Hour 2 with Heidi Ganahl - 12-30

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:06):
Ladies and gentlemen in this corner from the University of Colorado.
Thirty years in Lorraine, fighting for truth, justice.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
And the American Way. Dan chap Glass Hollow.

Speaker 3 (00:24):
Everyone, it's Heidi Ganol filling in for Dan Kaplis today
and tomorrow tomorrow. We will have Congresswoman Lauren Bobert on
at the four thirty five break, So join us. We're
going to talk a lot about predictions for twenty twenty
five tomorrow. Just to give you a little taste, I
did a little Twitter poll, an ex poll, and Mark
Kaiser says his top predictions for next year. Polis and

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Johnston are going to do well. I won't say the
word a criminal walk for not obeying federal law because
they've said they would do that. I guess pr bonds eliminated,
catalytic converters stolen off all legislators, vehicles Denver and Boulders
secede from Colorado, and wolves are populated in Boulder, Jesse.
How realistic do you think? That? Is not very That

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sounds good in theory, especially the wolves. I do think
they're coming closer to the Never Metro area. It's kind
of crazy, but I want to wrap up the conversation
with Bob, we talked a little bit about how you
can get involved in helping restore trust in our elections.
And one of the things that I didn't understand when
I first after the election of twenty two, when I

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first got engaged in kind of doing this review and
analysis of what happened in that election, I didn't realize
how much power the county commissioners have. And sixty percent
or so, I'm not sure if that number's like I
think it's in the ballpark, but a good majority of
county commissioners in Colorado are conservative, They're Republicans, and they
have a lot of power over what happens with the

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county clerk, with the county attorney. They hire and fire
the attorney, and the attorney gives a lot of advice
to the county clerk. And so I would hope that
we would have some commissioners that you all you all
know your commissioners, likely because this audience is pretty on
the ball as far as staying in touch with their
elected officials. Talk to your commissioners, ask them if they

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can do a couple of things. One is to make
sure that their drop boxes, your drop boxes in the
county are high quality, they're pointed in the right direction,
and that someone's reviewing the footage even live stream them.
I kudos to Douglas County after we brought this up,
they decided to live stream their drop boxes and that
provides confidence and trust in our systems. The other thing

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is ask them if there is remote Wi Fi access
in their voting systems, and not just capabilities, but does
it connect, Why does it connect? When does it connect?
And if there are capabilities, why can't they just remove them?
They can. Don't let them tell you they can't. They
can remove them. They can remove the little cards, the
things that make the Wi Fi go. I'm not a techie,
but it's going to take some pressure from all of you,

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especially in those twelve counties where they've admit it that
they have that. The last thing is ask the county
commissioners to ask the county clerk and work with the
county attorney to make sure that the local post office,
the US Post Office in that county is providing very
detailed invoices and tracking of the undeliverable ballots that are
being returned to them, that they are returning to the

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clerk's office there's no reason that shouldn't be detailed out.
We should know exactly how many ballots are returned undeliverable
and are not lost in the Netherlands. And then finally
ask them if they would be willing to bring in
an outside auditorist specialist to look at the signature verification process,
the voter roles in the county, make sure that there

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aren't illegal or non citizens on the voter rolls, or
that folks that should have been taken off the voter
rolls are off. That's been a problem in the past,
and obviously the Secretary of State said that's not okay.
You can't do that. You can't audit anything. Basically, I'm
exaggerating a little bit hopeful, but I would suggest somebody

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needs to take her on on that front and bring
in an outside auditor, try and do some looks at
the process, make sure everything's okay, and then be willing
to go to court with her if you need to. So,
I think you've got a lot of citizens across Colorado
that would back you up if you're a county clerk
or a county commissioner who wants to take that on.
I've tried talking to our Douglas County commissioners about these

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issues and the clerk and haven't been able to since
we did this audit, they haven't been willing to sit
down and talk about it. And that's where I live.
It's really really unfortunate, especially since I was a candidate
for a statewide office and that was the election I
wanted to talk about. But you, as a citizen have
a lot of power, and you have a lot of
influence over your county commissioners, who have influence over the

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County attorney and the County of Clerk. They're all elected,
and you've got to speak up, and you've got to
ask them to hold Secretary of State accountable, Like why
aren't they more upset? Why aren't a county clerks and
county commissioners more upset about the bios password lak. She's
basically getting off with no consequences when Tina Peters is
sitting in jail for pretty much the same thing. That's

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not okay. But it takes all of us to speak
up about it. We've got to speak up. We've got
to use our bully pulpits when we have them. If
you have a Twitter account, if you have a Facebook
group speak up about this. We've got some time now
before the next election this fall. There's some very very
critical school board elections coming up, and so I want
to talk a little bit about how you engage engage

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on that front too. But to wrap this part up,
it's going to take all of you. You can't sit
around and wait for someone to come in and fix
everything on the election front. It's going to take for
each of you to get involved. And Colorado Elections at
Colorado Institute for Fair Elections is doing a really good
job and they're activating volunteers if you want to get involved.
They actually helped put up a dropbox citizen observer program

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in this last election. I helped with it too, and
we got volunteers all across Colorado to actually observe dropboxes
because the government wasn't doing its job and making sure
that they were secure. So we did it for them.
And it was quite a battle to get that through
and kind of okayed by the Secretary of State's office.
They weren't happy about it, but that's our First Amendment

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right as citizens. And so there's lots of things you
can do to get engaged. You can also be an
election judge a pole watcher. You've got time to train
and to learn and to get involved on that front.
And this election coming up on the school boards and
city council races is going to be really important in Colorado.
But it'll tee you up. Hopefully, we have a big

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army of educated volunteers who are going to be activated
in the midterms in twenty six because that's going to
be all at war. The Democrats are not going to
take this last, you know, without fighting back. So that's
going to happen in twenty six. So what can you do.
You can get involved with Colorado Institute for Fair Elections

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CEO fair Elections dot org. You can also become a
leader in your own neighborhood. You know a lot of
people on x are saying to me, like, who's going
to take the lead of the GOP in Colorado. Who's gonna,
you know, basically manage the comeback? And it's actually you.
You've got to do that in your own neighborhood. All
politics are local and there's nothing stopping you from creating

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a list of your like minded neighbors, hosting an event,
getting things started. You can work with your precinct chair
even if you're not a Republican, a registered Republican, reach
out to your county GOP, tell them you want to
help out, you want to get involved, and there's lists
that you can get of people and how they vote
in your Neighborhood's kind of creepy, but they're available, and
you can invite people to a barbecue, invite people to

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the local classroom, invite people to the library to meet up.
And then also you need to attend all your local meetings.
You need to go to your school board meetings, your
city council meetings, your county commissioner meetings. They're put online.
Also you can watch online, but I really want you
to go live so you can experience it. You can testify.

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My older daughter actually testified for the first time at
a Douglas County school board meeting a few weeks ago,
and it was very empowering. And she's heard a lot
of things on the campaign and helping me in politics,
but actually doing it and engaging and being a voice
for what you believe in makes a difference. It makes
a difference in how you pay attention to things. And
then finally, we've got a great community on X. If

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you go to my profile. Right below it, it says
Colorado's Road Back to Red. We've got about sixteen hundred
people in that ex community and every day we're talking
about what you can do to turn Colorado around. We
call it our fight Back in five fight back in
five minutes, something that takes five minutes every day that
you can do to turn Colorado around as a citizen.
And you don't have to be a Republican, you don't

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have to be even conservative. You can just be a
citizen who cares about Colorado and wants to make a
difference and have a voice. You have to join the group,
so you have to request and then we'll add you
in and we'll get you off on your way and
doing your fight backs in five every day. So in
a little bit we're going to have Heather booth On,
who's a school board member in Albert County. There's some

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really interesting developments going on there with some books in
the district and a lawsuit that's been filed by the ACLU.
We'll talk more about that, but I'm calling twenty twenty
five the year of the school Board for Colorado. There
are some critical races around the state. We're going to
teach you how to get engaged, how to make a difference.

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We're going to practice for the midterms, and we're going
to take back our state, one neighborhood at a time,
and you are the leader of your neighborhood. You're going
to make a list of all your like minded friends.
You're going to host events. You're going to do this
with some friends so you're not alone. You're going to
attend city council meetings, county commissioner meetings, school board meetings.
Get to know who your elected officials are, your state representatives,

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your state senators, and you're going to get in touch
with the precinct chair, which is the neighborhood kind of
captain for the Republican Party. If you're a registered Republican,
if you're unaffiliated, you should still do that. And also
if you're a libertarian. The Libertarians and the conservative movement
and the Republicans are working very well together right now,
and we'd love to have more opportunities to join forces

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and defeat the progressive agenda of Colorado that's destroying our state.
So if you're not already on X, take the leap.
It's the new way to get news it's the only
way to get news now. The legacy media is dying.
And join our community Colorado's road back to Red. You
just go to my my profile and you sign up
and we'll let you in and then we'll be on

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our way and we're going to build our army of
freedom loving Colorado's to take back our state. I think
it's about time to take a break. Jesse. This is
Heidi Ganal filling in for Dan Caples. We'll be right back. Hello,
this is Heidi Ganal filling in for Dan Caplis on
this New Year's Eve.

Speaker 4 (10:56):
Eve.

Speaker 3 (10:57):
I'll be in tomorrow as well with my special guess,
Congresswoman Lauren Bobert at four thirty five, but join us
for the whole time four to six tomorrow. We've got
a special guest coming up in just a few minutes,
Heather Booth, who's on the Elbert County School Board. But
before that, I wanted to kind of wrap up the
conversation about how you can get engaged and involved in

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what you can do as a citizen. And in Colorado,
we have a process that allows citizens to put forward
ballot initiatives and you need a certain percentage of the
vote depending on if it's a change to the Constitution
or not. But there's been a lot of talk about
ballot initiatives for twenty twenty five, twenty six and beyond

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about election integrity, and earlier we talked to Bob Cooper
about some of the problems we're facing. And obviously Donald Trump,
President Trump is looking to do some things on a
federal level. I believe he's talked about making election Day
a holiday and requiring photo ID and paper ballots. But
what does that mean for Colorado? What else do we

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need to have happened in Colorado for voters to trust
our process and trust that their vote matters. Well, We've
been collecting some information Colorado Institute for Election Integrity and
I've been working together to kind of put together a
list of potential things we could run a ballot initiative on.
And here's some of the things that people think are
really important. Number one is require a photo ID to

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register to vote and with the mail in ballots. I mean,
I'm not sure what that would look like if you
need to send in a copy of your picture, or
if when you go into register you've got to you've
got to bring your ID and making sure, it's a
government issued ID, not like a student ID or a
workout club ID whatever, But that's really important to voters.

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Another one is requiring proof of citizenship, not a self
affirmation to register to vote. So like the DMV right now,
when folks who aren't citizens go in, they have to
kind of say to on the form, I am not
a citizen, like they have to actually claim that instead
of the other way around, like are you a citizen?
So we need folks to require we need our elected

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officials to require proof of citizenship. And that's really that
goes towards the DMV. It goes to the election offices.
The clerks kind of say it's the Secretary of State.
The Secretary of State says it's other folks. They blame
it on the FEDS. It's like this circular firing squad
around that issue. So we've got to figure that out.

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The other thing is banning automatic voter registration at the DMV.
So instead of everybody getting registered, is an unaffiliated that
registered or gets a driver's license or an ID, require
the voter to request a ballot for a legitimate reason.
So if if you want a mail in ballot, if

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you want to get your ballot that way, request it
like we used to with absentee ballots. A lot of
folks enjoy going to vote in person, My husband does,
and going on election Day, and I think that's why
make election Day a holiday would actually be really popular.
In fact, a twenty twenty PU Research Center survey found
that seventy one percent of Americans favor making election Day

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a national holiday. Now, they just may want a day off,
but I believe that that would actually really go far
in helping people trust their vote again if they could
do in person voting and you had to request a
mail in ballot. If we were going to stick with those,
some other things, maybe some ballot security measures, serializing ballots

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or using anti counterfeit tracking methods like RFID chips or
embedded technology that would allow the ballot to be tracked
the entire time. That would deal with the US post
Office issue that Bob was talking about early, where the
post Office is supposed to invoice the county clerk for
all the undeliverable ballots they get back, so after the

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ballots are sent out, they get a bunch back that
are either going to the wrong address or something was
wrong and right now they're supposed to invoice the county
clerks for those ballots, and it seems like a lot
are getting lost in the shuffle. In fact, in Bob's
analysis of nine counties, there were over thirty thousand that
were just not accounted for. That's not okay. That doesn't

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go very far to ensuring trust in our system, in
our gold standard system. Also, I think voters would look
favorably and our kind of informal survey says this unlimiting
dropbox ballot returns to just election locations, not everywhere known
to mankind. We have our four hundred drop boxes across

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Colorado right now, and only during staffed hours, so not overnight,
because it seems like if someone was going to try
and pul shenanigans, which it is the law, you can
only turn in, only only turn in ten ballots the
whole election, you know, that would be a deterrent. So
the drop boxes would be only at election offices and

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only be only open during staffed hours. That would still
give people a lot of flexibility and ease and turning
in their ballot. Now, I don't think this one would fly.
I don't think Coloradins are going to go here, but
you could ban mail in balloting and just limit it
to absentee balloting with strict guidelines for getting absentee status.
I don't think that one would get put through, but

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let me know what you think. If you want to
call in or text call in is three ozho three
seven one three eight two five five seven one three
eight two five five, or you can text dan to
five seven seven three nine. Some other ideas banning all
electronic elections equipment and sophomore software and returning to in person,
hand voted and hand counted paper ballots at the precinct level.

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A lot of folks are like, that can happen, it
takes too long. Well, it can happen. It does happen
in other places, it used to happen here, and I
would suggest that that might go far in restoring trust,
whether we like it or not, a lot of people
don't trust the technology around our elections. And then finally

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banning ranked choice voting in any form at any level
in Colorado. That is going to come back. That was
just a little dip in the toe in the sand
with this. Try to get ranked choice voting in Colorado.
I absolutely think they're going to bring that ballot measure back,
and they've got a lot of financial resources behind them.
They're trying to do this across the country, and I

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think it's wrong for the people of Colorado. It's very confusing.
We've talked a lot about that on this show and
on Rocky Mountain Voice. But I truly believe we've got
to do everything we can to restore trust in our
election processes again, and I think President Trump's on board
with that. I think we in Colorado, my goodness, we

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have a lot to deal with with Jenna Griswold's mishandling
of the BIOS passwords and lack of kind of discipline
around the signature verification process, and what happened in Mason
County and the drop box issues. We've seen the US
Post Office audits that Bob talked about, the voter role issues.
The Public Legal Interest Foundation sued Jenni Griswold to get

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the list of dead voters that are on the voter rolls,
and that was due on November first, right before the election.
I called the Secretary of State's office right after that
and said, can I get that list too? It should
be public information. They said no, so I'm working with
PILF Public Legal Interest Foundation. Hopefully I got that at
Public Interest Legal Foundation to try and get that list,
but that should be available to the public. Why is

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she hiding it? Typical Jennick Griswold just doesn't do anything
to restore the trust of voters. And then we're also
trying to work with the DMV to find out more
about their process for preventing non citizens from being able
to vote, and whether that's a d MV issue or
a Secretary of State issue, or a county clerk issue.
We're not really clear on that yet. So there's some

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ideas for ballot initiatives. I'm not quite sure I have
the time or energy to put together something like that,
but there's some great people across Colorado that can and
we can do some poll testing and see what people
are really interested in doing out of those choices. And
we can also talk to our county commissioners and our
county clerk about making sure that some of these problems

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don't exist, and if they do, fixing them and have
their back, like if they're willing to go out on
a limb and push against the Secretary of State, then
have their back and speak highly of them in the
public and talk about how proud you are that they're
standing up against Johnny Griswold and her lack of transparency
and her lack of accountability on the bios passwords, while

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Tina Peters, the previous Mesa County clerk, sits in prison
for doing something similar for a long long time. All right,
Next up, we're going to talk about predictions in the
last little part of the show. But first we're going
to talk to Heather Booth on the Elbert County School
Board and she has some interesting things to say about

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a new lawsuit by the ACLU about some books that
were taken out of the library there. But what are
your I want you to think about it before tomorrow's
show and then you can text in, you can pop
me a message on Twitter, you can call in. Tomorrow
we'll have Congresswoman Bobert. We're going to ask her what
her twenty twenty five predictions are. You know, I think
it's going to be a great year. I think a

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lot of good things are going to happen. Things are
going to turn around. I like the idea of Doge
going in and cleaning house on the bureaucracies and making
sure that every penny is accounted for, our precious tax
dollars are accounted for and spent well. And also that
we put together a strong border and we remove violent
criminals from Colorado from America and hopefully make America safe again,

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because that's a huge issue and one that all Americans,
most Americans, majority of Americans agree on. This is Heidi
Ganal filling in for Dan Caplis. We'll be right back
after the break. Hello. Everyone, it's Heidi Ganal filling in
for Dan Caplis. This afternoon, I'm honored to have Heather Booth,
my friend who's also on the Albert County school Board,

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live with us to talk about an interesting issue about
books and the ACLU is not happy with you guys. Heather,
how you doing today?

Speaker 2 (21:10):
Good, Hidie, Thanks for having me on.

Speaker 3 (21:12):
Of course, you know, I got I got several emails
about this actually yesterday, and then you and I texted
back and forth a little bit about it. But this
is a this is a very hot topic and one
that could end up in the Supreme Court. Tell us
a little bit about what's going on and why the
ACLU is is, you know, coming after the board.

Speaker 2 (21:32):
Great. Thanks. Yeah. At the ACLUS teamed up with a
couple of parents and some other organizations in fighting US.
And we are a very small school district outside of Denver,
and we have about, I don't know, about twenty five
hundred students. We have four schools, and we came across

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nineteen books in our school that were very age inappropriate
and too. We went through a process to get input
from parents, community members, and the overwhelming majority said that
they did not want these books in our schools. So
we decided to remove them. And that was it. I mean,

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they lost it. I feel you lost it and decided
to sue us. And we're just shocked, we really are.
We're just very shocked by this.

Speaker 3 (22:25):
Heather, When did this happen?

Speaker 2 (22:27):
Like?

Speaker 3 (22:27):
When was the meeting where the decision was made to
remove the books.

Speaker 2 (22:31):
It was a couple of months ago, but it had
you know, there was a long process in this, and
we we went through several weeks of it and got
a lot of input, especially from parents who just didn't
want these books in their school. And we're big about
parental choice and parents have the right to decide these things.

Speaker 3 (22:55):
And you and I were talking earlier about how these
books are available in the public libraries right down the street, correct.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
Literally right down from three of our four schools. It
is right down the street. There is a public library
where you can find the majority, if not all, of
these books that you.

Speaker 3 (23:13):
Can get or obviously they can order them online if
they want their kids to read them. But a lot
of the parents may not even know that their kids
are reading these books or checking these books out. So
taking them out of the library, I mean, is I
as a parent, I'd totally support that. I elect you
because I trust you to make decisions like this on

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the school board. I find it odd whether that the
federal government requires you. Guys, don't I think you have
to have internet filters in place at your school to
prevent them from accessing inappropriate content. But what is present
in these books is okay?

Speaker 2 (23:50):
Right? And so exactly, And here's the thing. There are
lots in places place preventing adults from giving kids sexually
explicit materials. How is this any different? In fact, that
is how a lot of things are set up. You
can't go see an R rated movie unless you're eighteen.
You can't drive a car unless you're sixteen, You can't

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buy alcohol, join the military, and a couple other things
unless you're a certain age. So how is this any different?

Speaker 3 (24:17):
I don't know that it is. It doesn't feel different.
But why do you think the ACLU has picked Albert
County to use as a test case? And I mean,
this could go far, It could end up at the
Supreme Court, and they know that. I think that's why
they're doing it. But tell me more about what you
think their motives are, if you can speak to that
or not a little bit.

Speaker 2 (24:37):
I honestly think they think they can bully us into
putting the books back, honestly, and that is because we
are one of the lowest funded school districts in the
state of Colorado, and in fact, we just came out
of a financial exidency. Well we had to actually let
go of twelve staff members because we and have enough money.

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So I think they feel that if they come after
us and push hard enough, that we'll just raise up
our hands and say, okay, you win, let's put the
garbage back in the school. And uh, you know, we've
had a lot of people rally around us and say, no,
we're supporting you. This is not okay. We're just not
going to put these books back in and we're going

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to fight. Like hell.

Speaker 3 (25:25):
I want to talk. I want to talk about some
other things on the board. But first tell folks that
are listening how they can help and support you.

Speaker 5 (25:33):
We have a funding page set up and actually it's
through A five on and C three, So anything that
you support us with is UH tax deductible, which is awesome.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
And it's be it t that's some boy. It dot
l y forward slash support dash Elizabeth and again that's
me I dot l y forward slash support dash Elizabeth.
And all the money will go directly to helping us

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fite the ACLU and other outside entities that are suing
our districts for really frivolous reasons. This is ridiculous. I mean,
we ran on keeping schools safe not only from external
threats but also some inappropriate materials or influences within the school.

Speaker 3 (26:27):
Heather, what kind of other things have you done? How
long have you been on the school board?

Speaker 2 (26:31):
Now three years? I have been on OKA.

Speaker 3 (26:35):
And do you guys have a conservative majority on the board.

Speaker 5 (26:39):
We do?

Speaker 2 (26:40):
We do, Yes, we do.

Speaker 3 (26:41):
And what have you been able to get done or
not being able to get done? I know it's very difficult,
even if you do have a majority to get things done.
With my experience on the regent board, but tell me
a little bit more.

Speaker 2 (26:52):
Well, we've been able to get done quite a few things.

Speaker 5 (26:56):
Top my head.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
We put in a quo COVID resolution actually is in
the middle of another lawsuit because and it was just
a resolution. It wasn't even a policy. It was a
resolution stating that we wouldn't mandate vaccines or masks for
our kids who are teachers, that they could disciple themselves.
What a concept.

Speaker 3 (27:17):
Oh my gosh, and you got sued for that.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
Oh, we're currently being sued. Yes, you know, we have
a parental choice you know. One of the things we're
huge about parental choice, Uh, and decisions. Let let them decide.
We've just approved a classical charter school for our district

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and which was so huge, and we know that it
could take away some kids out of our schools, which
could cost us funding. But here's the thing we're we're
big about parents' choice. They get to choose what kind
of education they want their kids to half. And not

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everybody thinks the public schools is great. Not everybody thinks
through school is great. Not everybody thinks private school. Everybody
needs to deciph on themselves what they want to do.
And I mean, here's the deal. We are here to
educate kids, not raise kids. We've got to get back
to the basics of reading, writing, and math. Our school is,
not only as a state, but as a nation, keep falling.

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I think this is because we have lost sight at
the most important task, educating the kids. Let's get back
to direct teaching in a way from the garbage.

Speaker 3 (28:31):
Yeah, one of the things that I've been really reading
more and more about and as a region. It was
a big deal at the University of Colorado. But the
administrative blow and the increase in amounts of money and
the size of the administration in schools, so very little
of the increase in funding is going into the classroom.
It's going into hiring more administrators. Has that been the

(28:52):
case for you in albert Not so much.

Speaker 2 (28:56):
We're because we're so low funded. We really watch our dolls,
and you know, at this point we're having to let
go of teachers, so we you know, I don't see
that quite as much. So, so we're a little bit
better than the majority of public schools, So you do,
I do see that a lot in our neighboring districts.

(29:17):
And you know, we've done, We've got we've got a
new superintendent and he's been really trying to make that
dollar go a lot farther than it has ever been
able to and which is awesome, and go ahead.

Speaker 3 (29:33):
No, I was just going to say, the work you're
doing as a school board member is incredibly important. It's
one of the most difficult positions a to run a
race for, but be to actually make a difference when
you're actually in the seat, And I applaud all you're
doing and the work you're doing to push back against
this ACLU lawsuit. What happens next in the lawsuit.

Speaker 2 (29:56):
That we're waving on we haven't even honestly even to
get it literally just happened this last week, so really
not a whole lot. We're just kind of waiting to
see what the next steps are. And you know, all
I have to say to people is I don't think
risk sexual content is appropriate for children to read. And
I don't see how anybody could argue that point. Where

(30:19):
do we draw the line? That's my question, Where do
we draw the line? What if somebody wants to put
in Playboy or fifty shapes of gray in our schools?
Should we allow that? I think these books should be
decided between parents and to discuss with their kids. But
where is that line? And it just baffles me that

(30:40):
parents can't get to choose that. And I just really
think the problem is you can't take back a book
once it's read, Like, you can't take that back once
a child reads an inappropriate book. You can't. You can't
take that back hoe where you can put in place
guardrails to protect kids from not reading so that their
family wouldn't think it's appropriate. You know, our wonderful superintendent

(31:03):
once said, whatever values children come to school with, they
should go home with those things values, whether we agree
with them or not.

Speaker 3 (31:11):
That's wonderful. I love that quote. I'm going to use
that going forward. If only, if only that was happening
in all schools across America. Well, thank you, Heather for
all you're doing. We applaud you, and you know, hold firm.
We've got your back. I'll actually put out on X
the link so that people can find it on my
X account, which is heidikan all at Heidi Ganal and

(31:32):
share that and let's get you some funding so you
guys can fight back, but Heather, keep up the good
fight and we will get an update soon.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
So much tidy?

Speaker 3 (31:41):
All right, everyone, This is Heidi Ganal filling in for
Dan Kapls. We're going to take a quick break and
come back and wrap up with some predictions for twenty
twenty five. Please call in at three oh three seven
one three eight two five five or text your predictions
to five seven seven three nine with the first word Dan.
We'll see you in just a minute. Good afternoon, everyone,
It's Heidigan All filling in for Dan Kapliss our last

(32:04):
few minutes together. I thought we'd talk a little bit
about predictions to kind of tee up tomorrow's show, which
I want lots of feedback tomorrow. I need lots of
call ins and text messages and ping me tonight on
Twitter if you want to give me your predictions for
next year. Next year, it's only a couple days away.
I thought I would start with no stra Damas. Do

(32:25):
you guys remember that guy that we all read about
at some point in our in our education process. He
was a French astrologer and a physician from the fifteen hundreds,
and he's famous for predicting major historical events. Supposedly he
predicted eight off Hitler's rise to nine to eleven attacks
and even COVID. So I looked up real quick, like,
what are his predictions for twenty twenty five? Well, his

(32:46):
first prediction is an end to the Russia Ukraine War.
So his predictions for twenty twenty five say that they,
let's see, people are going to be exhausted from a
prolonged war and it's going to push both sides to
seek peace. Or it could it just be Trump pushing that.
I don't know, we'll see. The other thing it predicts
or he predicts way back then was plague and more

(33:09):
in England. He said it's going to be a really
tough year for England with cruel wars and the outbreak
of an ancient plague that could prove more devastating than
any enemy. Interesting and finally, this is the kicker. I'm
not sure that Trump can do anything about this. Maybe
Elon can. But an asteroid collision with Earth. He says
that asteroid is going to come dangerously close to Earth

(33:33):
in twenty twenty five. So interesting stuff.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
You know.

Speaker 3 (33:37):
On the political front, it's going to be it's going
to be a wild year because we've got some really
important school board races, obviously in city council races. We're
going to have a very crazy legislative session with the
Dems still holding a strong majority, and Jared Polis probably
wants everybody to stay kind of moderate insane because he

(34:00):
wants to run for president in twenty eight so he's
got a not veto too many bills and act like
he's keeping everybody Kumbaia and that this truly is the
blue model for the rest of the country. That's what
he wants people to think. I think he's underestimating the
upset by people in Colorado, but I think the legislative

(34:21):
session isn't going to hold back. The legislators on the
Democrat side are going to do all the crazy things
they do, and Polus is going to either have to
use his veto pen or go along with it not
and it's going to hurt him badly when he tries
to play moderate in the presidential race. He also it's
really important for Polis in the next year or two,
the last couple of years of his governorship to make

(34:42):
sure the Colorado stays very, very blue, because that's kind
of what he's riding this wave on right now. Is
we were one of the only states to not go
farther right and to go, you know, or at least
stay neutral or a little more blue. I don't know
how that ended up. Finally, I think it did go
a little bit red. But he's kind of banking his

(35:03):
reputation on being the guy that turned Colorado blue and
kept it blue throughout the Trump phenomenon of twenty twenty four,
so that's going to be interesting to see. Would also
be interesting to see who enters the governor's race on
the Democrat side for twenty twenty six. I think Joe
no Goose is probably one of their top candidates. He's

(35:24):
the congressman up in CD two, which is bolder and
some of the mountain areas, and he's one of the
most powerful people on the Democrat side in Congress, so
it'll be interesting to see if he leaves that is
willing to give that up to run for governor. And
then of course Jenna Griswold I think thinks that she
has a shot, which is a pity, oh my gosh,
after all she's pulled in the last few months. And

(35:45):
then Phil Wiser, I'm pretty sure that's Governor Poulis's guy,
But I don't know that exactly. It's just my gut feeling.
But Phil Wiser's been teeing up for quite a while
to run for governor, and so those three are probably
going to battle it out. Maybe Mike Johnston gets in
that race, and oh my goodness, he's made a disaster
out of Denver, Jesse, have you been down to downtown

(36:06):
Denver lately?

Speaker 4 (36:07):
I live in downtown Denver, SUS. Yes, every day. I'm
in the heart of it down there in thirtieth in Blake.
But yes, it's a disaster.

Speaker 3 (36:13):
How on earth is Mike Johnston going to make a
play for governor when Denver has gotten so much worse?
I mean, I know he has a lot of money
backing him, with Reid Huffman, the LinkedIn guy, and Mike Bloomberg,
and maybe they come around and help him repair his
reputation with just lots of dollars and lots of fuzzy
warm ads like polisted when I was running. But what's

(36:33):
your take on Denver? Are people upset yet? Is it
hurting enough that they want to vote differently.

Speaker 4 (36:39):
Because there's just too many transplants here that'll always vote
blue no matter what, and that's unfortunate.

Speaker 3 (36:45):
But it is.

Speaker 4 (36:47):
If it continues to get worse, and it's hard to
get imagine it getting much worse, maybe that'll change. We'll see.

Speaker 3 (36:53):
Golly, I hope it changes. I want to go back
to downtown Denver and have fun and go to Rockies
games and and just have a good time. And it's
just it's not very fun to go to downtown Denver anymore. Unfortunately,
an interesting thing's happening right now internationally Canada. It looks
like is going to replace Trudeau with a conservative leader.

(37:16):
That would be really good for everyone. And hopefully we
get the border up next year, that the border walls
up and they do a good job of firming things
up so that we can stop the influx of bad
guys and fentanyl across our border. And let's hope that
no Astronamis is right, that the Ukraine war is done

(37:36):
and that we don't have to worry about sending our
young men over there to help fight a war that
seems endless and unnecessary or unfortunate. I also think it'd
be interesting to see if by the end of next
year where it stands with Panama and Greenland is Greenland?
Another state is Panama too? Do we control the Panama Canal?

(37:57):
What do you think about that? Does he even keeping
an eye on that at all?

Speaker 4 (38:00):
I saw Trump said they better mind their p's and
q's or he's going to go down there and paying
them on get them all straightened out.

Speaker 3 (38:07):
Oh that's fun. I think it's going to be an
interesting year ahead. I'm so excited to be on with
you guys today dishing all this fun political stuff and
talking about football, election integrity and school board craziness. I
will be back tomorrow. Have a wonderful evening and happy
New Year's Eve eve. Talk to you soon. It's Heidik

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and All filling in for Dan Kaplas