January 14, 2025 • 34 mins
In the first hour of today's edition of the Dan Caplis Show, Dan looks at the recent stabbing spree that took place on the 16th Street Mall in Denver, and discusses how this outbreak of violent crime highlights the Democrats' failures to promote safety in Colorado.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Dan Caplis and welcome to today's online podcast
edition of The Dan Kaplis Show. Please be sure to
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American way is that government has some basic functions, right,
and it's grown way too large, way too out of control,
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but it has basic functions we can all agree on.
You know, government has that responsibility to take those basic
steps to keep people safe when only government can protect
people in certain ways, and then beyond that, it's up
to each of us.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Right.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
But but we have a Democratic party in Colorado which
seems absolutely determined, absolutely determined to make innocent citizens of
this state as unsafe as possible. And it continues day
after day afterday, and we'll talk about the latest examples today.
Glad you are here because we just don't curse the darkness,
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and there's plenty that curse. But we light candles and
we'll talk about some of those who are trying to
light right now. Eight five five four zero five A
two five five the number worst number for we hope
the best show on radio. No offense, Ryan, who was
a tremendous show two to four each day on six
thirty kitch a w in the Denver market. Did we
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talk about just like getting a three oh three number?
But we had five four zero five eight two five five.
Nobody can remember that, nobody can write it down. How
is that any different than the three oh three. I
don't understand, because everybody knows three oh three eight five
five could be eight sixty six eight eight eight, And
then somebody calls and they've got some sex line. No,
(01:39):
just give me a three to oh three. Okay, have
you ever done that? Have you ever like misdialed the
number and then hit one of those things?
Speaker 3 (01:46):
I've gotten some strange ones, but nothing like that can Lurida,
but we do, we have had in the past, we
currently have in the present a three tozho three.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Number that people can dial.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
We could switch back over to that if you want, Dan,
there's nothing preventing us from doing that.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Your name's on the show. I really think we should
let's talk about that, because it's eight five to five,
and I understand. Listen, we're blessed to be syndicated, so
you know we're spread around the place. But these days
nobody has to pay long distance for anything. Right that
that was like a Flintstone era thing, right, yeah, I
mean it was before you were born.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
So so, Kelly, the three to zho three number that
the Martino Show uses would go to the same lines.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Right, Uh, it does. It would be a great honor.
I should know that number two because I used to
do that, and that number is Kelly three oh three,
Martino three oh three. I don't think six. That's a
terrible number. No, no, well we'll do this off here,
but thank you, thank you for your billingness to improve
the process here. Okay, but you know, it's fascinating me
(02:44):
as a guy who's been in radio for somewhere around
three decades give or take, is just so many shows
now have shifted to text. I saw you getting a
little abuse on the text line. Do you take calls
or are you all texts?
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Now?
Speaker 1 (02:59):
That's a good question to put you on this I
take Is this a sore point?
Speaker 3 (03:04):
I'm about to explain, I'm sorry, I take only text,
and that's only because I've had some instability.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Shall we say in.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
The post that I represent for you? We have a
new hire. He's great, His named Zach Seekers.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Okay, wonderful.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
That can't do all five days, and so Jesse Thomas
during the winter months can do it.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
But then he's gonna have spring training. So it's a
screener issue.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
I think so, because you don't have a consistency on
that front.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Yeah, and listen, that is a real challenge. I mean Ryan,
if you ever met Ryan in person, you know, people
ask about the anatomical anomaly, right, I mean, it's obvious,
it's it's a bragging point for you. But Ryan is
like an octopus. He has how many arms do you have?
He has five arms. He can answer the phones, he
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can do this, he can do that. Now we're blessed
with Kelly as a call screener. I was you, he
just said, I was getting to you. He said, I'm
just saying, Kelly, on those rare days when you're off
on a beach or something, you know, Ryan's just doing
it all. It's crazy.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Really, I am very thankful for Kelly's presence here as everyone.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
It makes the trains run on time. Just the aura
two aura level of production.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Yeah, did you see your boots today?
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Holy crap? I did? Yeah, Wow, Wow, Holy cow. I
can't tell you last time I saw a pair like that.
Oh yeah, really really impressive. Somebody texted me three h
three someone three eight two five five. See, I remember
that number rolls off the tongue because I've probably given
that for one hundred years, like all eight years Craig
and I did the show together. Three three someone three
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eight two five five. That's it. That's the one. Yeah, right, okay,
that's a good number. Well, all right, I'm going to
start doing yeah, and that I will remember because I
used it for many many and then one yeah, threeal
three someone three eight two five five and uh, all right,
we got that done. Wow. Speaking of vibes, the first
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of the Trump nominees who will be confirmed Pete heg Satz,
And I'm glad they had him go first, right, because
Trump has all this political capital, goodwill, everything else that
he's hard earned, and he has a right to have
the people he wants unless they're just obviously completely unqualified,
and Pete Hagseeth is not that. So yeah, he's going
to be confirmed. But we wanted to get you a
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little bit of sound from that, because the left now
scream therapy is expensive unless you're a remember of the Senate,
and then you get to do it on the taxpayer's
dime in these hearings. But it comes in all forms.
Why don't we kick this one off with Senator Kristin
Jillibrand of New York. She's still in the Senate.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
She just want again.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Oh my goodness, the.
Speaker 5 (05:38):
Women you have denigrated. You have also denigrated members of
the LGBTQ community. Did you know that when donas don't
tell was in place, we lost so many crucial personnel,
over one thousand in mission critical areas.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
We lost ten percent of all our foreign.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
Language speakers because of a political policy. You said in
your statement you don't want in the DoD Everything you've
said in these public statements is politics. I don't want women.
I don't want moms.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
What's wrong with a mom?
Speaker 5 (06:07):
By the way, once you have babies, you therefore are
no longer able to be lethal. I mean, you're basically
saying women after they have children can't ever serve in
the military in a combat role. It's a silly thing
to say.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
It's a silly thing to say. Beneath the physician that you.
Speaker 5 (06:21):
Are aspiring to to detagrate LGBTQ service members is a mistake.
If you are a sharpshooter, you're as lethal regardless of
what your gender identity is, regardless.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Of who you love.
Speaker 5 (06:32):
So please know this to be a true statement.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Yeah, get it all out, Kristen, better get it all
out right now. And it's not going to affect pe.
Do you see he's going to be confirmed eight five
five for zero five eight two five five the number
tex d an five seven, seven through nine. You know
he's in great shape when you know the lead headline
because it's what six oh five Eastern when our show
starts here in the Mountain time zone that CNN has
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the best they have in their prime time is seets
grilled about shifting position on women.
Speaker 6 (07:03):
In combat when that's the best they got. You know,
you're getting confirmed. And there's one thing and I watched
almost as an entire hearing. I thought it fascinating then
for many reasons, one of what you just heard, unfortunately
kristin Gilibrand. But there are various nuanced positions within combat
meaning women in combat, meaning front lines, reinforcement level. There's
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some people that are in combat technically, but again it's
not on the front lines as kind of a backing role.
So I think it's how you define it.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
And Pete Hegg set the point he was making was
that he felt standards were being lowered in order to
accommodate higher numbers of female enlisted members. And I think
he's right on that point, and this is something that
I think, to her credit, Senator Joni Ernst was able
to clarify in her time with Petex.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Yes, and when am I going to get that ring
in my nose? So you can kind of lead me around?
But I do appreciate it, because leave it or not,
I was going to play that bight next.
Speaker 7 (08:02):
No, it is incredibly important that I stress, and I
hope that, if confirmed, you continue to stress that every
man and woman has opportunity to serve their country and
uniform and do so at any level as long as
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they are meeting the standards that are set forward. And
we talked about that in my office. I do believe
in high standards.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Now, I was.
Speaker 7 (08:34):
Denied the opportunity to serve in any combat role because
I have a lot of gray hair, and the policy
has changed since then. Okay, so I've been around for
quite a while.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Wait a sec. Because she's talking about the capitalist rule, right,
and until this nation adopts it. It is a mega
blind spot. And that rule is it's all about the
stand and you do not at this point, you do
not keep people out of combat roles because of the
number on their driver's license. You know, well, you don't
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keep out of combat roles because of their age. If
somebody can meet the standards, because we all know how
dramatically things have changed. You got a lot of guys,
You got a lot of guys right now in their fifties,
lord knows, but some in their sixties, you know, who
have every physical capability and they also have the wisdom
of the years, etc. And they want to go serve,
and they want to go serve in combat roles. It's
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a blind spot for this country not to permit it.
And then when it comes and we'll talk when we
come back, as we play more of this excess sound
about women in combat? What I'd like to do, because
I've never served, I would love to hear. I would
love to hear from people who have served, you know, male, female,
what you think about women in these combat positions? Because
me just sitting here, it's easy to say, and I
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do believe it's all about the standard but if you've
been there, if you've been in these combat situations, maybe
most recently in Iraq, if a stand whatever is a
practical matter, can that work out. I'm just talking about
logistically mechanically. I don't think anybody does that. Women would
be superb the right woman right, just like the right
guy in a combat role. But as a practical logistical matter,
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can it work in the field? Can it work on
the battlefield? You're on the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
And now back to the Dan Kaplass Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Just singing at the inauguration. She's singing America the Beautiful.
I believe that's wonderful. Can you imagine how good that's
going to be. It's gonna be phenomenal. I'm so glad she's
doing it.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
But she is getting some backlash from fans and trolls
on Instagram and the socials.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
No, no, no, no, no, some trolls. Maybe she wouldn't get
any backlash from any true fan. But at this point,
isn't this fun to watch? Ryan Yes said that there
is so, but there's so much less of it now,
right because the dynamics so different with Trump taking off now,
how everything he overcame the way he responded to the
assassination attempt. Everything else. There is so much less of
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this hateful, blind resistance, not because all of a sudden
all those people have become good and pure and everything else,
but because they know at this point they've lost, and
the American people chose Trump, and they risk their own
power if they come out now and they try to
do the same hateful stuff toward him. There's still some pockets,
but he could you do me a favorite during one
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of the breaks? I mean sure, For those who haven't
heard a lot of Carrie Underwood, she has almost supernatural
abilities and it often comes out, I guess, maybe appropriately
when she's singing religious stuff. So maybe a little how
great Thou Art Sure or something like that, just played,
Jesus take the whey on it? That's all yeh. But
I'm talking about range. Oh yeah, you're the music guy.
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I'm just a lay person who knows what I like here.
Hey on American Idol? Yeah, give him a ten.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
I know the one you're talking about, and it's when
you were attending one of her shows. It was in Vegas, right,
oh yeah, And I'll try to track something representative down
along those lines. Just an interesting kind of pop culture
not I was talking about this on my program Dan
with regard to Carrie Underwood. John Rich, a big and
rich who's a fervent Trump supporter and one of us
and quotes he said, Carrie Underwood's just the tip of
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the iceberg, and that he hopes a lot more people
will come right out in not the Trump haters, but
the ones that might have been agnostic, like I don't
want to get involved, I don't want to support Trump,
and I don't want to vocalize that.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
But the more of those that come.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Out, like John Rich has and said, now, look I
like President Trump, or I am proud that he's my president,
or I admire him for going through an assassination attempt
and all these other things. The more of those that
come forward in John Rich's mind, and I agree with this,
the less there's going to be this vitriol and these
people carping at Trump with Trump's arrangement syndrome, because it's
going to be normalized to use the the lef's word
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that Donald Trump is not the demon the left portrays.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Him to be. And I'm really glad you used that word,
because yeah, there's going to be more of that, right,
and with more, and Trump's already so successful. I mean,
look at if, in fact this deal comes through to
free the hostages. That was Trump who got that deal
even before taking office. Right. But you're right, the more
people come forward on the positive side, the less they'll
be of the other. But the less there's going to
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be of the other anyway, because it's not working for
them and they're doing it in their own best interests.
All I'm saying is it all creates, it all helps
create this moment in America. We haven't had one like it,
at least in my young lifetime, where there's this opportunity
for the country to become significantly less polarized. And then,
as Trump has said, unify around success because nothing's guaranteed,
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but all indications are there's going to be a lot
more success on multiple fronts than America's had in quite
a while now. Eight five five four zero five eight
two five five. So bottom line is Trump has normalized himself.
Trump has normalized himself through his success, normalized himself by
overcoming what appeared to be to many almost impossible hurdles.
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I mean, we predicted here he would win for the
reasons we predicted he did. But then the he handled
that assassination attempt in Butler, after being shot, so many
other things, he has normalized himself and he's taken it
one step further. Not to get all philosophical, he's gone
beyond normalizing himself. He has now at this point turned
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himself into an almost mythical figure. And if the success
that I expect to happen happens, then then yeah, it
is going to be. It's almost in dimensions a biblical
type story when he's done with that term eight f
five zero five A two five five or plan A
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lot of hegsas sound today, but we have a lot
to do locally because and we were on it yesterday,
you know, as it was unfolding real time, Denver and
Denver becoming so very dangerous and almost by design, I mean,
another big step taken by Denversity Council to expand this
needle exchange program will lead not the next segment, because
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George Brockler will join us in the next segment this
with him and play the full story after that. But then,
of course this you have this serial killer loose on
the mall because remember once he stabbed three people in
an hour and slit the throat of a flight attendant.
It was clear he intended to kill all three. So
at that point, you know, you have a serial killer
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loose on the mall, and one thing you know is
that that killer is going to kill again, and there's
every reason to believe that killer is going to kill again,
and that they're going to kill on the mall. So
the only way to protect people at that point is
a five alarm fire warning, because you could flood that
mall with officers. You could have every Denver police officer
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on that mall, and you know, when you're dealing with
a psycho serial killer that you're not going to be
able to stop them. And because serial killer like that,
how's the cop going to stop it? You flood the
entire mall with cops and he just walks there. Normal
looking guy, you know, stone or type, but normal looking
guy walks onto the mall and he has that big
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old butcher knife under his coat. Every single officer in
Denver could be on the mall and you're not going
to be able to stop him because he is a
psychoone he's determined to kill. So you know, at that
point is the Mayor of Denver that the only way
the minute you find out about this is Mary of Denver,
you know, the only way you can protect the people
of Denver and beyond is to warn them. Five Allied fire.
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We got a psycho serial killer targeting the mall. Every
citizen of this nation deserve that warning. Deserve that warning
as a matter of basic human decency, as a matter
of public responsibility, because that's the only way you can
protect him. And that warning did not come. And we're
going to get to the bottom of that, and I'll
explain the steps we're taking to get to the bottom
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of it, because I believe I can't prove it right now,
but logic tells you it's true, and we're taking all
the steps and we need to get the evidence to
prove it. Somebody made that decision that we are not
going to do that big warning, and they had to
know it's the only way to protect the people, but
they decided not to protect the people in the interest
of what was it? Was it Mike Johnston's political interest.
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Just take your chances because it would hurt Mike Johnston,
because it would hurt business. Whatever it was. The people
weren't warned somebody had to make that decision. It would
be even worse if nobody had made the decision right now.
It's disqualifying. If it is true he did that, he
should leave office right now. But it would be even
worse if he didn't make the decision. It would be
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even worse. If he's so out of the loop he
wasn't informed, or that he was informed and it never
occurred to him to warn the people, that would be
even worse. But one way or the other, we have
got the worst kind of scandal. Because you have the
big scandals involving money, and they're really bad. That's a
big deal. A lot of people in jail for those things,
except politicians. And then you have the worst kind of scandal,
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which is the scandals that get people killed, and this
is one of them. Because every person in America who
could have even thought of coming to the mall, certainly
every person in Denver and Colorado should have been warned
we've got a psycho serial killer loose on the mall,
and then they can make their own decision whether to
go down there.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Now.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
I don't know the identity d yet run of that
last victim who was murdered by the serial killer, No,
the mall serial killer. And so I don't know the backstory,
but it may well be we'll find out that this
victim would not have gone there if those warnings admissioned.
Maybe they lived down there and they would have been
there anyway, but maybe they would have stayed inside. Who's
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going to go down there? If you get the kind
of warning you should have that we've got a psycho
serial killer loose on the mall. People deserve that warning.
Somebody made the decision not to give it. We're going
to find out who you're on the Dan.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
Capital you're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 8 (18:57):
Form rank senator from the political class on day one
on January twentieth, when President Trump is sworn in, he
will issue a new set of lawful orders, and the
leadership of our services will have an opportunity to follow
those lawful orders or not. Those lawful orders will not
be based on politics. They will be based on readiness, accountability, standards,
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and lethality. That is the process by which leaders will
be judged. And accountability is coming because everybody in this
room knows.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
If you're a rifleman and you lose.
Speaker 8 (19:28):
Your rifle they're throwing the book at you.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
But if you're a.
Speaker 8 (19:33):
General who loses a war, you get a promotion.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Wow. Wow. Yeah. So the beauty of this is Hegsa's
not only going to be confirmed, but he's going to
come into office in a stronger position than it looked
like you would even a couple of weeks ago. Hey,
let's go to the VIP line. This is exciting stuff.
It's not often we get a whole new judicial district,
but Douglas County now, which used to be part of
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the eighteenth, combined with the REPO and others, it is
now its own judicial district. And so George Brockler joins us, says,
the first elected DA of the twenty third right, because
we've never had a twenty third before. How does it feel,
my friend?
Speaker 2 (20:16):
It feels good to finally be in that position, and
a good friend of ours, I think, is equally relieved
to finally have finished up with his portion of that process.
But it's exciting, it feels daunting. I now know that
every small or big horrible thing that happens in this
jurisdiction is now gonna at some point land on my
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desk in a way that it didn't before.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
So I'm ready.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
I got a great team, so excited. John's efforts to
put me in the best position to win have been wonderful.
Miss I'm gonna miss.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
That guy, referring to John Kellner, obviously a good friend
and looking forward to trying a bunch of cases with John.
And yeah, so John has on a great job. But
now that the twenty thirty is the twenty third in
and of itself, and I've got to think, George, that
everything you've done in your whole life prepares you for this.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
In some weird ways, it has. I mean, I never
expected I would get to be a prosecutor again after
I left the eighteenth and then this new judicial district
sort of started to come to life, and I was
at a place where I thought, I can still do
something here, I can make a difference. And nobody, nobody
alive has ever started a brand new DA's office, and
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certainly not in these times where it's challenging. And I
feel incredibly blessed. But I also feel like if there
was someone more qualified to do this job, I'd yield
it to them. But I just don't know who that is, well.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Right, and I think in so many different ways. Obviously
you probably didn't see any of the heccess stuff today,
but your own military career, your stant successful stan very
successful stint in the eighteenth and then you know Douglas
count itself. Because I've got to tell you, I'm privileged
to try cases a lot of places in this state,
and I love them all. Douglas County is one of
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my favorites. It's it's just as you know that, the
county itself, the courthouse, everything about it. I just think,
like John before you, you're a perfect fit for it.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
You know what's interesting about Douglas is it's very conservative.
It definitely shows some signs of bluing, especially in highlands
ranch in like the House District forty three area. But
it's not a place that most civil attorneys, PLANEFF attorneys
want to come. As you know, most civil attorneys feel
like I'm going I'm going to get a better jury
and in Denver or maybe in Boulder Adams or something
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like that. But you've proven time and again when you
come down here that if if you can talk to smart, educated,
you know, valued principled people, you can get great results
for your clients. These are just great neighbors to have.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
You know wonderful people, and I know you've had the
same experience. One of my great regrets is that we
have an at the chance to try a case together,
because I know what a great trial lawyer you are.
But every trial lawyer knows everybody who's served on a
jury knows a fundamental truth. All jurors are smart everywhere.
It doesn't matter if they have one year education fifty
years education. They're all smart everywhere, and it's just a
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matter of being able to go into wherever you are
and just tell the true story in an effective way there,
which you have always been wonderful at. So will you
be in I already know the answer to this question
without you telling me, But will you be in the
courtroom in Douglas?
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Well? Yeah, So I reached out to my Chief of
County court that's all the misdemeanors to uys and all that,
because I thought there'd be a better answer to this.
But I said, hey, grab me up something in week one.
I want to be in the court right trying the case.
Was one of these junior guys, kind of like way
back in the day when Bob Er and I did that. Yeah,
remember that now? Do.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
We talk about it all the time.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
I push it through that. Yeah, so I tried that
turns out we had nothing this week. Next week, I'm
hopeful I put myself on a shaken baby case in
February and then their hicular homicide that has yet to
be set. But my intention is to lead from the front.
I'm not going to Obama this thing.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
See that that is wonderful. George Brockler obviously our guest,
the very first district attorney of the newly created twenty
third And that's great, and you're going to be more fulfilled,
the people of the county be well served because it's
hard to imagine a better trial er than you. And
that's just great for everybody, right because everybody listening knows,
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whether they do that for a job or not, that
trial is hard work. Trial's tough, and so you know,
when you lead by example like that, it's going to
help the whole office.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
I hope, so, but I also hope, and I don't
want people to take this the wrong way, But I
also hope, and I said this in my comments today.
Fun right, Like, we do have cases where you're dealing
with the worst of the worst humanity, but you also
have cases where you get exposed to some of the
best of humanity and you happen to represent the Castillo's
and their son is one of the examples of when
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you get to see the best of humans. But in
between there are a lot of opportunities to do great
work for the victims in the community but still have fun.
And I love trial because as intense as it is,
every trial and you know that leads to some kind
of crazy story that you end up telling with friends
over at barbecue and a beer or something and they're like,
no way, and you're like, yeah way. Every time you know.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Well, and it's kind of and everybody listening, in their
own life and their own chosen paths, has whatever it
is that gives them that maximum joy and fulfillment, and
that can be found in the midst of all these
tragedies when you feel like you've really been able to
do justice for somebody going through something horrible. And so
in a DA's office, obviously you have that opportunity all
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the time, but talk's cheap. You got to do the work,
You got to go in, you got to try the case,
and you know you have a history of doing that,
like John before you, and I have no doubt your
team is going to follow your lead. And from what
I've been hearing from John, You've got a lot of
great people.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
We kind of post a lot of the best and
the brightest from Arapa Ho. I know John was regretful
about that at the time. I think he's given up
on that now. But I was very fortunate. And a
lot of this has to do with Douglas County being
so favorable and so supportive and putting together the best
team possible. He brought up doing great things. One of
the most moving things about today, and it was packed
(26:20):
in the jury commissioners room in Douglas Canton. I was
given some comments. Is the number of victims from past cases,
from Aurora to Stem to Cody Donahue, the troop of
that got killed on the overn that came to this thing. Wow,
and came up to me and said, I'm so proud
of you, thank you. I'll never forget what you did
(26:41):
for me, And I remember I didn't. You know, you
get overwhelmed. And I imagine even clients that you had
years later when they reached back out and say thank
you for what you've done. And you think I love
this job, man, I love the opportunity to just bring
just a little bit of comfort to these people.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Well, and that's obviously a great testament you because you
know they're going through the absolute worst moment in their
lives or anybody's life. You know, when when you're involved
in helping him in every way you can. So yeah,
and I've always said I think, short of President of
the United States, the most important vote anybody ever casts
is for their local district attorney. And because you talk
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about real impact on your life, positive or negative, it's
the quality of that DA. So people on really good
hands with you, my friend and I. I hope we
can keep getting you on air. I hope you can
come in and do the show occasionally, though I know
you're going to be pretty slammed.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Happy to do it. And please just keep a seat
warm for me for whether it's four or eight years,
I'm going to be an intern again.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Oh man, I'd tell you I would love to try
a case with you, and I have dreamed also of
trying cases with John and we're going to have him
on tomorrow and talk about that in some more detail.
But hey man, congrats on it all. Full disclosure. I
supported George's campaign and wrote whatever small check they allow
you to, right, but best money I could spend, because
you are going to get it done, my friend, and
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the best of luck with it.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Thanks sir, Hi to Kelly and Ryan too.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
I will do that. Take care of that is George Brockler.
So you know, Douglas has been very fortunate. They've had
a string of really good das through the eighteenth and
George through the eighteenth, followed by John Brockler. John Brockler,
we'll have laugh about that tomorrow. John Kellner following George
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who then was the DA for Douglas and had great
success Era and now George, and man, that is just
so critical in so many ways. You want to exhibit
a Hey, look at Denver, right, the great people of
Denver deserve a lot better than they've had with with
Beth McCann and my humble opinion and all that stuff.
They're about to get a DA who I think is
going to do a real good job, and he's an
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elected Democrat. This is not a party thing necessarily, because
you have those elected das who are Democrats, who, in
my opinion, then let politics influence and political philosophy, you know,
influence prosecutorial decisions, and then all of a sudden you
have criminals running wild in the communities in more danger
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my humble opinion, that's what happened with Beth McCann. Then
all of a sudden, your police officers don't have what
they need, that people don't have what they need. Criminals
figure out that hey, they can get off easy in
Denver often, and then you have elected Democrats who don't
go that political route, who just stand up, take on
that sacred responsibility and do a great job. I think
the next Denver DA is going to do that. We'll
(29:34):
find out together. You're on the Dan Capla Show.
Speaker 4 (29:43):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Literally, and that must be what the angels sound like.
Have you ever thought about that in a turn to
be religious or anything. Have you ever thought about what
goes on up there, what Helen's really like, what it
looks like, and you know, what goes on down there?
I mean, yeah, and we're seeing a lot of what
goes on down there up here, but we see a
lot of what goes on up there down here too.
So that's deep. Well, that's deep.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
There's a working theory Dan that actually we souls here
on this planet Earth. This is purgatory. This is the
in between stage. I'm just saying there are people that believe.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
That, not me, because the way I look at it
is particularly this is we're a lot of rewinners, right,
We're born in America. I mean, this is in heaven.
This isn't our home, This isn't our destination, right, you know,
but this is pretty awesome. I mean, we're we are
created for this opportunity, and yeah, so I think this
is pretty pretty awesome. But yeah, not our destination. I
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think in our destination depends on what we do here there.
It is yeah, five five four zero five eight two
five five The number takes d a N five seven
seventh three nine. And I respect the fact that that
a lot of people disagree with that. That's just what
I have and to believe, Texters, and I've got to
I've got to tell you this. And I know it
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doesn't show in the way I always do things, but
it's not just what I believe. It's what I know,
which is part of what scares me, right, because I'm
really blessed. Part of it is my parents, some life
experiences everything else. But I just I just know that
is true. So you would think I would do some
things better, but yeah, it's just you just know it's true.
(31:32):
And so eight five five or zero five A two
five five text d a N five seven seven three nine.
And it really does make me wonder, you know, it
makes me wonder about a guy like Joe Biden, right
because I look at myself and I feel very, very
blessed to have been raised by my parents and to uh,
you know, be raised in the Catholic faith and all
(31:54):
of that. Not to in any way, shape or form
reflect on anybody else's faith, you know, it's but I
just feels so fortunate that way. And I sit here
and I know what an imperfect Catholic I am. I'm
not proud of that. I'm working on it. I'm a
work in progress. But then you look at a guy
like Joe Biden who comes out and to get votes
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and everything else. I'm a devout Catholic, devout Catholic, self
described devout Catholic, and then uses all these gifts God
gave him in the position that he's put in then
to do everything he possibly can to work against the
foundational teaching of the Catholic Church. And you just wonder,
because do you ever worry do you ever worry about
like Judgment Day? Yeah, okay, no, I don't mean sure.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
It's like studying for a test.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
And then you're like, I don't know, maybe yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
The only thing I can be sure of is I'm
not sure, and I mean, I know it's coming, but
I want more mercy than justice. I'm sure don't want
justice because justice means I get what's due to me.
I don't want what's due to me. I want mercy.
But you think about that Judgment Day. And I've always
wondered about these politicians that run around saying I'm Catholic,
vote for me, and then their most fervent commitment is
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to spreading the mass killing of God's creation before they're born.
And I just wonder do they have no thought of
Judgment Day? Because when you get to the abortion issue,
and I've got some other stuff to talk about, believe
it or not, But when you get to the abortion issue,
you can completely separate out religious beliefs, and at that
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point abortion is still as obviously wrong for completely non
religious reasons. You just start with the basic medicine and
basic morality and basic right and wrong. But for the
people who choose to get elected to office by saying
I'm a Catholic, I'm a Catholic, I'm a Catholic, or
I'm a Christian, I'm a Christian, I'm a Christian. Then
they go do the exact opposite with the power people
(33:46):
give them. Do they ever even think about judgment day?
You think you think Biden thinks about that now as
he gets closer and closer and listen, we're all day
to day, we could all be minutes away. But do
you think he thinks about that? I don't think he
thinks about these days. Well, I think we just had
one confirm, one question confirmed. And I had always been
(34:08):
concerned that Michelle Obama might run for president against President Trump,
and I'm glad that she did not. I think that
if she had run and run right, she would have
by far been the toughest to beat. Do I think
that after Butler, that Trump, the tremendous way he handled that, etc.
Would have beat her. I think he probably would have,
But she would have been infinitely tougher than anybody else
(34:29):
if she ran right. But I think the hope that
she would not run because she couldn't stomach losing to
Donald Trump, or even the possibility she'd lose to Trump.
Was just confirmed because one of the real low class
moves politically speaking in a long time. She's not going
to go to the inauguration that was just announced, and
(34:50):
so I think that confirms the earlier theory and really
does not reflect well on her. You're on the Dan
Kapla Show.
This is Dan Caplis and welcome to today's online podcast
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single day on your favorite podcast platform. Yeah, and the
American way is that government has some basic functions, right,
and it's grown way too large, way too out of control,
(00:21):
but it has basic functions we can all agree on.
You know, government has that responsibility to take those basic
steps to keep people safe when only government can protect
people in certain ways, and then beyond that, it's up
to each of us.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Right.
Speaker 1 (00:36):
But but we have a Democratic party in Colorado which
seems absolutely determined, absolutely determined to make innocent citizens of
this state as unsafe as possible. And it continues day
after day afterday, and we'll talk about the latest examples today.
Glad you are here because we just don't curse the darkness,
(00:59):
and there's plenty that curse. But we light candles and
we'll talk about some of those who are trying to
light right now. Eight five five four zero five A
two five five the number worst number for we hope
the best show on radio. No offense, Ryan, who was
a tremendous show two to four each day on six
thirty kitch a w in the Denver market. Did we
(01:19):
talk about just like getting a three oh three number?
But we had five four zero five eight two five five.
Nobody can remember that, nobody can write it down. How
is that any different than the three oh three. I
don't understand, because everybody knows three oh three eight five
five could be eight sixty six eight eight eight, And
then somebody calls and they've got some sex line. No,
(01:39):
just give me a three to oh three. Okay, have
you ever done that? Have you ever like misdialed the
number and then hit one of those things?
Speaker 3 (01:46):
I've gotten some strange ones, but nothing like that can Lurida,
but we do, we have had in the past, we
currently have in the present a three tozho three.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Number that people can dial.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
We could switch back over to that if you want, Dan,
there's nothing preventing us from doing that.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Your name's on the show. I really think we should
let's talk about that, because it's eight five to five,
and I understand. Listen, we're blessed to be syndicated, so
you know we're spread around the place. But these days
nobody has to pay long distance for anything. Right that
that was like a Flintstone era thing, right, yeah, I
mean it was before you were born.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
So so, Kelly, the three to zho three number that
the Martino Show uses would go to the same lines.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Right, Uh, it does. It would be a great honor.
I should know that number two because I used to
do that, and that number is Kelly three oh three,
Martino three oh three. I don't think six. That's a
terrible number. No, no, well we'll do this off here,
but thank you, thank you for your billingness to improve
the process here. Okay, but you know, it's fascinating me
(02:44):
as a guy who's been in radio for somewhere around
three decades give or take, is just so many shows
now have shifted to text. I saw you getting a
little abuse on the text line. Do you take calls
or are you all texts?
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Now?
Speaker 1 (02:59):
That's a good question to put you on this I
take Is this a sore point?
Speaker 3 (03:04):
I'm about to explain, I'm sorry, I take only text,
and that's only because I've had some instability.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Shall we say in.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
The post that I represent for you? We have a
new hire. He's great, His named Zach Seekers.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Okay, wonderful.
Speaker 3 (03:18):
That can't do all five days, and so Jesse Thomas
during the winter months can do it.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
But then he's gonna have spring training. So it's a
screener issue.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
I think so, because you don't have a consistency on
that front.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Yeah, and listen, that is a real challenge. I mean Ryan,
if you ever met Ryan in person, you know, people
ask about the anatomical anomaly, right, I mean, it's obvious,
it's it's a bragging point for you. But Ryan is
like an octopus. He has how many arms do you have?
He has five arms. He can answer the phones, he
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can do this, he can do that. Now we're blessed
with Kelly as a call screener. I was you, he
just said, I was getting to you. He said, I'm
just saying, Kelly, on those rare days when you're off
on a beach or something, you know, Ryan's just doing
it all. It's crazy.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Really, I am very thankful for Kelly's presence here as everyone.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
It makes the trains run on time. Just the aura
two aura level of production.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
Yeah, did you see your boots today?
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Holy crap? I did? Yeah, Wow, Wow, Holy cow. I
can't tell you last time I saw a pair like that.
Oh yeah, really really impressive. Somebody texted me three h
three someone three eight two five five. See, I remember
that number rolls off the tongue because I've probably given
that for one hundred years, like all eight years Craig
and I did the show together. Three three someone three
(04:33):
eight two five five. That's it. That's the one. Yeah, right, okay,
that's a good number. Well, all right, I'm going to
start doing yeah, and that I will remember because I
used it for many many and then one yeah, threeal
three someone three eight two five five and uh, all right,
we got that done. Wow. Speaking of vibes, the first
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of the Trump nominees who will be confirmed Pete heg Satz,
And I'm glad they had him go first, right, because
Trump has all this political capital, goodwill, everything else that
he's hard earned, and he has a right to have
the people he wants unless they're just obviously completely unqualified,
and Pete Hagseeth is not that. So yeah, he's going
to be confirmed. But we wanted to get you a
(05:15):
little bit of sound from that, because the left now
scream therapy is expensive unless you're a remember of the Senate,
and then you get to do it on the taxpayer's
dime in these hearings. But it comes in all forms.
Why don't we kick this one off with Senator Kristin
Jillibrand of New York. She's still in the Senate.
Speaker 4 (05:36):
She just want again.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Oh my goodness, the.
Speaker 5 (05:38):
Women you have denigrated. You have also denigrated members of
the LGBTQ community. Did you know that when donas don't
tell was in place, we lost so many crucial personnel,
over one thousand in mission critical areas.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
We lost ten percent of all our foreign.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
Language speakers because of a political policy. You said in
your statement you don't want in the DoD Everything you've
said in these public statements is politics. I don't want women.
I don't want moms.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
What's wrong with a mom?
Speaker 5 (06:07):
By the way, once you have babies, you therefore are
no longer able to be lethal. I mean, you're basically
saying women after they have children can't ever serve in
the military in a combat role. It's a silly thing
to say.
Speaker 1 (06:18):
It's a silly thing to say. Beneath the physician that you.
Speaker 5 (06:21):
Are aspiring to to detagrate LGBTQ service members is a mistake.
If you are a sharpshooter, you're as lethal regardless of
what your gender identity is, regardless.
Speaker 1 (06:31):
Of who you love.
Speaker 5 (06:32):
So please know this to be a true statement.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Yeah, get it all out, Kristen, better get it all
out right now. And it's not going to affect pe.
Do you see he's going to be confirmed eight five
five for zero five eight two five five the number
tex d an five seven, seven through nine. You know
he's in great shape when you know the lead headline
because it's what six oh five Eastern when our show
starts here in the Mountain time zone that CNN has
(06:57):
the best they have in their prime time is seets
grilled about shifting position on women.
Speaker 6 (07:03):
In combat when that's the best they got. You know,
you're getting confirmed. And there's one thing and I watched
almost as an entire hearing. I thought it fascinating then
for many reasons, one of what you just heard, unfortunately
kristin Gilibrand. But there are various nuanced positions within combat
meaning women in combat, meaning front lines, reinforcement level. There's
(07:25):
some people that are in combat technically, but again it's
not on the front lines as kind of a backing role.
So I think it's how you define it.
Speaker 3 (07:33):
And Pete Hegg set the point he was making was
that he felt standards were being lowered in order to
accommodate higher numbers of female enlisted members. And I think
he's right on that point, and this is something that
I think, to her credit, Senator Joni Ernst was able
to clarify in her time with Petex.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
Yes, and when am I going to get that ring
in my nose? So you can kind of lead me around?
But I do appreciate it, because leave it or not,
I was going to play that bight next.
Speaker 7 (08:02):
No, it is incredibly important that I stress, and I
hope that, if confirmed, you continue to stress that every
man and woman has opportunity to serve their country and
uniform and do so at any level as long as
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they are meeting the standards that are set forward. And
we talked about that in my office. I do believe
in high standards.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
Now, I was.
Speaker 7 (08:34):
Denied the opportunity to serve in any combat role because
I have a lot of gray hair, and the policy
has changed since then. Okay, so I've been around for
quite a while.
Speaker 1 (08:48):
Wait a sec. Because she's talking about the capitalist rule, right,
and until this nation adopts it. It is a mega
blind spot. And that rule is it's all about the
stand and you do not at this point, you do
not keep people out of combat roles because of the
number on their driver's license. You know, well, you don't
(09:09):
keep out of combat roles because of their age. If
somebody can meet the standards, because we all know how
dramatically things have changed. You got a lot of guys,
You got a lot of guys right now in their fifties,
lord knows, but some in their sixties, you know, who
have every physical capability and they also have the wisdom
of the years, etc. And they want to go serve,
and they want to go serve in combat roles. It's
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a blind spot for this country not to permit it.
And then when it comes and we'll talk when we
come back, as we play more of this excess sound
about women in combat? What I'd like to do, because
I've never served, I would love to hear. I would
love to hear from people who have served, you know, male, female,
what you think about women in these combat positions? Because
me just sitting here, it's easy to say, and I
(09:52):
do believe it's all about the standard but if you've
been there, if you've been in these combat situations, maybe
most recently in Iraq, if a stand whatever is a
practical matter, can that work out. I'm just talking about
logistically mechanically. I don't think anybody does that. Women would
be superb the right woman right, just like the right
guy in a combat role. But as a practical logistical matter,
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can it work in the field? Can it work on
the battlefield? You're on the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 4 (10:26):
And now back to the Dan Kaplass Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (10:29):
Just singing at the inauguration. She's singing America the Beautiful.
I believe that's wonderful. Can you imagine how good that's
going to be. It's gonna be phenomenal. I'm so glad she's
doing it.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
But she is getting some backlash from fans and trolls
on Instagram and the socials.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
No, no, no, no, no, some trolls. Maybe she wouldn't get
any backlash from any true fan. But at this point,
isn't this fun to watch? Ryan Yes said that there
is so, but there's so much less of it now,
right because the dynamics so different with Trump taking off now,
how everything he overcame the way he responded to the
assassination attempt. Everything else. There is so much less of
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this hateful, blind resistance, not because all of a sudden
all those people have become good and pure and everything else,
but because they know at this point they've lost, and
the American people chose Trump, and they risk their own
power if they come out now and they try to
do the same hateful stuff toward him. There's still some pockets,
but he could you do me a favorite during one
(11:29):
of the breaks? I mean sure, For those who haven't
heard a lot of Carrie Underwood, she has almost supernatural
abilities and it often comes out, I guess, maybe appropriately
when she's singing religious stuff. So maybe a little how
great Thou Art Sure or something like that, just played,
Jesus take the whey on it? That's all yeh. But
I'm talking about range. Oh yeah, you're the music guy.
(11:50):
I'm just a lay person who knows what I like here.
Hey on American Idol? Yeah, give him a ten.
Speaker 3 (11:54):
I know the one you're talking about, and it's when
you were attending one of her shows. It was in Vegas, right,
oh yeah, And I'll try to track something representative down
along those lines. Just an interesting kind of pop culture
not I was talking about this on my program Dan
with regard to Carrie Underwood. John Rich, a big and
rich who's a fervent Trump supporter and one of us
and quotes he said, Carrie Underwood's just the tip of
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the iceberg, and that he hopes a lot more people
will come right out in not the Trump haters, but
the ones that might have been agnostic, like I don't
want to get involved, I don't want to support Trump,
and I don't want to vocalize that.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
But the more of those that come.
Speaker 3 (12:29):
Out, like John Rich has and said, now, look I
like President Trump, or I am proud that he's my president,
or I admire him for going through an assassination attempt
and all these other things. The more of those that
come forward in John Rich's mind, and I agree with this,
the less there's going to be this vitriol and these
people carping at Trump with Trump's arrangement syndrome, because it's
going to be normalized to use the the lef's word
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that Donald Trump is not the demon the left portrays.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Him to be. And I'm really glad you used that word,
because yeah, there's going to be more of that, right,
and with more, and Trump's already so successful. I mean,
look at if, in fact this deal comes through to
free the hostages. That was Trump who got that deal
even before taking office. Right. But you're right, the more
people come forward on the positive side, the less they'll
be of the other. But the less there's going to
(13:12):
be of the other anyway, because it's not working for
them and they're doing it in their own best interests.
All I'm saying is it all creates, it all helps
create this moment in America. We haven't had one like it,
at least in my young lifetime, where there's this opportunity
for the country to become significantly less polarized. And then,
as Trump has said, unify around success because nothing's guaranteed,
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but all indications are there's going to be a lot
more success on multiple fronts than America's had in quite
a while now. Eight five five four zero five eight
two five five. So bottom line is Trump has normalized himself.
Trump has normalized himself through his success, normalized himself by
overcoming what appeared to be to many almost impossible hurdles.
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I mean, we predicted here he would win for the
reasons we predicted he did. But then the he handled
that assassination attempt in Butler, after being shot, so many
other things, he has normalized himself and he's taken it
one step further. Not to get all philosophical, he's gone
beyond normalizing himself. He has now at this point turned
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himself into an almost mythical figure. And if the success
that I expect to happen happens, then then yeah, it
is going to be. It's almost in dimensions a biblical
type story when he's done with that term eight f
five zero five A two five five or plan A
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lot of hegsas sound today, but we have a lot
to do locally because and we were on it yesterday,
you know, as it was unfolding real time, Denver and
Denver becoming so very dangerous and almost by design, I mean,
another big step taken by Denversity Council to expand this
needle exchange program will lead not the next segment, because
(14:57):
George Brockler will join us in the next segment this
with him and play the full story after that. But then,
of course this you have this serial killer loose on
the mall because remember once he stabbed three people in
an hour and slit the throat of a flight attendant.
It was clear he intended to kill all three. So
at that point, you know, you have a serial killer
(15:20):
loose on the mall, and one thing you know is
that that killer is going to kill again, and there's
every reason to believe that killer is going to kill again,
and that they're going to kill on the mall. So
the only way to protect people at that point is
a five alarm fire warning, because you could flood that
mall with officers. You could have every Denver police officer
(15:42):
on that mall, and you know, when you're dealing with
a psycho serial killer that you're not going to be
able to stop them. And because serial killer like that,
how's the cop going to stop it? You flood the
entire mall with cops and he just walks there. Normal
looking guy, you know, stone or type, but normal looking
guy walks onto the mall and he has that big
(16:03):
old butcher knife under his coat. Every single officer in
Denver could be on the mall and you're not going
to be able to stop him because he is a
psychoone he's determined to kill. So you know, at that
point is the Mayor of Denver that the only way
the minute you find out about this is Mary of Denver,
you know, the only way you can protect the people
of Denver and beyond is to warn them. Five Allied fire.
(16:26):
We got a psycho serial killer targeting the mall. Every
citizen of this nation deserve that warning. Deserve that warning
as a matter of basic human decency, as a matter
of public responsibility, because that's the only way you can
protect him. And that warning did not come. And we're
going to get to the bottom of that, and I'll
explain the steps we're taking to get to the bottom
(16:47):
of it, because I believe I can't prove it right now,
but logic tells you it's true, and we're taking all
the steps and we need to get the evidence to
prove it. Somebody made that decision that we are not
going to do that big warning, and they had to
know it's the only way to protect the people, but
they decided not to protect the people in the interest
of what was it? Was it Mike Johnston's political interest.
(17:10):
Just take your chances because it would hurt Mike Johnston,
because it would hurt business. Whatever it was. The people
weren't warned somebody had to make that decision. It would
be even worse if nobody had made the decision right now.
It's disqualifying. If it is true he did that, he
should leave office right now. But it would be even
worse if he didn't make the decision. It would be
(17:31):
even worse. If he's so out of the loop he
wasn't informed, or that he was informed and it never
occurred to him to warn the people, that would be
even worse. But one way or the other, we have
got the worst kind of scandal. Because you have the
big scandals involving money, and they're really bad. That's a
big deal. A lot of people in jail for those things,
except politicians. And then you have the worst kind of scandal,
(17:53):
which is the scandals that get people killed, and this
is one of them. Because every person in America who
could have even thought of coming to the mall, certainly
every person in Denver and Colorado should have been warned
we've got a psycho serial killer loose on the mall,
and then they can make their own decision whether to
go down there.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
Now.
Speaker 1 (18:13):
I don't know the identity d yet run of that
last victim who was murdered by the serial killer, No,
the mall serial killer. And so I don't know the backstory,
but it may well be we'll find out that this
victim would not have gone there if those warnings admissioned.
Maybe they lived down there and they would have been
there anyway, but maybe they would have stayed inside. Who's
(18:34):
going to go down there? If you get the kind
of warning you should have that we've got a psycho
serial killer loose on the mall. People deserve that warning.
Somebody made the decision not to give it. We're going
to find out who you're on the Dan.
Speaker 4 (18:46):
Capital you're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 8 (18:57):
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on January twentieth, when President Trump is sworn in, he
will issue a new set of lawful orders, and the
leadership of our services will have an opportunity to follow
those lawful orders or not. Those lawful orders will not
be based on politics. They will be based on readiness, accountability, standards,
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and lethality. That is the process by which leaders will
be judged. And accountability is coming because everybody in this
room knows.
Speaker 1 (19:26):
If you're a rifleman and you lose.
Speaker 8 (19:28):
Your rifle they're throwing the book at you.
Speaker 1 (19:33):
But if you're a.
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Speaker 1 (19:37):
Wow. Wow. Yeah. So the beauty of this is Hegsa's
not only going to be confirmed, but he's going to
come into office in a stronger position than it looked
like you would even a couple of weeks ago. Hey,
let's go to the VIP line. This is exciting stuff.
It's not often we get a whole new judicial district,
but Douglas County now, which used to be part of
(19:58):
the eighteenth, combined with the REPO and others, it is
now its own judicial district. And so George Brockler joins us, says,
the first elected DA of the twenty third right, because
we've never had a twenty third before. How does it feel,
my friend?
Speaker 2 (20:16):
It feels good to finally be in that position, and
a good friend of ours, I think, is equally relieved
to finally have finished up with his portion of that process.
But it's exciting, it feels daunting. I now know that
every small or big horrible thing that happens in this
jurisdiction is now gonna at some point land on my
(20:39):
desk in a way that it didn't before.
Speaker 1 (20:42):
So I'm ready.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
I got a great team, so excited. John's efforts to
put me in the best position to win have been wonderful.
Miss I'm gonna miss.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
That guy, referring to John Kellner, obviously a good friend
and looking forward to trying a bunch of cases with John.
And yeah, so John has on a great job. But
now that the twenty thirty is the twenty third in
and of itself, and I've got to think, George, that
everything you've done in your whole life prepares you for this.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
In some weird ways, it has. I mean, I never
expected I would get to be a prosecutor again after
I left the eighteenth and then this new judicial district
sort of started to come to life, and I was
at a place where I thought, I can still do
something here, I can make a difference. And nobody, nobody
alive has ever started a brand new DA's office, and
(21:33):
certainly not in these times where it's challenging. And I
feel incredibly blessed. But I also feel like if there
was someone more qualified to do this job, I'd yield
it to them. But I just don't know who that is, well.
Speaker 1 (21:45):
Right, and I think in so many different ways. Obviously
you probably didn't see any of the heccess stuff today,
but your own military career, your stant successful stan very
successful stint in the eighteenth and then you know Douglas
count itself. Because I've got to tell you, I'm privileged
to try cases a lot of places in this state,
and I love them all. Douglas County is one of
(22:06):
my favorites. It's it's just as you know that, the
county itself, the courthouse, everything about it. I just think,
like John before you, you're a perfect fit for it.
Speaker 2 (22:18):
You know what's interesting about Douglas is it's very conservative.
It definitely shows some signs of bluing, especially in highlands
ranch in like the House District forty three area. But
it's not a place that most civil attorneys, PLANEFF attorneys
want to come. As you know, most civil attorneys feel
like I'm going I'm going to get a better jury
and in Denver or maybe in Boulder Adams or something
(22:40):
like that. But you've proven time and again when you
come down here that if if you can talk to smart, educated,
you know, valued principled people, you can get great results
for your clients. These are just great neighbors to have.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
You know wonderful people, and I know you've had the
same experience. One of my great regrets is that we
have an at the chance to try a case together,
because I know what a great trial lawyer you are.
But every trial lawyer knows everybody who's served on a
jury knows a fundamental truth. All jurors are smart everywhere.
It doesn't matter if they have one year education fifty
years education. They're all smart everywhere, and it's just a
(23:15):
matter of being able to go into wherever you are
and just tell the true story in an effective way there,
which you have always been wonderful at. So will you
be in I already know the answer to this question
without you telling me, But will you be in the
courtroom in Douglas?
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Well? Yeah, So I reached out to my Chief of
County court that's all the misdemeanors to uys and all that,
because I thought there'd be a better answer to this.
But I said, hey, grab me up something in week one.
I want to be in the court right trying the case.
Was one of these junior guys, kind of like way
back in the day when Bob Er and I did that. Yeah,
remember that now? Do.
Speaker 1 (23:49):
We talk about it all the time.
Speaker 2 (23:50):
I push it through that. Yeah, so I tried that
turns out we had nothing this week. Next week, I'm
hopeful I put myself on a shaken baby case in
February and then their hicular homicide that has yet to
be set. But my intention is to lead from the front.
I'm not going to Obama this thing.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
See that that is wonderful. George Brockler obviously our guest,
the very first district attorney of the newly created twenty
third And that's great, and you're going to be more fulfilled,
the people of the county be well served because it's
hard to imagine a better trial er than you. And
that's just great for everybody, right because everybody listening knows,
(24:26):
whether they do that for a job or not, that
trial is hard work. Trial's tough, and so you know,
when you lead by example like that, it's going to
help the whole office.
Speaker 2 (24:37):
I hope, so, but I also hope, and I don't
want people to take this the wrong way, But I
also hope, and I said this in my comments today.
Fun right, Like, we do have cases where you're dealing
with the worst of the worst humanity, but you also
have cases where you get exposed to some of the
best of humanity and you happen to represent the Castillo's
and their son is one of the examples of when
(24:58):
you get to see the best of humans. But in
between there are a lot of opportunities to do great
work for the victims in the community but still have fun.
And I love trial because as intense as it is,
every trial and you know that leads to some kind
of crazy story that you end up telling with friends
over at barbecue and a beer or something and they're like,
no way, and you're like, yeah way. Every time you know.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Well, and it's kind of and everybody listening, in their
own life and their own chosen paths, has whatever it
is that gives them that maximum joy and fulfillment, and
that can be found in the midst of all these
tragedies when you feel like you've really been able to
do justice for somebody going through something horrible. And so
in a DA's office, obviously you have that opportunity all
(25:42):
the time, but talk's cheap. You got to do the work,
You got to go in, you got to try the case,
and you know you have a history of doing that,
like John before you, and I have no doubt your
team is going to follow your lead. And from what
I've been hearing from John, You've got a lot of
great people.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
We kind of post a lot of the best and
the brightest from Arapa Ho. I know John was regretful
about that at the time. I think he's given up
on that now. But I was very fortunate. And a
lot of this has to do with Douglas County being
so favorable and so supportive and putting together the best
team possible. He brought up doing great things. One of
the most moving things about today, and it was packed
(26:20):
in the jury commissioners room in Douglas Canton. I was
given some comments. Is the number of victims from past cases,
from Aurora to Stem to Cody Donahue, the troop of
that got killed on the overn that came to this thing. Wow,
and came up to me and said, I'm so proud
of you, thank you. I'll never forget what you did
(26:41):
for me, And I remember I didn't. You know, you
get overwhelmed. And I imagine even clients that you had
years later when they reached back out and say thank
you for what you've done. And you think I love
this job, man, I love the opportunity to just bring
just a little bit of comfort to these people.
Speaker 1 (26:57):
Well, and that's obviously a great testament you because you
know they're going through the absolute worst moment in their
lives or anybody's life. You know, when when you're involved
in helping him in every way you can. So yeah,
and I've always said I think, short of President of
the United States, the most important vote anybody ever casts
is for their local district attorney. And because you talk
(27:19):
about real impact on your life, positive or negative, it's
the quality of that DA. So people on really good
hands with you, my friend and I. I hope we
can keep getting you on air. I hope you can
come in and do the show occasionally, though I know
you're going to be pretty slammed.
Speaker 2 (27:35):
Happy to do it. And please just keep a seat
warm for me for whether it's four or eight years,
I'm going to be an intern again.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Oh man, I'd tell you I would love to try
a case with you, and I have dreamed also of
trying cases with John and we're going to have him
on tomorrow and talk about that in some more detail.
But hey man, congrats on it all. Full disclosure. I
supported George's campaign and wrote whatever small check they allow
you to, right, but best money I could spend, because
you are going to get it done, my friend, and
(28:03):
the best of luck with it.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
Thanks sir, Hi to Kelly and Ryan too.
Speaker 1 (28:07):
I will do that. Take care of that is George Brockler.
So you know, Douglas has been very fortunate. They've had
a string of really good das through the eighteenth and
George through the eighteenth, followed by John Brockler. John Brockler,
we'll have laugh about that tomorrow. John Kellner following George
(28:29):
who then was the DA for Douglas and had great
success Era and now George, and man, that is just
so critical in so many ways. You want to exhibit
a Hey, look at Denver, right, the great people of
Denver deserve a lot better than they've had with with
Beth McCann and my humble opinion and all that stuff.
They're about to get a DA who I think is
going to do a real good job, and he's an
(28:51):
elected Democrat. This is not a party thing necessarily, because
you have those elected das who are Democrats, who, in
my opinion, then let politics influence and political philosophy, you know,
influence prosecutorial decisions, and then all of a sudden you
have criminals running wild in the communities in more danger
(29:13):
my humble opinion, that's what happened with Beth McCann. Then
all of a sudden, your police officers don't have what
they need, that people don't have what they need. Criminals
figure out that hey, they can get off easy in
Denver often, and then you have elected Democrats who don't
go that political route, who just stand up, take on
that sacred responsibility and do a great job. I think
the next Denver DA is going to do that. We'll
(29:34):
find out together. You're on the Dan Capla Show.
Speaker 4 (29:43):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
Literally, and that must be what the angels sound like.
Have you ever thought about that in a turn to
be religious or anything. Have you ever thought about what
goes on up there, what Helen's really like, what it
looks like, and you know, what goes on down there?
I mean, yeah, and we're seeing a lot of what
goes on down there up here, but we see a
lot of what goes on up there down here too.
So that's deep. Well, that's deep.
Speaker 3 (30:10):
There's a working theory Dan that actually we souls here
on this planet Earth. This is purgatory. This is the
in between stage. I'm just saying there are people that believe.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
That, not me, because the way I look at it
is particularly this is we're a lot of rewinners, right,
We're born in America. I mean, this is in heaven.
This isn't our home, This isn't our destination, right, you know,
but this is pretty awesome. I mean, we're we are
created for this opportunity, and yeah, so I think this
is pretty pretty awesome. But yeah, not our destination. I
(30:44):
think in our destination depends on what we do here there.
It is yeah, five five four zero five eight two
five five The number takes d a N five seven
seventh three nine. And I respect the fact that that
a lot of people disagree with that. That's just what
I have and to believe, Texters, and I've got to
I've got to tell you this. And I know it
(31:09):
doesn't show in the way I always do things, but
it's not just what I believe. It's what I know,
which is part of what scares me, right, because I'm
really blessed. Part of it is my parents, some life
experiences everything else. But I just I just know that
is true. So you would think I would do some
things better, but yeah, it's just you just know it's true.
(31:32):
And so eight five five or zero five A two
five five text d a N five seven seven three nine.
And it really does make me wonder, you know, it
makes me wonder about a guy like Joe Biden, right
because I look at myself and I feel very, very
blessed to have been raised by my parents and to uh,
you know, be raised in the Catholic faith and all
(31:54):
of that. Not to in any way, shape or form
reflect on anybody else's faith, you know, it's but I
just feels so fortunate that way. And I sit here
and I know what an imperfect Catholic I am. I'm
not proud of that. I'm working on it. I'm a
work in progress. But then you look at a guy
like Joe Biden who comes out and to get votes
(32:15):
and everything else. I'm a devout Catholic, devout Catholic, self
described devout Catholic, and then uses all these gifts God
gave him in the position that he's put in then
to do everything he possibly can to work against the
foundational teaching of the Catholic Church. And you just wonder,
because do you ever worry do you ever worry about
like Judgment Day? Yeah, okay, no, I don't mean sure.
Speaker 4 (32:38):
It's like studying for a test.
Speaker 3 (32:40):
And then you're like, I don't know, maybe yeah.
Speaker 1 (32:42):
The only thing I can be sure of is I'm
not sure, and I mean, I know it's coming, but
I want more mercy than justice. I'm sure don't want
justice because justice means I get what's due to me.
I don't want what's due to me. I want mercy.
But you think about that Judgment Day. And I've always
wondered about these politicians that run around saying I'm Catholic,
vote for me, and then their most fervent commitment is
(33:04):
to spreading the mass killing of God's creation before they're born.
And I just wonder do they have no thought of
Judgment Day? Because when you get to the abortion issue,
and I've got some other stuff to talk about, believe
it or not, But when you get to the abortion issue,
you can completely separate out religious beliefs, and at that
(33:24):
point abortion is still as obviously wrong for completely non
religious reasons. You just start with the basic medicine and
basic morality and basic right and wrong. But for the
people who choose to get elected to office by saying
I'm a Catholic, I'm a Catholic, I'm a Catholic, or
I'm a Christian, I'm a Christian, I'm a Christian. Then
they go do the exact opposite with the power people
(33:46):
give them. Do they ever even think about judgment day?
You think you think Biden thinks about that now as
he gets closer and closer and listen, we're all day
to day, we could all be minutes away. But do
you think he thinks about that? I don't think he
thinks about these days. Well, I think we just had
one confirm, one question confirmed. And I had always been
(34:08):
concerned that Michelle Obama might run for president against President Trump,
and I'm glad that she did not. I think that
if she had run and run right, she would have
by far been the toughest to beat. Do I think
that after Butler, that Trump, the tremendous way he handled that, etc.
Would have beat her. I think he probably would have,
But she would have been infinitely tougher than anybody else
(34:29):
if she ran right. But I think the hope that
she would not run because she couldn't stomach losing to
Donald Trump, or even the possibility she'd lose to Trump.
Was just confirmed because one of the real low class
moves politically speaking in a long time. She's not going
to go to the inauguration that was just announced, and
(34:50):
so I think that confirms the earlier theory and really
does not reflect well on her. You're on the Dan
Kapla Show.
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