but it's not just because
of that. There are a lotof elements and it's uh, it's things
are tough right now. It's tough, and it's just pricing people out,
and it's sporting events too. It'sthe same thing. The upper crust crowd
now they get all the good tickets, and the blue collar working class that
used to be the bedrock of supporters, whether it's for music or sports,
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they've been priced out and it's reallysad. Yeah, it really is.
Ryan, it's been fun. Thanksfor having me. Thanks Dan Kaplas for
having me. Great work from Ryanand Kelly on the other side of the
glass, and I appreciate you beingalong for the ride on this Friday.
Lots coming up with the primary electionson Tuesday. Quite something. Check out
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my column today and the Denver GazetteWanda James concealed Kerry hypocrisy. I'm Jimmy
Sangenberger. Have a great weekend andmay God bless America