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November 11, 2024 35 mins
When the early returns showed him down on Election Night, Gabe Evans never gave up hope and calculated that there was still a mathematical path for victory. After tremendous teamwork from his own staff and other Republican officials and candidates, Gabe was proven right. He joins Dan to discuss the keys to his remarkable victory over incumbent Rep. Yadira Caraveo (D), flipping a crucial seat red for House Republicans looking to stay in the majority for the 119th U.S. Congress. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Dan Caplis and welcome to today's online podcast
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
Let the celebration continue, and no better way to do that,
especially on Veterans Day with a veteran Blackhawk helicopter pilot
served in the Middle East, also as a police officer
for ten years in Aravada. So a veteran who served
his country in that very dangerous way, but who's now
serving his country in another extraordinarily important way, and that

(00:39):
is Gabe Evans, who just pulled off the upset. He
just won CD eight, so very important for Colorado and
for the nation, the GOP majority nationwide. Gabe Evans, welcome
back to the Dankpla Show.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
Always great to be on with you.

Speaker 4 (00:55):
Well, I would hope, especially today.

Speaker 2 (00:57):
I mean, before we get into all this stuff, I mean,
how does it feel?

Speaker 4 (01:02):
I mean, just just as a human, how does it feel?

Speaker 2 (01:05):
Because this was a tough nut to crack, and your
opponent had more money, your opponent had the media, your
opponent had pretty much everything going for So how does
it feel?

Speaker 3 (01:18):
I mean, quite honestly, it's still surreal. And while all
of this, you know, this national level politics is going on,
I'm still Dad, which means that yesterday afternoon, after a
whole bunch of phone calls, I still had to tear
apart the dishwasher because the handle broke two weeks ago.
And I got to go to Washington, d C. For
two weeks starting tomorrow for freshman orientation. And I'm going

(01:38):
to be in trouble if I leave a non function dishwasher.

Speaker 4 (01:41):
Behind its such a How old are the kids eight
and twelve? Do they get it? Oh?

Speaker 2 (01:48):
They do, okay, okay? And so how did they react
to the win? And I know this was drawn out
just because of the how close the race was and
all that, but how did they handle all that?

Speaker 3 (02:01):
I mean, they've been some of my biggest campaigners. They
knock on the doors with me, they go to the
political events with me. When we're driving around, we talk
about this race. We talk and they get it because
they've also seen you know, my oldest son is old
enough to remember when I was still in the military.
Both of them remember law enforcement, and so they understand
you know, from their their you know, eight and twelve
year old perspective, what's going on in in the country

(02:23):
and the state and the community. They understand, you know,
basic things about crime and why it's wrong to have
a soft on crime approach that results in Colorado being
the third most dangerous state of the nation, the number
one state of the nation for bank robberies. Almost ten
percent of bank robberies that happened across the country are
happening right here in Colorado. And so they get it.

(02:45):
They understand why it's important. And of course, you know,
they're eight and twelve year olds, they get sick of
it too after a while and they want to go
just you know, play games with dad. But they've been
fantastic along this campaign trail. My wife has been an
absolute rock and just so great. Thankful to everybody that's
supported us along the way and keep supporting us. You know,
the work is just getting started. It's time to roll

(03:07):
up our sleeves and get to work in Washington, d C.
Now and deliver on all of these things that we
talked about over the campaign trail.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
Yeah, and that's certainly going to be real important. But
I would expect they're very, very proud of you right
now because that was such a major accomplishment, gab And
and as you know, I mean, one of the reasons
I'm so excited about this is that obviously you're going
to be great in the job. And I do think
that matters a lot because I think Colorado, you know,
in significant part because of your win, is maybe some

(03:35):
people are going to give the GOP another look. Right
Obviously they didn't CD eight, which is why you won,
because they gave the GOP another look because of you.
And so now they're looking at some really talented people
in these jobs. And I think you, along with others
who were elected to Congress and some other positions, are
going to are really going to mark the turnaround. And

(03:56):
I think your race in particular gave I think when
history looks back on this, I think your win is
going to be viewed as a turning point for the
GOP in Colorado back toward being competitive statewide, back toward
a level of respect maybe we haven't enjoyed.

Speaker 4 (04:13):
For a while. And I think it's a turning.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
Point well, and we said that all along throughout the
campaign that you know, Colorado right now, it's been under
one party control for six years. The Democrats have controlled
the House, the Senate, the governorship. You know, they've controlled
seven of the ten members to the US House and
the US Senate from Congress, and that level of echo

(04:37):
chamber and groupthink just leads to bad policy decisions. And
so by flipping this seat, by being able to send
a four to four delegation to Congress for Republicans for
Democrats to Congress from the US House, I mean, not
only does this help us at the national level, And
make no mistake, like Colorado is going to be in
a tremendously important position to be able to benefit from

(04:59):
us slipping lipping this race because of the national attention
that it's brought. So we'll be able to not only
just represent Colorado very effectively at the national level, but
it's also going to help us here in the state level,
drive that pendulum back towards center, help us have better
dialogue at policies at the state level, and get a
little bit out of that one party, far left echo

(05:21):
chamber that's dominated the state for the last six years,
and that unfortunately in large part, has contributed to a
lot of the negative things that we've seen the crime rates,
the cost of living, the fact that, as we saw
a couple of weeks ago, we get international criminal organizations trendy.
Our one is wanting to set up shop in Colorado
specifically because of the soft on crime sanctuary state policies.

(05:43):
And so by being able to flip this seat again,
we drive that pendulum back towards center to a place
of dialogue, of collaboration and conversation, because we're starting to
break down the echo chamber that's dominated state politics for
six years now.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
Yeah, and in terms of Cape Evans obviously guessing in
terms of effectiveness in DC. One thing that's got to
help is you and Mike Johnson have to be like
best bros right now, right. I mean, you guys have
spent so much time together. He was so fond of you,
so involved in your race. It's got to help to
go in with that kind of relationship.

Speaker 3 (06:20):
Again. Colorado benefits from that. I mean, pretty much every
national forecaster is saying that when the few remaining uncalled
House races around the country are called, Republicans are again
going to have a very narrow majority in the US
House and there's only I think going to be maybe
four or five seats where a Democrat, excuse me, a

(06:40):
Republican challenger such as myself was able to unseat a
Democrat incumbent. So when we're talking potentially a five seat
majority in the US House, and as one of the
five four or five races where a Republican challenger actually
flipped the seat, that gives a lot of credibility for
to me to be able to again effectively advocate for

(07:03):
Colorado in the eighth Congressional district.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
Right, you go in with some hard earned street credit.
I imagine you're going to get a lot of high
fives this you walked into the Capitol and head down
those hallways. But yeah, I think there are so many
reasons you won. But there are also the reasons I'm
so optimistic about where this is going.

Speaker 4 (07:22):
You know in CD eight, you know.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
Year after year after year, because you were so skilled
out there in the campaign trail. I mean, the job
you did in that debate, the KUSA debate, when they
come out, Man, they were blistering you. Kyle Clark was
blistering you, and you just kept your composure. You kept
it together. You were calm and super sharp and quick
at the same time mentally and you were just able

(07:46):
to parry all of that. Anybody watching that had to
walk away and say this is a special talent.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
Well, it was a talent that in some ways was honed.
Being a police officer for ten years. One of the
statistics I'm most proud of in my law enforcement career
is ten years of being a cop and I only
really ever got into two fights. And that's because I
you know, if I need to fight, I will fight.
But I put an emphasis on communicating, on collaborating, on
you know, as we would say in police lingo, trying

(08:17):
to talk them into handcuffs if you have to make
an arrest, rather than fight them into handcuffs. And so
carrying those just those communication skills to the state legislature,
to Congress and in all of the conversations, I think
is something that I'm going to you know, I'm good
at and I'm going to keep making sure that I
get better at it, because when we have true conversation,

(08:37):
when we have true dialogue and true collaboration, out of
that is where you get the best policy decisions. And
like I said, you know it works on the streets.
As a cop, I don't want to fight anybody. You
wake up sore. There's lots of paperwork. It's dangerous. So
being able to successfully result these peacefully on the streets
through good communication skills, you know, that translates directly to

(08:58):
actually being able to get things done, to be able
to deliver for this district and for Colorado.

Speaker 4 (09:03):
In congress Man, that is such a great point.

Speaker 2 (09:05):
I had not thought of because as you were saying
that gave, I was thinking to my dad. It was
a thirty year Chicago police officer, big tough, strong guy,
worked on the South side of Chicago, and people asked him,
you know, hey, what are you most proud of? And
he said, most proud of the fact I never fired
my weapon. You know, thirty years the most dangerous neighborhoods
like you. He was able to de escalate, manage win

(09:29):
because you guys always have to win, right as cops.
But he was able to do it without ever firing
his weapon, which is no knock on the guys and
gals who have to fire the weapon. I'm just saying
that was a point of pride for him, and so
that makes perfect sense where you get this really impressive skill.
But as you know, and I can see, you're already
doing it, which is part of why you're a winner.

(09:51):
You know, the race is on now for the twenty
six cycle in that district. So how can people support
you as you continue this fight.

Speaker 3 (10:01):
Again. I mean, it's the same way that we ran
the campaign before. As I'm out at events or on
radio shows like this, or interacting with the community, I
need to hear from the community. I can't do my
job as a representative if I'm not getting the real world, unfiltered,
raw boots on the ground, truth about what's going on,
what's happening. So as we get the office up and

(10:21):
running and we start to be able to hire some
of that congressional staff to make sure that we're providing
good services to the constituents, don't hesitate to reach out.
We're here to serve you. That's the job of a
representative to represent the people and to be available and
accessible to the folks in the district. So that's the
first thing, whether you voted for me or not. You know,

(10:42):
much like when I was a police officer, nobody cared
what my political party was, and I didn't care what
your political party was. We were there to work together
to solve a problem in the community. And that's my
promise to the folks in this district. Whether you voted
FREMI or not, I'm here to work for you, so
don't ever hesitate to reach out.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
Well, both, congratulations and thank you because your win. It's
the biggest win in Colorado since Corey Gardner and it's
going to reverberate in so many different ways. So thank you, Gabe,
appreciate the time today and look forward to what's to come.

Speaker 3 (11:13):
Oh, thank you so much. And thank you to again
all of the veterans and all of their families today
on Veterans Day. My wife and I have been married
for fifteen years a little bit more. She was with
me through my entire Army career, and so we know
that our service members serve, but the families serve right
along with them. So thank you to all of the
veterans that are listening as well and your families.

Speaker 4 (11:31):
Amen to that. Well, on with the fight and we'll
talk soon.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
Thank you so much.

Speaker 4 (11:36):
Take thank you. That is Gabe Evans. Wow, big big win. Hey,
when we come back, we'll talk about the effects of that.
Am I right? Is this the turnaround in Colorado?

Speaker 2 (11:47):
The Gabe Evans victory what more does the GOP and
Colorado have to do to win and win state wide?

Speaker 4 (11:53):
You're on the Dan Kapla Show.

Speaker 5 (11:56):
And now back to the Dan Kapla Show podcast.

Speaker 4 (11:59):
Tom, There's been a more perfect guy for a job.

Speaker 6 (12:05):
I see you on TV always angry. I see you
touched my front Conne show. I'm angry because I am
angry because I mentioned earlier about thirty one percent of
women admitted to being a sexual assault in making this journey,
we handled this administration the most secure border in my lifetime,
and they unsecured it on purpose.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
You know, I don't think Trump could be off to
a better start, just in terms of everything, including the
people he's putting together, because he was the first to
tell you right that that is one regret from the
first term was the circus did my words? You know,
just not having the right team and play some good people,
but not having the right team.

Speaker 4 (12:41):
And wow, it looks like we haven't seen this in
a while.

Speaker 2 (12:45):
That year the historian, right, Grover Cleveland, maybe, and how
many years was there between there there's only been this
one other president who served two nonconsecutive terms. But I
think having those four years and time to think about
it and time to think about. Okay, if I get
that next chance, how am I going to nail it?
I think we're watching it unfold right now because Holman,

(13:07):
you've heard by now, obviously is going to be the
borders are and there has never been a more perfect
guy for that job.

Speaker 4 (13:14):
And you heard that garbage from ABC News.

Speaker 2 (13:16):
At the top the National News cast at the top
of this hour where they completely misrepresent what Trump's about
to do, and they do a whole sky is falling thing.
My lord, it's no. They're going to go after the
people here illegally who have also committed other crimes while here,
particularly dangerous crimes, and they're going to start there, and

(13:37):
they're going to get those people out of the country.
And anybody would object to that, anybody you would object
to that is the worst possible American because anybody who
would object to that is somebody who's saying, no, I
want innocent people to be victimized by crime. I want
innocent people to be victimized by crime committed by people

(13:59):
who are in the illegally. I mean, that's what they're saying.
But again, that's what these sanctuary city folks are saying.
Who are saying that when somebody's arrested and convicted of
a violent crime, that we should not cooperate with ICE
to get them out of the country. What they're saying
to you is is obviously they're willing to have you victimized,

(14:21):
and that's not acceptable.

Speaker 4 (14:23):
Quick chance.

Speaker 7 (14:23):
I don't mean for this to be a cheap plug,
but if you missed it, I highly encourage you to
go back and listen to my second hour from my
Denver show, Ryan Schuling Live. I had both Ed and
Cindy Romero in studio, and these two were victims of
a herrowing experience with trend de Arragua, many of whom
don't have any records because they've never been vetted.

Speaker 5 (14:43):
So what are the police supposed to do?

Speaker 7 (14:45):
I mean, these are the people Tom Holman is talking
about who need to be targeted, who need to be
removed from this country immediately.

Speaker 2 (14:52):
Because if you care about the week and defenseless, you
will want Donald Trump and Tom Holman to succeed and
getting criminal illegals out. And then they have other plans
obviously for that really center mainly around self deportation, meaning
you know, cutting off taxpayer benefits to folks here illegally,

(15:13):
and then folks will welcome back if they go through
the proper process. But this first leg, every decent American
should be wholeheartedly behind this first leg. And I'll bet
a lot of folks who are here illegally will enthusiastically
endorse what what Donald Trump and Tom Homan are about
to do, which is to get the violent offenders out

(15:35):
and out right away. And I think it's also going
to be enormously popular politically. Eight five zero five A
two five five the number I know how to say,
four zero five. I'm just fighting some kind of crud.
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The number takes d a N five seven seven through nine.

Speaker 4 (15:55):
We got a lot to do today started the show
with Gabe Evans again.

Speaker 2 (15:58):
I think it's turning point victory in Colorado that gave
Evans just one and it should give those who want
to see Republicans rise from the ashes and win statewide
in Colorado a lot of hope. You know, competitive, hard
fought district outspent significantly by the Democrat. The Democrat had

(16:19):
a lot of full media backing, and we had a
very very high quality candidate, great campaign staff, really well
staffed campaigned some significant financial support as well, and he
pulled it off. And I just think, and he's a
great candidate, He's going to be a great congressman. So
you combine that with the other folks who won on

(16:39):
the GOP side, and you know, hey, had we had
Jeff Hurd on Friday, and yeh, CD three should be
a cakewalk. But not when Adam Frish has fourteen million
dollars or something. And so that was an impressive wind
down there too. Now I imagine Jeff Hurd'll keep that
seat for as long as he wants. And then Lauren
Bobert outsmarted the Dems and got him to burn a
bunch of money races, and the GOP essentially saved a

(17:04):
seat in CD three, and Ryan it just you know,
it goes back to my point as we talk about
Colorado broader principle here. Venom interferes with brain function. That's
a chemical reality. Venom interferes with brain function. Hate interferes
with brain function. And the Democrats hate Lauren Bobert so

(17:24):
much they burned all that money in her race that
never had a chance of succeeding money that Thank god,
they didn't shift over and spending CD eight. I'd like
to believe Gabe still.

Speaker 4 (17:36):
Would have won.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
Look at everything he did overcome, including a big cash disadvantage.
But and then they burned all that money down in
CD three because they loaded it up thinking she was
going to be the candidate there.

Speaker 4 (17:47):
Nobody's smart enough to think, you know, hey, maybe she
might make a move out of there. So yeah, venom
interferes with brain function.

Speaker 2 (17:53):
But the GOP now I think better position that it
has been since Corey one in twenty fourteen to really start.

Speaker 4 (18:01):
Making that move back. And hey, everybody online, what I
want to do is make sure you have enough time.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
So our first segment with Gabe ran long for obvious reasons.
This is a really big deal. So we'll get back
on our full clock when we come back at four
thirty six, and everybody on the phone lines, we'll get
you on the air. We'll get to our great texts.
But I want to do a lot today. Hey, the
Post now wants an independent investigation of Griswold. Is it
all starting to fall apart? For will we get that investigation?

(18:29):
If we do, then my bet is she's probably done soon.

Speaker 5 (18:35):
You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show Podcast's.

Speaker 8 (18:38):
Gracious, these are the types of groups that you would
never have thought that Donald Trump would have gained so
much support among. Eight years ago when he first won
against Hillary Clinton, Trump's was the best GOP showing among
eighteen to twenty nine year olds in twenty years. You
have to go all the way back to two thousand
and four. How about among block voters, it was the
best performance for Republican candidate for president in forty eight
years since Gerald Ford back in.

Speaker 4 (18:59):
Ninth teen hundred and seventy six. And I'm hong Hispanic voters.

Speaker 8 (19:02):
The exit polls only go back since nineteen hundred and
seventy two. But Donald Trump's performance on Tuesday was the
best for a Republican presidential candidate in.

Speaker 4 (19:12):
Exit Paul history.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
He literally love every bit of that. But let's be realistic.
As I go back to the phone lines, these were
Trump voters, right. Donald Trump has given the GOP a chance.
He's opened the door for the GOP. The GOP has
to deliver now because we cannot sit here and assume
that all these extra voters are going to stick around
for the rest of the GOP. I think Donald Trump

(19:34):
turned out a bunch of people who turned out for
Donald Trump, and the GOP is going to have to
earn that ongoing support.

Speaker 7 (19:41):
One quick question Dan along those lines that I want
to run by you because it blew my mind an
election night. And I have the most respect for Roskamensky
over at KOA. But he said, and I quote Ron
DeSantis or Nikki Haley would have done as good or better.

Speaker 5 (19:55):
Than Donald Trump did on Tuesday night.

Speaker 4 (19:57):
Your thoughts not a chance? Not a chance.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
And I said, so the run up to the campaign
to the election, and I love Ross and I'd love
to debate that with him. No wait a second, and
I'll get to the jam lines right now. But as
we've been talking about all along, Donald Trump won for
a lot of reasons, and he attracted additional people for
a lot of reasons. He's earned it the hard way.
But make no mistake about it, if there is ever

(20:21):
any doubt he won that race in those fifteen seconds
between the time he got shot in the head and
the time he got back up bleeding and said fight, fight, fight,
because very few people on the face of the ears
have what it takes to do that in that moment,
and you could bet right there that so many Americans
were going to say, I want that guy on the wall.
Not a chance. And I'm a big fan of DeSantis,

(20:42):
used to like Kayley. I don't anymore. But no, not
a chance. So now the GOP has to earn that
ongoing support. Will start jam lines with Rick and Boone.
You're on the Dan Kapla Show.

Speaker 9 (20:52):
Welcome Rick, Hey, Dan, how are you well?

Speaker 4 (20:56):
I'm doing great, Rick, if you're new to the show.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
Is our farmer rancher Corps spondent is a source of
hard earned wisdom, you know, from working the land and
raising livestock.

Speaker 4 (21:07):
And he knows what it's all about. That's what your
wife says every day.

Speaker 3 (21:12):
Right, he likes that.

Speaker 4 (21:13):
Yeah, pardon, that's.

Speaker 2 (21:15):
What your wife says every day, Rick, Right, Rick, you
are the source of all wisdom.

Speaker 10 (21:20):
Yeah, Well, we.

Speaker 9 (21:21):
Grow your food.

Speaker 4 (21:23):
I'm grateful for that.

Speaker 10 (21:24):
And we're glad to do it. We're glad to do you. Hey,
I told your screwer before that I wouldn't call him
back unless I had something significant.

Speaker 9 (21:37):
But this is important. I haven't heard any of the
talking hands on TV. The networks won't have you or
your contemporaries on radio. Talking hands mentioned the Republican tension
for screwing.

Speaker 11 (21:54):
Up a good thing.

Speaker 12 (21:55):
They've done it for decades. They've done it for decades.
Despite that, we I'm okay, We've got the House, or
looks like it. We've got the Senate, we got the
White House, and everybody's rolling up their sleeves. They're off
to a good start. It's like the sugar hive mentioned
from Harris when she got the kind of stolen nomination.

(22:22):
Don't get too caught up on the sugar hut.

Speaker 4 (22:25):
Well you're right about that, Rick, But here's here's here's why.

Speaker 9 (22:29):
It's like that term we the people.

Speaker 12 (22:31):
It's overused.

Speaker 11 (22:33):
We as citizens need to roll up our sleeves and
push and push on these elected officials, and not just
Republican officials, but Kick and Bannett and all these others.
We need to push them and you need to vote
them a along with the program. I'm sorry I didn't
need to push you out.

Speaker 4 (22:53):
There, No, not at all.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
People would much rather listen to you, and I would too,
But no, and Rick, thank you for the call. Need
to vote first. You need to vote hicking Lubrin Bennett out.
But to Rick's point, and why I think that that
Rick and everybody else who rightfully concerned about this should
be very encouraged. Look at the quality of the people
who are winning. Look at the quality of the people

(23:15):
Trump is putting into place. This, this is what gives
me great confidence the GOP is going to be able
to to hold on to a lot of these gains.
This is really high quality stuff across the board. Let's
go to Loveland talk to Nick. You're on the Dan
Kapla show.

Speaker 13 (23:33):
Welcome, Hey, good afternoon, Dan. And you were talking about,
you know, in this first phase, getting you know, violent
criminals gone, you know, back out of the country Italy.
And you know, I said in the second phase that
it would be a bigger group and you know, it
would be more about getting them to self deport which

(23:57):
I think is super important to bring that up because
like the major media, for whatever power they may or
may not have anymore, you know, they want to tell you, oh,
you're gonna run them up like Hitler. But you can
these people. You can make it so these people self
support and the ways are the things you described, you know,
cutting off the funds and money and you know, welfare

(24:20):
that's for American citizens, but there's also have you ever
heard of e verify. Sure, are you familiar with it?

Speaker 5 (24:30):
Yes?

Speaker 9 (24:31):
And I'm not.

Speaker 13 (24:31):
This isn't a setup question, no Verify. It is a
program the government has that that in real time and
I use this as a company I work for once,
in real time you can find out if someone's if
they have proper idea to go to work, that they're
go to work in the United States, And if you
don't have it, it comes back literally in minutes and

(24:55):
and uh oh.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
Sure and Nick to your point though, listen, there are
so many criminal illegals here. You've got obviously millions and
millions and millions of illegals, but there are at this
point probably at least six or seven hundred thousand folks
who came into this country illegally and then committed serious crimes.

Speaker 4 (25:17):
If President Trump succeeds in being.

Speaker 2 (25:20):
Able to track down and round up and deport a
significant percentage of those, it will be a monumental service
to this country. And we're just talking about those here illegally,
So those who are saying, oh, your neighbors are going
to be rounded up and dragged out and shipped. He
has focused on those here criminally illegally. Now between that,

(25:41):
my friend, and just closing the border immediately and thoroughly.
You're going to be seeing such a dramatic improvement in
this country because people say, well, they've slowed down the
open border. There are still a ton of people coming
in illegally under Biden and Harris. But then they're they're
bringing him in by playing as well, you don't see
that scene at the border. So between going after those

(26:04):
here illegally you've committed other serious crimes and shutting down
the border, there's going to be such an immediate dramatic effects.
So many innocent lives are going to be saved, so
much money is going to be saved, so many other
benefits to society as a whole. And for those still
here illegally, life's actually going to be much better for

(26:24):
them too.

Speaker 4 (26:25):
In the meantime.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
And then yeah, President Trump is going to have, you know,
the broader effort to cut off benefits, which will I
think cause some folks to leave on their own. A
FI five for zero five eight two five five text
d A N five seven seven three nine. I'm gonna
ask a favor of our other callers. I don't want
to pop you on just to get you off in
thirty seconds. If you can hang in there with me.
When I come back, we'll take your call, give you

(26:48):
some real time. We'll get to text as well. Let
the celebration continue.

Speaker 4 (26:52):
You're on the Dan Capla Show.

Speaker 5 (26:56):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.

Speaker 14 (26:59):
As a process it on stage many times, which I
agree with one hundred percent. This would be the same
was there in the first administration.

Speaker 4 (27:05):
Was a hell a lot more of them.

Speaker 14 (27:07):
Because ten million people are got to this country leading
under bided administration or they actually let into this country.
Even though this is why I listened to CREDI of
law would have been doing the abuse of the proles already.

Speaker 4 (27:17):
But look, I've been clear a President Trump being clear.

Speaker 14 (27:19):
Public safety threads and national security threats will be the
priority because they have to be. They propose the most
dangerous country. So we're going to prioritize those groups. Those
who always have final orders, all had those I had
due process, a great tax payer of Spence and our
Froberal judge as you must go home, and they didn't.
They became a.

Speaker 4 (27:37):
Future there makes a perfect sense.

Speaker 2 (27:39):
Say five to five for zero five eight two five
five the number text d A N five seven seven
three nine. I'm going to mix in calls and text.
Let's go to Brian and Ourvada.

Speaker 14 (27:49):
Now.

Speaker 2 (27:50):
My screen says Brian Perenz, good one, close friends. Uh,
somebody want to explain that. Do we have a bad Brian?

Speaker 4 (27:58):
Oh that's a.

Speaker 15 (27:59):
Good Brian, Brian from our GOADA.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
Hello Brian, Brian with the halo. Hey Brian, welcome to
the show.

Speaker 3 (28:10):
Thanks.

Speaker 15 (28:10):
You know what a great celebration.

Speaker 11 (28:13):
You know.

Speaker 15 (28:13):
I think the cherry on the top was the popular vote,
you know, because now we used to walk around in
hiding as a Trump more of us than them logistically,
and so I think walking proud is is something we
wanted to do for a long time. We can finally
do it.

Speaker 4 (28:33):
My friend.

Speaker 15 (28:34):
Legislation is what's the most important thing to me, because
we lost a lot of opportunities as ago eight years
ago when Trump was elected. Has some guts, he's got
a mandate. If there are no excuses for any of
this stuff to happen this time, Oh that's right. And
fear fear that there might you know, there's those hang ups.

(28:57):
We have two years to do whatever we can because
we know what the House is going to do.

Speaker 9 (29:01):
In two years.

Speaker 4 (29:02):
Yeah, now you're so right about all that. Thank you, Brian.
And I'll tell you this.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
To Brian's point about now hey being able to come
out into the open as a Trump supporter. And I
understand some of us like with jobs like this, we
do it every day, you know, because we're here and
you got you know, you want to and you got
to tell the truth. But I understand there are a
lot of good people who've just you know, been a
little maybe a little uncertain about going out. You know,

(29:26):
we're in the Trump gear. This, this, that that, And
I do think to Brian's point, that has changed dramatically.
And Ryan, I have to tell you, I have not
you and I have not discussed this. But Brian came
to the right place because over the weekend, and I
consider it one of those epiphionical moments, I envisioned the
greatest Trump T shirt of all time, also suitable for

(29:49):
a hoodie, a hat, et cetera. But I got in
touch with our graphic artist. We're working on it. Proceeds
will go to charity. But as soon as you see it,
you'll say, I want one of those. I want to
wear One of those days is the greatest Trump T
shirt of all time. But for those who don't like

(30:11):
the T shirts, I understand some people prefer the sweatshirt,
some people prefer the hoodies. You can put it on
the back of a jacket. You're gonna love it instantly.
And I don't think anybody's ever seen anything like it,
so just and it'll be just an easy way for
Trump supporters to now start showing it off on public
because when you see it and you see the design
and you see you see the the slogan on it,

(30:36):
it's the kind of thing that will also, you know,
get a smile out of the folks who don't feel
the same way yet about the president as we do.

Speaker 4 (30:43):
Jay and Parker, you're on the Dan Kapla show.

Speaker 5 (30:45):
Welcome Dan.

Speaker 16 (30:48):
After we deport all the criminal aliens and we have
the bore the completely shaft fields, unless we come up
with some kind of way to get more work as
this country, you're gonna to.

Speaker 17 (31:02):
Do the grunt work, the roofing in the ninety six
degree sunny days.

Speaker 9 (31:08):
You're gonna see inflation.

Speaker 17 (31:10):
The wages are gonna go up so high so quickly,
and then they're gonna have to raise interest rates and
that's going to knock us into a lower standard of
living over the long term.

Speaker 2 (31:21):
May I, May I put your mind at easier, and
I'm gonna give you a concrete reason that's never ever
going to happen, and it's caught. You raise a fair concern,
but it's easily addressed, and it's called legal immigration because
you're gonna have Oh it just I can't be wrong.
As I love to say around my house, I can't

(31:41):
be wrong till I finish my sentence, and that is
you're going to have folks lined up from here to
the equator who want to come into this country legally
and be vetted, et cetera. So we're gonna be able
to turn that spigot on and off as we want
it to get folks who are fully vetted into this
country to work.

Speaker 17 (32:01):
Okay, from what I understand, then, other than coming in
on a work visa, there's no legal way for a
peasant family from Guatemala, uneducated, no schooling, to legally immigrate
to this country. And I'm pretty familiar with the immigration law.

Speaker 2 (32:19):
Oh yeah, that then you know, Jay, that we're going
to be able to let those folks in and let
vetted folks in because they're still going to want to
come in, right, except this time they're not going to
get raped on the way up here. They're not going
to get raped on the way up here by coyotes
and by other criminals.

Speaker 17 (32:38):
Please listen, the laws are going to have to change
because right now there's no visas. There's no mechanism for
some peasant family from a village in Guatemala to legally
immigrate to the United States.

Speaker 5 (32:49):
Jay, Why do they have a right to be here?
Why do they have a right to be here?

Speaker 17 (32:54):
I'm just talking about lowering our wages, so our economy
with a thirty five trillion dollar stranglehold debt, could somehow
maintain ahead above water. This economy with that thirty five
trillion dollar debt competing against Chinese labor. I'm telling you,
when you have twenty five dollars an hour working on

(33:16):
roofs doing roofing, that.

Speaker 3 (33:18):
Can't go up much higher.

Speaker 9 (33:20):
People people to afford to get in the roof.

Speaker 2 (33:22):
A couple of things I think you're missing in this analysis,
and again I appreciate you raising the issue. One is
that under any of these plans, you're still going to
have likely tens of millions of people in this country illegally,
and so you're still going to have a vast labor
pool of folks in the country legally. Now, many folks

(33:46):
would say, and I understand the argument that everybody here
illegally should have to leave and reapply and enter.

Speaker 4 (33:52):
And as you know, the laws can.

Speaker 2 (33:53):
Be easily and quickly changed to address whatever needs the
US has in terms of immigration for whatever level of job,
including as you describe folks, you know, a peasant family
from Guatemala doing you know, in the beginning at least
these lower level jobs, right, that can be tweaked immediately.
You don't even need congressional action to do that necessarily,

(34:14):
So that can all be addressed.

Speaker 17 (34:15):
Jay, the tens of millions have already illegal. Our wages
are at twenty twenty five bucks an hour for this
front work if we don't have an influx of cheaper labor,
and I know it's going to hurt our American poor,
but the nailt have that. But the wages are going

(34:36):
to go through the route.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
But Jay, first of all, a starting point is and
again I appreciate you raising these issues and happy to
continue the conversation into the five but we don't have
the option of hurting the American poor. That's not an
option for us. We don't have the option of saying, Okay,
we're going to bring in peasant families as Jay describes
them from Guatemala, because it's going to make stuff a

(34:59):
little cheap. But for us and hurt the American poor. No,
the American poor don't deserve that.
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