Greg Lopez joins Dan to recap his monumental win in the 4th Congressional District special election to serve out the rest of Rep. Ken Buck's current term.
Dan praises Rep. Lauren Boebert (R, CO-3) for outmaneuvering Democrats in her move from the 3rd Congressional District to the 4th, all but sealing a smooth handoff from Greg Lopez in January.
Trump needs to be his classic self, but restrained and focused in Thursday's debate with Joe Biden.
Dan praises Rep. Lauren Boebert (R, CO-3) for outmaneuvering Democrats in her move from the 3rd Congressional District to the 4th, all but sealing a smooth handoff from Greg Lopez in January.
Trump needs to be his classic self, but restrained and focused in Thursday's debate with Joe Biden.
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Were fighters not haters, and fighterswon last night. Fighters won last night
in Colorado. The Colorado GOP hada great night last night because it is
the rebirth of the Colorado GOP.I mean, look what happened across the
state. And then we'll get tothe news of the afternoon, the next
step in the ouster of Dave Williams'sparty chair. But look what happened last
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night. You had these very verystrong GOP primary candidates win, strong in
the sense that they're going to betremendous congressmen and women from Colorado. For
a long time, had Jeff Hearddown in three, Well you had Jeff
Crank in four. Okay, letme start over. Okay, you had
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Jeff Crank in five. You hadheard in three. And then on top
of that, you have Lauren Boebert'sbig win, and that's so beautiful because
she just outmaneuvers the left. Shewas going to lose in three. Now
the Republicans are going to win threewith herd against Frish, and then you
have Lauren Boeber, who's going tobe congresswoman for life from four. I
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mean, it's just it is sucha great night. But the message it
sends is no just a different typeof leadership from the Colorado GOP. So
very very positive night last night forthe Colorado GOP and then the call this
morning for the ouster of Dave Williams. This is official. Now I'm going
to read to you from the releasefrom Todd Watkins from the State Central Committee
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and then want to get your takeon it. Two Chairman Dave Williams CC
State Republican Executive Committee and Republican StateCentral Committee, pursuing to see RC bylaws
Article seven, Section D three.Attached are the signatures of over twenty five
percent of the Colorado Republican State CentralCommittee who hereby request that you call a
special meeting for the purpose of avote on the removal of chairmen of the
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State Republican Party. We request thatthe special meeting be held in person with
closed paper ballot voting, on aSaturday, and at an acceptable time and
place so all SEC members will beable to attend. Please respond within the
ten days prescribed by our bylaws tocall a special meeting no later than thirty
days of this utter. Sincerely,Todd Watkins, State Central Committee Member.
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He will join us at four ohsix tomorrow to start the show. So
just such a positive move forward forthe Colorado GOP. And even if Dave
Williams selfishly hangs on putting himself infront of these causes that we all care
about so much, he's lost allinfluence, right, He's lost his platform,
And so the Colorado GOP now willhave a chance to define itself properly
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and accurately reflect that the Colorado Republicansacross the spectrum eight five five for five
two five five the number because thosewho try to make out this and there
is obviously there's a divide between whatsome would call establishment and I think that's
too broad, and others would callgrassroots. You know that there is so
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much more in common and there isa way to unite the two. I
have it in my mind. I'dlike to know what you think that path
is eight five five for zero fiveA two five five text d an five
seven seven three nine. I teasethis before the break, want to deliver
on it now. A more proofthat I am right in predicting that Biden
will not be the nominee. JaredPolis a Jared Polis sighting surfaced on National
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TV today saying this there outspoken isagainst Israel, and in fact, Bowman's
completely blaming his loss on a pack, the pack in America that supports Israel
for his loss, as if henever did anything wrong. And he uses
the word that APEC spent millions ofdollars and they brainwashed the constituents of his
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district. Well, he does seemunusually obsessed with that topic. I think
the people of his district in Bronxand Westchester, just like the people in
Colorado, want their elected officials tofight for lower costs for a strong economy.
If you seem obsessed about issues that, of course people legitimately care about,
but they're not the kitchen table issuesthat are the most important to people,
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people will say, why are wesending this guy if all he's doing
is fighting about an overseas war andnot delivering on reducing costs and making our
lives easier, our health care lessexpenses. And the point of all that
is great, Boman lost, right, It's great. So many haters lost,
including here in Colorado Hernandez Epps onthe DEM side, you know,
it's beautiful to see people rejecting that. But the point here is that pol
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is surfaced and he's back on nationalTV, and he tweeted out on some
national issue the other day as well. The point is he's positioning. Just
like we talked about yesterday on theshow. You know, Newsome now moving
his family to Marine County out ofSacramento so his kids can have quote educational
continuity. The point is that theyknow Biden is not going to to be
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the nominee, and they're all positioning. They're all positioning to enter that race.
And those like Paulis know they're notgoing to be the nominee. But
Poulis is hoping, you know,one hundred million bucks and pretending to be
a moderate can position him to besomebody's VP, which isn't going to happen
either. So I think his realend game is a cabinet position. But
when you've got one hundred million tothrow around and you've been able to get
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the media to, you know,portray this con that you're some kind of
moderate, yeah, he's going tobe taken much more seriously than either Hickenlooper
or Bennett, who I accurately predictedwould would just fail obviously and miserably after
being protected in the Colorado media bubblefor so many years and Polis eventually,
Yeah, he's not going to bepresident or vice president. Might be able
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to buy his way into a cabinetposition. The problem for him is that
there's probably not going to be aDemocrat cabinet. Aightfi five for Z five
A two five to five the numbertext d A N five seven seven three
nine. So what do you think, Ryan? Do you think you think
at this point Dave Williams resigns,you think tries to hang on. I'll
try to hang on because I thinkhe's delusional to begin with, and delusions
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of grandeur are typically born out ofsomebody that becomes drunk with power, and
absolute power corrupts. Absolutely. Heis absolutely corrupted on every level. And
I can't see him suddenly legally corrupted. You're just talking about a corrupt Well
I don't know about that, Dan, Well, there's up. I don't
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know about that. You know theterm projection. I know you do.
And remember when he cast those aspersionsabout Christy Burton Brown and her mismanagement of
funds was terrific, Well, uh, what was funding his own campaign?
And where are those transactions? Andbut I don't think there's even any allegation
of any law violation. I don'tknow about law. That's what I'm talking
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about. Corruption comes in many forums, Dan, and I think Dave Williams
wears it well. And there's nodoubt about that. He has conflicts of
interest that in and of itself isa form of corruption. As a state
chair, then running in a race, then funding his own campaign, then
endorsing his own campaign from the stateparty chair in a primary something. It's
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been unprecedented. There's so many exampleshere, Dan, of the corruption of
Dave Williams, right, And Ijust want to make sure we're defining the
word corruption. Nobody is suggesting anythingillegal. What we're talking about is you
might call that moral corruption. Asmy own words, that nobody's suggesting anything
illegal. But you know what,our bar is not that low. You
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can't be the GOP party chair ifyou're going to undermine the GOP and if
you are going to essentially misrepresent thatthe entire GOP population in Colorado the way
that Dave has done that, andif you're going to hurt the causes and
help the left the way he has, No, you can't be the GOP
chair. So I just hope thathe steps aside, I have to assume
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that, given the fact this stepwas taken today by the twenty five percent
plus of the Central Committee who havesigned that petition, that Dave Williams assuming
has decided not to resign. Myguess is they would have checked with him
after last night, and if hehad agreed to resign, wouldn't be pursuing
this. But we'll ask mister Watkinshimself. He's going to join us at
four h six tomorrow. Text Dan, as Dave Logan might say, Williams
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has lost the locker room. Boy, I think that's true, and I'd
really love to hear from Dave's strongestsupporters, who every one of Dave's strongest
supporters I know are wonderful people andgreat conservatives, and that's why my conversation
with them is he doesn't represent youproperly. You're not like that. But
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and one example is Ryan, rememberwhen we were trying so hard to get
Dave on the show to just explainhimself, Okay, why did you do
these things that are causing such adivision in the party and undermining the causes
we all care about, and causesI know Dave cares about. When he
wouldn't come on. He wanted tosurrogate to come on. He wanted Ted
Harvey to come on. And I'mlike, wait a second, you're the
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GOP chair. How can you bein hiding. If you're going to be
the chair and claim to be sostrong and claim to be a leader,
you've got to be willing to stepup and explain something like that to the
people. But here's my point.You know Ted is a strong supporter of
Dave. Dave wanted Ted to bea surrogate on the show. How about
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having Ted as a surrogates party chair. Ted Harvey is a great person and
a great Conservative leader. Have TedHarvey be the party chair? Right,
forget being a surrogate on this show. Be a surrogate in the chairmanship.
But yeah, there needs to bea change there, one way or the
other. Though this party has movedon. It's defining itself in a proper
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way now. And that doesn't meanestablishment versus grassroots. It means people who
care about the right causes put inthe hard work. They're doers, not
talkers, and they approach things withthe level of morality and honesty and the
level of decency that we all asconservatives stand for you're on the dan CAPLA
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show. Getting your reaction to it. I think was an extraordinarily good night
for the Colorado GOP last night andfor the future of the state long term,
because not just you know, thatreally solid GOP candidates winning and the
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thorough rejection of this loniness of theleadership of Dave Williams and I put that
word in quotes, because how canyou be a leader if you won't come
on this show, stand up publiclyand just explain what you've been doing.
This show has been the friendliest placein the world for Republicans for almost the
last thirty years. But a rejectionof that nonsense. But on top of
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that, the quality of the candidateswho won, and the fact that these
are going to be really effective,highly respected Republican congress you know and congresswoman
for a long time to come,I think is magnificent. So so many
different steps forward last night for theColorado GUP, which leads to the bigger
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question of, Okay, what doyou think needs to happen to unite the
factions within the Colorado GOP. Thereare obviously some, just as there are
factions within the Democrat party, Andwhat do you think the Colorado GOP and
its candidates need to do to winstatewide in Colorado? Again? Are you
in the camp that just says that'simpossible. So we're talking about all that,
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we're also talking about the most importantdebate of our lifetime tomorrow night.
I'll get to some textures. DA N five seven seven three nine.
Bah bah bah bah Dan. Youguys are lying. Dave Williams did not
use GOP funds to do his campaign. Shame on both you and Ryan.
I think there's some misplaced shaming goingon there. I haven't accused Dave Williams
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of anything improper with money or anythingelse. What I've accused him of is
undermining the causes we all care about, and handing the left major victories and
misrepresenting who the people of the Republicansof Colorado are and we are not about
hate. We go out and wewin these big important issues by out working
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the other side, by persuading people, by winning in the trenches, by
winning everywhere we can. And that'swhat you see from the grassroots in Colorado.
From the so called establishment. Yousee at every level, you know,
but it's bomb throwers like Dave whofalsely portray us as a party as
haters who just hand the Left victories. That's what I'm critical of Dan.
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Trump needs to get away from concentratingon Biden. He needs to show he
realizes Biden's handlers are going to pulla switch and try to gain momentum by
Trump being caught off guard. Trumpjust needs to be Trump right that there's
no way you're ever going to changethat. His authenticity is a big part
of his appeal and his success.And my lord, who has ever stood
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on that debates stay age and hadmore accomplishments to talk about it has gone
into a debate with more amml letalone against an opponent who's at the polar
opposite end of the spectrum. Yeah. No, Trump just needs to be
Trump. And what I mean bythat he needs to be the A Trump
or the A minus Trump, andthe A Trump the A minus Trump is
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focused and focused on winning. AndI would put it the boardroom mentality.
Ryan. If president Trump, andwe've seen him before with this goes in
with that mentality that I would imaginehe entered into boardrooms with when he was
looking to do a big deal,gain an advantage, etc. He has
that kind of focus and he's thatversion of Trump, then yeah, he
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just has to be Trump and listen. If he has a bad night,
I don't expect that at all.But if he's if it's like his first
debate in twenty is first debate insixteen, if he has an off night,
it still doesn't mean he's going tolose because the Biden presidency has been
so bad and we don't even knowwho the Democrat candidate is going to be
yet, and if it's Kamala atthat point, it's virtually impossible to lose
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to Kamala Dan. One of myfavorite things about the election is how much
money the Democrats wasted on Hanks Man. I am with you on that,
and think about it. Think abouthow Congressoman Bobert has outmaneuvered the left.
It's like, you know, WileyCoyote time just dropping the anvil on his
head. She's the road runner,and look what she's done. She was
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going to lose in three, soshe outmaneuvers them by leaving three. I
know she's still the Congressoman there,but running in four where she can be
Congressoman for life now. And atthe same time, the Democrats are going
to waste fourteen to seventeen million onAdam frischdown in three, right, so
they're going to burn money they couldhave spent somewhere else. And you've got
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herd who's going to win down inthree. So Lauren Bobert outmaneuvering the left
like that, and we end upwith a great new Republican congressman in three,
we end up with a great newRepublican congres in five, we end
up with with Lauren Bolbert as congresswomanfor life from four. I mean that,
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and the fact she pulled that onthe left is a beautiful thing.
And listen, is she And I'vecriticized her when she deserves criticism, but
I praised her when she deserves praise, and that is often. That is
often that she deserves praise she doesnot get and she deserves praise for out
maneuvering the left. Here, allright, let's get to text, let's
get to phone calls and some ofthe sound of the day, Dan,
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I have to take slight issue withyour statement that Lauren can ever seet for
life. I feel most of ourills as a country are the result of
career politicians. Look at McConnell,supposedly our side. He's tainted, fresh
blood, fresh ideas and energy.That's Jenna and Springfield, Missouri. Gina,
thank you, Gina. It's nothow gene is usually spelled, is
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it you said that before? Yeah? Yeah, anyway, here's the point
when I say congresswoman for life.My point is just that she could be
if she wanted to be. I'dbe very surprised if she chooses to do
that, because she's very talented,she's very ambitious. I think in a
very positive way. She wants tohave maximum impact on these causes. I
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think she's very effective, particularly fora congress person early in their career,
on those causes, at least withher national platform. But my point is
that she is going to continue tobe so strong. If she wanted to
be, she could be there forlife. And listen, I'm on the
fresh blood thing. I think that'swhat the founders envisioned. There can be
some advantages though, to the folkswho are there long term, and I
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know our Texter takes a shot atMcConnell and I've disagreed with them obviously on
some things. But there should bea statue. There should be a statue
of Mitch McConnell, because think aboutwhat he did to preserve those seats on
the US Supreme Court for Neil Gorsichand Amy Coney Barrett. I'm not sure
anybody else could have done that.And his ability to save those two seats
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and have great conservative justices rather thanliberals legislating from the bench, that's a
monumental, generational, historic importance.And that was Mitch McConnell. So let's
give some credit where it's due.My only point being that that kind of
experience and longevity can also have somebenefits. Wow, So we have a
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lot to do the rest of theshow. Folks on the line, I
want to make sure you get enoughtime on air, so please hang in
there and we'll pop you after thebreak. We're going to do a quick
hit. We'll do a quick hitwith Greg Lopez, who has predicted one
and he's going to do a goodjob and all that. But we do
have so much to talk about andnow, really, man, I would
love to talk a lot about thedebate in this next half hour as well.
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It is just going to be,I think, without a doubt,
the most important debate of our lifetime, and the dynamics are so different.
Think about it. I mean,ponder this if you would, over the
next couple of minutes. Only oneof these candidates is actually going to be
their party's candidate election day. JoeBiden isn't. So think about what that
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does to the dynamic tomorrow night.And do you think he will use tomorrow
night to announce that he's not goingto be the nominee. You're on the
Dan Kapla Show. What a wonderfulday Kelly's birthday, of course, but
the rebirth of the Colorado GOP.I think last night will be looked back
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upon as the start of the newColorado GOP, which is going to be
a far better version, and Ithink one that's going to be much more
successful than expected. Everybody in theline, hang on. I will get
to you very shortly. Great texturesas well, because obviously we have the
fallout from last night, the formalmove today to depose Dave Williams as chair,
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and then of course the most importantdebate of our lifetime tomorrow. In
the meantime, let's go to GregLopez. We always enjoy having Greg on
the show, as you know,and as we predicted. It's no surprise
to anybody that Greg won last night, and he's a congressman elect in c
D four. You'll serve out therest of ken Buck's term. So,
Greg, congratulations, Nice to seein the winner's circle. Nice to see
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good things happen to nice people.And and so what comes next? I've
heard chatter on Ryan's show about somecontroversy over timing. Is Jenna Griswold going
to issue a letter that lets youtake off as sooner? What's all that
about? Well, Danny, thanksfor having me on your show. And
yeah, you know, it's aninteresting dynamic. It's not anything that's overly
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concerning, but you know people areasking me, so hey, Greg,
when do you go to Washington,you know, when you get sworn in?
And you know, the response is, there's two options that the sticktest
they have right now here in Colorado. They can either wait to certify the
vote, which they have up untiltwenty one days to make a formal certification
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of the results. Or she cansend a letter to the speaker of a
House and let them know that Idid win the election and that nothing's going
to change between now and the certification, so that they can go ahead and
get me in and swear me swearme in, uh so that I can
be a part of Congress. Andso that's really the two options. So
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we're kind of on a holding pattern, just waiting for the Secretary of State
to determine what she's going to do. I know the Speaker's office is going
to reach out to her and youknow, just inquire, you know,
what is your what's her thought processin certifying the vote or sending the letter.
In California, the Secretor of Stateof California sent the letter after Vincent
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Fong. Vinfong won the special electionto replace Kevin McCarty. So you know
it has happened already where the Sectorof State says, hey, go ahead
and hey it's going to change,and I expect she'll do that, right.
I mean, it's and I'm nofan of Jennick Griswold, but it's
so obviously about the will of thepeople, the will of the people's It
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is obscene that any American would beunrepresented in Congress, and the people of
c D four have gone without representation, which is their birthright, for this
long. I expect Jenna Grisshold isgoing to do that very quickly. I
do too. I do too.Yeah, full expectation as you will.
So hopefully, you know, ifeverything goes well, it looks like I
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will be in Washington the week ofJuly eighth getting sworn in and start representing
the good people of CD four.Awesome. And let me ask you this
because I'm going to go to callerson this shortly as well. You have
all this perspective. You're in thisrace, You've run other races, You've
been around here a long time,You're in the trenches. Can the GOP
win again statewide? And what's itgoing to take? I think you can.
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Look. One of the important thingsthat I think the GOP needs to
recognized, and now is a perfectopportunity, is that we must embrace and
court the Hispanic community, the Hispanicvote. They are conservative with their values
and family and freedom. We gotto have candidates that are willing to go
out there and work hard, toengage with unaffiliated voters and just be president,
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you know. And I think Lawrenceshowed that coming from CD three to
CD four, she worked hard.She had to re establish relationships, you
know. I did that as well, and other candidates. So I think
we do have a game plan.It's about the candidate and how hard and
how much time are they willing toput into connecting with the voters. But
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I'm very hopeful our brightest days arein the horizon Goop, and I am
here to tell you that we aregoing to save Colorado sooner rather than later.
So it's going to take a littletime. Yeah, well we better
do it soon. Hey, Greg, congrats man, very very happy for
you, and I know you'll doa great job back there. I appreciate
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it. I really did thank youfor the time today. You bet they
take care of that, islect GreigLopez. Listen on this business of can
the GOP win against state wide andColorado? Absolutely easy? Absolutely not.
But boy, last night, youknow not all steps are created equal,
right, you know how some stepsare like little baby steps. Last step
was one of those giant leap forColorado kind steps to paraphrase Neil Armstrong.
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So yeah, that was an enormousstep in so many ways. But how
did they get there? You know? I'll throw out a couple of ideas
real quick. I mean, firstof all, you need the right leadership
at the party level. You needthe right people depicting who the Republicans in
Colorado really are. And I don'tcare if you're talking about, you know,
the most far right person or somebodyyou'd call establishment, or you're talking
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about some one of our great farmerranchers, or you're talking about somebody who's
a CEO in the city. Thereis and I know it's trite, right,
but the reality is there is somuch more in common. There is
so much unity on issues. Whatyou need and it is a tall mountain,
right, but what you need iswe need a shift. We need
a fundamental shift among voters of colorin Colorado, and that is attainable.
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You need issues, You need solutionsthat are doable and workable and credible.
And people have this reason to havehope and this reason to believe, and
this reason to elect somebody from aparty they normally wouldn't look at, because
yeah, that's going to make mylife better and at least it's fresh and
new and creative. And then,above all, you need the right candidate,
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right. I mean, people don'tcare what you know until they know
that you care. And you needa candidate who, by virtue of their
life, by virtue of the life, they have lived, you know,
is somebody who has shown their commitmentto the people they're asking to vote for
them. So you put all ofthat together, and then you've got a
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real shot. It doesn't guarantee anything, not in a state this blue,
but then you've got a real shot. The other thing, the other interesting
dynamic, though won't last forever,it could last a lot of years,
is you know, the Polish moneyin Colorado. You know, these last
few cycles have been distorted by thisenormous Polis money because the stuff that he
does in pursuing his own race liftsat a lot of other Democrats as well.
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You know, if that's out ofthe cycle, you know, does
that guarantee anything in particular, No, but it'd be helpful. Now Polis
may very well be around for along long time. I would expect Ryan
that if he doesn't land what hehopes for he hopes the Democrats, is
going to be president and will endup in a cabinet. I expect that
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he'll be knocking out either Hick andLooper or Bennett, you know, and
pushing them out of the way sohe can pursue one of those Senate seats.
But there are different passback. It'snot easy going to have to do
a lot of things right and veryfew things wrong. But man, last
night was such a big step forward. And I'm so you know, there
were so many great candidates in four, so many great candidates up there,
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but Lauren Bobert is a force ofnature and the fact that the left hates
her so much should be a reminderto everybody of why she is so valuable
to the conservative costs. And Ithink you look across the state and I'm
sure I hope Gabe Evans is goingto win, and we got to get
him on a bunch, Ryan.We got to get Gabe Evans on because
there is a real shot to takeeight away from the Democrats, and he's
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a very good candidate. But man, if that's where we end up,
we're gonna end up with Herd beatingFrish and Crank's gonna win in five.
And boy, if we can takeeight with Gabe Evans and then you have
Lauren Bobert, the unique Lauren Bobert, that force of nature in four.
That is such a high end effectiveteam right there, and it's that sort
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of thing that can help pave theway, I think to the GOP starting
to win statewide again. But youcome back to there's going to have to
be a shift in voters of color, and I believe that is very possible
and very doable in the state.Hey, when we come back, let's
focus on the debate tomorrow. Idon't think any of us have ever lived
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through anything like this. I thinkit's the most important debate of our lifetime.
I do want to respond to thistexture, who says Dan. You
keep saying we all know Biden won'tbe the nominee. Please explain how that
plays out. You never actually explainhow that would happen. Well, I
have, but I'm happy to againbecause that's one of the things that makes
tomorrow so amazing. Right, Bidenis not going to be their candidate he
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wanted tomorrow night. It's his swansong. Now do you think he'll actually
announce tomorrow night that he is choosingnot to pursue the nomination. You're on
the Dan Kapla show, and thiswe all know. Okay, this texture
says Dan. I agree with you. Greg Lopez is fantastic. I only
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wish you could have been our governor. Listen for those out there who's say,
wait, a second, we justneed to move beyond. We just
need to move beyond the Ron Hanksvoters, you know, and Greg Lopez
had lost to Heidi. We mayneed to move beyond the Greg Glopez voters.
That's madness. Wait a second,if unaffiliated's had not been allowed to
vote in those primaries, Ron Hankswins the US Senate primary. He is
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the GOP candidate for US Senate,not Joe Day, and Greg Lopez wins.
I believe, as I look atthe math, wins the GOP primary
for governor, and he's our candidate. No candidate, no GOP candidate,
has any chance to win state widein Colorado without the full throated support from
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those people who voted for Ron Hanksand the people who voted for Greg Lopez.
So the challenge right now for theColorado GOP and its candidates is how
do you how do you get fullthroated support from the folks who voted for
Ron Hanks and the folks who votedfor Greg in that last gubernatorial race.
Because if you can't get that,you're not going any now. Is that
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alone enough? Not even close?But that's just the reality of Colorado,
and Ryan I've never heard or seenthat disgust. But I think it's very
very clear when you go back andbreak down those numbers that if it had
been GOP only Ron Hanks is theSenate nominee. Now we're not talking this
cycle, talking the prior cycle.Ron is the Senate nominee and Greg is
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the gubernatorial nominee. That's why we'rein such disarray as a party Dan Republicans,
because there are so many fissures.There's not unity, there's not a
coalition building mentality of all corners ofthe party, and you really have to
build that big tent, especially ina state like Colorado, if you're going
to have any chance of winning.It can be done. It can be
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done in the ways I think wediscussed earlier. All I'm saying is last
night is a huge step forward becauseit's not like, Hey, last night
is the establishment's victory over the grassrootsor vice versa. Not at all.
Dave Williams does not, in myopinion, represent the grassroots Republican in Colorado.
That they are workers, not talkers, that they are fighters not haters.
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They don't pull the annex that DaveWilliams was pulling. I think to
get his own personal attention. No, he doesn't represent them. In my
humble opinion, they agree on alot of issues, but almost all Republicans
agree on those issues. The questionis what are your tactics? How do
you go out and fight? Youknow, are you a worker or a
talker? And is it about winningor is it about self glorification? So
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yeah, but you look at Coloradolast night, Hey, Lauren Bobert,
nobody kicked more behind than Lauren boberand that was a tremendous star studded field.
So she has outmaneuvered the Dems,right, and nobody's going to say
Lauren Bobert's establishment. She outmaneuvered theDems. She was going to lose in
three, and now she's going tobe if she wants congresswoman for life in
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four. A great Republican Jeff Hurdis going to win in three. Democrats
are going to burn fifteen to twentymillion on a losing Frish effort. I
mean, it's it is something tobehold. Getting back to this text,
Okay, Danie keeps saying we allknow Biden won't be the Numbinie, Please
explain how that plays out? Yes, very simply it's going to play out
before the end of the convention.It gets so messy for the Dems if
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it's post convention, and I'm notassuming he has one of those freeze up
moments we've seen so often recently.If he does tomorrow night, that then
yeah, then it ends very quickly. But assuming he doesn't, and I've
always been saying this for years,he's always going to beat expectations in a
situation like this. They've been restinghim now for how long? And then
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whatever they do to get him betterand he normally is they'll do for tomorrow
night. But but that's going tobe almost irrelevant because tomorrow night is about
Trump. But getting back to andTrump's going to do well tomorrow night,
and that's going to be what matters. But how they're going to do it,
Yeah, it's going to happen beforethe end of the convention, and
Biden is going to be the oneto do it. He's going to at
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least say that it was voluntary andmagnanimous on his part to pass the torch
to a new generation of blah blahs. It's going to be one of those
deals. Now, will it takepowers on the left coming in to threaten
him, to get him to dothat. Maybe, but one way or
the other, it's going to happen. It is going to happen. The
left is ruthless. The left isabout the politics of personal destruction. The
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left. No, Biden's a loser. I mean, look at today.
Nate Silver comes out five point thirtyeight that that is from the left,
not the right. And he putout his first presidential election model and he
said, this race is not atoss up. This is Donald Trump's race,
two thirds chance to win. Now, Silver wants Biden gone. Yeah,
CNN wants Biden gone. But Bidendoesn't want Biden gone, and neither
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does Jill. So might postulate foryou, then, Dan, what if
Joe Biden simply refuses to drop out, refuse? That would be such a
gift. It'd be such a giftto Trump and by extension, the rest
of the country, because this hasto be the starting point. Right.
As a practical matter, Joe Bidenis not functional now at anywhere near the
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level whether it's cognitively or physically necessaryto be president of the United States.
Can you picture him? I mean, don't do this. If your drive
and we close your eyes and Picturehim a month from now, Picture him
on October first. No, no, if Biden resists the threats and everything
else and insists on staying, he'sjust handing it to Trump. So let
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me put it this way. Ihave never more desperately wanted to be wrong.
I hope that Joe Biden is theirnominee right on through election day,
because nothing could make it easier forTrump, not even Kamala Harris, because
Biden will be so Biden will beso obviously non functional he is already.
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But by election day, and thenif people are voting on OMG, if
I vote for this ticket, I'mvoting for truly and non functional, seriously
impaired president to be followed by KamalaHarris. That would be a gift.
Anyway, Tomorrow we're going to devotethe show to the most important debate of
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our lifetime, anxious to get yourtake on what you want to see Trump
do not do. We'll have alot of expert input on that as well.
It's going to be an amazing dayand night. Thank you for your
time today. Happy birthday again,Kelly. Just a big old ray of
human sunshine makes every day better forus. Great job, Ryan join us
tomorrow on the Dan Kapla Show.
Were fighters not haters, and fighterswon last night. Fighters won last night
in Colorado. The Colorado GOP hada great night last night because it is
the rebirth of the Colorado GOP.I mean, look what happened across the
state. And then we'll get tothe news of the afternoon, the next
step in the ouster of Dave Williams'sparty chair. But look what happened last
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night. You had these very verystrong GOP primary candidates win, strong in
the sense that they're going to betremendous congressmen and women from Colorado. For
a long time, had Jeff Hearddown in three, Well you had Jeff
Crank in four. Okay, letme start over. Okay, you had
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Jeff Crank in five. You hadheard in three. And then on top
of that, you have Lauren Boebert'sbig win, and that's so beautiful because
she just outmaneuvers the left. Shewas going to lose in three. Now
the Republicans are going to win threewith herd against Frish, and then you
have Lauren Boeber, who's going tobe congresswoman for life from four. I
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mean, it's just it is sucha great night. But the message it
sends is no just a different typeof leadership from the Colorado GOP. So
very very positive night last night forthe Colorado GOP and then the call this
morning for the ouster of Dave Williams. This is official. Now I'm going
to read to you from the releasefrom Todd Watkins from the State Central Committee
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and then want to get your takeon it. Two Chairman Dave Williams CC
State Republican Executive Committee and Republican StateCentral Committee, pursuing to see RC bylaws
Article seven, Section D three.Attached are the signatures of over twenty five
percent of the Colorado Republican State CentralCommittee who hereby request that you call a
special meeting for the purpose of avote on the removal of chairmen of the
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State Republican Party. We request thatthe special meeting be held in person with
closed paper ballot voting, on aSaturday, and at an acceptable time and
place so all SEC members will beable to attend. Please respond within the
ten days prescribed by our bylaws tocall a special meeting no later than thirty
days of this utter. Sincerely,Todd Watkins, State Central Committee Member.
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He will join us at four ohsix tomorrow to start the show. So
just such a positive move forward forthe Colorado GOP. And even if Dave
Williams selfishly hangs on putting himself infront of these causes that we all care
about so much, he's lost allinfluence, right, He's lost his platform,
And so the Colorado GOP now willhave a chance to define itself properly
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and accurately reflect that the Colorado Republicansacross the spectrum eight five five for five
two five five the number because thosewho try to make out this and there
is obviously there's a divide between whatsome would call establishment and I think that's
too broad, and others would callgrassroots. You know that there is so
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much more in common and there isa way to unite the two. I
have it in my mind. I'dlike to know what you think that path
is eight five five for zero fiveA two five five text d an five
seven seven three nine. I teasethis before the break, want to deliver
on it now. A more proofthat I am right in predicting that Biden
will not be the nominee. JaredPolis a Jared Polis sighting surfaced on National
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TV today saying this there outspoken isagainst Israel, and in fact, Bowman's
completely blaming his loss on a pack, the pack in America that supports Israel
for his loss, as if henever did anything wrong. And he uses
the word that APEC spent millions ofdollars and they brainwashed the constituents of his
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district. Well, he does seemunusually obsessed with that topic. I think
the people of his district in Bronxand Westchester, just like the people in
Colorado, want their elected officials tofight for lower costs for a strong economy.
If you seem obsessed about issues that, of course people legitimately care about,
but they're not the kitchen table issuesthat are the most important to people,
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people will say, why are wesending this guy if all he's doing
is fighting about an overseas war andnot delivering on reducing costs and making our
lives easier, our health care lessexpenses. And the point of all that
is great, Boman lost, right, It's great. So many haters lost,
including here in Colorado Hernandez Epps onthe DEM side, you know,
it's beautiful to see people rejecting that. But the point here is that pol
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is surfaced and he's back on nationalTV, and he tweeted out on some
national issue the other day as well. The point is he's positioning. Just
like we talked about yesterday on theshow. You know, Newsome now moving
his family to Marine County out ofSacramento so his kids can have quote educational
continuity. The point is that theyknow Biden is not going to to be
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the nominee, and they're all positioning. They're all positioning to enter that race.
And those like Paulis know they're notgoing to be the nominee. But
Poulis is hoping, you know,one hundred million bucks and pretending to be
a moderate can position him to besomebody's VP, which isn't going to happen
either. So I think his realend game is a cabinet position. But
when you've got one hundred million tothrow around and you've been able to get
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the media to, you know,portray this con that you're some kind of
moderate, yeah, he's going tobe taken much more seriously than either Hickenlooper
or Bennett, who I accurately predictedwould would just fail obviously and miserably after
being protected in the Colorado media bubblefor so many years and Polis eventually,
Yeah, he's not going to bepresident or vice president. Might be able
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to buy his way into a cabinetposition. The problem for him is that
there's probably not going to be aDemocrat cabinet. Aightfi five for Z five
A two five to five the numbertext d A N five seven seven three
nine. So what do you think, Ryan? Do you think you think
at this point Dave Williams resigns,you think tries to hang on. I'll
try to hang on because I thinkhe's delusional to begin with, and delusions
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of grandeur are typically born out ofsomebody that becomes drunk with power, and
absolute power corrupts. Absolutely. Heis absolutely corrupted on every level. And
I can't see him suddenly legally corrupted. You're just talking about a corrupt Well
I don't know about that, Dan, Well, there's up. I don't
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know about that. You know theterm projection. I know you do.
And remember when he cast those aspersionsabout Christy Burton Brown and her mismanagement of
funds was terrific, Well, uh, what was funding his own campaign?
And where are those transactions? Andbut I don't think there's even any allegation
of any law violation. I don'tknow about law. That's what I'm talking
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about. Corruption comes in many forums, Dan, and I think Dave Williams
wears it well. And there's nodoubt about that. He has conflicts of
interest that in and of itself isa form of corruption. As a state
chair, then running in a race, then funding his own campaign, then
endorsing his own campaign from the stateparty chair in a primary something. It's
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been unprecedented. There's so many exampleshere, Dan, of the corruption of
Dave Williams, right, And Ijust want to make sure we're defining the
word corruption. Nobody is suggesting anythingillegal. What we're talking about is you
might call that moral corruption. Asmy own words, that nobody's suggesting anything
illegal. But you know what,our bar is not that low. You
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can't be the GOP party chair ifyou're going to undermine the GOP and if
you are going to essentially misrepresent thatthe entire GOP population in Colorado the way
that Dave has done that, andif you're going to hurt the causes and
help the left the way he has, No, you can't be the GOP
chair. So I just hope thathe steps aside, I have to assume
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that, given the fact this stepwas taken today by the twenty five percent
plus of the Central Committee who havesigned that petition, that Dave Williams assuming
has decided not to resign. Myguess is they would have checked with him
after last night, and if hehad agreed to resign, wouldn't be pursuing
this. But we'll ask mister Watkinshimself. He's going to join us at
four h six tomorrow. Text Dan, as Dave Logan might say, Williams
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has lost the locker room. Boy, I think that's true, and I'd
really love to hear from Dave's strongestsupporters, who every one of Dave's strongest
supporters I know are wonderful people andgreat conservatives, and that's why my conversation
with them is he doesn't represent youproperly. You're not like that. But
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and one example is Ryan, rememberwhen we were trying so hard to get
Dave on the show to just explainhimself, Okay, why did you do
these things that are causing such adivision in the party and undermining the causes
we all care about, and causesI know Dave cares about. When he
wouldn't come on. He wanted tosurrogate to come on. He wanted Ted
Harvey to come on. And I'mlike, wait a second, you're the
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GOP chair. How can you bein hiding. If you're going to be
the chair and claim to be sostrong and claim to be a leader,
you've got to be willing to stepup and explain something like that to the
people. But here's my point.You know Ted is a strong supporter of
Dave. Dave wanted Ted to bea surrogate on the show. How about
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having Ted as a surrogates party chair. Ted Harvey is a great person and
a great Conservative leader. Have TedHarvey be the party chair? Right,
forget being a surrogate on this show. Be a surrogate in the chairmanship.
But yeah, there needs to bea change there, one way or the
other. Though this party has movedon. It's defining itself in a proper
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way now. And that doesn't meanestablishment versus grassroots. It means people who
care about the right causes put inthe hard work. They're doers, not
talkers, and they approach things withthe level of morality and honesty and the
level of decency that we all asconservatives stand for you're on the dan CAPLA
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show. Getting your reaction to it. I think was an extraordinarily good night
for the Colorado GOP last night andfor the future of the state long term,
because not just you know, thatreally solid GOP candidates winning and the
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thorough rejection of this loniness of theleadership of Dave Williams and I put that
word in quotes, because how canyou be a leader if you won't come
on this show, stand up publiclyand just explain what you've been doing.
This show has been the friendliest placein the world for Republicans for almost the
last thirty years. But a rejectionof that nonsense. But on top of
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that, the quality of the candidateswho won, and the fact that these
are going to be really effective,highly respected Republican congress you know and congresswoman
for a long time to come,I think is magnificent. So so many
different steps forward last night for theColorado GUP, which leads to the bigger
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question of, Okay, what doyou think needs to happen to unite the
factions within the Colorado GOP. Thereare obviously some, just as there are
factions within the Democrat party, Andwhat do you think the Colorado GOP and
its candidates need to do to winstatewide in Colorado? Again? Are you
in the camp that just says that'simpossible. So we're talking about all that,
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we're also talking about the most importantdebate of our lifetime tomorrow night.
I'll get to some textures. DA N five seven seven three nine.
Bah bah bah bah Dan. Youguys are lying. Dave Williams did not
use GOP funds to do his campaign. Shame on both you and Ryan.
I think there's some misplaced shaming goingon there. I haven't accused Dave Williams
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of anything improper with money or anythingelse. What I've accused him of is
undermining the causes we all care about, and handing the left major victories and
misrepresenting who the people of the Republicansof Colorado are and we are not about
hate. We go out and wewin these big important issues by out working
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the other side, by persuading people, by winning in the trenches, by
winning everywhere we can. And that'swhat you see from the grassroots in Colorado.
From the so called establishment. Yousee at every level, you know,
but it's bomb throwers like Dave whofalsely portray us as a party as
haters who just hand the Left victories. That's what I'm critical of Dan.
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Trump needs to get away from concentratingon Biden. He needs to show he
realizes Biden's handlers are going to pulla switch and try to gain momentum by
Trump being caught off guard. Trumpjust needs to be Trump right that there's
no way you're ever going to changethat. His authenticity is a big part
of his appeal and his success.And my lord, who has ever stood
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on that debates stay age and hadmore accomplishments to talk about it has gone
into a debate with more amml letalone against an opponent who's at the polar
opposite end of the spectrum. Yeah. No, Trump just needs to be
Trump. And what I mean bythat he needs to be the A Trump
or the A minus Trump, andthe A Trump the A minus Trump is
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focused and focused on winning. AndI would put it the boardroom mentality.
Ryan. If president Trump, andwe've seen him before with this goes in
with that mentality that I would imaginehe entered into boardrooms with when he was
looking to do a big deal,gain an advantage, etc. He has
that kind of focus and he's thatversion of Trump, then yeah, he
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just has to be Trump and listen. If he has a bad night,
I don't expect that at all.But if he's if it's like his first
debate in twenty is first debate insixteen, if he has an off night,
it still doesn't mean he's going tolose because the Biden presidency has been
so bad and we don't even knowwho the Democrat candidate is going to be
yet, and if it's Kamala atthat point, it's virtually impossible to lose
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to Kamala Dan. One of myfavorite things about the election is how much
money the Democrats wasted on Hanks Man. I am with you on that,
and think about it. Think abouthow Congressoman Bobert has outmaneuvered the left.
It's like, you know, WileyCoyote time just dropping the anvil on his
head. She's the road runner,and look what she's done. She was
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going to lose in three, soshe outmaneuvers them by leaving three. I
know she's still the Congressoman there,but running in four where she can be
Congressoman for life now. And atthe same time, the Democrats are going
to waste fourteen to seventeen million onAdam frischdown in three, right, so
they're going to burn money they couldhave spent somewhere else. And you've got
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herd who's going to win down inthree. So Lauren Bobert outmaneuvering the left
like that, and we end upwith a great new Republican congressman in three,
we end up with a great newRepublican congres in five, we end
up with with Lauren Bolbert as congresswomanfor life from four. I mean that,
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and the fact she pulled that onthe left is a beautiful thing.
And listen, is she And I'vecriticized her when she deserves criticism, but
I praised her when she deserves praise, and that is often. That is
often that she deserves praise she doesnot get and she deserves praise for out
maneuvering the left. Here, allright, let's get to text, let's
get to phone calls and some ofthe sound of the day, Dan,
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I have to take slight issue withyour statement that Lauren can ever seet for
life. I feel most of ourills as a country are the result of
career politicians. Look at McConnell,supposedly our side. He's tainted, fresh
blood, fresh ideas and energy.That's Jenna and Springfield, Missouri. Gina,
thank you, Gina. It's nothow gene is usually spelled, is
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it you said that before? Yeah? Yeah, anyway, here's the point
when I say congresswoman for life.My point is just that she could be
if she wanted to be. I'dbe very surprised if she chooses to do
that, because she's very talented,she's very ambitious. I think in a
very positive way. She wants tohave maximum impact on these causes. I
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think she's very effective, particularly fora congress person early in their career,
on those causes, at least withher national platform. But my point is
that she is going to continue tobe so strong. If she wanted to
be, she could be there forlife. And listen, I'm on the
fresh blood thing. I think that'swhat the founders envisioned. There can be
some advantages though, to the folkswho are there long term, and I
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know our Texter takes a shot atMcConnell and I've disagreed with them obviously on
some things. But there should bea statue. There should be a statue
of Mitch McConnell, because think aboutwhat he did to preserve those seats on
the US Supreme Court for Neil Gorsichand Amy Coney Barrett. I'm not sure
anybody else could have done that.And his ability to save those two seats
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and have great conservative justices rather thanliberals legislating from the bench, that's a
monumental, generational, historic importance.And that was Mitch McConnell. So let's
give some credit where it's due.My only point being that that kind of
experience and longevity can also have somebenefits. Wow, So we have a
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lot to do the rest of theshow. Folks on the line, I
want to make sure you get enoughtime on air, so please hang in
there and we'll pop you after thebreak. We're going to do a quick
hit. We'll do a quick hitwith Greg Lopez, who has predicted one
and he's going to do a goodjob and all that. But we do
have so much to talk about andnow, really, man, I would
love to talk a lot about thedebate in this next half hour as well.
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It is just going to be,I think, without a doubt,
the most important debate of our lifetime, and the dynamics are so different.
Think about it. I mean,ponder this if you would, over the
next couple of minutes. Only oneof these candidates is actually going to be
their party's candidate election day. JoeBiden isn't. So think about what that
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does to the dynamic tomorrow night.And do you think he will use tomorrow
night to announce that he's not goingto be the nominee. You're on the
Dan Kapla Show. What a wonderfulday Kelly's birthday, of course, but
the rebirth of the Colorado GOP.I think last night will be looked back
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upon as the start of the newColorado GOP, which is going to be
a far better version, and Ithink one that's going to be much more
successful than expected. Everybody in theline, hang on. I will get
to you very shortly. Great texturesas well, because obviously we have the
fallout from last night, the formalmove today to depose Dave Williams as chair,
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and then of course the most importantdebate of our lifetime tomorrow. In
the meantime, let's go to GregLopez. We always enjoy having Greg on
the show, as you know,and as we predicted. It's no surprise
to anybody that Greg won last night, and he's a congressman elect in c
D four. You'll serve out therest of ken Buck's term. So,
Greg, congratulations, Nice to seein the winner's circle. Nice to see
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good things happen to nice people.And and so what comes next? I've
heard chatter on Ryan's show about somecontroversy over timing. Is Jenna Griswold going
to issue a letter that lets youtake off as sooner? What's all that
about? Well, Danny, thanksfor having me on your show. And
yeah, you know, it's aninteresting dynamic. It's not anything that's overly
(19:33):
concerning, but you know people areasking me, so hey, Greg,
when do you go to Washington,you know, when you get sworn in?
And you know, the response is, there's two options that the sticktest
they have right now here in Colorado. They can either wait to certify the
vote, which they have up untiltwenty one days to make a formal certification
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of the results. Or she cansend a letter to the speaker of a
House and let them know that Idid win the election and that nothing's going
to change between now and the certification, so that they can go ahead and
get me in and swear me swearme in, uh so that I can
be a part of Congress. Andso that's really the two options. So
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we're kind of on a holding pattern, just waiting for the Secretary of State
to determine what she's going to do. I know the Speaker's office is going
to reach out to her and youknow, just inquire, you know,
what is your what's her thought processin certifying the vote or sending the letter.
In California, the Secretor of Stateof California sent the letter after Vincent
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Fong. Vinfong won the special electionto replace Kevin McCarty. So you know
it has happened already where the Sectorof State says, hey, go ahead
and hey it's going to change,and I expect she'll do that, right.
I mean, it's and I'm nofan of Jennick Griswold, but it's
so obviously about the will of thepeople, the will of the people's It
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is obscene that any American would beunrepresented in Congress, and the people of
c D four have gone without representation, which is their birthright, for this
long. I expect Jenna Grisshold isgoing to do that very quickly. I
do too. I do too.Yeah, full expectation as you will.
So hopefully, you know, ifeverything goes well, it looks like I
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will be in Washington the week ofJuly eighth getting sworn in and start representing
the good people of CD four.Awesome. And let me ask you this
because I'm going to go to callerson this shortly as well. You have
all this perspective. You're in thisrace, You've run other races, You've
been around here a long time,You're in the trenches. Can the GOP
win again statewide? And what's itgoing to take? I think you can.
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Look. One of the important thingsthat I think the GOP needs to
recognized, and now is a perfectopportunity, is that we must embrace and
court the Hispanic community, the Hispanicvote. They are conservative with their values
and family and freedom. We gotto have candidates that are willing to go
out there and work hard, toengage with unaffiliated voters and just be president,
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you know. And I think Lawrenceshowed that coming from CD three to
CD four, she worked hard.She had to re establish relationships, you
know. I did that as well, and other candidates. So I think
we do have a game plan.It's about the candidate and how hard and
how much time are they willing toput into connecting with the voters. But
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I'm very hopeful our brightest days arein the horizon Goop, and I am
here to tell you that we aregoing to save Colorado sooner rather than later.
So it's going to take a littletime. Yeah, well we better
do it soon. Hey, Greg, congrats man, very very happy for
you, and I know you'll doa great job back there. I appreciate
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it. I really did thank youfor the time today. You bet they
take care of that, islect GreigLopez. Listen on this business of can
the GOP win against state wide andColorado? Absolutely easy? Absolutely not.
But boy, last night, youknow not all steps are created equal,
right, you know how some stepsare like little baby steps. Last step
was one of those giant leap forColorado kind steps to paraphrase Neil Armstrong.
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So yeah, that was an enormousstep in so many ways. But how
did they get there? You know? I'll throw out a couple of ideas
real quick. I mean, firstof all, you need the right leadership
at the party level. You needthe right people depicting who the Republicans in
Colorado really are. And I don'tcare if you're talking about, you know,
the most far right person or somebodyyou'd call establishment, or you're talking
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about some one of our great farmerranchers, or you're talking about somebody who's
a CEO in the city. Thereis and I know it's trite, right,
but the reality is there is somuch more in common. There is
so much unity on issues. Whatyou need and it is a tall mountain,
right, but what you need iswe need a shift. We need
a fundamental shift among voters of colorin Colorado, and that is attainable.
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You need issues, You need solutionsthat are doable and workable and credible.
And people have this reason to havehope and this reason to believe, and
this reason to elect somebody from aparty they normally wouldn't look at, because
yeah, that's going to make mylife better and at least it's fresh and
new and creative. And then,above all, you need the right candidate,
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right. I mean, people don'tcare what you know until they know
that you care. And you needa candidate who, by virtue of their
life, by virtue of the life, they have lived, you know,
is somebody who has shown their commitmentto the people they're asking to vote for
them. So you put all ofthat together, and then you've got a
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real shot. It doesn't guarantee anything, not in a state this blue,
but then you've got a real shot. The other thing, the other interesting
dynamic, though won't last forever,it could last a lot of years,
is you know, the Polish moneyin Colorado. You know, these last
few cycles have been distorted by thisenormous Polis money because the stuff that he
does in pursuing his own race liftsat a lot of other Democrats as well.
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You know, if that's out ofthe cycle, you know, does
that guarantee anything in particular, No, but it'd be helpful. Now Polis
may very well be around for along long time. I would expect Ryan
that if he doesn't land what hehopes for he hopes the Democrats, is
going to be president and will endup in a cabinet. I expect that
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he'll be knocking out either Hick andLooper or Bennett, you know, and
pushing them out of the way sohe can pursue one of those Senate seats.
But there are different passback. It'snot easy going to have to do
a lot of things right and veryfew things wrong. But man, last
night was such a big step forward. And I'm so you know, there
were so many great candidates in four, so many great candidates up there,
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but Lauren Bobert is a force ofnature and the fact that the left hates
her so much should be a reminderto everybody of why she is so valuable
to the conservative costs. And Ithink you look across the state and I'm
sure I hope Gabe Evans is goingto win, and we got to get
him on a bunch, Ryan.We got to get Gabe Evans on because
there is a real shot to takeeight away from the Democrats, and he's
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a very good candidate. But man, if that's where we end up,
we're gonna end up with Herd beatingFrish and Crank's gonna win in five.
And boy, if we can takeeight with Gabe Evans and then you have
Lauren Bobert, the unique Lauren Bobert, that force of nature in four.
That is such a high end effectiveteam right there, and it's that sort
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of thing that can help pave theway, I think to the GOP starting
to win statewide again. But youcome back to there's going to have to
be a shift in voters of color, and I believe that is very possible
and very doable in the state.Hey, when we come back, let's
focus on the debate tomorrow. Idon't think any of us have ever lived
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through anything like this. I thinkit's the most important debate of our lifetime.
I do want to respond to thistexture, who says Dan. You
keep saying we all know Biden won'tbe the nominee. Please explain how that
plays out. You never actually explainhow that would happen. Well, I
have, but I'm happy to againbecause that's one of the things that makes
tomorrow so amazing. Right, Bidenis not going to be their candidate he
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wanted tomorrow night. It's his swansong. Now do you think he'll actually
announce tomorrow night that he is choosingnot to pursue the nomination. You're on
the Dan Kapla show, and thiswe all know. Okay, this texture
says Dan. I agree with you. Greg Lopez is fantastic. I only
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wish you could have been our governor. Listen for those out there who's say,
wait, a second, we justneed to move beyond. We just
need to move beyond the Ron Hanksvoters, you know, and Greg Lopez
had lost to Heidi. We mayneed to move beyond the Greg Glopez voters.
That's madness. Wait a second,if unaffiliated's had not been allowed to
vote in those primaries, Ron Hankswins the US Senate primary. He is
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the GOP candidate for US Senate,not Joe Day, and Greg Lopez wins.
I believe, as I look atthe math, wins the GOP primary
for governor, and he's our candidate. No candidate, no GOP candidate,
has any chance to win state widein Colorado without the full throated support from
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those people who voted for Ron Hanksand the people who voted for Greg Lopez.
So the challenge right now for theColorado GOP and its candidates is how
do you how do you get fullthroated support from the folks who voted for
Ron Hanks and the folks who votedfor Greg in that last gubernatorial race.
Because if you can't get that,you're not going any now. Is that
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alone enough? Not even close?But that's just the reality of Colorado,
and Ryan I've never heard or seenthat disgust. But I think it's very
very clear when you go back andbreak down those numbers that if it had
been GOP only Ron Hanks is theSenate nominee. Now we're not talking this
cycle, talking the prior cycle.Ron is the Senate nominee and Greg is
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the gubernatorial nominee. That's why we'rein such disarray as a party Dan Republicans,
because there are so many fissures.There's not unity, there's not a
coalition building mentality of all corners ofthe party, and you really have to
build that big tent, especially ina state like Colorado, if you're going
to have any chance of winning.It can be done. It can be
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done in the ways I think wediscussed earlier. All I'm saying is last
night is a huge step forward becauseit's not like, Hey, last night
is the establishment's victory over the grassrootsor vice versa. Not at all.
Dave Williams does not, in myopinion, represent the grassroots Republican in Colorado.
That they are workers, not talkers, that they are fighters not haters.
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They don't pull the annex that DaveWilliams was pulling. I think to
get his own personal attention. No, he doesn't represent them. In my
humble opinion, they agree on alot of issues, but almost all Republicans
agree on those issues. The questionis what are your tactics? How do
you go out and fight? Youknow, are you a worker or a
talker? And is it about winningor is it about self glorification? So
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yeah, but you look at Coloradolast night, Hey, Lauren Bobert,
nobody kicked more behind than Lauren boberand that was a tremendous star studded field.
So she has outmaneuvered the Dems,right, and nobody's going to say
Lauren Bobert's establishment. She outmaneuvered theDems. She was going to lose in
three, and now she's going tobe if she wants congresswoman for life in
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four. A great Republican Jeff Hurdis going to win in three. Democrats
are going to burn fifteen to twentymillion on a losing Frish effort. I
mean, it's it is something tobehold. Getting back to this text,
Okay, Danie keeps saying we allknow Biden won't be the Numbinie, Please
explain how that plays out? Yes, very simply it's going to play out
before the end of the convention.It gets so messy for the Dems if
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it's post convention, and I'm notassuming he has one of those freeze up
moments we've seen so often recently.If he does tomorrow night, that then
yeah, then it ends very quickly. But assuming he doesn't, and I've
always been saying this for years,he's always going to beat expectations in a
situation like this. They've been restinghim now for how long? And then
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whatever they do to get him betterand he normally is they'll do for tomorrow
night. But but that's going tobe almost irrelevant because tomorrow night is about
Trump. But getting back to andTrump's going to do well tomorrow night,
and that's going to be what matters. But how they're going to do it,
Yeah, it's going to happen beforethe end of the convention, and
Biden is going to be the oneto do it. He's going to at
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least say that it was voluntary andmagnanimous on his part to pass the torch
to a new generation of blah blahs. It's going to be one of those
deals. Now, will it takepowers on the left coming in to threaten
him, to get him to dothat. Maybe, but one way or
the other, it's going to happen. It is going to happen. The
left is ruthless. The left isabout the politics of personal destruction. The
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left. No, Biden's a loser. I mean, look at today.
Nate Silver comes out five point thirtyeight that that is from the left,
not the right. And he putout his first presidential election model and he
said, this race is not atoss up. This is Donald Trump's race,
two thirds chance to win. Now, Silver wants Biden gone. Yeah,
CNN wants Biden gone. But Bidendoesn't want Biden gone, and neither
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does Jill. So might postulate foryou, then, Dan, what if
Joe Biden simply refuses to drop out, refuse? That would be such a
gift. It'd be such a giftto Trump and by extension, the rest
of the country, because this hasto be the starting point. Right.
As a practical matter, Joe Bidenis not functional now at anywhere near the
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level whether it's cognitively or physically necessaryto be president of the United States.
Can you picture him? I mean, don't do this. If your drive
and we close your eyes and Picturehim a month from now, Picture him
on October first. No, no, if Biden resists the threats and everything
else and insists on staying, he'sjust handing it to Trump. So let
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me put it this way. Ihave never more desperately wanted to be wrong.
I hope that Joe Biden is theirnominee right on through election day,
because nothing could make it easier forTrump, not even Kamala Harris, because
Biden will be so Biden will beso obviously non functional he is already.
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But by election day, and thenif people are voting on OMG, if
I vote for this ticket, I'mvoting for truly and non functional, seriously
impaired president to be followed by KamalaHarris. That would be a gift.
Anyway, Tomorrow we're going to devotethe show to the most important debate of
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our lifetime, anxious to get yourtake on what you want to see Trump
do not do. We'll have alot of expert input on that as well.
It's going to be an amazing dayand night. Thank you for your
time today. Happy birthday again,Kelly. Just a big old ray of
human sunshine makes every day better forus. Great job, Ryan join us
tomorrow on the Dan Kapla Show.
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