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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
Good afternoon. This is Heidigan All with Christy Burton Brown.
We are co hosting the Dan Kapli Show while Dan's
out on a trial, and we've been talking about the
murder of the United Healthcare CEO, and I wanted to
launch us the segment with what he had in the manifesto.
He says, basically, these parasites simply had it coming. A reminder,
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the US has the number one most expensive healthcare system
in the world, yet we rank roughly number forty two
in life expectancy. Now, I was reading some takes on this,
and I think there's some good explanations for this. I'm
not apologizing for our healthcare system, but there are some
points to be made. The US is the richest country
in the world, and it spends the most on healthcare.
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And the richer a country is, the more they spend
on healthcare, and the richer a country is, the more
healthcare it consumes, so then the ranking might be a
little bit misleading. We also subsidize a lot of our research,
and when we do that, it makes it probably probably
more in there's more of an incentive for them to
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charge less around the world if they can get huge
incentives and huge investments here in the US and then
flatten it out across the rest of the world that
aren't the richest countries on the planet. So I don't know,
there's lots to think about, lots to talk about. Christy,
I think we have a caller we do. Let's bring
in Larry from Thornton.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
He's been waiting over the break and I think, Larry,
you had a comment on Medicare in our current discussion,
So welcome to the dan Kapli show.
Speaker 4 (01:42):
Well, good afternoon, ladies. Yeah, it really irritates me when
I hear these people saying Medicare for all, Medicare for Oh,
they think Medicare is free. They're totally ignorant. For my
wife and I aren't. Medicare premiums for a year now
are four two hundred dollars a year, and my wife,
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because of previous health problems, is encouraged to take a
supplement policy, which is an additional three thousand, four hundred dollars,
So we pay seven six hundred and twenty dollars a
year for this medicare for all.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Wow, that's way more than free. And I agree with
you that a lot of people look back at that.
Speaker 5 (02:24):
How do you feel?
Speaker 2 (02:25):
How do you feel about fifty one million dollars being
spent next year on illegal immigrants to cover their healthcare
in Colorado?
Speaker 4 (02:33):
I'm totally against it. And you know, a lot of
these illegals they have under the counter job and they
send most of their money home to Venezuela or wherever
they came from. And I think there ought to be
a hefty tax on all dollars that leave the country.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
I did see that. I saw somebody speaking about that.
I don't know if it was President Trump, I can't remember.
But that's a very interesting approach. And I do believe in incentives,
and if you change incentives, it can magically transform anything
you're working on.
Speaker 6 (03:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:06):
All right, well, thank you very much. It's good to
listen to you this afternoon. You're good change, Thanks.
Speaker 5 (03:12):
Larry, Thanks Larry, all right, thank you.
Speaker 3 (03:16):
If you also have thoughts, you can call into the
DAN kapla show eight five five four zero five eight
two five five or texts Dan at five seven seven
three nine and Hew, do you I think what you
were talking about with our healthcare system and just the
reason it is more expensive in the United States. First,
I think you're right that it is an extreme, extremely
complicated issue. We couldn't even cover it in the show
if we wanted to take every second to talk about it.
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I think there's huge problems with the pharmaceutical industry and
how much people have to pay for basic medicines to
keep them alive. That's I say, even a separate issue.
But I think you're right that we pay for so
much research in the United States that benefits the entire world.
There's a lot of experimental treatments in the United States,
a lot of conditions we can treat and cure in
our country that other countries don't even attempt to do.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
So.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
Yes, does our healthcare system cost more because we're actually
saving people other countries can even try to save that.
It's a fact that people, you know, should be aware
of along with all the bad things.
Speaker 5 (04:10):
We should fix.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
I mean I just got a pretty interesting health diagnosis
last week, and I couldn't be happier about where I
live and the medical care I'm getting, and you know,
I feel so incredibly blessed. But I also think that
we've got to take care of American citizens first, and
we have to make sure that Larry and other families
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can afford their health care and that they can take
care of good care of themselves, and they don't forego
health care because they can't afford it. So you know,
I'm really I have so much compassion and grace for
the families that are here.
Speaker 5 (04:46):
That need health care.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
But there are a lot of good nonprofits and charities
that are working on that, and I believe that's the
solution that if people want to help with that problem
instead of using our tax dollars, then incentivize the nonprofits
to help in that arena and cover those costs well.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
In Heidi, I think, you know, what you're talking about
is something that's so true with so many things that
government tries to stick its nose into and say, oh,
we'll take care of it, we'll fund it, and of
course it's not government funding, it's the taxpayer funding it.
But instead of saying, you know what, most problems are
actually solved better by nonprofit, by churches, by communities, by
people who say, this is my passion, this is my cause.
Speaker 5 (05:22):
I want to go solve this for people. That's usually
what's the most successful.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Whereas when government steps in, they waste money, there's too
much bureaucracy. They're funding all these layers instead of the
actual problem it and it hurts even more people.
Speaker 2 (05:36):
You know, One example I use when people ask about
the government solving a problem versus the free markets is
Elon Musk.
Speaker 5 (05:42):
And going to space.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
When those two astronauts got stuck up at the space station,
it was not NASA or the government that went and
rescue them.
Speaker 5 (05:50):
It was Elon Musk. Hey, Elon, We've.
Speaker 2 (05:52):
Got like a call a friend hotline. And it's just fascinating.
I think that's going to apply with DOGE two. He's
going to they're going to see a lot of opportunities
to shift the dollars, kind of like what they're doing
with education, where they're saying to the states, use whatever innovative,
cool solutions you can find, have fun with it, you know,
make things better in your state.
Speaker 5 (06:12):
Use it as a little.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Experimental, you know, way to try different things in education.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
And I think that's the key to making our education
system better.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
You're right, And I think we see specifically an education
that one size doesn't fiddle, but we see it all
throughout the things government tries to put its hands on.
Speaker 5 (06:28):
We see one size doesn't fit.
Speaker 3 (06:29):
All when you're talking about immigrants, because some are gang members,
some are migrants who need to wait their turn to
come here and not just come here because they can.
Some are refugees, some are people seeking asylum. One size
doesn't fit all. And then you see it in business
with all the regulations that states try to impose on people,
the federal government does they act like, you know, businesses
are one big modelith instead of knowing that every small
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business is unique and needs to be free to grow
and serve its own customers. So I think, yes, we
need that mindset expanded far beyond the Department of Education.
We need infused into every single agency at the federal
level and the state level.
Speaker 5 (07:05):
And I don't know what you think, Heidi.
Speaker 3 (07:06):
I think if there was actually a recent pole done
on which appointees that President Trump has nominated are the
most popular and the least popular, I think Elon Musko's
He's done an actual point he so he wasn't in
the poll.
Speaker 5 (07:17):
I feel like he'd be the most popular.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
Yeah, I have to say, I think he just bought
a place near mar A Lago, or the rumor was
he was doing that. And I'm like, oh my gosh,
you put those two. They never sleep President Trump never sleeps.
Elon never sleeps.
Speaker 5 (07:32):
Is true. We're in the back is probably like, dude,
I have kids, like, come on, give me a break.
Speaker 2 (07:36):
But and then we've got the sleeper, JD Vance, who's
our vice president. And I think the turning point in
the election was the debate between JD Vans and Tim Walls.
Speaker 5 (07:46):
That was enlightning.
Speaker 2 (07:47):
JD did such a good job, and I love the
way he talked about how our movement is pro family,
and I think that was a real shift about how
to talk about the things we care about as Republicans conservatives,
and why we're so committed to family values and why
you know, we have a different perspective than those on
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the left. But our perspective means supporting families, helping them
eat well, helping them get healthcare, helping them have a
good education. And I think that was a big part
of the campaign shift.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
Yeah, I actually agree with you, and I think it
was just interestingly enough. As much as the Liberals like
to claim they have diversity in their movement, right and
look at the vice presidential debate, we have had Advancy
to be the first millennial in the White House, and
he is married to the daughter of immigrants, his children
are biracial, he's young, he came from Appalatia, like one
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of the poorest areas of the United States, real American
dream story there.
Speaker 5 (08:46):
And he completely schooled.
Speaker 3 (08:47):
Like I'm sorry, but the stereotype that the Democrats always
say we have like the old white guy.
Speaker 5 (08:52):
Now, my dad is an old white guy, my husband
probably will be one day, my son will be. So
I love that they're great.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Only point and bringing this up is that the Democrats
love to say that's all we ever run, that's all
we ever are. But the diversity was on our side
in addition to the skill and the answers that Jade
Vance had.
Speaker 5 (09:10):
And I think you're gonna see that.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
All throughout the Trump administration, the appointees that he's nominating.
Big diversity that's supposedly is only on one side, but
I think America will see it's really not. It's part
of who America is not.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
I mean, he picked Susie Wiles as his chiefest staff.
He picked Lenna McMahon as head of education. He has
Toulci Gabbard. He has some amazing women leading the charge
to transform America back to.
Speaker 5 (09:32):
The good old days.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
I saw a video of a mall scene from the
nineteen eighties Christmas time.
Speaker 5 (09:38):
And everybody's like, oh my gosh, we missed that, and
I'm like, well, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
It was pretty intense, but it's just people are yearning
for the old way where we weren't all buried in
our screens and we were having conversation and collaboration, riding
our bikes around the neighborhood, breaking out of hoses, whatever,
the eighties kid thing. You're young, a lot younger than me, Christie,
but you know, I'm really excited about what's to come.
Speaker 5 (10:00):
Know me too, Me too, Heidi.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
I think those are some great points, and we're about
to take a break. I will leave people with this segment.
Speaker 5 (10:06):
With this. Robert F.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
RFK Junior was the most popular nominee forty eight percent,
Rubio second forty six, and the bottom was Pete Hegseth
at only thirty one percent. Yes, that's very interesting, but
we'll talk about more and I think Heidi and I
are definitely gonna cover what we would do if we
were governor or what we think Jared Polish should be tackling.
So stay tuned for that. You're on the Dan Kapla
Show'm Christy Burton Brown with Heidi Ganal.
Speaker 7 (10:29):
And now back to the Dankapless Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (10:32):
Good afternoon. It's Heidi Ganall and Christy Burton Brown co
hosting The Dankapless Show. Dan's out on a trial. I
I am watching the craziest story about drones over New Jersey.
Speaker 5 (10:44):
Christy, I don't know if you've heard much about this.
I haven't. You've been to lighten us and this cracks
me up. This is a tweet.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
The FBI has tracked grandmothers down for walking into the
Capitol on January sixth and taking a selfie, Yet they
can't find out whose car sized drones are flying over
New York and New.
Speaker 5 (11:01):
It kind of sums it up.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
But I have a clip tat up Brian does that's
kind of interesting. Is a little long, but bear with
me and listen to this interview with the Pentagon.
Speaker 8 (11:11):
So Brianna Can you tell me what the Pentagon is
doing to address this issue of drone sightings over New Jersey.
It's near sensitive installations. The FBI is involved.
Speaker 5 (11:21):
What is the Pentagon doing?
Speaker 9 (11:22):
Sure, so at this time so aware of those drone
sightings that have been reported. At this time, we have
no evidence that these activities are coming from a foreign
entity or the work of an adversary. We're going to
continue to monitor what is happening. But you know, at
no point where our installations threatened when this activity was occurring.
Speaker 8 (11:42):
Can you rule out that these are American drums as
military drunes.
Speaker 9 (11:47):
These are not US military drones. Again, this is being
investigated by local law enforcement. What our initial assessment here
is that these are not drones or activities coming from
a foreign entity or adversary.
Speaker 8 (12:03):
Representative Jeff Andrew, who is a Republican from New Jersey,
was just on the air saying that Iraan launched a
mothership probably about a month ago that contains these drones,
and that that mothership is off the coast of the
East Coast of the United States.
Speaker 5 (12:18):
Is there any truth to that. There is not any
truth to that.
Speaker 9 (12:22):
There is no Iranian ship off the coast of the
United States, and there's no so called mothership launching drones
towards the United States.
Speaker 5 (12:30):
Christy, this is nuts if you don't yep. I mean,
if they.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Don't know what they are, how can they say that
they're not a foreign adversary.
Speaker 5 (12:37):
I know, I was.
Speaker 3 (12:38):
Already down some notes while they were talking, because that's
the first time I heard that press conference. And they're like,
our installations aren't being threatened. Okay, Well, first of all,
drones from foreign countries usually spy on you rather than
attacking right now, So of course they're not shooting you
down right now.
Speaker 5 (12:52):
It'll be a decoration of war.
Speaker 3 (12:53):
But they absolutely spy on American installations all the time.
And I agree with you if they just because you
don't have evidence they are foreign doesn't mean they're not.
Speaker 6 (13:00):
Now.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
I mean, this story is getting wilder and wilder. And
the size of an suv each of them.
Speaker 5 (13:05):
That's insane.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
We're just letting them cruise around surveilling New Jersey and
New York, apparently over Trump's golf course too.
Speaker 5 (13:12):
But the world we live in today is very, very odd, Christy.
We talked last night and today about king for a day.
If we were governor for a day.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
What would we do, Like, what if we landed in
the Governor's office January first?
Speaker 5 (13:28):
What would be your first priority?
Speaker 3 (13:30):
Well, you know, I have a feeling you have thought
about this, and I'm going to guess that your answers are.
Speaker 5 (13:34):
Going to be better than mine. No, no, no, I will
give it a shot.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
Specifically with one thing, and I really think it relates
to public safety. I think voters were very very clear
in Colorado in November. They passed every single public safety
measure that was on the ballot given to them. Two
of those were run by Advanced Colorado Where'm the executive
vice president, the Trajany Sentencing Measure and the Funding for
Law Enforcement and Death Benefit when a law enforcement officer
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dies in the line of duty. And the third one
was referred by the legislature actually and a good referral
by the legislature to allow I know, shocking, I'm sorry,
but it would allow people incredibly accused with evidence of
first degree murder to not be released on bail. And
voters passed all three of those by good margins. In fact,
Truth and Sentencing was passed by the highest margin of
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any citizen initiated measure on the ballot last or this year.
Speaker 5 (14:24):
And I think the important point to mean, so what.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
Matters if you were a governor is the legislature had
the ability to pass specifically the.
Speaker 5 (14:32):
Truth and Sentencing.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
It was run through two years in a row eight
to three Democrats and committee said no to Truth and Sentencing,
to keeping the most violent criminals in jail, not back
on our streets. When we have these people repeating crime
and literally going out and murdering people and abusing children,
and the legislatures like, no, let's keep them on the streets,
and clearly voters said no, we don't like that when
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it was in their hands to do something. And so
if I were governor, I would get the legislature under
control and say we are going to pass public safety
measures and stop leaving up to voters to protect themselves.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
Christy, what the heck is going on with these people?
How do they think that is okay to keep violent
criminals on the street? Like what goes through their minds
when they're voting down these things?
Speaker 5 (15:17):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (15:18):
And I think, you know, there are a lot of
reforms that our criminal justice system needs, but I think
the problem is that it is a criminal first mindset
instead of a victim first mindset.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
And sometimes I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
You do actually have to choose between the criminal and rehabilitating.
Helping the criminal, and I support rehabilitation when we can
do it, and keeping victims and communities safe.
Speaker 5 (15:37):
Sometimes you have to make the hard choices.
Speaker 3 (15:39):
And the people in charge right now are making the
choice of letting criminals go, giving them a second chance.
Maybe they'll be better this time. That's what Jared Polis's
parole board has done. I'd also like get rid of
the current parole board in and getting appointees, but that's
what they're doing, and they're not picking victims. It's a
huge problem.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
And we're number four in the nation for auto theft, right,
I think that's.
Speaker 5 (16:00):
I haven't I know. We're like the third most inangerous
state in the nation. Yeah, as a whole, Like how
are they proud of that statistic? I don't know. So, yeah,
I agree that would be a huge priority.
Speaker 2 (16:09):
And on that front, I would immediately cancel our status
as a sanctuary state. I would demand that Mike Johnston
cancel our status and the other cities that are sanctuary
cities and tell them you dang well better cooperate with
the federal government and get illegal criminals out of Colorado.
I would take fentanyl head on and prosecute the stink
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out of people who are dealing that drug, and then
I would do everything I can to empower ice here
in our law enforcement to clean things up as fast
as we can.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
No, and that's what voters are looking for. I think
it was very clear on the ballot. And the hard
thing I think for conservatives is whenever voters are asked
to decide on issues, they almost always side with us
on economic and safety issues in particular, and they're very
close to our position on a lot of education issues,
very very close.
Speaker 5 (16:59):
Social issues that always agree with us on.
Speaker 3 (17:00):
We know that, but when it comes to candidates, you
don't see that translate. And I think that's where a
lot of the work that you're doing Heidi right now
at the grassroots level can make a big difference in Colorado.
Hopefully the issue work that we're doing in advanced Colorado
I think will make a big difference too in helping
people make that association that hmm, who are the people
supporting these issues in policies that you actually want to pass,
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Who are the politicians elected who are not doing them
and leaving them to the people. But you know, it's long,
hard work, it's not incident, it's not as fast as
we want it to be.
Speaker 5 (17:31):
But I think it can be done well.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
I think the media, the liberal corporate media here in Colorado,
plays a big part in that. When I was running,
it was almost impossible to get a fair interview where
the title of the article would be related to what
the conversation was. And they didn't want to talk about
our policy solutions. They wanted to defend the Democrats policy
solutions or problems I would call them.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
And so even if you're a great candidate with a
great message and you're all about crime and closing the
border and doing the right things for Coloradom's, the voters
don't hear that. And that's why we started Rocky Mountain
Voice to try and give our candidates and our side
of the fence away, to get their word out, to
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talk about our policy solutions, and to let voters know, hey,
there is another side to the story, and we have
really good ideas about how to solve these problems, but
you're not hearing them because the media all clumps together
and decides to gang up on us, and you know,
we are conservative women the number one targeted folks from
a certain news outlet.
Speaker 5 (18:37):
Abb that's so funny. That's so funny.
Speaker 3 (18:39):
And I think one thing that some mainstream media outlets do,
and you know, I have good relationships with a number
of reporters who I appreciate, but I think often mainstream
media can get carried away with choosing things that get
them attention and not things that actually can have the
biggest effect, right, And so when they're interviewing with candidates,
some as they pick out the one statement that ooh,
you worded that wrong, and it's really not even a
policy statement it is, and they forget the policy the
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things that actually make a difference if someone were elected,
because hey, it gets clicks. It's clear.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
You know what we could do too as governor. We
could be like Trump and have our own Twitter feed
and just communicate directly to the voters of Colorado.
Speaker 5 (19:11):
We could do that.
Speaker 3 (19:13):
You're on the Dan Gaplas Show with Christy Burton, Brown
and Heidigan All call in over the break, give us
your thoughts eight five five four zero five eight two
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Speaker 7 (19:21):
Nine you're listening to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 5 (19:36):
Brian is making sure we stay awake.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
Here on the Dan Kapla Show, Becusey Britton Brown.
Speaker 5 (19:41):
Here is Heidi Ginnell.
Speaker 3 (19:42):
Hosting while Dan is in trial this week, and we
want to get back to more things that we would
do if we.
Speaker 5 (19:47):
Were go going to for a day, like what we
tackle in one day.
Speaker 3 (19:50):
But first of all, we have a caller who I
think wants to talk about a topic we had earlier
in the show, which was the death of the United
Healthcare CEO. The murder of the ceo, we talked about
the healthcare system. So Brian from Arvada, it sounds like
you have some thoughts for us on the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 5 (20:06):
Brian, My first though.
Speaker 6 (20:08):
Is you guys should take over for Dan Kaplis and
we should retire him. No, you guys are better, But
you know Dan has this place.
Speaker 5 (20:18):
I mean, we're just different. That's what I heard. Is
different than what do you know?
Speaker 6 (20:23):
If you guys, do you guys remember the picture when
that kid was in the coffee. I guess the girl
behind the counter was so beautiful that he had a
blow his cover, pull down his mask and flirt with her.
But if you look at that picture, look at the
strap on his backpack, and then when you see him
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in his full mask actually going after the guy and
shooting him, look at the same strap. It's different, and
so is the shirt.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
Oh.
Speaker 6 (20:55):
I don't know what's going on. I know it's a
conspiracy therry. He probably did it. But I'm just saying
I observe everything.
Speaker 5 (21:04):
You know.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
What I find really fascinating is that we know more
about this guy in the last however many days than like,
we know so much more about this guy than we
know about the two assassination attempts on Donald Trump and
those two guys that really bothers me.
Speaker 6 (21:19):
Well, I guess that guy was in girls. That guy
was in court today, I guess, and they're like, hey,
we'll just put it off for another year till December.
No big worries. He had no email, nothing. Yeah, there's
no trace on this guy. But the guy that tried
to shoot the CEO or that actually executed the CEO guy,
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Oh yeah, we know everything in like, you know, twenty
four hours.
Speaker 2 (21:46):
The whole thing is it's very weird, and I mean,
so many people don't trust the media anymore. The mainstream media,
and I think it's really rising up citizen journalists on
x and other platforms to do research. And you know,
I found that ex is pretty quick at correcting this information.
Now they have community notes and people are quick to
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question things and ask for supporting documents or evidence.
Speaker 5 (22:10):
And I'm really impressed with how that's played out.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (22:14):
Well, you know, I'm twenty two girls. Now we've got
a bunch of drones. They're going, well, no, they're not
hobby drones. They're really big guys. They're playing all over
New York, all over our bases and stuff. Maybe it's
Biden's last sellout.
Speaker 4 (22:28):
He said, hey, man, good.
Speaker 6 (22:31):
The family a couple of bucks for this one. Buddy.
Oh no, it makes sense. And you got John Pierre
that gal, come on, I can't figure it all out,
and she just blabs our mouth off. I mean, we're
all being played for idiots, and we need trumping there
a little sooner, but we got to be patient. That's
our Christmas present, you know, the twe only.
Speaker 3 (22:53):
Six weeks left, roughly, I think, And you know, I mean,
and this is where I mean, I don't really know
that much about the drones. He just totally about it
today actually, but it's where I would question, you know,
our foreign governments trying to do a last hurrah with
spying and doing things like that.
Speaker 5 (23:07):
With Biden office, who doesn't have the Pentagon together.
Speaker 6 (23:11):
Out of cash, you know, their moments have got some
more hookers to.
Speaker 5 (23:16):
Buy eat wo wow.
Speaker 6 (23:20):
I think, Hey, Merry Christmas at Baltia YouTube Ran and
you have the best show of the whole year. You
tell damn that no.
Speaker 5 (23:31):
No, no no, We're going to keep that quiet.
Speaker 7 (23:34):
Thank you.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
Thanks Ryan, going to talk to you.
Speaker 6 (23:37):
Ah.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
The drones, that's I mean, that's going to turn into
an interesting story. But again it goes back to mistrust
with the media. It's so the governments and the government
goodness gracious. I think the Syria, the whole thing that
happened in Syria too, is a little suspect that it
happened so quickly right after the election.
Speaker 5 (23:54):
I just feel uncomfortable about that.
Speaker 2 (23:56):
I think there's so much more to this story with
taking out a sod and everything that's happened on that front.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
So many I feel like there's so many pieces to
put together. With Biden in charge, if you look over
the last few years, like why did so many of
these things actually happen, and I do think a lot
of people, you know, want to get into conspiracy theories
these days.
Speaker 5 (24:12):
I don't tend to be a huge fan of that.
Speaker 3 (24:15):
But the questioning of what actually happened, and when we're
being told the truth and when we're being lied to,
and when the government's being transparent and when it's just
telling a convenient story, there's a legitimate questions that people have.
And so that is what I really think Trump will
do and can do and should do, is make the
government more transparent. That's what Elon Musk will clearly push
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for because it was transparency and we all need it.
Speaker 5 (24:39):
If we're governor for a day.
Speaker 2 (24:41):
Yeah, on the transparency front, what just happened with Jenna
Griswold and the leaked passwords and then her invest her
picking a law firm to investigate herself. That's actually like
I think one of her biggest donors or something. There
was some weird connection, you know. If I was governor
for a day, I would absolutely take on transparency and elections.
I would get us out of Eric, which is a
really interesting system that the Democrats created to inflate the
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voter roles I'd clean up the voter rolls and get
all the folks that should be on their off I
would make it ask only if you want a mail
in ballot. And I would make voting on a holiday.
I would make election Day a holiday so that people
could take the day off and celebrate.
Speaker 5 (25:19):
Their right to vote. It's so important.
Speaker 2 (25:22):
And finally, one thing that is missing that we found
in this whole process is outside auditors. All the parts
of the election process are self regulated, like they audit themselves.
Speaker 5 (25:35):
That is not okay.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
We found over thirty thousand missing undeliverable ballots in the
post office system in nine counties. A little election integrity
group that's doing great work did an audit and we
still can't get answers. And same with what came out
about the remote access in the machines that Matt Crane
finally admitted that twelve counties have remote Wi Fi access
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in the machines, and it's not so much.
Speaker 5 (26:00):
That it's in there.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
Maybe they haven't, there's no nefarious activity, but they lied
about it. Jenna Griswold lied about it and said that everything,
every way to access the Internet in the machines was
stripped in the trusted build.
Speaker 5 (26:12):
She said that in twenty twenty.
Speaker 2 (26:13):
So again it goes to transparency, it goes to telling
the truth. And we're trying to get a lot of
these stories out on Rocky Mountain Voice, stories that the
media won't cover, the traditional media.
Speaker 5 (26:22):
But it's there's so much to cover. It's like whack
a mole every day.
Speaker 3 (26:26):
That's so true, that's so true. And how do you
think you're right about independent auditors and voices outside the
government actually holding them responsible and checking up on what
they're actually telling us. I think, you know, we saw
it some recordings that were released of Jenna Griswold and
her I think deputy Secretary of State talking to county clerks,
like democratic county clerks were like, why in the world didn't.
Speaker 5 (26:45):
You tell us this?
Speaker 3 (26:46):
Why weren't you honest with us, Like we're your people
in government and you let us find out through the media.
There's just a lot, and it's to cover their own tails, honestly,
Why she does those kind of things and it's not right.
I think you have a lot of great ideas. I
think one thing I'd add to that too is voter
id law. I actually think we should have it here
in Colorado. I think the vote that happened Nevada was
actually super interesting. Nevada is a similar ish to Colorado,
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like a blue mostly blue state, but it wasn't always
a blue state. And they also have some form of
mail in balloting, and they still found a way to
require a voter ID for that and said you have
to give the last four numbers of either your driver's
license or your Social Security card if you're going to
do a mail in balloting. It passed with seventy three
percent of the vote in Nevada because I think people
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want to trust not only did their vote counts. It's
like an assurance that my vote actually is being counted,
but that you know someone else isn't cheating. People want
to be able to trust results as happens on both sides.
There's not only election deniers and on the Republican side,
like look at Hillary Clinton.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Oh my god, the Democrats are in an uproar right
now about Trump winning. I mean, it's so hilarious to
see everybody, Oh my gosh, all of a sudden, all
the Democrats are election deniers, right, but.
Speaker 5 (27:54):
They're not being called that.
Speaker 3 (27:57):
Let's just say that maybe people shouldn't say certain things
and make up certain stories that they don't know.
Speaker 5 (28:02):
I'm okay with that, but.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
Let's also have more accountability in our election systems. A
lot of the points that you bring out independent auditing,
real management of Desert Aiasate's office, and I support voter
idea laws well.
Speaker 2 (28:13):
And I think that the issue with the machines is,
you know, we've we're probably we're going to have technology
involved in elections going forward because that's the way of
the world. But bringing in outside auditors to make sure
that everything's okay, maybe looking at being able to look
at the source code, not relying on a vendor to
self regulate themselves. And I think that's you know, the
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voter's perception is our reality, and if they don't trust
the vendors that are providing the technology, then perhaps we
need to find different vendors, or perhaps we need to
bring in outside auditors to look at the systems and
processes and just rebuild trust with our elections.
Speaker 3 (28:47):
Yeah, it comes to trust is a key. I think
of a lot of things we've been talking about today.
The American scholar idems want trust rebuilt in government, in
the media in so many ways, it comes with transparency,
accountability and all the things we've talked about.
Speaker 5 (28:59):
We do it.
Speaker 3 (28:59):
To take a break, I'm Christy Burton Brown with Hidigan
all here on the Dan Kapola Show.
Speaker 5 (29:03):
You can call in. We're gonna have one more segment.
Speaker 3 (29:05):
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we would do if we were governor for a day.
Speaker 7 (29:16):
And now back to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 5 (29:19):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
The Dan Kaplis Show is Christy Burton Brown and Heidigan
All our last segment together tonight, not forever. Thanks for
tuning in to listen with us. One of I think
the most fun things we've done tonight is just talk
about what we would do if we were a governor
for a day. And I mean, Heidi, if you have
this main ideas in one day, what would you do
with four years?
Speaker 5 (29:36):
One thing I know we wanted to still cover was education.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
It's top of mind for so many parents out there
wondering what's going to happen in Colorado's education system, what
changes should be made? And Colorado currently is one of
the best states. Actually, when it comes to school choice
with current law, the problem is with the current party
in charge and they're drift away from school choice.
Speaker 5 (29:58):
Are those laws here to stay forever?
Speaker 4 (30:00):
I think?
Speaker 5 (30:00):
So, Heidi, what do you think some of the dangers are. Oh,
I know, I'm really scared.
Speaker 2 (30:04):
I think they're they're chomping at the bit to get
rid of our charter schools, our ability to homeschool without regulations,
our ability to move to different neighborhood schools if we
need to.
Speaker 5 (30:17):
And the thing is, you know, if things were working
really well, if our.
Speaker 2 (30:20):
Kids were doing great and super successful, all right, fine,
keep going the way we are and make your changes.
But their changes don't work. Like parents want choice now
more than ever. I have four kids that learn very differently,
every single one of them. One went through the public
school system, one goes to private high school, one you know,
one gets homeschool.
Speaker 5 (30:39):
They're all different.
Speaker 3 (30:40):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (30:41):
So I love having that choice and I don't want
it taken away right exactly.
Speaker 3 (30:45):
And I think that's what get to worry about in
Colorado is not only at the state level, I think,
but some of the local districts. They don't listen to
parents and part the biggest problem is even in conservative
districts across the state, no conservative wants to run for
the school board. Actually, you see this in rural areas.
Actually it's the liberal activists, the very few liberal activists
in the community who actually run for school board. And
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so then who is making these decisions of whether or
not to allow a charter school?
Speaker 5 (31:10):
And you see hundreds of parents and how do you
know this because you're so involved in it.
Speaker 3 (31:14):
Hundreds of parents sign up on waiting lists to get
into a charter school, and the district says, nope, we're
going to keep you trapped in a school you don't
want to be in. And they use the justification of well,
the neighborhood school needs all the money, but you're trapping
kids in a system that isn't working for them that
parents want another option. But you think a failing system
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needs all the money.
Speaker 6 (31:36):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
I'm a big advocate of education savings accounts, and that's
where the government money goes to the parents to decide
how they want to spend it. In many many states
around the country are implementing these, mostly conservative states, and
so as a parent, you get kind of a credit
to use for a private school. A religious school, a
charter school, a different neighborhood school, whatever.
Speaker 5 (31:58):
School you see is best.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
We're home school and I really think that's the way
of the future and it's going to spur innovation. Micro
schools are taking off where like ten families may get
together and hire a teacher.
Speaker 5 (32:09):
I love that concept. Yeah, that's a great one.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
So if I was governor for a day, I would
put essays on the agenda and make sure that parents
had a choice, especially with all the woke stuff happening
in Colorado and them standing up health clinics in Colorado
in schools and giving twelve year olds the ability to
make medical decisions for themselves. It's ridiculous and often without
notifying parents, right, And that's the thing is parents know
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better for their kids than the government.
Speaker 1 (32:34):
Does.
Speaker 5 (32:35):
You see that in so many aspects of education.
Speaker 3 (32:37):
And now you know, with me about to be on
the state Board of Education, I'll get sworn in in January.
Curriculum transparency is also a big issue that comes up
to standards, and thankfully, in Colorado, the state cannot.
Speaker 5 (32:48):
Force standards on local districts.
Speaker 3 (32:49):
They can just suggest them, and local districts can make
their own choice because looking through some of these first
grade standards yesterday at some orientation meetings, they're super disturbing,
and I can guarantee you that most parents aren't alway
at all that this book list for first graders exists.
That these standards recommending that first graders learn about LGBTQ
famous people in history, which means they have to learn
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about what it means to be LGBTQ at the age
of six or seven. Most parents are aware of that.
I think it starts in fourth grade in Colorado.
Speaker 5 (33:17):
It doesn't. It starts much earlier.
Speaker 3 (33:18):
So transparency for parents to say, yes, I still want
my kids to go to a school like that, or no,
I don't. A huge, huge fan of transparency for parents
in booklists, curriculum being available online. You should be able
to walk into your principal's office and ask for anything
that goes on at the school and be told what exists.
And I think for me, the other thing that I
would do if I were a governor is used and
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you you couldn't do it alone. You'd have to use
the legislature to do it. But to make charter schools
are right in Colorado actually because right now they exist,
they can exist, but I a permanent right. I think
it should be in the constitution that we have charters,
we have them permanently, and then in statute we should
do even more to equalize funding for charter schools. So
I know they made improvements in that last year, but
it should happen even.
Speaker 2 (34:00):
I love that Christian and I think we have a
couple minutes left. The last thing I would tackle is
the business environment. I would do doze Colorado, and like
we talked about earlier, I would cut away at the bureaucracy,
the regulations, the ability to build housing. I mean, one
of the key issues that young people care about in
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Colorado is affordable housing.
Speaker 5 (34:22):
And the way you make housing.
Speaker 2 (34:23):
More affordable is you unleash the free market. You reduce
regulations and zoning requirement. I mean, you just have to
make it easier for builders who want to invest in
the community to do so, and they will build what
the market wants. Absolutely, And so I think reducing regulation,
reducing taxes, reducing fees, which are taxes, making sure that
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it's easy to start a business, It's easy to run
a business, and people want to come to Colorado to
do business. And I would go back to the pledge
I made when I was running, and that's I'm going
to reduce the bureaucracy by ten percent a year in
my first term or forty percent.
Speaker 5 (34:59):
And that will reduce the state budget.
Speaker 2 (35:00):
And I would love to go to zero income tax
in Colorado and reduce lots of other taxes. Property taxes,
I think are It's going to become more and more
popular in different states.
Speaker 5 (35:09):
Texas is looking at this.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Of doing away with property taxes because if you own
that house and you have to pay property taxes, do
you really own that house or does the government?
Speaker 5 (35:18):
Well, and that's one way we can make life a
little bit easier for our seeders too.
Speaker 3 (35:21):
Many of them have paid off their houses right, and
yet their price out of the home they paid off
because property taxes continue to rise. And thankfully we were
able to solve a lot of the property tax rising
in Colorado this year with a special session in the legislature,
but it doesn't eliminate them, and so that's.
Speaker 5 (35:36):
Definitely something Colorado should look at in the future. Thanks Hidi,
So thanks Christy. This has been so fun.
Speaker 2 (35:40):
I really appreciate the time with you and with Ryan
and Kelly and Dan.
Speaker 5 (35:45):
We hope you're back soon and hope you win your trial. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3 (35:50):
Thanks for listening with us to the Dan Gaplos Show tonight.