Dr. Steven D. Broman camped outside of the Supreme Court of the United States for a seat at the landmark hearing on Tennessee's ban against transgender procedures for children. He joins Dan with an update, live from Washington, D.C.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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for the better, you know, because of the election of
Donald Trump and hasn't even been inaugurated yet. So today's
example of that, and then we'll get into the other
big news of the day, including the latest information on
the United Healthcare CEO who was executed in downtown New
York today. But the latest happy news, happy news steming
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from Trump's win is Listen to this headline from Politico.
Biden Whitehouse is discussing a preemptive pardon for those in
Trump's crosshairs.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Now that's the way they signed the headline.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
The fun part is this, who do you think, according
to political Oh, Biden is considering pardoning right now. I'd
love to hear what would your guests be now, I'll
tell you in a second. Obviously not gonna tease on this,
but what would your guest be? Eight five five four
zero five eight two five five the number for those throwbacks.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Like me, old school who like to talk about these things.
A lot of people texting in this era.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
I get it, d An five seven seven three nine.
Who do you think the Biden administration is looking at
preemptively pardoning? Let's play game show, Ryan, you get one
guess for a tomahawk?
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Who would it be? Jack Smith? Interesting?
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Not on this list, but that doesn't mean he isn't
under consideration. According to Politico, Jim Biden, you know who
I'm talking about. Do the voice Anthony Fauci?
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Well, Dan, See the problem here is the weaponization of
the Department of Justice against I am science.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
I'm not just a man of I am science. Yeah,
you can say that in don't touch me, I am science.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
No.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
I do not want to see Anthony Faucher go to jail.
That's not the point.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
But the point is the Biden administration, according to Politico,
is considering a pardon for him.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
But wouldn't that, in and of itself indict him? Dan,
I mean they can at least pull off this facade,
this this kind of shell game of well, no doctor
Fauci's fine, he's beyond reproach and beyond rebuke if they
pardon him ahead of time, does that not in and
of itself? Mine is integrity?
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Yeah, conviction m right, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
So what it tells you is they would not even
be considering these pardons unless they thought there was real
criminal exposure there. That's that's what it tells you, because
they know a pardon is a conviction in the court
of public opinion. Now your sentence is not going to
be behind metal bars, but you're going to be viewed
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by many as guilty after that, just by like Iden's
pardon of Hunter confirms for most Americans that Biden was
corrupt and engaged in corruption with Hunter. So let's see
another one. Top on the list your guests, hint, pencil.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Adam shift, So Adam shift.
Speaker 5 (03:19):
A pencil neck.
Speaker 6 (03:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:20):
I don't know how it holds up.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
As and we don't get into those purchartists, but it does.
I'm the guy who gave you the hint, and you
know what, and listen, you.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Know me, I'm.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Anyway, I will never forget Ryan, honest to goodness is
if I'm looking at you right now, it's as vivid
in my mind as if it happened a millisecond ago,
and we were just as close as you and I
are right now, Adam shift and I and we were
in a hearing room in Washington, d C. In the
Capitol and it's March twenty, twenty seventeen, and Trump has
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just been elected, he's been sworn in.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
But the coup is in full swing.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Oh, it's just that the American people don't know it yet, right,
but they're about to find out. And that's why I
was in that hearing room with my wife and Joe
and Caroline on Amy's birthday. We celebrated in that hearing.
Speaker 5 (04:11):
Room in d C, exactly where Amy wanted to be.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
For well, well did want to be in DC. Joe
was working there, I think for a Senator Gardner at
the time, if I remember. But anyway, the point being,
I had a feeling this was going to be I
had a feeling the coup was going on in this
hearing was going.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
To be a big deal.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
And I remember Adam Schiff coming out of a conference
room in the back of the hearing room with some
of his co conspirators, and they knew at that point
none of us knew that Komy was about to say
in that hearing room that he was investigating Trump and
that was going to rock the nation, that was going
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to undermine the Trump presidency. That was the day that
was all announced. And just the look on Schiff's face
as he walked out of that room. I turned to
Amy and I said, it's coming down, because he looked
like a gu who knew he was just about to
jump off a cliff and the whole thing was so diabolical.
So anyway, no love lost for Adam Schiff, but yeah,
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considering a pardon for him and Liz Cheney. They're considering
a pardon for Liz Cheney. All I can say is,
please pardon them all because what that will do to
undermine the Democratic Party in America and help Republicans win
will be enormous because pardon equals conviction in the court
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of public opinion.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
On Liz Cheney, though a preemptive pardon, we know there
was some malefeasance going on with this January sixth committee.
Things they were hiding, things, they were deleting communications that
Liz Cheney was colluding on with that female person who
testified that Donald Trump tried to grab the steering wheel
from the Secret Service agent. Erroneous actually fiction there, but
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that they were trying to plot out her testimony and
in advance, which of course is way beyond the pail.
But would this insulate Cheney from any such investigations, this
preemptive pardon.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Well, from any federal prosecutions.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
I mean, you could still have obviously the congressional investigations.
If there's a grand jury investigation regarding potential charges against
other targets, you would lose fitth Amendment rights at that
point state charges. But listen, my starting point is I
am not aware of Liz Cheney, Adam Schiff, Anthony Fauci
committing any crimes. I'm not aware of them committing any crimes.
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I'm saying the Biden White House is concerned enough, according
to the political report that they did, to be considering
preemptive pardons. That's what I'm saying now. I understand that
the argument from the left would be, no, the White
House knows they're innocent, just doesn't want to see them
pursued by.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
A Trump DOJ.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
But knowing that the mire act of pardoning conviction them
in the eyes of the public, would they really be
considering that unless they thought there might be some mental culpability.
I'm not aware of any crimes they committed.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
I'm very curious, though, Dan, about the Jan sixth sum Committee,
which was a stacked deck of two quasi pseudo Republicans
and Adam Kinzinger and Liz Cheney, both who had an
axe to grind with Trump. Nancy Pelosi got to pick
the Republican members, which was unprecedented. McCarthy didn't get his
picks on the committee. There's all kinds of subterfuge. Thomas Massey,
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probably the smartest guy in Congress, confronted Benny Thompson, who
was the chair of that committee and those who testified.
What happened to this Jan six bomber outside of the DNC,
this person caught on video? What where are the text
messages all these things being deleted? I mean, there's at
least some serious malfeasance going on here with regard to
that committee.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Dan, Yeah, and again that's where you need subpoena power
to get to the bottom of it. Right, My life
for the last forty years, my life, every day is
about subpoenas. It's about subpoena power. It's about getting people
under oath and getting to the truth, which we're able
to do in our law practice. But unless you have
that subpoena power, you have no chance of getting to
the full truth.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Here.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
All I'm saying is as an outsider and the only
information I have is what's publicly reported, I see a
lot of evidence that causes me to distrust, deeply distrust
Anthony Fauci and Adam Shift and Liz Cheney, but I
don't see any evidence of criminality. What I'm saying is
the Biden White House must be concerned if they're considering
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preemptive pardons here. What I will tell you, and this
certainly does not equal proof of any kind of criminal offense.
And I'd be surprised if Liz Cheney had committed any
criminal offense. But when somebody who has been a pro
life activist been elected to office on pro life credentials
over and over again, is willing to betray that cause
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and support Kamala Harris, who supports the killing machine, At
that point, I just wonder, you know, is that peron
and capable of just about anything? Because that kind of
betrayal and if you're not committed to the pro life cause.
I understand this may not make any sense to you,
but for people who are committed to the cause and
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think about often the undeniable reality of that mass killing
to betray all of those innocent lives and support a
Kamala Harris at that point, I've got to assume somebody
is capable of lots of different things. Hey, when we
come back, Major Pohle just came out what percent of
the American people believe the media is quote the enemy
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of the people, and new information on where the suspected
assassin of the United Healthcare CEO was twenty five minutes
before the killing.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
You're on the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 5 (09:49):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 7 (09:52):
You cannot eliminate the risk of detransitioners, so it becomes
a pure exercise of weighing benefits versus risk, and the
question of how many miners have to have their bodies
irreparably harmed for unproven benefits is one that is best left.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
I'm sorry, Counselor.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
Every medical treatment has a risk, even taking aspirin.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Well justice out of my or today in this very
important Supreme courtoral argument comparing that the chemical alteration of
young girls and young boys to the risks of taking
an aspirin. We played the full context before, and this
statement was offered to you an in fair context, and
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so yeah, very important hearing today, and we got deeper
into it a bit earlier in the show. We played
this magnificent moment from Justice Alito today questioning one of
the Council, in fact both of the Council, you know,
for the Biden administration, who are trying to block Tennessee's
effort to protect young children from these so called treatments.
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And you've got about twenty five states now with laws
like this protecting kids from the administration of these puberty blockers.
So a lot's at stake. But what's at stake in
the Supreme Court case today US v. Scremetti goes even
beyond those twenty five states and protecting kids from these drugs,
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because what the Biden administration on the left is really
after is the US Supreme Court finding that any of
these laws that limit so called trans rights are classifications
based on sex. And if they can get the Supreme
Court to go there, then it becomes virtually impossible for
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any state to pass a law that limits trans rights.
Not impossible, but virtually impossible, because if it's deemed to
be a classification based on sex, then in order for
a state's law to be uphel, the state would have
to meet this heightened scrutiny standard and show there was
this compelling state interest for the law, just as if
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there's any law that classifies slash discriminates based on race.
Of course, a state can't have a law like that
unless they show some overwhelming compelling state interest. And it's
very very high to meet that standard, hard as it
should be, right, But that's what's really at play in
the Tennessee case. That's what the Biden administration and the
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left are after. Very positive excuse me, but not conclusive
indications from the questioning today that at least a five
justice majority is not going to go there and is
going to uphold the Tennessee law, let's hope.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
So while we're keeping.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
An eye on the courts, please do literally, if like me,
you believe in prayer, please do pray for the acquittal
of Daniel Penny, that hero on the New York subway.
The jury is out there in deliberations. I don't know
if they're deliberating tonight. It'd be said seven twenty five
back there. But they are in the process of deliberations,
and I think an acquittal is vital, first for fairness
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to hear Daniel Penny, but also for confidence in the
justice system. So we'll keep an eye on that one.
The United health CEO who was executed today, Brian Thompson,
executed on a New York street, heading apparently to a meeting.
It turns out the killer and I mentioned earlier New
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York Post reporting that the victim is under investigation by DOJ,
along with some other executives at United Healthcare, according to
the New York Post, for alleged insider training. We got
into some of the details from the Post story, but
the latest report is that the suspected assassin was it
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Starbucks twenty five minutes before the murder. So what do
you make of that Ryan Starbucks twenty five minutes before
the murder if you're trying to solve this crime. And
then other evidence that he disappeared on one of those
e bikes, a rental bike, I think was what the
story was suggesting through Central Park. So I'm passing along
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information as we get it. I know that most Americans
are following this right now. So I just wanted to
keep you up to speed on that eight FI five
for zero five A two five five the number text
d A N five seven seven three nine. Ryan, I
want to get this important, really interesting poll results to folks,
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and then if you could just shoot me a text
or email about the doctor, I'd appreciate that. But what
we have here fascinating ras Mussin. And I got to
give it to Ryan on this because I was leary.
I was leary of ras Muscin during this cycle because
I thought that ras Muscin was just kind of in
the tank GOP kind of polling, so I always discounted
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their results a little bit and then lo and behold,
they just nailt it, man, if they were right on
top of it. So credit to Rasmussen. But that's why
I'm bringing you this poll that they just came out with.
And and here's the poll. Do you agree or disagree
with this statement The media are truly the enemy of
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the people. Strongly agree thirty percent, Somewhat agree thirty percent,
so sixty percent agree with that statement. Hey, I want
to get to the VIP line. Doctor Travis Morrell, MD,
doctor Washington, d C. Reporting on the Tennessee case today
that we've devoted much of the show to usv. Scrimmetti. Doctor,
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so grateful for your time. Welcome to the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
Dan, so kind of you to have me. I'm proud
of proud to be here.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Thank you, Thank you, sir.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Can you give us your take on the proceedings today?
Speaker 4 (15:57):
Yeah, so in thirty seconds. The question is can tessye
in other states? In fact, half the states have banned
transgender medicines and surgeries for minors. And the summary is
I think that the justices are going to decide that
that is permissible. The question is kind of how wide
are they going to write this, uh, this opinion and
when it comes out in June?
Speaker 1 (16:19):
And doctor, at this point, who would you expect, at
least among the six identified as quote conservatives, I'd say
originalist justices. Who do you think will uphold the Tennessee law?
Speaker 4 (16:34):
I suspect that definitely. Thomas is from I was in
the courtroom today. I was very honored to be in
the court. Thomas. Thomas definitely very cynical that uh that
being transit immutable trade. I feel like maybe Alito and
Gorsicchu I'm sorry you have not had the same thoughts,
like if somebody can be a girl and a boy
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and a girl again, it is a really an immutable,
lifelong characteristic that can't be changed. I think they're going
to probably uphold Tennessee. I could see Roberts and maybe
you know Cavanaugh, just go just on the questions. Of course,
it's reading Tea Leaves. I'm not not making prophecies or anything,
but maybe Roberts and maybe another one or two. Mike
really doesn't want to write this opinion as there as
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possible and try not to touch too hard on the
transcender and sex base discrimination right issues.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Yeah, because they've obviously that the left here is trying
to get them to find broadly that any laws limiting
quote trans rights would constitute classification by sex, which would then,
I think, cause all sorts of terrible ramifications for the country. Doctor,
Can you spend a minute or two after the break,
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would like to talk about the issue a bit more
broadly the group you're with and get your take a
bit more on what happened today. I'm so jealous that
you were in Supreme Court chambers for the oral argument
and given the historic nature of the case. It had
to be quite a vibe in there.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
It was the one lifetime experience. I had to sleep
on the concrete to do it. Mountaineering in Colorado was good,
but practice for that, but honor, I know that.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Joe, Hey, can you spend a couple of minutes on
the other side of course? Yeah, Hey, appreciate that doctor
Travis Morrell kind enough to be with us. Man, I
would have killed to have been in that courtroom today.
This hearing today a very very big deal. Hey, lots
of ground to cover. Want to bring you the latest
on the assassination of that CEO on the streets of
New York today. Additional information that we're receiving and does
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some sound from the Supreme Court hearing very compelling.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
You're on the Dan Capitlas Show.
Speaker 5 (18:36):
You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Yeah, I upset about your drinking.
Speaker 6 (18:44):
You know what, That's a there's an interesting one there.
First of all, I've never had a drinking problem. I
don't everyone's ever approached me and said, oh, you you
should really look at getting help for a drink. Never,
I've never sawt Counselly, never sought help. I respect and
appreciate people who do. But you know, what do guys
do when they come back from more oftentimes have some beers.
(19:07):
You know, how do you deal with the demons you
see on the battlefield. Sometimes it's with a bottle. Unfortunately, tragically,
for too many guys, it's with the bottle, and then
it's depression and even worse, suicide.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
I mean, we've got an epidemic of that in our country.
Speaker 6 (19:21):
Thank God, by the grace of God, I found my
chapters of purpose.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Pete heg Seths with Megan Kelly.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Listen.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
I really hope he's confirmed. I hope Trump hangs in
there with him unless there's something really big out there
that we haven't heard yet. And he wouldn't have been
my first pick. But that's not the point. Trump's entitled
to his picks. And we see this all the time
from the left right. We saw it with Clarence Thomas,
We've seen it with Kavanaugh so many others, the politics
of personal destruction just to get a political scalp.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Screw that.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
One of Trump's finest hours was when he stood behind Kavanaugh.
And there are broader principles that play here as well.
With Avnaut was Hey, are we still innocent until proven guilty?
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Are we just going to let a mob?
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Are we gonna let let a mob destroy somebody like
that without proof?
Speaker 2 (20:10):
And the same thing here with Hegseth.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
If the standard now is perfection, well then the good
Lord's going to have to fill every cabinet position because
there's there's gonna be nobody else who can meet that standard.
And these these these what's the acceptable term? These hypocritical
lying democrats who want to run Hegseeth out? Uh, but
because he may drink too much occasionally when they support
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to the death a president who is obviously severely impaired.
And there are different things that can impair you, right,
alcohol can impair you, and it's usually temporary. Biden's thing
is not temporary. And that's sad, but it's very sad
for this country. So these hypocritical democrats who want to
destroy heg Seth because he occasionally maybe drinks too much,
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and then they support a president who's impaired every day, No,
screw them, stand behind access Again, he wouldn't have been
my first choice, but Trump's entitled to his. And there
is this bigger principle eight five five for zero five
eight two five five the number. Want to get to
some of these textures rolling in today. What's Oh, thank
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you for reminding me. Thank holy kay. You know, there
is so much interesting stuff going on today. I almost
drove right past a wonderful guest who's been kind enough
to join us today regarding the US Supreme Court here,
and we talked a bit before the break with doctor
Travis Morrell. He was in the courtroom today in the
Supreme Court chambers, I should say, for this historic argument
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as to whether the state of Tennessee, and you know,
twenty four other states that weren't an issue in the
case today can have these laws that say, no, you
can't be given these drugs to these transgender boys to
stop their puberty transgender girls as well. So, doctor, would
you do me a favor and just tell people a
little bit about yourself and the group you're with and
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your broader mission here, and then we'll swing back to
what it was like in the Supreme Court courtroom today.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
Yeah, thank you. So. Yes, I'm a physician. I represent.
I'm a chair of Colorado Principal Physicians, which is a
statewide group of doctors. I think you'll find talking to doctors.
Most doctors want evidence based medicine, and that's what Colorado
principal positions at coloradodoctors dot org represents evidence space medicine.
As you know, then that the basically mutilation or permanent
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serialization and permanent alteration of kids sex traits is totally
not evident space never was. And so we think that
that's just a kind of offensive to medicine and it's
bad for patients and kids, and so we'd definitely like
to see that, we'd like to see doctors stop that,
and definitely with sucre medi case today is about whether
states can and as you said, about half the states
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have already banned that, in addition to several European countries.
New Zealand's turning around the other way. And I think
that this case is going to leave it that that's
totally fine for states to ban or regulate this, which
I'm sure that they probably will continue to.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
And you had such an advantage today being there in
the courtroom for this oral argument, and and how would
you describe the atmosphere in there today? We know we
played some sound earlier from one of the attorneys trying
to strike down Tennessee's band was actually a woman who
now identifies as a man, So the first transgender attorney
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to argue before the US Supreme Court.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
But what was that all vibe?
Speaker 7 (23:33):
Like?
Speaker 4 (23:35):
Yeah, I mean it was packed. They had extra chairs,
you know, squeezed in the justices. You know, I've listened
to a bunch of oral arguments and they're they're the
characters that they are. You know, Thomas is leaning back,
looks like he's not paying attention, has his hand in
his face, and we'll just very rarely lean forward and
ask a very deep, one deep question, you know all,
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you know, all around the certain certain justices, I feel
like sometimes try to kind of harass the opposing counsel
if they feel like they're not getting the right answer
that they want or if they feel like they haven't penned.
I felt like, definitely Katanji Brown Jackson and maybe sort
of ordered that a little bit to Tennessee's.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Counsel.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
Yeah, soliciter, thank you so so yeah, so there is
a little bit of intensity there is both sides seem
to get questions that they just couldn't answer or at
least to the satisfaction of the justices that seemed to
be pushing against them. It seemed like the solicitor from
Tennessee had a hard time trying to convince Katanji, Brown
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Jackson and some people that kind of lean to her
way that this is not a sex based discrimination. It's
kind of interesting, though, you kind of alluded to it
that basically what the ACLU arguments is the ACLU fighting
against Tennessee's right to ban this is that basically anything
that even has to do with transcender remotely is by
definition a sex base discrimination, which seems a little bit
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ex streme.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Well right, and.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
If the left succeeded in getting a US Supreme Court
to find that any such law constitutes a classification based
on sex, then at that point it essentially be untouchable.
I mean, it so be a very very very damaging precedent,
I think for the country. But at least the media reports,
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and you had the advantage doctor Morrella Bean in the courtroom,
but the media reports suggest that five, if not six,
of the you know, so called conservative justices I view
them as more originalists, you know, are going to support
Tennessee on this and uphold the ban.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
Right. Yes, I think you're right that it would be
too far to just give blanket sex face discrimination to anything,
to have the word transgender. It's just kind of ridiculous
that medicine. Of course, you can regulate things that are
specific to women, are specific to men or whatever, So
that just seems too far. And yes, you're right, I
definitely think that they'll uphold the band. It's not but again,
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this is not banning it in the whole country or
not being in the whole country. It's the same that
half of the states that have will continue to do that,
so the fight for evidence and protecting kids will continue.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
And it was so interesting me that Justice Roberts questioning
was so focused on Wait a second, these are such
medicine heavy issues. Isn't it more appropriate that state legislatures
decide these rather than the Supreme Court? And obviously a
helpful sign there. But doctor, in the last minute we have,
can you share your expertise and take us a little
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deeper into what these different drugs do, these puberty blockers, etc.
And how they're so harmful to these kids, who, by
the way, aren't old enough to consent to them.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
Thanks for asking that, Dan, Yeah, I mean, if you
can't ask a kid to consent that he would never
be able to drive a Ferrari if he's three years
old and all he plays at pot wheels. So these
puberty blockers stop your ability to have sex, literally before
you have the ability to have sex. The president of
w PATH, the World Professional Association for Transgender Health, which
is really pro pushing this, these neutering medicines, chemicals, pumpting,
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and the kids she has, he has admitted doctor Marcy
Bars that if a boy gets put on these at
eight to thirteen, which is when Colorado State Medicaid pays
for it, and just continue that on car to Medicaid
pays for that, and then you put them on a
cross sex foremones in their teams, which car to Medicaid
pays for. By the time they get to adulthood though
basically do not have a lot of equipment and it
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won't work. And you know, I think that's a tragedy.
No matter what happens to these kids when they're adults,
they're gay, transtraate, whatever, I just think that's horrible for
their relationship status. And I think that makes a lot
of voters and doctors on any side. This is an
I really think a non part is an issue that's
horrible to sterilize these kids before they're old enough to
even know what they're losing.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
So sad and doctor, how can people follow you? And
I'd like to get together on air again soon and
deep dive this. But in the meantime is it where
can you be found?
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (28:02):
Please, Dan, this is just a pleasure to talk to you.
You can find me on x my at MOREL m
O double R E double L and then my degrees
which is M D and MPa so MOREL md MPH,
and you can find me online a call at doctors
dot org. And I'd encourage people to check the deal
Harm Medicines website stopharm database dot com. That's stoppaharm database
(28:24):
dot com, which shows how this is going on in
Colorado and to the two of one hundred twenty million
dollars across the country in kids under seventeen and a half.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Well, I'm in trial next week. Why don't we try
to get together on air of the week after that
and do that deeper dive.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
Let's do it, Dan, I'd love to talk with you more.
Thanks for having me with you and your guests.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Thank you, my friend. To have a safe trip back.
Take care that it is doctor Travis Morrell, MD. He
was actually in the Supreme Court courtroom today. How cool
is that? Hey, when we come back, we have some
tremendous texts. Not all the Texters happy with me, which
is a shock. Here on the Dan Capla Show.
Speaker 5 (29:01):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Let's get to these great texts.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Dan hipocrisy has the left Somo Kamala Pelosi both rumored
to be intoxicated quite often while at work. Yeah, we're
going back to Hegseth and the Left trying to destroy
him here over maybe some excessive drinking and I hope
he gets confirmed. Would not have been my first choice,
but Trump's entitled to his nobody's perfect I hope he
gets confirmed and the Left is not rewarded for this
(29:29):
hyena pack type approach to Trump nominees. Dan, why would
the person who assassinated the CEO of United Healthcare do
it in public? Obviously he knew where the gentleman was
staying and apparently his schedule, So why not why not
do the deed quietly in a hallway or in an elevator,
out of public view. That from Sarah, what a tremendous question,
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because from published reports now we know this, if they're accurate,
this United CEO is staying at a hotel across the
street from where his meetings are going to be. So
at about six forty four am, he's just walking to
the hotel where the meetings are going to be. And
you've got according to an eyewitness, this assassin has been
(30:11):
out there all night. According to the eyewitness, the assassin's
been out there all night waiting now about twenty five
minutes before the shooting. So the assassin, to Sarah's point,
must have known the victim's scheduled the assassins at a
Starbucks about twenty five minutes before the shooting, apparently not
concerned he's going to miss connecting with the victim. So yeah,
(30:33):
great questions, Sarah. I don't have an answer to it.
We relayed the New York Post report earlier that the
victim was under investigation by DOJ along with several other
executives at the company for alleged insider trading. So is
it tied to something like that? Would that explain some
of them here? The other thing is, you know, when
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you talk about this murderer that this murderer, you know,
only at half his face covered. And this murder was
then riding an electric bike. It wasn't one of the
public bikes that would have a GEO on it. It
was apparently some kind of private electric bike that he
then disappeared into Central Park on. But he did, he
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did allow himself to be seen repeatedly. Another interesting thing.
And I know people can get caught up in the
horror of the moment, but I just saw this interview
on a network with.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
A guy who says he's an eyewitness.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Appears credible, but it's a full face, open interview talking
about everything he saw. And obviously I think the witness
should be cooperating with law enforcement, but maybe not doing
a full face TV interview was a killer like this
Just to thought, Dan, our characteristics based laws like those
related to sex, race, ethnicity, and disability considered sacrosanc because
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they're based on immutable characteristics. One hundred percent correct, texture
You are absolutely right about that. If sex or gender
becomes variable in laws based on that, they should no
longer be so ultimately powerful, absolutely brilliant text. Obviously, we're
talking about the transgender rights. I put that in quotes
case before the US Supreme Court today, where you know,
(32:15):
the Biden administration and the left are trying to say, hey,
this is just like race. We've got to have this
protected class status. Any laws that would negatively impact us
have to be viewed as classifications based on race. So yeah,
you can't touch us, and no, no, it's not immutable
in the same sense as race.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Yeah, excellent point, Texter. Let's see Dan.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
I think he's going to partner his brother because I
think he was also involved in the Barisma stuff. I
don't think there's any doubt, Texter, that Jim Biden is
getting a pardon. But if you just joined us, thank you.
The news of the day on this front from Politico
is that Biden is considering pardoning Anthony Fauci, shift Liz Cheney,
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and apparently a whole lot of other folks, which raises
the interesting question can you refuse a pardon because listen,
if I haven't committed any crime and somebody wants to
pardon me, well, when you pardon somebody, you convict them.
You convict them in the court of public opinion, and
they won't be behind bars of steel, but they will
(33:21):
be convicted out there in the court of public opinion,
and they will face various forms of consequence for that.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
So it'll be very interesting to.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
See if you see now that the stories are in
a Fauci or a Chainey or a shift, come out
and say I'm innocent. I don't need a pardoner, I
don't want to pardon. I'll refuse a pardon. Can you
even refuse a pardon? I'll have the answer for you
by tomorrow. Not something I've ever had to study. You
probably got the answer already. You probably just googled it
up as soon as I raised the question, Dan, If
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Fauci has pardoned, I will be pissed.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
He is evil.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
Besides AIDS in COVID, what they did to those beagles
was criminal. That from Alexa, I have rarely been as
wrong about somebody as I was about Fauci. In the beginning,
I thought he was all that. I thought he was
a plus. I thought he was what the image portrayed,
And it didn't take long to figure out he engaged
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in I think the worst malpractice in public health history.
I think he's so undermined public confidence in public health,
and that has done serious harm to America. And then
you think of all that unnecessary harm inflicted on the
children of America, not able to go to school, having
to wear those awful masks. Yet, yeah, just horrible, horrible stuff.
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And hey, it's one thing, you know, really really good doctors,
like anybody's right, can be wrong about something, just honestly
wrong about. I think Fauci was a political operator. All
about Fauci, and I think he did a ton of
harm in the process. Criminal I haven't seen proof of crimes,
but I think he did a ton of harm to
americ Ryan tremendous job, as always, my friend, Thank you
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for that, Kelly human sunshine. I think we all have
to take off our sweaters from around Kelly shoes so
bright and shiny join us tomorrow, please,
This is Dan Caplis and welcome to today's online podcast
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without exception, there's been some big new reason to celebrate,
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(00:23):
for the better, you know, because of the election of
Donald Trump and hasn't even been inaugurated yet. So today's
example of that, and then we'll get into the other
big news of the day, including the latest information on
the United Healthcare CEO who was executed in downtown New
York today. But the latest happy news, happy news steming
(00:44):
from Trump's win is Listen to this headline from Politico.
Biden Whitehouse is discussing a preemptive pardon for those in
Trump's crosshairs.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
Now that's the way they signed the headline.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
The fun part is this, who do you think, according
to political Oh, Biden is considering pardoning right now. I'd
love to hear what would your guests be now, I'll
tell you in a second. Obviously not gonna tease on this,
but what would your guest be? Eight five five four
zero five eight two five five the number for those throwbacks.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Like me, old school who like to talk about these things.
A lot of people texting in this era.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
I get it, d An five seven seven three nine.
Who do you think the Biden administration is looking at
preemptively pardoning? Let's play game show, Ryan, you get one
guess for a tomahawk?
Speaker 2 (01:33):
Who would it be? Jack Smith? Interesting?
Speaker 1 (01:37):
Not on this list, but that doesn't mean he isn't
under consideration. According to Politico, Jim Biden, you know who
I'm talking about. Do the voice Anthony Fauci?
Speaker 3 (01:47):
Well, Dan, See the problem here is the weaponization of
the Department of Justice against I am science.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
I'm not just a man of I am science. Yeah,
you can say that in don't touch me, I am science.
Speaker 4 (02:03):
No.
Speaker 2 (02:04):
I do not want to see Anthony Faucher go to jail.
That's not the point.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
But the point is the Biden administration, according to Politico,
is considering a pardon for him.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
But wouldn't that, in and of itself indict him? Dan,
I mean they can at least pull off this facade,
this this kind of shell game of well, no doctor
Fauci's fine, he's beyond reproach and beyond rebuke if they
pardon him ahead of time, does that not in and
of itself? Mine is integrity?
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Yeah, conviction m right, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
So what it tells you is they would not even
be considering these pardons unless they thought there was real
criminal exposure there. That's that's what it tells you, because
they know a pardon is a conviction in the court
of public opinion. Now your sentence is not going to
be behind metal bars, but you're going to be viewed
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by many as guilty after that, just by like Iden's
pardon of Hunter confirms for most Americans that Biden was
corrupt and engaged in corruption with Hunter. So let's see
another one. Top on the list your guests, hint, pencil.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Adam shift, So Adam shift.
Speaker 5 (03:19):
A pencil neck.
Speaker 6 (03:20):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (03:20):
I don't know how it holds up.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
As and we don't get into those purchartists, but it does.
I'm the guy who gave you the hint, and you
know what, and listen, you.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Know me, I'm.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Anyway, I will never forget Ryan, honest to goodness is
if I'm looking at you right now, it's as vivid
in my mind as if it happened a millisecond ago,
and we were just as close as you and I
are right now, Adam shift and I and we were
in a hearing room in Washington, d C. In the
Capitol and it's March twenty, twenty seventeen, and Trump has
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just been elected, he's been sworn in.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
But the coup is in full swing.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
Oh, it's just that the American people don't know it yet, right,
but they're about to find out. And that's why I
was in that hearing room with my wife and Joe
and Caroline on Amy's birthday. We celebrated in that hearing.
Speaker 5 (04:11):
Room in d C, exactly where Amy wanted to be.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
For well, well did want to be in DC. Joe
was working there, I think for a Senator Gardner at
the time, if I remember. But anyway, the point being,
I had a feeling this was going to be I
had a feeling the coup was going on in this
hearing was going.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
To be a big deal.
Speaker 1 (04:27):
And I remember Adam Schiff coming out of a conference
room in the back of the hearing room with some
of his co conspirators, and they knew at that point
none of us knew that Komy was about to say
in that hearing room that he was investigating Trump and
that was going to rock the nation, that was going
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to undermine the Trump presidency. That was the day that
was all announced. And just the look on Schiff's face
as he walked out of that room. I turned to
Amy and I said, it's coming down, because he looked
like a gu who knew he was just about to
jump off a cliff and the whole thing was so diabolical.
So anyway, no love lost for Adam Schiff, but yeah,
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considering a pardon for him and Liz Cheney. They're considering
a pardon for Liz Cheney. All I can say is,
please pardon them all because what that will do to
undermine the Democratic Party in America and help Republicans win
will be enormous because pardon equals conviction in the court
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of public opinion.
Speaker 3 (05:33):
On Liz Cheney, though a preemptive pardon, we know there
was some malefeasance going on with this January sixth committee.
Things they were hiding, things, they were deleting communications that
Liz Cheney was colluding on with that female person who
testified that Donald Trump tried to grab the steering wheel
from the Secret Service agent. Erroneous actually fiction there, but
(05:54):
that they were trying to plot out her testimony and
in advance, which of course is way beyond the pail.
But would this insulate Cheney from any such investigations, this
preemptive pardon.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
Well, from any federal prosecutions.
Speaker 1 (06:08):
I mean, you could still have obviously the congressional investigations.
If there's a grand jury investigation regarding potential charges against
other targets, you would lose fitth Amendment rights at that
point state charges. But listen, my starting point is I
am not aware of Liz Cheney, Adam Schiff, Anthony Fauci
committing any crimes. I'm not aware of them committing any crimes.
(06:31):
I'm saying the Biden White House is concerned enough, according
to the political report that they did, to be considering
preemptive pardons. That's what I'm saying now. I understand that
the argument from the left would be, no, the White
House knows they're innocent, just doesn't want to see them
pursued by.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
A Trump DOJ.
Speaker 1 (06:50):
But knowing that the mire act of pardoning conviction them
in the eyes of the public, would they really be
considering that unless they thought there might be some mental culpability.
I'm not aware of any crimes they committed.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
I'm very curious, though, Dan, about the Jan sixth sum Committee,
which was a stacked deck of two quasi pseudo Republicans
and Adam Kinzinger and Liz Cheney, both who had an
axe to grind with Trump. Nancy Pelosi got to pick
the Republican members, which was unprecedented. McCarthy didn't get his
picks on the committee. There's all kinds of subterfuge. Thomas Massey,
(07:25):
probably the smartest guy in Congress, confronted Benny Thompson, who
was the chair of that committee and those who testified.
What happened to this Jan six bomber outside of the DNC,
this person caught on video? What where are the text
messages all these things being deleted? I mean, there's at
least some serious malfeasance going on here with regard to
that committee.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Dan, Yeah, and again that's where you need subpoena power
to get to the bottom of it. Right, My life
for the last forty years, my life, every day is
about subpoenas. It's about subpoena power. It's about getting people
under oath and getting to the truth, which we're able
to do in our law practice. But unless you have
that subpoena power, you have no chance of getting to
the full truth.
Speaker 2 (08:05):
Here.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
All I'm saying is as an outsider and the only
information I have is what's publicly reported, I see a
lot of evidence that causes me to distrust, deeply distrust
Anthony Fauci and Adam Shift and Liz Cheney, but I
don't see any evidence of criminality. What I'm saying is
the Biden White House must be concerned if they're considering
(08:27):
preemptive pardons here. What I will tell you, and this
certainly does not equal proof of any kind of criminal offense.
And I'd be surprised if Liz Cheney had committed any
criminal offense. But when somebody who has been a pro
life activist been elected to office on pro life credentials
over and over again, is willing to betray that cause
(08:51):
and support Kamala Harris, who supports the killing machine, At
that point, I just wonder, you know, is that peron
and capable of just about anything? Because that kind of
betrayal and if you're not committed to the pro life cause.
I understand this may not make any sense to you,
but for people who are committed to the cause and
(09:13):
think about often the undeniable reality of that mass killing
to betray all of those innocent lives and support a
Kamala Harris at that point, I've got to assume somebody
is capable of lots of different things. Hey, when we
come back, Major Pohle just came out what percent of
the American people believe the media is quote the enemy
(09:35):
of the people, and new information on where the suspected
assassin of the United Healthcare CEO was twenty five minutes
before the killing.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
You're on the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 5 (09:49):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 7 (09:52):
You cannot eliminate the risk of detransitioners, so it becomes
a pure exercise of weighing benefits versus risk, and the
question of how many miners have to have their bodies
irreparably harmed for unproven benefits is one that is best left.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
I'm sorry, Counselor.
Speaker 4 (10:10):
Every medical treatment has a risk, even taking aspirin.
Speaker 1 (10:17):
Well justice out of my or today in this very
important Supreme courtoral argument comparing that the chemical alteration of
young girls and young boys to the risks of taking
an aspirin. We played the full context before, and this
statement was offered to you an in fair context, and
(10:39):
so yeah, very important hearing today, and we got deeper
into it a bit earlier in the show. We played
this magnificent moment from Justice Alito today questioning one of
the Council, in fact both of the Council, you know,
for the Biden administration, who are trying to block Tennessee's
effort to protect young children from these so called treatments.
(11:03):
And you've got about twenty five states now with laws
like this protecting kids from the administration of these puberty blockers.
So a lot's at stake. But what's at stake in
the Supreme Court case today US v. Scremetti goes even
beyond those twenty five states and protecting kids from these drugs,
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because what the Biden administration on the left is really
after is the US Supreme Court finding that any of
these laws that limit so called trans rights are classifications
based on sex. And if they can get the Supreme
Court to go there, then it becomes virtually impossible for
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any state to pass a law that limits trans rights.
Not impossible, but virtually impossible, because if it's deemed to
be a classification based on sex, then in order for
a state's law to be uphel, the state would have
to meet this heightened scrutiny standard and show there was
this compelling state interest for the law, just as if
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there's any law that classifies slash discriminates based on race.
Of course, a state can't have a law like that
unless they show some overwhelming compelling state interest. And it's
very very high to meet that standard, hard as it
should be, right, But that's what's really at play in
the Tennessee case. That's what the Biden administration and the
(12:30):
left are after. Very positive excuse me, but not conclusive
indications from the questioning today that at least a five
justice majority is not going to go there and is
going to uphold the Tennessee law, let's hope.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
So while we're keeping.
Speaker 1 (12:45):
An eye on the courts, please do literally, if like me,
you believe in prayer, please do pray for the acquittal
of Daniel Penny, that hero on the New York subway.
The jury is out there in deliberations. I don't know
if they're deliberating tonight. It'd be said seven twenty five
back there. But they are in the process of deliberations,
and I think an acquittal is vital, first for fairness
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to hear Daniel Penny, but also for confidence in the
justice system. So we'll keep an eye on that one.
The United health CEO who was executed today, Brian Thompson,
executed on a New York street, heading apparently to a meeting.
It turns out the killer and I mentioned earlier New
(13:30):
York Post reporting that the victim is under investigation by DOJ,
along with some other executives at United Healthcare, according to
the New York Post, for alleged insider training. We got
into some of the details from the Post story, but
the latest report is that the suspected assassin was it
(13:53):
Starbucks twenty five minutes before the murder. So what do
you make of that Ryan Starbucks twenty five minutes before
the murder if you're trying to solve this crime. And
then other evidence that he disappeared on one of those
e bikes, a rental bike, I think was what the
story was suggesting through Central Park. So I'm passing along
(14:15):
information as we get it. I know that most Americans
are following this right now. So I just wanted to
keep you up to speed on that eight FI five
for zero five A two five five the number text
d A N five seven seven three nine. Ryan, I
want to get this important, really interesting poll results to folks,
(14:36):
and then if you could just shoot me a text
or email about the doctor, I'd appreciate that. But what
we have here fascinating ras Mussin. And I got to
give it to Ryan on this because I was leary.
I was leary of ras Muscin during this cycle because
I thought that ras Muscin was just kind of in
the tank GOP kind of polling, so I always discounted
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their results a little bit and then lo and behold,
they just nailt it, man, if they were right on
top of it. So credit to Rasmussen. But that's why
I'm bringing you this poll that they just came out with.
And and here's the poll. Do you agree or disagree
with this statement The media are truly the enemy of
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the people. Strongly agree thirty percent, Somewhat agree thirty percent,
so sixty percent agree with that statement. Hey, I want
to get to the VIP line. Doctor Travis Morrell, MD,
doctor Washington, d C. Reporting on the Tennessee case today
that we've devoted much of the show to usv. Scrimmetti. Doctor,
(15:45):
so grateful for your time. Welcome to the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 4 (15:49):
Dan, so kind of you to have me. I'm proud
of proud to be here.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
Thank you, Thank you, sir.
Speaker 1 (15:53):
Can you give us your take on the proceedings today?
Speaker 4 (15:57):
Yeah, so in thirty seconds. The question is can tessye
in other states? In fact, half the states have banned
transgender medicines and surgeries for minors. And the summary is
I think that the justices are going to decide that
that is permissible. The question is kind of how wide
are they going to write this, uh, this opinion and
when it comes out in June?
Speaker 1 (16:19):
And doctor, at this point, who would you expect, at
least among the six identified as quote conservatives, I'd say
originalist justices. Who do you think will uphold the Tennessee law?
Speaker 4 (16:34):
I suspect that definitely. Thomas is from I was in
the courtroom today. I was very honored to be in
the court. Thomas. Thomas definitely very cynical that uh that
being transit immutable trade. I feel like maybe Alito and
Gorsicchu I'm sorry you have not had the same thoughts,
like if somebody can be a girl and a boy
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and a girl again, it is a really an immutable,
lifelong characteristic that can't be changed. I think they're going
to probably uphold Tennessee. I could see Roberts and maybe
you know Cavanaugh, just go just on the questions. Of course,
it's reading Tea Leaves. I'm not not making prophecies or anything,
but maybe Roberts and maybe another one or two. Mike
really doesn't want to write this opinion as there as
(17:15):
possible and try not to touch too hard on the
transcender and sex base discrimination right issues.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Yeah, because they've obviously that the left here is trying
to get them to find broadly that any laws limiting
quote trans rights would constitute classification by sex, which would then,
I think, cause all sorts of terrible ramifications for the country. Doctor,
Can you spend a minute or two after the break,
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would like to talk about the issue a bit more
broadly the group you're with and get your take a
bit more on what happened today. I'm so jealous that
you were in Supreme Court chambers for the oral argument
and given the historic nature of the case. It had
to be quite a vibe in there.
Speaker 4 (18:00):
It was the one lifetime experience. I had to sleep
on the concrete to do it. Mountaineering in Colorado was good,
but practice for that, but honor, I know that.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
Joe, Hey, can you spend a couple of minutes on
the other side of course? Yeah, Hey, appreciate that doctor
Travis Morrell kind enough to be with us. Man, I
would have killed to have been in that courtroom today.
This hearing today a very very big deal. Hey, lots
of ground to cover. Want to bring you the latest
on the assassination of that CEO on the streets of
New York today. Additional information that we're receiving and does
(18:29):
some sound from the Supreme Court hearing very compelling.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
You're on the Dan Capitlas Show.
Speaker 5 (18:36):
You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Yeah, I upset about your drinking.
Speaker 6 (18:44):
You know what, That's a there's an interesting one there.
First of all, I've never had a drinking problem. I
don't everyone's ever approached me and said, oh, you you
should really look at getting help for a drink. Never,
I've never sawt Counselly, never sought help. I respect and
appreciate people who do. But you know, what do guys
do when they come back from more oftentimes have some beers.
(19:07):
You know, how do you deal with the demons you
see on the battlefield. Sometimes it's with a bottle. Unfortunately, tragically,
for too many guys, it's with the bottle, and then
it's depression and even worse, suicide.
Speaker 2 (19:19):
I mean, we've got an epidemic of that in our country.
Speaker 6 (19:21):
Thank God, by the grace of God, I found my
chapters of purpose.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Pete heg Seths with Megan Kelly.
Speaker 2 (19:29):
Listen.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
I really hope he's confirmed. I hope Trump hangs in
there with him unless there's something really big out there
that we haven't heard yet. And he wouldn't have been
my first pick. But that's not the point. Trump's entitled
to his picks. And we see this all the time
from the left right. We saw it with Clarence Thomas,
We've seen it with Kavanaugh so many others, the politics
of personal destruction just to get a political scalp.
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Screw that.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
One of Trump's finest hours was when he stood behind Kavanaugh.
And there are broader principles that play here as well.
With Avnaut was Hey, are we still innocent until proven guilty?
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Are we just going to let a mob?
Speaker 1 (20:05):
Are we gonna let let a mob destroy somebody like
that without proof?
Speaker 2 (20:10):
And the same thing here with Hegseth.
Speaker 1 (20:11):
If the standard now is perfection, well then the good
Lord's going to have to fill every cabinet position because
there's there's gonna be nobody else who can meet that standard.
And these these these what's the acceptable term? These hypocritical
lying democrats who want to run Hegseeth out? Uh, but
because he may drink too much occasionally when they support
(20:36):
to the death a president who is obviously severely impaired.
And there are different things that can impair you, right,
alcohol can impair you, and it's usually temporary. Biden's thing
is not temporary. And that's sad, but it's very sad
for this country. So these hypocritical democrats who want to
destroy heg Seth because he occasionally maybe drinks too much,
(20:58):
and then they support a president who's impaired every day, No,
screw them, stand behind access Again, he wouldn't have been
my first choice, but Trump's entitled to his. And there
is this bigger principle eight five five for zero five
eight two five five the number. Want to get to
some of these textures rolling in today. What's Oh, thank
(21:18):
you for reminding me. Thank holy kay. You know, there
is so much interesting stuff going on today. I almost
drove right past a wonderful guest who's been kind enough
to join us today regarding the US Supreme Court here,
and we talked a bit before the break with doctor
Travis Morrell. He was in the courtroom today in the
Supreme Court chambers, I should say, for this historic argument
(21:41):
as to whether the state of Tennessee, and you know,
twenty four other states that weren't an issue in the
case today can have these laws that say, no, you
can't be given these drugs to these transgender boys to
stop their puberty transgender girls as well. So, doctor, would
you do me a favor and just tell people a
little bit about yourself and the group you're with and
(22:03):
your broader mission here, and then we'll swing back to
what it was like in the Supreme Court courtroom today.
Speaker 4 (22:10):
Yeah, thank you. So. Yes, I'm a physician. I represent.
I'm a chair of Colorado Principal Physicians, which is a
statewide group of doctors. I think you'll find talking to doctors.
Most doctors want evidence based medicine, and that's what Colorado
principal positions at coloradodoctors dot org represents evidence space medicine.
As you know, then that the basically mutilation or permanent
(22:32):
serialization and permanent alteration of kids sex traits is totally
not evident space never was. And so we think that
that's just a kind of offensive to medicine and it's
bad for patients and kids, and so we'd definitely like
to see that, we'd like to see doctors stop that,
and definitely with sucre medi case today is about whether
states can and as you said, about half the states
(22:53):
have already banned that, in addition to several European countries.
New Zealand's turning around the other way. And I think
that this case is going to leave it that that's
totally fine for states to ban or regulate this, which
I'm sure that they probably will continue to.
Speaker 1 (23:08):
And you had such an advantage today being there in
the courtroom for this oral argument, and and how would
you describe the atmosphere in there today? We know we
played some sound earlier from one of the attorneys trying
to strike down Tennessee's band was actually a woman who
now identifies as a man, So the first transgender attorney
(23:31):
to argue before the US Supreme Court.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
But what was that all vibe?
Speaker 7 (23:33):
Like?
Speaker 4 (23:35):
Yeah, I mean it was packed. They had extra chairs,
you know, squeezed in the justices. You know, I've listened
to a bunch of oral arguments and they're they're the
characters that they are. You know, Thomas is leaning back,
looks like he's not paying attention, has his hand in
his face, and we'll just very rarely lean forward and
ask a very deep, one deep question, you know all,
(23:55):
you know, all around the certain certain justices, I feel
like sometimes try to kind of harass the opposing counsel
if they feel like they're not getting the right answer
that they want or if they feel like they haven't penned.
I felt like, definitely Katanji Brown Jackson and maybe sort
of ordered that a little bit to Tennessee's.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
Counsel.
Speaker 4 (24:16):
Yeah, soliciter, thank you so so yeah, so there is
a little bit of intensity there is both sides seem
to get questions that they just couldn't answer or at
least to the satisfaction of the justices that seemed to
be pushing against them. It seemed like the solicitor from
Tennessee had a hard time trying to convince Katanji, Brown
(24:36):
Jackson and some people that kind of lean to her
way that this is not a sex based discrimination. It's
kind of interesting, though, you kind of alluded to it
that basically what the ACLU arguments is the ACLU fighting
against Tennessee's right to ban this is that basically anything
that even has to do with transcender remotely is by
definition a sex base discrimination, which seems a little bit
(25:00):
ex streme.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Well right, and.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
If the left succeeded in getting a US Supreme Court
to find that any such law constitutes a classification based
on sex, then at that point it essentially be untouchable.
I mean, it so be a very very very damaging precedent,
I think for the country. But at least the media reports,
(25:23):
and you had the advantage doctor Morrella Bean in the courtroom,
but the media reports suggest that five, if not six,
of the you know, so called conservative justices I view
them as more originalists, you know, are going to support
Tennessee on this and uphold the ban.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
Right. Yes, I think you're right that it would be
too far to just give blanket sex face discrimination to anything,
to have the word transgender. It's just kind of ridiculous
that medicine. Of course, you can regulate things that are
specific to women, are specific to men or whatever, So
that just seems too far. And yes, you're right, I
definitely think that they'll uphold the band. It's not but again,
(26:01):
this is not banning it in the whole country or
not being in the whole country. It's the same that
half of the states that have will continue to do that,
so the fight for evidence and protecting kids will continue.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
And it was so interesting me that Justice Roberts questioning
was so focused on Wait a second, these are such
medicine heavy issues. Isn't it more appropriate that state legislatures
decide these rather than the Supreme Court? And obviously a
helpful sign there. But doctor, in the last minute we have,
can you share your expertise and take us a little
(26:33):
deeper into what these different drugs do, these puberty blockers, etc.
And how they're so harmful to these kids, who, by
the way, aren't old enough to consent to them.
Speaker 4 (26:44):
Thanks for asking that, Dan, Yeah, I mean, if you
can't ask a kid to consent that he would never
be able to drive a Ferrari if he's three years
old and all he plays at pot wheels. So these
puberty blockers stop your ability to have sex, literally before
you have the ability to have sex. The president of
w PATH, the World Professional Association for Transgender Health, which
is really pro pushing this, these neutering medicines, chemicals, pumpting,
(27:09):
and the kids she has, he has admitted doctor Marcy
Bars that if a boy gets put on these at
eight to thirteen, which is when Colorado State Medicaid pays
for it, and just continue that on car to Medicaid
pays for that, and then you put them on a
cross sex foremones in their teams, which car to Medicaid
pays for. By the time they get to adulthood though
basically do not have a lot of equipment and it
(27:30):
won't work. And you know, I think that's a tragedy.
No matter what happens to these kids when they're adults,
they're gay, transtraate, whatever, I just think that's horrible for
their relationship status. And I think that makes a lot
of voters and doctors on any side. This is an
I really think a non part is an issue that's
horrible to sterilize these kids before they're old enough to
even know what they're losing.
Speaker 1 (27:51):
So sad and doctor, how can people follow you? And
I'd like to get together on air again soon and
deep dive this. But in the meantime is it where
can you be found?
Speaker 2 (28:01):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (28:02):
Please, Dan, this is just a pleasure to talk to you.
You can find me on x my at MOREL m
O double R E double L and then my degrees
which is M D and MPa so MOREL md MPH,
and you can find me online a call at doctors
dot org. And I'd encourage people to check the deal
Harm Medicines website stopharm database dot com. That's stoppaharm database
(28:24):
dot com, which shows how this is going on in
Colorado and to the two of one hundred twenty million
dollars across the country in kids under seventeen and a half.
Speaker 1 (28:33):
Well, I'm in trial next week. Why don't we try
to get together on air of the week after that
and do that deeper dive.
Speaker 4 (28:39):
Let's do it, Dan, I'd love to talk with you more.
Thanks for having me with you and your guests.
Speaker 1 (28:43):
Thank you, my friend. To have a safe trip back.
Take care that it is doctor Travis Morrell, MD. He
was actually in the Supreme Court courtroom today. How cool
is that? Hey, when we come back, we have some
tremendous texts. Not all the Texters happy with me, which
is a shock. Here on the Dan Capla Show.
Speaker 5 (29:01):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Let's get to these great texts.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Dan hipocrisy has the left Somo Kamala Pelosi both rumored
to be intoxicated quite often while at work. Yeah, we're
going back to Hegseth and the Left trying to destroy
him here over maybe some excessive drinking and I hope
he gets confirmed. Would not have been my first choice,
but Trump's entitled to his nobody's perfect I hope he
gets confirmed and the Left is not rewarded for this
(29:29):
hyena pack type approach to Trump nominees. Dan, why would
the person who assassinated the CEO of United Healthcare do
it in public? Obviously he knew where the gentleman was
staying and apparently his schedule, So why not why not
do the deed quietly in a hallway or in an elevator,
out of public view. That from Sarah, what a tremendous question,
(29:50):
because from published reports now we know this, if they're accurate,
this United CEO is staying at a hotel across the
street from where his meetings are going to be. So
at about six forty four am, he's just walking to
the hotel where the meetings are going to be. And
you've got according to an eyewitness, this assassin has been
(30:11):
out there all night. According to the eyewitness, the assassin's
been out there all night waiting now about twenty five
minutes before the shooting. So the assassin, to Sarah's point,
must have known the victim's scheduled the assassins at a
Starbucks about twenty five minutes before the shooting, apparently not
concerned he's going to miss connecting with the victim. So yeah,
(30:33):
great questions, Sarah. I don't have an answer to it.
We relayed the New York Post report earlier that the
victim was under investigation by DOJ along with several other
executives at the company for alleged insider trading. So is
it tied to something like that? Would that explain some
of them here? The other thing is, you know, when
(30:56):
you talk about this murderer that this murderer, you know,
only at half his face covered. And this murder was
then riding an electric bike. It wasn't one of the
public bikes that would have a GEO on it. It
was apparently some kind of private electric bike that he
then disappeared into Central Park on. But he did, he
(31:17):
did allow himself to be seen repeatedly. Another interesting thing.
And I know people can get caught up in the
horror of the moment, but I just saw this interview
on a network with.
Speaker 2 (31:28):
A guy who says he's an eyewitness.
Speaker 1 (31:30):
Appears credible, but it's a full face, open interview talking
about everything he saw. And obviously I think the witness
should be cooperating with law enforcement, but maybe not doing
a full face TV interview was a killer like this
Just to thought, Dan, our characteristics based laws like those
related to sex, race, ethnicity, and disability considered sacrosanc because
(31:53):
they're based on immutable characteristics. One hundred percent correct, texture
You are absolutely right about that. If sex or gender
becomes variable in laws based on that, they should no
longer be so ultimately powerful, absolutely brilliant text. Obviously, we're
talking about the transgender rights. I put that in quotes
case before the US Supreme Court today, where you know,
(32:15):
the Biden administration and the left are trying to say, hey,
this is just like race. We've got to have this
protected class status. Any laws that would negatively impact us
have to be viewed as classifications based on race. So yeah,
you can't touch us, and no, no, it's not immutable
in the same sense as race.
Speaker 2 (32:33):
Yeah, excellent point, Texter. Let's see Dan.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
I think he's going to partner his brother because I
think he was also involved in the Barisma stuff. I
don't think there's any doubt, Texter, that Jim Biden is
getting a pardon. But if you just joined us, thank you.
The news of the day on this front from Politico
is that Biden is considering pardoning Anthony Fauci, shift Liz Cheney,
(32:59):
and apparently a whole lot of other folks, which raises
the interesting question can you refuse a pardon because listen,
if I haven't committed any crime and somebody wants to
pardon me, well, when you pardon somebody, you convict them.
You convict them in the court of public opinion, and
they won't be behind bars of steel, but they will
(33:21):
be convicted out there in the court of public opinion,
and they will face various forms of consequence for that.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
So it'll be very interesting to.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
See if you see now that the stories are in
a Fauci or a Chainey or a shift, come out
and say I'm innocent. I don't need a pardoner, I
don't want to pardon. I'll refuse a pardon. Can you
even refuse a pardon? I'll have the answer for you
by tomorrow. Not something I've ever had to study. You
probably got the answer already. You probably just googled it
up as soon as I raised the question, Dan, If
(33:50):
Fauci has pardoned, I will be pissed.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
He is evil.
Speaker 1 (33:53):
Besides AIDS in COVID, what they did to those beagles
was criminal. That from Alexa, I have rarely been as
wrong about somebody as I was about Fauci. In the beginning,
I thought he was all that. I thought he was
a plus. I thought he was what the image portrayed,
And it didn't take long to figure out he engaged
(34:14):
in I think the worst malpractice in public health history.
I think he's so undermined public confidence in public health,
and that has done serious harm to America. And then
you think of all that unnecessary harm inflicted on the
children of America, not able to go to school, having
to wear those awful masks. Yet, yeah, just horrible, horrible stuff.
(34:39):
And hey, it's one thing, you know, really really good doctors,
like anybody's right, can be wrong about something, just honestly
wrong about. I think Fauci was a political operator. All
about Fauci, and I think he did a ton of
harm in the process. Criminal I haven't seen proof of crimes,
but I think he did a ton of harm to
americ Ryan tremendous job, as always, my friend, Thank you
(35:02):
for that, Kelly human sunshine. I think we all have
to take off our sweaters from around Kelly shoes so
bright and shiny join us tomorrow, please,
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