Dan and Ryan discuss Trump debate strategy if confronted with an opening created by Joe Biden's cognitive decline, and exactly how the former President should execute his response.
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This is Dan Caples and welcome totoday's online podcast edition of The Dan Caplis
Show. Please be sure to giveus a five star rating if you'd be
so kind, and to subscribe,download and listen to the show every single
day on your favorite podcast platform.Tomorrow Election Day and Thursday, probably the
most wild consequential debate of our lifetime. Can't call it a presidential debate because
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only one of the guys is goingto be his party's presidential nominee, but
it's it's still a presidential debate inthe sense that it will have I think
an enormous impact on whether Donald Trumpgets that second term or not. So
love to hear from you on that. Eight five five four zero five eight
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We have lots of sound, obviously, and so you got all the
experts and all the pundits talking aboutwhat he should say, what he shouldn't
say, this, this, thatthat, and we're going to dive into
all of that. But above all, I want to hear from you on
it. I want to hear fromyou on a lot of different aspects of
this thing, including, first andforemost, if you're like me, and
you really think the future of theRepublic depends on Trump getting this second term.
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You know what you want to seehim do and not do. Also,
and I know people say, ah, this is kind of a sub
plot. I don't think it's asubplot at all. I think it's plot
b plot. A is obviously hisTrump versus Trump. I won't even say
Trump versus Biden. Biden's kind ofa prop in this thing. He's irrelevant.
He's not going to be their nominee. Yeah, he will be much
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better than expected on Thursday night,because he always is with these things,
right. I mean, Trump isalready said Ryan at the rally, they're
gonna shoot him in the ass andhe's gonna be great. But yeah,
so whatever they do to him,whatever they do to him, they're able
to get him much better than expectedwhen they absolutely have to. Now,
of course, he has to restfor a week beforehand, and you can't
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really do that on the job withyour day to day responsibilities. That have
been like me Ryan saying, Okay, yeah, no, I'll go in
and try that case for you,but I really need to take a month
off and just sleep first. Youknow, you can't really do that.
Speaking of which, thank you toJimmy Sangenberger and you for helping out on
Friday when I was off handling justa horrific truck crash case and fortunately a
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very good outcome for the client.Just wish a great outcome, but I
just wish it had never happened,right, You just wish those things never
happen. And we're going to betalking a lot more about just the horrific
truck crash cases all over Colorado andwhat Colorado needs to do to start protecting
its citizens from reckless truckers. Andthere's a lot more this state can do,
not to state patrol their heroes,but a lot more that can be
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done at the political level to stopthese crashes from even happening. Because you've
got to admit you're probably out thereright now, and you don't live in
fear, right You're not sitting thereshaking all day every day, but you're
out there right now with a realconcern, a real concern about whether you're
going to get smashed by some semiwhether you're going to be you know,
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the next person stopped there just waitingfor traffic when somebody who shouldn't be driving
on our roads just decides to drivea semi into the back of you,
or their brakes are on fire orwhatever, and because the truck's not properly
maintained. It's just happening all overthis state, and the state the politicians
need to step up and defend Coloradofrom this. So thank you to Jimmy
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and Ryan and Kelly for the timeshe spent in the elevator. I assume
you guys covered that at link.Did you do kind of a live cast?
Oh? Yeah, we did.How long were you stuck in there?
Kelly? That long? And thenshe had four very hunky firemen rescue
her, so kind of turned intoa dream sequence for how many fire women
are there? Well, I don'tknow. They didn't come to rescue me
when I was stuck in the elevator. Maybe they didn't. Then they turned
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around. That's terrible. No,No, I'm not trying to be funny.
I mean, probably right, goingto be funny, but I'm serious,
and we all admire firefighters to themp degree. But are there women
firefighters? Yeah? Yeah, no, I've seen some. I mean there's
not a whole lot of them,but definitely those that can do the job,
and it's a tough job. Ohyeah, no, tough job,
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the tough job, one of thetoughest don brades. I know he did
applied for fire this and that.Finally got a chance to go and test,
and I think after the second testhe just left said it was too
hard. That's very difficult. Butanyway, what some call a subplot I
think it's pretty close to the mainplot on Thursday Night, of course,
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has to do with the maneuvering,now really smart maneuvering by the Trump camp
to try to back CNN, youknow, Jake Tapper and Dana Bash off
and try to get them somewhere nearfair on Thursday Night. So here's a
really interesting exchange between CNN anchor CassieHunt and Caroline Levitt, who is a
Trump Press secretary. So he's basicallysaying, there, well, will I
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let Joe Biden win. It doesseem as though many Republicans have set the
bar very low in terms of arguingthat Joe Biden is basically a senile.
Now you have people like Doug Berghamcoming out and saying, well, President
Biden's very accomplished, trying to setexpectations in a different place. What do
you expect from Joe Biden. Well, first of all, it's so it
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takes someone five minutes to google JakeTapper Donald Trump to see that Jake Tapper
heads, ma'am, can stop,Illeade'll filter, ma'am. I'm going to
stop. If I'm stating to attackmy colleagues. I would like to talk
about you and Donald Trump, whoyou work for, if you are here
to speak on his behalf, andI'm willing to have this conversation. I
am stating facts that your colleagues havestated in the past. Now, I'm
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sorry. If we're going to comeback to Caroline, thank you very much
for your time. You are welcometo come back at any point. She
is welcome to come back and speakabout Donald Trump. And Donald Trump will
have equal time to Joe Biden whenthey both join us now at next early
later this week in Atlanta for thisdebate ourselves. To Carol, I'm not
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saying see Ann should fire Cassie Huntover that. I do think it's a
fireball offense. I think that's justanchor malpractice, and it makes Cassie Hunt
to listen. She has opposite politics, her mind, but I don't think
she's done some good work over theyears. It just makes her look horrible
and the network look horrible. Andwhat it does is it feeds the belief
on the part of many that CNNis an agent of Biden and is going
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to act that way. On Thursdaynight when she won't even allow the Trump
Press secretary to express those concerns aboutthe two moderators, what are you doing
other than confirming, yeah, you'reyou're right to be concerned about that,
John, Is it Johnny Carson?We've never had Johnny Carson call the Dan
Kaplis Show. Welcome John, Yes, thanks Daran, Yes, jarn Carsons
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would wonderful for you when you werein law school. I was undergrad involved
in the student government and just wantedto call in and note that I'm running
for Douglas Commissioner. Here wonderful findfolks to vote tomorrow at seven pm.
We got to get your ballot inand you interview me in the past for
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my work as president of the schoolboard, putting in the voucher program and
school choice policies. But I willtie this into your question about the debate
coming up. When I'm knocking ondoors. The thing on people's mind is
the high cost of living and thetaxes and everything. And I think that
Donald Trump just to take a chapterout of Reagan's approach in nineteen eighty and
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calmly lay out what's happened in thelast four years. And he has the
benefit of having been president himself forfour years, so he had remarkable ability
to show the contrast very calmly tofolks and just focus on that. Boy,
John, I think you are soright. I mean, all you
have to do is stand up there, and no matter what Biden says is
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hey, were you better off whenI was president or well he's president.
I mean, it just comes backto that, right. And Hey,
thanks to the reminder John about tomorrownight, because you know, I think
this has snuck up on a lotof people. I've got my bellet filled
out, but it's sitting there onthe counter and I'm obviously going to get
it in before seven o'clock tomorrow.But I think it's a good reminder for
folks because this is sort of spedby Hey, what's your website? For
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those who want to check you out? Carson for Commissioner dot comfo R In
the middle of Carson for Commissioner dotcom Douglas County Commissioner And like you said,
Johnny Carson, you can remember iteasy and easy. I am finding
the turnout is pretty low so far. Yeah, yeah, big spike we're
expecting. Hey, in our lastfifteen seconds, what's your prediction for the
Buffs? This year? Much betterthan last year. I think last year
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was fun. Last year was funfor a long time. But yeah,
nobody. Yeah, eight wins alittle better than four wins this year we're
helping. Yeah, eight wins anda major bowl game and I shot at
the college playoffs. Hey, John, appreciate the call man, Thank you
for that. You bet? Thanks, Dan, you take care of that.
Is John Carson running for County Commissionerand dunco. Hey, we'll come
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back to our fulle linee text aswell. Hey, if you're like me,
you're really excited for this week,collection day tomorrow, the debate on
Thursday. So much to talk abouton both fronts. Eight five five for
zero five A two five five thenumber? What do you want to see
Trump do and not do? Text? Dan da N five seven seven three
nine And now back to the DanKaplas Show podcast now the Trump presidency is
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coming to an mp. It hasbeen a time where truth in fact we're
treated with disdain. It is atime of cruelty, an era of just
playing meanness for tens of millions ofour fellow Americans. This is the tabar
lotery. National nightmare is over.There's a lot for President Biden to tout.
Americans don't seem to be giving himthe credit. Why is that and
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what does he have to do toturn that around? He certainly met the
moment they wanted him to be afighter, and boy fight, did he
deliver. Trump's claim about Biden orchestratingthe trial is baseless allegations with absolutely no
evidence that he was making. EvenPresident Biden that he is behind all of
the prosecutions. There's no evidence thatJoe Biden was involved. There's no evidence,
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absolutely no evidence than Biden himself wasn'tbucked at down study from the University
of my Eyeballs nominee for president,US intelligence agencies are reportedly preparing to share
classified briefings with him should Donald Trumpreceive intelligence briefings. Congressman Brian mast a
Republican from Florida who lost his legsby the way fighting for democracy abroad,
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although I don't know what is Idon't know about his commitment to it here
in the United States. And weare waiting for former President Trump to make
his first formal remarks. We're notcarrying his remarks live because frankly, he
says a lot of things that arenot true. And these are the debate
moderators, and you know what,we should all be very very happy they
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are because listen, you may Fridaymorning, you may be the first person
to call this show and you maylaugh at me for two hours straight.
That may be all we do Friday. Is you laughing at me? But
I doubt it, because I'm tellingyou right now that these two are obviously
so biased against Trump, they aregoing to be on their best behavior on
Thursday night. They're going to bendover backwards to be fair. And now,
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obviously they hate Trump and they don'tlove Biden, but they hate Trump
and they want the Democrat to win, and so they will. There will
be different ways they try to accomplishthat, but overall, I predict to
you right now, market down Ryanfor twenty three oh six on Monday the
twenty fourth, got it that thisis the most fairly moderated debate Trump has
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participated in. Because they're so obviouslybiased against him, they're gonna have to
bend over backwards. Really, hopeyou're right. We'll see that. The
tell will be Trump's going to beasked about twenty twenty to the accept the
results of the election Jan six andI agree with all that. But will
they ask Joe about the veracity ofhis son's laptop which he disavows The debate
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wills a litmus test. I hopeyou're right. It's I'm a little less
optimistic, but I'll tell you this, But, Ryan, this would not
be the equivalent of, say,Brett Bahar and Martha McCallum moderating a debate
for Fox News, which Shoe Bidenwould never agree to. This is the
equivalent, Dan, in my mind, of Sean Hannity and Laura Ingram moderating
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a debate. And what would theydo? What would those two do because
they're people of principle. This isthe difference, my friend, Ryan,
Right, those two would bend overbackwards to be fair. I think so
the lefty they would, and Tapperand Bash don't want to do that.
But but here's the key for everybodyto watch. In my humble opinion,
Ryan's right about the litmus test questions, and Trump will be asked that,
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of course, and Biden will beasked that about the computer. But the
questions that are asked don't matter atall. They aren't worth dog urine.
The questions that are asked are meaningless. They're a waste of breath, They're
a waste of time. All thatmatters, say it all together. All
that matters Thursday night are the followup questions. It's the follow up questions.
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You can ask anybody any question youwant. Who cares. If it's
a good, tough question, youmight get an initial but it doesn't matter
because the candidate can just go saywhatever they want to say. It's all
about the follow up questions. That'swhere I submit to you, my friend,
the litmus test lies the real proofas to whether Bash and Tap are
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going to be fair. Are theyequally aggressive with the follow up questions to
Biden as they will be with thefollow up questions to Trump? The follow
up questions to Trump, it isgoing to be like that dog on a
bone, right feel if there's anyif there's any effort to dodge the question
then, but with Biden, whatyou may very well get, You'll get
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the tough initial question, then Biden'soh Google, Google, got go Gaga,
Thank you, mister president. Youknow. So it's all in the
follow up questions. My bold prediction, at great risk to myself, is
that even in the follow up questions, they will be tougher on Biden than
any of these other moderators have been. They will not be as tough as
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they'll be on Trump, but theywill be better because it's they come in
so obviously biased against Trump. They'regonna have to bend over backwards. But
watch the follow up question. I'mthinking, bat Dan, were there only
two debates last time rather than threebecause it was because of COVID the one
in the middle, so there Iwas able to weasel out of that,
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the Chris Wallace debate, which wasterrible and he was awful, Oh,
great disservice to America. And thenKristen Welker, who I thought did a
decent job, and even Trump himselfsaid that she did a pretty decent job
after that. So where would yousay on that scale that Bash and Tapper
are going to be or will theybe better than Welker did oh, I
think they'll be better than Welker.I think yet, I think people will
come out of this debate saying,wow, I was really surprised that that
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Bash and Tapper were that fair.Now here's the secret sauce. Okay,
like you know editing out, theydon't tell you about certain things they serve,
but they don't have on the menu. Okay, animal style, right,
animal style frives, which everybody knowsabout now, right, But here's
the secret sauce. Here's the secretsauce, and one reason you can be
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highly confident that Bash and Tapper willbe better and expected and people will come
out saying wow, I'm surprised theywere that heart on Biden. They don't
want him. They want him gone. Oh he's a loser. They want
him out, and they want himout now. So they've got this this
double motivation. They've got the selfishmotivation to show they're not partisan hacks,
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even though they've acted that way towardTrump, to show the real journal right,
they've got that selfish motivation, Butthen they've got the ideological motivation because
guess what, they are not theonly lefties out there who want Biden gone
as soon as possible. It isthe consensus view of the left right now.
They just won't say it. Theywant him gone. So if you're
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Bash and Tapper and you're sitting therecalculating your own self interest, you're saying,
thank you God, this is lowhanging fruit. This is t ball,
because I can show myself to bea real journalist and be equally hard
on both and do the bidding ofthe left, which wants to get rid
of this snilo guy. Ah,that's next level stuff right there here.
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And I tend to agree with you, because if Joe Biden clearly loses this
debate, and I'm predicting that hewill, I'm not trying to lower the
bar any of that crowd. I'mtelling you what I think is going to
happen. And let's say the nextpolls, next wave of polls that come
out show Trump expanding his lead tosay, three four points on the national
level. There's no way Biden's candidacysurvives that in the wake of what I
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just described. If that were tohappen, if Biden loses the debate and
the polls go more in Trump's favor, then I might agree with you that
Biden is done. They can't runat that point. He's done already,
right, this is dead campaign walking, you know. The only thing left
is the timing. And to yourpoint, fine, if it comes down
that way, then yeah, it'ssooner than it otherwise would have been.
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Right. But even if Biden has, by his low standards, a great
night and Trump has a bad night, Biden's still not going to be there.
Now many Alexa asks in the texthere do you think Biden has been
provided with the questions for the debate? Allah? Donna Brazil with Hillary Clinton?
Not a chance in a billion?Really? Yeah? Yeah, then
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the network couldn't risk that. Thenetwork could not risk that. Plus please
please let me go to this,Frank help me out. Now, let's
all remember, let's all remember CNNwants Biden gone. They want the Democrat
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to win, which means they wantBiden gone because they know he's going to
lose to Trump. They want adifferent Democrat as the nominee. Yeah,
so if you accept that premise,all things you're about to watch unfold will
make sense. But how do youthink Trump should answer the question of,
hey, who won in twenty twenty? You're on the Dan Capita Show.
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You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Showpodcast. Even I won't buy bacon anymore.
It's too expensive. I said,I'd love to have some lovely bacon,
Darling, and she said, no, I'm sorry to expensively cond you
picture that, Ryan, can youpickure? No? First, you think
Malania cooks bacon. I don't thinkMillennia cooks. Listen. I'm very impressed
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Amonia. But I'm not being criticalat all. I'm just not sure that
exchange has happened. Listen at marA Lago. Melania does not have to
do any of the cooking. Okay, maybe she chooses time, I would
say. I'll tell you Amy takesgreat, great pride at cooking. Yeah,
she really does. Grilles I do. I'm a very good griller,
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but Amy takes great pride in actuallycooking. Let's go to a Katie in
Loveland. You're on the Dan KaplaShow. And by the way, tell
me I have the answer. Bythe way, the Trump campaign should pay
me for this. You haven't heardit anywhere, anytime, any place.
But I want to ask Katie.First. When President Trump is asked who
won the twenty twenty election, whatshould his answer be Katie. His answer
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should be definitely not the United Statesof America or the American people. Wow,
you are good. My answer isand you know it's got to be
short and ice right to be apunch mister president who won in twenty twenty
the American people lost? Yeah,yeah, there you go. Yeah,
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send me the chat. No,no, no, yours was very very
good. What are you thinking?I'm thinking. You know, I've had
family members with Alzheimer's. My motherdied, Two mothers died. My mother
was a one sibling of nine andfive of them died from it. And
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I'll tell you what, she's amouth. And I have sat all along
in my heart to seeing people inmy family that I love go through that.
And why did Jill Biden and whoeverelse is behind him allow him to
do that? It's so so disturbing, And now I have another brother in
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a shifted living. I am sosorry. I'm so sorry. Have you
ever toured the White House? Never? Yeah? Yeah, And I'm just
saying the only reason I after thatI haven't. Yeah. The only reason
I asked the question is is obviouslyit's intoxicating to a lot of people,
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right, and they'll do anything toget it, and anything to stay there,
and then Air Force one and allthe other perks and all this and
all that, and you look atJoe Biden, who and listen, the
measure of a person's success and qualityand importance is not money. But in
Joe Biden's case, you know,he had no money, and then he's
a year out of his vice presidencyand he has eleven million dollars in the
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bank. I just think the lureis just so powerful. Some people will
do anything to stay there. Itotally think his wife, Jill does not
want to leave there. I thinkand I could get four more years,
she would be a happy camera well. I appreciate the call, Kittie,
thank you for that. I haveno doubt she would be a happy camper
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if if they could. But Ithink that she must be aware at this
point he's not going to be theDemocrat nominee eight five five four zero five
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I think they're trying to set upthe off ramp to their best possible
advantage, but they must both realizeat this point he's he's not going to
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be the nominee. So I thinkThursday night is obviously much more about Trump.
We can already write the headline onBiden Biden better than expected that that's
going to be Thursday night unless weget Unless we get one of those really
sad freeze ups that we've seen repeatedly. Now they've as I predicted they would,
They've essentially rested him for a fullweek now before the debate, and
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they're going to do the other stuff, whatever that is they do with him.
So the freeze up is much lesslikely. Right, So the headline
on Biden is likely to be betterthan expected. Biden's virtually irrelevant this debate.
It's really about Trump and his performance. What do you want to see
him do and not do? Somemore from President Trump? Don't give me
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any of that USA. Go outand vote, that's all. I yes,
don't say the USA, USA.We love Trump USA. And then
November fifth comes along, or anyof the previous days, you know,
the early voting. But and thenyou said, Darling, I'm I'm just
a little tired. I think I'llskip the vote. You can't do that.
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You got to vote no USA rightnow? Do you just go out
and vote? Then we'll go USA, because then we're going to make our
country great again. I'm glad tohear President Trump pushing the early voting,
really happy to see that. Obviouslyit was a big mistake in the past
to go the other way, butI think they've got that part straightened out.
And there was an interesting CNN headlineI meant to tweet this one out.
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I'll try to capture it and tweetit, which was many surprise by
strength of Trump's ground game. Sothe reporting out there is is that this
campaign has put together a really goodground game. And as you know,
when it comes to campaign raises thismuch money and that much money, well
fine, but what really matters ishow smart you spend it. And those
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campaigns that are spending more and moremoney, unfortunately Polis was a great example
of that in Colorado, you know, spend his twenty four million out of
pocket very wisely, didn't just pourit all into media somewhere, put it
into ground game, infrastructure, openingoffices around the state, humans to go
door to door. And the reportingout there is that the Trump campaign this
time around is doing a very goodjob of that. And let's hope.
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So a lot going on locally inColorado that we need to touch on today.
So we'll dive into that when wecome back from the break as well,
but always, always, and throughoutthis show and every show this week,
and obviously on Friday after the debate, you know, we want to
focus on that because tell me ifyou think I'm wrong, but I I
don't think there's been one as importantin our lifetime. Nixon Kennedy. Yeah,
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that was really really important and reallyimportant because it decided that election in
JFK's favor, and the whole countrywas better for it. But man,
when you think of everything that's atstake now, because I was just a
little little bitty back then, soI don't remember any of that, but
there is no way this nation wasas fraction polarized back then as it is
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right now. Right, I mean, it is at toxic, toxic,
dangerous levels in this country, andwhich makes this debate so much more important
because the only way that we're goingto get this toxicity tamped down to the
point where we can at least startto see normal again is Trump getting a
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second term and conservatives winning a bunchconsistently. That's and if Trump had had
that second term. If COVID hadn'ttaken that away, no matter what people
thought of his personality and this andthat, Hey, things were going so
well, and they would have goneso well that at that point more and
more people are voting conservative. Oneside has essentially won at least for the
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foreseeable future, and then you canstart to tamp this craziness down. And
that's so. And you know,if we don't, if conservatives don't win,
then obviously there's a chance that theleft will accomplish that. And seeing
the abuses of the left and lawfair and the ways they're willing to pervert,
you know, our foundational systems totry to get a permanent electoral majority,
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yeah, it is possible that theycould. So that's why I think
this debate is the most important oneof our lifetime. Eight five five or
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I do want to shift to theseColorado races a little bit. Who
do you think is going to win? And why? What's the consequence of
that? You're on the Dan KaplaShow, and now back to the Dan
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Tapla's Show podcast. I don't knowwhy he's We're surprised by Trump? How
many times he have to prove wecan't be trusted? That was the commentators
correct into that eight fy five forzero five eight two five five the number.
Listen, we all know what theheadline is going to be from Thursday
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night. Biden better than expected,Biden looks great, Biden's Benjamin Button,
all that stuff because the bar isso low, because Biden normally acts below
that bar. But they can gethim ready when they need to, and
this will be Thursday night, soTrump, But what if he really is
terrible? Dan, It's possible.It's within the realm of outcomes that Biden
is a complete disaster. It's whatit can happen. Oh sure, how
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much they rest him or what theyshoot him up with, Well, sure
you're right about that, because unfortunately, he is in this severe cognitive and
physical decline and we've seen all thesefreeze ups lately, and they've had this
workable formula. Right, they needa week of rest this time and then
whatever they give him, et cetera. But that doesn't mean with somebody in
decline that it's necessarily going to work. Now they've minimized the stimulation and distraction
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for him, here very effectively ifyou're in the Biden camp, no studio
audience. We saw how Biden justfroze up and weirded out when he had
that press audience in there after theher report was released, So they've taken
that away. So he can operatein an atmosphere much much, much more
quiet than your typical nursing home,right, So he's got that atmosphere.
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Trump's Michael be muted, and Ithink that's going to work out well for
Trump as well when it's not histurn to talk. So they're controlling all
of that Ryan, right, Sothat should help a lot in terms of
avoiding those freeze ups. But aguy in decline, you're right, it
could happen. And if that happens, all it means, my friend,
right is you've got two big things. You've got it ending fairly instantly for
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Biden. First is the ramp Ithink they have set up right now where
he's probably he's out somewhere between nowand the convention, assuming that he does
quote unquote well on Thursday night.But the other thing, my friend and
I would ask you, and Iwould ask everybody kind enough to listen to
to give me your take on this, How should Trump handle how should Trump
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handle any freeze ups, any ofthis weird baby talk? Google got babe
bye back bye go Google babe baystuff. If you get one of those
horrible sad moments or more than one, what should Trump do with it?
Eight five five or zero five Atwo five five takes da N five seven
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breathe, You give that space toplay out, and you let Biden totally
just dangle, and then when it'shis turn, be pay very patient something
Trump's not very good at the see, so see what we're dealing with over
here, and then just provide thatkind of okay? Is that better?
Or is the other? And thisis truly a question, is the other
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approach better? Is the approach ifif Biden starts to go down that road,
to jump on it? Now,obviously the Biden camp wanted the mic
mute it so that that Trump wouldhave a harder time doing that. But
just because your mic'soft doesn't mean thatthe guy standing across from you a few
steps can't hear you. So itdoesn't necessarily matter if the public can hear
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you should and I truly underline theword. If that starts to happen,
should Trump press it? And shouldTrump say, see Jake, see Dana.
This is what I'm talking about.I'm not trying to be mean,
but the country's at stake. Thesurvival of this nation's at stake, the
free worlds at stake. He's obviouslynot competent to serve in this office.
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It's not personal, you know,we have to protect the American people.
Should he start doing that, Ithink he can say exactly what you said,
but be patient in doing it.Just let Biden dangle, and then
when it comes to you, sayexactly what you said. I'm asking a
different question. If we get oneor more of those Biden moments, should
Trump do that while those moments arehappening. No? Why not? Because
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I think it's more powerful and effectiveif you just an independent and unaffiliated out
there who's undecided for whatever reason.If there are any left, can watch
for themselves what's happening with Biden.They don't need Trump to jump in.
They can see it. That can'tbe disguised, that can't be explained away.
Biden will be on trial right atthat very moment. And I think
those that will be watching will betuned in enough to recognize that for themselves.
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And I think to this Texter's point, Dan, I think this is
right. He or she goes.I want Donald Trump to make Joe Biden
look just good enough so the DemocratParty will want to keep him as the
candidateyeh. But there's no chance ofthat, right, literally, there's no
chance of Physically, he can't makeit that far. But but and I
asked this question, and listen,it's not out of a sense of meanness
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or drama or anything like that.And I my first priority is hopefully helping
my kids and my family and Godwilling me get to heaven. Okay,
that is my first priority. Itis not winning any particular presidential election.
But but would it be legitimate?Would it not be legitimate if Biden's having
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one of those moments for Trump togo for the knockout punch, if he
does it the right way and putBiden to a stress test. Listen,
we're all put through stress tests everyday in our jobs, right, whether
your job is raising the kids,whether you're in an office somewhere, whether
you're in a courtroom, whether you'rein this that that we're all put through
stress tests every day, you know. But Biden is not somebody's you know,
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just fading old uncle down in thebasement watching Hehaw reruns. You know,
Biden is responsible for the safety andsurvival of this nation. So why
would it not be fair for Trumpto stress test him if he starts having
one of those freeze ups in there. If you're going to do that,
you'd have to do it the rightway, similar to what I suggest.
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I understand all the reasons to notdo it. But if you're Trump and
you're standing there, and you maybe this close to ending the Biden candidacy,
do you do that? Do youhave an obligation to the American people
to do it? I think hehas an obligation, Donald Trump to win
and to win this debate and inso doing send a little bit of a
different tone and message to the votersthat might not like Trump, who might
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come around to his way of thinkingif they agree with him on policy,
and if he demonstrates constraint and controland shows that he can hold off on
that one moment, not that hewon't deliver that knockout punch. I'm all
for that, but the timing ofit. To your point, Dan is
critical and he can't come across asbullying Biden because that's what lost hundred Personbate
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last one hundred percent correct. Andlisten if he came in with that same
kind of bs this time around,the inane, out of control, constant
interruption of Biden to no particular point, he's just handing this election to whoever
the Democrat nomine is going to be. We all know he's not going to
do that, right. I'm talkingabout a whole different critter here, and
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I'd love to hear from you onthis now and after news eight five five
four zero five eight two five fivetexts DA N five seven seven through nine,
because we may get this moment onThursday. I don't think we will,
but we may. Does Trump havean obligation to stress test Biden?
Stress tests meaning not personal, notmean not torturing. But is he up
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to this job? Because right now, when Biden has these freeze up moments,
he's totally protected in a cocoon.Does Trump have an obligation to push
him if that starts to happen orwould it be wrong on a moral level
and disastrous politically eight five five fourzero five A two five five texts d
An five seven seven three nine.You're on the Dan Kapler Show.
This is Dan Caples and welcome totoday's online podcast edition of The Dan Caplis
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most wild consequential debate of our lifetime. Can't call it a presidential debate because
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only one of the guys is goingto be his party's presidential nominee, but
it's it's still a presidential debate inthe sense that it will have I think
an enormous impact on whether Donald Trumpgets that second term or not. So
love to hear from you on that. Eight five five four zero five eight
two five to five the number textd A N five seven seven three nine.
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We have lots of sound, obviously, and so you got all the
experts and all the pundits talking aboutwhat he should say, what he shouldn't
say, this, this, thatthat, and we're going to dive into
all of that. But above all, I want to hear from you on
it. I want to hear fromyou on a lot of different aspects of
this thing, including, first andforemost, if you're like me, and
you really think the future of theRepublic depends on Trump getting this second term.
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You know what you want to seehim do and not do. Also,
and I know people say, ah, this is kind of a sub
plot. I don't think it's asubplot at all. I think it's plot
b plot. A is obviously hisTrump versus Trump. I won't even say
Trump versus Biden. Biden's kind ofa prop in this thing. He's irrelevant.
He's not going to be their nominee. Yeah, he will be much
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better than expected on Thursday night,because he always is with these things,
right. I mean, Trump isalready said Ryan at the rally, they're
gonna shoot him in the ass andhe's gonna be great. But yeah,
so whatever they do to him,whatever they do to him, they're able
to get him much better than expectedwhen they absolutely have to. Now,
of course, he has to restfor a week beforehand, and you can't
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really do that on the job withyour day to day responsibilities. That have
been like me Ryan saying, Okay, yeah, no, I'll go in
and try that case for you,but I really need to take a month
off and just sleep first. Youknow, you can't really do that.
Speaking of which, thank you toJimmy Sangenberger and you for helping out on
Friday when I was off handling justa horrific truck crash case and fortunately a
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very good outcome for the client.Just wish a great outcome, but I
just wish it had never happened,right, You just wish those things never
happen. And we're going to betalking a lot more about just the horrific
truck crash cases all over Colorado andwhat Colorado needs to do to start protecting
its citizens from reckless truckers. Andthere's a lot more this state can do,
not to state patrol their heroes,but a lot more that can be
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done at the political level to stopthese crashes from even happening. Because you've
got to admit you're probably out thereright now, and you don't live in
fear, right You're not sitting thereshaking all day every day, but you're
out there right now with a realconcern, a real concern about whether you're
going to get smashed by some semiwhether you're going to be you know,
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the next person stopped there just waitingfor traffic when somebody who shouldn't be driving
on our roads just decides to drivea semi into the back of you,
or their brakes are on fire orwhatever, and because the truck's not properly
maintained. It's just happening all overthis state, and the state the politicians
need to step up and defend Coloradofrom this. So thank you to Jimmy
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and Ryan and Kelly for the timeshe spent in the elevator. I assume
you guys covered that at link.Did you do kind of a live cast?
Oh? Yeah, we did.How long were you stuck in there?
Kelly? That long? And thenshe had four very hunky firemen rescue
her, so kind of turned intoa dream sequence for how many fire women
are there? Well, I don'tknow. They didn't come to rescue me
when I was stuck in the elevator. Maybe they didn't. Then they turned
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around. That's terrible. No,No, I'm not trying to be funny.
I mean, probably right, goingto be funny, but I'm serious,
and we all admire firefighters to themp degree. But are there women
firefighters? Yeah? Yeah, no, I've seen some. I mean there's
not a whole lot of them,but definitely those that can do the job,
and it's a tough job. Ohyeah, no, tough job,
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the tough job, one of thetoughest don brades. I know he did
applied for fire this and that.Finally got a chance to go and test,
and I think after the second testhe just left said it was too
hard. That's very difficult. Butanyway, what some call a subplot I
think it's pretty close to the mainplot on Thursday Night, of course,
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has to do with the maneuvering,now really smart maneuvering by the Trump camp
to try to back CNN, youknow, Jake Tapper and Dana Bash off
and try to get them somewhere nearfair on Thursday Night. So here's a
really interesting exchange between CNN anchor CassieHunt and Caroline Levitt, who is a
Trump Press secretary. So he's basicallysaying, there, well, will I
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let Joe Biden win. It doesseem as though many Republicans have set the
bar very low in terms of arguingthat Joe Biden is basically a senile.
Now you have people like Doug Berghamcoming out and saying, well, President
Biden's very accomplished, trying to setexpectations in a different place. What do
you expect from Joe Biden. Well, first of all, it's so it
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takes someone five minutes to google JakeTapper Donald Trump to see that Jake Tapper
heads, ma'am, can stop,Illeade'll filter, ma'am. I'm going to
stop. If I'm stating to attackmy colleagues. I would like to talk
about you and Donald Trump, whoyou work for, if you are here
to speak on his behalf, andI'm willing to have this conversation. I
am stating facts that your colleagues havestated in the past. Now, I'm
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sorry. If we're going to comeback to Caroline, thank you very much
for your time. You are welcometo come back at any point. She
is welcome to come back and speakabout Donald Trump. And Donald Trump will
have equal time to Joe Biden whenthey both join us now at next early
later this week in Atlanta for thisdebate ourselves. To Carol, I'm not
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saying see Ann should fire Cassie Huntover that. I do think it's a
fireball offense. I think that's justanchor malpractice, and it makes Cassie Hunt
to listen. She has opposite politics, her mind, but I don't think
she's done some good work over theyears. It just makes her look horrible
and the network look horrible. Andwhat it does is it feeds the belief
on the part of many that CNNis an agent of Biden and is going
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to act that way. On Thursdaynight when she won't even allow the Trump
Press secretary to express those concerns aboutthe two moderators, what are you doing
other than confirming, yeah, you'reyou're right to be concerned about that,
John, Is it Johnny Carson?We've never had Johnny Carson call the Dan
Kaplis Show. Welcome John, Yes, thanks Daran, Yes, jarn Carsons
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would wonderful for you when you werein law school. I was undergrad involved
in the student government and just wantedto call in and note that I'm running
for Douglas Commissioner. Here wonderful findfolks to vote tomorrow at seven pm.
We got to get your ballot inand you interview me in the past for
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my work as president of the schoolboard, putting in the voucher program and
school choice policies. But I willtie this into your question about the debate
coming up. When I'm knocking ondoors. The thing on people's mind is
the high cost of living and thetaxes and everything. And I think that
Donald Trump just to take a chapterout of Reagan's approach in nineteen eighty and
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calmly lay out what's happened in thelast four years. And he has the
benefit of having been president himself forfour years, so he had remarkable ability
to show the contrast very calmly tofolks and just focus on that. Boy,
John, I think you are soright. I mean, all you
have to do is stand up there, and no matter what Biden says is
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hey, were you better off whenI was president or well he's president.
I mean, it just comes backto that, right. And Hey,
thanks to the reminder John about tomorrownight, because you know, I think
this has snuck up on a lotof people. I've got my bellet filled
out, but it's sitting there onthe counter and I'm obviously going to get
it in before seven o'clock tomorrow.But I think it's a good reminder for
folks because this is sort of spedby Hey, what's your website? For
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those who want to check you out? Carson for Commissioner dot comfo R In
the middle of Carson for Commissioner dotcom Douglas County Commissioner And like you said,
Johnny Carson, you can remember iteasy and easy. I am finding
the turnout is pretty low so far. Yeah, yeah, big spike we're
expecting. Hey, in our lastfifteen seconds, what's your prediction for the
Buffs? This year? Much betterthan last year. I think last year
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was fun. Last year was funfor a long time. But yeah,
nobody. Yeah, eight wins alittle better than four wins this year we're
helping. Yeah, eight wins anda major bowl game and I shot at
the college playoffs. Hey, John, appreciate the call man, Thank you
for that. You bet? Thanks, Dan, you take care of that.
Is John Carson running for County Commissionerand dunco. Hey, we'll come
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back to our fulle linee text aswell. Hey, if you're like me,
you're really excited for this week,collection day tomorrow, the debate on
Thursday. So much to talk abouton both fronts. Eight five five for
zero five A two five five thenumber? What do you want to see
Trump do and not do? Text? Dan da N five seven seven three
nine And now back to the DanKaplas Show podcast now the Trump presidency is
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coming to an mp. It hasbeen a time where truth in fact we're
treated with disdain. It is atime of cruelty, an era of just
playing meanness for tens of millions ofour fellow Americans. This is the tabar
lotery. National nightmare is over.There's a lot for President Biden to tout.
Americans don't seem to be giving himthe credit. Why is that and
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what does he have to do toturn that around? He certainly met the
moment they wanted him to be afighter, and boy fight, did he
deliver. Trump's claim about Biden orchestratingthe trial is baseless allegations with absolutely no
evidence that he was making. EvenPresident Biden that he is behind all of
the prosecutions. There's no evidence thatJoe Biden was involved. There's no evidence,
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absolutely no evidence than Biden himself wasn'tbucked at down study from the University
of my Eyeballs nominee for president,US intelligence agencies are reportedly preparing to share
classified briefings with him should Donald Trumpreceive intelligence briefings. Congressman Brian mast a
Republican from Florida who lost his legsby the way fighting for democracy abroad,
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although I don't know what is Idon't know about his commitment to it here
in the United States. And weare waiting for former President Trump to make
his first formal remarks. We're notcarrying his remarks live because frankly, he
says a lot of things that arenot true. And these are the debate
moderators, and you know what,we should all be very very happy they
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are because listen, you may Fridaymorning, you may be the first person
to call this show and you maylaugh at me for two hours straight.
That may be all we do Friday. Is you laughing at me? But
I doubt it, because I'm tellingyou right now that these two are obviously
so biased against Trump, they aregoing to be on their best behavior on
Thursday night. They're going to bendover backwards to be fair. And now,
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obviously they hate Trump and they don'tlove Biden, but they hate Trump
and they want the Democrat to win, and so they will. There will
be different ways they try to accomplishthat, but overall, I predict to
you right now, market down Ryanfor twenty three oh six on Monday the
twenty fourth, got it that thisis the most fairly moderated debate Trump has
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participated in. Because they're so obviouslybiased against him, they're gonna have to
bend over backwards. Really, hopeyou're right. We'll see that. The
tell will be Trump's going to beasked about twenty twenty to the accept the
results of the election Jan six andI agree with all that. But will
they ask Joe about the veracity ofhis son's laptop which he disavows The debate
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wills a litmus test. I hopeyou're right. It's I'm a little less
optimistic, but I'll tell you this, But, Ryan, this would not
be the equivalent of, say,Brett Bahar and Martha McCallum moderating a debate
for Fox News, which Shoe Bidenwould never agree to. This is the
equivalent, Dan, in my mind, of Sean Hannity and Laura Ingram moderating
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a debate. And what would theydo? What would those two do because
they're people of principle. This isthe difference, my friend, Ryan,
Right, those two would bend overbackwards to be fair. I think so
the lefty they would, and Tapperand Bash don't want to do that.
But but here's the key for everybodyto watch. In my humble opinion,
Ryan's right about the litmus test questions, and Trump will be asked that,
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of course, and Biden will beasked that about the computer. But the
questions that are asked don't matter atall. They aren't worth dog urine.
The questions that are asked are meaningless. They're a waste of breath, They're
a waste of time. All thatmatters, say it all together. All
that matters Thursday night are the followup questions. It's the follow up questions.
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You can ask anybody any question youwant. Who cares. If it's
a good, tough question, youmight get an initial but it doesn't matter
because the candidate can just go saywhatever they want to say. It's all
about the follow up questions. That'swhere I submit to you, my friend,
the litmus test lies the real proofas to whether Bash and Tap are
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going to be fair. Are theyequally aggressive with the follow up questions to
Biden as they will be with thefollow up questions to Trump? The follow
up questions to Trump, it isgoing to be like that dog on a
bone, right feel if there's anyif there's any effort to dodge the question
then, but with Biden, whatyou may very well get, You'll get
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the tough initial question, then Biden'soh Google, Google, got go Gaga,
Thank you, mister president. Youknow. So it's all in the
follow up questions. My bold prediction, at great risk to myself, is
that even in the follow up questions, they will be tougher on Biden than
any of these other moderators have been. They will not be as tough as
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they'll be on Trump, but theywill be better because it's they come in
so obviously biased against Trump. They'regonna have to bend over backwards. But
watch the follow up question. I'mthinking, bat Dan, were there only
two debates last time rather than threebecause it was because of COVID the one
in the middle, so there Iwas able to weasel out of that,
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the Chris Wallace debate, which wasterrible and he was awful, Oh,
great disservice to America. And thenKristen Welker, who I thought did a
decent job, and even Trump himselfsaid that she did a pretty decent job
after that. So where would yousay on that scale that Bash and Tapper
are going to be or will theybe better than Welker did oh, I
think they'll be better than Welker.I think yet, I think people will
come out of this debate saying,wow, I was really surprised that that
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Bash and Tapper were that fair.Now here's the secret sauce. Okay,
like you know editing out, theydon't tell you about certain things they serve,
but they don't have on the menu. Okay, animal style, right,
animal style frives, which everybody knowsabout now, right, But here's
the secret sauce. Here's the secretsauce, and one reason you can be
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highly confident that Bash and Tapper willbe better and expected and people will come
out saying wow, I'm surprised theywere that heart on Biden. They don't
want him. They want him gone. Oh he's a loser. They want
him out, and they want himout now. So they've got this this
double motivation. They've got the selfishmotivation to show they're not partisan hacks,
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even though they've acted that way towardTrump, to show the real journal right,
they've got that selfish motivation, Butthen they've got the ideological motivation because
guess what, they are not theonly lefties out there who want Biden gone
as soon as possible. It isthe consensus view of the left right now.
They just won't say it. Theywant him gone. So if you're
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Bash and Tapper and you're sitting therecalculating your own self interest, you're saying,
thank you God, this is lowhanging fruit. This is t ball,
because I can show myself to bea real journalist and be equally hard
on both and do the bidding ofthe left, which wants to get rid
of this snilo guy. Ah,that's next level stuff right there here.
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And I tend to agree with you, because if Joe Biden clearly loses this
debate, and I'm predicting that hewill, I'm not trying to lower the
bar any of that crowd. I'mtelling you what I think is going to
happen. And let's say the nextpolls, next wave of polls that come
out show Trump expanding his lead tosay, three four points on the national
level. There's no way Biden's candidacysurvives that in the wake of what I
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just described. If that were tohappen, if Biden loses the debate and
the polls go more in Trump's favor, then I might agree with you that
Biden is done. They can't runat that point. He's done already,
right, this is dead campaign walking, you know. The only thing left
is the timing. And to yourpoint, fine, if it comes down
that way, then yeah, it'ssooner than it otherwise would have been.
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Right. But even if Biden has, by his low standards, a great
night and Trump has a bad night, Biden's still not going to be there.
Now many Alexa asks in the texthere do you think Biden has been
provided with the questions for the debate? Allah? Donna Brazil with Hillary Clinton?
Not a chance in a billion?Really? Yeah? Yeah, then
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the network couldn't risk that. Thenetwork could not risk that. Plus please
please let me go to this,Frank help me out. Now, let's
all remember, let's all remember CNNwants Biden gone. They want the Democrat
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to win, which means they wantBiden gone because they know he's going to
lose to Trump. They want adifferent Democrat as the nominee. Yeah,
so if you accept that premise,all things you're about to watch unfold will
make sense. But how do youthink Trump should answer the question of,
hey, who won in twenty twenty? You're on the Dan Capita Show.
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You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Showpodcast. Even I won't buy bacon anymore.
It's too expensive. I said,I'd love to have some lovely bacon,
Darling, and she said, no, I'm sorry to expensively cond you
picture that, Ryan, can youpickure? No? First, you think
Malania cooks bacon. I don't thinkMillennia cooks. Listen. I'm very impressed
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Amonia. But I'm not being criticalat all. I'm just not sure that
exchange has happened. Listen at marA Lago. Melania does not have to
do any of the cooking. Okay, maybe she chooses time, I would
say. I'll tell you Amy takesgreat, great pride at cooking. Yeah,
she really does. Grilles I do. I'm a very good griller,
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but Amy takes great pride in actuallycooking. Let's go to a Katie in
Loveland. You're on the Dan KaplaShow. And by the way, tell
me I have the answer. Bythe way, the Trump campaign should pay
me for this. You haven't heardit anywhere, anytime, any place.
But I want to ask Katie.First. When President Trump is asked who
won the twenty twenty election, whatshould his answer be Katie. His answer
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should be definitely not the United Statesof America or the American people. Wow,
you are good. My answer isand you know it's got to be
short and ice right to be apunch mister president who won in twenty twenty
the American people lost? Yeah,yeah, there you go. Yeah,
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send me the chat. No,no, no, yours was very very
good. What are you thinking?I'm thinking. You know, I've had
family members with Alzheimer's. My motherdied, Two mothers died. My mother
was a one sibling of nine andfive of them died from it. And
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I'll tell you what, she's amouth. And I have sat all along
in my heart to seeing people inmy family that I love go through that.
And why did Jill Biden and whoeverelse is behind him allow him to
do that? It's so so disturbing, And now I have another brother in
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a shifted living. I am sosorry. I'm so sorry. Have you
ever toured the White House? Never? Yeah? Yeah, And I'm just
saying the only reason I after thatI haven't. Yeah. The only reason
I asked the question is is obviouslyit's intoxicating to a lot of people,
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right, and they'll do anything toget it, and anything to stay there,
and then Air Force one and allthe other perks and all this and
all that, and you look atJoe Biden, who and listen, the
measure of a person's success and qualityand importance is not money. But in
Joe Biden's case, you know,he had no money, and then he's
a year out of his vice presidencyand he has eleven million dollars in the
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bank. I just think the lureis just so powerful. Some people will
do anything to stay there. Itotally think his wife, Jill does not
want to leave there. I thinkand I could get four more years,
she would be a happy camera well. I appreciate the call, Kittie,
thank you for that. I haveno doubt she would be a happy camper
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if if they could. But Ithink that she must be aware at this
point he's not going to be theDemocrat nominee eight five five four zero five
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I think they're trying to set upthe off ramp to their best possible
advantage, but they must both realizeat this point he's he's not going to
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be the nominee. So I thinkThursday night is obviously much more about Trump.
We can already write the headline onBiden Biden better than expected that that's
going to be Thursday night unless weget Unless we get one of those really
sad freeze ups that we've seen repeatedly. Now they've as I predicted they would,
They've essentially rested him for a fullweek now before the debate, and
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they're going to do the other stuff, whatever that is they do with him.
So the freeze up is much lesslikely. Right, So the headline
on Biden is likely to be betterthan expected. Biden's virtually irrelevant this debate.
It's really about Trump and his performance. What do you want to see
him do and not do? Somemore from President Trump? Don't give me
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any of that USA. Go outand vote, that's all. I yes,
don't say the USA, USA.We love Trump USA. And then
November fifth comes along, or anyof the previous days, you know,
the early voting. But and thenyou said, Darling, I'm I'm just
a little tired. I think I'llskip the vote. You can't do that.
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You got to vote no USA rightnow? Do you just go out
and vote? Then we'll go USA, because then we're going to make our
country great again. I'm glad tohear President Trump pushing the early voting,
really happy to see that. Obviouslyit was a big mistake in the past
to go the other way, butI think they've got that part straightened out.
And there was an interesting CNN headlineI meant to tweet this one out.
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I'll try to capture it and tweetit, which was many surprise by
strength of Trump's ground game. Sothe reporting out there is is that this
campaign has put together a really goodground game. And as you know,
when it comes to campaign raises thismuch money and that much money, well
fine, but what really matters ishow smart you spend it. And those
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campaigns that are spending more and moremoney, unfortunately Polis was a great example
of that in Colorado, you know, spend his twenty four million out of
pocket very wisely, didn't just pourit all into media somewhere, put it
into ground game, infrastructure, openingoffices around the state, humans to go
door to door. And the reportingout there is that the Trump campaign this
time around is doing a very goodjob of that. And let's hope.
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So a lot going on locally inColorado that we need to touch on today.
So we'll dive into that when wecome back from the break as well,
but always, always, and throughoutthis show and every show this week,
and obviously on Friday after the debate, you know, we want to
focus on that because tell me ifyou think I'm wrong, but I I
don't think there's been one as importantin our lifetime. Nixon Kennedy. Yeah,
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that was really really important and reallyimportant because it decided that election in
JFK's favor, and the whole countrywas better for it. But man,
when you think of everything that's atstake now, because I was just a
little little bitty back then, soI don't remember any of that, but
there is no way this nation wasas fraction polarized back then as it is
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right now. Right, I mean, it is at toxic, toxic,
dangerous levels in this country, andwhich makes this debate so much more important
because the only way that we're goingto get this toxicity tamped down to the
point where we can at least startto see normal again is Trump getting a
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second term and conservatives winning a bunchconsistently. That's and if Trump had had
that second term. If COVID hadn'ttaken that away, no matter what people
thought of his personality and this andthat, Hey, things were going so
well, and they would have goneso well that at that point more and
more people are voting conservative. Oneside has essentially won at least for the
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foreseeable future, and then you canstart to tamp this craziness down. And
that's so. And you know,if we don't, if conservatives don't win,
then obviously there's a chance that theleft will accomplish that. And seeing
the abuses of the left and lawfair and the ways they're willing to pervert,
you know, our foundational systems totry to get a permanent electoral majority,
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yeah, it is possible that theycould. So that's why I think
this debate is the most important oneof our lifetime. Eight five five or
zero five A two five to fivethe number. And when we go back,
I do want to shift to theseColorado races a little bit. Who
do you think is going to win? And why? What's the consequence of
that? You're on the Dan KaplaShow, and now back to the Dan
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Tapla's Show podcast. I don't knowwhy he's We're surprised by Trump? How
many times he have to prove wecan't be trusted? That was the commentators
correct into that eight fy five forzero five eight two five five the number.
Listen, we all know what theheadline is going to be from Thursday
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night. Biden better than expected,Biden looks great, Biden's Benjamin Button,
all that stuff because the bar isso low, because Biden normally acts below
that bar. But they can gethim ready when they need to, and
this will be Thursday night, soTrump, But what if he really is
terrible? Dan, It's possible.It's within the realm of outcomes that Biden
is a complete disaster. It's whatit can happen. Oh sure, how
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much they rest him or what theyshoot him up with, Well, sure
you're right about that, because unfortunately, he is in this severe cognitive and
physical decline and we've seen all thesefreeze ups lately, and they've had this
workable formula. Right, they needa week of rest this time and then
whatever they give him, et cetera. But that doesn't mean with somebody in
decline that it's necessarily going to work. Now they've minimized the stimulation and distraction
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for him, here very effectively ifyou're in the Biden camp, no studio
audience. We saw how Biden justfroze up and weirded out when he had
that press audience in there after theher report was released, So they've taken
that away. So he can operatein an atmosphere much much, much more
quiet than your typical nursing home,right, So he's got that atmosphere.
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Trump's Michael be muted, and Ithink that's going to work out well for
Trump as well when it's not histurn to talk. So they're controlling all
of that Ryan, right, Sothat should help a lot in terms of
avoiding those freeze ups. But aguy in decline, you're right, it
could happen. And if that happens, all it means, my friend,
right is you've got two big things. You've got it ending fairly instantly for
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Biden. First is the ramp Ithink they have set up right now where
he's probably he's out somewhere between nowand the convention, assuming that he does
quote unquote well on Thursday night.But the other thing, my friend and
I would ask you, and Iwould ask everybody kind enough to listen to
to give me your take on this, How should Trump handle how should Trump
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handle any freeze ups, any ofthis weird baby talk? Google got babe
bye back bye go Google babe baystuff. If you get one of those
horrible sad moments or more than one, what should Trump do with it?
Eight five five or zero five Atwo five five takes da N five seven
seven three nine two things? One, If you're Trump, you let that
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breathe, You give that space toplay out, and you let Biden totally
just dangle, and then when it'shis turn, be pay very patient something
Trump's not very good at the see, so see what we're dealing with over
here, and then just provide thatkind of okay? Is that better?
Or is the other? And thisis truly a question, is the other
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approach better? Is the approach ifif Biden starts to go down that road,
to jump on it? Now,obviously the Biden camp wanted the mic
mute it so that that Trump wouldhave a harder time doing that. But
just because your mic'soft doesn't mean thatthe guy standing across from you a few
steps can't hear you. So itdoesn't necessarily matter if the public can hear
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you should and I truly underline theword. If that starts to happen,
should Trump press it? And shouldTrump say, see Jake, see Dana.
This is what I'm talking about.I'm not trying to be mean,
but the country's at stake. Thesurvival of this nation's at stake, the
free worlds at stake. He's obviouslynot competent to serve in this office.
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It's not personal, you know,we have to protect the American people.
Should he start doing that, Ithink he can say exactly what you said,
but be patient in doing it.Just let Biden dangle, and then
when it comes to you, sayexactly what you said. I'm asking a
different question. If we get oneor more of those Biden moments, should
Trump do that while those moments arehappening. No? Why not? Because
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I think it's more powerful and effectiveif you just an independent and unaffiliated out
there who's undecided for whatever reason.If there are any left, can watch
for themselves what's happening with Biden.They don't need Trump to jump in.
They can see it. That can'tbe disguised, that can't be explained away.
Biden will be on trial right atthat very moment. And I think
those that will be watching will betuned in enough to recognize that for themselves.
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And I think to this Texter's point, Dan, I think this is
right. He or she goes.I want Donald Trump to make Joe Biden
look just good enough so the DemocratParty will want to keep him as the
candidateyeh. But there's no chance ofthat, right, literally, there's no
chance of Physically, he can't makeit that far. But but and I
asked this question, and listen,it's not out of a sense of meanness
(31:57):
or drama or anything like that.And I my first priority is hopefully helping
my kids and my family and Godwilling me get to heaven. Okay,
that is my first priority. Itis not winning any particular presidential election.
But but would it be legitimate?Would it not be legitimate if Biden's having
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one of those moments for Trump togo for the knockout punch, if he
does it the right way and putBiden to a stress test. Listen,
we're all put through stress tests everyday in our jobs, right, whether
your job is raising the kids,whether you're in an office somewhere, whether
you're in a courtroom, whether you'rein this that that we're all put through
stress tests every day, you know. But Biden is not somebody's you know,
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just fading old uncle down in thebasement watching Hehaw reruns. You know,
Biden is responsible for the safety andsurvival of this nation. So why
would it not be fair for Trumpto stress test him if he starts having
one of those freeze ups in there. If you're going to do that,
you'd have to do it the rightway, similar to what I suggest.
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I understand all the reasons to notdo it. But if you're Trump and
you're standing there, and you maybe this close to ending the Biden candidacy,
do you do that? Do youhave an obligation to the American people
to do it? I think hehas an obligation, Donald Trump to win
and to win this debate and inso doing send a little bit of a
different tone and message to the votersthat might not like Trump, who might
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come around to his way of thinkingif they agree with him on policy,
and if he demonstrates constraint and controland shows that he can hold off on
that one moment, not that hewon't deliver that knockout punch. I'm all
for that, but the timing ofit. To your point, Dan is
critical and he can't come across asbullying Biden because that's what lost hundred Personbate
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last one hundred percent correct. Andlisten if he came in with that same
kind of bs this time around,the inane, out of control, constant
interruption of Biden to no particular point, he's just handing this election to whoever
the Democrat nomine is going to be. We all know he's not going to
do that, right. I'm talkingabout a whole different critter here, and
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I'd love to hear from you onthis now and after news eight five five
four zero five eight two five fivetexts DA N five seven seven through nine,
because we may get this moment onThursday. I don't think we will,
but we may. Does Trump havean obligation to stress test Biden?
Stress tests meaning not personal, notmean not torturing. But is he up
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to this job? Because right now, when Biden has these freeze up moments,
he's totally protected in a cocoon.Does Trump have an obligation to push
him if that starts to happen orwould it be wrong on a moral level
and disastrous politically eight five five fourzero five A two five five texts d
An five seven seven three nine.You're on the Dan Kapler Show.
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