History in the making as Dems finally drive Joe Biden from his bid for re-election, who will take his place on the ticket

Following the details of Mark Halperin's reporting for Newsmax, details start to trickle in about how Joe Biden will exit the 2024 race. Dan and Dick Wadhams discuss.

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This is Dan Caplis, and welcometo today's online podcast edition of The Dan
Caplis Show. Please be sure togive us a five star rating if you'd
be so kind, and to subscribe, download and listen to the show every
single day on your favorite podcast platform. Dick Wadhams and now is really nobody
better to have here if you're newto the area. Dick has run a

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lot of big statewide campaigns governor,Senate, etc. Had some enormous victories
here and elsewhere, and has notbeen a fan of Diet voted for Trump
twice, but this time around nota fan, and I am, and
so it's just great to have Dickwith us for that perspective, because he's
actually won in the arena, andhe's won multiple times, really tough races.

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He's seen a lot, he's beento these conventions, and so to
get your perspective is invaluable, myfriend, particularly since I think everybody's in
agreement the most important speech of Trump'slife tonight, and because of his heroism
and character and courage and leadership overthe weekend after the assassination attempt, he
has now the best opportunity, thebest opportunity to impact of probably any speaker

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in our lifetime given a moment,right, I mean, I can't think
of anything that compares. So whatdo you think we're going to hear tonight?
Oh? I think I think hewill be magnanimous. I think he
will. We now hear that he'snot going to mention Biden's name. I
think that's really smart. I thinkhe could deliver a speech Dan that totally
changes is not only his political fortunes, but his life in general. I

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think his life was changed on Saturday, as anybody's would when you have a
bullet go by your head and youescape death by a millimeter. So I
think I think he will rise tothe occasion tonight and can't wait to watch
it. And the opportunity is almostunlimited, you know, because you can't
prepare for what he face said.Obviously, No, you can't fake it.

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And it was heroism on a grandAmerican scale the way he handled that,
and people could see that, evenas detractors. So it seems to
me he has the opportunity now tosay these things that ring very true.
And he's already said God saved meand it's changed me. And so tonight
he gets to expound in what waysand how that will affect this nation.

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We were talking before the break asa caller was making some really smart comments.
It occurred to me, Trump isgoing to say tonight, I forgive.
And I think he's going to say, tonight, you know all the
unfair stuff that's been directed to him. You know, we've stood up to
it, We've overcome it. Iforgive. It's time to focus on the

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future, the best interest in thecountry. It's time for national forgiveness and
in national unity. I think we'regoing to have a forgiveness theme, not
the entire speech because it's going tobe over now, right right, but
we're gonna have a little part ofthat. We're gonna have a little part
of that that forgiveness. Now,if you just joined us, you listen
to the show. So you've knownfor almost two years now that Biden would
not be their nominee. But nowit's just a matter of ours, probably

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before it's official. So Dick,your take on who the nominee is going
to be in the process, Well, there's a poll that just came out
that and I wonder if this wasspecially timed because it shows that it's a
poll by a Democratic firm, BlueLabs Analytics. The show that Senator Mark

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Kelly of Arizona, Maryland, GovernorWes Moore, Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro,
and Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer all outperformHarris, and it had the head against
Trump real quick. That there's abrand new updating in real time election betting
odds on the markets overseas as weknow. And I'll just go really quick

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through the order. Who's going tobe the nominee? The percentage chance rfk
Junior zero point three percent, PeteBudajed zero point nine, Hillary In one
point six, Gavin Newsom four pointtwo percent, Michelle Obama five point zero
percent, Gretchen Whitmer five point one. Biden has dropped thirty plus points,

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but he's at twenty one point twoand Kamala Harris is at sixty one point
two percent, Which goes to mynext question for Dick, which is process.
Let me add on the polling asurvey USA that just came out.
I believe within the last couple ofhours they were in the field before and
after the assassination attempt, and theysay there was a nine point swing in
Trump's favor after the assassination attempt.Wow. That in their National top Line

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survey, which we all know isrelatively meaningless. Trump was trailing Biden until
the assassination attempt, and then therewas a nine point swing in his favor
and in they're polling guys, theonly Democrat now, while I should say,
the Democrat faring best against Biden isMichelle Obama. No surprise, no
surprise. The Democrats have to createsome kind of a process between now and

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the convention in August, Dan,because you can't just say, okay,
we're just going to alwa, showit to the convention and take some votes
to see who wins. There's gotto be you've got to give these delegates
to the ability to gauge the strengthsand weaknesses of these potential candidates. And
I don't know if that would bea series of debates or I mean,

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there almost has to be. Youcan't have just some free for all of
the convention, as riveting as thatwould be. But so they've got to
come up with a process very quickly. Spoiler alert, I know what the
process is. Okay, it's BarackObama. I mean this is all going
to be wired behind the scenes.They're going to decide who the nominee is

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going to be. And if it'snot going to be Harris, they will
they will find a way to convinceher to quote voluntarily step aside. Right,
quick question interject for you guys boththough, and that is what you
just cited. Dan is so seismicand just wait until Trump gives a speech
today. If it's what we thinkit's going to be with that kind of
swing, yeah, this is likejumping into shark infested waters. What candidate

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Dick would want to do this ratherthan just wait for twenty twenty eight At
this point. The thing about itis Ryan, is that the nomination is
still worth something because anybody who wouldtake the nomination and even and even go
on and lose would be the frontrunner for twenty twenty eight. I mean,
because they're doing you know, they'redoing the party goodwill and I mean

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you know they're they're they're they're takingone for the team. So the nomination
is still worth something even if theylose. Well, and I think who's
willing to step up depends upon Trump'sspeech tonight. Yes, and if his
speech is as I expect it willbe a ten. I think fewer people
are willing to get in good pointgood point, And of course we really

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we don't have any numbers yet postassassination attempt, or certainly post convention,
and that'll come next week and andthen post speech is post speech tonight too,
he did, don't you think?And I don't want to get won
key, but you've actually won bigraces with Trump. Isn't there a point
at which only so many people aregoing to be willing to tell Apolster they're

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supporting him? And his support isgoing to go well beyond that, because
if we don't see a big movein the polls, and that survey USA
showed a nine point swing in hisfavor after the assassination attempt, if we
don't see that kind of swing,to me, that would so defy common
sense and logic that I'd say,you just can't believe those But remember,
in today's world, Dan, it'snot going to be a ten point swing

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or twenty point swing, but athree point swing, a four point swing
that's significant, especially swing states,because guys, doesn't the Emerson polling today
have it about tied at the top. But it is tump Trump winning every
swing states, and some of themby a significant margin. Virginia, by
the way, Trump hopped two.Yeah, and Texter says, any chance

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for a Harris Kennedy ticket. No, I don't think democrats Kennedy. I
love people thinking outside the box.Interesting question. Yeah, Dan, I
really wish you'd get off the MichelleObama line and honestly, with her lack
of executive experience, et cetera.Thank you. You seem infatuated with the
idea, Gary, I am infatuated. I'm infatuated twenty four hours a day.

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I'm infatuated with winning and saving thecountry. And I'm here to tell
you forty years as a trial lawyer. And you know this from everyday life,
Dick. You know it better thananybody. You've won races. If
you want to win, you betterbe able to spot your strongest possible opponent
and their strongest possible arguments, andyou better prepare to defeat them. Yep,
because denial is not just a riverin Egypt, and you don't want

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to drown in denial. In fact, you've got to be able to offset
their strengths and right, yeah,and that's what So you got to start
with the best they have, rightles toorally should be a terrible president.
Right, Yeah, So as wehit this break and then we'll come back
and open it up eight five tofive four zero five eight two five five,
assuming Michelle Obama out, which Democratticket would you fear the most?

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Oh, like we said earlier,Shapiro, Whitmer, Pennsylvania, Michigan.
Whitmer's very popular in Michigan. Shapirois in Pennsylvania. He conducted himself so
well in the aftermath of that attempton Saturday. He really did. And
I got to tell you that wouldbe a powerful ticket. And then one

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we come by or another, Iwant to talk to Dick and everybody in
lines, et cetera about no matterhow strong the dem ticket is other than
Michelle Obama, because people know herfrom eight years, how could that DEM
ticket win when voters would be saying, yeah, I kind of like them,
but I've only got a few weeksto decide whether they'd be a good
president. That's not enough time.So back in a flash, You're on

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the Dan Kepler Show. And nowback to the Dan Kapla Show podcast train.
Our chief wasashing correspondent John, Carland John, we have to begin
with President Biden. Boy, thewalls are closing in on him. We
just had to play there, right, because how many years do we have
of the walls are closing in onThe walls are closing in our Trump.
He's a Trader Russia collusion. Thewalls are closing in on Trump. And

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now to here Stephanoppolos say, thewalls are closing in on Biden. So
as we go to the phone linestick that's my big takeaway today And as
I watch this, to me,it's almost biblical in scope and scale and
importance. And I start with thepersonal belief I can't know for sure obviously
that there was divine intervention in savingPresident Trump on Saturday. And now you

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watch this moment where the same weeklast week that Trump was supposed to very
very wrongfully suffer the ultimate humiliation ofbeing sentenced to jail in a New York
state courtroom with an administration that hadso undermined and abused the rule of law
to wrongfully prosecute him. What happens, You know, Trump ends up emerging

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a national hero. At the endof the week, Biden is crumbling before
our eyes and his candidates. Heis about ten but effectively his presidency even
though he'll hang on to power.And Trump is ascendant, and the left
is descendant and crumbling. And notonly that, Dick, but the way
it's unfolding, like this convention,anybody watching, and we've heard so much
of it from the left right,has been so masterful, it's been so

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competent, it's been so well done. It just has to say to the
country between the lines, Hey,we're going to do the same thing with
the country and we did before.So to me, I think the left
is being revealed for what it reallyis. And Donald Trump is ascendant,
the GOP is acendant, and Ithink that's great for America long beyond election

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day. Yeah. Yeah, Andthe convention, as I said earlier,
Dan, you have not heard theconstant harping about stolen elections. You've not
heard defense of the people who attackthe Capitol. This is this convention has
been focused on issues. They've beenfocused on the on the tragic event that
the Saturday. It's been focused onthe right thing that the nation cares about.

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And if that will continue tonight andafter this convention, it will totally
change the dynamics of this election,regardless of who the Democrats nominate. And
I can't. I mean that hasbeen the only thing holding Trump back since
he lost the election. It hasbeen stolen election stuff. Yes, it

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turns a lot of people on inthe Republican Party, but it turns a
lot of people off, and thoseare the people who defeated him four years
ago. He has a chance toget them back or tonight well, and
I think, Dick, it goesback to Saturday, because, as you've
said in others, you can't preparefor that. You can't script it,
you can't fake it. That wasa level of courage, that was a

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level of poise, That was alevel of physical strength and bravery and leadership
that I think has given a wholelot of Americans a different view of President
Trump. It doesn't automatically wash awayanything they didn't like before, but it's
shown them a positive way beyond anythingthey thought. And it set him up
tonight, you know, for fora new approach, and he said he's

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going to take a new approach.Dean and Arvada, You're on the Dan
Kapla Show with Dick Wadhams. Welcome, Hey, Dean, Dean's very thoughtful.
It's kind of a quiet type,but but we we like people who
think it through Dean. We'll getback to you. Greeley, Colorado.
Hello, Michael, living the dreamgood. Absolutely. I kind of think

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maybe you guys are might be overlookingsomething. Gavin Newson made several visits to
the White House when in Biden's absenceduring the middle of his term, and
I think you should have a teamof blows, Shift and Schumer that might
push for Newsom to do it tohelp build the brand that Dick Wadhams was

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saying would benefit the next person whowould possibly lose the cycle. And I
think Newsom might be the one theywant to put for you mean to waste
them, get him out of theway for twenty eight or because they think
he can win. Okay, interesting, Thanks man, Hey, Mike,
appreciate that. What do you thinkyou know? It's interesting, Dan,
And this is an oversight on mypart. I have not brought up to

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Gavin Newsom's Newsom's name, so Iappreciate the caller mentioning that I don't think
there's a lot of sentiment in theDemocratic Party for Gavin Newsom. I think
that they understand, they will understandthey've got to go to one of those
Midwestern governors if they have a shotat all of winning this thing. That
the whole game, the whole issueof this election are three states, Michigan,

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Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania. And Idon't think Gavin Newsom doesn't do you
any good in those three states.Just need's probably one of them, right,
exactly, No, he is,Yeah, you're right. I think
Trump only needs to take one ofthose. Biden would have meant he would
have had to take all three,and the congressional district in Nebraska could for
that one, that one point thatwon the vote. Jim and Wellington,

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you're on the Dan Capla show.Hey, thanks on a little perspective on
you know, you're talking about DonaldTrump and near death experience, how it
changes him and stuff. And Ican tell And the reason I say this
is I had almost a near deathexperiment experience in a auto traffic accident where

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I was doing sixty five miles anhour down the state highway. Someone rolled
the stop sign, tried to youknow, cross the intersection, and I
boned him at roughly sixty five,you know, sixty miles an hour,
and so what it does to you. And what I noticed Monday is if
you noticed when he was behind inthe back and he started to come out,

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how he kind of took a deepbreath. He would you get it?
You get a not in near yourthroat, you take a deep breath
HESPAFB, you know. And hehad a bout of it right then coming
out to face the crowd public afterbeing shot. Wow, and you will
get that sensation because it wasn't toobad when I started driving again, but

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anytime I go past that intersection,that happens to me. Wow, Jim,
what an interest nobody's raised that before. Thank you, Jim, and
I hope you're doing well with yours. Very insightful because what and I don't
want to go all doctor here,but in my law practice, you know,
we're dealing with PTSD all the time. We're presenting it in court because
it's a part of these horrific crashes, et cetera. And what I've learned

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about PTSD and really top experts comein Dick and explain it to Jerry's and
I know you know this is true, is PTSD is a physical injury.
I mean there is emotional psychological aswell, but it's involuntary. When you
have a high trauma event, noteverybody, but plenty of people. It
affects your brain in a very physicalway. So it's not like if you

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have enough willpower or character you canovercome it. It affects your brain in
a physical way. So you haveto wonder if if that's a factor.
Yeah, that's very insightful, andyou know, thinking what the callers said
about when Biden or when Trump cameinto the convention hall, he did kind
of hesitate, and maybe that wasjust because for whatever reason, but he

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did do that right, And youknow, again, I'm no time,
but what causes me to think thatit's far less likely that he would actually
have it or have a serious caseis the way he responded to meeting Yea
and the way he was able todo everything that he did and heroically and
bravely and get up and rally thecrowd. So I wouldn't think for a

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second there's any kind of worrisome issuethere. But it's an interesting question.
The caller raised lines are jam whenwe come back, most important speech of
Trump's life, what do you wantto hear him say? We know he's
going to say that God says himand it's changed him. What do you
think he should say and will sayabout how you're on the Dan Kapla Show.
You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Showpodcast. Wow, that's uh Paul

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Cogan's intra music. You say,we expect you're some of that tonight.
Yeah, we're hoping, Hulk Hoganjust real quick, Dan, he was
out with Brett bar which didn't havethat on my Bengo card. Brett Bhar
interviewing Hulk Cogan on his special reporton Fox News. But Hulkster's a very
bright guy, great businessman. Hecalled Donald Trump his hero. He's never

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been involved in politics prior to this. But after the shooting on Saturday,
much like we saw Elon Musk say, no, I'm endorsing him, I'm
giving him all the money, Hulk'slike, I have to talk right now,
and I think you're going to bein store for a very good speech.
Yeah. And I think by multipleswe've had the best GOP convention ever.
And I'm sure as good as they'vebeen, as great as they've been
throughout the week, they've got thisthing scripted to the tea tonight and President

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Trump. What time do you thinkhe'll take the stage? You think it'll
end? I know he's there whereseeing reports he's arrived probably around ten pm
Eastern seven in the Pacific, sohe's in prime time and every time zone.
Dicky, having been involved in alot of these conventions, what's what's
your guess? Yeah, no,I think that's right prime time, I
guess I always forget how prime timein the on the East Coast is much

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later than primetime here. It's anhour later. The news comes out at
eleven back there, So right nowtonight, do you think they're geared more
to the East Coast? Are theygeared more to particular swing states? Well?
Remember I mean Michigan is the easterndime zone, Pennsylvania's eastern time zone,
Okay, and Wisconsin. I thinkthey're all or if not, there's

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one of them might be central,but anyway that fits in perfectly ten o'clock
start. I think Ryan's right ifyou just joined us obviously now and you've
known on the show for about ayear and a half that that Biden will
not be the nominee, but it'snow very very very close. So we
spend a lot of time talking aboutwho the dam nominee is likely to be,
what that process will look like.Dick, there's some new reporting on

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that, and it's from credible people, but we don't know if it's accurate.
And the latest reporting is that Bidenwill step down by Sunday and then
there will be a mini primary andthat it will be open, and that
Biden won't endorse. Now at thesame time, you got the New York
Times reporting that Biden is going toendorse Harris. But which approach do you

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think is best for the Democrats?And let's hope they do the opposite?
Oh if I were the Democrats,And like I said, Dan, I
think that the nation will be fixatedon this. That's why I don't diminish
the potential of Democrats getting back inthis game if Biden pulls out, because
the nation will be riveted by this. All of a sudden, there's this

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new process and the competition to bethe nominee a new person. Now,
Kamala Harris is not a new person, but these other names we've talked about,
the nation really doesn't know them,and I don't think they have I
do not think that it's too latefor them to get back in this sport.
Well, and you're saying what I'vebeen saying all along. But here's

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why I see it differently now.I mean all along, I've been saying
that it makes total sense. ButI think I am assuming that Trump's speech
tonight is going to be a tenand that Trump tonight is going to gain
a big swath of support, orat least neutralize a big swath of opposition
that he's had in the past.And I think he's going to get up

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there and he's going to talk abouthow God saved him, which I believe
is true, and about how hehas changed as a person. I think
he's going to talk about forgiveness,and I think he's going to forgive the
people who have done him wrong andtalk about the focus now is national unity.
And I think it's going to bea magnificent speech that undermines a significant

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part of the opposition to him andpaves the way not only for a big
win, but for a very successfulsecond term. It could. It's up
to him to hit those themes,to hit that to hit that tone tonight,
and I think he can do it. Watching him this week, he

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does look like a different person.But no, this convention ends tonight and
it will end on a high note, I believe. But tomorrow morning,
all eyes will be on Joe Bidenand the Democratic Party and their process.
And it's going to be like thatfor thirty days until the convention next month.
And as we go back to thephone line, starting with Jennifer and

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Denver, I'll bet you that Trumpis so good tonight it scares some of
these Democrats out of the race andthey just start looking at twenty eight.
Jennifer, you're with Dan Caplis andDick Wadhams. Welcome. I love it.
It's the Dan and Dick show.Well, I have two questions and
an observation, but I'll give youmy two questions. First, why that

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Biden gets in again out of therace or not? Dick, do you
think Colorado could become a swing state? And then my second question is with
all this raderah immunity that's being seenat the convention, does Dave Williams buy
into it? Your first question?We talked earlier a little bit about this.

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I don't I don't think Donald Trumpcan carry Colorado. I do think
he can severely cut the margin fromfourteen points that he lost by four years
ago, and that would be significant. He doesn't need Colorado to win this
election, first of all. Imean, that's just the brutal reality,
but it is terribly important if hecould, If he could cut that margin
to mid single digits, it wouldit would make a bunch of state legislative

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candidates across the state all of asudden much more competitive and put them in
a position to win, which wouldbe a big deal. Ball down back,
So it helps down Ball and ofcourse the only thing, and it
would help Gabe Evans and the eighthcan Eshal District. Yeah, it was
I think Jeff Hurd is going towin in the third and Jeff cranks the
shoe in in the fifth, andso I think that it would have it

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could have significant impact on the Republicansin other races in Colorado, which which
that would be amazing, and itwould put it would put the Colorado Republican
Party back on some pathway to relevancyagain. In terms of Dave Williams,
he is a liability to this party, and but I also think he's becoming

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so irrelevant that it does He's alreadydone all the damage he can maybe he'll
find a new way to do damage. Uh, and maybe he'll be recalled.
I don't care if he is ornot anymore that that guy is uh
is so has been so discredited byhis behavior and by his corruption that the
verdict is in on him. SoJennifer appreciates down here, Oh please go

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ahead. Well, here's my oneobservation. I want you to to ponder.
It's almost a riddle. But haveyou noticed that the yard signs that
will be with the Trump campaign andthey're holding them up at the at the
convention. All they have to dois replace a pe with a VA.

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Right now, I will let youto ponder that I'm pondering. Thank you.
That is almost as deep as Ryan'sDan You're so right, You're wrong.
Yeah, yeah, that's like Biden'sfallback, which is in the middle
of a sentence anyway, anyway,anyway, Yeah A five five four zero
five eight two five five text dA N five seven seven three nine Dick.

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I think that, And that's whyI describe this as almost biblical in
scope. What's going on right nowwith Trump and the GOP now soaring and
ascendant in so many tangible ways,and the Dems crumbling before our eyes and
the truth of the modern left beingrevealed. It's, in my mind kind
of a biblical thing unfolding. ButI think there's going to be so much

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positivity and Trump's speech tonight, ifit's everything I expect ten plus, that
a lot of this other negativity willget washed away. And you use the
word irrelevant in that one context,but I think a lot of that will
kind of get washed away as asall of this success happens. And I
think it'll be easier for the ColoradoGOP to start winning again. No,
no, it puts it. Ijust say it puts it on the pathway

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irrelevancy again. And and and honestly, Dan, if he could keep that
margin close in Colorado and allow somesome winning the eighth district with Gabe,
that would be huge. It wouldbeg and then Lauren wins by twenty instead
of ten. I mean there's RobinCarns in that bra Apple County district.
And I mean there are two Senatedistricts on the western slope. I could

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go through them. They're all they'reall really winnable. And when we come
back, treated's open lines have somehot sound as well the latest on when
Biden is going to get out andhow. But but again, keep this
in mind during the break and envisiona speech tonight from Trump where he says
what he's prom us to say,he's a changed man, and a speech
that change changes the perception of Americato the point where his second term now

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way beyond winning the election, wherehis second term is a great success.
What would that look like? You'reon the Dan Kapla Show and now back
to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast,Welcome to history. That's what we're living
through right now in so many differentways, as you know, but part
of it is and Mark Halprin reportingthat Biden will likely announce Sunday in a

(27:29):
speech to the nation that he's steppingdown and that there will be an open
dem primary convention, probably Kamala Harrison, two or three other candidates. I
mean, this is all unfolding prettyquickly. But as you've known for a
year and a half on the show, he would not be the nominee.
But how they handle it now andwhether they have it wired to get Kamala
out of the way before that wholeprocess even starts. But what about vps

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and Dick, I want to workin these cars, Dean and Nerveta has
been so patient. Let's start thereand we can ask Diana's take as well
on who. Let's say it's KamalaHarris, who her VP would likely be.
Dean, Welcome to the Dan kaplashow with Dick Wadhams in the house
is D and D and don't forgetsuper Oh yeah, how could you feel

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it? I agree with I agreewith Ryan. I mean, there's no
way that they're gonna take cand toHarris out of the race. I mean,
she's got all the delegates, allthe money. I mean, it's
a no braider. She's got nosorry Dan, she's got no money and
no delicate ll if she did well. No, she's got the money,

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but no delegate, and they're goingto give them to her. Remember Dan,
she can she can spend the moneythat Biden Harris campaign is raised.
Dick, you know these things betterthan I do. But the Wall Street
journal piece said she only gets thatmoney after they're formally nominated. Well,
okay, okay, yeah, you'reright. Yeah no, no, that's
what I meant. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, she's
gonna take the money they're gonna writethis here off there all. They can't

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be trumped. So what they're goingto try to do is get the down
ballance on these things instead of havetrumg just run the show on Satan in
the House, they're going to writethe president thing off. They already know
they can't beat him. They're goingto try to save the House in the
sense Dean appreciate the call. That'sa good call. If it is Kamalin.
I think that's a big if atthis point, VP, who's your

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VP? I think she goes withWell, for it would have to be
somebody mid term in whatever office theyhold, and most of these governors are
midterm, so I think she couldtake an Andrew Brush here we talked about
in Kentucky, kind of a moderateeven the right of center Democrat. That's
why he survived in Kentucky. Shapirowould have a no, there would be
no downside for Shapiro to take itbecause he would be, you know,

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taking one for the team to doit. So it will be one of
them. Aren't you overlooking somebody fromclose to home? King Jared. I'm
sure Jared will make a play withus for it. I'm not sure sure
that he would add too much tothe ticket thing. Yeah no. And
this is always so fun to watch, right when you get these Colorado Democrats

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who have lived in this protective bubbleand then they venture outside that bubbling.
Oh my god, no, no, they won't lie for me, they
won't cover for me. Yeah no, that's that's going nowhere. Text or
Dan, what about Hakeem Jefferies orHillary? Yeah, she wants it.
Oh, wouldn't you know that Hillarywould take it in a heartbeat, came
Jeffery. I don't think so.I think he loves he wants to be

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Speaker of the House. Brian andArvada, you're under Dan Kapla, so
welcome. I think tones Trump's changedwith all this happening, Dan, and
I think his tone is going tobe toned down a little bit. But
so everyone's going to be watching.The whole world is going to be watching.
So it's gonna I'm glad to herealong to the ride. My question

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for you and for Dick is,you know, and lead Colorado out of
the wilderness. Who can lead theGOP because you know, we gave the
keys to Priscilla o' ron and KBBand they they failed miserably, and now
you don't like Dave Williams tone,so any suggestions of who could help us
out? Well, I disagree withthe premise that KBB failed. I disagree

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with that premise because you look atwhere Colorado was at when she took over.
And so who do you think,Brent, Let's say that somebody else
had that job instead of KBB atthe time, how's the outcome different and
why? And I don't know,I know that all we talk about is

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how Dave Williams is a failure,but the people before him? So what
what? What? Who are wesuggesting to help us out? Because we
can talk all day on who weshouldn't back or who's bad for us,
but we never talked about who's goodfor us? Because all by all stretch
of the magic, but all ofmeasurements, KBB and Priscilla Ron failed.

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They got freud. Okay, NowI asked you, I asked you a
fair direct question. I'll give youone more chance. I don't mean that
in a mean way, but gaveyou a chance to answer it. Okay,
who would have done a better job? And okay, all right,
Brian, and I answered it?And what I said was very concretely,
I don't view that as a failurebecause I think given the state Colorado is

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in, nobody could have done better. I think what's happened afterwards is a
failure because it has done great harmto the image of the GOP in Colorado
and made the road back tougher.My focus today and what I've been talking
about is the positive, the greatthings happening at this convention, President Trump
ascending, the Democrats crumbling. That'swhat I'm focused on, because there's I

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think, Dick and You've won thesebig races here and elsewhere. I think
there's a spillover effect into Colorado withall of this success that's happening with the
national GOP. There's no doubt,and whether the caller wants to admit it
or not, KBB was a verygood state chairman and she and what Dave

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Williams has tried to do to assassinateher character for these false charges of financial
mismanagement is disgusting and is shameful.The problem with the Colorado Republican Party for
the last three election cycles, andI know a lot of people don't want
to hear it, but Donald Trump'sapproval rating in Colorado was down in the
mid thirties. Disapproval rating was inthe mid to high fifties. You cannot

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have somebody at the top of theticket with those kind of numbers and not
dragged down Republicans in the state.So you don't want to acknowledge that I've
heard you on the radio before,you don't know what you're talking about.
And again in the last minute ortwo of the show, as we've both
talked about throughout the show today,there are great things happening for the GOP

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right now. Nationally, we haveTrump ascending after his courage and heroism and
great leadership. Over the weekend,we have the left crumbling before our eyes.
Biden will be out probably by Sunday. I expect We're going to hear
the best speech of Trump's life tonight, and I think it'll be a speech
that helps him and the GOP,including down ballot, tremendously. So I

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think there's a lot to look forwardto. And Dick, I hope you
can come in at least once aweek and talk this week dal because you've
been in the arena, You've foughtthese fights, You've won at a very
high level. It's great to haveyour perspective. Boy, Hey, welcome
to history right. Cannot wait fortonight. We'll break it all down tomorrow.
Let's say we'll celebrate it tomorrow.Ryan, tremendous job behind the glass

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is always Kelly. Thank you foryour constant aura of positivity. Join us
tomorrow on The Dan Kapla Show