Singing about eating cats and George Brauchler

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:06):
Ladies and gentlemen in this corner from the University of Colorado,
thirty years in the rain, fighting for truth, justice, and
the American Way.

Speaker 2 (00:22):
A most gorgeous afternoon. Glad you are here. One of
the most exciting times in American history to be alive.
I mean, think about what we've had already right up
until September twelfth, twenty twenty four. But what is to
come between now and election day. It is mind blowing.
So I want to open it today with President Trump.

(00:42):
As you know, it came out and he said there
is not going to be a rematch, not going to
be a second debate. Do you think he's right or
wrong on that? Do you think it's going to help
or hurt him? Now? Harris already doing what I'm sure
he and you expected, which is sort of building her
campaign around it right now. See, he's chicken, he's afraid,
he me it's in a mission. I crushed him all

(01:04):
this and that, so you know, she'll obviously beat that
drum for a long time to come. But right, a
wrong decision by the president. So that is the breaking
news right now. Let's come out with that eight five
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great texts coming in, So I want to get to

(01:24):
text today. But I have to say that to me,
one of the great developments of this campaign is and
this is one of the most fun things in a
very long time, right, how it has become a true
cultural phenomenon now, which by the way, is going to
help Trump. And i'd like you're taking that, especially if
you disagree, but how do you top this? And it's

(01:46):
one of those things, right, It is involuntary, it's the
way we're created. This just now has probably burrowed into
your brain and you will never stop hearing this. This
is kind of a dramatic prelude, but once we get there,
it's well worth the wait. Yeah, wea the cat.

Speaker 3 (02:10):
They're eating the dogs. They're eating the cats. Eat the cat,
eat the cat. They're eating the dogs. They're eating the cats,
eat the cat.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
Eat eat the cat. They're eating the dogs.

Speaker 3 (02:21):
They're eating the cats, eat the cat, eat the cat.

Speaker 2 (02:25):
Yeah. And if you see the video and the video
is cat sweeping there social media at this point it originated,
Thank you very much. I think we see the thief
of elopin here. But yeah, so it's all over social
It started on TikTok, and the basic demo there are
some variations, is it's usually an attractive young lady who's

(02:47):
dancing to this song while mimicking the words, right, And
this is just if you're not in a social media
This is kind of a template that's been going around
for years now, where you have people dance to someone
else speaking the words. And this thing is I don't
know how many millions of views it has right now.
And the reason I think it helps Trump in the

(03:08):
end is listen, whether or not these stories are true
about folks here illegally eating cats and ducks from the
park and things like that, Whether or not it's true,
it caused attention to an undeniable reality, which is that
the decision of Biden and Harris to just open that
border and let everybody in without vetting has brought, along

(03:32):
with the good people, has brought a lot of really,
really bad, dangerous people. So, whether or not cats and
dogs are getting killed by some of the people here illegally,
certainly women are and women are being raped. And that
is that the brutal, completely unacceptable reality that every American
is aware of so you've got this kind of funny

(03:55):
thing about eating cats and dogs and everything else, that's
just it's a delivery system for this much more serious
and important message. So eight five five four zer a
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be talking about that. I can't wait to get your
take on whether Trump a good move or bad move

(04:16):
to say no second debate word out there. Don't know
if it's true or not, but all over social media
that there's going to be an ABC whistleblower coming forward
making some revelations about things that happened at ABC before
they rig this debate, engaged in this blatant election interference,
and committed journalistic malpractice. So we'll keep you posted and

(04:39):
see if anything comes of that. Some more poll results
out today that we have to talk about first, because
I like to put a smile on your face. Second,
I think it leads to this very large question of
all of the harm that was done to the Harris
campaign as a result of that debate the other night.

(04:59):
So I want to get into that and start to
break that down with you. Let's go to Linda in Netherlands,
you're on the dan Kaplas show. Welcome.

Speaker 4 (05:08):
Right.

Speaker 5 (05:09):
My oppinion, I think that Trump should do another debate
what's Camelo, but only on Fox Snooze. I No, she
won't do it, so she would be the chicken.

Speaker 2 (05:26):
Well but thank you, Linda, because a lot of smart
people are saying that. But let's break that down. If
Trump comes out and says, Okay, I'll do another debate,
but only on Fox News, at that point she says, see,
he's a chicken. He'll only do it on Fox News,
so that, you know, I think still leaves them with
that issue. But my other concern, Linda is wait a second.

(05:48):
This race is arking in his favor right now, and
what Harris is incredibly fearful of is the fact that
now there's an open playing field than the VP debate,
which is certain to go in the GOP's favor. There's
an open playing field now between today and election day,

(06:09):
and Trump gets to fill that with all this video
of harrising, all these insane things which prove that she's
a crazy, wild eyed radical. So why would you want
to why would you want to distract from that? That's
why she wants the second debate, right for a lot
of reasons. She really needs it, but she also wants

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to to fill up all of that space with something
other than a constant focus on who she really is.

Speaker 5 (06:39):
Well, I understand all that, but I still think it
would be the right thing to do.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
Yeah, well, Linda, sure appreciate that call eight five five
for zero five eight two five five. I think Trump
is a great in a great position now to just say,
wait a second. I have done two debates, two debates
against two different candidates. I knocked the first guy out.
That should have been the end of the race, right,
But then they have some back room deal and the
cabal replaces him and installs her. And then I do

(07:09):
a second debate on her terms. And guess what I
come out of that debate ahead. I come out of
that debate ahead. She doesn't gain in the polls. Now
she wants a third debate, give me a break, you know,
let's say, let her go out and do a bunch
of interviews. You know, it's stop hiding from the press,
go out there and answer these tough questions. So now

(07:29):
I think he's in a strong position to say that.
I think it is an extraordinarily wise move tactically, because
you know what Clint said, right, A man's got to
know his limitations, every single one of us. We have
our strengths and we have our weaknesses. That format is
not his strength, that's not his fault. He has some
incredible strengths that most people don't have. They just don't

(07:52):
fit that format in particular. And for whatever reason, he
doesn't want to do traditional debate preps. So that's fine, Hey,
be really realistic about where your best arenas are and
go out and operate in those arenas, particularly after you've
already debated twice here. And he does not get enough
credit for the good stuff he did on Tuesday night.

(08:12):
See that. This is the amazing phenomenon, right, And it's
so easy to get caught up in. There is so
much frustration, and I share it, believe me, because President
Trump missed so many opportunities the other night. He had
so many openings he didn't take. But at the same time,
she missed bigger opportunities. She missed her one and only opportunity,

(08:37):
and I'll get to that in a second. But at
the same time Trump missed all those opportunities, he did
some really important things very well. You know, repeatedly hammering
on immigration, great distinction when it came to foreign policy,
the economy, etc. He did some of those things very well.
He also avoided any major gaffs, and I I thought

(09:00):
his temperament, you know, overall, was very good under those
incredibly difficult circumstances. So I think that all the good
stuff gets lost because of the frustration over the missed openings.
But then so many people are failing to consider she
had one shot. This was her one shot to address

(09:23):
the core concern of those undecided voters, which is, who
the hell is she? What does she really believe? You know,
can I believe she's really changed these positions? So you
gotta tell me, comly, you got it, tell me, you know,
why did you change the positions? What are your positions now?
But above all, why did you change? She had one

(09:46):
opportunity to talk to the American people about that, and
she blew it. She never addressed that, She never explained it.
Close second is the fact she never explained what she
says she would really do now. So ironically right, the
so called moderators who protected her the entire time literally

(10:07):
jumped into the ring and debated themselves with Trump to
protect her. They protected her to the point where she
never did what she had to do to win this race. Now,
of course, the reason they did that is they know
that had they not protected her the way they did,
she would have collapsed. I mean she literally she wouldn't

(10:28):
have been quite as bad as Biden, but it would
have been close. There would have been a collapse if
she had not been dishonestly protected the way she was.
I'll give you specifics when we come back eight five
to five for zero five eight two five to five.
But the lead question, because it's the breaking news this afternoon,
President Trump says there's not going to be another debate.
He's done two. He's not going to do a third.

(10:48):
Right or wrong. You think that is going to help
or hurt him. You're on the Dan Kapla show. This
is on CBS, believe it or not.

Speaker 4 (10:56):
And so I talked to twenty voters that one of
them was undecided. Wow, Michigan and headlines come and go.
But let me tell you, this support for former President
Trump is real and resilient. I encountered that everywhere I went.
And that's something the Harris campaign knows recognized as the
fact in Michigan.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
Yeah, that's CBS post debate and a Michigan pull out
today and it says it's post debate. But I believe
it takes about a week to really see that the
Poles settle in after one of these. But it had
Trump up a points. So yeah, and think about the
panic in the Harris camp right because she cannot have
a better night. I mean, she was totally protected. She

(11:35):
missed a lot of opportunities. She cannot have a better night.
And if the Poles don't move substantially in her favor now,
it can only mean one thing. Okay, the American people
see it and they say, nah, to the phone lines,
let's go to Mead Colorado. Tom, you're on the Dan Kaplish'll.

Speaker 6 (11:52):
Welcome, Hi, Dan, How are you.

Speaker 2 (11:54):
Living the dream? Thank you?

Speaker 6 (11:56):
You and I rarely disagree, but your take on the
debate I'm going to disagree with. I thought his demeanor
was terrible. He was negative, he was angry, and she
got up under his grill. I mean, just like like
she tried to and he had and to your good point,
he had every opportunity to bring up capital gains tax

(12:16):
taxes on unrealized gains. I mean, that was a kitchen
table deal, you know, issue to bring up, and that's
really what people want to bring up. But instead he
starts talking about eating cats and dogs. He was awful,
and I knew he.

Speaker 4 (12:29):
Was with me.

Speaker 2 (12:31):
Okay, so at least you're in an open minded Tom. Yeah. Listen,
I'd like everybody else who has voted for him in
the past, wants him to win this time. I was
literally sitting there screaming. I mean, as she baited him
with stuff like grelly size, I was yelling out loud
in my basement, No, no, don't do it. And of

(12:52):
course he did it. But but we've also got to remember,
my friend, okay, that that is part of his success formula,
because I understand, you know, we're sitting there and we're
looking at how close these swing states appear, and you know,
you have to broaden your appeal and you have to
peel the suburban moms and this and that. But that
is not Trump's formula. Clearly. Trump's formula is massive turnout

(13:15):
among the people who already support him and the people
who normally don't vote, and so he's got a different
path he's pursuing to get there, and so so much
of what he said and did that night I think
supports that other path, but it did drive me crazy.
So I mean, we could sit here together and come
up with fifty.

Speaker 7 (13:34):
Right.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
And when you're the man in the arena the way
he was, and you're up against those time constraints, you're
up against the so called moderators who are actually Harris
staffers in effect. Yeah, it's easy to say from the
comfort of my man cave. So let's say that you've
got these ten or fifteen clear open shots you can take.
I would expect the best candidate on his or her

(13:57):
best night to maybe get five verse six of those in.
But but yeah, that the fact he whiffed on almost
all of them is frustrating. But Tom, he did so
many things well you're not giving him credit for, and
it's showing up in the polls right now. I mean,
how does he extend his lead in the CNN poll
on the most important issue of the economy if he

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was as bad as you say he is.

Speaker 6 (14:21):
Well, I'll tell you that's true, and you're right, But
I really you know, he had a perfect opportunity to
bring up this insanity about taxing unrealized things and I
know that applies to people one hundred million dollars in
up network, but still it's going to affect other you know,
more other investments, you know, all the private equity crowd
and everything else.

Speaker 2 (14:42):
You know, and listen, we could go through a long
list right now, right, And I'm sure that if you
sat down with my wife, she could give you a long,
long list of opportunities I missed, you know what I mean,
or things I could have done better. And she's very supportive,
So I don't mean to make it sound that way,
but I'm sure your wife could do the same, you know,

(15:03):
not about me, but about you.

Speaker 6 (15:05):
The debate, did she make it good?

Speaker 2 (15:07):
We were in opposite states, and and she is such
a caring and loving partner that she had the good
sense to not even text me during the debate because yes, yeah,
but but no, Tom, I mean, he did so many
things well and that's the only way you can explain, right,
the fact that that he is not losing ground after

(15:30):
this debate and it was her very best night possible.

Speaker 6 (15:35):
Yeah, and you're right there. I mean, you know, a
lot of pundage are coming out and saying it's really
not gonna move it needily either way, which is a
relief that that makes me feel better.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
But doesn't that go back Tom to who actually won
the debate? Because how are we going to define winning?
It seems to me when you're running for president that
the only way you define winning is did you do
in that debate what you needed to do to win
the presidency? He did. Part of it was avoiding gaffes,
part of it was being very strong on the issues
that matter most to voters. And and she didn't because

(16:08):
she hasn't moved the needles. So how do you say
she won when she didn't do what she needed to
win the presidency and he did. Now, the fact he
had all these missed opportunities, Yeah, he could have absolutely
buried her, He could have bidonized her. That race could
be obviously over in everybody's mind. They could be looking
for ways to replace her now. But the fact is

(16:30):
he did what he needed to do to win the presidency.
She didn't. How is that not a win?

Speaker 6 (16:35):
Yeah, well, you know we can always see on this November.

Speaker 2 (16:40):
Yeah, no, we will. That's it's going to be so
quick right now, Thank you, Tom, sure to appreciate that.
Let's go to Dean and Arvada. You're on the Dan
Kapla show. Welcome, Hey Dan, thank you.

Speaker 8 (16:52):
I wanted to bring up one point. I don't know
why the GUP seems to just shoot themselves in the foot.
Why don't they come up with an unconventional debate scenario
where they I'm bringing my moderator, you pick yours. We'll
have great questions that our moderators can come up with
from each team. And I don't care if you know
the questions. Obviously they're gonna know him, but they won't

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know the opposites about moderators questions. And then it's fair.
You don't have to leave.

Speaker 6 (17:19):
Saying that was not moderated for you know, Trump could
take Tucker Carlson or Dan Bunjoni Gongenio.

Speaker 8 (17:26):
You know I can't even call Yeah, and you know
he knows he's going to get a fair shake.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
Then yeah, but tell me, why do you want a
second debate? Why does Trump need a second No?

Speaker 8 (17:37):
No, no, at this point, at this point, he doesn't
need one. I'm just saying he should have went into
this a little bit more guard.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
He had no choice. O he's on Dean. He had
no choice. Remember, at the time this debate was agreed to.
I mean, after Harris was installed, she had all this momentum,
she was on this sugar high, her numbers kept going up.
He was being chilling to the debate. He had no leverage,
he had no bargaining power. It was either agreed to

(18:04):
that debate so we'd at least have one opportunity to
show America who she really is or look really weak.
He had no choice. She had the leverage. Now the
worm is turned. Now he has the leverage. She desperately
needs his second debate because she didn't get done what
she needed to in the first one.

Speaker 8 (18:21):
Well, I mean, I totally I agree with you, But
the thing is, I mean you can't just say, okay,
you win the debate.

Speaker 7 (18:27):
We're not in.

Speaker 8 (18:28):
It's like it was three on one and we all
know that I listened to your show every day.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
Well thank you, but and I've got to go nowday.
I do apologize after this hard break, but you know,
in terms of winning and losing, don't the voters get
to decide that? And all indications in the polls are
right now she did not get it done.

Speaker 3 (18:48):
Eat the cat, Eat the cat. They're eating the dogs,
they're eating the cats eat the cat, the cat.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
Finally a song I can dance to eight five five
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DA in five seven, seventh thirty nine. Hey, the breaking
news this afternoon that we're getting your take on fascinating
text on both sides of this. Is President Trump's decision,
I think a brilliant one not to agree to a
third debate. So we'll get back to that in a second.

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But have the great opportunity to talk to George Brockler here,
candidate for DA in Colorado's new twenty third George, have
you been officially declared the winner yet or is there
still a technicality out there to be fulfilled?

Speaker 7 (19:31):
No? No, no, there there's thank you for having me
on DAN. No, there's a there's a candidate on the
other side presenting a Democrat thing. We had our first
and only debate on the same night as the presidential
No first, no planned our first, I swear no. It
was a Douglas Elbert Bar association. It was scheduled like
two months ago, and then the presidential one dropped on us,

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and it was still greatly attendant. It only overlapped ours
went to about seven thirty or so. But people game,
it was packed.

Speaker 2 (20:01):
Really it was impressed. Yeah, that's impressed. But wow, So Georgia,
if you're new to the planet, was a great DA
out in Repo when it was both a Repo and Douglas.
Now they're split and he'll be the new DA in
Douglas and has a column out. I really want to
talk with you about, you know, about how revolving door

(20:21):
makes sentencing a first in Colorado. But before we go there, obviously,
what everybody's water cooler done now is the aftermath of
the debate. So your take on who won, who lost,
and Trump right or wrong to say no to numeral three.

Speaker 7 (20:35):
You know, I listened to you every day and your
analysis always makes me think because your perspective is one
that I don't take when I'm sitting there watching it,
but it resonates with me. My takeaway was this wasn't
game setter match for Kamala Harris. I don't know that
she won any votes there. I think the disparity in

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performance was based on the fact that, you know, we
had set the bars so low for her, even in
anticipating that ABC would come to her rescue and she'd
be uber prepared and that's just not Trump's style and
all that stuff. The disparity in terms of the perception,
I think made it okay for some who were like,
I don't know if I can vote for her, and

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now feel like I think I can vote for her,
And maybe it provided a little bit of energy to
the youth. Do I think it makes a difference in
the overall outcome of the election? I don't. This feels
a lot like twenty sixteen to me, Dan, this feels like, ye,
We're gonna go to bed at night on that Tuesday,
and Trump pulled this thing out.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
No, I think that's right in the comparisons to sixteen,
because Trump had a horrible first debate in sixteen against
Hillary Clinton, still the most watched debate in American history,
we don't have these numbers yet, and still pulled it
out and again pulled it out, what three weeks after
the Access Hollywood tapes came out. So and I don't.

(21:57):
I think he did a lot of good things Tuesday.
He had all those missed opportunities that frustrated all of us,
But I think he did a lot of good things.
I didn't see any major gaffs or anything close to
a major gaff.

Speaker 7 (22:09):
What about you, No, it's the major gaff. You know
the problem with Trump if he has an achilles heel,
if he is prone to sometimes chasing things that you
and I would sit there and go, dude, don't take
don't chase that. You've got all the policies, you've got
all the past performance, don't chase the small stuff. But
there's that little bit of a kitten in him where

(22:31):
if you throw out a yarn ball man, he's going
to try to bat it.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
And then the other fact that listen you talk about
it sixteen all over again. I agree with you on that.
And big part of sixteen was a whole lot of
folks voting you normally don't vote, and then massive turnout
among the folks who do support him. Because we all know,
right you've been in the arena you are now that
it's not about who tells upholstery. I prefer that guy.
It's who cares enough to go out and vote. And

(22:57):
the intensity of support for Trump, I think is going
to wharf that of Harris, particularly among the folks who
don't normally vote. So I think part of what we
saw the other night was meant to, you know, continue
to appeal to those folks who you know aren't looking
for the typical message. Right, But what about this decision?

Speaker 7 (23:20):
She again her willingness, her willingness to openly avoid any questions,
Like you didn't really need to have her there. She
could have recorded her answers in advance and just they
could have asked well, and she could have pressed like
press one, press three. I mean, these are all the
rehearsed answers. She didn't really ever respond to the things
about crime, is the economy better today than it was?

(23:42):
I mean, none of that stuff.

Speaker 2 (23:43):
Well, and tell me if you agree with me and
this George Brockler with us. I was telling folks yesterday,
My belief is that you know, right now, voters believe
candidates on both sides lie. And I compare the swing
state undecided voters right now to jurors because they know
they know everybody wants something from them. So when somebody

(24:04):
comes in who wants something from you, just like a juror,
you know, hearing arguments from both sides in the trial,
and the person who wants something from you is not
willing to answer a direct question, a really important direct question.
I think Kamala Harris hurt herself gravely by not being

(24:25):
willing to answer these really critical direct questions George. I mean,
here's Jake Tapper on that.

Speaker 4 (24:30):
Vice President Harris began the debate by punting the first
question on the economy.

Speaker 6 (24:37):
Do you believe Americans are better off than they were
four years ago?

Speaker 9 (24:40):
So I was raised as a middle class kid, and
I am actually the only person on this stage who
has a plan that is about lifting up the middle
class and working people of America.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
They went on from there, despite Yeah, he's disgusted with
the George and he's disgusted rrect because the people on
the land, you have to want to win this race,
and they know that if Harris won't answer these direct questions,
it's going to turn off voters. I mean, you have
tried so many cases, you know, hasn't it been your
experience that when you're cross examining a witness and they

(25:14):
will not answer a pivotal direct question, it's better for
you than any answer they could have given.

Speaker 7 (25:21):
It is, especially when the jury picks up on the
fact and sometimes it requires a follow up question, and
that's where Mirr and his colleague failed America. You ask
the question a second time, you get the non answer,
and then jurors are like, I get it. They're not
going to ever give us the answer.

Speaker 5 (25:36):
You know.

Speaker 7 (25:36):
One of the fascinating things in this and you've hit
this pretty hard, is CNN. What is going on over
at CNN that like, you don't expect this. And I'm
not just talking about from Jay Capper. I'm talking about
the other stuff you put on, Like who got in
CNN's head and said, did the CNN feel like they
were rejected by the Harris team? And so they're like, well,
we'll show you or what this new birth of journalism?

(25:58):
What's that about?

Speaker 2 (25:58):
Well, what I think it's about, George is that I
think many on the left now see that the worst
thing that could happen to the left, which now has
the Democratic Party as a tool, is for her to win.
Because if she wins, she is going to be so
terrible in the job. It's going to get them wiped
out in the mid terms. It's going to get them

(26:19):
wiped out in twenty eight and all this supposed great
young talent they have is going to be on the
bench for eight years. And here's the kicker, my friend.
They're not getting They're not getting any Scotus appointments in
the next four years, and so they're going to suffer
all this damage through her terrible presidency without even getting

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a Supreme Court pick.

Speaker 7 (26:43):
I'm worried. I mean, I worry about Look, there are
so many issues across the globe, but the sleeping giant
over there, at least in terms of perception for Americans
is China and the South China Sea and had one.
I mean, who do you want behind the White House desk? Yeah,
when that thing breaks loose in twenty twenty seven, because
that's coming, oh man, coming.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
And again I think that's why so many on the
left now do not want her to win, because they
know she's going to be a disaster and it's going
to damage the party for a long time to come. Hey,
can you stick around for another segment? I do want
to get to your great column, revolving Door, make sentencing
a farce in Colorado, George Brockler with me. You're on
the Dan Kapla Show.

Speaker 9 (27:25):
Former Vice President Dick Cheney and Congresswoman Liz Cheney are
supporting me as well.

Speaker 2 (27:34):
You know this is like exhibit Z right, just just
the craziest presidential race of our lifetime. So you've got
wild eyed, far left wing radical Kamala Harris up there
bragging about support from Dick Cheney right, and George before
we get to your great column about revolving door sentencing
in Colorado. It's another area where I think Trump won

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the other night was when it comes to war in peace.
I mean, think about it. We've got the Republican running
as the peace candidate, and we've got the Democrat running
as the war candidate. And we've got the Democrat saying
Dick Cheney supports me, and Donald Trump saying, hey, we're
risking a nuclear World War three. So it's fascinating I think,

(28:19):
and listen, I don't. I think Putin is Satan on
Earth and he's raping and pillaging Ukraine and he shouldn't
get away with it. But I don't think America wants
to sign a blank check now for an open ended
whatever it takes to defeat Vladimir Putin in Ukraine. And
I think Trump politically right now, is on the right
side of that issue.

Speaker 7 (28:41):
Oh well, listen, I don't want to see a single
American boot inside Ukraine that that would be ridiculous. But
I'll say this, the idea that maybe your European partners,
who you man, we carry the lion share of the effort.
If they could just chip in a couple extra bucks
here and there, how much more could we do or
how much of the burden could we take off of ourselves.

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Why is that such a controversial thing for Trump to say?

Speaker 2 (29:06):
Oh, I don't think it is. That's why I think,
politically is on the right side of this issue. I
don't want Putin to get his way. I do want
Ukraine to prevail. But right now the Harris position, the
Harris position is whatever it takes to defeat Putin. And
when you're talking about whatever it takes against the nuclear
power versus a guy who's saying, hey, I just want

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the war to end. I just want to make peace.
I think that's going to benefit him greatly come election date.
But hey, George, tell us about this Colin. By the way,
those who don't know, George was a great DA in
o Repo and he's running for DA in Douglas. What's
your website?

Speaker 7 (29:42):
Just George Brockler dot com Traditional Healing.

Speaker 2 (29:44):
How much did you pay a consultant for that.

Speaker 7 (29:47):
It was available.

Speaker 2 (29:49):
Yeah, right, so tell folks about this revolving door sentencing.

Speaker 7 (29:55):
Yeah, so here's what I did. I was asked, what
are some things that Colorado could do, Colorado voters could
do to try to make up for what the legislature
and policts have done to our criminal justice system. And
one of the things a bunch of us agreed on
is we need to have real truth and sentencing right now.
We don't right now. For folks that don't know this,
the law says on paper that if you're a violent criminal,

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you have to serve seventy five percent of your sentence
before you're parole eligible. But once you factor in good time,
earn time, didn't rape my cellmate this week time, it
actually functions more like forty three percent before you're parole eligible,
and you get about eighteen months off of that at
the back end to get into community correction. This is
fake sentencing and it hasn't made us safer. We have

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one of the highest recidivism rates in the country. And
so you know, with this Truth and Sentencing proposal, this
one twelve, it's on the ballot, it's an opportunity to
say all right legislature and POLIS and the police appointed
Parole Board. If you don't get it, we do. We're
going to change the law to mandate that violent felons
must serve eighty five percent of their time before their paroles.

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So I do this deep dive into all the numbers
that are out there, and I don't think people have
any idea that even though there's been a twenty eight
percent increase in violent crime over the last ten years,
we have a lower prison population now than we did
at that time. We have two thousand less prisoners today

(31:22):
than we did just three years or five years ago
in July twenty nineteen.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
It explains crime, the less crime.

Speaker 7 (31:28):
It's not of the crime, it's just we're not sending
people to prisoner keeping them there.

Speaker 2 (31:34):
George, Where can people learn more about this because I
don't think it's been on the radar. Did this ballot measure?

Speaker 7 (31:40):
No? Yeah? Yeah? First off, Advanced Colorado Michael Fields, who's
a buddy, and KBB Christy Burton Brown have been great
at getting this thing up on the ballot. You can
go to the Advanced Colorado dot org website. You can
also just Google Gazette and this column revolving door prison
and the statistics that I put in here I didn't

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expect to see. But the bottom line is the ACLU
since about twenty fifteen twenty eighteen has dominated the legislature
and they've had their way. They said their goal in
twenty eighteen was to cut our prison population by fifty percent,
not the rate of crime, just the prison population by
fifty percent, and they are rapidly approaching some sort of momentum.

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We can't stop with that, man.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
And I love what Advanced Colorado and some others are
doing and saying, Okay, listen, anything with the Red Jersey
is just getting shot at the polls and election day.
We're going to go win it through ballot measures until
we can start winning these state wide races. And they're
making some real progress there, so I'm glad this is
part of that.

Speaker 7 (32:43):
I agreed, I listen. The initiative process is really the
last tool for regular old Coloradoans like we know, like
our neighbors, to have a voice in government, because it
is clear that the people we are sending to represent
us in most of the places, including the state office,
they just don't care what we think.

Speaker 2 (33:00):
Man. And while I've got you let me ask you this.
You know, you see all of these arguments from the
left right now that that wait a second, statistics show
crime is actually dropping, crime is not increasing, et cetera.
I know you know these stats and the stats that
come from these different entities inside and out. Which is
it Colorado America crime on the rise or crime dropping.

Speaker 7 (33:22):
We had a crime tsunami, for sure, Colorado did. And
I predicted this thing before it hit, before the COVID.
We have seen some decrease in those numbers. But this
idea that we're going to use an FBI database that
has a brand new methodology for calculating crimes and oh,
by the way, doesn't include every agency that's out there,
that's fake. If you look at the FBI's numbers on

(33:43):
victim reporting of crimes, yeah, we're still experiencing an increase
in crime everywhere. I don't get the apologies for this,
whether it's the Aurora, you know, apartment complexes with the Venezuelans,
it just seems like people want to go out of
their way to say, don't believe you're lying.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
Well, right, obviously the left has to deny what's true,
or else the left gets bet at the polls, just
like tonight. Oh no, no abortion in the ninth month
isn't allowed anywhere. Well, come to Colorado that they brag
about allowing it up till the moment that baby's delivered.
So if the left lies, because if people knew the truth,
they wouldn't vote for the left.

Speaker 7 (34:22):
That's right, that's right. I think at this point, this
ballot initiative process that advanced Colorado has figured out that
the next approach the left will taker twofold one Dan
what sentencing passes, and it does. They're going to then
cut down the maximum sentence for all the crimes across
the board. That's what they'll do to address this. And
the second thing they'll do is they'll attack the petition
process to a constitutional amendment. They don't want us to

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have the power.

Speaker 2 (34:45):
Final question. And then you know, once the election's over
come on in, let's just sit down and talk about
all this stuff from how or two? But is there
a path back for the GOP in Colorado to regularly
winning statewide? Hey? Unfair question, right, we got twenty seconds.
If George solve all the world's problems in thirteen point

(35:07):
six seconds, you can do that. That's why you're George Brocler.

Speaker 7 (35:10):
You on Saturday at the showdown.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
Yeah, looking forward to that, my friend. Thanks, thanks for
the time today, George Brockler, good Man, great ta Hey
when we come back. Trump has said no to a
third debate. Do you think he's right or wrong? Will
it help or hurt? I think it's brilliant and it
will help. You're on the Dan Kapla Show.