August 9, 2024 • 35 mins
Pennsylvania. Donald Trump was shot and nearly assassinated there at a rally in Butler, will that alone be enough to forge an unbreakable bond with the voters of the Keystone State? Dan leans toward believing so, but Heidi cautions against several factors that may be working against flipping the state back red for 2024.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is all on the line right now in just
a handful of days left. Eighty five for zero five
A two five to five. The number tags DA N five, seven,
seven through nine. We promise we are getting to our
great texters. In this segment, Heidi ganall in the House,
Open Line Friday, everything is fair game over arc talking
about all of the good, solid, factual, logical reasons to
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believe President Trump is still going to win, and getting
your take on what you think he needs to do
between now an election day to reach persuadables. We know
folks inclined toward him. Hey, we'd crawl over glass to
vote for him, even before his heroic response to that
assassination attempt. But it's the folks in the middle who
are going to decide it what should be done. And then, Heidi,
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have you had a chance to see this video I
just sent you No, Okay, I tried to load it.
I would bet almost every American is going to end
up seeing this video that went viral today. And I'll
describe it briefly, and I'm sure we'll talk about it
more as more people see it, and it is going
to be a bit of a raw shock test. But
it's a video of an African American New York police
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officer and his partner. White female partner has just been
brutalized by a criminal who happens to be African American.
And she's there, bloody, she's dazed, if not knocked out.
She's bloody, and the officer, her partner pants is in
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the course of beating him, hitting him in the face repeatedly.
Pants is the looks early twenties African American suspect and
leaves him there, pants and handcuffed and thoroughly beat up.
And so we'll talk about it more next week after
everybody's had the chance to look at it and listen.
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I would never condone anything illegal, and this officer will
end up getting charged, probably lose his job. I would
never condone anything illegal. I just wouldn't do it. But
you look at this individual, who as a man, is
responding to his partner being brutally assaulted. And what I
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see is I see a good person who is standing
up against evil on behalf of an innocent victim. And
so it'll be very interesting to see. My guess is
there'll be a go fund me, a go fund me
set up for this officer, et cetera. It'll be interesting
to see where that goes. I wouldn't be surprised if
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it raised millions and millions of dollars. So we'll talk
about it more next week because everybody will have seen
this video by Monday.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Well, Dan, I think it goes to what we were
talking about earlier, like what do people want right now?
Speaker 3 (02:52):
What do people need to see to make a decision.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
They want someone to fight back against what's happening to
our families, to our kids, to our to me, to
our country.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
And that's what this officer was doing in his own way.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Yeah, and I hopefully a lot of people want to
fight back against what we this garbage we heard at
the top of our hour in what I can't even
call ABC News. And don't get me wrong, I love
Alex Stone who's part of that good man, but ABC
News itself has approved once again at the top of
the hour is a pure propaganda tool for Harris. And
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what do they do at the top They have this
interview with this young woman who just echoes her whole
formal campaign theme, which is this perverted freedom right and
oh you know she's for freedom abortion. You know that's
like remember plantation owners used to argue, No, it's all
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about freedom. You don't want a slave, don't own one.
It's all about freedom. It's our freedom as Americans to
own slaves if we want to. So Harris trying to
twist this glorification of killing a fellow humans up to
the moment of birth as a freedom issue. Yes so,
but ABC zero credibility anymore.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
What I love is when everyday Americans speak up and
find their voice and aren't afraid to say what they
want to say at a rally at the RNC convention.
That's what I think Donald Trump needs to focus on,
is being a man of the people and giving people
a chance to stick up for him, like MICHAELA.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Montgomery did.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
She's an African American gal mom at the rally in Atlanta,
I believe it was a week ago, did an amazing
speech and just took come all at to the cleaners
and it was so impactful, so much more impactful than
if President Trump said.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
The same thing she did because it was from her heart.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
She was passionate.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
She I believe she previously was a Democrat, and she
talks about why she's changed, how she's woken up to
what the Democrat Party has done to America. And I
think we need more of that, more stories like that,
more everyday people speaking up and finding their voice and
sticking up for Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Yeah, and then here's another question. Let me go to
the text on this, Dan Trump needs to say who
he is and what meg is. They need to define
who they are and override the left's narrative. Question though,
is at this point, how do you reach people? Because
other than Fox News, the media at this point is
completely in Kamala Harris's pocket, right and the cabal's pocket.
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So as a practical matter, how does Trump cut through.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
He's got to get in front of the camera. We're
good or bad. He's got to.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Keep doing rallies and speaking and talking in a way
that the liberal press will cover him. But also I
think everyday Americans can do this for him, like I
was talking about earlier.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
So social media, of course is very important. It's very
impactful to people.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
We don't have our best game going on in the
servative side right now, So I would encourage everybody.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Listening make a post, stick up.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
For him, talk about why you're going to vote for
Donald Trump. He took a bullet for us, the least
we can do is do a post, get on an app,
make a few phone calls, do some door knocks. It's
going to take a little bit from a lot of
people to get this across the finish line.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Yeah, and I do think he's going to win in
the end, but we've got to be clear out about
some of these challenges. I had. Texter says, Dan, I
don't think they'll drop dump walls. He's way too valuable
for the progressives who have infiltrated the dump party. Interesting
it goes to this Peggy noon In piece I quoted earlier,
where Peggy Noonon's core point was that the pick of
walls is a clear statement by Harris that she's going
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pure base and pure left, and she's not trying to
appeal to the middle, you know, in any sustained way.
She's just trying to excite the base to the point
they'll win this election. And then we have another Texter saying, hey,
they won't dump walls and terorphrasing because it'll make it
look like a clown car. What would you say to that.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
I don't think they care. They really don't care. It's
whatever the data says to do, they'll do. They're ruthless,
and the media will fall right in line and support
whatever they want them.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
To it, says Dan, Do we just swap candidates? Now,
I don't get it. Wouldn't people freak out at their instability?
And you would hope, right, you would hope people say, oh,
her judgment, this and that. But when you have the media,
when you have total control of the media, as the
cabal that deposed Biden clearly did and he never had
a chance at that point, when you have total control
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of the media, you can do about anything you want to.
And at that point, yeah, they won't suffer anywhere near
the same consequence for that kind of instability. But you
see it starting right now on so many different fronts,
right and we haven't even had time to get to that.
But some of the story and some of the top
mainstream in quotes outlets right now that are laying the
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ground work for getting rid of walls.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Yeah, and you know what, Dan, I'm gonna stop saying
mainstream media because they're not me extream, they're radical leftist.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
We need a Yeah, but what's a good catchy name.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
For corrupt corporate media? I don't know, let's do a
let's do a poll.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Okay, what should it be instead of mainstream media?
Speaker 4 (08:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Yeah, what what should it be?
Speaker 5 (08:20):
I think DeSantis calls it? What's Heidi just said? The
corrupt corporate media. Legacy media is another name I've heard.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
But that's not too positive, that's too positive, that's too gentle.
So what do you think that should be? Eight five
five or zero five eight two five five? What captures
it is fully truthful without being pejorative? Text d A
N five seven seven three nine Ryan abb A good choice.
That from Alexa.
Speaker 5 (08:44):
Always a good choice. Yes, Amy Cappl's approved, too.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Oh wonderful. Thank you. Good to know. I was gonna
say something and I won't. So, Heidi, if you had
to pick one, and I've got a long list of points,
one point right now that gives you the most reason
to believe, the strongest reason to believe Trump will win?
What would it be?
Speaker 2 (09:09):
The feeling I get on the ground when I'm out
at real events with real people, real Americans, real Colorado's
listening to them. I'm with the grassroots a lot, not
just conservatives. I'm at lots of different types of events.
It's a very very different conversation than what we're hearing
in the media and what we're seeing on social media.
I feel very confident that Americans in Colorado everyday, folks
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who don't pay attention to politics, are ticked off, mostly
about the economy, that they can't afford to live anymore,
but also about the unfairness that illegal immigrants are coming
in and taking jobs and taking money from American citizens,
and that we're paying the price for it. We can't
go to downtown Denver anymore for a Rockies game without
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worrying about our car getting broken into. We can't walk
down the sidewalk in Denver without step over a homeless
person or a needle. And we can't afford to our kids,
can't especially can't afford to live here in Colorado anymore.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Can't get an apartment.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
You know, it's under twenty five hundred dollars a month
for a stink in one bedroom.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
So let's open it up to everybody else. What is
at this point the strongest evidence you have the Trump's
going to win when we come back. I'll give you mine.
It's one word. It's a close. It's almost a tie
with my second point, which is two words. But I
think you'll hear both and say, yeah, no, you're right,
He's going to win and not so happy Texter, thank
you for that. You're on the Dan Capla show.
Speaker 6 (10:39):
That's the way Clinton campaign right here.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
You see the tears of the Clinton campaign.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
It's to make it.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Now. Let's take a look the pictures that the Trump
he had quarters right now, you hear the those dots.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Donald Trump now is two hundred.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
And twenty two level verses two hundred and nine for
Hillary Clinton. Tom be honest, he's getting close.
Speaker 7 (10:56):
So I mean, you've seen that victory watch party multiply
that time tenning of Trump Tower. Right now in the
war room, I'm being told by forces they are very excited.
They are triumphant for several reasons. You know, we said
conventional wisdom was completely wrong in this election, and so
was political science. Donald Trump's on his third campaign management team.
Everyone said they weren't ready for primetime. Even they themselves
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at time weren't sure how they would do in this race.
And yet they made the call to go to Minnesota.
People criticize them for that, seems to be a smart play.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Tonight.
Speaker 7 (11:26):
His last stop on this campaign was in Michigan. Seems
like it was a smart play.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
It's twenty sixteen all over again. I'm just telling you
that it's twenty sixteen all over again. The parallels are
beyond striking. How do you get hosting today? Glad you're here.
We'll get to our great texters eight five five for
zero five A two five five text dam five seven
seven three nine. We want to break with this id
and that is okay. What is your strongest piece of
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evidence that Donald Trump is going to win? It's kind
of a tie for me, and I'll get to it
in a second, but yours.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
It's the everyday conversations I'm having with Americans and people
across Colorado. They're ticked off, they want change, and they're
not buying into what the media is selling. So that
gives me confidence.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
And my list is very long, but let me give
you my top two. My top one one word Pennsylvania.
One word, and that's because and you saw it and
I think it's accurate. The political calculation this morning gives
him a forty six percent chance of winning the presidency,
but if Trump wins Pennsylvania, it goes to ninety six percent.
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And whether or not you agree with those particular numbers
Pennsylvania's key right. And I think that you've got Kamala Harris,
who is on record as opposed to fracking in her lies,
now saying oh, no, I didn't really mean it. Nobody's
buying that. And the fact that Trump has historically been
competitive in Pennsylvania wanted in sixteen, but the fact that
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he took a bullet for America there and his heroic
response to that happened in that state. I think it
creates a bond in Pennsylvania that's going to carry through
to election day.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
I agree with you, although I'm very nervous about them
pulling Waltz out and putting Shapiro in.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Why you just buzz kill?
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Who know that I'd be the buzzkill on this station,
But it just sits in the back of my mind, like, Oh,
I'm nervous. I'm nervous. I also think, you know, we're
going to.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Talk to Jimmy about election integrity in a few minutes.
But they have not changed back any of those policies
that they put in place in Pennsylvania that allowed them
to drag the vote out so long. And Josh Shapiro
is a champion for most of those policies that make
it really tough on the win in Pennsylvania from that perspective.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
And next time, my long list of evidence, Heidi would
be working people, because this is all about the swing states, right,
and you look at all of the games Trump has
made for good reason with working people, and working people
are living the harm of the Biden administration. And in
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the end, just like sixteen, I think you're going to
see a massive turnout of working people for Donald Trump.
So I think that's another one. I want to get to.
This text Dan interesting about the police officer beating a criminal.
I agree with you. These criminals need to be beaten
or tossed aside, and then we'll get to the rest
of that text. Wait a second, that's not what I'm
saying when I talk about I said it repeatedly. I
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wanted to alert everybody to a viral video they're almost
certain to see this weekend of an African American New
York police officer whose female white partner has just been
brutalized and bloodied and is on the ground the victim
of a criminal who just happens to be African American,
and the video shows her African American partner pommeling and
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then pantsing the perpetrator. And I said repeatedly, I do
not condone illegal conduct. I said, the police officer is
going to be prosecuted. My point was, it will be
interesting to see how America reacts to this. And also
I look at that, and I don't know this police officer,
but as the son of a police officer, I believe
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that that we'll probably find out this officer who was
standing up for his partner, I was probably a very
good person who in that moment was just compelled to
stand up for his partner that way. So no, I'm
not condoning any legal conduct, but I would bet that
Americans across a lot of different lines rise up to
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support that police officer. FIK, have you seen the video yet?
Speaker 2 (15:46):
I did. I watched it on the break, and as
you take, yeah, I mean, part of me is just like, yeah,
let's stop, let's stop tolerating this crop and give our
officer some leeway, not necessarily to your point to do
anything illy. But I'm also I'm a daughter of a cop,
and we have that in common, and I know how
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passionate my dad is about law and order, about protecting
our country about protecting all of us, and so I'm
sure that let that officer up to see his partner
get beat up like that.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Yeah, and again I can't condone anything illegal. He will
be fired, but I think you're going to see a
lot of support across America for him. And we'll talk
about that more Monday, after everybody's at a chance to
see the video.
Speaker 5 (16:30):
You I think I'll be fired, though, Dan, and especially
considering let's call this what it is, I think people
will have a very different reaction. I know I did
when I found out that his partner was female.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Oh yeah, and when you see that video and you
see her just as either unconscious or completely stunned from
the brain injury, bloody face, I think an awful lot
of people are going to say, you know what, They're
going to have mixed emotions. Yeah, you can, you can't
beat suspects. But I think a lot of people are
going to be heartened that you see one partner standing
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up for the other, and the fact that happens across
racial lines, I think will be heartening to a lot
of people. There's going to be a guys, there's going
to be a powerful gut reaction to that video, right,
and what percentage do you think of Americans who see
that across party lines? Do you think it'll be positive
and supportive of the officer.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Well, let's see, the Democrat base is about what forty percent?
So probably the other sixty?
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Yeah, yeah, eight five five or zero five A two
five five the number? Boy, So much good stuff ahead.
We're up against this break, Heidi ganol in studio. Will
we'll give you more and we'll go to the phone
lines next as well as our great texters. But want
to give you more solid, factual, logical reason to be
very optimistic that Trump's going to win. And also why
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the conventional wisdom about the debate that Harris is just
going to expose herself as a fool. Don't believe that
Trump can win big, but he's got to do it
a different way. You're on the Dan Kapla show.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
Taylor Swift fans are begging each other to vote for
Donald Trump.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
I kid you not, it's happening.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
Taylor Swift fans are begging each other to vote for
Donald Trump.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
After ISIS terrorists.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
ISIS terrorists, a terrorist organization that Donald Trump wiped out
during his presidency, have now re emerged, they've gained strength,
they've kind of reorganized, and they're threatening Taylor Swift concerts
in and around Europe and Vienna.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Five point thirty six. Glad you're here. Heidi Gonnall co
hosting the show today. We love that we got to
our fiery phone lines. In a second, Jimmy Sangenberger kind
to do a drop with us. He's been covering the
Tina Peters trial. Jimmy, welcome back to the show. Oh,
we don't have men. Well I just gave him a
big intro. So when he does a just pop him on.
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Oh okay, so Kelly had to go to the bathroom
and is now dialing him late. Okay, better than dialing
him from the bathroom. I guess right. Okay, we've got Jimmy. Jimmy,
no big intro because I gave it when you weren't here.
How's that The Tina Peters trial going?
Speaker 6 (19:21):
Oh my goodness.
Speaker 8 (19:22):
Well, the defense rested and they were last I saw
until the feed cut out. They were arguing over jury instructions.
So we will see closing arguments and then the jury
going into deliberations on Monday.
Speaker 9 (19:36):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Wow, So any predictions you know, I.
Speaker 8 (19:41):
Think the case is a really difficult one for the defense,
particularly because the case they put up didn't really have
much there there, I would say, particularly because in that
regard they were making all sorts of arguments that were
more I think we talk about this the other day,
related to ends justify the means types of arguments which
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the judge already said were not admissible. Basically, it almost
became the case that Tina Peters was going to testify,
but she went on this whole thing about how she
wanted to have a specific type of scope, like actually
had a back and forth with the judge this morning
over what she would want to testify on that sort
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of thing, and then ultimately claimed, I'm not going to
be able to make a defense, so I will not
go ahead and testify.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Okay. So Tina Peters said this was an open court.
Apparently she wanted to take the stand if she could
testify to ABC and D. The judge said not a
and she did not testify.
Speaker 8 (20:44):
It yeah, in essence, and there was also limitations. There
are certain areas I don't want to go into, like
she wanted to constrain the prosecution in certain ways that
where you know, the judge was like, I can't exactly
do that. It depends on what up in the moment.
And ultimately the conclusion though that she reached was, Hey,
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you're not going to let me prevent prevent the defense
that I want to, so I'm not going.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
To testify, Okay, okay.
Speaker 8 (21:15):
Fascinating and yeah, and the big thing here, Dan is
that if you look at the way in which they
approached the case, and I really talked about this in
my column today for the Denver Gazette, was consistently asking
witnesses during the during the prosecution's witnesses consistently asking them
questions that were irrelevant that weren't didn't have anything to
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do with the chargers themselves, and were more about voting
machines and different things that in a pre trial order
the judge specifically had said, you can't address these. Well,
the judge allowed a lot of latitude in my view,
throughout this case to the defense, and ultimately so much
so that they were consistently violating the pre trial orders
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and so forth, where the judge specifically even said today
threatened the possibility of contempt on the defense attorneys because
they kept going beyond what was permitted in the pre
trial order. When it comes to the actual case and
the facts of the matter, Jimmy.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Really appreciate all your coverage, and folks who want to
go back see this column see prior columns. So at
the time the verdict, whichever way it goes, comes in,
they're more fully informed. Where should they go?
Speaker 8 (22:30):
Denver is at dot com great place to check that.
And of course I appreciate being on with you and
others where it I heard about the trial. And one
last thing I do want to say is that the
big thing that I think is a takeaway from this
case is that the defense resembles and has resembled throughout
this case and trial a dominion fishing expedition. That is
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to say, they were trying to get particular things that
could be used in Mike Lindell's defamation case where he's
defending against dominion from February of twenty twenty one. And
there were even things stated by both by the attorneys
during both of the attorneys throughout the trial that indicated
exactly as much, including just one line I really want
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to get in here, Dan, I can assure you following
the Trusted Bill, which is the software update that is
the crux of this. The effect was the deletion of
the records Key Lindell needed to defend the lawsuit. So
this to me was much more about Mike Lindell and
other cases going on around the country than defending Tina Peers.
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Really fascinating as a devent.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Jimmy, thank you, Thank you, appreciate all your work on this.
Thank you, And Jimmy, You'll be back with us for
the verdict for sure, Heidi, thoughts of any kind on
any issue, you know, I.
Speaker 9 (23:50):
Had.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
My heart goes out to Tina Peers. She's a gold
star mom and she's been through a lot, and I
believe her intentions were pure. She really wanted to protect
our country, to protect Colorado.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
So I have different.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Perspectives that I'm not going to deep dive on right now.
But one of the things that bothered me a little
bit about the coverage I saw in the case was
who gets to make decisions about what happens in the
audit process or the post election process. Is it the
Secretary of State's office or is it the clerk? Like
how much power does the clerk actually have? And what
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bothers me about what Jenner Griswold has done is she's
taken a lot of the power away from the clerks
and put it back in the Secretary of State's office.
And I think we're going to see implications from that
going forward in future elections.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Wow. And when it comes to Jenna Griswold, can you
imagine a worse person to have as Secretary of State
at a time like this where you look at the
polls and you got a whole big group of people
who have doubts about the integrity of the process. Personally,
I do not have doubts about the integrity of the
process in Colorado, but she seems to go out of
her way to create those doubts through her hyper partisan
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Let's go to beautiful Larvada. Talk to Dean. You're on
with Dan Kaplis and Heidi Ganah. Welcome, Hey Dean, how
come we don't have any Dean Martin music on the show.
It's like one hundred years before my life. But he's
got some cool stuff. Hey, Dean.
Speaker 6 (25:18):
I have to tell people sometimes my name is Dean
Martin just so they can figure out my actual first
name is Dean because they think it's discontinued.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Oh what do they think your name is.
Speaker 6 (25:29):
I've been called bean lean. I mean's just crazy. I mean,
you know, you know of these young guys never heard
the word dean.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
I guess you didn't answer to dean when we called
you dean. Maybe that's the problem.
Speaker 6 (25:40):
So yes, yeah, no kidding. Hey, So here's what I
wanted to get to Dan, is I think if Democrats
tried to pull a wolf. I mean, this is going
to be a circus clowns show two point zero from
what they've already done. So I don't think they can
go down that road. That's just my opinion.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Well play this out for how does that end up
hurting them? Because right off the bat biggest mistake in
modern American political history not putting Shapiro in there when
Pennsylvania's everything so they dump walls before they dump walls
at the convention, they put Shapiro in there. How does
that end up hurting them?
Speaker 6 (26:18):
I don't know, man, It just seems like the Democrats
kind look at each other like what are we doing here?
I mean, we just is this plug and play. We
just keep switching the batters out.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
When we need want right right, and Heidi, I respectfully
submit that Dean's right about what would happen in kind
of a sane world where there's fair reporting, because if
a Republican party did that, the media would be on
at twenty four to seven their clowns this and that.
But if the Democrats do it, they're going to get
praised for.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
It, that's absolutely right, and then cover it up.
Speaker 6 (26:49):
And is there any laws or rules for this?
Speaker 1 (26:52):
They make them up as they go along. Yeah, and
political parties can do that.
Speaker 6 (26:56):
Yeah, I guess it doesn't matter. Yeah, because they kicked
Biden it should be didn't like debate, so I guess
there is no rule.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
What's interesting is they were all hot to trot on
having us kick jd Vance out the first week or two.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
You got to replace JD's and he's doing great now.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
That's why they wanted to mount. Yeah, you're right, that's
a good point, Dan. Yeah, sorry, I didn't mean it interrupt,
Thank you, Dean. Why do people, at least me, Why
do people are always say that when they interrupt, Hey,
don't mean to interrupt, but you're interrupting.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
Don't know the answer.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Sorry about that.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
You don't have to be sorry. This is your show,
and no, you're the master No, no, none of that.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
I see you know. Remind me to tell you the
story of getting fired here someday.
Speaker 9 (27:44):
What.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Oh yeah, like Craig and I when we had our
great show for eight eight and a half years, and
believe me, every day of that was a privilege. We
had no right to be here any single day. Every
day was a gift, and we were very fortunate to
have what we had seven and a half or eight
years together. So total gratitude for having the opportunity. But
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the day came when they weren't as excited about us anymore.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
Okay, it hurts my heart.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
No, it's the business. Are you kidding me? You just
you gotta be grateful for having the opportunity. And unless
this is a dream, I'm back here now.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
You're doing great.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
No, but I'm glad to be here with you, and
sorry to digress into that. We've got to hit this
hard break here. But when we come back, we'll go
back to our lines in text. But I want to
give you more reasons. I'm sure hewd he does too,
to believe, good solid analytical reasons that Trump is going
to win. And it's sixteen all over again. You're on
the Dan Kaplo show, and when we are.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
Singing happy tones and sing Merry Christmas and wish each
other Merry Christmas, these children are not going to have
them merry Christmas?
Speaker 3 (28:59):
How dare we speak merry Christmas?
Speaker 9 (29:01):
How dare we? So?
Speaker 1 (29:03):
I got this very long list of reasons to know
Trump is going to win, and that's on that list.
That has got to be number one and hard to believe.
There's stuff that's better but Heidig and all coasting today.
But we were talking during the break about Okay, President
Trump confirmed it yesterday. He's he's the campaign is pretty
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much going to stay under the radar in August. Very
they'll be Montana tonight, but very little in the way
of public rallies, do some fundraising in Colorado tomorrow, and
then their plan is to unleash at the start of September,
after the Dumb Convention. So what do you make of
that plan?
Speaker 2 (29:41):
You know, Dan, I don't really know. I'm trying to
wrap my head around it. Maybe he's waiting for Kamala
to implode. Maybe he thinks that's not who he's really
going to end up running against. Maybe he's waiting to
see what Shenanigan's happened at the convention before he really
goes all in. But I also know that, and I
learned this the hard way from the Democrats is they
start spending their money.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
The minute ballots drop.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
And so perhaps he's taken a lesson from our dear
Governor Jared Poulas, who drops thirty million dollars in a heartbeat,
that you wait till the ballots drop, because nobody pays
attention until then.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Really, here's what I think's going on. What I think
is going on is a combination of things. And that
is that, Okay, given this unprecedented deposing of the democratically
elected Biden, an installation of Harris, and now the media,
you know, just just full bore Harris campaign, I think
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they've concluded there is nothing they can do right now
through the convention, nothing they can do that will make
a difference. And critically, yeah, I'm saving money. I think
that's part of it. But critically, Heidi, I think what's
going on is they've got all this good stuff, right,
like the bite I just played. You play that on
a loop in the Swing States, you should win this race, right,
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But I think they're afraid if they launched that too early,
it will be stale, it won't have impact by the time,
as you say, people are going to vote. So I
think a big part of it is wanting to keep
their best stuff fresh until they get into the stretch run.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
I think that's a good move. I do agree with that.
But back to my point about everyday people.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
I think us everyday people can can fight the battle
right now and talk about it. Be brave, post about it,
talk to our neighbors about it, get on the phone
with friends, be courageous.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
We've got one shot at this. We have eighty days
or so.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Left well, and especially people in the swing states. Right
and then if you got five bucks or whatever you got,
send it to the Trump campaign. Patrick and Pueblo. You're
on with Heidigenall and Dan Kaplis. Welcome.
Speaker 9 (31:40):
Patrick, Hello Dan, and hello Heidi. I hope you guys
all have your defund the polist t shirts and.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Patrick created mine.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
I still have mine.
Speaker 8 (31:52):
I love it.
Speaker 9 (31:53):
Hey, I just wanted to say, I think Trump, you know,
the Democratic stronghold of Pueblo. I'm hearing way more Trump
voters than Nami anything else good, and so I think
he's going to win bigger than people are giving him
credit for one thing I'd like to do, hearing say
is on the drill, baby drill, Maybe follow it up
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with and will use some of the profits to prop
up Social Security and medicare.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Patrick appreciates the call. Glad to hear that anecdotelevidence, which
I do think really matters. And that's why I'm saying
it's twenty sixteen all over again, party like it's twenty sixteen.
I think the similarities are overwhelming, except Trump is in
a stronger position this time because Hillary Clinton. While I
think she would have been an awful president, Hillary Clinton
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far superior to Kamala Harris, you know, far superior skills.
I think she's far superior intellectually. I think she's stronger,
far more accomplished. And believe me, she's Hillary Clinton one
of the last people I'd want as president. But Trump
beat her, and Trump now has all these accomplishments, and
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I just think Trump's in a stronger position than sixteen Heidi,
what do you think about this? Texter says Dan. Less
than fifty percent of Americans are working class. We're rebutting
my point earlier that Trump is going to win because
of massive working person support. On election day. What about
this point that less than fifty percent now qualify as
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quote working class.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Well, all that matters is the five or six swing
states and what the makeup there is in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
I amen, you know, Michigan, they are working people.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Amen. Amen to that, And I think people are going
to turn out in record numbers. Texter says Dan, it's
frustrating to listen to you soft pedal when discussing the
Harris Walls ticket. Walts couldn't speak anymore obviously, like a
naked Marcus soft pedal. Where do you get soft pedal? Flareoffs, fireoffs. Yeah,
I mean we're the ones sitting here talking about wait
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a second, he's so bad. He's so bad. Our problem
is they're going to remove him before the end of
the convention.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
That's right, Dan. I mean, that's what's going to keep
me up at night for the next couple of weeks.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Right, That and the very very very significant chance that
the Cabal makes sure Harris is actually president before election day.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
But you know what I was thinking about that maybe
that upsets women and makes them mad that she got
that without one vote.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
See, you'd have better insight into that than I would,
that's for sure. How do you thank you for being here?
Thank you for having me such a pleasure and so interesting. Brian,
You're the best, my friend. Have a great weekend. Don't
forget Ryan's tremendous show two to four each afternoon, Mountain Time,
six point thirty kh of w Denver, Kelly, Human Sunshine.
Enjoy your great weekend. Please join us Monday on the
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Dan Kapla Show.
This is all on the line right now in just
a handful of days left. Eighty five for zero five
A two five to five. The number tags DA N five, seven,
seven through nine. We promise we are getting to our
great texters. In this segment, Heidi ganall in the House,
Open Line Friday, everything is fair game over arc talking
about all of the good, solid, factual, logical reasons to
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believe President Trump is still going to win, and getting
your take on what you think he needs to do
between now an election day to reach persuadables. We know
folks inclined toward him. Hey, we'd crawl over glass to
vote for him, even before his heroic response to that
assassination attempt. But it's the folks in the middle who
are going to decide it what should be done. And then, Heidi,
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have you had a chance to see this video I
just sent you No, Okay, I tried to load it.
I would bet almost every American is going to end
up seeing this video that went viral today. And I'll
describe it briefly, and I'm sure we'll talk about it
more as more people see it, and it is going
to be a bit of a raw shock test. But
it's a video of an African American New York police
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officer and his partner. White female partner has just been
brutalized by a criminal who happens to be African American.
And she's there, bloody, she's dazed, if not knocked out.
She's bloody, and the officer, her partner pants is in
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the course of beating him, hitting him in the face repeatedly.
Pants is the looks early twenties African American suspect and
leaves him there, pants and handcuffed and thoroughly beat up.
And so we'll talk about it more next week after
everybody's had the chance to look at it and listen.
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I would never condone anything illegal, and this officer will
end up getting charged, probably lose his job. I would
never condone anything illegal. I just wouldn't do it. But
you look at this individual, who as a man, is
responding to his partner being brutally assaulted. And what I
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see is I see a good person who is standing
up against evil on behalf of an innocent victim. And
so it'll be very interesting to see. My guess is
there'll be a go fund me, a go fund me
set up for this officer, et cetera. It'll be interesting
to see where that goes. I wouldn't be surprised if
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it raised millions and millions of dollars. So we'll talk
about it more next week because everybody will have seen
this video by Monday.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Well, Dan, I think it goes to what we were
talking about earlier, like what do people want right now?
Speaker 3 (02:52):
What do people need to see to make a decision.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
They want someone to fight back against what's happening to
our families, to our kids, to our to me, to
our country.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
And that's what this officer was doing in his own way.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Yeah, and I hopefully a lot of people want to
fight back against what we this garbage we heard at
the top of our hour in what I can't even
call ABC News. And don't get me wrong, I love
Alex Stone who's part of that good man, but ABC
News itself has approved once again at the top of
the hour is a pure propaganda tool for Harris. And
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what do they do at the top They have this
interview with this young woman who just echoes her whole
formal campaign theme, which is this perverted freedom right and
oh you know she's for freedom abortion. You know that's
like remember plantation owners used to argue, No, it's all
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about freedom. You don't want a slave, don't own one.
It's all about freedom. It's our freedom as Americans to
own slaves if we want to. So Harris trying to
twist this glorification of killing a fellow humans up to
the moment of birth as a freedom issue. Yes so,
but ABC zero credibility anymore.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
What I love is when everyday Americans speak up and
find their voice and aren't afraid to say what they
want to say at a rally at the RNC convention.
That's what I think Donald Trump needs to focus on,
is being a man of the people and giving people
a chance to stick up for him, like MICHAELA.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Montgomery did.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
She's an African American gal mom at the rally in Atlanta,
I believe it was a week ago, did an amazing
speech and just took come all at to the cleaners
and it was so impactful, so much more impactful than
if President Trump said.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
The same thing she did because it was from her heart.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
She was passionate.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
She I believe she previously was a Democrat, and she
talks about why she's changed, how she's woken up to
what the Democrat Party has done to America. And I
think we need more of that, more stories like that,
more everyday people speaking up and finding their voice and
sticking up for Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Yeah, and then here's another question. Let me go to
the text on this, Dan Trump needs to say who
he is and what meg is. They need to define
who they are and override the left's narrative. Question though,
is at this point, how do you reach people? Because
other than Fox News, the media at this point is
completely in Kamala Harris's pocket, right and the cabal's pocket.
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So as a practical matter, how does Trump cut through.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
He's got to get in front of the camera. We're
good or bad. He's got to.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
Keep doing rallies and speaking and talking in a way
that the liberal press will cover him. But also I
think everyday Americans can do this for him, like I
was talking about earlier.
Speaker 3 (05:53):
So social media, of course is very important. It's very
impactful to people.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
We don't have our best game going on in the
servative side right now, So I would encourage everybody.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
Listening make a post, stick up.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
For him, talk about why you're going to vote for
Donald Trump. He took a bullet for us, the least
we can do is do a post, get on an app,
make a few phone calls, do some door knocks. It's
going to take a little bit from a lot of
people to get this across the finish line.
Speaker 1 (06:20):
Yeah, and I do think he's going to win in
the end, but we've got to be clear out about
some of these challenges. I had. Texter says, Dan, I
don't think they'll drop dump walls. He's way too valuable
for the progressives who have infiltrated the dump party. Interesting
it goes to this Peggy noon In piece I quoted earlier,
where Peggy Noonon's core point was that the pick of
walls is a clear statement by Harris that she's going
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pure base and pure left, and she's not trying to
appeal to the middle, you know, in any sustained way.
She's just trying to excite the base to the point
they'll win this election. And then we have another Texter saying, hey,
they won't dump walls and terorphrasing because it'll make it
look like a clown car. What would you say to that.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
I don't think they care. They really don't care. It's
whatever the data says to do, they'll do. They're ruthless,
and the media will fall right in line and support
whatever they want them.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
To it, says Dan, Do we just swap candidates? Now,
I don't get it. Wouldn't people freak out at their instability?
And you would hope, right, you would hope people say, oh,
her judgment, this and that. But when you have the media,
when you have total control of the media, as the
cabal that deposed Biden clearly did and he never had
a chance at that point, when you have total control
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of the media, you can do about anything you want to.
And at that point, yeah, they won't suffer anywhere near
the same consequence for that kind of instability. But you
see it starting right now on so many different fronts,
right and we haven't even had time to get to that.
But some of the story and some of the top
mainstream in quotes outlets right now that are laying the
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ground work for getting rid of walls.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
Yeah, and you know what, Dan, I'm gonna stop saying
mainstream media because they're not me extream, they're radical leftist.
Speaker 1 (08:08):
We need a Yeah, but what's a good catchy name.
Speaker 2 (08:11):
For corrupt corporate media? I don't know, let's do a
let's do a poll.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Okay, what should it be instead of mainstream media?
Speaker 4 (08:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Yeah, what what should it be?
Speaker 5 (08:20):
I think DeSantis calls it? What's Heidi just said? The
corrupt corporate media. Legacy media is another name I've heard.
Speaker 1 (08:26):
But that's not too positive, that's too positive, that's too gentle.
So what do you think that should be? Eight five
five or zero five eight two five five? What captures
it is fully truthful without being pejorative? Text d A
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That from Alexa.
Speaker 5 (08:44):
Always a good choice. Yes, Amy Cappl's approved, too.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Oh wonderful. Thank you. Good to know. I was gonna
say something and I won't. So, Heidi, if you had
to pick one, and I've got a long list of points,
one point right now that gives you the most reason
to believe, the strongest reason to believe Trump will win?
What would it be?
Speaker 2 (09:09):
The feeling I get on the ground when I'm out
at real events with real people, real Americans, real Colorado's
listening to them. I'm with the grassroots a lot, not
just conservatives. I'm at lots of different types of events.
It's a very very different conversation than what we're hearing
in the media and what we're seeing on social media.
I feel very confident that Americans in Colorado everyday, folks
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who don't pay attention to politics, are ticked off, mostly
about the economy, that they can't afford to live anymore,
but also about the unfairness that illegal immigrants are coming
in and taking jobs and taking money from American citizens,
and that we're paying the price for it. We can't
go to downtown Denver anymore for a Rockies game without
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worrying about our car getting broken into. We can't walk
down the sidewalk in Denver without step over a homeless
person or a needle. And we can't afford to our kids,
can't especially can't afford to live here in Colorado anymore.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
Can't get an apartment.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
You know, it's under twenty five hundred dollars a month
for a stink in one bedroom.
Speaker 1 (10:12):
So let's open it up to everybody else. What is
at this point the strongest evidence you have the Trump's
going to win when we come back. I'll give you mine.
It's one word. It's a close. It's almost a tie
with my second point, which is two words. But I
think you'll hear both and say, yeah, no, you're right,
He's going to win and not so happy Texter, thank
you for that. You're on the Dan Capla show.
Speaker 6 (10:39):
That's the way Clinton campaign right here.
Speaker 3 (10:41):
You see the tears of the Clinton campaign.
Speaker 2 (10:43):
It's to make it.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Now. Let's take a look the pictures that the Trump
he had quarters right now, you hear the those dots.
Speaker 3 (10:49):
Donald Trump now is two hundred.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
And twenty two level verses two hundred and nine for
Hillary Clinton. Tom be honest, he's getting close.
Speaker 7 (10:56):
So I mean, you've seen that victory watch party multiply
that time tenning of Trump Tower. Right now in the
war room, I'm being told by forces they are very excited.
They are triumphant for several reasons. You know, we said
conventional wisdom was completely wrong in this election, and so
was political science. Donald Trump's on his third campaign management team.
Everyone said they weren't ready for primetime. Even they themselves
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at time weren't sure how they would do in this race.
And yet they made the call to go to Minnesota.
People criticize them for that, seems to be a smart play.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
Tonight.
Speaker 7 (11:26):
His last stop on this campaign was in Michigan. Seems
like it was a smart play.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
It's twenty sixteen all over again. I'm just telling you
that it's twenty sixteen all over again. The parallels are
beyond striking. How do you get hosting today? Glad you're here.
We'll get to our great texters eight five five for
zero five A two five five text dam five seven
seven three nine. We want to break with this id
and that is okay. What is your strongest piece of
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evidence that Donald Trump is going to win? It's kind
of a tie for me, and I'll get to it
in a second, but yours.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
It's the everyday conversations I'm having with Americans and people
across Colorado. They're ticked off, they want change, and they're
not buying into what the media is selling. So that
gives me confidence.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
And my list is very long, but let me give
you my top two. My top one one word Pennsylvania.
One word, and that's because and you saw it and
I think it's accurate. The political calculation this morning gives
him a forty six percent chance of winning the presidency,
but if Trump wins Pennsylvania, it goes to ninety six percent.
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And whether or not you agree with those particular numbers
Pennsylvania's key right. And I think that you've got Kamala Harris,
who is on record as opposed to fracking in her lies,
now saying oh, no, I didn't really mean it. Nobody's
buying that. And the fact that Trump has historically been
competitive in Pennsylvania wanted in sixteen, but the fact that
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he took a bullet for America there and his heroic
response to that happened in that state. I think it
creates a bond in Pennsylvania that's going to carry through
to election day.
Speaker 2 (13:08):
I agree with you, although I'm very nervous about them
pulling Waltz out and putting Shapiro in.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Why you just buzz kill?
Speaker 3 (13:16):
Who know that I'd be the buzzkill on this station,
But it just sits in the back of my mind, like, Oh,
I'm nervous. I'm nervous. I also think, you know, we're
going to.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
Talk to Jimmy about election integrity in a few minutes.
But they have not changed back any of those policies
that they put in place in Pennsylvania that allowed them
to drag the vote out so long. And Josh Shapiro
is a champion for most of those policies that make
it really tough on the win in Pennsylvania from that perspective.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
And next time, my long list of evidence, Heidi would
be working people, because this is all about the swing states, right,
and you look at all of the games Trump has
made for good reason with working people, and working people
are living the harm of the Biden administration. And in
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the end, just like sixteen, I think you're going to
see a massive turnout of working people for Donald Trump.
So I think that's another one. I want to get to.
This text Dan interesting about the police officer beating a criminal.
I agree with you. These criminals need to be beaten
or tossed aside, and then we'll get to the rest
of that text. Wait a second, that's not what I'm
saying when I talk about I said it repeatedly. I
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wanted to alert everybody to a viral video they're almost
certain to see this weekend of an African American New
York police officer whose female white partner has just been
brutalized and bloodied and is on the ground the victim
of a criminal who just happens to be African American,
and the video shows her African American partner pommeling and
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then pantsing the perpetrator. And I said repeatedly, I do
not condone illegal conduct. I said, the police officer is
going to be prosecuted. My point was, it will be
interesting to see how America reacts to this. And also
I look at that, and I don't know this police officer,
but as the son of a police officer, I believe
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that that we'll probably find out this officer who was
standing up for his partner, I was probably a very
good person who in that moment was just compelled to
stand up for his partner that way. So no, I'm
not condoning any legal conduct, but I would bet that
Americans across a lot of different lines rise up to
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support that police officer. FIK, have you seen the video yet?
Speaker 2 (15:46):
I did. I watched it on the break, and as
you take, yeah, I mean, part of me is just like, yeah,
let's stop, let's stop tolerating this crop and give our
officer some leeway, not necessarily to your point to do
anything illy. But I'm also I'm a daughter of a cop,
and we have that in common, and I know how
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passionate my dad is about law and order, about protecting
our country about protecting all of us, and so I'm
sure that let that officer up to see his partner
get beat up like that.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
Yeah, and again I can't condone anything illegal. He will
be fired, but I think you're going to see a
lot of support across America for him. And we'll talk
about that more Monday, after everybody's at a chance to
see the video.
Speaker 5 (16:30):
You I think I'll be fired, though, Dan, and especially
considering let's call this what it is, I think people
will have a very different reaction. I know I did
when I found out that his partner was female.
Speaker 1 (16:40):
Oh yeah, and when you see that video and you
see her just as either unconscious or completely stunned from
the brain injury, bloody face, I think an awful lot
of people are going to say, you know what, They're
going to have mixed emotions. Yeah, you can, you can't
beat suspects. But I think a lot of people are
going to be heartened that you see one partner standing
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up for the other, and the fact that happens across
racial lines, I think will be heartening to a lot
of people. There's going to be a guys, there's going
to be a powerful gut reaction to that video, right,
and what percentage do you think of Americans who see
that across party lines? Do you think it'll be positive
and supportive of the officer.
Speaker 3 (17:24):
Well, let's see, the Democrat base is about what forty percent?
So probably the other sixty?
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Yeah, yeah, eight five five or zero five A two
five five the number? Boy, So much good stuff ahead.
We're up against this break, Heidi ganol in studio. Will
we'll give you more and we'll go to the phone
lines next as well as our great texters. But want
to give you more solid, factual, logical reason to be
very optimistic that Trump's going to win. And also why
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the conventional wisdom about the debate that Harris is just
going to expose herself as a fool. Don't believe that
Trump can win big, but he's got to do it
a different way. You're on the Dan Kapla show.
Speaker 4 (18:10):
Taylor Swift fans are begging each other to vote for
Donald Trump.
Speaker 3 (18:15):
I kid you not, it's happening.
Speaker 4 (18:16):
Taylor Swift fans are begging each other to vote for
Donald Trump.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
After ISIS terrorists.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
ISIS terrorists, a terrorist organization that Donald Trump wiped out
during his presidency, have now re emerged, they've gained strength,
they've kind of reorganized, and they're threatening Taylor Swift concerts
in and around Europe and Vienna.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Five point thirty six. Glad you're here. Heidi Gonnall co
hosting the show today. We love that we got to
our fiery phone lines. In a second, Jimmy Sangenberger kind
to do a drop with us. He's been covering the
Tina Peters trial. Jimmy, welcome back to the show. Oh,
we don't have men. Well I just gave him a
big intro. So when he does a just pop him on.
(19:03):
Oh okay, so Kelly had to go to the bathroom
and is now dialing him late. Okay, better than dialing
him from the bathroom. I guess right. Okay, we've got Jimmy. Jimmy,
no big intro because I gave it when you weren't here.
How's that The Tina Peters trial going?
Speaker 6 (19:21):
Oh my goodness.
Speaker 8 (19:22):
Well, the defense rested and they were last I saw
until the feed cut out. They were arguing over jury instructions.
So we will see closing arguments and then the jury
going into deliberations on Monday.
Speaker 9 (19:36):
Wow.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Wow, So any predictions you know, I.
Speaker 8 (19:41):
Think the case is a really difficult one for the defense,
particularly because the case they put up didn't really have
much there there, I would say, particularly because in that
regard they were making all sorts of arguments that were
more I think we talk about this the other day,
related to ends justify the means types of arguments which
(20:04):
the judge already said were not admissible. Basically, it almost
became the case that Tina Peters was going to testify,
but she went on this whole thing about how she
wanted to have a specific type of scope, like actually
had a back and forth with the judge this morning
over what she would want to testify on that sort
(20:26):
of thing, and then ultimately claimed, I'm not going to
be able to make a defense, so I will not
go ahead and testify.
Speaker 1 (20:34):
Okay. So Tina Peters said this was an open court.
Apparently she wanted to take the stand if she could
testify to ABC and D. The judge said not a
and she did not testify.
Speaker 8 (20:44):
It yeah, in essence, and there was also limitations. There
are certain areas I don't want to go into, like
she wanted to constrain the prosecution in certain ways that
where you know, the judge was like, I can't exactly
do that. It depends on what up in the moment.
And ultimately the conclusion though that she reached was, Hey,
(21:05):
you're not going to let me prevent prevent the defense
that I want to, so I'm not going.
Speaker 1 (21:12):
To testify, Okay, okay.
Speaker 8 (21:15):
Fascinating and yeah, and the big thing here, Dan is
that if you look at the way in which they
approached the case, and I really talked about this in
my column today for the Denver Gazette, was consistently asking
witnesses during the during the prosecution's witnesses consistently asking them
questions that were irrelevant that weren't didn't have anything to
(21:38):
do with the chargers themselves, and were more about voting
machines and different things that in a pre trial order
the judge specifically had said, you can't address these. Well,
the judge allowed a lot of latitude in my view,
throughout this case to the defense, and ultimately so much
so that they were consistently violating the pre trial orders
(22:01):
and so forth, where the judge specifically even said today
threatened the possibility of contempt on the defense attorneys because
they kept going beyond what was permitted in the pre
trial order. When it comes to the actual case and
the facts of the matter, Jimmy.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
Really appreciate all your coverage, and folks who want to
go back see this column see prior columns. So at
the time the verdict, whichever way it goes, comes in,
they're more fully informed. Where should they go?
Speaker 8 (22:30):
Denver is at dot com great place to check that.
And of course I appreciate being on with you and
others where it I heard about the trial. And one
last thing I do want to say is that the
big thing that I think is a takeaway from this
case is that the defense resembles and has resembled throughout
this case and trial a dominion fishing expedition. That is
(22:53):
to say, they were trying to get particular things that
could be used in Mike Lindell's defamation case where he's
defending against dominion from February of twenty twenty one. And
there were even things stated by both by the attorneys
during both of the attorneys throughout the trial that indicated
exactly as much, including just one line I really want
(23:15):
to get in here, Dan, I can assure you following
the Trusted Bill, which is the software update that is
the crux of this. The effect was the deletion of
the records Key Lindell needed to defend the lawsuit. So
this to me was much more about Mike Lindell and
other cases going on around the country than defending Tina Peers.
(23:36):
Really fascinating as a devent.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
Jimmy, thank you, Thank you, appreciate all your work on this.
Thank you, And Jimmy, You'll be back with us for
the verdict for sure, Heidi, thoughts of any kind on
any issue, you know, I.
Speaker 9 (23:50):
Had.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
My heart goes out to Tina Peers. She's a gold
star mom and she's been through a lot, and I
believe her intentions were pure. She really wanted to protect
our country, to protect Colorado.
Speaker 1 (24:01):
So I have different.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Perspectives that I'm not going to deep dive on right now.
But one of the things that bothered me a little
bit about the coverage I saw in the case was
who gets to make decisions about what happens in the
audit process or the post election process. Is it the
Secretary of State's office or is it the clerk? Like
how much power does the clerk actually have? And what
(24:24):
bothers me about what Jenner Griswold has done is she's
taken a lot of the power away from the clerks
and put it back in the Secretary of State's office.
And I think we're going to see implications from that
going forward in future elections.
Speaker 1 (24:38):
Wow. And when it comes to Jenna Griswold, can you
imagine a worse person to have as Secretary of State
at a time like this where you look at the
polls and you got a whole big group of people
who have doubts about the integrity of the process. Personally,
I do not have doubts about the integrity of the
process in Colorado, but she seems to go out of
her way to create those doubts through her hyper partisan
(25:00):
Let's go to beautiful Larvada. Talk to Dean. You're on
with Dan Kaplis and Heidi Ganah. Welcome, Hey Dean, how
come we don't have any Dean Martin music on the show.
It's like one hundred years before my life. But he's
got some cool stuff. Hey, Dean.
Speaker 6 (25:18):
I have to tell people sometimes my name is Dean
Martin just so they can figure out my actual first
name is Dean because they think it's discontinued.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Oh what do they think your name is.
Speaker 6 (25:29):
I've been called bean lean. I mean's just crazy. I mean,
you know, you know of these young guys never heard
the word dean.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
I guess you didn't answer to dean when we called
you dean. Maybe that's the problem.
Speaker 6 (25:40):
So yes, yeah, no kidding. Hey, So here's what I
wanted to get to Dan, is I think if Democrats
tried to pull a wolf. I mean, this is going
to be a circus clowns show two point zero from
what they've already done. So I don't think they can
go down that road. That's just my opinion.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
Well play this out for how does that end up
hurting them? Because right off the bat biggest mistake in
modern American political history not putting Shapiro in there when
Pennsylvania's everything so they dump walls before they dump walls
at the convention, they put Shapiro in there. How does
that end up hurting them?
Speaker 6 (26:18):
I don't know, man, It just seems like the Democrats
kind look at each other like what are we doing here?
I mean, we just is this plug and play. We
just keep switching the batters out.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
When we need want right right, and Heidi, I respectfully
submit that Dean's right about what would happen in kind
of a sane world where there's fair reporting, because if
a Republican party did that, the media would be on
at twenty four to seven their clowns this and that.
But if the Democrats do it, they're going to get
praised for.
Speaker 3 (26:47):
It, that's absolutely right, and then cover it up.
Speaker 6 (26:49):
And is there any laws or rules for this?
Speaker 1 (26:52):
They make them up as they go along. Yeah, and
political parties can do that.
Speaker 6 (26:56):
Yeah, I guess it doesn't matter. Yeah, because they kicked
Biden it should be didn't like debate, so I guess
there is no rule.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
What's interesting is they were all hot to trot on
having us kick jd Vance out the first week or two.
Speaker 3 (27:10):
You got to replace JD's and he's doing great now.
Speaker 1 (27:13):
That's why they wanted to mount. Yeah, you're right, that's
a good point, Dan. Yeah, sorry, I didn't mean it interrupt,
Thank you, Dean. Why do people, at least me, Why
do people are always say that when they interrupt, Hey,
don't mean to interrupt, but you're interrupting.
Speaker 3 (27:29):
Don't know the answer.
Speaker 1 (27:30):
Sorry about that.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
You don't have to be sorry. This is your show,
and no, you're the master No, no, none of that.
Speaker 1 (27:37):
I see you know. Remind me to tell you the
story of getting fired here someday.
Speaker 9 (27:44):
What.
Speaker 1 (27:45):
Oh yeah, like Craig and I when we had our
great show for eight eight and a half years, and
believe me, every day of that was a privilege. We
had no right to be here any single day. Every
day was a gift, and we were very fortunate to
have what we had seven and a half or eight
years together. So total gratitude for having the opportunity. But
(28:06):
the day came when they weren't as excited about us anymore.
Speaker 3 (28:11):
Okay, it hurts my heart.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
No, it's the business. Are you kidding me? You just
you gotta be grateful for having the opportunity. And unless
this is a dream, I'm back here now.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
You're doing great.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
No, but I'm glad to be here with you, and
sorry to digress into that. We've got to hit this
hard break here. But when we come back, we'll go
back to our lines in text. But I want to
give you more reasons. I'm sure hewd he does too,
to believe, good solid analytical reasons that Trump is going
to win. And it's sixteen all over again. You're on
the Dan Kaplo show, and when we are.
Speaker 4 (28:49):
Singing happy tones and sing Merry Christmas and wish each
other Merry Christmas, these children are not going to have
them merry Christmas?
Speaker 3 (28:59):
How dare we speak merry Christmas?
Speaker 9 (29:01):
How dare we? So?
Speaker 1 (29:03):
I got this very long list of reasons to know
Trump is going to win, and that's on that list.
That has got to be number one and hard to believe.
There's stuff that's better but Heidig and all coasting today.
But we were talking during the break about Okay, President
Trump confirmed it yesterday. He's he's the campaign is pretty
(29:24):
much going to stay under the radar in August. Very
they'll be Montana tonight, but very little in the way
of public rallies, do some fundraising in Colorado tomorrow, and
then their plan is to unleash at the start of September,
after the Dumb Convention. So what do you make of
that plan?
Speaker 2 (29:41):
You know, Dan, I don't really know. I'm trying to
wrap my head around it. Maybe he's waiting for Kamala
to implode. Maybe he thinks that's not who he's really
going to end up running against. Maybe he's waiting to
see what Shenanigan's happened at the convention before he really
goes all in. But I also know that, and I
learned this the hard way from the Democrats is they
start spending their money.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
The minute ballots drop.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
And so perhaps he's taken a lesson from our dear
Governor Jared Poulas, who drops thirty million dollars in a heartbeat,
that you wait till the ballots drop, because nobody pays
attention until then.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Really, here's what I think's going on. What I think
is going on is a combination of things. And that
is that, Okay, given this unprecedented deposing of the democratically
elected Biden, an installation of Harris, and now the media,
you know, just just full bore Harris campaign, I think
(30:33):
they've concluded there is nothing they can do right now
through the convention, nothing they can do that will make
a difference. And critically, yeah, I'm saving money. I think
that's part of it. But critically, Heidi, I think what's
going on is they've got all this good stuff, right,
like the bite I just played. You play that on
a loop in the Swing States, you should win this race, right,
(30:54):
But I think they're afraid if they launched that too early,
it will be stale, it won't have impact by the time,
as you say, people are going to vote. So I
think a big part of it is wanting to keep
their best stuff fresh until they get into the stretch run.
Speaker 3 (31:11):
I think that's a good move. I do agree with that.
But back to my point about everyday people.
Speaker 2 (31:16):
I think us everyday people can can fight the battle
right now and talk about it. Be brave, post about it,
talk to our neighbors about it, get on the phone
with friends, be courageous.
Speaker 3 (31:27):
We've got one shot at this. We have eighty days
or so.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Left well, and especially people in the swing states. Right
and then if you got five bucks or whatever you got,
send it to the Trump campaign. Patrick and Pueblo. You're
on with Heidigenall and Dan Kaplis. Welcome.
Speaker 9 (31:40):
Patrick, Hello Dan, and hello Heidi. I hope you guys
all have your defund the polist t shirts and.
Speaker 1 (31:49):
Patrick created mine.
Speaker 3 (31:51):
I still have mine.
Speaker 8 (31:52):
I love it.
Speaker 9 (31:53):
Hey, I just wanted to say, I think Trump, you know,
the Democratic stronghold of Pueblo. I'm hearing way more Trump
voters than Nami anything else good, and so I think
he's going to win bigger than people are giving him
credit for one thing I'd like to do, hearing say
is on the drill, baby drill, Maybe follow it up
(32:13):
with and will use some of the profits to prop
up Social Security and medicare.
Speaker 1 (32:19):
Patrick appreciates the call. Glad to hear that anecdotelevidence, which
I do think really matters. And that's why I'm saying
it's twenty sixteen all over again, party like it's twenty sixteen.
I think the similarities are overwhelming, except Trump is in
a stronger position this time because Hillary Clinton. While I
think she would have been an awful president, Hillary Clinton
(32:40):
far superior to Kamala Harris, you know, far superior skills.
I think she's far superior intellectually. I think she's stronger,
far more accomplished. And believe me, she's Hillary Clinton one
of the last people I'd want as president. But Trump
beat her, and Trump now has all these accomplishments, and
(33:00):
I just think Trump's in a stronger position than sixteen Heidi,
what do you think about this? Texter says Dan. Less
than fifty percent of Americans are working class. We're rebutting
my point earlier that Trump is going to win because
of massive working person support. On election day. What about
this point that less than fifty percent now qualify as
(33:20):
quote working class.
Speaker 2 (33:22):
Well, all that matters is the five or six swing
states and what the makeup there is in Pennsylvania, Wisconsin.
Speaker 3 (33:28):
I amen, you know, Michigan, they are working people.
Speaker 1 (33:33):
Amen. Amen to that, And I think people are going
to turn out in record numbers. Texter says Dan, it's
frustrating to listen to you soft pedal when discussing the
Harris Walls ticket. Walts couldn't speak anymore obviously, like a
naked Marcus soft pedal. Where do you get soft pedal? Flareoffs, fireoffs. Yeah,
I mean we're the ones sitting here talking about wait
(33:54):
a second, he's so bad. He's so bad. Our problem
is they're going to remove him before the end of
the convention.
Speaker 3 (34:01):
That's right, Dan. I mean, that's what's going to keep
me up at night for the next couple of weeks.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Right, That and the very very very significant chance that
the Cabal makes sure Harris is actually president before election day.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
But you know what I was thinking about that maybe
that upsets women and makes them mad that she got
that without one vote.
Speaker 1 (34:20):
See, you'd have better insight into that than I would,
that's for sure. How do you thank you for being here?
Thank you for having me such a pleasure and so interesting. Brian,
You're the best, my friend. Have a great weekend. Don't
forget Ryan's tremendous show two to four each afternoon, Mountain Time,
six point thirty kh of w Denver, Kelly, Human Sunshine.
Enjoy your great weekend. Please join us Monday on the
(34:40):
Dan Kapla Show.
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