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July 19, 2024 34 mins
Ryan finishes out the show and evaluates two of the biggest billionaires in America and their impact on the 2024 election - Mark Zuckerberg abandons Biden and takes his Zuckerbucks with him, while Elon Musk is 'all-in' on funding PACs to support Trump.

Also, the latest reporting on Biden's potential exit from the campaign from Mark Halperin's post on X.
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This is Dan Capless and welcome totoday's online podcast edition of The Dan Caplis
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she's such a big supporter of mine, bec great friend of mine, and
she was joining me all week herein Denver with live coverage from Milwaukee and
the RNC. Want to get yourthoughts as we put a cap on the
Republican National Convention. I think there'sa general consensus which I would agree with,
that it's the best convention I've everseen for maybe either party, but

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certainly the Republicans and the most unifiedI've seen the Republican Party in forty years
since Ronald Reagan nineteen eighty four,and I believe that holds up for the
Democrats. Van Jones you might haveheard this quote and there's a couple of
really interesting sound bites that Dan.He was focusing on the Mark Zuckerberg one,
which I think is astounding. Thinkabout the money switch here, right,

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just two names. I'm going tobring up Mark Zuckerberg, Elon Musk
last time around. I think Idon't know for sure, but Elon may
have voted for Biden, Kelly sayingyes, Zuckerberg went even further. The
Zuckerbucks, the scandal, the chasingof ballots, the harvesting, he was
invested, He was all in onthat, the shadow banding. Don't forget

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this part. Facebook, he's theCEO. He oversaw that the silencing of
the Hunter Biden laptop story. Zuckerbergand Facebook were involved in that. Now,
he might have delegated that responsibility,but if you remember, Mark Zuckerberg
went on Joe Rogan's podcast and admittedthe FBI hoodwinked him and said, you

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know it helps serve your country,mister Zuckerberg, we need your help in
silencing the story because we feel there'ssomething coming. There's kind of all the
markings of Russian disinformation because they knewthe laptop was there, they had it.
They had it, the FBI did, and they wanted to bury it.
So, you know, none thewiser, Mark Zuckerberg, he's not

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supposed to know. Okay, we'llbe on the lookout for something like that.
And lo and behold, here comesthe Hunter Biden laptop story from the
New York Post and Miranda Divine andthey silence it. They squelched it,
and there were so many voters thatwere pulled afterward, they said, hey,
if I had known about this HunterBiden laptop, and that was real.
I would not have voted for JoeBiden, and I'm pretty sure Donald
Trump would have won. That's howin deep Mark Zuckerberg was. So he

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goes from that and just one moretime, if you're just joining us,
because I know a lot of youget out of work at five and it's
a Friday, and you know it'sfive o'clock somewhere, and that's here right
now. Here's what Zuckerberg said,I'll play the whole thing. I've done
some stuff personally in the past.I'm not planning on doing that this time.
And that includes, you know,not endorsing either of the candidates.
Now, look, I mean there'sobviously a lot of crazy stuff going on

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in the world. I mean thehistoric events over the last like over the
weekend, and I mean a personalnote, it's yeah, I mean seeing
Donald Trump get get up after gettingshot in the face and pump his fist
in the air with the American flagis one of the most badass things I've
ever seen in my life. Butlook, I mean it's you know,

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as and I think look at somelevel as an American, it's like hard
to not get kind of emotional aboutthat spirit and not fighting. I think
that that's why a lot of peoplelike the guy. When you hear that,
is that an endorsement by omission,and what I mean is a quasi
endorsement. Now he says he's notgonna endorse in this campaign. He endorsed

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so heavy, so much in thelast one that for him to go,
I'm out, who do you thinkMark Zuckerberg's voting for this time? What
I just heard he's one of theseshy Trump He'll vote for Trump. I
might be wrong, but I'm probablynot. It's not gonna tell anybody that
he voted for Trump, but justhis description he was willing to say publicly
about Donald Trump emerging from that attemptedassassination, fist in the air, blood

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on his face, American flag inthe background. Liberal publications like Time,
did you see the cover they weregoing to run? It was iconic.
It would have been one of thebest covers of Time magazine the history of
their publication. They scrapped it.They put a black and white long shot
of the Butler Pennsylvania rally site instead, with the American flag highlighted the only

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thing in color, and they hada different headline, different article, different
writer. Whatever they did that becausethey knew that image is only going to
help Trump. And when you runa news organization, print, radio,
TV, doesn't matter with the intentand the forethought to go. I got
to do things that hurt Trump,and I can't do things that help Trump.

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Can you still call yourself a newsorganization at that point, No,
you're a propaganda arm. But youminus you subtract the zucker bucks. They're
gone. Biden can't look forward tothose no help from Zuckerberg. In fact,
again, I suspect he's voting forTrump. Then Elon Musk, who
supported Biden last time around, whenthat attempted assassination happened, Instantly, Elon

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Musk posts on X, I fullyendorse Donald Trump, and I will do
whatever it takes to help him win. And he put his money where his
mouth is. Elon Musk is donatingforty five million dollars a month to Trump
political action committees that seek out theharvesting of ballots, the registering of voters.

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This is like twenty twenty in reverse. Think about that pendulum swing of
money alone, No money from Zuckerbergfor Biden, all of this money coming
in from Elon Musk. Can youmake me a list of Americans who make
more money than either Zuckerberg or ElonMusk? What is that list? Is

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it one? Is it two?Kelly? Who who would be on that
list? Jeff Bezos? Bezos wouldbe up there, sure U Barn Buffett,
Yes, Warn Buffett, Donald Trump, Bill Gates, Bill Gates,
Okay, but they're obviously. WhatI'm talking about is that's rarefied air.
That's a big monumental swing in Americanpolitics. Mike on that on that clip

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that you paid or played for Zuckerberg, what interview was that, What outlet
was he on? It was asmaller one. I couldn't really tell.
Was it like a podcast or itwas video. So if you look it
up yourselves online and maybe somebody cantell me, or maybe you can look
it up during this segment or abreak. But then there's Van Jones.

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Van Jones said this, and Iwant you to listen about two thirds of
the way through when one of hisCNN cohorts, a female steps in,
because to my point, you can'tdo any lifting for Trump, you can't
do anything to help him. ButVan Jones did this spirit that this guy
has the guy think this guy's he'sdrunk, He's not. This thing is
like this and what they guys.The last time I was in the commission

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that belt like this was Obama twothousand and eight. There's something happening where
the headline. You just read aheadline just like Obama, and just like
Obama, Trump is showing in thisconvention that he has the capacity and alter
the composition of the electorate. ScottJennings is right, one of the only
right of center voices on CNN withthat tag at the end, but the

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female voice I couldn't identify, stepsin and goes. You just wrote a
headline what Rush Limball always used todo. And it's a great exercise flip
the script. If Van Jones oranybody else on CNN had said that about
Joe Biden, about the DNC,about the Democratic National Convention, they would
somebody else step and go. Youjust wrote a headline. That was her
way of calling him out and saying, why did you just do that?

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Because Van Jones is an honest guy, He's going to call balls and strikes
now again, I disagree with himfundamentally across the board with a lot of
his analysis and certainly his political standings. But he's going to call a spade
a spade, a strike a strike, and when he sees something. I
appreciate that honesty. I trust vanJones. I might disagree with him,
but I trust him. I thinka Van Jones is a man of integrity

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in terms of his views. He'sa leftist, that's fine, He's honest
about it, and I think Igain a lot from watching van Jones.
It's one of the few things aboutCNN I can say that regarding But I
think David Axelrod's another one that again, he is rooting for the opposition,
he plays for the other team.But I think he's going to give you
a straight assessment. Plus he's adirect pipeline to the Obama So if you

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want to know what the Obamas arethinking, Barack in particular, watch David
Axelrod, and whatever he says,believe me, Barack Obama has signed off
on it. We'll get to someof your calls eight five to five,
four zero five eight two five fivewhen we come back your texts as well.
I'll read those five seven, seven, three nine, start them.
Dan and An extended post on Xfrom Mark Halprin. When we come back,

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now, this is the reporter whobroke for Newsmax the story that it's
a matter of time in this pressurecampaign against Joe Biden for him to step
down from the campaign, not fromthe office of the presidency, which I
don't know how you square that circle. I don't know how you say,
well, he's not capable of runninga campaign, but he's perfectly fine to
execute the duties in the office ofthe presidency. I don't think that's possible.

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And because I don't think it's possible, that's why I still believe that
tomahawks are coming my way. JoeBiden ain't going anywhere, and especially especially
if it's Barack Obama telling him toget out the time out. We're back
with more after this. The DanCapla Show continues, and now back to
the Dan Kapla Show podcast. Thatstopped when there was some very specific reporting

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later in the afternoon, Mark Halprinbeing very specific on some reporting that other
reporters, newspapers and networks had partsof that reporting, but not all of
it together. I think at thatpoint is when we started to see the
campaign pushing back because what people closeto Joe Biden have said all along is

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he's a man of great pride.He can be stubborn and tough. Don't
back him into the corner. Ifhe's going to do this, let him
do it his way, on histime frame. And when all of these
reports started coming out, that's whenthe campaign started pushing back, and I
think part of that is giving himthe space to make this decision, to

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finish making this decision with his familythis weekend. There's so many thoughts I
have about what the Democratic Party isdoing here. One, they are undermining
and subverting democracy in their view forthe higher purpose of saving democracy from the
existential threat to democracy, who isembodied in the orange man bad form of

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Donald Trump. It's the most backwardtwisted, warped logic I've ever heard of.
But this is the case they're makingthe American people that circumstances are so
dire, they're candidates so bad,so compromised, that they must replace him
and defy the will of the Democraticvoters that put Joe Biden in is the

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nominee through a primary process. Andthe thing is they done got found out,
that's what happened here. They knewhe was senile. They tried to
pull the wool over our eyes.They tried to tell you it was cheap
fakes. They tried to tell youwere delusional, You were part of a
right wing conspiracy. If you thoughtthat Joe Biden had any kind of symptoms
of dementia, of Parkinson's or whateverelse. He was clearly not diminished behind

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closed doors. Joe Biden's as vibrantas ever. This is the best version
of Joe Biden ever. And ifyou don't believe me, fu, that's
Joe Scarborough. Folks. They weretrying to lie to you. The debate
crushed that lie, obliterated that lie, and now again they done got found
out. So they're going to takethat choice away from the democratic process that

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they so love, that they sorevere, that they so respect. Donald
Trump, is it's the threat todem Oh no, no, no,
we're gonna put democracy aside for asecond, though. We're gonna decide our
candidate from inside closed doors and subvertthe will of the people. Is that
democracy? No, that's closed door, backroom dealing, cigar chomping, old

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school democratic machine politics. All ofthese machines in the past, Huey Long
and Louisiana, Tammany Hall in NewYork. They were Democrat machines. It's
the Democratic Party that's been corrupt ashell, going back to nineteen sixty Chicago,
Illinois, Cook County, Texas.Even in the nineteen seventy six election,
there were rumors of shenanigans that costGerald for the election against Jimmy Carter.

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Before I get to the Mark Helperand piece of this, let's go
to the phone lines eight five fivefour zero five eight two five five and
Scott in Denver on Donald Trump's acceptancespeech from last night at the RNC in
Milwaukee. Scott, Welcome to theDan Kapla Show. Well, thanks a
lot, Ryan, A couple ofthings, if you don't mind. First
of all, I thought this wasa phenomenal week, the best Republican convention

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I've ever seen. The only thingthat really got my both my wife and
I off kilter a little bit.We thought he had a perfect chance for
a layup and he just didn't takeit, and it really disappointed me.
I thought he could have done abetter job in regards of just sticking with
the script. He started out strong, and then as he went in and

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out and weaved in and out ofthese different kind of extemporaneous situations. I
thought that it just hurt him.And afterwards we kind of scanned the other
networks and that's when we did seeDan Jones and that actual Rod, and
they made a very similar observation.They said, hey, with him,
he kind of kept the Democratic Partyalive with that speech. And I just

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think we've got to put our footon the gap, yes, and just
can't look back and give him opportunitieslike this. It seemed like an unforced
are to me, and I'd certainlylike to get your perspective. Scott,
great thoughts. Thank you very muchfor that, and I largely agree with
you and your wife when I wassitting there watching it. First of all,
the first twenty minutes were pitch perfect. They were on point. They

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were awesome. It was emotional.It was a plus material, It was
a plus trump. He was sincere, he was direct, he stayed on
script. To your point, whenhe went over and hugged the firefighter uniform
of Corey and kissed the helmet,I lost it, man, I'm going
to tell you right now. Iwas tearing up. I'm sure a lot

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of you were too, that neededto be the ethos of that speech,
and what happened, in my viewScott is as somebody that has given speeches
like this and does a show likethis, you want to maintain that momentum,
right. You don't want to bluntit. You don't want to have
a cell phone goal type situation.And I think Trump got caught up in

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the moment. He felt good,that is good. I think he wanted
to demonstrate he could talk for anhour and a half. It was ninety
three minutes. Joe Biden can't dothat. Plus he wanted to re emphasize,
hey, I got knocked down,but I got back up and I'm
ready to go, and I candeliver a ninety minute speech even after getting
shot less than a week before.I think there were elements of that.
It kind of turned into a campaignrally. And one of the analyzes that

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I heard from Ben Shapiro, whichI think is spot on, is he
started speaking to the assembled audience inthe arena, interacting, gibing with them.
That's his strength, but he neededto be telegenic, look into the
camera, speak to us watching athome, connect the way that Ronald Reagan
could. I know that's a veryhigh bar. It's extremely high bar.

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But Reagan was adept at at Clintonwas adept at it. Obama was a
dept atit. Even w to itat a certain extent, was a depth
debt, knowing that situation, havingthat presence. But he would go off
script, and in doing so,he would sidetrack a point. If this
is typical Trump, it's the magicof Trump, and it's the double edged
sword of Trump. You're gonna getkind of the good And one of the

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good moments where he went off script, Scott was when he looked up at
the chart. You remember that,and he said, didn't really have a
lot of time to look at thischart last time. And that was funny
because it was like, yeah,he got shot. So he brought some
levity to the room. That wasgreat, and the crowd responded to that.
We responded to that, and hesaid, you know what, that

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chart saved my life. And it'strue. That is literally true, those
kind of effective, connecting type ofstatements. That was the fuel to the
fire that would have burned this electionto the ground and won it. Yes,
he could have won it. Lastnight where he let up and where
I think he aired was mentioning NancyPelosi's name at all. Don't get down
in the mucky muck. He said, he was not going to say Joe

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Biden's name at all. He didthe one time. That's when he went
off script. He needed to havethis be a soaring speech that took off,
that went into the stratosphere, thatstayed there. There was aspirational and
above the frame and uniting. Andhe did do that, I think for
the first twenty minutes for sure.And I like the end of his speech.
I didn't like the middle. Iwould have cut the middle out had

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it be about forty forty five minutes, walk off, wave to the crowd,
and like I said, I wouldgive him a beat. Kelly disagrees.
We'll get the reasons why when wecome back. Also your text on
the Dan Camplas Show. You're listeningto the Dan Kaplas Show podcast. The
biggest issue, immediate issue is money. The donors have stopped giving money and

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it's almost completely ground down to ahalt. This story of Jeffrey Katzenberg telling
President Biden this, I got eclipsedfrom the COVID diagnosis. So that is
a problem. I will say.Also, you got a lot of information

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yesterday. There's a lot of information, a lot of off the record conversations,
a lot of plans being made aboutPresident Biden moving toward getting out of
the race this weekend. No chance. I'm still I'm dying on this hill.
You might be team Dan, maybeyour team Ryan, Ryan Schulink filling

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in Dan. Caplis is getting ona plane and he's going away for a
little while, but he'll be back. He'll be back. I just resolute
in this belief that I know whatan a hole Joe Biden is. He's
a crusty, awful, selfish,narcissist. He is the worst, and
he's got maybe even worse people aroundhim. Doctor Joe Biden, doctor Jill

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Frankenstein, Lady Macbeth. She's init for herself. She's the one calling
the shots, pulling the strings,Edith wilsoning her way through life. And
then you got Hunter Biden, thecrack addict, the guy that was a
bag man overseas for Joe. Andas Dan has aptly put it, this
is why I say, Dan,you're so right. That's why you're wrong,

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because Hunter and doctor Jill don't wantJoe going anywhere, and they certainly
don't want it. If the Obamascome down from their ivory tower and Martha's
vineyard, go well, Joe,it's time for you to go. And
then Joe's gonna go double barrel Bidenmiddle fingers and be even less likely to
get out of the race. Tellme what council Joe Biden's gonna take?

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What even a threat. He's alreadybeen kind of exposed through the Comer investigation
that, yeah, he was corrupt, Yeah he made millions of dollars overseas.
People know that it's baked into thecake. Biden's still doing better in
the polls than just about any otherDemocrat. He's not winning. But just
when you think things are bad,they could always be worse. And here
is again, it's a solar eclipsemoment. I agree with Mika Brazinski,

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also a man of faith and aman of tremendous historic accomplishment, I don't
agree with that. Hard look,it's impossible to ignore where this is going
and exactly what started it. I'mnot unaware of that. At the same
time, I still believe that youdon't know what you have until it's gone.
I think there's again, there's thedevil you know and the devil you

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don't know. And with the Democratsthey don't know. You can't run generic
Democrat, which in one of thesepolls that was pulled like would you vote
for a generic Democrat or Donald Trump? Oh my god, a generic Democrat
is plus ten in Michigan. That'sbecause people in their minds, who is
the ideal Democrat I could think of? And it's whatever they fill into their

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minds and they go well against DonaldTrump. I guess I would vote for
that person. But then you haveto flesh out and define who this generic
Democrat is. They're no longer generic. They're an actual name, a person
with a history that needs to bevetted, a person with baggage that'll need
to be exposed a flat track inthree and a half months. Are you
kidding me? Do you understand apresidential campaign in what it takes to get

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a ground operation going, name awareness, brand id advertising? Are you telling
me a Wes Moore that anybody inIdaho knows who that is, or anybody
Oregon for that matter, Washington.They might vote for generic d but the
independent voters are going to say,I don't know this person and there's things
I don't like about Donald Trump,but life was pretty good in his four

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years. They're not going to votefor an unknown. They're not going to
get energized about an unknown. Certainly, the base of the left is going
to be anybody but Trump and Trumphating. And I'd vote for a dead
body or Joe Biden's head and ajar of blue liquid over Donald Trump.
But that's not most of America.That's the Democratic base. Let's go to
Holly in Aurora comment on Kamala laughingKamala, Okay, Hollywood la f fi

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n apostrophe. Okay, yeah,Ryan, I'm kind of new to you
guys at the station, but Ijust wanted to tell you. I don't
remember where I heard it, butI know I heard it on the radio.
And it was a couple of daysafter the debate, and people were

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the Democrats were starting to really makea big fuss about the fact that Biden
was just working capable, and hewas and they were trying to get him
to agree and step down and stufflike that, but it wasn't very organized
yet. But at the same time, they decided to try and push Kamala
to look very presidential so they dressedher in a navy blue suit. And

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I didn't see it. They werejust describing it, Like I say,
I heard it on the radio.Anyway. She said, yes, she
said, if me, if he'llstep down, I'm ready to be president.
And she said, and I wantPete Buddha Jeedge for my VP.
And I've not heard that from anyplayfelf, but I heard her say it.

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Oh, I don't know, youknow, I don't know what to
think. But anyway, I justthought i'd throw that in there. Well,
I'm glad that you did, hollywodI'm one. Yeah, I'm wondering
if that isn't how come there.You know, they're more in more turmoil
and stuff than they were before becausethey don't want the hat. They don't

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want her being the president and thenfor you know, on the ticket and
then keep boota Jedge. I don'tknow, you know, I just wonder
if that isn't one of it.I don't know, all right, Holly,
Well, I appreciate you bringing thatto the table, and appreciate your
time and appreciate you tuning in.We hope you stay tuned in and don't
forget little self promotion You can listento me here locally in Denver weekdays two

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to four pm on the iHeart appor six point thirty k how locally in
Denver, or you can subscribe downloadlisten to the podcast. Just search my
name Ryan, last name, Shooling. It's weird, it's Dutch. There's
too many vowels, s h U, I, L, I, n
G, and then you're good.You're set. Even Kelly knows how spell
it. Now. That's not aneasy thing. And she's very smart.

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I'm not saying she's not, butit's a very difficult name. If you
need to buy a vowel, I'myour pat Sajack. Okay, come to
me. You need a vowel,I'm your guy, totally your guy.
I got all the vals, okay, almost all of them, well,
two of the five. All right, So Holly, on your point.
I've heard a lot of what you'resaying scuttle. But I've also heard that
Kambo is vetting VP candidate's potential ones. And the two of them were Josh
Shapiro, Governor Pennsylvania. That's theone I fear the most. I think

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he is the most solid and hasthe broadest range of appeal. He's from
a swing state in Pennsylvania. Heis verifiably a moderate. He is not
Gavin Newsom, who is slick,who is slimy. Who is Patrick Bateman
from American Psycho, who is runCalifornia into the ground, who's basically awful.
And again, you're to win,the Democrats need their old fashioned blue
wall. That's Minnesota, Wisconsin,Michigan, Pennsylvania. They win those four

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states, they probably win, butthose states are slipping away because I'm telling
you as being somebody that's from there. Their act the far left does not
play in the Upper Midwest, notat all. Michigan is a Democrat lean
state. Overall. There's a Democratgovernor now, Gretchen Whitmer. There's a
Democrat Secretary of State. There's aDemocrat attorney general. But they're not averse

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to voting Republican. It just kindof need to threat a needle a little
bit. Michigan obviously easier for Republicansto win than Colorado, and with generic
Democrat, Okay, we're starting there. But Kamal is not a generic Democrat
either. She is a California farleft liberal Democrat. Runs almost exclusively on
abortion, She's a one trick ponyin that regard, and she's not battle

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tested, she's not seasoned, she'snot ready for prime time. You put
her on a debate stage with DonaldTrump, by just think of that visual.
She's terrible. She's not very bright. I don't say that, you
know, glibly. I say thatfactually. She's gotten to where she is
because of political expediency, being aDemocrat in California, easiest path there is
to victory. She was black anda woman and checked a couple of boxes

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in the di I columns that JoeBiden wanted, and that's why she was
a terrible candidate in twenty twenty.She was one of the worst on that
stage. Telsey Gabbard was better thanher, Pete boodaj Edge was better than
her. Bernie Sanders is better thanher. Heck, even Elizabeth Warren I
think, was a better candidate thanher. And that's saying a lot.
So we'll take this time out.I got to go to a break,
and Holly, appreciate you coming tothe table with that idea, because I'm
going to read you that Mark Halpernpost. I've been teasing this and not

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getting to it. I apologize forthat, but we're going to get it
when we come back. After this, The Dan Caplas Show continues, and
now back to the Dankaplass Show podcast. Hi, sending you into your weekend.
Welcome back to it. Ryan Schulinclosing down the shop for Dan Capless.
He's on a plane or close toit. He left about fifty minutes
ago, so depending on traffic,he and Amy will be off celebrating their

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thirtieth wedding anniversary in earnest and instyle. Oh boy, do we We've
got some surprises coming up next week. Okay, I'm not going to tell
you what it is. Kelly knows, so ask her. Maybe she'll spill.
Are you the leaky valve in thisjoint? Are you the one that's
going to give up the secrets?You really think that you get a fold
of the questioning? Yeah? Okay, all right, well stay tuned for

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that surprise coming up on Monday.All right, Mark halperin Newsmax post here,
I gotta get to this. It'srather lengthy, so bear with me.
So he reports for news Max.He's been getting a lot of intel
from sources I think that want touse him as a stooge. This is
my opinion to advance a narrative thatis wish casting this into the atmosphere.

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They're trying to speak it into existencethat Joe will drop out. I am
unconvinced that Joe is going to dropout, and I am convinced that doctor
Jill and Hunter are going to doeverything they can to prevent him dropping out,
especially if it's coming at the behest. And via edict from the Obamas
on high, who I do notregard as highly as some and it won't

(28:53):
mention any names, but his initialsare Dan Kaplis. So here we go
when Joe Biden will announce his retirementall caps. Yes. The decisions Joe
Biden faces now as he moves toend his presidential campaign and his career are
personally and professionally painful for him.Based on my reporting, says Mark Halprin,
and having covered and watched Joe Bidenfor decades, it is pretty clear

(29:15):
what is happening. Nancy Pelosi isforcing Biden's hand. She's gone out of
her way so far to make thisprocess as painless as for him as possible,
But she knows him well and wellenough to know that he's one of
the world's worst and slowest decision makers, someone who will delay as long as
possible before picking a path among unattractiveoptions, which means she will do whatever

(29:38):
it takes now to get the rightforcing mechanisms in place. To get the
right forcing mechanisms in place, therainbow coalition of new members of Congress coming
out against Biden today is another seriesof turtles on fence posts. Interesting metaphor.
The message is clear, do whatneeds to be done now, Joe,
or the level of pain will beratcheted up. Uh oh. Amongst

(30:00):
the many paradoxes and ironies in playnow are that these new applications of pain
will produce more of the kind ofembarrassments and humiliations that are amongst the most
painful aspects of this experience for thepresident. And another paradox those feelings make
Biden less likely to be willing toreach decision today because they make him angry,

(30:21):
so Pelosi will likely have to breakhim fully to get him to act.
A little pain won't work. Bidenfaces many decisions now, not just
the tent pole choice to end hisfourth and final presidential campaign. Should he
endorse or not endorse Vice President Harris. The plan was for him not to
endorse in order to create the appearanceof Harris earning this on her own and

(30:42):
creating distance between her and her unpopularboss. But some Harris advocates, many
women, were infuriated by my reportingof Thursday, and say it would be
disrespectful of Biden not to keep hisveep and not to give his viep his
full throated backing. And part ofJoe Biden, who feels strongly that his

(31:02):
record as president is amazing, isprobably pissed that it's even an issue that
anyone in Harris world would not thinkshe would benefit from his backing. The
ego unchecked. There it is continuingquote. Then there are the other subsidiary
decisions in Biden's determining what role hewants to play in them. Who will
Harris pick as a running make shouldpressure be applied to keep anyone else from

(31:25):
challenging her for the nomination? Howwill the convention program restructured to give appropriate
homage to a president with the patriotismand spirit of sacrifice strong enough to step
away from the job he loves.On the last point, Joe, Jill
and Hunter know that whatever promises aremade now, when the time comes to
actually schedule and execute the four daysin Chicago. Once Joe is no longer

(31:48):
the presumptive nominee, he loses thecapacity to keep changes from being made that
will raise the profile of the newticket and lower his. And of course,
despite the conversations and events of thelast few weeks that have led Biden
to understand what he must do,He's still, in his bones and heart
and gut believes he is the bestand only person in the party at this
point who can beat Donald Trump.Mark Halprin continues, when I reported Friday

(32:13):
that Biden would make his announcement asearly as this week, and I did
so because that is what my sourcessaid, But for all the reasons above,
I was deeply skeptical it would happenthat quickly. Joe Biden, like
the Congress he served in for solong, religiously follows Halpern's third rule of
Capitol Hill. No decision is madeuntil it absolutely must be made, and
sometimes not even then. But inthis case, the clock is ticking and

(32:35):
Nancy Pelosi feels that intensely. ButJoe Biden still grappling with the practicalities and
psychology of all of this, anddoing it as a sympathetic, well meaning
elderly man with a poor memory whonow also has COVID, a son who
is facing both possible prison time anda second criminal trial, and a pressure
campaign that is a nightmare for him. Over the balance of July, Joe

(32:55):
Biden can do this his way orPelosi's way, the hard way or the
easy way, the way that limitsembarrassment or the way that stokes it.
When and how the announcement will bemade is contingent on all the factors above
and many more. Veteran Biden andPelosi watchers know this. Joe Biden will
put this announcement off as long ashe can, and it is Pelosi's role
to get it done in time.How these two strong wills end up interacting

(33:20):
is what we will all be watching. My final analysis. That's Mark Halpern.
You can find him on X bythat handle. What is this embarrassment
we're being told about? What isPelosi willing to let out of the bag.
Are they willing to turn full throttleagainst Joe and bring him down on
all the kind of overseas collusion andthe corruption scandals with Hunter Biden being the
bag man. Are they willing togo that far to destroy Joe Biden?

(33:43):
They do so at their own perilbecause even then he still doesn't leave until
he says so. And then willJoe Biden's pride allow him to step aside.
I don't believe so. He istrying to run out the clock here.
I think he might just do it. He's gonna hold on, He's
gonna hang on. He's going tothis, He's gonna kick the can down
the road, and he's gonna doit to the point where they have no

(34:04):
choice but to keep him. That'sthe strategy here, run out the clock.
Kelly, Am I wrong? Nope? I totally agree with you.
All right, say good night,Gracie, good night all right for Kelly
Cocaa Dan Caplis, we hope hehas a great vacation. I'm Ryan schuling.
Stay tuned for that surprise on Mondayhere on The Dan Caplis Show.
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