A texter laments the brisk speed with which KBB talks, but Ryan points out why it's actually an attribute.
KBB and Ryan discuss whether or not President Trump's idea of re-opening Alcatraz for America's most hardened criminals is a good idea.
KBB breaks down the massive drawbacks of Senate Bill 25-276, with Democrats offering further legal protections and sanctuary for illegal aliens against ICE deportations.
KBB and Ryan discuss whether or not President Trump's idea of re-opening Alcatraz for America's most hardened criminals is a good idea.
KBB breaks down the massive drawbacks of Senate Bill 25-276, with Democrats offering further legal protections and sanctuary for illegal aliens against ICE deportations.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Dan Capless and welcome to today's online podcast
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
We're listening to the Dan Tabla's Show.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
I'm Christy Burton Brown and for Dan today since he
is in trial. We were talking about right before we
took a break, we were talking about Christinome being in
front of Congress giving testimony and how so many of
the liberals on the committee just want to cut her
off when she says like two words to answer them.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
All they want to be like, is reclaiming my time?
Reclaiming my time, stop filibustering. I will not let you
take my time to philibuster. I mean, it's like they're
trying to provoke a cat fight, so to speak.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
He's filibustering during that time.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
I know, oh they are, oh oh, and what I
actually love.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
And I'm not the world's biggest fan of Christinome for
a variety of reasons, but I will give her so
much credit for how she handled that hearing in many ways,
and I didn't see every moment of it.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
I don't know if any of the rest of you
is it either.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Usually I listened to a little little peace it because
it just takes so many hours and I have.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Life like most of us do.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
But she reminded me in some ways of Amy Cony
Barrett when she's when she sat there very professional, sometimes
continued to give her answer even when they tried to
cut her off.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
But she did not get mad.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
She did not fight back, even when they were trying
to provoke her into some sort of fight or demand
that she only answer the way they insisted she answer.
She did her job. She said, here's the actual answer.
She got asked one question about this house. And I
think it was in Oklahoma, and there was there's a
raid on the house.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
And I think it involved illegal immigrants.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Not one hundred percent sure all the details there, but anyway,
the Democrat congressman was making a big issue out of
it and saying, if you find out that these people
it was a mom and her two kids who were
forced out on the lawn in the rain when they
in the middle of the night when they raided her house,
and if you find out that there was nothing there,
are you going to.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Make sure she gets all her property back.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
And so Christino, I'm very calmly said the reason they
were raiding that house and had a warrant to do so,
it wasn't against the mom and her children. It was
against the house, and the house was known to be
a place where human trafficking was occurring, and that is
why they deierated the house. Yeah, the congresswoman did really
have a huge response back to that, because those are
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the simple, hardcore facts like I'm sorry a mom and
her daughters got caught up in that and had to
I don't know, be out on their lawn at night
in a rainstorm. I mean, probably more important to go
catch human traffickers and find evidence in the house to
catch them than for someone to have to be on
their lawn in the.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Rain for a little bit.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
But I will say major kudos to Christy nom for
being able to hold it together in spite of how
many of the liberal women who are congressmen treat her.
Another important thing that I think she brought attention to
is that the federal government is looking at potentially reforming
or changing or completely altering FEMA. Never know exactly how
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far President Trump is going to take it, but he's
considering taking FEMA and returning a lot of the power
to the states and saying, you decide how you want
to handle emergencies and natural disasters that happen in your state.
I believe the federal government would still provide money and
other resources when natural disasters happen, but instead of federal
government coming in and kind of like running the operation,
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which is often what FEMA does, returning more power to
the states. One of the congress women very very offended
by that idea and be like, oh, what are the
problems with FEMA, Why would.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
They do that?
Speaker 3 (03:27):
And Christinome responded, she said, well, there are actually requests
still open at FEMA from Hurricane Katrina that still have
not been resolved, people who still haven't been given the
money that they were supposed to be awarded during Hurricane Katrina.
So clearly FEMA is not doing its job and being competent. Now,
when we talk about Donald Trump and his you know,
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his administration's desire to return many things to the states,
I think on occasion his administration is talking out of
two sides of their mouth. Now, I'm a huge fan
of returning many things to the states, education, Department of Education,
close it down, return a lot of the education power
to the states. I still think there should be some
federal funding, of course, especially of key programs to the
states when it comes to education. But you tell me
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the layers of bureaucracy and administration created by federal Department
of Education when the federal government doesn't actually run education
in the first place. And states are unique and local
districts are unique. So I'm a big fan in general
of returning more power to the states. But it's a
very odd thing that the Trump administration recently did that
Senator Josh Holly was actually speaking out against the Department
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of Justice actually sided with Biden administration rules in a
very key federal case going on right now about the
FDA's regulation or really lack of regulation on the abortion pills.
The DOJ under President Trump actually filed a brief, fairly
scathing brief against the states who are trying to say that, hey,
like our states don't allow abortion pills. Other states have
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companies that are like mailing these pills into our state.
We have standing to sue the FDA and say you
need to crack down on you need to have better regulations.
Women are being injured, women are being hurt. The Trump
administration came in against the states to try to say
they didn't have standing and couldn't bring a case like this.
So basically Trump administration defending Biden era rules that are
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allowing abortion pills to be available online over mail, and
we actually do see a lot of women actually dying
from planned parenthood clinics that are mailing abortion pills across
state lines without ever seeing the women in person, so
they're not determining how far along in pregnancy they are.
Women are taking it way further out than they should.
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Of course, I don't think she'd ever take it, but
I'm saying, even when you're all you're looking at is
the women's health, it's way further out for her own
health than she should.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Be taking it.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
And women are dying from this, and yet the Trump
administration is siding with Biden era regulations. I find that
to be very troubling, especially if in general Trump administration
is going to come down on the side of states,
will then come down on the side of states that
want to prevent this kind of interstate commerce that is
really damaged and heart and harming their citizens. So and
I would also expect the Trump administration to want to
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change FDA regulations that are really really outdated and dangerous
on the abortion pill. More credit to Senator Josh Holly
though he is sponsoring a bill in the Senate. I
think it just dropped today that would actually require the
FDA to change their regulations on the abortion pill, also
allow women to sue these mail order places that are
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really mishandling their health and mishandling the mailing of abortion pills.
And it would ban abortion pills from being sold to
American women from overseas companies where there's a lot of
a lot of danger going on there. So he is
proposing a really good bill there in the Senate. I
hope it gets through and gets some good support. When
we look at other things going on to the federal level,
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we also see that now the Pentagon is reviewing Pete
Hegsett's use of the signal app That is a scandal
that just doesn't seem to want to.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Die, person after person.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
I mean, they're getting rid of one person getting the
next person in investigating this person investigating that person. I mean,
I think what the big picture here is, if you
are running the Department of Defense or you are involved
in running the Department of Defense. We deal of top
secret issues at the Department of Defense, and you should
probably know that if you are using or any of
your people are using an encrypted app like Signal, you
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don't just randomly invite people in without knowing exactly who
they are.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Now, do I know who's false all this was?
Speaker 4 (07:25):
No?
Speaker 3 (07:26):
I do not. I am not at the Pentagon, I
am not doing the investigations, but it is very clear
that in some way that was really mishandled with a
media being brought into a signal string run by the
Department of Defense. So I don't really know who's ultimately
at fault, but it is definitely the scandal that keeps
on giving, and now Pete heeg Seth being looked into
by the Pentagon. Ryan, do you have an opinion on
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what the final outcome of this should be and when
it's going to actually end.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
Well, I think we.
Speaker 5 (07:51):
Saw kind of a peak a portion of that. I
spoke with Reagan Reese, who is the White House correspondent
for The Daily Caller, and I think she was pretty
much on the nose that Mike Waltz being basically sidelined.
I mean he was demoted, let's call it what it is,
from Trump's enter circle as National Security advisor, and now
he's going to be the US Ambassador to the United Nations,
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a role that at least Stephonic was going to fill.
It's a way to kind of get him out of
the way without embarrassing him. And there's no excuse in
my mind. And when it happened, KBB, I don't know
if I talk to you about it, but whether it
was Waltz himself or somebody on his watch, it came
from his office and somebody leaked that to one of
the most antagonistic members of the media and the Atlantic,
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to Donald Trump's So to me, it doesn't even matter.
Was it intentional, was it accidental? How does it happen
at all?
Speaker 2 (08:41):
You can it can't happen Department Defense.
Speaker 5 (08:43):
And that's why I don understand why Waltz wasn't summarily
dismissed at that point and send a message to the rest.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
Now, as far as Hegseth.
Speaker 5 (08:50):
Goes, it's been a much different reaction, if you notice,
from Donald Trump he is basically stonewalled the media and
said no, Pete's doing a great job.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
Recruitment numbers are up. We don't want to get rid
of him.
Speaker 5 (09:00):
But what I think exposes is Pete's lack of kind
of familiarity with how things work inside Washington.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
And this is one of those downfalls.
Speaker 5 (09:10):
And just to me an utter lapse and judgment that
you would even risk any kind of security breach and
use this app in an inappropriate way of family members.
I don't really understand it, and I don't know what
the answer is going to be.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Yeah, No, I think that's a good insight things for
sharing that, Ryan. We'll talk about another policy that just
got upheld by the Supreme Court for President Trump's Department
of Defense, or it didn't get upheld, a stay got
removed from it with transgender people in the military. I'll
update you on that when we come back on the
dan CAPLA Show. I'm Kristy Burton Brown. You can text
your thoughts five seven, seven, three nine.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Welcome back to the dan CAPLA Show. I'm Christy Burton Brown.
I am so sorry to this Texter saying I talk
so fast, slow down. I will tell you a great
story about that though, and I apologize that I probably
will never talk Oh that is sadly just not me.
It is the most common common comments I always get.
But I don't know if I've ever told you this story, Ryan,
But so I think I have feel like I have.
(10:09):
But I'm sure there's someone out there listening that's never
heard it. My husband loves audio books. He listens to
them at three or four time speed, which which is insane.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
It's insane. I'm not an audio learner. He is and
probably the smartest person I've ever met in my life.
But I asked him, like, how in the world do
you do it? And he's like, Christy, it's because I
live with you and I listened to Utah.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
So I learned it from you.
Speaker 5 (10:30):
Well, we had last time you filled in the speed
talker who said like the Guinness Book of World Records
on the Exactly TV commercial.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
So I don't know that you're that fast. I think
the pace is good. You know.
Speaker 5 (10:42):
It would be interesting though, Well it would be interesting
is if you co hosted a show with John caldera
Independence Institute and like the counter.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
Yeah, you know styles.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
I admit that I probably couldn't sit there too long
without interrupting.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
That is like one of my first policies.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
If you're talking so slow and I'm also tracking with
you and I know where you're going, I'm probably going
to jump in, like you.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Know, like let's let's go here. I can't I can't sit.
Speaker 5 (11:09):
But I think that that syncopated, staccato style that you
have is really well suited for radio because people want
to hear PEPPI.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Well, you know, it depends on what move they're in.
Do they want to be like put to sleep on
their drive home, I got nore or do.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
They want to stay awake. I will keep you away.
Well that I can do for.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
You gladly, Yes, but I do since we were moving
on to federal issues, I do want to talk about
and you got everyone knows. I like following the Supreme
Court and they're almost at the end of their term.
They'll finish deciding all the big cases that still have yet.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
To come down by the end of June, and then.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
They'll take a break over the summer where they still
hear emergency positions. They still decide sometimes which cases they're
going to take starting in the fall for the fall term,
but you don't see decisions coming out other than you know,
really big emergency ones over the summer. So transgenders in
the military. That is a policy that the President Trump
tried to undo and said, hey, the middle is not
going to have transgender people serving in the military. There
(12:03):
is a lower federal court that put a stay on
that and said, no, you actually can't make that order
right now. We're going to put a stay on your
order until this case passes all the way through. Trump
administration appealed that to the U. S. Supreme Court and
asked them to remove this stay so that the executive
order could stay in effect while the case made its
way through the system.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
And just this morning, the US Supreme.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Court did actually reverse that stay in a six to
three decision. So I think you can probably imagine the
makeup of the six to three decision. The three liberals
of course wanting to keep this stay in place, and
all six of the more conservative and moderate members of
the court siding with the Trump administration. And I think
it's right because no matter what your position is on
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transgenders in the military, like the president can make executive orders,
especially when it comes to the military, he is the
commander in chief. This isn't something he has to run
through Congress, and so too often, all too often in
today's modern world, every time a president makes an executive
order that the side doesn't like, they run to court,
like put a.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Stay on this, stop him from doing it, Like we can't.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Have these executive orders. So, guys, that's what happens. When
the majority of the country elects a president. That president
has something called executive power and he gets to make
executive orders. Now on occasion, are those misused? Are they
overplayed by either side of the aisle? Of course, I'd
say mostly by the left, but they absolutely are. But
there is a principle here that says a president with
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executive power can make executive orders. And so that's kind
of where the Supreme Court came down. Often when they
either lift or grant stays, they don't write big, long decisions.
They kind of just say, here's what the court's doing,
here's the justices who wouldn't have done it, and that's
about all you get.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
So we'll eventually have to find.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Out what the federal Court's actually actual reasoning is and
if it goes up to the US Supreme Court, what
they're actually reasoning is. But for now, they at least
think that President Trump has the ability to make that
executive order. Another movie is back down to the state level. Now,
another big piece of news that's very relevant to a
lot of Colorado voters. That happened also this morning. We
talked about it at the very beginning of the show
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at four o'clock, But for those of you just tuning
into this hour, I want to make sure you get this.
The TABOR lawsuit that the legislature was going to file
died in the state House this morning. It's very good
news for all voters in Colorado, seventy percent of whom
support our taxpayer's Bill of Rights. There was looming over
this session the threat of a resolution brought by a
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state representative in Denver Shock there to fight to order
the legislature to file a lawsuit in court saying that
the Taxpayer's Bill of Rights commonly called TABOR, was unconstitutional.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Now, this legislator didn't care.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
There was already a ten year long saga in federal
courts where people already suit over TABOR. Instead, it was unconstitutional,
and they lost. The federal court said it is constitutional.
It's totally fine for the Colorado Constitution to have a
taxpayer bill of rights that works exactly this way.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
They can in.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Fact restrain legislative spending and put a cap on it
like that is okay, That is constitutional, a democratic republican
form of government. And this legislator wanted the House to
pass another lawsuit because he thought he could win if
he took it to state court. But thankfully that died
this morning in the House isn't even going to take
an actual vote on it. So that shows you how
little support the resolution actually had despite all the talk
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that surrounded it good good news, and I guess we
have to pick out the few good news that we
actually get in the legislative session in Colorado, which thankfully
is going to be at an end by midnight tomorrow.
But it certainly brought us a lot of disastrous bills.
That is one of the few bright spots that a
lot of our legislators did work towards and make sure
that TABOR was at least protected in that way where
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our taxpayer funds don't have to be used to sue
us and take away our taxpayer bill of rights in
a very convoluted mix. When we talk about Denver, since
the representative bringing that, well, who wanted to bring.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
That lawsuit was from Denver.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Denver did something else very interesting that I think proves
where their allegiance is. They decided to get rid of
a bunch of installed cameras that were designed originally to
stop theft. You know, crime levels have been rising in
Denver and they, you know, had a brilliant idea, let's
put cameras everywhere, let's watch people will be able to
help stop theft. Well, now Denver City Council has voted
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to remove those cameras.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
But here's their reason.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Not because they've actually fixed theft, not because they found
a better way to crack down on crime, but because
ICE might get a hold of these cameras and their
recordings and be able to catch illegal immigrants.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Literally their reasoning right.
Speaker 5 (16:35):
They understand and I have to believe that they do.
And that makes it even worse. Did they understand who
they're protecting? And the better question of that would be
why why are they protecting these criminals or the likes
of Kilmar Abrago Garcia.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
But I understand to a point.
Speaker 5 (16:54):
You know, you want to repopulate the United States with
illegal aliens because they're indebted to Democrats, because you're give
them all these freebies, and you need to replenish the
voting supply because your policies.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
Don't work and they're not popular.
Speaker 5 (17:06):
But I don't understand what you know, what how about
the criminal legal aliens too, Let's protect them?
Speaker 4 (17:12):
Oh I know, I know.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
And here, if you think of it as a choice, like, hey,
let's leave these cameras in place that we were using
and originally designing to crack down on theft to help
the citizens of our city actually, you know, not get
their cars stolen, actually recover items that were stolen from them,
Like let's get let's get criminals on camera and catch them,
so we crack down on crime and make Denver a
safer place to live.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Okay, good, good motivation. You're trying to protect your people.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Well, now that is now outweighed by the fact that
they so badly do not want to help ICE. It's
not as if ICE or the federal government has even
come in and said, hey, give us recordings from your cameras.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
We're going to use them.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
It is literally based on the suspicion and the theory
that ICE might come in and ask for access to
these cameras, and so They're literally elevating their desire to
keep illegal immigrants. Many of them are criminals in Denver
because gang have made it their headquarters due to the
welcoming policies, they would rather help them than crack down
on crime along citizens.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
That gives you a picture of where Denver's at right now.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
I'm Christy Burton Brown. You're on the Dan Capla Show.
Keep texting your thoughts. I have more to go through.
Five seven, seven, three nine, or call in over the
break eight five five four zero five eight two five five.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
You're on the Dan Caplis Show.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
You're listening to the Dan Kapliss Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
You're on the Dan Caplas Show.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
I'm Christy Burton Brown.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
I want to get to one of our texters questions,
but Ryan, first, I have a question for you. So,
I I'm not sure if you talked about this on
your show earlier, but with Trump's announcement that he wants
to reopen Alcatraz, so like my parents took me there
when I was a baby, and for real, you've been
to Alcatraz. I don't remember it, but I have this
picture of me and my mom on the boat or
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the ferry whatever, it is because I was born in California.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
I'm one of those people born in my San.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Francisco and so my parents has a baby to have
y' all wrapped up in this little blanket. My mom
is finally really holding me on the ferry touring Alcatraz
and so obviously not a very nice place. And I
like the idea that he wants to open this for
like some of the worst of the worst criminals. Mostly
I like his reasoning no one has ever escaped. But
what do you think it costs? Actually lots of money
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I think to make it a real prison.
Speaker 5 (19:17):
Well, I don't think i'm speaking out of turn here,
but I have this exchange with John Fabricatory, who I
think is an expert on such matters. It is, and
he said, I'm not sure how I feel about it.
To redo that place will cost billions. We have the
ad X here in Colorado. We have a lot of
space in the Bureau of Prisons facilities right now. So
it sounds like fabs a little against it. I like
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the symbolism of it. This is the broader point where
I pick up what Trump's putting down. I think you
do too, And I think a lot of our listeners
do as well. There's two purposes to this. It sends
a message Alcatraz is back open for business, and we're
going to be tough on crime, and if you commit
the most horrendous, heinous crimes, we're going to put you
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there on the rock on the island getting off. So
it's the symbolism of it. But the other thing that
it does, and it did it again, and it's right
his rain, and it's just like clockwork. Donald Trump drives
the news cycle. These master I thought, these simpletons on
CNN and MSNBC, they don't follow John Fetterman's advice when
he told we can't be like a cat with a
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red laser and jump around and follow every little single
thing that Donald Trump does.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
And they did it again.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
Would be terrible because anything Trump says, well, then the
opposite has to be the correct view.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
And he just he just plays them.
Speaker 5 (20:37):
He's like the Godfather's symbol with the marionette strings, right,
he plays the media.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
And this was another example of that.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Well.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
And I always wonder because there are so many things
a president is involved with that one time by nature
of running the country, and that kind.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Of is the way it happens. What is he actually
doing that they're not paying.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Attention to, because he's like, you know, I come over here,
pay attention to what I'm making the noise about while
I go do all these.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
Yes, and they don't listen to him, and I'm glad
that they don't. But there are clarion calls coming from
the likes of Bill Maher as well, who's no friend
of Donald Trump's. But he said he had a great time,
and I thought it was so illuminating that he sat
there Bill Maher. I mean, this is a crusty old codger,
a traditional liberal leftist. That's fine, But he said he
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felt more comfortable being himself, saying what he thought, just
kind of shooting the breeze, hanging out with Donald Trump
than he ever did with Barack Obama or with Bill Clinton.
And with Barack Obama, this is a guy Obama that
mar Is aligned with politically. But he had to beg
and plead for Obama to come on his show, and
he only did it in his eighth year in office,
(21:43):
toward the very end of his term, and it was
invite to the White House only is very stuffy sure,
and he said he didn't feel comfortable. He didn't feel
personal connection with Obama and he felt that with Trump,
which is really bad for the hashtag.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
Trump is hitler crowd.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Well, and I think there's two reasons for that.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
One.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
I think Trump is a reality TV person himself. He's
very comfortable, like in front of the camera. I mean,
you see how he interacts with reporters when he does
these one on one sit downs. Loves to be like,
I am giving you an advantage and whatever heard your
name before?
Speaker 4 (22:10):
I mean, like Terry Moran.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
He just like that's how he talks like and it's second.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Nature to him because he literally is a reality TV
star himself, so not shy in front of the cameras.
I also think, though, that he is a far more just,
down to earth, regular guy who happened to be very
good at business and make a lot of money and
come from a successful family and all of that.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
But he is not a typical politician.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
Barack Obama, before becoming president, was a state senator, was
a US senator, is a lawyer, and how I'm a lawyer,
so I like lawyers, but is a different feel to have.
An average worky guy businessman created his own way in
the world and a more intellectual elite who becomes a president.
I think Barack Obama is a more charismatic speaker than
Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
But Donald Trump is a more populist speaker.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
And that is what many people in America want to
hear today, as someone who identifies with them, not someone
who I don't know talks at them.
Speaker 5 (23:01):
Well, a couple points on that from historical perspective, and
his dad, Fred was big in instilling this and Donald
at a very young age. They go on work sites
and Donald would go and talk to each of the
member of the construction crew, and he was much more interested.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
In how do you do your job? You know, this
looks great, You're doing a great job. That way when
he was young, I'm sure he did. I've seen interview.
It's a little bit less so, but he's more animated
that way now.
Speaker 5 (23:25):
But when you talk to you know, like we're talking
about the salt of the earth, working class population.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
People I grew up with, I think people you grew
up with. Christy as well.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
Cindy Romero, for instance, felt an immediate personal connection with
Donald Trump and met him when he came to Aurora
there for that rally. And also you look at the
autoworkers in McComb County. These are guys that get their
hands dirty every day. And there's one in particular from
Michigan that met with Trump personally, and Donald Trump talked
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to him on a personal level, spent time with him,
brought him up on stage.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
That was the other like he's talking to the average
Joe's in the front row.
Speaker 5 (24:02):
You guys are always here, you look like you lost weight,
you've been eating better, And it's little things like that, to.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
Be all they kind of laugh it off.
Speaker 5 (24:09):
But no, that's the authentic Donald Trump, and he wants
to connect with those people. I think he's much more
impressed by those types of people than the muckety MUCKs
he's run around with who pretended to be his friends
for all those years and then turned on him politically.
I think that taught Donald Trump an important personal and
political lesson right then and there.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
And I agree with you.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
And one of the people that I got to meet
when I was a vice chairman of the state Party,
who personally knew Trump and worked with him very very closely.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
The story she would.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
Tell is like when he would go to events, he
would make a point to go in the kitchens and
talk to whoever's making the food. Go talk to the
people on the staff. He'd remember their names and go
back and talk to them later.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
So like this isn't someone who's just like, oh, the
carameras will watch me, go talk to these people. He'd
do it because he wanted to. And those are the
kind of people he's used to talking to that he
wants to talk to. The things are the people he's representing.
Speaker 5 (24:56):
And look like you're the Easter egg role that they
had on the Monday after Easter. Sunday, he's sitting there,
he's coloring with the kids. He loved it. You could
tell he was living it up in the dullium. I
can't find a white cran. I'm not sure what to
do do I just leave it. I'm really having a
good time with this. And he's said, look over there,
you know she is, that's the first lady. She's beautiful.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
Like yeah, he was in his element with these.
Speaker 5 (25:18):
Little kids and they're just like, oh my god, it's
the president and he loves that.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
He eats it up and that's all genuine authentic. You
can't fake it.
Speaker 5 (25:25):
You can't fake it in a way that's as believable
as when you watch Donald Trump do it.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
I agree with that, and that's actually one of the
reasons that I am curious. I don't I can't figure
it out quite yet, but I've watched some of his
clips where he's talking about who might succeed him, because
obviously he's not going to have a third term, and
he's admitted that, like, no, he's not actually trying for
a third term.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
That's not allowed and it's not what he's trying for.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
But he talked about who might replace him, and he
gives Marco Rubio equal time to JD Vance in his comments,
which I found very very interesting because you would think
that a president, if they're going to comment at all,
would talk up their vice president only because obviously they
picked him for a reason. I do get the esson
that he really respects Jade Vance for his intellectual abilities,
for his I mean, he defends Trump in different ways
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than Trump can defend himself.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Jade Vance has.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Another angle, another perspective, another way to bring in the
younger generation.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Very very impressive guy, without a doubt, and I.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Think Donald Trump thinks all of that himself, but he
absolutely brings up Marco Rubio when he doesn't have to.
Why I find that very interesting in context of this
conversation Ryan, is because I think Marco Rubio is the very,
very genuine, down to earth Like I sat next to
him at an event he came to in Colorado, was
able to talk to him a little bit when you
see him up there talking on the stage because he
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was the keynote speaker at this I think it was
a lunch we had in Colorado. And like he choos
his lip when he talks, like the whole I have
to drink the water, like what he became famous for. Yeah,
like that's not like, that's not fake. He doesn't come
off as some super polished I'm going to give you
the best speech in the world. Actually think he's very
very good at speaking, has become better over the years.
But like he has these normal person habits and also
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will talk to anyone who comes up to them. Super
nice guy, answer whatever question you have. And so I
wonder if Donald Trump also relates to him on the
This is a genuine guy who wants the real things
for the real right reasons, not saying Jade Vance isn't.
But he's maybe more on the Obama like intellectual elite level, a.
Speaker 5 (27:12):
Polish the polish of that, and I agree with that.
But what I was most curious to see, and that
was in the sit down interview Meet the Press with
Kristen Welker, was Trump gave you a straight up analysis like, well,
if the presidency goes well, you have to figure that JD.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
Vans is the favorite. I mean he would be.
Speaker 5 (27:27):
But then, like you said, he was very particular about
singing the praises for Little Marco And that's another one
where they were kind of our rivals there for a time,
along Ted Cruz back in twenty sixteen. But they've mended fences.
Vance has done the same. I noticed he didn't mention DeSantis.
But I think what Trump wants is, you know, to
the best man or woman go the spoils.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
There's no anointed one in his movement, and I think
that's the right way to go, right It is right?
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Ryan?
Speaker 3 (27:53):
All right, I'm Christy Burton Brown with Ryan here on
the Dan Kapli Show. When we come back and we
give you a final thought from Representative Ryan Zalez, one
of the stars of this legislative session, on how illegal
immigration is hurting legal immigrants here in Colorado based on
the Democrat policies.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
You're on the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
And now back to the Dan Kaplass Show podcast.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
All right, well, Ryan, I have to say I did
not know there was a song that was about immigration. You,
as I always say, I always surprise you about songs,
which reminds me I need to ask you for a
hockey playlist of songs. Oh wow, because my son is
starting hockey tomorrow, hockey camp that'll go for eight weeks, thankfully,
not all day long.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Okay, eight weeks.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
But he's super into hockey now, playing street hockey and
do ice hockey, and he's like, Mom, you have to
find me hockey songs.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
So yes, I think you're the right guy.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
So I'm here, hustle Berry.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
If any listeners have some hockey songs, you also context
them five seven, seventy three nine.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
You'll make my son very very happy.
Speaker 5 (28:50):
You have Spotify, I have Apple. It might transfer at
least you'll have the titles of nothing else. But I
will compose and compile a list tonight.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Thank you. Wow, you're on top of it. Okay, I
knew you're the right guy, of course.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
All right, Well, as we wrap up the Dan Kaplis
show tonight, I'm going to play this clip from Representative
Ryan Gonzalez. Like I said, he's one of the breakout
stars I think from this legislative session. One of the youngest,
if not the youngest legislators comes out of Greeley, homegrown
boy like grew up there and is now representing the district.
And for everyone listening who isn't such, you should try
again after you lose.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
He lost his first house race.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
After I believe, losing a congressional race before that in
a primary, but he knew he was a good person
to represent his hometown of Greeley in the state legislature,
came back and won it in a very very close
race last November. And so here he is on a
clip about the Democrats' immigration policies and how it's actually
harming legal immigrants who they would claim that they like.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
To help.
Speaker 6 (29:50):
Gonzalez, we are three hours into the debate and Senate
Bill two seventy six. We've been having a robost conversation
about some of the pros and constance policy, but the
biggest treachern we have is that we're you're spending over
half a billion dollars on illegal immigration, on documented immigrants.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
It is a concern for my community and.
Speaker 6 (30:07):
My district nearly half Hispanic, when they see that we're
treating undocumented immigrants and the better light we're providing in
the services that they don't contribute when they pay taxes.
It's not fair for the legal residents.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
Who are here who became citizens, are.
Speaker 6 (30:21):
Trying to do it the right way, and it just
as a president that people can come here undocumented and
break in the law and get handouts off the tax
payer expense, which we're not okay with. My district's not
okay with. We're going to continue to fight for this
because this is just unjust and violates federal law and
it jeopardizes our federal funds when it comes to funding
our central services like Medicaid and like our crime and infrastructure.
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Things are our points in this state and we won't
stand for it.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
That's Representative Brian Gonzalez representing Greally, breaking it down very
simply for the Democrats, not that they'll listen, but it
is those kind of messages that is actually taking Adams
County and Pueblo County here in Colorado and move the
needle more towards the Republican side of the aisle because
they see exactly what Representative Gonzalez was saying that many
of them, these are high percentage Hispanic communities in Colorado.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Many of them the voters came here legally.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
They worked their way to America, they worked their way
to become people with the right to vote. And then
they see the state of Colorado wanting to give all
these handouts to people who are here illegally. In Denver,
literally take down cameras designed to catch theft all because
they don't want Ice to get a hold of the
cameras and use it to catch anyone who's in illegal immigrants.
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Let's just let crime continue so that we protect the
presence of even criminal illegal immigrants here in our state.
They see this kind of stuff happening in communities like
Greeley in Pueblo, and that is why last November they
elected Gabe Evans, a Republican and also a Hispanic, to
represent them in Congress.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
He understands these kind of struggles.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
His grandparents came over from Mexico became legal American citizens,
and he knows the work that it takes to actually
make it work in America. And they don't want handouts
given to people who don't do it the right way.
Speaker 5 (32:06):
And you know why Representative Gabe Evans is doing a
good job. You know how we know how do we
have in a sit down interview you Derek Caraveo with
Kyle Clark of all people on nine News. You listen
to her and she is moving further and further and
further right.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Oh yeah, on.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
This issue, trying well.
Speaker 5 (32:25):
I might not necessarily personally agree with these policies, but
that's what my constituents want.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
So that's how I'm going to vote.
Speaker 5 (32:32):
To which I would say, why would I vote for
the person that has to fake it when I can
vote for the guy who actually believes it well.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
Exactly and who didn't have to shift his view to
match his constituents, but actually lives there and knows listens
to people, knows what they think, and gave up into
particular being a member of law enforcement, member the military,
which is a similar background of many people in CD eight.
And then you look down in Peblo, where you see
a similar component of voters down there, they for the
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first time elected, at least the first time that I'm
aware of, elected a majority of Republican city council, a
Republican mayor, and a Republican DA I believe it's this
first time Pueblo has ever had all of those flip conservative.
And again it's this Hispanic high Hispanic population district in
Colorado who sees the liberal policies of the state, which
which you know, the liberals would claim, oh, we're helping
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this population, and they're like, no, you're not. We're voting
against your policies because you're not actually helping us. You
are penalizing us for doing it the legal way, while
you welcome in all these people that are actually making
our communities less safe, less affordable. And I think one
of the key illustrations of this this bill we've been
talking about through this whole show today that I think
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is still making its way through the state legislature remains
to be seen.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
A police will sign it or not.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
Would penalize local governments, probation officers, members of the judiciary,
and members of the legislative branch for working with izer
the Department of Homeland Security, even if they're dealing with criminals,
would penalize them by fifty thousand dollar per violation. Where
would that money go not to local governments, not to communities,
not to generally tax payers across the state, but to
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an immigrant defense fund. That is where that fifty thousand dollars,
every single fifty thousand dollars they collect, would go to.
While at the same time, the liberals and the legislature
claim they have a shortfall, claim they can't fund education,
claim they might be at risk of not funding Medicaid
and Medicare depending what the federal government does and possibly
penalizes Colorado for its sanctuary state laws, for its waste
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and abuse and fraud in Medicare and Medicaid payments. They
don't say, oh, hey, we're going to use this fifty dollars,
fifty thousand dollars fine to benefit all the citizens of Colorado.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Nope, We're going to use it for an immigrant defense fund.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Like I don't know, how much more clear are the
people in charge of Colorado could make it that they
are not focused on average citizens. Instead, they're focused on
welcoming people who come here illegally, including and sometimes especially
those who commit crimes. And we wonder why gangs, foreign
gangs are making Denver their headquarters and why the White
House is suing the state of call around. I think
we have our answers. Christie Britton Brown, you've been on
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The Dan Kaplas Show. Thanks Ryan, thanks Kelly for your help,
and thank you all for listening. Appreciate your time. Keep
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
We're listening to the Dan Tabla's Show.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
I'm Christy Burton Brown and for Dan today since he
is in trial. We were talking about right before we
took a break, we were talking about Christinome being in
front of Congress giving testimony and how so many of
the liberals on the committee just want to cut her
off when she says like two words to answer them.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
All they want to be like, is reclaiming my time?
Reclaiming my time, stop filibustering. I will not let you
take my time to philibuster. I mean, it's like they're
trying to provoke a cat fight, so to speak.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
He's filibustering during that time.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
I know, oh they are, oh oh, and what I
actually love.
Speaker 3 (00:46):
And I'm not the world's biggest fan of Christinome for
a variety of reasons, but I will give her so
much credit for how she handled that hearing in many ways,
and I didn't see every moment of it.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
I don't know if any of the rest of you
is it either.
Speaker 3 (00:58):
Usually I listened to a little little peace it because
it just takes so many hours and I have.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Life like most of us do.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
But she reminded me in some ways of Amy Cony
Barrett when she's when she sat there very professional, sometimes
continued to give her answer even when they tried to
cut her off.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
But she did not get mad.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
She did not fight back, even when they were trying
to provoke her into some sort of fight or demand
that she only answer the way they insisted she answer.
She did her job. She said, here's the actual answer.
She got asked one question about this house. And I
think it was in Oklahoma, and there was there's a
raid on the house.
Speaker 2 (01:33):
And I think it involved illegal immigrants.
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Not one hundred percent sure all the details there, but anyway,
the Democrat congressman was making a big issue out of
it and saying, if you find out that these people
it was a mom and her two kids who were
forced out on the lawn in the rain when they
in the middle of the night when they raided her house,
and if you find out that there was nothing there,
are you going to.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Make sure she gets all her property back.
Speaker 3 (01:57):
And so Christino, I'm very calmly said the reason they
were raiding that house and had a warrant to do so,
it wasn't against the mom and her children. It was
against the house, and the house was known to be
a place where human trafficking was occurring, and that is
why they deierated the house. Yeah, the congresswoman did really
have a huge response back to that, because those are
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the simple, hardcore facts like I'm sorry a mom and
her daughters got caught up in that and had to
I don't know, be out on their lawn at night
in a rainstorm. I mean, probably more important to go
catch human traffickers and find evidence in the house to
catch them than for someone to have to be on
their lawn in the.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Rain for a little bit.
Speaker 3 (02:35):
But I will say major kudos to Christy nom for
being able to hold it together in spite of how
many of the liberal women who are congressmen treat her.
Another important thing that I think she brought attention to
is that the federal government is looking at potentially reforming
or changing or completely altering FEMA. Never know exactly how
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far President Trump is going to take it, but he's
considering taking FEMA and returning a lot of the power
to the states and saying, you decide how you want
to handle emergencies and natural disasters that happen in your state.
I believe the federal government would still provide money and
other resources when natural disasters happen, but instead of federal
government coming in and kind of like running the operation,
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which is often what FEMA does, returning more power to
the states. One of the congress women very very offended
by that idea and be like, oh, what are the
problems with FEMA, Why would.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
They do that?
Speaker 3 (03:27):
And Christinome responded, she said, well, there are actually requests
still open at FEMA from Hurricane Katrina that still have
not been resolved, people who still haven't been given the
money that they were supposed to be awarded during Hurricane Katrina.
So clearly FEMA is not doing its job and being competent. Now,
when we talk about Donald Trump and his you know,
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his administration's desire to return many things to the states,
I think on occasion his administration is talking out of
two sides of their mouth. Now, I'm a huge fan
of returning many things to the states, education, Department of Education,
close it down, return a lot of the education power
to the states. I still think there should be some
federal funding, of course, especially of key programs to the
states when it comes to education. But you tell me
(04:09):
the layers of bureaucracy and administration created by federal Department
of Education when the federal government doesn't actually run education
in the first place. And states are unique and local
districts are unique. So I'm a big fan in general
of returning more power to the states. But it's a
very odd thing that the Trump administration recently did that
Senator Josh Holly was actually speaking out against the Department
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of Justice actually sided with Biden administration rules in a
very key federal case going on right now about the
FDA's regulation or really lack of regulation on the abortion pills.
The DOJ under President Trump actually filed a brief, fairly
scathing brief against the states who are trying to say that, hey,
like our states don't allow abortion pills. Other states have
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companies that are like mailing these pills into our state.
We have standing to sue the FDA and say you
need to crack down on you need to have better regulations.
Women are being injured, women are being hurt. The Trump
administration came in against the states to try to say
they didn't have standing and couldn't bring a case like this.
So basically Trump administration defending Biden era rules that are
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allowing abortion pills to be available online over mail, and
we actually do see a lot of women actually dying
from planned parenthood clinics that are mailing abortion pills across
state lines without ever seeing the women in person, so
they're not determining how far along in pregnancy they are.
Women are taking it way further out than they should.
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Of course, I don't think she'd ever take it, but
I'm saying, even when you're all you're looking at is
the women's health, it's way further out for her own
health than she should.
Speaker 2 (05:42):
Be taking it.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
And women are dying from this, and yet the Trump
administration is siding with Biden era regulations. I find that
to be very troubling, especially if in general Trump administration
is going to come down on the side of states,
will then come down on the side of states that
want to prevent this kind of interstate commerce that is
really damaged and heart and harming their citizens. So and
I would also expect the Trump administration to want to
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change FDA regulations that are really really outdated and dangerous
on the abortion pill. More credit to Senator Josh Holly
though he is sponsoring a bill in the Senate. I
think it just dropped today that would actually require the
FDA to change their regulations on the abortion pill, also
allow women to sue these mail order places that are
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really mishandling their health and mishandling the mailing of abortion pills.
And it would ban abortion pills from being sold to
American women from overseas companies where there's a lot of
a lot of danger going on there. So he is
proposing a really good bill there in the Senate. I
hope it gets through and gets some good support. When
we look at other things going on to the federal level,
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we also see that now the Pentagon is reviewing Pete
Hegsett's use of the signal app That is a scandal
that just doesn't seem to want to.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Die, person after person.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
I mean, they're getting rid of one person getting the
next person in investigating this person investigating that person. I mean,
I think what the big picture here is, if you
are running the Department of Defense or you are involved
in running the Department of Defense. We deal of top
secret issues at the Department of Defense, and you should
probably know that if you are using or any of
your people are using an encrypted app like Signal, you
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don't just randomly invite people in without knowing exactly who
they are.
Speaker 2 (07:24):
Now, do I know who's false all this was?
Speaker 4 (07:25):
No?
Speaker 3 (07:26):
I do not. I am not at the Pentagon, I
am not doing the investigations, but it is very clear
that in some way that was really mishandled with a
media being brought into a signal string run by the
Department of Defense. So I don't really know who's ultimately
at fault, but it is definitely the scandal that keeps
on giving, and now Pete heeg Seth being looked into
by the Pentagon. Ryan, do you have an opinion on
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what the final outcome of this should be and when
it's going to actually end.
Speaker 4 (07:51):
Well, I think we.
Speaker 5 (07:51):
Saw kind of a peak a portion of that. I
spoke with Reagan Reese, who is the White House correspondent
for The Daily Caller, and I think she was pretty
much on the nose that Mike Waltz being basically sidelined.
I mean he was demoted, let's call it what it is,
from Trump's enter circle as National Security advisor, and now
he's going to be the US Ambassador to the United Nations,
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a role that at least Stephonic was going to fill.
It's a way to kind of get him out of
the way without embarrassing him. And there's no excuse in
my mind. And when it happened, KBB, I don't know
if I talk to you about it, but whether it
was Waltz himself or somebody on his watch, it came
from his office and somebody leaked that to one of
the most antagonistic members of the media and the Atlantic,
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to Donald Trump's So to me, it doesn't even matter.
Was it intentional, was it accidental? How does it happen
at all?
Speaker 2 (08:41):
You can it can't happen Department Defense.
Speaker 5 (08:43):
And that's why I don understand why Waltz wasn't summarily
dismissed at that point and send a message to the rest.
Speaker 4 (08:48):
Now, as far as Hegseth.
Speaker 5 (08:50):
Goes, it's been a much different reaction, if you notice,
from Donald Trump he is basically stonewalled the media and
said no, Pete's doing a great job.
Speaker 4 (08:57):
Recruitment numbers are up. We don't want to get rid
of him.
Speaker 5 (09:00):
But what I think exposes is Pete's lack of kind
of familiarity with how things work inside Washington.
Speaker 4 (09:09):
And this is one of those downfalls.
Speaker 5 (09:10):
And just to me an utter lapse and judgment that
you would even risk any kind of security breach and
use this app in an inappropriate way of family members.
I don't really understand it, and I don't know what
the answer is going to be.
Speaker 3 (09:24):
Yeah, No, I think that's a good insight things for
sharing that, Ryan. We'll talk about another policy that just
got upheld by the Supreme Court for President Trump's Department
of Defense, or it didn't get upheld, a stay got
removed from it with transgender people in the military. I'll
update you on that when we come back on the
dan CAPLA Show. I'm Kristy Burton Brown. You can text
your thoughts five seven, seven, three nine.
Speaker 4 (09:45):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
Welcome back to the dan CAPLA Show. I'm Christy Burton Brown.
I am so sorry to this Texter saying I talk
so fast, slow down. I will tell you a great
story about that though, and I apologize that I probably
will never talk Oh that is sadly just not me.
It is the most common common comments I always get.
But I don't know if I've ever told you this story, Ryan,
But so I think I have feel like I have.
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But I'm sure there's someone out there listening that's never
heard it. My husband loves audio books. He listens to
them at three or four time speed, which which is insane.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
It's insane. I'm not an audio learner. He is and
probably the smartest person I've ever met in my life.
But I asked him, like, how in the world do
you do it? And he's like, Christy, it's because I
live with you and I listened to Utah.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
So I learned it from you.
Speaker 5 (10:30):
Well, we had last time you filled in the speed
talker who said like the Guinness Book of World Records
on the Exactly TV commercial.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
So I don't know that you're that fast. I think
the pace is good. You know.
Speaker 5 (10:42):
It would be interesting though, Well it would be interesting
is if you co hosted a show with John caldera
Independence Institute and like the counter.
Speaker 4 (10:54):
Yeah, you know styles.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
I admit that I probably couldn't sit there too long
without interrupting.
Speaker 2 (10:59):
That is like one of my first policies.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
If you're talking so slow and I'm also tracking with
you and I know where you're going, I'm probably going
to jump in, like you.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Know, like let's let's go here. I can't I can't sit.
Speaker 5 (11:09):
But I think that that syncopated, staccato style that you
have is really well suited for radio because people want
to hear PEPPI.
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Well, you know, it depends on what move they're in.
Do they want to be like put to sleep on
their drive home, I got nore or do.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
They want to stay awake. I will keep you away.
Well that I can do for.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
You gladly, Yes, but I do since we were moving
on to federal issues, I do want to talk about
and you got everyone knows. I like following the Supreme
Court and they're almost at the end of their term.
They'll finish deciding all the big cases that still have yet.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
To come down by the end of June, and then.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
They'll take a break over the summer where they still
hear emergency positions. They still decide sometimes which cases they're
going to take starting in the fall for the fall term,
but you don't see decisions coming out other than you know,
really big emergency ones over the summer. So transgenders in
the military. That is a policy that the President Trump
tried to undo and said, hey, the middle is not
going to have transgender people serving in the military. There
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is a lower federal court that put a stay on
that and said, no, you actually can't make that order
right now. We're going to put a stay on your
order until this case passes all the way through. Trump
administration appealed that to the U. S. Supreme Court and
asked them to remove this stay so that the executive
order could stay in effect while the case made its
way through the system.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
And just this morning, the US Supreme.
Speaker 3 (12:22):
Court did actually reverse that stay in a six to
three decision. So I think you can probably imagine the
makeup of the six to three decision. The three liberals
of course wanting to keep this stay in place, and
all six of the more conservative and moderate members of
the court siding with the Trump administration. And I think
it's right because no matter what your position is on
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transgenders in the military, like the president can make executive orders,
especially when it comes to the military, he is the
commander in chief. This isn't something he has to run
through Congress, and so too often, all too often in
today's modern world, every time a president makes an executive
order that the side doesn't like, they run to court,
like put a.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Stay on this, stop him from doing it, Like we can't.
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Have these executive orders. So, guys, that's what happens. When
the majority of the country elects a president. That president
has something called executive power and he gets to make
executive orders. Now on occasion, are those misused? Are they
overplayed by either side of the aisle? Of course, I'd
say mostly by the left, but they absolutely are. But
there is a principle here that says a president with
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executive power can make executive orders. And so that's kind
of where the Supreme Court came down. Often when they
either lift or grant stays, they don't write big, long decisions.
They kind of just say, here's what the court's doing,
here's the justices who wouldn't have done it, and that's
about all you get.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
So we'll eventually have to find.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Out what the federal Court's actually actual reasoning is and
if it goes up to the US Supreme Court, what
they're actually reasoning is. But for now, they at least
think that President Trump has the ability to make that
executive order. Another movie is back down to the state level. Now,
another big piece of news that's very relevant to a
lot of Colorado voters. That happened also this morning. We
talked about it at the very beginning of the show
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at four o'clock, But for those of you just tuning
into this hour, I want to make sure you get this.
The TABOR lawsuit that the legislature was going to file
died in the state House this morning. It's very good
news for all voters in Colorado, seventy percent of whom
support our taxpayer's Bill of Rights. There was looming over
this session the threat of a resolution brought by a
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state representative in Denver Shock there to fight to order
the legislature to file a lawsuit in court saying that
the Taxpayer's Bill of Rights commonly called TABOR, was unconstitutional.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Now, this legislator didn't care.
Speaker 3 (14:39):
There was already a ten year long saga in federal
courts where people already suit over TABOR. Instead, it was unconstitutional,
and they lost. The federal court said it is constitutional.
It's totally fine for the Colorado Constitution to have a
taxpayer bill of rights that works exactly this way.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
They can in.
Speaker 3 (14:54):
Fact restrain legislative spending and put a cap on it
like that is okay, That is constitutional, a democratic republican
form of government. And this legislator wanted the House to
pass another lawsuit because he thought he could win if
he took it to state court. But thankfully that died
this morning in the House isn't even going to take
an actual vote on it. So that shows you how
little support the resolution actually had despite all the talk
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that surrounded it good good news, and I guess we
have to pick out the few good news that we
actually get in the legislative session in Colorado, which thankfully
is going to be at an end by midnight tomorrow.
But it certainly brought us a lot of disastrous bills.
That is one of the few bright spots that a
lot of our legislators did work towards and make sure
that TABOR was at least protected in that way where
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our taxpayer funds don't have to be used to sue
us and take away our taxpayer bill of rights in
a very convoluted mix. When we talk about Denver, since
the representative bringing that, well, who wanted to bring.
Speaker 2 (15:52):
That lawsuit was from Denver.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
Denver did something else very interesting that I think proves
where their allegiance is. They decided to get rid of
a bunch of installed cameras that were designed originally to
stop theft. You know, crime levels have been rising in
Denver and they, you know, had a brilliant idea, let's
put cameras everywhere, let's watch people will be able to
help stop theft. Well, now Denver City Council has voted
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to remove those cameras.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
But here's their reason.
Speaker 3 (16:19):
Not because they've actually fixed theft, not because they found
a better way to crack down on crime, but because
ICE might get a hold of these cameras and their
recordings and be able to catch illegal immigrants.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Literally their reasoning right.
Speaker 5 (16:35):
They understand and I have to believe that they do.
And that makes it even worse. Did they understand who
they're protecting? And the better question of that would be
why why are they protecting these criminals or the likes
of Kilmar Abrago Garcia.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
But I understand to a point.
Speaker 5 (16:54):
You know, you want to repopulate the United States with
illegal aliens because they're indebted to Democrats, because you're give
them all these freebies, and you need to replenish the
voting supply because your policies.
Speaker 4 (17:04):
Don't work and they're not popular.
Speaker 5 (17:06):
But I don't understand what you know, what how about
the criminal legal aliens too, Let's protect them?
Speaker 4 (17:12):
Oh I know, I know.
Speaker 3 (17:13):
And here, if you think of it as a choice, like, hey,
let's leave these cameras in place that we were using
and originally designing to crack down on theft to help
the citizens of our city actually, you know, not get
their cars stolen, actually recover items that were stolen from them,
Like let's get let's get criminals on camera and catch them,
so we crack down on crime and make Denver a
safer place to live.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
Okay, good, good motivation. You're trying to protect your people.
Speaker 3 (17:36):
Well, now that is now outweighed by the fact that
they so badly do not want to help ICE. It's
not as if ICE or the federal government has even
come in and said, hey, give us recordings from your cameras.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
We're going to use them.
Speaker 3 (17:47):
It is literally based on the suspicion and the theory
that ICE might come in and ask for access to
these cameras, and so They're literally elevating their desire to
keep illegal immigrants. Many of them are criminals in Denver
because gang have made it their headquarters due to the
welcoming policies, they would rather help them than crack down
on crime along citizens.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
That gives you a picture of where Denver's at right now.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
I'm Christy Burton Brown. You're on the Dan Capla Show.
Keep texting your thoughts. I have more to go through.
Five seven, seven, three nine, or call in over the
break eight five five four zero five eight two five five.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
You're on the Dan Caplis Show.
Speaker 4 (18:23):
You're listening to the Dan Kapliss Show podcast.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
You're on the Dan Caplas Show.
Speaker 4 (18:28):
I'm Christy Burton Brown.
Speaker 3 (18:29):
I want to get to one of our texters questions,
but Ryan, first, I have a question for you. So,
I I'm not sure if you talked about this on
your show earlier, but with Trump's announcement that he wants
to reopen Alcatraz, so like my parents took me there
when I was a baby, and for real, you've been
to Alcatraz. I don't remember it, but I have this
picture of me and my mom on the boat or
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the ferry whatever, it is because I was born in California.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
I'm one of those people born in my San.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Francisco and so my parents has a baby to have
y' all wrapped up in this little blanket. My mom
is finally really holding me on the ferry touring Alcatraz
and so obviously not a very nice place. And I
like the idea that he wants to open this for
like some of the worst of the worst criminals. Mostly
I like his reasoning no one has ever escaped. But
what do you think it costs? Actually lots of money
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I think to make it a real prison.
Speaker 5 (19:17):
Well, I don't think i'm speaking out of turn here,
but I have this exchange with John Fabricatory, who I
think is an expert on such matters. It is, and
he said, I'm not sure how I feel about it.
To redo that place will cost billions. We have the
ad X here in Colorado. We have a lot of
space in the Bureau of Prisons facilities right now. So
it sounds like fabs a little against it. I like
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the symbolism of it. This is the broader point where
I pick up what Trump's putting down. I think you
do too, And I think a lot of our listeners
do as well. There's two purposes to this. It sends
a message Alcatraz is back open for business, and we're
going to be tough on crime, and if you commit
the most horrendous, heinous crimes, we're going to put you
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there on the rock on the island getting off. So
it's the symbolism of it. But the other thing that
it does, and it did it again, and it's right
his rain, and it's just like clockwork. Donald Trump drives
the news cycle. These master I thought, these simpletons on
CNN and MSNBC, they don't follow John Fetterman's advice when
he told we can't be like a cat with a
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red laser and jump around and follow every little single
thing that Donald Trump does.
Speaker 4 (20:27):
And they did it again.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
Would be terrible because anything Trump says, well, then the
opposite has to be the correct view.
Speaker 4 (20:35):
And he just he just plays them.
Speaker 5 (20:37):
He's like the Godfather's symbol with the marionette strings, right,
he plays the media.
Speaker 4 (20:42):
And this was another example of that.
Speaker 1 (20:43):
Well.
Speaker 3 (20:43):
And I always wonder because there are so many things
a president is involved with that one time by nature
of running the country, and that kind.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Of is the way it happens. What is he actually
doing that they're not paying.
Speaker 3 (20:52):
Attention to, because he's like, you know, I come over here,
pay attention to what I'm making the noise about while
I go do all these.
Speaker 4 (20:59):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
Yes, and they don't listen to him, and I'm glad
that they don't. But there are clarion calls coming from
the likes of Bill Maher as well, who's no friend
of Donald Trump's. But he said he had a great time,
and I thought it was so illuminating that he sat
there Bill Maher. I mean, this is a crusty old codger,
a traditional liberal leftist. That's fine, But he said he
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felt more comfortable being himself, saying what he thought, just
kind of shooting the breeze, hanging out with Donald Trump
than he ever did with Barack Obama or with Bill Clinton.
And with Barack Obama, this is a guy Obama that
mar Is aligned with politically. But he had to beg
and plead for Obama to come on his show, and
he only did it in his eighth year in office,
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toward the very end of his term, and it was
invite to the White House only is very stuffy sure,
and he said he didn't feel comfortable. He didn't feel
personal connection with Obama and he felt that with Trump,
which is really bad for the hashtag.
Speaker 4 (21:55):
Trump is hitler crowd.
Speaker 2 (21:57):
Well, and I think there's two reasons for that.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
One.
Speaker 3 (21:59):
I think Trump is a reality TV person himself. He's
very comfortable, like in front of the camera. I mean,
you see how he interacts with reporters when he does
these one on one sit downs. Loves to be like,
I am giving you an advantage and whatever heard your
name before?
Speaker 4 (22:10):
I mean, like Terry Moran.
Speaker 2 (22:12):
He just like that's how he talks like and it's second.
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Nature to him because he literally is a reality TV
star himself, so not shy in front of the cameras.
I also think, though, that he is a far more just,
down to earth, regular guy who happened to be very
good at business and make a lot of money and
come from a successful family and all of that.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
But he is not a typical politician.
Speaker 3 (22:31):
Barack Obama, before becoming president, was a state senator, was
a US senator, is a lawyer, and how I'm a lawyer,
so I like lawyers, but is a different feel to have.
An average worky guy businessman created his own way in
the world and a more intellectual elite who becomes a president.
I think Barack Obama is a more charismatic speaker than
Donald Trump.
Speaker 2 (22:52):
But Donald Trump is a more populist speaker.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
And that is what many people in America want to
hear today, as someone who identifies with them, not someone
who I don't know talks at them.
Speaker 5 (23:01):
Well, a couple points on that from historical perspective, and
his dad, Fred was big in instilling this and Donald
at a very young age. They go on work sites
and Donald would go and talk to each of the
member of the construction crew, and he was much more interested.
Speaker 4 (23:15):
In how do you do your job? You know, this
looks great, You're doing a great job. That way when
he was young, I'm sure he did. I've seen interview.
It's a little bit less so, but he's more animated
that way now.
Speaker 5 (23:25):
But when you talk to you know, like we're talking
about the salt of the earth, working class population.
Speaker 4 (23:31):
People I grew up with, I think people you grew
up with. Christy as well.
Speaker 5 (23:35):
Cindy Romero, for instance, felt an immediate personal connection with
Donald Trump and met him when he came to Aurora
there for that rally. And also you look at the
autoworkers in McComb County. These are guys that get their
hands dirty every day. And there's one in particular from
Michigan that met with Trump personally, and Donald Trump talked
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to him on a personal level, spent time with him,
brought him up on stage.
Speaker 4 (23:59):
That was the other like he's talking to the average
Joe's in the front row.
Speaker 5 (24:02):
You guys are always here, you look like you lost weight,
you've been eating better, And it's little things like that, to.
Speaker 4 (24:08):
Be all they kind of laugh it off.
Speaker 5 (24:09):
But no, that's the authentic Donald Trump, and he wants
to connect with those people. I think he's much more
impressed by those types of people than the muckety MUCKs
he's run around with who pretended to be his friends
for all those years and then turned on him politically.
I think that taught Donald Trump an important personal and
political lesson right then and there.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
And I agree with you.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
And one of the people that I got to meet
when I was a vice chairman of the state Party,
who personally knew Trump and worked with him very very closely.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
The story she would.
Speaker 3 (24:36):
Tell is like when he would go to events, he
would make a point to go in the kitchens and
talk to whoever's making the food. Go talk to the
people on the staff. He'd remember their names and go
back and talk to them later.
Speaker 4 (24:46):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
So like this isn't someone who's just like, oh, the
carameras will watch me, go talk to these people. He'd
do it because he wanted to. And those are the
kind of people he's used to talking to that he
wants to talk to. The things are the people he's representing.
Speaker 5 (24:56):
And look like you're the Easter egg role that they
had on the Monday after Easter. Sunday, he's sitting there,
he's coloring with the kids. He loved it. You could
tell he was living it up in the dullium. I
can't find a white cran. I'm not sure what to
do do I just leave it. I'm really having a
good time with this. And he's said, look over there,
you know she is, that's the first lady. She's beautiful.
Speaker 4 (25:15):
Like yeah, he was in his element with these.
Speaker 5 (25:18):
Little kids and they're just like, oh my god, it's
the president and he loves that.
Speaker 4 (25:21):
He eats it up and that's all genuine authentic. You
can't fake it.
Speaker 5 (25:25):
You can't fake it in a way that's as believable
as when you watch Donald Trump do it.
Speaker 3 (25:29):
I agree with that, and that's actually one of the
reasons that I am curious. I don't I can't figure
it out quite yet, but I've watched some of his
clips where he's talking about who might succeed him, because
obviously he's not going to have a third term, and
he's admitted that, like, no, he's not actually trying for
a third term.
Speaker 2 (25:42):
That's not allowed and it's not what he's trying for.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
But he talked about who might replace him, and he
gives Marco Rubio equal time to JD Vance in his comments,
which I found very very interesting because you would think
that a president, if they're going to comment at all,
would talk up their vice president only because obviously they
picked him for a reason. I do get the esson
that he really respects Jade Vance for his intellectual abilities,
for his I mean, he defends Trump in different ways
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than Trump can defend himself.
Speaker 2 (26:08):
Jade Vance has.
Speaker 3 (26:08):
Another angle, another perspective, another way to bring in the
younger generation.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
Very very impressive guy, without a doubt, and I.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Think Donald Trump thinks all of that himself, but he
absolutely brings up Marco Rubio when he doesn't have to.
Why I find that very interesting in context of this
conversation Ryan, is because I think Marco Rubio is the very,
very genuine, down to earth Like I sat next to
him at an event he came to in Colorado, was
able to talk to him a little bit when you
see him up there talking on the stage because he
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was the keynote speaker at this I think it was
a lunch we had in Colorado. And like he choos
his lip when he talks, like the whole I have
to drink the water, like what he became famous for. Yeah,
like that's not like, that's not fake. He doesn't come
off as some super polished I'm going to give you
the best speech in the world. Actually think he's very
very good at speaking, has become better over the years.
But like he has these normal person habits and also
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will talk to anyone who comes up to them. Super
nice guy, answer whatever question you have. And so I
wonder if Donald Trump also relates to him on the
This is a genuine guy who wants the real things
for the real right reasons, not saying Jade Vance isn't.
But he's maybe more on the Obama like intellectual elite level, a.
Speaker 5 (27:12):
Polish the polish of that, and I agree with that.
But what I was most curious to see, and that
was in the sit down interview Meet the Press with
Kristen Welker, was Trump gave you a straight up analysis like, well,
if the presidency goes well, you have to figure that JD.
Speaker 4 (27:25):
Vans is the favorite. I mean he would be.
Speaker 5 (27:27):
But then, like you said, he was very particular about
singing the praises for Little Marco And that's another one
where they were kind of our rivals there for a time,
along Ted Cruz back in twenty sixteen. But they've mended fences.
Vance has done the same. I noticed he didn't mention DeSantis.
But I think what Trump wants is, you know, to
the best man or woman go the spoils.
Speaker 4 (27:48):
There's no anointed one in his movement, and I think
that's the right way to go, right It is right?
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Ryan?
Speaker 3 (27:53):
All right, I'm Christy Burton Brown with Ryan here on
the Dan Kapli Show. When we come back and we
give you a final thought from Representative Ryan Zalez, one
of the stars of this legislative session, on how illegal
immigration is hurting legal immigrants here in Colorado based on
the Democrat policies.
Speaker 2 (28:08):
You're on the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 4 (28:11):
And now back to the Dan Kaplass Show podcast.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
All right, well, Ryan, I have to say I did
not know there was a song that was about immigration. You,
as I always say, I always surprise you about songs,
which reminds me I need to ask you for a
hockey playlist of songs. Oh wow, because my son is
starting hockey tomorrow, hockey camp that'll go for eight weeks, thankfully,
not all day long.
Speaker 2 (28:32):
Okay, eight weeks.
Speaker 3 (28:33):
But he's super into hockey now, playing street hockey and
do ice hockey, and he's like, Mom, you have to
find me hockey songs.
Speaker 2 (28:40):
So yes, I think you're the right guy.
Speaker 4 (28:42):
So I'm here, hustle Berry.
Speaker 3 (28:44):
If any listeners have some hockey songs, you also context
them five seven, seventy three nine.
Speaker 2 (28:48):
You'll make my son very very happy.
Speaker 5 (28:50):
You have Spotify, I have Apple. It might transfer at
least you'll have the titles of nothing else. But I
will compose and compile a list tonight.
Speaker 2 (29:00):
Thank you. Wow, you're on top of it. Okay, I
knew you're the right guy, of course.
Speaker 3 (29:04):
All right, Well, as we wrap up the Dan Kaplis
show tonight, I'm going to play this clip from Representative
Ryan Gonzalez. Like I said, he's one of the breakout
stars I think from this legislative session. One of the youngest,
if not the youngest legislators comes out of Greeley, homegrown
boy like grew up there and is now representing the district.
And for everyone listening who isn't such, you should try
again after you lose.
Speaker 2 (29:25):
He lost his first house race.
Speaker 3 (29:27):
After I believe, losing a congressional race before that in
a primary, but he knew he was a good person
to represent his hometown of Greeley in the state legislature,
came back and won it in a very very close
race last November. And so here he is on a
clip about the Democrats' immigration policies and how it's actually
harming legal immigrants who they would claim that they like.
Speaker 1 (29:47):
To help.
Speaker 6 (29:50):
Gonzalez, we are three hours into the debate and Senate
Bill two seventy six. We've been having a robost conversation
about some of the pros and constance policy, but the
biggest treachern we have is that we're you're spending over
half a billion dollars on illegal immigration, on documented immigrants.
Speaker 4 (30:05):
It is a concern for my community and.
Speaker 6 (30:07):
My district nearly half Hispanic, when they see that we're
treating undocumented immigrants and the better light we're providing in
the services that they don't contribute when they pay taxes.
It's not fair for the legal residents.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
Who are here who became citizens, are.
Speaker 6 (30:21):
Trying to do it the right way, and it just
as a president that people can come here undocumented and
break in the law and get handouts off the tax
payer expense, which we're not okay with. My district's not
okay with. We're going to continue to fight for this
because this is just unjust and violates federal law and
it jeopardizes our federal funds when it comes to funding
our central services like Medicaid and like our crime and infrastructure.
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Things are our points in this state and we won't
stand for it.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
That's Representative Brian Gonzalez representing Greally, breaking it down very
simply for the Democrats, not that they'll listen, but it
is those kind of messages that is actually taking Adams
County and Pueblo County here in Colorado and move the
needle more towards the Republican side of the aisle because
they see exactly what Representative Gonzalez was saying that many
of them, these are high percentage Hispanic communities in Colorado.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Many of them the voters came here legally.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
They worked their way to America, they worked their way
to become people with the right to vote. And then
they see the state of Colorado wanting to give all
these handouts to people who are here illegally. In Denver,
literally take down cameras designed to catch theft all because
they don't want Ice to get a hold of the
cameras and use it to catch anyone who's in illegal immigrants.
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Let's just let crime continue so that we protect the
presence of even criminal illegal immigrants here in our state.
They see this kind of stuff happening in communities like
Greeley in Pueblo, and that is why last November they
elected Gabe Evans, a Republican and also a Hispanic, to
represent them in Congress.
Speaker 2 (31:51):
He understands these kind of struggles.
Speaker 3 (31:53):
His grandparents came over from Mexico became legal American citizens,
and he knows the work that it takes to actually
make it work in America. And they don't want handouts
given to people who don't do it the right way.
Speaker 5 (32:06):
And you know why Representative Gabe Evans is doing a
good job. You know how we know how do we
have in a sit down interview you Derek Caraveo with
Kyle Clark of all people on nine News. You listen
to her and she is moving further and further and
further right.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
Oh yeah, on.
Speaker 4 (32:23):
This issue, trying well.
Speaker 5 (32:25):
I might not necessarily personally agree with these policies, but
that's what my constituents want.
Speaker 4 (32:30):
So that's how I'm going to vote.
Speaker 5 (32:32):
To which I would say, why would I vote for
the person that has to fake it when I can
vote for the guy who actually believes it well.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
Exactly and who didn't have to shift his view to
match his constituents, but actually lives there and knows listens
to people, knows what they think, and gave up into
particular being a member of law enforcement, member the military,
which is a similar background of many people in CD eight.
And then you look down in Peblo, where you see
a similar component of voters down there, they for the
(33:00):
first time elected, at least the first time that I'm
aware of, elected a majority of Republican city council, a
Republican mayor, and a Republican DA I believe it's this
first time Pueblo has ever had all of those flip conservative.
And again it's this Hispanic high Hispanic population district in
Colorado who sees the liberal policies of the state, which
which you know, the liberals would claim, oh, we're helping
(33:21):
this population, and they're like, no, you're not. We're voting
against your policies because you're not actually helping us. You
are penalizing us for doing it the legal way, while
you welcome in all these people that are actually making
our communities less safe, less affordable. And I think one
of the key illustrations of this this bill we've been
talking about through this whole show today that I think
(33:43):
is still making its way through the state legislature remains
to be seen.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
A police will sign it or not.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
Would penalize local governments, probation officers, members of the judiciary,
and members of the legislative branch for working with izer
the Department of Homeland Security, even if they're dealing with criminals,
would penalize them by fifty thousand dollar per violation. Where
would that money go not to local governments, not to communities,
not to generally tax payers across the state, but to
(34:09):
an immigrant defense fund. That is where that fifty thousand dollars,
every single fifty thousand dollars they collect, would go to.
While at the same time, the liberals and the legislature
claim they have a shortfall, claim they can't fund education,
claim they might be at risk of not funding Medicaid
and Medicare depending what the federal government does and possibly
penalizes Colorado for its sanctuary state laws, for its waste
(34:30):
and abuse and fraud in Medicare and Medicaid payments. They
don't say, oh, hey, we're going to use this fifty dollars,
fifty thousand dollars fine to benefit all the citizens of Colorado.
Speaker 2 (34:40):
Nope, We're going to use it for an immigrant defense fund.
Speaker 3 (34:42):
Like I don't know, how much more clear are the
people in charge of Colorado could make it that they
are not focused on average citizens. Instead, they're focused on
welcoming people who come here illegally, including and sometimes especially
those who commit crimes. And we wonder why gangs, foreign
gangs are making Denver their headquarters and why the White
House is suing the state of call around. I think
we have our answers. Christie Britton Brown, you've been on
(35:03):
The Dan Kaplas Show. Thanks Ryan, thanks Kelly for your help,
and thank you all for listening. Appreciate your time. Keep
it here tomorrow on The Dan Kapla Show
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