October 16, 2024 • 35 mins
Dan gives a running commentary during the real-time interview by Bret Baier with Kamala Harris, her first-ever appearance on Fox News. And probably her last. It was every bit the disaster you thought it would be.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Dan Caplis and welcome to today's online podcast
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single day on your favorite podcast platform. All I can
tell you is I think it's going to do in
calculable damage to the American way of Kamala Harris becomes president.
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And that's a prelude to taking you to the Brettbear
interview with Kamala Harris. Now, it was half an hour long,
and it was done straight to tape, no edits, and
Fox began to air at about two and a half
minutes ago. We're going to start at the beginning, and
so I hope you have a blood pressure medication, because
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first of all, you're going to be very impressed with Brettbear.
He is more properly firm with her than any interviewer
we have seen. But what you will see is she
is simply Kamala Harris is simply refusing to answer these
direct questions and instead reverting back to the borders. All
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the Republicans fault, but credit Brett Bher. He's been as
tough as anybody can be under those circumstances. With that said,
we'll go to the start of the interview again and
begin air about three minutes ago. You're on the Dan
Kapla Show.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Bad Vice President. Thank you for the time.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Thank you, it's good to be with you, Brett.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
You know, voters tell polsters all over the country and
here in Pennsylvania that immigration is one of the key
issues that they're looking at this election, and specifically the
influx of illegal immigrants from more than one hundred and
fifty countries. How many illegal immigrants would you estimate your
administration has released into the country over the last three
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and a half years.
Speaker 5 (01:42):
Well, I'm glad you raised the issue of immigration because
I agree with you. It is a topic of discussion
that people want to rightly have and you know what
I'm going to talk about.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Yeah, but do you're just a number? Do you think
it's one million, three million?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Brett, Let's just get to the point, Okay.
Speaker 5 (01:59):
The point is that we have a broken immigration system
that needs to be repaired.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
So your Homeland Security secretary said that eighty five percent of.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Apprehension, I'm not finished.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
We have we have a refreshment of six million people
have been released into the country.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
And let me just finish. I'll get you the question
I promised you I was beginning to answer.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
And when you came into office, your administration immediately reversed
a number of Trump border policies, most significantly the policy
that required illegal immigrants to be detained through deportation, either
in the US or in Mexico. And you switched that policy,
they were released from custody awaiting trial.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
So instead included in those.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Were a large number of single men, adult men who
went on to commit heinous crimes.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
So, looking back, do you regret the decision.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
To terminate remain in Mexico At the beginning of your administration.
Speaker 5 (02:53):
At the beginning of our administration, within practically hours of
taking the oath, the first bill that we offered Congress,
before we worked on infrastructure, before the Inflation and Reduction Act.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Before the Chips and Science.
Speaker 5 (03:11):
Act, before any before the bipartisan Safer Communities Act, the
first bill practically within hours of taking the oath, was
a bill to fix our immigration system.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
This man.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
It was called the US Citizen Citizenship Act of two
thousand twenty one.
Speaker 6 (03:28):
Essentially, but I've made a citizenship for I finished.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
I finished responding for but you have to let me finish.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
You had the White House and the House and the Senate,
and they didn't bring.
Speaker 5 (03:38):
Up responding to the point you're raising, and I'd like
to finish. We recognized from day one that to the
point of this being your first question, it is a
priority for US as a nation and for the American people,
and our focus has been on fixing a problem. And
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from day one then we have done a number of things,
including to address our asylum system and put more resources,
getting more judges, what we needed to do to tighten
up penalties and increase penalties for illegal crossings, what we
needed to do to deal with points of entry between
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border entry points.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
That's the work we did, and we worked.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
On supporting what was a bipartisan effort, including some of
the most conservative members of the United States Congress.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
To actually strengthen the border.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
That border bill would have put fifteen hundred more border
agents at the border, which is why I believe the
border patrol agents supported the bill. It would have allowed
us to stem the flow of fentanyl coming into the
United States, which is a scorge affecting people of every background,
every geographic location in our country killing people.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
It would have.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
Allowed us to put more resources into prosecuting transnational criminal organizations,
which I have done. The attorney general, former attorney general
of a border state.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Vice president, a couple of execute the.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Trafficking of drugs, stuns, and human beings. And Donald Trump,
but let me just finish.
Speaker 5 (05:10):
Answer, ushed that bill and told them to kill it
because he preferred to run on a problem instead of
fixing a problem. And in this election, this is rightly
a discussion that the American people want to have, and
what they want are solutions, and they want a president
of the United States was not playing political games with
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the issue.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
I hear you, But Ashley is focused on.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
Six Democrats voted against that bill. It would have allowed
one point eight million illegal immigrants into the country a year.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
A lot of conservatives had a problem with it.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
These are the six Democrats, but more importantly back to
the original premise, Joscelyn Hungary, Rachel Morin, lacln Riley, they
are young women who were brutally assaulted and killed by
some of the men who were released at the beginning
of the administration. Well before I negotiate bipartisan bill, Former
President Clinton actually referred to Lake and Riley Sunday campaigning
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for you, and Georgia is saying, if those men had
been properly vetted, Lake and Riley probably.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Would not have been killed. So if it wouldn't have happened,
this is well before any.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Negotiation, This is well before Donald Trump got involved in
the politics. This is a specific policy decision by your
administration to release these men into the country.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
So what I'm saying to you, do you know the
family really I think an apology.
Speaker 5 (06:29):
Let me just say first of all those tragic cases,
there's no question about that.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
There's no question about that.
Speaker 5 (06:38):
And I can't imagine the pain that the families of
those victims have experienced for a lass that should.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Not have occurred. So that is true.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
It is also true answer the question of security had
actually been passed nine months ago, it would be nine
months that we would have had more border agents at
the border, more support for the folks who are working
around the clock trying to hold.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
It all together.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Madain, Vice President ensure that.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
No future harm would occur. And this election in twenty
days will determine whether we have a president of the
United States who actually cares more about fixing a problem,
even if it is not to their political advantage in
an election.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Because there was a solution, brat Madam.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
Vice President, it was a policy decision in the early
part of your administration.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
I will let one of the mothers talk about it.
Take a listen.
Speaker 7 (07:39):
Because of the Biden Harris administration open border policies, catch
your release, I'm sure they We're ready in the Alternativesty
Detention program. This meant that they were released into the
United States. It was not even a full three weeks
later that they would take my daughter, Jocelyn Nungerra's life.
I believe the Biden Harris administration open border policies are
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responsible for the death of my daughter.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
That's the early days. So do you owe them an apologies?
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Well, I shall tell you that I am so sorry
for her loss. I'm so sorry for her loss, and
answer the question merely.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
But let's talk about what is happening right now with
an individual who does not want to participate in solutions.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Let's talk about that as well.
Speaker 5 (08:26):
Right, I want to answer in all fairness, I told
you I feel awful for what she and her family
have experienced.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
During that time.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
You said repeatedly that the border was secure. When in
your mind did it start becoming a crisis.
Speaker 5 (08:39):
Nice, We've had a broken immigration system transcending by the
way Donald Trump's administration even before.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Let's all be honest about that.
Speaker 5 (08:49):
I have no pride in saying that this is a
perfect immigration system.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
I've been clear. I think we all are that it
needs to be fixed.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
We need more to I was just own at the
border talking with border agents and they will tell you,
and I'm sure you probably I know you investigate and
you are a series journalist. They will tell you we
need more judges, we need to we need to process
those cases faster, we need this support for those cases
that should be prosecuted.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
They need more resources.
Speaker 5 (09:20):
And Congress ultimately is the only place that that's going
to get fixed.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Brett.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
That's how the system works.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
That's the premise's question.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
There were ninety plus executive orders that were rescinded in
the first days. Many of those were Trump border policies.
I'm not going to stay here because there's other things
to talk about. But you frequently talked to the Border
Patrol Union for support of that bipartisan bill, and they did.
They supported it, but they also just endorsed Donald Trump
and said, you've been quote a failure with border security.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Why do you think they said that?
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Okay, let's pick her answer up out of the break.
We're taking this about three minutes behind because it started
three minutes before we came on air. When we come back,
we'll pick it up from right there. Tremendous job by
Brett Bear. I mean, you can't force her to answer questions.
She'll left to pay a political price for her dishonest evasion.
But great job by Brett Behar. You're on the Dan
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Capla Show.
Speaker 8 (10:14):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 9 (10:17):
Here's what we're doing. You're on the Dan Capla Show.
Thank you for being here.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
We are playing start to finish Brett Bear's interview with
Kamala Harris. She gave him thirty minutes. He did it
straight to tape, no edits, and so we obviously paused.
Speaker 9 (10:33):
It for the break. We'll pick it up where we
left off.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
If you weren't with us the quick recap, Brett Behar
is doing a fantastic job.
Speaker 9 (10:41):
In my opinion.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Clearly Kamala Harris came in with a plan. He's only
got thirty minutes with me. I'm not going to answer
anything of substance. I'm going to fight with him, and
I'm going to gain ground by appearing strong by fighting
with him. So that's what we're in the middle of.
I think Bear is being masterful, but dub it.
Speaker 9 (11:02):
Here we go.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
There's other things to talk about.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
But you frequently talked to the Border Patrol Union for
support of that bipartisan bill, and they did. They supported it,
but they also just endorsed Donald Trump and said, you've
been quote a failure with border security.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Why do you think they said that.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
I think they're frustrated, and I get it. They want support.
They want support, and that's what that border security bill
would have done.
Speaker 5 (11:27):
These guys down at the border, these men and women,
they're working hard, they're working around the clock.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
I get it.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
There's a lot of people that look back in what
you said at twenty nineteen when you first ran for president,
and there have been changes, and you've talked about some
of them. When it comes to immigration, you supported allowing
immigrants in the country illegally to apply for driver's license,
to qualify for free tuition at universities, to be enrolled
in free healthcare, do you still support those things?
Speaker 5 (11:56):
Listen, that was five years ago, and I'm very clear
that I will follow the law. I have made that
statement over and over again, and as Vice president of
the United States, that's exactly what I've done.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
Not to mention before you, if that's the case, you
chose a running mate, Tim Walls, governor of Minnesota, who
signed those very things into state law.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
So do you support that?
Speaker 5 (12:18):
We are very clear, and I am very clear as
is Tim Walls, that we must support and enforce federal law,
and that is exactly what we will do.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
So decriminalizing border crossings, like you said in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 5 (12:34):
I do not believe in decriminalizing border crossings, and I've
not done that as vice president.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
I will not do that as president.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
So these are that you've had.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Well, let's be very clear.
Speaker 5 (12:45):
I'm the only person who's running for president who is
prosecuted transnational criminal organizations, from the Sinaloa cartel buster to
the Guadalajara Quota cartel, to people who have trafficked and guns, drugs,
and human beings. I have spent a significant part of
my career going after people who present a threat to
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the safety of the American people and cross our border
with the intent of doing US harm and cross our
border illegally, and I will do that work as vice president.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
I take that work quite seriously.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
This is a time when voters, especially here in Pennsylvania,
are inundated with commercials and ads. They just wanted to
stop because it's every commercial but many.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Of them add noise. But a few of them seem
to break through.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
This particular one from the Trump campaign has gotten a
lot of attention of.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Spot War funded six Changes for prisoners.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
Surgery for prisoners for prisoners, every transgender inmate in the
prison system would have access.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
So are you still in support of using taxpayer dollars
to help prison inmates or detain illegal aliens to transition
to another gender.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
I will follow the law. And it's a law that
Donald Trump actually what a gift to.
Speaker 5 (14:03):
Trump your probably now it's a public report that under
Donald Trump's administration, these surgeries were available to on a
medical necessity basis to people in the federal prison system.
And I think, frankly, that ad from the Trump campaign
is a little bit of like throwing stones when you're
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living in a glasshouse.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
The Trump aids say that he never advocated for that
prison policy, and no gender transition had to take.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Responsible for what happened in your administration.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
Yeah, no surgeries happened in this president. Would you still
advocate for using task pay of dollars for gender reassignments.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
I will follow the law just as I think so
he did.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
He would have to say, as president, like I said.
Speaker 5 (14:48):
I think it's real he spent twenty million dollars on
those ads trying to create a sense of fear in
the voters because he actually.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Has no plan well based election that is about basing.
Speaker 5 (15:00):
On the needs of the American people, Whereas twenty million
dollars in that ad on an issue that, as it
relates to the biggest issues that affect the American people,
is really quite remote.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
And again his policy with the American people. Look at
where we are.
Speaker 5 (15:18):
Though they plans for the American people. I'm offering a
plan to deal with affordable housing. I'm offering a plan
to deal with what we need to do to strengthen
small businesses, which are the backbone of America's economy. I
am offering a plan that is about taking care of
young parents and giving them the support they need. My
plans for the economy will strengthen the economy, as have
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been reviewed by sixteen Nobel Laureates, Goldman, Sachs, Moody's, and
recently the Wall Street Journal, which have all studied our
plans and have indicated My plans for our economy would
strengthen our economy.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
His would make them weaker, igne.
Speaker 5 (15:54):
Inflation and invite a recession by the middle of next year.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Those are the facts.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
Why do you think more people say they trust him
on the economy then.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
They trust you.
Speaker 5 (16:02):
I think that when you look at an analysis of
our plans for what we would do as president of
the United States, it has been clear to those who
study and understand how economic policy works that moving forward
because I do believe the American people are ready to
turn the page on the divine and the type of
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rhetoric that has come out of Donald Trump. People are
ready to chart a new way forward, and they want
a president who has a plan for the future and
a plan that is sound and will strengthen our country.
My plan for the economy does exactly that. His plan
would be again to give tax cuts to billionaires and
the biggest corporations in our country and blow up our.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
Deficit it's interesting you said turn the page Man and
Vice President. You were asked on two different shows last week,
what if anything you would do differently than President Biden.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Here's what you said.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
Would you have done something differently than President Biden during
the past four years?
Speaker 3 (17:00):
There is done a thing that comes to mind in terms.
Speaker 5 (17:03):
Of and I've been a part of most of the
decisions that have had impact.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Let's pause it there, Ryan, because we want to make
sure we get her full answer, and we're up against
our break.
Speaker 9 (17:14):
So if you just joined us, thank you.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Obviously we're playing wire to wire the Brett Baer thirty
minutes he was given with Kamala Harris. I think he's
doing probably the best job I've seen any interviewer do
it with the subject who obviously is determined not to
directly answer questions and to simply run out the clock.
I think he's been as firm as you possibly can
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be without crossing a line. And I think in the meantime,
I think she with those who support her that probably
cheering her on, but with those in the middle, I
have to believe it's wait a second, you want my vote,
show me the respect of directly answering the question, and
so I think it's very much the mentality I see
with jury's when I try cases and I'm cross examining
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a witness and they won't answer a question directly. Yours
feel disrespected. They want their questions answered directly. So I
think Kamala Harris is really hurting herself with undecided types
and certainly further energizing Trump supporters by refusing to answer
these questions directly. But I think she really hurt herself
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on one particular response and gave gave the Trump campaign
another a plus commercial to launch.
Speaker 9 (18:23):
Wellcome back to the rest of that interview.
Speaker 8 (18:25):
You're on the Dankpla Show, you're listening to the Dan
Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
I have a lot of respect for Brett Bear. We're
going to get back to that interview if you haven't
been with us yet. In today's show, quick recap, Brettbear
has a half an hour with Kamala Harris.
Speaker 9 (18:43):
That's what she allocated.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
She obviously came in intending to fight and filibuster and
not answer direct questions, and Brettbear has been as aggressive
as humanly possible under these circumstances. It's a tough line
to walk, but He's aired on the side of being
firm and being strong, and I'm just so impressed with
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his performance. And I have to believe that in the end,
her evasion open evasion of these fair questions is really
going to hurt her With truly undecided, So those in
the middle who might be wavering, we'll get into the
substance after we finished the rest of the interview.
Speaker 9 (19:22):
So Ryan, let's pick it up from where we left off.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
It's interesting you said turn the page man and Vice President.
You were asked on two different shows last week, what
if anything you would do differently than President Biden.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Here's what you said.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
Would you have done something differently than President Biden during
the past four years?
Speaker 5 (19:39):
There is not a thing that comes to mind in
terms of and I've been a part of most of
the decisions that have had.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Impact under a Harris administration. What would the major changes
be and what would say the same?
Speaker 5 (19:54):
Sure, Well, I mean, I'm obviously not Joe Biden, and
so that would be one thing in terms, But also
I think it's important to say, with twenty eight days ago,
I'm not Donald Trump.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
So you're not Joe Biden. You're not Donald Trump. But
but nothing comes to mind that you would do differently.
Speaker 5 (20:13):
I mean, be very clear, my presidency will not be
a continuation of Joe Biden's presidency, and like every new
president that comes in to office, I will bring my
life experiences, my professional experiences, and fresh and new ideas.
I represent a new generation of leadership. I, for example,
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am someone who has not spent the majority of my
career in Washington, d C. I invite ideas, whether it
be from the Republicans who are supporting me, who were
just on stage with me minutes ago, and the business
sector and others who can contribute to the decisions that
I make about, for example, my plan for increasing the
supply of housing in America and bringing down the cost
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of housing, addressing the issue of small businesses, which is
about working with the private sector to bring more capital
and access to capital to our small business leaders, including
my plan for a twenty five thousand dollars down payment
assistance for first time home buyers and for small businesses
extending the tax deduction from five thousand dollars to fifty thousands.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
I've heard a lot about those plans in recent days.
Your campaign slogan is a new Way forward and it's
time to turn the page. You've been vice president for
three and a half years. So what are you turning
the page from.
Speaker 5 (21:30):
Well, first of all, turning the page from the last
decade in which we have been burdened with the kind
of rhetoric coming from Donald Trump that has been designed
and implemented to divide our country and Americans literally point
fingers at each other.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
Rhetoric and an approach.
Speaker 5 (21:51):
To leadership that suggests that the strength of a leader
is based on who you beat down instead of what
we all know, the strength of leadership is based on
who you lift up. But an American president, which is
one who understands that the vast majority of us have
more in common.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
Than what separates us.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
People.
Speaker 5 (22:11):
That is about turning the page on rhetoric that people
are frankly exhausted.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
Of Brett more than people to tell the country is
on the wrong track. They say the country is on
the wrong track. If it's on the wrong track, that
track follows three and a half years of you being
vice president and President Biden being president. That is what
they're saying, seventy nine percent of them. Why are they
saying that? If you're turning the page You've been in
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office for three and a.
Speaker 5 (22:38):
Half years and Donald Trump has been running for office.
But that's not going to help You and I both
know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
You and I both know what I'm actually what are
you talking about?
Speaker 5 (22:51):
What I'm talking about is that over the last decade,
people have the cower.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
But listen, over the last.
Speaker 5 (22:59):
Decade, it is clear to me and certainly the Republicans
who are on stage with me, the former chief of
staff to the President Donald Trump, former defense secretaries, the
National Security advisor, and his vice president.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
One that he is unfit to serve, that he is unstable,
that he is dangerous, and that people are exhausted with.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
Someone who professes to be a leader who spends full
time demeaning and engaging in personal grievances and it being
about him the American people.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
People aren't tired of that, that's the case.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Why is half the country supporting him? Why is he
beating you in a lot of swing states. Why if
he's as bad as you say, that half of.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
This country is now supporting this person who could be
the forty seventh president of the United States.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Why is that happening?
Speaker 3 (23:51):
This is an election for president of the United States.
It's not supposed to be easy. I know, but it's
not supposed to be It is not supposed.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
To be a true Are they misguided? Are they stupid?
Speaker 3 (24:04):
What? I would never say that about the American people?
Speaker 5 (24:07):
And in fact, if you listen to Donald Trump, if
you watch any of his rallies, he's the one who
tends to demean and belittle and diminish the American people.
He's the one who talks about an enemy within it within,
an enemy within talking about the American people, suggesting he
would turn the American military on the American people.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
We asked that total life.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
Right aforewards, Harris Faulkner had a town hall.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
And this is how he responded. I heard about that
they were saying. I was like threatening. I'm not threatening anybody.
They're the ones doing the threatening. They do phony investigations.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
I've been investigated more than Alphonse Capponi was.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
The greatest nation. No, it's true, we don't be thinking
of it. It's called weaponization of government is a terrible thing.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
So Brett, I'm sorry.
Speaker 5 (24:56):
And with all due respect, that clip was not what
he has been saying about the enemy within that he
has repeated when he's speaking about the American people.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
That's not what you just showed. That's not what you
just showed. In all fairness and respect to you, the
question that we asked him, you didn't show that.
Speaker 5 (25:15):
And here's the bottom line. He has repeated it many times.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
And you and I both know that. And you and
I both know that.
Speaker 5 (25:22):
He has talked about turning the American military on the
American people. He has talked about going after people who
are engaged in peaceful protest. He has talked about locking
people up because they disagree with him. This is a democracy,
and in a democracy, the president of the United States,
in the United States of America should be willing to
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be able to handle criticism without saying he'd lock people
up for doing it. This is what mistake, which is
why you have someone like the former chairman of the
Joint Chiefs of Status saying what Mark Milly has said
about Donald Trump being a threat to the United States
of America.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
He's quoted in the Bob Woodward book that way. Yes,
let me ask you this man of Vice president.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
You called Donald Trump, you can do that, called Donald
Trump he's misguided, you say.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Now he's unstable?
Speaker 3 (26:20):
Is unstable?
Speaker 2 (26:21):
He's not well. You say he's mentally not stable.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
Let me ask you this, and to many interviewers that
Joe Biden was on his game, that ran around circles
on his staff, when did you first notice that President
Biden's mental faculties appeared diminished?
Speaker 5 (26:36):
Nice, I have watched in from the Oval Office to
the situation room, and he has the judgment and the
experiment and experienced to do exactly what he has done
and making very important decisions on behalf of the American people.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Joe Biden is not on ballot, understand Donald Trump. Donald Trump,
we didn't talked about it.
Speaker 6 (27:01):
And Donald Trump within a few minutes of talking to
President Biden at a fundraiser that he thought, this was
not the same Joe Biden that we saw on the
de base bag is on the ballt I understand you
met with him at least once a week for three
and a half years.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
You didn't have any concerns.
Speaker 5 (27:20):
I think the American people have a concern about Donald Trump,
which is why the people who know him best, leaders
of the national security community have all spoken out. Even
people who worked for him in the Oval Office, worked
with him in the situation room and have said he
is unfit and dangerous and should never be president of
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the United States again, including his former vice president, which
is why the job was open for him to choose
another running mate.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
So that is a fact. That is a fact.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
What we'll do is we'll come back to the rest
of the interview. If you just joined us, thank you.
As soon as we finish it, I'll come back and
I'll do a quick recap. We'll be pulling highlights as well.
It's Brettbear the single finest job I've ever seen, with
tough interview subject one who's trying to filibuster, run out
the clock and obviously avoid answering a direct question.
Speaker 9 (28:23):
You're on the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 8 (28:26):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 9 (28:29):
Glad you're here.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Brettbear interviewed Kamala Harris. They went a half hour, that's
all she'd allow, and he put it straight to tape.
Speaker 9 (28:36):
No edits.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
We've been playing that and then pausing it during our
commercial breaks, and once again.
Speaker 9 (28:41):
We'll pick up where he left off.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
If you just joined us at this point, it would
take too long to summarize, so I'll do that after
we finished this last segment. Only to say though, that
that Brett Behar is doing by far the finest job
I've ever seen any interviewer do with a very tough
subject who is clearly going to avoid, is not going
to answer directly. Is the sitting Vice president. So you
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can only go so far with firmness. But I think
he's striking that balance perfectly. Let's go back to it, right,
Madam Vice President. Two more things.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
You were asked on sixty minutes about the biggest threat
that the world faces, that the US faces.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
This is what you said, Which.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
Foreign country do you consider to be our greatest adversary?
Speaker 5 (29:30):
I think there's an obvious one in mind, which is Iran.
Iran has American blood on their hands. Okay, this attack
on Israel two hundred ballistic missiles. What we need to
do to ensure that Iran never achieves the ability to
be a nuclear power.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
That is one of my highest priorities.
Speaker 4 (29:53):
A number experts start you would say, China. GF Guide
director had said that, but you said Iran. If that's
the case, what do you say to critics who look
at the actions of your administration and say you're not
acting like Iran is the number one?
Speaker 5 (30:07):
Perfect Well, I will tell you most recently, whether it
was in April or in October, and then several hours
on each occasion that Iran posed a threat to Israel.
I was there most recently in the situation room in
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the most recent attack, working with the heads of our
military and doing what America must always do to defend
and to support Israel in its requirement to defend itself,
and to give American support to be able to allow
Israel to have the resources to defend itself against attack,
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including from Iran and Iran's terrorist proceies in the regions.
And that is prompts and my commitment to that is
unyielding and unwavering.
Speaker 4 (31:06):
Critics just say that you either relaxed or failed to
enforce sanctions on Iran, allowing all of this money to
flow into Iran.
Speaker 5 (31:13):
Like Bill, let's go back to Donald Trump, who pulled
out of who pulled out of a deal that would
have actually.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
Put Ron in check.
Speaker 5 (31:23):
During Donald Trump's administration, that Ron that we had a
military base that was attacked where American soldiers suffered traumatic
brain injuries, and Donald Trump dismissed them as one not
to mention, has treated and talked about America's military and
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military service people calling them suppers and losers has.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
Diminished significant over each other. I apologize, and I would like.
Speaker 5 (31:55):
That we would have a conversation that is grounded in
full assessment of the facts, which includes I think this
interview is supposed to be about the choices that your
viewers should be presented about this election, and the contrast
is important and on the subject of Iran, I am
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offering what should be an important contrast that is presented
for folks to make a DISTI contrast if.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
You look at what the administration did and say and
think differently now a vice president. They're wrapping me very
hard here. I hope you got to say what you
wanted to say about Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
There are a lot of things more to say. There
are a lot of things that people want to learn
about you and your policies, and.
Speaker 5 (32:42):
That's why I invite everyone to go to Kamala Harris
dot com and you will see that I have eighty
pages of policies that are quite comprehensive and should be
accessible to anyone who would like to read them, and
it includes what I intend to do about affordable how sing,
what I intend to do about small businesses.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
What I do to ing in our econtomency.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Where you were in twenty nineteen and where you are now.
Speaker 5 (33:07):
America's military, so we have the most lethal and best
fighting force in.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
The world, not a vice president and giving me a
hard right.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
Well, I thank you for the time.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
I thank you for the time.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
Boy. I cannot wait to get your reaction to this
eight five five four zero five eight two five five
text d an five seven seven three nine as we
line up the calls and text. Let me go through
my start to finish notes and give you a few
key thoughts. First of all, again, Brett Bear, what a
superb job.
Speaker 9 (33:35):
And listen.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
I've spent the last forty years, hopefully the next forty
cross examining witnesses, and many of those witnesses are liars.
Many of those witnesses are very evasive. That's what I
get paid to do, is to cross examine them and
expose them as liars and expose them as evasive. And
I think Brett Baar did the best job possible with
Kamala Harris. I have the benefit of having these people
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under oaks and often in front of jurors, often in depositions.
But I have the benefit of having them under oath.
She's not only not under oath, but she's the sitting
vice president. So if you're the interviewer, you know there's
only so far you can go to try to rein
her in. I thought he struck the absolute perfect balance
and exposed her. I think that he exposed her. And
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this is the same dynamic I have in trial. But
when a witness refuses to answer a direct question, it
is better for me than if they had just admitted
the truth on the stand, because by refusing to answer
the direct question, you're essentially admitting that I'm right and
they're wrong. But then you get the added benefit of
them looking dishonest to the jury in refusing to answer
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the question and insulting the jury and refusing to answer
the question. I think that's what Kamala Harris just did.
She admitted the points Bear was making, and she insulted
the jury, the people who are undecided at this point,
who are going to decide this election because they want
the respect act of a direct answer to a direct question.
Speaker 9 (35:02):
She wouldn't do that.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
Now.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
A couple of things she did say I think are
really going to hurt her. Want your take here on
the Dan Kapla show.
This is Dan Caplis and welcome to today's online podcast
edition of The Dan Caplis Show. Please be sure to
give us a five star rating if you'd be so kind,
and to subscribe, download and listen to the show every
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tell you is I think it's going to do in
calculable damage to the American way of Kamala Harris becomes president.
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And that's a prelude to taking you to the Brettbear
interview with Kamala Harris. Now, it was half an hour long,
and it was done straight to tape, no edits, and
Fox began to air at about two and a half
minutes ago. We're going to start at the beginning, and
so I hope you have a blood pressure medication, because
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first of all, you're going to be very impressed with Brettbear.
He is more properly firm with her than any interviewer
we have seen. But what you will see is she
is simply Kamala Harris is simply refusing to answer these
direct questions and instead reverting back to the borders. All
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the Republicans fault, but credit Brett Bher. He's been as
tough as anybody can be under those circumstances. With that said,
we'll go to the start of the interview again and
begin air about three minutes ago. You're on the Dan
Kapla Show.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
Bad Vice President. Thank you for the time.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Thank you, it's good to be with you, Brett.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
You know, voters tell polsters all over the country and
here in Pennsylvania that immigration is one of the key
issues that they're looking at this election, and specifically the
influx of illegal immigrants from more than one hundred and
fifty countries. How many illegal immigrants would you estimate your
administration has released into the country over the last three
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and a half years.
Speaker 5 (01:42):
Well, I'm glad you raised the issue of immigration because
I agree with you. It is a topic of discussion
that people want to rightly have and you know what
I'm going to talk about.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
Yeah, but do you're just a number? Do you think
it's one million, three million?
Speaker 3 (01:56):
Brett, Let's just get to the point, Okay.
Speaker 5 (01:59):
The point is that we have a broken immigration system
that needs to be repaired.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
So your Homeland Security secretary said that eighty five percent of.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Apprehension, I'm not finished.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
We have we have a refreshment of six million people
have been released into the country.
Speaker 2 (02:14):
And let me just finish. I'll get you the question
I promised you I was beginning to answer.
Speaker 4 (02:18):
And when you came into office, your administration immediately reversed
a number of Trump border policies, most significantly the policy
that required illegal immigrants to be detained through deportation, either
in the US or in Mexico. And you switched that policy,
they were released from custody awaiting trial.
Speaker 2 (02:37):
So instead included in those.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
Were a large number of single men, adult men who
went on to commit heinous crimes.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
So, looking back, do you regret the decision.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
To terminate remain in Mexico At the beginning of your administration.
Speaker 5 (02:53):
At the beginning of our administration, within practically hours of
taking the oath, the first bill that we offered Congress,
before we worked on infrastructure, before the Inflation and Reduction Act.
Speaker 3 (03:09):
Before the Chips and Science.
Speaker 5 (03:11):
Act, before any before the bipartisan Safer Communities Act, the
first bill practically within hours of taking the oath, was
a bill to fix our immigration system.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
This man.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
It was called the US Citizen Citizenship Act of two
thousand twenty one.
Speaker 6 (03:28):
Essentially, but I've made a citizenship for I finished.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
I finished responding for but you have to let me finish.
Speaker 4 (03:35):
You had the White House and the House and the Senate,
and they didn't bring.
Speaker 5 (03:38):
Up responding to the point you're raising, and I'd like
to finish. We recognized from day one that to the
point of this being your first question, it is a
priority for US as a nation and for the American people,
and our focus has been on fixing a problem. And
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from day one then we have done a number of things,
including to address our asylum system and put more resources,
getting more judges, what we needed to do to tighten
up penalties and increase penalties for illegal crossings, what we
needed to do to deal with points of entry between
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border entry points.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
That's the work we did, and we worked.
Speaker 5 (04:26):
On supporting what was a bipartisan effort, including some of
the most conservative members of the United States Congress.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
To actually strengthen the border.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
That border bill would have put fifteen hundred more border
agents at the border, which is why I believe the
border patrol agents supported the bill. It would have allowed
us to stem the flow of fentanyl coming into the
United States, which is a scorge affecting people of every background,
every geographic location in our country killing people.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
It would have.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
Allowed us to put more resources into prosecuting transnational criminal organizations,
which I have done. The attorney general, former attorney general
of a border state.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Vice president, a couple of execute the.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Trafficking of drugs, stuns, and human beings. And Donald Trump,
but let me just finish.
Speaker 5 (05:10):
Answer, ushed that bill and told them to kill it
because he preferred to run on a problem instead of
fixing a problem. And in this election, this is rightly
a discussion that the American people want to have, and
what they want are solutions, and they want a president
of the United States was not playing political games with
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the issue.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
I hear you, But Ashley is focused on.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
Six Democrats voted against that bill. It would have allowed
one point eight million illegal immigrants into the country a year.
Speaker 2 (05:40):
A lot of conservatives had a problem with it.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
These are the six Democrats, but more importantly back to
the original premise, Joscelyn Hungary, Rachel Morin, lacln Riley, they
are young women who were brutally assaulted and killed by
some of the men who were released at the beginning
of the administration. Well before I negotiate bipartisan bill, Former
President Clinton actually referred to Lake and Riley Sunday campaigning
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for you, and Georgia is saying, if those men had
been properly vetted, Lake and Riley probably.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
Would not have been killed. So if it wouldn't have happened,
this is well before any.
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Negotiation, This is well before Donald Trump got involved in
the politics. This is a specific policy decision by your
administration to release these men into the country.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
So what I'm saying to you, do you know the
family really I think an apology.
Speaker 5 (06:29):
Let me just say first of all those tragic cases,
there's no question about that.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
There's no question about that.
Speaker 5 (06:38):
And I can't imagine the pain that the families of
those victims have experienced for a lass that should.
Speaker 3 (06:46):
Not have occurred. So that is true.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
It is also true answer the question of security had
actually been passed nine months ago, it would be nine
months that we would have had more border agents at
the border, more support for the folks who are working
around the clock trying to hold.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
It all together.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Madain, Vice President ensure that.
Speaker 5 (07:11):
No future harm would occur. And this election in twenty
days will determine whether we have a president of the
United States who actually cares more about fixing a problem,
even if it is not to their political advantage in
an election.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Because there was a solution, brat Madam.
Speaker 4 (07:30):
Vice President, it was a policy decision in the early
part of your administration.
Speaker 2 (07:34):
I will let one of the mothers talk about it.
Take a listen.
Speaker 7 (07:39):
Because of the Biden Harris administration open border policies, catch
your release, I'm sure they We're ready in the Alternativesty
Detention program. This meant that they were released into the
United States. It was not even a full three weeks
later that they would take my daughter, Jocelyn Nungerra's life.
I believe the Biden Harris administration open border policies are
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responsible for the death of my daughter.
Speaker 2 (08:02):
That's the early days. So do you owe them an apologies?
Speaker 3 (08:07):
Well, I shall tell you that I am so sorry
for her loss. I'm so sorry for her loss, and
answer the question merely.
Speaker 5 (08:15):
But let's talk about what is happening right now with
an individual who does not want to participate in solutions.
Speaker 3 (08:24):
Let's talk about that as well.
Speaker 5 (08:26):
Right, I want to answer in all fairness, I told
you I feel awful for what she and her family
have experienced.
Speaker 2 (08:33):
During that time.
Speaker 4 (08:34):
You said repeatedly that the border was secure. When in
your mind did it start becoming a crisis.
Speaker 5 (08:39):
Nice, We've had a broken immigration system transcending by the
way Donald Trump's administration even before.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Let's all be honest about that.
Speaker 5 (08:49):
I have no pride in saying that this is a
perfect immigration system.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
I've been clear. I think we all are that it
needs to be fixed.
Speaker 5 (08:58):
We need more to I was just own at the
border talking with border agents and they will tell you,
and I'm sure you probably I know you investigate and
you are a series journalist. They will tell you we
need more judges, we need to we need to process
those cases faster, we need this support for those cases
that should be prosecuted.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
They need more resources.
Speaker 5 (09:20):
And Congress ultimately is the only place that that's going
to get fixed.
Speaker 2 (09:25):
Brett.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
That's how the system works.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
That's the premise's question.
Speaker 4 (09:28):
There were ninety plus executive orders that were rescinded in
the first days. Many of those were Trump border policies.
I'm not going to stay here because there's other things
to talk about. But you frequently talked to the Border
Patrol Union for support of that bipartisan bill, and they did.
They supported it, but they also just endorsed Donald Trump
and said, you've been quote a failure with border security.
Speaker 2 (09:49):
Why do you think they said that?
Speaker 1 (09:50):
Okay, let's pick her answer up out of the break.
We're taking this about three minutes behind because it started
three minutes before we came on air. When we come back,
we'll pick it up from right there. Tremendous job by
Brett Bear. I mean, you can't force her to answer questions.
She'll left to pay a political price for her dishonest evasion.
But great job by Brett Behar. You're on the Dan
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Capla Show.
Speaker 8 (10:14):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 9 (10:17):
Here's what we're doing. You're on the Dan Capla Show.
Thank you for being here.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
We are playing start to finish Brett Bear's interview with
Kamala Harris. She gave him thirty minutes. He did it
straight to tape, no edits, and so we obviously paused.
Speaker 9 (10:33):
It for the break. We'll pick it up where we
left off.
Speaker 1 (10:35):
If you weren't with us the quick recap, Brett Behar
is doing a fantastic job.
Speaker 9 (10:41):
In my opinion.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
Clearly Kamala Harris came in with a plan. He's only
got thirty minutes with me. I'm not going to answer
anything of substance. I'm going to fight with him, and
I'm going to gain ground by appearing strong by fighting
with him. So that's what we're in the middle of.
I think Bear is being masterful, but dub it.
Speaker 9 (11:02):
Here we go.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
There's other things to talk about.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
But you frequently talked to the Border Patrol Union for
support of that bipartisan bill, and they did. They supported it,
but they also just endorsed Donald Trump and said, you've
been quote a failure with border security.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
Why do you think they said that.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
I think they're frustrated, and I get it. They want support.
They want support, and that's what that border security bill
would have done.
Speaker 5 (11:27):
These guys down at the border, these men and women,
they're working hard, they're working around the clock.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
I get it.
Speaker 4 (11:35):
There's a lot of people that look back in what
you said at twenty nineteen when you first ran for president,
and there have been changes, and you've talked about some
of them. When it comes to immigration, you supported allowing
immigrants in the country illegally to apply for driver's license,
to qualify for free tuition at universities, to be enrolled
in free healthcare, do you still support those things?
Speaker 5 (11:56):
Listen, that was five years ago, and I'm very clear
that I will follow the law. I have made that
statement over and over again, and as Vice president of
the United States, that's exactly what I've done.
Speaker 4 (12:05):
Not to mention before you, if that's the case, you
chose a running mate, Tim Walls, governor of Minnesota, who
signed those very things into state law.
Speaker 2 (12:15):
So do you support that?
Speaker 5 (12:18):
We are very clear, and I am very clear as
is Tim Walls, that we must support and enforce federal law,
and that is exactly what we will do.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
So decriminalizing border crossings, like you said in twenty nineteen.
Speaker 5 (12:34):
I do not believe in decriminalizing border crossings, and I've
not done that as vice president.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
I will not do that as president.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
So these are that you've had.
Speaker 3 (12:43):
Well, let's be very clear.
Speaker 5 (12:45):
I'm the only person who's running for president who is
prosecuted transnational criminal organizations, from the Sinaloa cartel buster to
the Guadalajara Quota cartel, to people who have trafficked and guns, drugs,
and human beings. I have spent a significant part of
my career going after people who present a threat to
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the safety of the American people and cross our border
with the intent of doing US harm and cross our
border illegally, and I will do that work as vice president.
Speaker 3 (13:17):
I take that work quite seriously.
Speaker 4 (13:19):
This is a time when voters, especially here in Pennsylvania,
are inundated with commercials and ads. They just wanted to
stop because it's every commercial but many.
Speaker 2 (13:28):
Of them add noise. But a few of them seem
to break through.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
This particular one from the Trump campaign has gotten a
lot of attention of.
Speaker 1 (13:36):
Spot War funded six Changes for prisoners.
Speaker 5 (13:40):
Surgery for prisoners for prisoners, every transgender inmate in the
prison system would have access.
Speaker 4 (13:50):
So are you still in support of using taxpayer dollars
to help prison inmates or detain illegal aliens to transition
to another gender.
Speaker 3 (13:58):
I will follow the law. And it's a law that
Donald Trump actually what a gift to.
Speaker 5 (14:03):
Trump your probably now it's a public report that under
Donald Trump's administration, these surgeries were available to on a
medical necessity basis to people in the federal prison system.
And I think, frankly, that ad from the Trump campaign
is a little bit of like throwing stones when you're
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living in a glasshouse.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
The Trump aids say that he never advocated for that
prison policy, and no gender transition had to take.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
Responsible for what happened in your administration.
Speaker 4 (14:34):
Yeah, no surgeries happened in this president. Would you still
advocate for using task pay of dollars for gender reassignments.
Speaker 3 (14:41):
I will follow the law just as I think so
he did.
Speaker 2 (14:46):
He would have to say, as president, like I said.
Speaker 5 (14:48):
I think it's real he spent twenty million dollars on
those ads trying to create a sense of fear in
the voters because he actually.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Has no plan well based election that is about basing.
Speaker 5 (15:00):
On the needs of the American people, Whereas twenty million
dollars in that ad on an issue that, as it
relates to the biggest issues that affect the American people,
is really quite remote.
Speaker 3 (15:14):
And again his policy with the American people. Look at
where we are.
Speaker 5 (15:18):
Though they plans for the American people. I'm offering a
plan to deal with affordable housing. I'm offering a plan
to deal with what we need to do to strengthen
small businesses, which are the backbone of America's economy. I
am offering a plan that is about taking care of
young parents and giving them the support they need. My
plans for the economy will strengthen the economy, as have
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been reviewed by sixteen Nobel Laureates, Goldman, Sachs, Moody's, and
recently the Wall Street Journal, which have all studied our
plans and have indicated My plans for our economy would
strengthen our economy.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
His would make them weaker, igne.
Speaker 5 (15:54):
Inflation and invite a recession by the middle of next year.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
Those are the facts.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
Why do you think more people say they trust him
on the economy then.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
They trust you.
Speaker 5 (16:02):
I think that when you look at an analysis of
our plans for what we would do as president of
the United States, it has been clear to those who
study and understand how economic policy works that moving forward
because I do believe the American people are ready to
turn the page on the divine and the type of
(16:24):
rhetoric that has come out of Donald Trump. People are
ready to chart a new way forward, and they want
a president who has a plan for the future and
a plan that is sound and will strengthen our country.
My plan for the economy does exactly that. His plan
would be again to give tax cuts to billionaires and
the biggest corporations in our country and blow up our.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
Deficit it's interesting you said turn the page Man and
Vice President. You were asked on two different shows last week,
what if anything you would do differently than President Biden.
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Here's what you said.
Speaker 4 (16:54):
Would you have done something differently than President Biden during
the past four years?
Speaker 3 (17:00):
There is done a thing that comes to mind in terms.
Speaker 5 (17:03):
Of and I've been a part of most of the
decisions that have had impact.
Speaker 1 (17:08):
Let's pause it there, Ryan, because we want to make
sure we get her full answer, and we're up against
our break.
Speaker 9 (17:14):
So if you just joined us, thank you.
Speaker 1 (17:15):
Obviously we're playing wire to wire the Brett Baer thirty
minutes he was given with Kamala Harris. I think he's
doing probably the best job I've seen any interviewer do
it with the subject who obviously is determined not to
directly answer questions and to simply run out the clock.
I think he's been as firm as you possibly can
(17:36):
be without crossing a line. And I think in the meantime,
I think she with those who support her that probably
cheering her on, but with those in the middle, I
have to believe it's wait a second, you want my vote,
show me the respect of directly answering the question, and
so I think it's very much the mentality I see
with jury's when I try cases and I'm cross examining
(17:56):
a witness and they won't answer a question directly. Yours
feel disrespected. They want their questions answered directly. So I
think Kamala Harris is really hurting herself with undecided types
and certainly further energizing Trump supporters by refusing to answer
these questions directly. But I think she really hurt herself
(18:17):
on one particular response and gave gave the Trump campaign
another a plus commercial to launch.
Speaker 9 (18:23):
Wellcome back to the rest of that interview.
Speaker 8 (18:25):
You're on the Dankpla Show, you're listening to the Dan
Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
I have a lot of respect for Brett Bear. We're
going to get back to that interview if you haven't
been with us yet. In today's show, quick recap, Brettbear
has a half an hour with Kamala Harris.
Speaker 9 (18:43):
That's what she allocated.
Speaker 1 (18:45):
She obviously came in intending to fight and filibuster and
not answer direct questions, and Brettbear has been as aggressive
as humanly possible under these circumstances. It's a tough line
to walk, but He's aired on the side of being
firm and being strong, and I'm just so impressed with
(19:05):
his performance. And I have to believe that in the end,
her evasion open evasion of these fair questions is really
going to hurt her With truly undecided, So those in
the middle who might be wavering, we'll get into the
substance after we finished the rest of the interview.
Speaker 9 (19:22):
So Ryan, let's pick it up from where we left off.
Speaker 4 (19:24):
It's interesting you said turn the page man and Vice President.
You were asked on two different shows last week, what
if anything you would do differently than President Biden.
Speaker 2 (19:31):
Here's what you said.
Speaker 4 (19:32):
Would you have done something differently than President Biden during
the past four years?
Speaker 5 (19:39):
There is not a thing that comes to mind in
terms of and I've been a part of most of
the decisions that have had.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Impact under a Harris administration. What would the major changes
be and what would say the same?
Speaker 5 (19:54):
Sure, Well, I mean, I'm obviously not Joe Biden, and
so that would be one thing in terms, But also
I think it's important to say, with twenty eight days ago,
I'm not Donald Trump.
Speaker 4 (20:07):
So you're not Joe Biden. You're not Donald Trump. But
but nothing comes to mind that you would do differently.
Speaker 5 (20:13):
I mean, be very clear, my presidency will not be
a continuation of Joe Biden's presidency, and like every new
president that comes in to office, I will bring my
life experiences, my professional experiences, and fresh and new ideas.
I represent a new generation of leadership. I, for example,
(20:34):
am someone who has not spent the majority of my
career in Washington, d C. I invite ideas, whether it
be from the Republicans who are supporting me, who were
just on stage with me minutes ago, and the business
sector and others who can contribute to the decisions that
I make about, for example, my plan for increasing the
supply of housing in America and bringing down the cost
(20:56):
of housing, addressing the issue of small businesses, which is
about working with the private sector to bring more capital
and access to capital to our small business leaders, including
my plan for a twenty five thousand dollars down payment
assistance for first time home buyers and for small businesses
extending the tax deduction from five thousand dollars to fifty thousands.
Speaker 4 (21:18):
I've heard a lot about those plans in recent days.
Your campaign slogan is a new Way forward and it's
time to turn the page. You've been vice president for
three and a half years. So what are you turning
the page from.
Speaker 5 (21:30):
Well, first of all, turning the page from the last
decade in which we have been burdened with the kind
of rhetoric coming from Donald Trump that has been designed
and implemented to divide our country and Americans literally point
fingers at each other.
Speaker 3 (21:49):
Rhetoric and an approach.
Speaker 5 (21:51):
To leadership that suggests that the strength of a leader
is based on who you beat down instead of what
we all know, the strength of leadership is based on
who you lift up. But an American president, which is
one who understands that the vast majority of us have
more in common.
Speaker 3 (22:07):
Than what separates us.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
People.
Speaker 5 (22:11):
That is about turning the page on rhetoric that people
are frankly exhausted.
Speaker 4 (22:16):
Of Brett more than people to tell the country is
on the wrong track. They say the country is on
the wrong track. If it's on the wrong track, that
track follows three and a half years of you being
vice president and President Biden being president. That is what
they're saying, seventy nine percent of them. Why are they
saying that? If you're turning the page You've been in
(22:37):
office for three and a.
Speaker 5 (22:38):
Half years and Donald Trump has been running for office.
But that's not going to help You and I both
know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2 (22:48):
You and I both know what I'm actually what are
you talking about?
Speaker 5 (22:51):
What I'm talking about is that over the last decade,
people have the cower.
Speaker 3 (22:56):
But listen, over the last.
Speaker 5 (22:59):
Decade, it is clear to me and certainly the Republicans
who are on stage with me, the former chief of
staff to the President Donald Trump, former defense secretaries, the
National Security advisor, and his vice president.
Speaker 3 (23:14):
One that he is unfit to serve, that he is unstable,
that he is dangerous, and that people are exhausted with.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
Someone who professes to be a leader who spends full
time demeaning and engaging in personal grievances and it being
about him the American people.
Speaker 3 (23:34):
People aren't tired of that, that's the case.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Why is half the country supporting him? Why is he
beating you in a lot of swing states. Why if
he's as bad as you say, that half of.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
This country is now supporting this person who could be
the forty seventh president of the United States.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
Why is that happening?
Speaker 3 (23:51):
This is an election for president of the United States.
It's not supposed to be easy. I know, but it's
not supposed to be It is not supposed.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
To be a true Are they misguided? Are they stupid?
Speaker 3 (24:04):
What? I would never say that about the American people?
Speaker 5 (24:07):
And in fact, if you listen to Donald Trump, if
you watch any of his rallies, he's the one who
tends to demean and belittle and diminish the American people.
He's the one who talks about an enemy within it within,
an enemy within talking about the American people, suggesting he
would turn the American military on the American people.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
We asked that total life.
Speaker 4 (24:31):
Right aforewards, Harris Faulkner had a town hall.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
And this is how he responded. I heard about that
they were saying. I was like threatening. I'm not threatening anybody.
They're the ones doing the threatening. They do phony investigations.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
I've been investigated more than Alphonse Capponi was.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
The greatest nation. No, it's true, we don't be thinking
of it. It's called weaponization of government is a terrible thing.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
So Brett, I'm sorry.
Speaker 5 (24:56):
And with all due respect, that clip was not what
he has been saying about the enemy within that he
has repeated when he's speaking about the American people.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
That's not what you just showed. That's not what you
just showed. In all fairness and respect to you, the
question that we asked him, you didn't show that.
Speaker 5 (25:15):
And here's the bottom line. He has repeated it many times.
Speaker 3 (25:18):
And you and I both know that. And you and
I both know that.
Speaker 5 (25:22):
He has talked about turning the American military on the
American people. He has talked about going after people who
are engaged in peaceful protest. He has talked about locking
people up because they disagree with him. This is a democracy,
and in a democracy, the president of the United States,
in the United States of America should be willing to
(25:45):
be able to handle criticism without saying he'd lock people
up for doing it. This is what mistake, which is
why you have someone like the former chairman of the
Joint Chiefs of Status saying what Mark Milly has said
about Donald Trump being a threat to the United States
of America.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
He's quoted in the Bob Woodward book that way. Yes,
let me ask you this man of Vice president.
Speaker 4 (26:11):
You called Donald Trump, you can do that, called Donald
Trump he's misguided, you say.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Now he's unstable?
Speaker 3 (26:20):
Is unstable?
Speaker 2 (26:21):
He's not well. You say he's mentally not stable.
Speaker 4 (26:24):
Let me ask you this, and to many interviewers that
Joe Biden was on his game, that ran around circles
on his staff, when did you first notice that President
Biden's mental faculties appeared diminished?
Speaker 5 (26:36):
Nice, I have watched in from the Oval Office to
the situation room, and he has the judgment and the
experiment and experienced to do exactly what he has done
and making very important decisions on behalf of the American people.
Speaker 3 (26:57):
Joe Biden is not on ballot, understand Donald Trump. Donald Trump,
we didn't talked about it.
Speaker 6 (27:01):
And Donald Trump within a few minutes of talking to
President Biden at a fundraiser that he thought, this was
not the same Joe Biden that we saw on the
de base bag is on the ballt I understand you
met with him at least once a week for three
and a half years.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
You didn't have any concerns.
Speaker 5 (27:20):
I think the American people have a concern about Donald Trump,
which is why the people who know him best, leaders
of the national security community have all spoken out. Even
people who worked for him in the Oval Office, worked
with him in the situation room and have said he
is unfit and dangerous and should never be president of
(27:44):
the United States again, including his former vice president, which
is why the job was open for him to choose
another running mate.
Speaker 3 (27:54):
So that is a fact. That is a fact.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
What we'll do is we'll come back to the rest
of the interview. If you just joined us, thank you.
As soon as we finish it, I'll come back and
I'll do a quick recap. We'll be pulling highlights as well.
It's Brettbear the single finest job I've ever seen, with
tough interview subject one who's trying to filibuster, run out
the clock and obviously avoid answering a direct question.
Speaker 9 (28:23):
You're on the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 8 (28:26):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 9 (28:29):
Glad you're here.
Speaker 1 (28:31):
Brettbear interviewed Kamala Harris. They went a half hour, that's
all she'd allow, and he put it straight to tape.
Speaker 9 (28:36):
No edits.
Speaker 1 (28:37):
We've been playing that and then pausing it during our
commercial breaks, and once again.
Speaker 9 (28:41):
We'll pick up where he left off.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
If you just joined us at this point, it would
take too long to summarize, so I'll do that after
we finished this last segment. Only to say though, that
that Brett Behar is doing by far the finest job
I've ever seen any interviewer do with a very tough
subject who is clearly going to avoid, is not going
to answer directly. Is the sitting Vice president. So you
(29:05):
can only go so far with firmness. But I think
he's striking that balance perfectly. Let's go back to it, right,
Madam Vice President. Two more things.
Speaker 4 (29:16):
You were asked on sixty minutes about the biggest threat
that the world faces, that the US faces.
Speaker 2 (29:22):
This is what you said, Which.
Speaker 4 (29:25):
Foreign country do you consider to be our greatest adversary?
Speaker 5 (29:30):
I think there's an obvious one in mind, which is Iran.
Iran has American blood on their hands. Okay, this attack
on Israel two hundred ballistic missiles. What we need to
do to ensure that Iran never achieves the ability to
be a nuclear power.
Speaker 3 (29:51):
That is one of my highest priorities.
Speaker 4 (29:53):
A number experts start you would say, China. GF Guide
director had said that, but you said Iran. If that's
the case, what do you say to critics who look
at the actions of your administration and say you're not
acting like Iran is the number one?
Speaker 5 (30:07):
Perfect Well, I will tell you most recently, whether it
was in April or in October, and then several hours
on each occasion that Iran posed a threat to Israel.
I was there most recently in the situation room in
(30:29):
the most recent attack, working with the heads of our
military and doing what America must always do to defend
and to support Israel in its requirement to defend itself,
and to give American support to be able to allow
Israel to have the resources to defend itself against attack,
(30:54):
including from Iran and Iran's terrorist proceies in the regions.
And that is prompts and my commitment to that is
unyielding and unwavering.
Speaker 4 (31:06):
Critics just say that you either relaxed or failed to
enforce sanctions on Iran, allowing all of this money to
flow into Iran.
Speaker 5 (31:13):
Like Bill, let's go back to Donald Trump, who pulled
out of who pulled out of a deal that would
have actually.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
Put Ron in check.
Speaker 5 (31:23):
During Donald Trump's administration, that Ron that we had a
military base that was attacked where American soldiers suffered traumatic
brain injuries, and Donald Trump dismissed them as one not
to mention, has treated and talked about America's military and
(31:45):
military service people calling them suppers and losers has.
Speaker 3 (31:50):
Diminished significant over each other. I apologize, and I would like.
Speaker 5 (31:55):
That we would have a conversation that is grounded in
full assessment of the facts, which includes I think this
interview is supposed to be about the choices that your
viewers should be presented about this election, and the contrast
is important and on the subject of Iran, I am
(32:15):
offering what should be an important contrast that is presented
for folks to make a DISTI contrast if.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
You look at what the administration did and say and
think differently now a vice president. They're wrapping me very
hard here. I hope you got to say what you
wanted to say about Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (32:35):
There are a lot of things more to say. There
are a lot of things that people want to learn
about you and your policies, and.
Speaker 5 (32:42):
That's why I invite everyone to go to Kamala Harris
dot com and you will see that I have eighty
pages of policies that are quite comprehensive and should be
accessible to anyone who would like to read them, and
it includes what I intend to do about affordable how sing,
what I intend to do about small businesses.
Speaker 3 (33:02):
What I do to ing in our econtomency.
Speaker 2 (33:05):
Where you were in twenty nineteen and where you are now.
Speaker 5 (33:07):
America's military, so we have the most lethal and best
fighting force in.
Speaker 2 (33:12):
The world, not a vice president and giving me a
hard right.
Speaker 3 (33:15):
Well, I thank you for the time.
Speaker 2 (33:16):
I thank you for the time.
Speaker 1 (33:17):
Boy. I cannot wait to get your reaction to this
eight five five four zero five eight two five five
text d an five seven seven three nine as we
line up the calls and text. Let me go through
my start to finish notes and give you a few
key thoughts. First of all, again, Brett Bear, what a
superb job.
Speaker 9 (33:35):
And listen.
Speaker 1 (33:35):
I've spent the last forty years, hopefully the next forty
cross examining witnesses, and many of those witnesses are liars.
Many of those witnesses are very evasive. That's what I
get paid to do, is to cross examine them and
expose them as liars and expose them as evasive. And
I think Brett Baar did the best job possible with
Kamala Harris. I have the benefit of having these people
(33:57):
under oaks and often in front of jurors, often in depositions.
But I have the benefit of having them under oath.
She's not only not under oath, but she's the sitting
vice president. So if you're the interviewer, you know there's
only so far you can go to try to rein
her in. I thought he struck the absolute perfect balance
and exposed her. I think that he exposed her. And
(34:19):
this is the same dynamic I have in trial. But
when a witness refuses to answer a direct question, it
is better for me than if they had just admitted
the truth on the stand, because by refusing to answer
the direct question, you're essentially admitting that I'm right and
they're wrong. But then you get the added benefit of
them looking dishonest to the jury in refusing to answer
(34:43):
the question and insulting the jury and refusing to answer
the question. I think that's what Kamala Harris just did.
She admitted the points Bear was making, and she insulted
the jury, the people who are undecided at this point,
who are going to decide this election because they want
the respect act of a direct answer to a direct question.
Speaker 9 (35:02):
She wouldn't do that.
Speaker 2 (35:04):
Now.
Speaker 1 (35:04):
A couple of things she did say I think are
really going to hurt her. Want your take here on
the Dan Kapla show.
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