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August 21, 2024 34 mins
With Dan once again buried in depositions, Heidi Ganahl fills in along with Ryan to recap the second night of the 2024 Democratic National Convention, with KOA's Mandy Connell joining with a live report from Chicago.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
Good afternoon, Denver and the rest of Colorado. Is Heidi
ganal In for Dan Caplis. Dan maybe joining us, depending
on how his workload is going.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
I think he's deposing somebody. Isn't that exciting. I'd like
to know more about it.

Speaker 4 (00:27):
Well, I would want to be on the other end
of that.

Speaker 3 (00:28):
No, me, neither me, neither Ryan and Ryan. It's great
to be here with you.

Speaker 2 (00:33):
I love bantering back and forth with you, and boy
do we have a lot to talk about today.

Speaker 3 (00:37):
I think I want to lead with some pretty exciting news.

Speaker 2 (00:41):
If you want Donald Trump to be elected president, and
that is rumor is Robert Kennedy Junior is going to
drop out of the race on Friday and endorse Donald Trump.

Speaker 3 (00:51):
Is that what you're hearing?

Speaker 4 (00:52):
It's what I'm hearing. It's what's being reported.

Speaker 5 (00:54):
And I got an email notification, Heidi from the Kennedy
campaign announcing that press conference will be held in Phoenix,
Arizona on Friday, and there's an interesting coincidence along those lines.
Here's Fox News a little bit more. They were able
to catch up with former President Trump in Ashborough, North
Carolina while you.

Speaker 6 (01:13):
Were out on stage. There's reporting that RFK Junior is
going to drop out of the race by the end
of this week. Have you spoken to him in the
last twenty four hours.

Speaker 3 (01:22):
I haven't, but I respect him.

Speaker 7 (01:23):
I've respected him for a long time. I mean, I
know where he's coming from and it's a little different philosophy.
Very smart guy, however, and I had heard who was
thinking about it for a period of time. But no,
I have not heard this. What you're telling me.

Speaker 6 (01:37):
He's going to be in Arizona on Friday. Would you
have him on stage with you at your rally?

Speaker 7 (01:41):
Well, I think I'm going to be there on Friday.

Speaker 4 (01:43):
We have a big crowd.

Speaker 7 (01:44):
I would always be honored to I mean, if he
endorsed me, would I be honored by that?

Speaker 8 (01:48):
Absolutely?

Speaker 2 (01:49):
Wow, that's great news if you are interested in seeing
Donald Trump as the next president. Ryan actually got to
know Robert Kennedy Junior a bit when I was a
regent at the Universe if Colorado, we held a debate
on the moral case for fossil fuels between Bobby Kennedy
Junior and Alex Epstein.

Speaker 3 (02:08):
Oh, it was awesome.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
We had a packed house, probably a thousand people showed
up for it. It was part of a project called
the Free to Be Coalition, where we were trying to
model for young people how to debate in a productive
and collaborative way, a feisty way, but still be civil
to each other.

Speaker 3 (02:24):
And he was such a gentleman. We had such a
good time.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
We got to spend a couple of days talking and
chatting and getting to know each other a bit. Our
team and him, and I was really impressed, and the
conversation did veer off into vaccinations and our healthcare system
and all of.

Speaker 3 (02:39):
Those other things.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
It's on YouTube still it's pretty fun to watch. But
I think it would be wonderful to hear me out
here to put him in charge of the CIA, who
he thinks killed his father.

Speaker 4 (02:53):
Interesting.

Speaker 5 (02:54):
Yes, there's definitely a cabinet post I think to be negotiated.
And for Nicole Shanahan, I'm not sure she might have
a role. You know, Trump administration as well, But this
is all the Democrats own doing Heidi. They have made
this mess for themselves, first by shutting him out. RFK
a lifelong Democrat, his name is synonymous with the modern

(03:15):
Democratic Party, with his uncle and his father of course,
and his other uncle ted. But then also the treatment
of both Kennedy and Shanahan by the DNC has been atrocious.

Speaker 4 (03:26):
They've been underhanded.

Speaker 5 (03:28):
Shanahan mentioned that they've been the driving force behind trying
to get RFK removed from the New York ballot, and
there's a lot of animates there. Whereas the RNC and
Donald Trump, they have not waited into those waters. They
have been respectful of the Kennedy Shanahan campaign and that
might bear fruit on Friday.

Speaker 2 (03:45):
And I believe it's probably a two to three point
offering that comes along with that. What do you think
how much of a bump does he get if RFK
Junior comes on board.

Speaker 4 (03:54):
I don't think it's a zero sum.

Speaker 5 (03:55):
In other words, rfk's voters they might have been RFK
or nobody at all, or RFK, but I was between
RFK and Biden, or between RFK and Harris. There's no
way I would ever vote for Trump. So RFK might
have been their off ramp. However, especially in the upper
Midwest states of Wisconsin and Michigan, what we've seen in
the polling is that when it goes from head to
head two candidates to the five and the other two

(04:18):
being Cornell Wes jill Stein, we've seen Kennedy take slightly
more away from Trump than from Harris in those two
very important states Wisconsin Michigan. So to your point, I
think I Kennedy drops out endorses Trump, it can only
help Donald Trump.

Speaker 4 (04:33):
It will only galvanize that coalition.

Speaker 5 (04:37):
And I don't think there will be more that would
defect over to Harris if they know the candidate they support,
Robert F. Kennedy Junior is locksteup with Donald Trump and
the rest of this race.

Speaker 2 (04:46):
Well, And another point, Ryan, does this help offset the
bump that Kamala is going to get from the DNC
and Obama's cheering.

Speaker 3 (04:54):
For I mean, that was a terrible I did not
like that speech last night. I know a lot of
people did, but I.

Speaker 2 (04:59):
Thought Michelle and Barack we're very disrespectful, very mean spirited,
and did not did not at all want to bring
people together or you know, bring unity among Americans with
that speech, to those speeches.

Speaker 4 (05:10):
When they go low, we go hi.

Speaker 5 (05:12):
Michellez told us right now, I was telling Kelly, I
thought Barack had lost his fastball a little bit. He
wasn't kind of pitch perfect the way we were accustomed.

Speaker 4 (05:21):
To him being.

Speaker 5 (05:23):
You're right, I think he was petty in a way.
I think there was that petty feel and notion to
how they referenced Donald Trump. There was much more bashing
of him than supporting or trying to define which needs
to be done Kamala Harris and why she's the preferential alternative.
I don't think you can run on Orange Man bad
this time around. Maybe in twenty twenty that worked to

(05:44):
a large extent because of the George Floyd thing and
because of COVID. I don't think that's going to work
this time around, not to the degree that they're going
to need it to to push Kamala Harris across the
finish line.

Speaker 2 (05:55):
Well, where was Kamala Harris last night? Why wasn't she there?
I don't think Tim Waltz was there either, was he No?

Speaker 5 (06:01):
And the reporting from Jackie Heinrich of Fox News is
there is a fissure, and it's sizable between Team Biden
and Team Obama, with Kamala Harris kind of caught in between.
So she figured as a sign of respect to Joe Biden,
who was furious at the Obama still, and that's been
reported by multiple sources. They did a little pit stop
in I think Milwaukee. They were in Wisconsin, both Harris

(06:24):
and Walls during the Obama speech. Is the reason given
was that they did not want to disrespect Joe Biden
and inflame those tensions by being present for the speeches
by the Obama So, yeah, that's a party that's really
unified right now.

Speaker 2 (06:36):
And yeah, I'm sure Harris is really worried about offending
Joe Biden at this point. It doesn't seem like she
gives a hoot.

Speaker 5 (06:44):
Well, it might be just for appearances, Heidi, You might
be right on that front, that she's just trying to
kind of hold this coalition together. I believe it is,
you know, kind of borrowing from her phrase, you know, democracy.

Speaker 3 (06:55):
Is so strong and yet so fragile.

Speaker 5 (06:58):
I think the Democratic Party fragile right now, no matter
what show they're putting on. And John Legend's going to
sing tonight, and Bill Clinton's gonna be back and he's
gonna speak tonight, and we know you can do that
impression so well. But they're they're they're giving this show.
But Heidi to me and maybe you agree, that's all
it is. To me, it's a show. We know what's
going on behind the scenes. This is not what you

(07:20):
saw what you experienced at the RNC and Milwaukee. It's
not even close.

Speaker 2 (07:23):
Oh, that was such an incredible experience. And I want
to I want to talk about one more comment that
Michelle makes before we go to break and it's clip
number eight.

Speaker 3 (07:31):
If you can tee that up. Oh, this is vicious.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
And she has how many multimillion dollar homes? I think
they have four crazy expensive homes around the country, one
in Hawaii, one in Hampton's.

Speaker 3 (07:42):
I can't remember where the others are, but check this
clip out.

Speaker 9 (07:45):
My mom, in her steady, quiet way, lived out that
striving sense of hope every single day of her life.
She believed that all children, all all people, have value,
that anyone can succeed have given the opportunity. She and

(08:07):
my father didn't aspire to be wealthy. In fact, they
were suspicious of folks who took more than they needed.
They understood that it wasn't enough for their kids to
thrive if everyone else around us was drowning.

Speaker 2 (08:26):
I have to say, you know, I think capitalism and
free markets are the number one way to turn around poverty.

Speaker 3 (08:33):
In the history of man. Is that correct?

Speaker 2 (08:35):
I mean, don't you don't bad mouth the way that
we lift people up in America and that people want
to strive for better. They want to do big things,
they want to have nice houses.

Speaker 3 (08:45):
And I don't think it's all about money. I'm an entrepreneur.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
It was about creating something really cool and giving people
jobs and creating a business that solved a problem. That's
what I think the American dream is. And she's really
disrespecting it there.

Speaker 4 (09:00):
Well, it just amuses me. You know.

Speaker 5 (09:02):
We saw it last night too, with the juxtaposition of
Bernie Sanders.

Speaker 4 (09:05):
Reeling against billionaires.

Speaker 5 (09:07):
But he doesn't say millionaires anymore because he is a millionaire,
because he made money through capitalism, through books that he wrote,
through the grift that he was able to execute in
the twenty sixteen to twenty twenty campaigns.

Speaker 4 (09:17):
These people are fraudulent, Heidi.

Speaker 5 (09:19):
I mean, to a large degree, they have made money
off this system. By railing against that very system, and
I don't know how they fool people, but they do.

Speaker 3 (09:27):
They do.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
And when we come back, we're going to go to
a break. We're going to have Manny Connell like from
the DNC. How exciting is that going to be? And
we're going to talk to Britta Horne later on with
the call about the Colorader GOP situation. But we've got
seventy five days to go to the election. So this
is Heidi Ganal filling in for Dan Kaplis. We'll see
after the break.

Speaker 4 (09:47):
And now back to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.

Speaker 10 (09:50):
Some breaking news into SCENEI writer, now, the job growth
has been far weaker in the US and originally reported.
That is according to new data just coming in this morning.
Let's get right to see. That's Matt Egan. What's the headline,
Matt Jim.

Speaker 11 (10:03):
Eight hundred and eighteen thousand fewer jobs were added during
the period between April twenty twenty three and March of
this year. We were bracing for these revisions to come
out and show that job growth was weaker, and.

Speaker 4 (10:18):
That is what we got. This is probably on the high.

Speaker 11 (10:21):
End of the expectations. Some of the forecasters had been
saying probably around a few hundred thousand jobs. Goldmen Sex
had said maybe up to a million, So this is
on the higher end. We're seeing some of the biggest
revisions downward in sectors that include manufacturing, leisure and hospitality,
professional and business services.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
Ryan, that is unbelievable, like that is a huge, huge issue.

Speaker 3 (10:47):
For the economy.

Speaker 2 (10:47):
Eight hundred and eighteen thousand jobs all in the private sector,
and the worst part of it is that most of
the jobs that have increased are government jobs in the
past year or more, and that it's just a dead
weight on the American economy.

Speaker 3 (11:02):
It's bad news. It's more government bureaucracy running our lives.

Speaker 6 (11:06):
It is.

Speaker 5 (11:07):
And eight hundred and eighteen thousand, I mean, that's no
drop on the bucket that totally changes the narrative or
the perception of what this Biden economy has done or
pretended to do, or they've tried to champion that it does.
At the DNC this week, adding on to your point
about them being government jobs the ones that have grown,
that is true, but there's also talk that jobs for

(11:27):
illegals are a big part of any number that Joe
Biden might put out there, because they're coming across the border,
they're not being vetted, they're not being paid as much
as an American citizen would have to be paid, and
that is kind of the path at least resistance now
for a lot of people that might be hiring out there.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
And speaking of illegals, I saw that our least favorite governor,
Gavin Newsom, Well maybe poll Us is up there, but
in California, the State Senate Committee has approved illegal immigrants
having zero down payment and zero interest on new homes,
and it looks like it's going to fly through and
get signed by Gavin Newsom.

Speaker 5 (12:04):
I mean, if you were trying to ruin California, what
would you be doing differently than Gavin Newsom right now?

Speaker 3 (12:10):
Not a darn thing. And unfortunately Polus.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
Is following his lead and doing most of it here
in Colorado. Talk about bureaucracy, one of the things that
I talked a lot about on the governors in the
governor's race was the growth of bureaucracy here in Colorado
and the size of government. And for pretending to be
a libertarian, freedom loving guy, I think he's done exactly
the opposite. Back a couple of years ago, he'd grown

(12:34):
the government by a third or fourth, I guess it was.
It's probably a third by now, but nothing good comes
of growing our government bureaucracy by that much and just
letting the free market do its thing and let private jobs,
the private sector take care of a lot of what
the government can do very inefficiently.

Speaker 5 (12:52):
I think one of the greatest ruses I've seen in
America politics, Heidi was in your race and for Jared
Polis to be presented as what you just described a
libertarian and name only, he's a Lino. I mean, this
guy is not in any way shape manner form libertarian.
Like you said, bigger government, that's not libertarian principles. And
then during COVID, if you had libertarian principles, you're not

(13:14):
telling people to wear a damn mask, or calling them
selfish bastards, or trying to shut down churches while pot
shops stay open.

Speaker 4 (13:20):
I mean, there's so many things you can point to.

Speaker 5 (13:23):
Jared Paulus tries to pull off this charade, and he
goes on Fox News, He'll be speaking tonight at the DNC,
and I'll be curious to see what he says. But
what he says in what he does are two very
different things. And we've seen that play out here in Colorado,
and boy has it changed our state. I'm just I
get so heartsick when I see what's happening with crime
and fentanyl.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
We're sponsoring as showing up in Fort Morgan of Devastated,
the movie about fentanyl right this weekend. And it's a
really important issue to keep on the front lines of
our conversations about our state and what's happening. And it
ties directly to the border and what's happening with illegal immigration.

Speaker 3 (13:59):
In the city of Denver.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
We've talked about the Venezuelan gang problem here that Kyle
Clark and his buddies.

Speaker 3 (14:05):
Don't want to admit.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
But our lovely Aurora City Councilwoman Danielle Zirinsky is keeping
everyone on their toes and keeping the truth out there
about what's happening with that.

Speaker 3 (14:15):
Brian. We've got seventy five.

Speaker 2 (14:16):
Days to go until the election, the really, really and
I'm not going to say the most important election ever,
but I'm going to say it's a really important election
for this country and for the future of America. And
we've got two really congressional races here in Colorado. You
know CD four, Lauren's gonna knock it out of the park.

Speaker 3 (14:34):
Sh'll win that.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
Jeff crank down in CD five, he's he's pretty much
a lock.

Speaker 3 (14:38):
He's a good guy. He'll do a really good job
and represent us well.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
But we've got CD eight, which gave Evans is running
against Yadire Caraveo, and she didn't even bother to go
to the DNC.

Speaker 5 (14:49):
Oh No, she's stayed far far away from Chicago. Like
three senators are also doing. Senator John Tester from Montana,
who's probably going to lose, Senator Jackie Rosen Nevada, isn't
about self? And Senator Shared Brown, Ohio. None of them
going to the DNC. Why not, Heidi? Why not?

Speaker 2 (15:06):
It's such a it's such a good representation of the
party and their principles.

Speaker 3 (15:09):
Why wouldn't they want to be a.

Speaker 4 (15:10):
Part of it? Think, yeah, be proud right well?

Speaker 2 (15:12):
And Ya Darro also voted with Republicans to condemn what's
happening at the border.

Speaker 3 (15:17):
What was that a month ago?

Speaker 4 (15:19):
This is sheer desperation.

Speaker 5 (15:20):
I'm glad you brought that up, Heidi, because I had
that conversation with Gabe Evans.

Speaker 4 (15:24):
I think he senses.

Speaker 5 (15:25):
Politically now, I want to make sure we're always figurative
that there's blood in the water, that there's a reason
why she is panicking. She's not going to the DNC.
She voted Republicans, like you said, on that issue. She
knows she's in trouble in CD eight. And Gabe Evans
is a spectacular young candidate, up and coming Republican here
in Colorado.

Speaker 2 (15:43):
But I'll tell you what, Ryan, he needs money to
get the job done. I mean, we're up against millions
and millions of dollars that are going to They're going
to drop ads attacking Gabe the minute the balance drop.

Speaker 3 (15:53):
So I know Gabe.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
Knows that's coming, but he needs all the help he
can get, and I just I strongly suggests people get
behind Gabe.

Speaker 3 (16:01):
Also, also, we've got to help.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
Jeff Hurd in Congressional District three, which is Pueblo, the
western slope up to Grand Junction.

Speaker 3 (16:08):
Could not be more important to protect that seat.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
Especially if Donald Trump gets elected and he doesn't have
the House with him, it's going to be bad times.
It's going to be a bad four years.

Speaker 5 (16:21):
That'd be a bad two years for sure, because we
know the first thing that the House is going to
do under a speaker a keen Jefferies, which that's what
we'd be looking at, is probably going to be trying
to in some way impeach Donald Trump or try to
remove him from office, try to obstruct him and his agenda.
There's only one clear path I think here, heiding. I
believe it's an achievable one, and that is Donald Trump

(16:42):
wins the Republicans take the Senate, which I think is
very likely because West Virginia is going to flip and
Montana looks like Tim Sheety's going to win that. Right,
there is the ballgame in the Senate. The House is
a murcier deal. It's harder to predict. Like you said,
you know, the eighth district here in Colorado is a
literal coin flip, and the third is tough Adam Frish,
He's got a lot of money behind him. He nearly

(17:03):
upset Lauren Bobert in the last election time around. So
you're right, these are very important congressional races here in
our state.

Speaker 3 (17:11):
Well, one thing we could talk to Britta Horn about.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
She lives in Route County, so she understands kind of
the western slope the attitude of the voters there. And
one thing I'm hearing from the groups that we help
out on the Road to Red Project is that there's
a big split with the Ron Hanks and Stephen Varilla
folks that supported them in the primary and Jeff Herds folks.
And I'm really really concerned that we're not going to

(17:34):
show up to vote.

Speaker 3 (17:35):
Republicans aren't going to show up to vote because.

Speaker 2 (17:37):
They didn't get their candidate, and it's going to be
bad news.

Speaker 3 (17:41):
We need ninety nine to.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
One hundred percent of Republicans to show up in that
district to vote, to donate to work for Jeff Heard's campaign,
to help him go up against the Hollywood money. This
is Heidigan All. I'm filling in for Dan Kaplis. Hopefully
Dan's going to be able to join us by the
end of the show. Looking forward to having Andy Connell
on the show right after this to hear about what's

(18:03):
up at the Crazy DNC.

Speaker 4 (18:22):
You're listening to the Dan Capless Show podcast.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
This is Heidi Gall filling in for Dan Capless, and
I'm really excited to get some inside scoop from our
friend Mandy Connall. Ryan, are you excited to hear the
infamous Mandy Connall tell us about the DNC scupamous.

Speaker 4 (18:37):
She's at an infamous site, that's for sure, Mandy.

Speaker 3 (18:41):
It's so good to talk to you.

Speaker 12 (18:43):
I am here in the middle of the madness. Today
is the first day that it has just like the
media area where I am right now has.

Speaker 8 (18:51):
Exploded with people.

Speaker 12 (18:54):
And behind me, I've got Stacy Abram's doing an interview,
and then behind her we have Charlemagne the Gods Show
getting ready to tape an episode or a podcast. He's
getting ready to tape the podcast and people are milling about.

Speaker 8 (19:09):
It is insanity in here today.

Speaker 12 (19:11):
And honestly, this is the first day that it's been
this busy, and it's crazy in here.

Speaker 3 (19:15):
Today, Mandy. Why do you think are people just getting there?

Speaker 9 (19:18):
Is?

Speaker 3 (19:19):
I mean, they didn't show up for the Obamas last night, so.

Speaker 8 (19:22):
That's kind of what I was thinking to Heidi.

Speaker 12 (19:24):
I'm not gonna lie, but I think a lot of
people made their plans before the speaker schedule was announced,
and I don't think anybody really thought that they would
put Bill Clinton tonight and not the Obama's you know
what I mean, I don't, I don't. I don't think
anybody really thought that was gonna happen.

Speaker 8 (19:38):
But that's what we have.

Speaker 12 (19:39):
Tonight is kind of a night from what I've seen
so far, and they've not released the final speaker schedule,
but it has Nancy Pelosi, it has Pete boodhage Edge,
it has Bill Clinton, it has uh, you know, kind
of the old guard and some of the rising stars
coming up tonight. So it's gonna be very interesting to

(20:00):
see what kind of message they bring to the table,
because last night the message was all about painting a
vision of the future, but only if Donald Trump was
elected president.

Speaker 8 (20:09):
It was going to be a horrible, horrible and tonight
it's supposed to be about freedom.

Speaker 12 (20:15):
So in irony of ironies, they seem to be just
taking all the Republican talking points and adopting them as
their own.

Speaker 2 (20:22):
Oh my gosh, freedom, give me a break. Maybe we
had a great time at the RNC convention. You were there,
I was there, my dad was there. You had us
on the show. Is such such a great time. What
is the difference, Like, what's the difference in the vibe
and the speakers, in the in the setup, the.

Speaker 8 (20:41):
Setup is actually I kind of like it.

Speaker 12 (20:44):
Better and worse. And hear me out inside the United Center.
The setup is pretty spectacular. This is a much bigger
venue than the one that we had in Milwaukee, so
there's a lot more space and we didn't have to
be in a separate building like we did in Milwaukee.
But I'm keeping score of what you know, and contrasting
the two conventions and whereas the RNC, I think, in

(21:05):
my opinion, and maybe they were singing my song, so
that's why I like them better. I loved the everyday
people that were mixed into the conversation and the speeches.
Here it's politicians, it's union leaders, it's people that are
in charge rather than kind of normal people. And I
thought that was really effective at the RNC, and I
kind of thought that the DNC would adopt that, right, like,

(21:28):
bring a little more of that into this, But so
far it is like heavy hitter politician, heavy hitter politician,
union leader, you know, maybe a random influencer here or there.

Speaker 8 (21:40):
So the speaker wise, I have not.

Speaker 12 (21:42):
Been that impressed with kind of the filler speakers, but
the main speakers. I mean, come on, you've got three
former presidents speaking at this event. Well, okay, one's not
a former, but he feels like a former he's still
in office. I mean, those are some heavy hitters. Like,
regardless of your party, you're like, dang, they got three.
But overall, I feel like the speakers at the RNC

(22:03):
did a better job of communicating division of the Republican
Party to a normal person. Right, We're hearing a lot
about normal people here, but we're not necessarily seeing a
lot of normal people on stage.

Speaker 8 (22:15):
But boy, there's a lot of normal people here in
the crowd for sure.

Speaker 2 (22:18):
Okay, Manny, how many people are taking up their offer
to do abortions and vasectomies out in that trailer out front.

Speaker 3 (22:23):
That is just bizarre.

Speaker 12 (22:25):
I think that is the most morbid and gross and
discussing thing I've ever heard. I thought it was a
joke when it was mentioned, but as of yesterday, I
guess there'd been like thirty people to take them up
on an offer of either a medical abortion or.

Speaker 8 (22:44):
Of a sectimy.

Speaker 12 (22:45):
And I'm thinking to myself, like, this is like getting
a tattoo on spring break, you know, except you can
remove a tattoo. And I think this is just like
incredibly bad decision making all the way across the board.

Speaker 8 (22:56):
This is just gross.

Speaker 3 (22:58):
Yeah, it's terrific.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
Maybe what about RFK Junior dropping out and potentially endorsing Trump.

Speaker 3 (23:04):
Is anybody talking about that today? Is there a buzz.

Speaker 12 (23:08):
Yeah, among the media, among the media. You know, we
were in the media Gaggo earlier and a lot of
people in the media were talking about it, kind of
starting to analyze whether that is a positive that they
need to worry about for Trump. I'm not sure, and
I don't know if you talked about this earlier, but
I'm not sure how much of a positive it is
because I think a lot of RFK Junior's people went

(23:31):
to him because they did not like either choice. So
I'm not sure how much of that, If there is
an endorsement, how much of an impact that has. But
if we're talking about small margins in swing states, they
could have a big effec where We're gonna have to
wait and see what happens on Friday, I guess is
when this announcement was happening, and see what that means

(23:51):
going forward.

Speaker 2 (23:53):
So maybe you've had a chance to talk to some
of the Colorado delegation, Hick and Looper Polis. I'm not
sure who else you spoke which I think you spoke
to Bennett, But how's that going.

Speaker 3 (24:02):
What's their role there?

Speaker 8 (24:05):
Well, I'm just going to be honest.

Speaker 12 (24:06):
I think that Governor Jared Poulis, it was like the
pain on his face having to talk.

Speaker 8 (24:11):
To me was obvious.

Speaker 12 (24:13):
But he's going to He's speaking tonight and he said,
I said, well, what are you going to talk about it?
He said, well, I'm gonna endorse Harris and Walls and
I was like, okay, we all know you're going to
do that. He was very tight lipped about what he's
actually going to talk about. But word on the street
is that immigration is going to be a topic of
conversation tonight and that they're going to be talking about

(24:33):
voter security. And that's a little frustrating for me because
I think that Mitch McConnell trying to kind of background
deal that was never going to get passed has really
given the Democrats a strong talking point for maybe less
educated voters who don't know about HR two and god knows,
the media won't cover HR two and the fact that

(24:53):
it was passed well before anything else and the Senate
just refused to take it up. So I think that's
an attack point that's going to work. I'm interested to
see how they kind of co opt that argument tonight
during these speeches.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
What about our two senators Hickenlooper and Bennett, what's their
role there.

Speaker 12 (25:09):
I actually had a lovely chat with both of them,
surprisingly good. John Hickenlooper is out there talking about working
across the aisle and saying, look, we've all got to
recognize that to make good policy, we may not get that,
we all may not get what we want right. But

(25:29):
he was genuine. This is something he's been talking about
for a long time. I don't know how much poll
he has in the US Senate to make it happen,
but it was kind of a refreshing conversation.

Speaker 8 (25:39):
I did point out that, you know, maybe the issue is.

Speaker 12 (25:41):
That it seems like democrats solution is always more government.
And then Michael Bennett said we need a new agency
to manage technology.

Speaker 8 (25:49):
I'm like, no, no more agencies.

Speaker 12 (25:52):
He then asked me what agency we could get rid
of in exchange it. I immediately said the IRS, and
he did not take me up on it.

Speaker 3 (26:00):
Oh, that would be fine, or the Department of Education.
I think we can do better.

Speaker 12 (26:03):
Yeah exactly, but yeah, they're just glad handing right now.
They're just here supporting the team. Neither of them is speaking. Obviously,
we are no longer a swing state, so their role
at the conventions is greatly reduced as people who are
either rising stars in the party or from swing states
are really getting the bulk of the time. Right now,

(26:25):
Corey Booker is speaking from New Jersey, often considered to
be a rising star, so he just finished up his comments.
Hopefully they can stay on track tonight and be on time.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
Well, I have a really important question. How's the food?

Speaker 12 (26:40):
Oh my god, Heidi Aaron Knight are having a culinary
adventure around Chicago.

Speaker 8 (26:45):
So it's gone like this, Okay.

Speaker 12 (26:47):
We started the first night we found a place Carsons,
ribs and stakes and went there and it was incredible.
And then the night after that we went and got
thin crushed Chicago pizza because Aaron and I like the
thin crest better than the deep dish. I realized that's
blasphemy for some people, but Chicago thin crust people is magic.
And I had a pizza I'm gonna dream about. I'm

(27:08):
going to have dreams about it. It's gonna haunt me.
And then last night we had Italian beef, the big sandwiches.
We just had a Chicago dog to hold us over,
and tonight we're going to a steakhouse.

Speaker 3 (27:19):
Oh my goodness. Okay, what do you think for a dessert?
What's topping all this up?

Speaker 8 (27:24):
You know what?

Speaker 12 (27:25):
I skipped dessert because you know, I'm trying to watch
my girlish figure. But Aaron had a delicious brownie Sunday
the other night that I then commandeered.

Speaker 8 (27:34):
A couple bites of.

Speaker 1 (27:35):
Oh wow.

Speaker 8 (27:35):
So we're thoroughly enjoying Chicago.

Speaker 12 (27:37):
And tomorrow we've got a shorter show because baseball cramps
is So we're going to go see the Bean and
the Navy Pier and do a little sight seeing while
we can before we come home on Thursday night.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
Well, we're so glad you're there representing and giving us
a different perspective than CNN and all of the liberal media,
and just have an incredible time.

Speaker 5 (27:56):
Eat.

Speaker 3 (27:57):
I don't know what i'd like. A hot dog. I
guess it's Chicago hot dog would be my favorite.

Speaker 8 (28:01):
Gir Well, I just had one that was like a
magic It was magic in my mouth. It was so delicious.

Speaker 3 (28:07):
Thanks Mandy.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
Will you have a great time and we will catch
it later and look forward to hearing lots of great
stories when you get back in town.

Speaker 8 (28:14):
All right, Thanks, Hi, you talked to you soon.

Speaker 2 (28:16):
All right, This is Heidigan All filling in for Dan Kaplis.
Hopefully Dan can join us before the end of the show.
But lots more to talk about, including having my friend
Britta Horn on to talk about the drama here in
Colorado with the GOP.

Speaker 4 (28:30):
And now back to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.

Speaker 10 (28:33):
Miss Harris pitches are twenty eight percent rate is merely
punishing big companies.

Speaker 4 (28:37):
But economists of all.

Speaker 10 (28:38):
Strikes agree that US workers pay for higher corporate taxes
in lower wages, and I would argue also in higher
prices because it's passed on to them.

Speaker 4 (28:49):
Past commed.

Speaker 13 (28:49):
Well, again, I disagree with the frame of she's not
trying to punish big companies. I think Democrats and Kamala
Harris we love big, small, you name it. I mean
companies are providing valuable services to the American people should
be able to succeed. Look, originally, Kamala Harris's position before
had been let the Trump tax cuts expire. She's coming
to the center and moderations.

Speaker 4 (29:09):
She's now saying, let's keep some of.

Speaker 13 (29:10):
Those tax cuts and actually double down and expand them
for the middle class. If the tax cuts expired for corporations,
we would go to thirty four percent. Years ago, she
had said she's for that. She's now really come to
the center pro growth. She said, you know what, We're
going to keep some of those tax cuts and we're
going to double down and do more.

Speaker 2 (29:27):
Jared, communism is not moderate. Communism is not the center.
I know you like to make people think it is.
And that's how you govern by growing government here in
Colorado and driving up property taxes and making us a
sanctuary state, and mandating vaccines and destroying the oil and
gas industry and agriculture and hunting in our Second Amendment rights.

Speaker 3 (29:46):
That is nothing about that is moderate.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
And I can see why you like Kamala's communism approach
because you do it just with a smile on your
face and by faking out the voters here. So that
just peeves me, peeves me.

Speaker 3 (30:01):
Ryan to hear that.

Speaker 5 (30:02):
Clip, well, it confuses me too, because here's the rest
of it. And the Fox News crew were just as
confused as I was, Like, where is he getting this
information about Kamala Harris's policy plans.

Speaker 2 (30:13):
It's given us more detail than she has.

Speaker 4 (30:15):
Well, that's why I got it from her website.

Speaker 13 (30:17):
So that's those are those are her points and we're
talking about them here absolutely the plan from last week.

Speaker 4 (30:22):
So checking it this morning, you couldn't find it last week.
Thank you here to see good to see it. So
first he says that he got it from her website.

Speaker 5 (30:30):
There's nothing on her website other than meet Tim Walls
and meet Kamala Harris and give us money.

Speaker 4 (30:35):
That's it.

Speaker 5 (30:36):
There's two biographies and there's a donation button.

Speaker 4 (30:39):
That's it. I've been to the website many times. There's
no policies.

Speaker 5 (30:42):
So then he referred to it, Oh, I meant her
policy statement last friday, So which one is it's Heidi?

Speaker 3 (30:47):
Oh my gosh. Okay.

Speaker 2 (30:49):
We're so sure that there's not anything on her website
that Trump's campaign actually launched a website for her today.

Speaker 3 (30:55):
Did you see this? That's amazing a policy website.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
It details all of her policies since she wouldn't do
it go it's called it's Kamala twenty twenty four policies
dot com. Kamala twenty twenty four policies dot com. We're
gonna have to check it out on a break and
come up with some real well it's good stuff on there.

Speaker 5 (31:12):
This fits in you've run campaign's Heidi, And if Jared
Poulis had decided to run and hide, which he did
a little bit, but let's say entirely didn't have any
policies for whatever reason, then I think it would be
incumbent upon you as his challenging Go okay, then I'm
going to define your policies based on things that you've said,
things that are on video, things that we know that
you've stood for, and go ahead and define her for

(31:33):
her and beat her to the punch.

Speaker 4 (31:35):
I think that's genius what you just referenced there.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
Well, and I like to call Jared Poulis our gaslight governor,
and he's trying to teach Kamala.

Speaker 3 (31:43):
His wiie ways. Oh ah, that's terrible. I mean, it
could have been worse.

Speaker 2 (31:48):
He could have been the vice president candidate, but then
he wouldn't be in Colorado, which is I guess better
in a way.

Speaker 3 (31:53):
But good lord, oh, the world has gone mad.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
But it is a lot of fun to hear me
talk about the DNC after we were there together at
the RNC and see the shifts, and I agree with her.
One of my favorite things was all the everyday Americans
said they called them that were on stage, and the
stories and the tears, the laughs. I mean, it was
just incredible to hear from these Americans.

Speaker 3 (32:18):
My favorite one was the World War Two veteran. Yeah,
I think he was ninety eight.

Speaker 4 (32:25):
Right up there. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (32:26):
Do you remember when.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
He said if Donald Trump gets elected, I will reenlist.

Speaker 4 (32:31):
That was right, and I believe him.

Speaker 3 (32:32):
That was amazing.

Speaker 4 (32:34):
Well, and there's two now.

Speaker 5 (32:35):
Mandy's been to both, and I talked to her earlier
about this, but there's such a lack in my view, Heidi,
and I know I'm biased, I'll readily admit that, but truthfully,
in genuine authenticity and enthusiasm, I think there's the sugar
high continues into the convention. They're not really that excited
about Kamala other than she's not Joe Biden. You've got

(32:56):
all these speakers coming in getting out. Biden's no longer there.
The Obamas have left, you know, they haven't coalesced the
way that you saw a first hand at the Republican
Convention right after Donald Trump had been shot.

Speaker 4 (33:08):
The unity on that floor was real.

Speaker 5 (33:11):
Everybody stayed for every speaker in all four days. You
mentioned that the common men and women who spoke, and
they were so powerful.

Speaker 4 (33:18):
Just a totally different feel of that convention in my view.

Speaker 3 (33:21):
Well, it says it all, doesn't it.

Speaker 2 (33:23):
I mean Trump is the candidate for the everyday people
of America, and I think we're going.

Speaker 3 (33:28):
To see that at the ballot box.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
I mean, Dan has been very optimistic about Trump's chances,
and he's gotten me turned around a little bit. I
was a little sad, feel a little down, but I'm
feeling better. I think the RFK Junior thing. I know,
Manny wasn't sure how it's going to play out. I
think it's going to be a good two to three
point bump for him in these swing states. Did you
happen to see I don't know if you watched Tucker
Carlson's podcast, but he did an interview with two with

(33:53):
a doctor from a Stanford educated doctor and her brother
who was a lobbyist for FIRMA.

Speaker 3 (33:59):
I think it was last week. Do you know what
I'm talking about?

Speaker 4 (34:01):
I know what you're about. I didn't see it.

Speaker 2 (34:02):
Oh my gosh, best two and a half hours I've
spent listening to anything in a long time about the
food industry, the pharmaceutical industry. She basically bailed on her
Stanford education as a surgeon and went to bat for
everyday Americans and what's happening in our food supply. And
the reason I bring this up is because it's one

(34:24):
I think it's one of the most watched podcast Tucker's
ever had, and it's exactly what RFK Junior talks about,
and that's his connection to suburban women.

Speaker 3 (34:34):
To moms.

Speaker 2 (34:35):
I'm really excited to see how this plays out. I
think it's going to be a huge bump. This is Heidiganal.
I'm filling in for Dan Kaplis. We'll be back after
the break to talk about the Colorado GOP drama
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