May 29, 2025 • 35 mins
In the first hour of today's edition of the show, Dan Caplis speaks with Alliance Defending Freedom attorney Hal Frampton to discuss Jennifer Sey and XX-XY Athletics' lawsuit against the state of Colorado.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Love our texters, love our callers more. But hey, I
get it. I get it that texting is becoming a
kind of the method of communication, which is really weird
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because when I first started doing this show, I don't
think we even add texting.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Right now, it's.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Kind of taking that over, which is fine. And as
long as people keep them short, you know, we can
whip through them. We can get ten twenty thirty men.
And I do love the variety of text two, especially
when people can keep it short. And I'm I think
I'm a really good multitasker. But once you get into
like two sentences or something, no way, no way, So
two or three someone three eight two five five the
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number Ryan. For some reason, there's a text to you
up here, A great way to start the show. If
people are gonna rip on me, why don't they call
my show? I like Prime says, I ain't hard to find.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
That's on the button bar.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Yeah, that would suggest to me a lack of courage
on the part of this Texter Dan Ryan, Dan and
Scott could be best of friends. Their personalities so smug
are similar, and they both worship Trump.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
What Scott are there? Scott Hastings? Who are they talking about?
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Scott Jennings? Oh what a compliment? Yeah, A fan of his.
Thank you for that. Yeah, yeah, I am a big
fan of his. And he's going to be the next
senator from Kentucky. Right, Well, we shall see.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
I don't want to tell you he didn't rule it out,
but I tell you he had very exclusive access. It's
Donald Trump behind the scenes after the inauguration to write
this book of his that's coming out in December. And
what I'm going to try to do is have him
kind of touch base from time to time with you
here on this program and with me as well. And
that's a question that I think you could ask him
and I hope he would answer it.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Well, yeah, I mean I assume he's going to be
the next senator from Kentucky, right, I mean, it's whoever
Trump decides.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
Well, it's not gonna be Thomas Massey then, because I
don't think Donald Trump's too fond.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Of him right now.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
No, No, but Jennings. I see Jennings's future presidential material.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
Wow, So, oh don't you. That's how I praise it.
I'm not saying no, I just hadn't really thought about that.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Yeah, yeah, no, I think he really is. And man,
it's so exciting to just think about how stacked the
GOP is with young talent. Oh yeah, I mean, can
you imagine that primary in twenty eight? And listen, I
don't want to scare everybody way, nobody wants to start
talking about twenty twenty eight presidential cycle.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
But you can do it now, you know, with real
smile on your.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Face when you think about you got jd Vance, obviously,
you got Rubio and there is a whole bunch of
other talent there and what do they have on the
other side this guy?
Speaker 2 (03:04):
But hey, finally they've hit on a winning strategy.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Right.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
So, as the Bee said, that the.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Democrats strategy now to reach men is Pete buddhaj Edge
growing a beard. Have you seen his beard? Yeah, yeah, no,
it looks he's.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
Also a carpetbagger who left Indiana because he'd never win
there a red state, and there are rumors that he's
going to run for the Senate in Michigan. I wanted
to get out of my state.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Hmm.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
I'm not sure he will.
Speaker 5 (03:31):
Of course, we should be talking about how, Yeah, if
you know, Speaker Johnson got his way, it wouldn't be possible,
not just for gay people to get married, but for
straight people to get divorced, let alone life birth control
or how he would want to regulate porn or whatever
people most people would have a problem with.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Well, that is a great platform for the Dems now, right,
gay marriage and porn. I mean, but the point there
being and what's so intriguing, And I sure hope they
keep doing this because they really think it works, right,
But these blatant, gross obvious lies And I understand, you know,
for a lot of people in it, politics is a
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dirty game, and they do lie about their opponents, and
they do spin things to the point where it really crosses.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
The line into blatant deception.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
But I'm a firm believer, and part of this comes
from being a Democrat for a lot of years, and
my extended family outside of Colorado all Democrats that I
know of, and if somebody wasn't, they wouldn't admit it.
But the point being that you've got a lot of
Democrats out there who are good, decent people, and they
have good, solid morals in a sense of right and wrong.
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And anybody with any kind of morality, anybody who and
I can only speak to being Christian because that's what
I am.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
But I'm sure there are other faiths.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Obviously are Jewish brothers and sisters, but plenty of other
faiths that are rooted in truth. And anybody who is
a person of faith, they have to have respect for truth.
So when you get the Democrats just repeatedly now they
pride themselves. It's like they're trying to outdo each other
on how big and blatant to lie they can tell.
So when you got a guy like Buddha Jedge saying
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that you know that no speaker Johnston, what did he say?
He said, he doesn't want you to be able to
get divorced, right, things like that you can't take a
look at Playboy or whatever. Oh yeah, that is just
so obviously untrue that Democrats are just hurting themselves with
that stuff.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
So I hope they keep doing it.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
Well and go beneath the surface just a little bit.
With those comments from Buddhajede, what is that that's obviously
anti Christian rhetoric because Mike Johnson, Speaker of the House,
is known to be a man of faith, and he's
trying to caricature what Speaker Johnson's positions are on various issues,
and those being a couple. But this is my point, Dan,
you talk about twenty twenty eight, I'm willing to have
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that conversation and think about it right now. Do that
as a thought exercise, because if buddhaj Edge or let's say,
even Josh Shapiro is the best that they've gotten, they're
not able to articulate a positive message for the country,
a vision and a plan that isn't hate the Orange Man,
you know, Maggie. Republicans blah blah blah. They don't have
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that kind of soaring rhetoric.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Dan.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
That won for Bill Clinton twice, that won for Barack Obama, twice.
They don't have it, and they don't have the messenger either.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
I think Shapiro does. But here's Shapiro's problem that the
big money in the modern Democratic Party, most of it
is anti Semitic, and so you've got a big power
block in the Democratic Party right now, which is anti Israel,
anti Jewish. So that's a big problem for Shapiro. But Ryan,
I think Shapiro's wrong on all the big issues. But
I think that Shapiro is the kind of guy who
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can go out there and try to pull the con,
you know, like the Hick and Looper Khan, the Bennett
Khan that worked for a while about there's some kind
of moderate and he's a talented guy, and he's a
smart guy, so he can work the con.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
And if the GOP screws up and the GOP.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
As it's you know, BS or C game, a guy
like Shapiro might win.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
Ask you this, then let's say George Clooney throws another
one of his big fundraisers, who was he more likely
to throw it for Josh Shapiro or AOC And why, oh.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Shapiro thousand times?
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Oh yeah, yeah, Because all these guys they're just looking
for whoever's going to win, right that they just want
to be they want to have access to the winner.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
And why did they back Biden for so long? They
I mean the second time around, right, right, Hey.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
You're preaching the choir right, right, But the point being,
I mean, the point being, how were they going to
get rid of Biden? They were willing to lie to
the country, They were willing to hurt the country and
danger the country in order.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
To have their guy win. So they had access and control.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
And first of all, a guy like Biden, they're going
to have more control, right because the guy isn't competent.
But what was their alternative if he wasn't willing to
move aside?
Speaker 2 (07:49):
How do they pull a coup?
Speaker 1 (07:51):
And that's where a guy like Polis right, and he
was never going anywhere nationally, But that's where he really
missed his opening, because if somebody had shown courage there
and just stepped in and said, you know, listen, love
Joe Biden. He's been a great servant all those other lies,
but you know what, it's time to pass the torch.
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He's not able to do it anymore. All of a sudden,
you get this instant national attention and credibility, because everybody
knows the emperor has no clothes, and a guy like
Polis or somebody else like that, their stature would have
risen a lot, but they didn't have the courage to
do it. They didn't have the courage to speak the truth,
which goes back to the fact that their real commitment
is not to the good of the country or to
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the truth. It's just their own particular scheming and calculating.
And the beauty is that they just undid themselves and
the party at the same time. It's kind of poetic.
Don't you think we need to have more poetry on
this show?
Speaker 3 (08:47):
We do?
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Yeah, I hope somebody texts us some.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Either that or I can invite a poet on as
a guest if you would like.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
It depends on the poet, because really good poetry like
stuff that rhymes right, that's awesome, but not like beat poetry.
I'm open to anything, Okay, I'm an appreciator of the arts.
Three oh three seven, one, three, eight, two five five numbers.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Sorry.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
The reason I couldn't read the number is I just
had an image pop into my head and I started
laughing at myself for saying that d An five, seven,
seventh through nine, so much more to get through on
the show today. We are going to have an attorney
at four thirty six from Alliance Defending Freedom. I talked
at length about the big lawsuit they filed yesterday against
Colorado over thirteen twelve. This is great stuff, really important,
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and I think a lot of folks, even a lot
of really informed folks, don't completely understand yet just how
awful thirteen twelve is. So that'll be important at four
thirty six and much more ahead on the Dan Kaplish.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
You're listening to the Dan Kaplish Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Let's not come Back from Breaks at four twenty Okay,
I mean because I a man, Yeah, and yeah, we're
going to talk about it in a lot of different ways, right,
and the good thing is America is getting.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
Hip to it.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
But but boy, this stuff, it isn't funny anymore. It
never was, right, but just that devastation being done, particularly
to kids by marijuana legalization. But three all three someone
three eight two five five texts d An five seven, seven,
three nine. The other part of it is, you know,
part of my job, and I'm grateful and privileged to
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have my job, but part of my job is looking
at autopsy photos. In fact, I was just during the
break working on an autopsy photo issue. And you can't
get some of this stuff out of your minds, right,
and you just look at the devastation that that you know,
driving under the influence of drugs, alcohol, et cetera does.
And yeah, the idea that this state ever made that
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big mistake is extremely frustrating.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Got to find a way back.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Three or three someone three eight two five five texts
d An five seven seven, three nine. We're getting some poetry,
which I really like. We're looking for some We're looking
for some poetry. I can't read this one. Sorry, we
don't censor here, but but you are now, No, we
don't censor, but I'm not going to read racist stuff
on air.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
Well, I you know what you're saying, but it's it's factual, though,
and I'll say it this way. So if she was
not to read the whole thing, that's fine. But in
the Muslim faith and in the Jewish faith, they don't
eat pork of any kind and jeweles in pulp fiction
was famous for saying in that movie, I don't dig
swine man.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Okay, go ahead, and read it.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Oh you want me to No, I just and listen.
This is worth five seconds decades on air, prided myself,
I'm not censoring, but if I knew somebody who was
going to come out and say the N word, I'd
censor them. I'm not going to give a platform to
somebody who's going to engage in But that's.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Not even a trupe. That's actual.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
It's like saying Mormons don't drink alcohol. Right, If you
want to read it, I mean, yeah, you can let
the listeners decide and I'll I'll wear.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
It, okay if it's yeah, no, I just I just
sell the line. I don't endorse it.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
All right, said this is from Ralph, so you can
blame Itt Ralph too. Wreck Itt Ralph's that's the guy
who wrote it. It's right at the end of the text,
he says he's Ralph.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Well, that's what he's saying.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
Yeah, he says his poetry submission is roses are read
Muslims hate pork, defund the polis, I think is what
he means.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
And Bennett's a dork. Michael Bennett. I mean that was
kind of accurate if you think about it.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Hmmm. No, oh, no, no, no.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
You have such great impersonation, which is can you do me?
Speaker 6 (12:41):
Ah?
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Usually when you're gone, I do it just so people
know you're not here, but they still get a feeling
and a flavor he does.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Yeah, that's okay, I can take it.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
The best one of your go to lines that I
love is when you get caught off. Garbery said, Oh wow, Kelly,
it's kind of like that.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
What are you talking?
Speaker 6 (13:00):
Hey?
Speaker 2 (13:00):
I never get caught off guy, You know what are
you referring to?
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Like if she says something that were to.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Surprise you by Kelly, I get caught off by Kelly
all the t.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Every time.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
Right, okay, and your your kind of exclamation, Oh wow, Kelly.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
That is that's a good one. Where'd you learn to
do that? What advice would you give to those of
us out here who want to learn how to do
good impressions?
Speaker 4 (13:25):
Lose yourself. You got to lose yourself in the impression.
You got to commit to the bit, you got to
become the person. And like when I'm in.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Personally, that's why I can't dance either.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
There's a little bit of that, but like with Michael Bennett,
I'm trying to actually sound like how Michael Bennett.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Would be and when you remember he got really angry.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
At Ted Cruise, the whole classic right, bellowing elk with floods,
people lost their jobs, Ted Cruise is terrible.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
You know that. It was quite a scene.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
Yeah, it was interviewed Ted Cruz about that meltdown by
Bennett on the side.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Yeah, let's get him out, let's talk about that. You know, boy,
Joe Scarborough must listen to the show, right, because he's
pulled a one to eighty in twenty four hours, because
yesterday I was mocking him on this show and he
deserved that.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
You know.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
They're talking about you know, Putin pushing Trump around and
all this and that, and was saying, wait a second,
you have to have hate interfering with brain function to
think this is going to end well for Putin right,
that that Trump is somehow going to let him win,
not one.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Chance in a billion. So here's Scarborough today.
Speaker 7 (14:32):
The mocking of Donald Trump repeatedly by the Kremlin that
I don't know exactly how that helps some of the negotiations,
but we will see. The President has talked about two
weeks before he makes any decisions on sanctions. Obviously in
your fusion in the middle of negotiations, good faith negotiations
which needs do not appear to be.
Speaker 8 (14:52):
You don't slap sanctions on anybody. Don't use the S word. Okay,
sanctions are meaningless. I'm not saying they shouldn't happen, but
they're meaningless. They're never going to change Putin's behavior. Trump
is going to change Putin's behavior, but it's not going to.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Be through sanctions.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
It might be sanctions on the surface, but it's not
going to be through sanctions that he changes his behavior.
And we may never it may never be traceable to him,
we may never know exactly how he did it. But
if Latimer Putin is sitting there thinking he's untouchable personally,
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not if the President of the United States once you
touched so yeah, yeah, now it it is not going
to end well for Putin, this mocking of Trump. Now,
we should never have a single American boot on the
ground there, and it should not be an open ended,
endless commitment of unlimited money, nothing like that. But Putin
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is satan, as I've been saying for many years on
this show, and the fact that he has pushed it
too far with Trump, Putin wouldn't take yes for an
answer in terms of a good deal, which Putin never deserved.
But don't blame Trump for that, Blame Biden. Blame Europe
for not going in and truly backing up Ukraine.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
What do you make of Trump over the last week?
Couple things. One, he's finally come right out and criticized
Putin and says he's not happy about what's going on
on that side of the negotiations with Russia.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
He's been very careful kind of minding his p's and
q's and now not.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
And then he was asked in the Oval office about
did he give Israel kind of a what for warning, like, hey,
don't get involved in any kind of agitation of Iran
while we're trying to work out this deal, and he
disclosed that he's been very kind of upfront about those
two things.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Yeah, two things there. One is with regard to Putin,
why would anybody ever think that you could humiliate Donald
Trump publicly and get away with it?
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Right?
Speaker 1 (17:01):
So what does that tell you about Putin? I'm very
confident he's not going to get away with this. And
number two, with regard to Israel, you know, Trump's been
one of the best friends Israel has ever had. I
do have a concern right now about whether Trump is
going to do a deal that should not be done
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with Iran. It sure looks like a deal shaping up right,
and I'm anxious to see the terms, and blessed are
the peacemakers. I am all for that instead of war,
but it has to be a real piece, has to
be a true piece, has to be a genuine piece,
not just an absence of war, not with that evil
regime they think about it. I mean, it just came
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out last week and said they want to wipe Israel
off the face of the earth, which they say all
the time and they mean, but they also are holding
their own citizens hostage. Almost all of the people in
around not all, but almost all the people in Iran
are innocent victims of this evil roos. And so I
just hope I trust Trump. We're all human, we all
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make mistakes. I really hope he doesn't make a mistake
with an Iran deal. If it's a true, verifiable deal
with teeth, and we have legitimate reason to believe it's
going to end this peacefully without around getting a nuke. Fine,
but I'm concerned three or three, someone, three eight, two,
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thry nine. Quick look ahead, because this is really important
on a lot of levels. On the other side, we're
going to have the attorney who filed this tremendous lawsuit
yesterday against the State of Colorado, and it's over this
obviously unconstitutional House Bill thirteen twelve, which seeks to punish
free speech, but very specifically punish people speaking the truth.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
That's the whole point of the bill.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
And so I have the attorney from Alliance Defending Freedom
talk about where they're going to win this thing.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
And how quick you're in the Dankapla Show.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast at pey.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Line and welcome Attorney Hal Frampton to the show from
Alliance Defending Freedom. Another great and very important to your
life lawsuit filed by Alliance Defending Freedom yesterday on behalf
of xx x Y Athletics Company. We've had their CEO
on before out there doing great work. They have an
apparel line, but they also stand up for women and
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against men in women's sports.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
So hell, welcome to the Dankpla Show.
Speaker 6 (19:37):
Thanks Dan, great to be here, well.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Thank you and thank you for filing this lawsuit. I
quoted from it yesterday a bit, but great to get
it from the horse's mouth here. Can you just tell
people why thirteen twelve is unconstitutional?
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Absolutely?
Speaker 6 (19:54):
Thirteen twelve essentially prohibits businesses like XXXY Athletics from speaking
the truth about biological reality. If they say that men
are men and women are women. If they use a
male athlete's given name, or call that person a man,
or refer to him with masculine pronouns as they do
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in their social media presence and advertising all the time,
their subject to enforcement action under the law. And that's
totally unconstitutional. That's Colorado trying to tell people what to
think and what they can and can't say, and free
speeches for everyone. So we are filing this lawsuit to
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try to vindicate that right, right.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
And they go to this to me bizarre ultimate extreme
of specifically punishing people for speaking the truth. I mean,
it's mind blowing. So I said here thinking that this
may be one of the clearest easiest cases Alliance Defending
Freedom has ever done. But we all know there are
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no sure things in the legal system. Where do you
think this gets resolved? And how long is it likely
to take.
Speaker 6 (21:07):
Well, we're going to file emotion for a preliminary injunction,
essentially asking the court to step in and go ahead
and block the state from enforcing the law against XXX.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Why.
Speaker 6 (21:19):
We're hopeful that that will be granted. I mean it
should be, but hopefully we can get a good, clear
ruling as quickly as possible and protect not only XXX why,
but every other small business or business out there that
just wants to speak the truth about biological reality.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Right, and to stand up now to this strategy, this
practice by the left of punishing free speech. I mean,
they know they can't win on the science, they can't
win on the logic, they can't win on the facts,
they can't win on just a basic morality. So now
what they have to do is punish people under the
law for speaking the truth. So I love the fact
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that you and Alliance Defending Freedom are standing up to
that as well more globally. But hell, can you take
us inside a little bit some of the details of
the bill that lead to this unconstitutional outcome. Where an
employer liked your client, or I should say, a public
accommodation of business like your client cannot speak the truth.
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How does thirteen twelve mechanically accomplish that terrible purpose?
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Sure?
Speaker 6 (22:25):
Well, essentially what it does is they've added to the
definition of gender expression, which is one of the protected
categories under the law. They added this notion of having
to use a person's chosen name, whatever name they say
they want to be known by. If John wants to
be called Jane, that's what you have to say. And
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also how the individual chooses to be addressed. So if
if John says call me he or call me she,
you have to do it. And if you don't, then
that is considered discriminating on the basis of gender expression,
and it subjects the company to enforcement action.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Insane.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
And then when it comes to enforcement action, why are
companies concerned about that as they should be.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
What kind of form can that take?
Speaker 6 (23:16):
Sure that can be fined up to thirty five hundred
dollars for each violation that can be it even can
mean prosecution as a misdemeanor, a criminal offense. And again
each violation, every time you publish something that uses biologically
accurate language, that is in itself a violation. Just the
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publication is a violation. And so when you've got a
business like xxxy that is standing up every day through
their social media channels, through their advertising. Every single time
they do that, it's a potential violation.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Right right, Help frempt and our guest is the attorney
in this very important lawsuit against the State of Colorado.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Hail. We look at this case right now.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
I'm really glad you guys are seeking this preliminary injunction.
But if it does end up going all the way
to the US Supreme Court, how long is that likely
to take? And the reason I asked the question is
it seems to me the left in Colorado is into
the process as punishment they've had.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
They pass these bills, they sign them.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
They know they're unconstitutional, but they know they'll intimidate a
lot of people and they'll punish others along the way
by putting them through this long, expensive legal process. So
if it goes all the way to SCOTUS, when does.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
It get there?
Speaker 6 (24:42):
Well, all getting all the way Scotus generally takes a
couple of years. But the really good news on that
front is that the Supreme Court has taken a number
of cases from Colorado. We've got one pending right now
on behalf of councilor Kaylee Chiles, who wants to be
able to council children in accordance with biological reality, and
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of course Colorado doesn't allow that either. But the Supreme
Court is going to hear her case in the fall,
and so hopefully at some point the uh the message
gets through that that we're we're going to uh protect
Colorado's free speech rights. If it takes us years and
all the all the all the time to do it.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Well, thank god for you guys.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Literally, but but it seems like Scotus is on to
Colorado at this point, right, I mean going back to
Justice Kennedy, the Jack Phillips case that they talk about
animosity from the commission.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Hopefully the Supreme Court sees what's happening here.
Speaker 6 (25:40):
Well, certainly we hope they they they see that these
impingements on free speech cannot stand and continue to take
important cases like the child's case and.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
And this one.
Speaker 6 (25:50):
If it gets that far to protect Americans.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
From speech rights, Well, thanks for what you're doing. How
can people support Alliance Defending Freedom?
Speaker 6 (25:59):
They are welcome to go to our website ADS legal
dot org. You can read about all of our cases.
You can donate to the ministry. You can find ways
to get involved. All of the information is there, so
I would encourage people to use that resource and see
where they can plug in.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
Well, thank you man, you're appreciated and doing the work
of angels.
Speaker 6 (26:21):
Go get them all right, Thank you, Dan, Thank you.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Hell take care of that is I'm telling you right now.
They are national treasure. Alliance Defending Freedom is a national treasure.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
And I spoke with Jennifer Say, the founder and CEO
of Xxxy Athletics, earlier this week Dan, and she point
blank set even though she got a startup, she got
a good company. She was a former executive at Levi's
and San Francisco, so she's very accomplished. No way she
could embark upon this legal journey without the know of
Alliance Defending Freedom.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Yeah, but then you think of all the heroes out there, right,
and you think of her. Now you think of Glory
and three or three Creative and Jack Phillips, right, who
led the pack. I mean, these are true American heroes
because yeah, okay, so you've got a lion's defending freedom,
fighting the case, but you are still the individual going
through this really intense litigation and exposing yourself to all
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the slings and arrows from all the haters out there,
and you put yourself out there, Yeah, in part for
your own good and the good of your company, but
also for the greater good. And so I just admire
the heck out of those people. I truly think. You know,
Jack Phillips is one of the top ten heroes in
Colorado history. I mean, you have you We should have
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that talk. Who are the top ten heroes in Colorado history?
I mean, you've got Kender Castillo right up there, right
near the top, Dave and Anders.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Jack Phillips has got to be up there, got to
be up there. So I'd love to get people's take
on that. Who are the top ten heroes in Colorado history?
Three or three?
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Someone three eight, two five five. You could text d
a n five seven seven three nine. Someone who took
us up on that. Texted Dan if Donald Trump comes
out on Monday and says, Vladimir Putin is a real
bad man. We tried to negotiate, but he's doing bad.
So as of today, Ukraine will now become a member
of NATO. I love people thinking outside the box, respectfully.
(28:13):
There's zero chance that's going to happen. The US cannot
be in a ground war in Ukraine. There is no
reason for that. There should not be a single American
boot on the ground. The reason that the devil Putin
has been rewarded in Ukraine is the weakness of Biden
number one, that he saw his opening right, but also
(28:36):
the weakness of Europe, because if Europe had made it
clear from day one they were willing to put boots
on the ground in Ukraine to stop Russia, this thing
ends a long time ago, but Europe was never willing
to go there, never willing to stand up to protect
the continent, to protect a free Europe. And the evil
(28:59):
of Putin is the main cause. But the reason that
we're in this gym right now is Europe would not
step up. So I'm not sitting here saying that Trump
should do what the Texter recommends. I think there are
other ways to make Putent pay. Here on the Dan Capla.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
Show, you're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
No, absolutely, but yes, I flashed back to there used
to be these commercials, radio commercials all the time in
Colorado for Sunday number one one one one, one of
these big rock shows they used to do down the
old Mile High and some up at folsom that I
was a part of. But quick question, I think Frampton
was part of the important.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
Because of where you were, what your coming of age was,
what your collegers were.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
You lived the seventies, and I got to ask you this.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
Did you own a copy of the album Frampton Comes Alive?
Speaker 6 (29:55):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (29:55):
I hated that stuff.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
No, I shouldn't say that. I never had any Peter
Frampton wasn't into that stuff.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
But the joke is, everybody who like lived through the seventies, Yeah,
had a copy of Frampton Comes Alive.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
My mom did.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Let me start this way, I was the most boring
person ever lived through the seventies. That's the starting point
because think about what the seventies were for me. The
seventies were for me. The first half I was in
a seminary. Ye okay, okay, So my exposure to the
seventies tended to be, Oh, you know, there were these
girls from the local high schools who loved to streak
(30:29):
the seminary. So you'd get these naked girls running through
the oh you know, the fields.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
Dad, You have had more than your fair share of
encounters with random naked women in public.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Part of that is.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Part of that is like going to school in the seventies.
So the first half Seminary until seventy five, and the
second half is CU.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Boulder, right yep, okay, so that was my exposure.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
But the time I was at See You Bolder, almost
all of it, I intended to go back to the seminary.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
So I was keeping my vows.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
Oh yeah, yes, so totally different mentality miam.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Oh yeah, they weren't formal vows at that point, but
I was intending to go back.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
So no Studio fifty four for dan Kaplis.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Oh No. I had fun. I was student body president.
I mean I had fun.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
I met girls, I dated, we'd go to formals, we
do all this and that. But I intended to go
back to the seminary.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
Real straight laced.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
Yeah yeah, so anyway, Yeah, different, different way to experience
the seventies is ill saying, right, yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Very different. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
But you know one thing that's interesting they don't get
back to all this life and desk stuff is because
I I second I got there, I started running for office.
So I ran for the student Senate, knocked on every
dorm room door, and literally every dorm room door.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
They didn't all open, but almost all did. Then ran
for student.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
Body try executive because you know they're kind of split
up the presidency. And then the third time I ran
for student body president sole president, and I knocked on
every dorm room door every time, and Ryan bringing a
stack of bibles. All right, how many times knocking on
every dorm room door? And see you between nineteen seventy
(32:12):
five and nineteen eighty, how many times do you think
guys saw cocaine?
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Seven? None, none, none, not once? Wow, not once.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
You'd run into all sorts of weed and stuff like that,
but never saw a hard drug. Knocking on every dorm
room door. You'd see all sorts of other activity, but
you would never never ran into cocaine.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
Were you greeted by a naked female at the door
any of those times.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
That happened off?
Speaker 1 (32:43):
Yeah, but I mean, yeah, wow, No, it was a
different time. But I was going back to the seminary.
I wasn't.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Oh, I wasn't taking advantage.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
Of the last temptation of Dan at that time.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
No, I gotta tell you, I was at that point,
I was like so on fire to go back it.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Yeah, of course you.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Yeah, podcast, No, it's it didn't stop.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Me from knocking on every door, I.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Gotcha, Yeah, knocking on Heaven's door. Yeah, it did cause
some perplection.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
Yeah, I mean I thought the nineties were different, and
they were, oh man, I mean very.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
Buttoned down compared to the seventies.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
Oh yeah, the seventies in Bolder. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
So that's I would strongly recommend that if everybody has
the option. They lived the first half of the seventies
being in a Catholic seminary high school years you'd go
home at nights, and then the second half at CU Boulder.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
You know, you just described that could be a movie.
Just start to finish.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
You know, there might be a movie in there.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
Ninety minutes running time.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
Because I told you, I told you about the first
female I met on the ceau camp.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
Oh I know.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Yeah, that's when you go from the seminary, the first
female you meet, very nice, attractive young lady, not a
stitch of clothing, you know, I mean, but you're lucky, Doc,
go about your no oh yeah, oh yeah, I was
going back good times.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
I was going back.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
So Texters, Dan, does this all mean that if I'm
lying in a hospital vulnerable and don't refer to the
trans health worker as they demand.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
I will be prosecuted, No, because.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
The prosecution is going to be against businesses public accommodations,
which is most businesses out there, if they if they
don't lie and say that a man is a man.
Speaker 4 (34:35):
I'd be careful with that one though, because I've seen
a host of TikTok videos of healthcare workers that are
bragging about providing either the wrong medical care or no
medical care to Trump supporters, people they think are maga.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
It's out there, yeah, and obviously a real good chance
all that's fake, right because somebody be confessing to a felony.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Well, I think some people have gotten fired.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
Yeah, oh for doing the video, right Yeah, yeah, but
it would obviously be a felony, and if somebody passed
away to be murder and all that stuff. So yeah,
I think you got a lot of people just saying
things that aren't true there obviously, just to try to scare, intimidate,
harass Dan.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Thanks for owning it, Ryan the real Ralph.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
Okay, yeah, Ralph's poem.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
We were doing some poetry today, Dan, roses.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Or red violets or blue the color our GOP is
pathetically inept, and I can't wait to escape this state.
You know, first, I don't think the Colorado GOP is
pathetically inept.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
I think it's turned a corner. I think it's headed
a good direction.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
Pretty good timing, right, because there's at least one office
that you got a real shot to win, maybe two.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
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three eight two five five, then number or in English
three oh three seven to one three eight two five
five or text d an five seven seven three nine.
Love our texters, love our callers more. But hey, I
get it. I get it that texting is becoming a
kind of the method of communication, which is really weird
(00:43):
because when I first started doing this show, I don't
think we even add texting.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Right now, it's.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
Kind of taking that over, which is fine. And as
long as people keep them short, you know, we can
whip through them. We can get ten twenty thirty men.
And I do love the variety of text two, especially
when people can keep it short. And I'm I think
I'm a really good multitasker. But once you get into
like two sentences or something, no way, no way, So
two or three someone three eight two five five the
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number Ryan. For some reason, there's a text to you
up here, A great way to start the show. If
people are gonna rip on me, why don't they call
my show? I like Prime says, I ain't hard to find.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
That's on the button bar.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Yeah, that would suggest to me a lack of courage
on the part of this Texter Dan Ryan, Dan and
Scott could be best of friends. Their personalities so smug
are similar, and they both worship Trump.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
What Scott are there? Scott Hastings? Who are they talking about?
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Scott Jennings? Oh what a compliment? Yeah, A fan of his.
Thank you for that. Yeah, yeah, I am a big
fan of his. And he's going to be the next
senator from Kentucky. Right, Well, we shall see.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
I don't want to tell you he didn't rule it out,
but I tell you he had very exclusive access. It's
Donald Trump behind the scenes after the inauguration to write
this book of his that's coming out in December. And
what I'm going to try to do is have him
kind of touch base from time to time with you
here on this program and with me as well. And
that's a question that I think you could ask him
and I hope he would answer it.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Well, yeah, I mean I assume he's going to be
the next senator from Kentucky, right, I mean, it's whoever
Trump decides.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
Well, it's not gonna be Thomas Massey then, because I
don't think Donald Trump's too fond.
Speaker 3 (02:26):
Of him right now.
Speaker 1 (02:27):
No, No, but Jennings. I see Jennings's future presidential material.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
Wow, So, oh don't you. That's how I praise it.
I'm not saying no, I just hadn't really thought about that.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Yeah, yeah, no, I think he really is. And man,
it's so exciting to just think about how stacked the
GOP is with young talent. Oh yeah, I mean, can
you imagine that primary in twenty eight? And listen, I
don't want to scare everybody way, nobody wants to start
talking about twenty twenty eight presidential cycle.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
But you can do it now, you know, with real
smile on your.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
Face when you think about you got jd Vance, obviously,
you got Rubio and there is a whole bunch of
other talent there and what do they have on the
other side this guy?
Speaker 2 (03:04):
But hey, finally they've hit on a winning strategy.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Right.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
So, as the Bee said, that the.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
Democrats strategy now to reach men is Pete buddhaj Edge
growing a beard. Have you seen his beard? Yeah, yeah, no,
it looks he's.
Speaker 4 (03:20):
Also a carpetbagger who left Indiana because he'd never win
there a red state, and there are rumors that he's
going to run for the Senate in Michigan. I wanted
to get out of my state.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Hmm.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
I'm not sure he will.
Speaker 5 (03:31):
Of course, we should be talking about how, Yeah, if
you know, Speaker Johnson got his way, it wouldn't be possible,
not just for gay people to get married, but for
straight people to get divorced, let alone life birth control
or how he would want to regulate porn or whatever
people most people would have a problem with.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Well, that is a great platform for the Dems now, right,
gay marriage and porn. I mean, but the point there
being and what's so intriguing, And I sure hope they
keep doing this because they really think it works, right,
But these blatant, gross obvious lies And I understand, you know,
for a lot of people in it, politics is a
(04:10):
dirty game, and they do lie about their opponents, and
they do spin things to the point where it really crosses.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
The line into blatant deception.
Speaker 1 (04:19):
But I'm a firm believer, and part of this comes
from being a Democrat for a lot of years, and
my extended family outside of Colorado all Democrats that I
know of, and if somebody wasn't, they wouldn't admit it.
But the point being that you've got a lot of
Democrats out there who are good, decent people, and they
have good, solid morals in a sense of right and wrong.
(04:41):
And anybody with any kind of morality, anybody who and
I can only speak to being Christian because that's what
I am.
Speaker 2 (04:48):
But I'm sure there are other faiths.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Obviously are Jewish brothers and sisters, but plenty of other
faiths that are rooted in truth. And anybody who is
a person of faith, they have to have respect for truth.
So when you get the Democrats just repeatedly now they
pride themselves. It's like they're trying to outdo each other
on how big and blatant to lie they can tell.
So when you got a guy like Buddha Jedge saying
(05:12):
that you know that no speaker Johnston, what did he say?
He said, he doesn't want you to be able to
get divorced, right, things like that you can't take a
look at Playboy or whatever. Oh yeah, that is just
so obviously untrue that Democrats are just hurting themselves with
that stuff.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
So I hope they keep doing it.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
Well and go beneath the surface just a little bit.
With those comments from Buddhajede, what is that that's obviously
anti Christian rhetoric because Mike Johnson, Speaker of the House,
is known to be a man of faith, and he's
trying to caricature what Speaker Johnson's positions are on various issues,
and those being a couple. But this is my point, Dan,
you talk about twenty twenty eight, I'm willing to have
(05:50):
that conversation and think about it right now. Do that
as a thought exercise, because if buddhaj Edge or let's say,
even Josh Shapiro is the best that they've gotten, they're
not able to articulate a positive message for the country,
a vision and a plan that isn't hate the Orange Man,
you know, Maggie. Republicans blah blah blah. They don't have
(06:12):
that kind of soaring rhetoric.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
Dan.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
That won for Bill Clinton twice, that won for Barack Obama, twice.
They don't have it, and they don't have the messenger either.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
I think Shapiro does. But here's Shapiro's problem that the
big money in the modern Democratic Party, most of it
is anti Semitic, and so you've got a big power
block in the Democratic Party right now, which is anti Israel,
anti Jewish. So that's a big problem for Shapiro. But Ryan,
I think Shapiro's wrong on all the big issues. But
I think that Shapiro is the kind of guy who
(06:42):
can go out there and try to pull the con,
you know, like the Hick and Looper Khan, the Bennett
Khan that worked for a while about there's some kind
of moderate and he's a talented guy, and he's a
smart guy, so he can work the con.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
And if the GOP screws up and the GOP.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
As it's you know, BS or C game, a guy
like Shapiro might win.
Speaker 4 (07:00):
Ask you this, then let's say George Clooney throws another
one of his big fundraisers, who was he more likely
to throw it for Josh Shapiro or AOC And why, oh.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Shapiro thousand times?
Speaker 1 (07:09):
Oh yeah, yeah, Because all these guys they're just looking
for whoever's going to win, right that they just want
to be they want to have access to the winner.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
And why did they back Biden for so long? They
I mean the second time around, right, right, Hey.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
You're preaching the choir right, right, But the point being,
I mean, the point being, how were they going to
get rid of Biden? They were willing to lie to
the country, They were willing to hurt the country and
danger the country in order.
Speaker 2 (07:35):
To have their guy win. So they had access and control.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
And first of all, a guy like Biden, they're going
to have more control, right because the guy isn't competent.
But what was their alternative if he wasn't willing to
move aside?
Speaker 2 (07:49):
How do they pull a coup?
Speaker 1 (07:51):
And that's where a guy like Polis right, and he
was never going anywhere nationally, But that's where he really
missed his opening, because if somebody had shown courage there
and just stepped in and said, you know, listen, love
Joe Biden. He's been a great servant all those other lies,
but you know what, it's time to pass the torch.
(08:12):
He's not able to do it anymore. All of a sudden,
you get this instant national attention and credibility, because everybody
knows the emperor has no clothes, and a guy like
Polis or somebody else like that, their stature would have
risen a lot, but they didn't have the courage to
do it. They didn't have the courage to speak the truth,
which goes back to the fact that their real commitment
is not to the good of the country or to
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the truth. It's just their own particular scheming and calculating.
And the beauty is that they just undid themselves and
the party at the same time. It's kind of poetic.
Don't you think we need to have more poetry on
this show?
Speaker 3 (08:47):
We do?
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Yeah, I hope somebody texts us some.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
Either that or I can invite a poet on as
a guest if you would like.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
It depends on the poet, because really good poetry like
stuff that rhymes right, that's awesome, but not like beat poetry.
I'm open to anything, Okay, I'm an appreciator of the arts.
Three oh three seven, one, three, eight, two five five numbers.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
Sorry.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
The reason I couldn't read the number is I just
had an image pop into my head and I started
laughing at myself for saying that d An five, seven,
seventh through nine, so much more to get through on
the show today. We are going to have an attorney
at four thirty six from Alliance Defending Freedom. I talked
at length about the big lawsuit they filed yesterday against
Colorado over thirteen twelve. This is great stuff, really important,
(09:29):
and I think a lot of folks, even a lot
of really informed folks, don't completely understand yet just how
awful thirteen twelve is. So that'll be important at four
thirty six and much more ahead on the Dan Kaplish.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
You're listening to the Dan Kaplish Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (09:53):
Let's not come Back from Breaks at four twenty Okay,
I mean because I a man, Yeah, and yeah, we're
going to talk about it in a lot of different ways, right,
and the good thing is America is getting.
Speaker 3 (10:03):
Hip to it.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
But but boy, this stuff, it isn't funny anymore. It
never was, right, but just that devastation being done, particularly
to kids by marijuana legalization. But three all three someone
three eight two five five texts d An five seven, seven,
three nine. The other part of it is, you know,
part of my job, and I'm grateful and privileged to
(10:25):
have my job, but part of my job is looking
at autopsy photos. In fact, I was just during the
break working on an autopsy photo issue. And you can't
get some of this stuff out of your minds, right,
and you just look at the devastation that that you know,
driving under the influence of drugs, alcohol, et cetera does.
And yeah, the idea that this state ever made that
(10:48):
big mistake is extremely frustrating.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Got to find a way back.
Speaker 1 (10:52):
Three or three someone three eight two five five texts
d An five seven seven, three nine. We're getting some poetry,
which I really like. We're looking for some We're looking
for some poetry. I can't read this one. Sorry, we
don't censor here, but but you are now, No, we
don't censor, but I'm not going to read racist stuff
on air.
Speaker 4 (11:12):
Well, I you know what you're saying, but it's it's factual, though,
and I'll say it this way. So if she was
not to read the whole thing, that's fine. But in
the Muslim faith and in the Jewish faith, they don't
eat pork of any kind and jeweles in pulp fiction
was famous for saying in that movie, I don't dig
swine man.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Okay, go ahead, and read it.
Speaker 1 (11:34):
Oh you want me to No, I just and listen.
This is worth five seconds decades on air, prided myself,
I'm not censoring, but if I knew somebody who was
going to come out and say the N word, I'd
censor them. I'm not going to give a platform to
somebody who's going to engage in But that's.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
Not even a trupe. That's actual.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
It's like saying Mormons don't drink alcohol. Right, If you
want to read it, I mean, yeah, you can let
the listeners decide and I'll I'll wear.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
It, okay if it's yeah, no, I just I just
sell the line. I don't endorse it.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
All right, said this is from Ralph, so you can
blame Itt Ralph too. Wreck Itt Ralph's that's the guy
who wrote it. It's right at the end of the text,
he says he's Ralph.
Speaker 3 (12:16):
Well, that's what he's saying.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
Yeah, he says his poetry submission is roses are read
Muslims hate pork, defund the polis, I think is what
he means.
Speaker 3 (12:26):
And Bennett's a dork. Michael Bennett. I mean that was
kind of accurate if you think about it.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Hmmm. No, oh, no, no, no.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
You have such great impersonation, which is can you do me?
Speaker 6 (12:41):
Ah?
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Usually when you're gone, I do it just so people
know you're not here, but they still get a feeling
and a flavor he does.
Speaker 2 (12:48):
Yeah, that's okay, I can take it.
Speaker 4 (12:50):
The best one of your go to lines that I
love is when you get caught off. Garbery said, Oh wow, Kelly,
it's kind of like that.
Speaker 2 (12:58):
What are you talking?
Speaker 6 (13:00):
Hey?
Speaker 2 (13:00):
I never get caught off guy, You know what are
you referring to?
Speaker 3 (13:03):
Like if she says something that were to.
Speaker 1 (13:05):
Surprise you by Kelly, I get caught off by Kelly
all the t.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Every time.
Speaker 4 (13:11):
Right, okay, and your your kind of exclamation, Oh wow, Kelly.
Speaker 2 (13:17):
That is that's a good one. Where'd you learn to
do that? What advice would you give to those of
us out here who want to learn how to do
good impressions?
Speaker 4 (13:25):
Lose yourself. You got to lose yourself in the impression.
You got to commit to the bit, you got to
become the person. And like when I'm in.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
Personally, that's why I can't dance either.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
There's a little bit of that, but like with Michael Bennett,
I'm trying to actually sound like how Michael Bennett.
Speaker 3 (13:40):
Would be and when you remember he got really angry.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
At Ted Cruise, the whole classic right, bellowing elk with floods,
people lost their jobs, Ted Cruise is terrible.
Speaker 3 (13:51):
You know that. It was quite a scene.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
Yeah, it was interviewed Ted Cruz about that meltdown by
Bennett on the side.
Speaker 1 (14:00):
Yeah, let's get him out, let's talk about that. You know, boy,
Joe Scarborough must listen to the show, right, because he's
pulled a one to eighty in twenty four hours, because
yesterday I was mocking him on this show and he
deserved that.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
You know.
Speaker 1 (14:14):
They're talking about you know, Putin pushing Trump around and
all this and that, and was saying, wait a second,
you have to have hate interfering with brain function to
think this is going to end well for Putin right,
that that Trump is somehow going to let him win,
not one.
Speaker 2 (14:29):
Chance in a billion. So here's Scarborough today.
Speaker 7 (14:32):
The mocking of Donald Trump repeatedly by the Kremlin that
I don't know exactly how that helps some of the negotiations,
but we will see. The President has talked about two
weeks before he makes any decisions on sanctions. Obviously in
your fusion in the middle of negotiations, good faith negotiations
which needs do not appear to be.
Speaker 8 (14:52):
You don't slap sanctions on anybody. Don't use the S word. Okay,
sanctions are meaningless. I'm not saying they shouldn't happen, but
they're meaningless. They're never going to change Putin's behavior. Trump
is going to change Putin's behavior, but it's not going to.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
Be through sanctions.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
It might be sanctions on the surface, but it's not
going to be through sanctions that he changes his behavior.
And we may never it may never be traceable to him,
we may never know exactly how he did it. But
if Latimer Putin is sitting there thinking he's untouchable personally,
(15:30):
not if the President of the United States once you
touched so yeah, yeah, now it it is not going
to end well for Putin, this mocking of Trump. Now,
we should never have a single American boot on the
ground there, and it should not be an open ended,
endless commitment of unlimited money, nothing like that. But Putin
(15:54):
is satan, as I've been saying for many years on
this show, and the fact that he has pushed it
too far with Trump, Putin wouldn't take yes for an
answer in terms of a good deal, which Putin never deserved.
But don't blame Trump for that, Blame Biden. Blame Europe
for not going in and truly backing up Ukraine.
Speaker 4 (16:10):
What do you make of Trump over the last week?
Couple things. One, he's finally come right out and criticized
Putin and says he's not happy about what's going on
on that side of the negotiations with Russia.
Speaker 3 (16:22):
He's been very careful kind of minding his p's and
q's and now not.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
And then he was asked in the Oval office about
did he give Israel kind of a what for warning, like, hey,
don't get involved in any kind of agitation of Iran
while we're trying to work out this deal, and he
disclosed that he's been very kind of upfront about those
two things.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Yeah, two things there. One is with regard to Putin,
why would anybody ever think that you could humiliate Donald
Trump publicly and get away with it?
Speaker 3 (17:00):
Right?
Speaker 1 (17:01):
So what does that tell you about Putin? I'm very
confident he's not going to get away with this. And
number two, with regard to Israel, you know, Trump's been
one of the best friends Israel has ever had. I
do have a concern right now about whether Trump is
going to do a deal that should not be done
(17:24):
with Iran. It sure looks like a deal shaping up right,
and I'm anxious to see the terms, and blessed are
the peacemakers. I am all for that instead of war,
but it has to be a real piece, has to
be a true piece, has to be a genuine piece,
not just an absence of war, not with that evil
regime they think about it. I mean, it just came
(17:46):
out last week and said they want to wipe Israel
off the face of the earth, which they say all
the time and they mean, but they also are holding
their own citizens hostage. Almost all of the people in
around not all, but almost all the people in Iran
are innocent victims of this evil roos. And so I
just hope I trust Trump. We're all human, we all
(18:07):
make mistakes. I really hope he doesn't make a mistake
with an Iran deal. If it's a true, verifiable deal
with teeth, and we have legitimate reason to believe it's
going to end this peacefully without around getting a nuke. Fine,
but I'm concerned three or three, someone, three eight, two,
five five The number takes d an five seven, seventh
(18:28):
thry nine. Quick look ahead, because this is really important
on a lot of levels. On the other side, we're
going to have the attorney who filed this tremendous lawsuit
yesterday against the State of Colorado, and it's over this
obviously unconstitutional House Bill thirteen twelve, which seeks to punish
free speech, but very specifically punish people speaking the truth.
Speaker 2 (18:52):
That's the whole point of the bill.
Speaker 1 (18:54):
And so I have the attorney from Alliance Defending Freedom
talk about where they're going to win this thing.
Speaker 2 (18:59):
And how quick you're in the Dankapla Show.
Speaker 3 (19:08):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast at pey.
Speaker 1 (19:12):
Line and welcome Attorney Hal Frampton to the show from
Alliance Defending Freedom. Another great and very important to your
life lawsuit filed by Alliance Defending Freedom yesterday on behalf
of xx x Y Athletics Company. We've had their CEO
on before out there doing great work. They have an
apparel line, but they also stand up for women and
(19:32):
against men in women's sports.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
So hell, welcome to the Dankpla Show.
Speaker 6 (19:37):
Thanks Dan, great to be here, well.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
Thank you and thank you for filing this lawsuit. I
quoted from it yesterday a bit, but great to get
it from the horse's mouth here. Can you just tell
people why thirteen twelve is unconstitutional?
Speaker 2 (19:52):
Absolutely?
Speaker 6 (19:54):
Thirteen twelve essentially prohibits businesses like XXXY Athletics from speaking
the truth about biological reality. If they say that men
are men and women are women. If they use a
male athlete's given name, or call that person a man,
or refer to him with masculine pronouns as they do
(20:15):
in their social media presence and advertising all the time,
their subject to enforcement action under the law. And that's
totally unconstitutional. That's Colorado trying to tell people what to
think and what they can and can't say, and free
speeches for everyone. So we are filing this lawsuit to
(20:35):
try to vindicate that right, right.
Speaker 1 (20:38):
And they go to this to me bizarre ultimate extreme
of specifically punishing people for speaking the truth. I mean,
it's mind blowing. So I said here thinking that this
may be one of the clearest easiest cases Alliance Defending
Freedom has ever done. But we all know there are
(20:59):
no sure things in the legal system. Where do you
think this gets resolved? And how long is it likely
to take.
Speaker 6 (21:07):
Well, we're going to file emotion for a preliminary injunction,
essentially asking the court to step in and go ahead
and block the state from enforcing the law against XXX.
Speaker 1 (21:18):
Why.
Speaker 6 (21:19):
We're hopeful that that will be granted. I mean it
should be, but hopefully we can get a good, clear
ruling as quickly as possible and protect not only XXX why,
but every other small business or business out there that
just wants to speak the truth about biological reality.
Speaker 1 (21:37):
Right, and to stand up now to this strategy, this
practice by the left of punishing free speech. I mean,
they know they can't win on the science, they can't
win on the logic, they can't win on the facts,
they can't win on just a basic morality. So now
what they have to do is punish people under the
law for speaking the truth. So I love the fact
(21:57):
that you and Alliance Defending Freedom are standing up to
that as well more globally. But hell, can you take
us inside a little bit some of the details of
the bill that lead to this unconstitutional outcome. Where an
employer liked your client, or I should say, a public
accommodation of business like your client cannot speak the truth.
(22:18):
How does thirteen twelve mechanically accomplish that terrible purpose?
Speaker 2 (22:25):
Sure?
Speaker 6 (22:25):
Well, essentially what it does is they've added to the
definition of gender expression, which is one of the protected
categories under the law. They added this notion of having
to use a person's chosen name, whatever name they say
they want to be known by. If John wants to
be called Jane, that's what you have to say. And
(22:46):
also how the individual chooses to be addressed. So if
if John says call me he or call me she,
you have to do it. And if you don't, then
that is considered discriminating on the basis of gender expression,
and it subjects the company to enforcement action.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Insane.
Speaker 1 (23:06):
And then when it comes to enforcement action, why are
companies concerned about that as they should be.
Speaker 2 (23:12):
What kind of form can that take?
Speaker 6 (23:16):
Sure that can be fined up to thirty five hundred
dollars for each violation that can be it even can
mean prosecution as a misdemeanor, a criminal offense. And again
each violation, every time you publish something that uses biologically
accurate language, that is in itself a violation. Just the
(23:39):
publication is a violation. And so when you've got a
business like xxxy that is standing up every day through
their social media channels, through their advertising. Every single time
they do that, it's a potential violation.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
Right right, Help frempt and our guest is the attorney
in this very important lawsuit against the State of Colorado.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
Hail. We look at this case right now.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
I'm really glad you guys are seeking this preliminary injunction.
But if it does end up going all the way
to the US Supreme Court, how long is that likely
to take? And the reason I asked the question is
it seems to me the left in Colorado is into
the process as punishment they've had.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
They pass these bills, they sign them.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
They know they're unconstitutional, but they know they'll intimidate a
lot of people and they'll punish others along the way
by putting them through this long, expensive legal process. So
if it goes all the way to SCOTUS, when does.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
It get there?
Speaker 6 (24:42):
Well, all getting all the way Scotus generally takes a
couple of years. But the really good news on that
front is that the Supreme Court has taken a number
of cases from Colorado. We've got one pending right now
on behalf of councilor Kaylee Chiles, who wants to be
able to council children in accordance with biological reality, and
(25:03):
of course Colorado doesn't allow that either. But the Supreme
Court is going to hear her case in the fall,
and so hopefully at some point the uh the message
gets through that that we're we're going to uh protect
Colorado's free speech rights. If it takes us years and
all the all the all the time to do it.
Speaker 2 (25:23):
Well, thank god for you guys.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
Literally, but but it seems like Scotus is on to
Colorado at this point, right, I mean going back to
Justice Kennedy, the Jack Phillips case that they talk about
animosity from the commission.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
Hopefully the Supreme Court sees what's happening here.
Speaker 6 (25:40):
Well, certainly we hope they they they see that these
impingements on free speech cannot stand and continue to take
important cases like the child's case and.
Speaker 3 (25:50):
And this one.
Speaker 6 (25:50):
If it gets that far to protect Americans.
Speaker 1 (25:53):
From speech rights, Well, thanks for what you're doing. How
can people support Alliance Defending Freedom?
Speaker 6 (25:59):
They are welcome to go to our website ADS legal
dot org. You can read about all of our cases.
You can donate to the ministry. You can find ways
to get involved. All of the information is there, so
I would encourage people to use that resource and see
where they can plug in.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
Well, thank you man, you're appreciated and doing the work
of angels.
Speaker 6 (26:21):
Go get them all right, Thank you, Dan, Thank you.
Speaker 1 (26:24):
Hell take care of that is I'm telling you right now.
They are national treasure. Alliance Defending Freedom is a national treasure.
Speaker 4 (26:32):
And I spoke with Jennifer Say, the founder and CEO
of Xxxy Athletics, earlier this week Dan, and she point
blank set even though she got a startup, she got
a good company. She was a former executive at Levi's
and San Francisco, so she's very accomplished. No way she
could embark upon this legal journey without the know of
Alliance Defending Freedom.
Speaker 1 (26:50):
Yeah, but then you think of all the heroes out there, right,
and you think of her. Now you think of Glory
and three or three Creative and Jack Phillips, right, who
led the pack. I mean, these are true American heroes
because yeah, okay, so you've got a lion's defending freedom,
fighting the case, but you are still the individual going
through this really intense litigation and exposing yourself to all
(27:13):
the slings and arrows from all the haters out there,
and you put yourself out there, Yeah, in part for
your own good and the good of your company, but
also for the greater good. And so I just admire
the heck out of those people. I truly think. You know,
Jack Phillips is one of the top ten heroes in
Colorado history. I mean, you have you We should have
(27:34):
that talk. Who are the top ten heroes in Colorado history?
I mean, you've got Kender Castillo right up there, right
near the top, Dave and Anders.
Speaker 2 (27:43):
Jack Phillips has got to be up there, got to
be up there. So I'd love to get people's take
on that. Who are the top ten heroes in Colorado history?
Three or three?
Speaker 1 (27:51):
Someone three eight, two five five. You could text d
a n five seven seven three nine. Someone who took
us up on that. Texted Dan if Donald Trump comes
out on Monday and says, Vladimir Putin is a real
bad man. We tried to negotiate, but he's doing bad.
So as of today, Ukraine will now become a member
of NATO. I love people thinking outside the box, respectfully.
(28:13):
There's zero chance that's going to happen. The US cannot
be in a ground war in Ukraine. There is no
reason for that. There should not be a single American
boot on the ground. The reason that the devil Putin
has been rewarded in Ukraine is the weakness of Biden
number one, that he saw his opening right, but also
(28:36):
the weakness of Europe, because if Europe had made it
clear from day one they were willing to put boots
on the ground in Ukraine to stop Russia, this thing
ends a long time ago, but Europe was never willing
to go there, never willing to stand up to protect
the continent, to protect a free Europe. And the evil
(28:59):
of Putin is the main cause. But the reason that
we're in this gym right now is Europe would not
step up. So I'm not sitting here saying that Trump
should do what the Texter recommends. I think there are
other ways to make Putent pay. Here on the Dan Capla.
Speaker 3 (29:13):
Show, you're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 1 (29:23):
No, absolutely, but yes, I flashed back to there used
to be these commercials, radio commercials all the time in
Colorado for Sunday number one one one one, one of
these big rock shows they used to do down the
old Mile High and some up at folsom that I
was a part of. But quick question, I think Frampton
was part of the important.
Speaker 4 (29:42):
Because of where you were, what your coming of age was,
what your collegers were.
Speaker 3 (29:48):
You lived the seventies, and I got to ask you this.
Speaker 4 (29:51):
Did you own a copy of the album Frampton Comes Alive?
Speaker 6 (29:55):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (29:55):
I hated that stuff.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
No, I shouldn't say that. I never had any Peter
Frampton wasn't into that stuff.
Speaker 4 (30:01):
But the joke is, everybody who like lived through the seventies, Yeah,
had a copy of Frampton Comes Alive.
Speaker 3 (30:07):
My mom did.
Speaker 1 (30:08):
Let me start this way, I was the most boring
person ever lived through the seventies. That's the starting point
because think about what the seventies were for me. The
seventies were for me. The first half I was in
a seminary. Ye okay, okay, So my exposure to the
seventies tended to be, Oh, you know, there were these
girls from the local high schools who loved to streak
(30:29):
the seminary. So you'd get these naked girls running through
the oh you know, the fields.
Speaker 4 (30:34):
Dad, You have had more than your fair share of
encounters with random naked women in public.
Speaker 2 (30:38):
Part of that is.
Speaker 1 (30:39):
Part of that is like going to school in the seventies.
So the first half Seminary until seventy five, and the
second half is CU.
Speaker 2 (30:47):
Boulder, right yep, okay, so that was my exposure.
Speaker 1 (30:50):
But the time I was at See You Bolder, almost
all of it, I intended to go back to the seminary.
Speaker 2 (30:54):
So I was keeping my vows.
Speaker 4 (30:57):
Oh yeah, yes, so totally different mentality miam.
Speaker 1 (31:02):
Oh yeah, they weren't formal vows at that point, but
I was intending to go back.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
So no Studio fifty four for dan Kaplis.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
Oh No. I had fun. I was student body president.
I mean I had fun.
Speaker 1 (31:13):
I met girls, I dated, we'd go to formals, we
do all this and that. But I intended to go
back to the seminary.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
Real straight laced.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
Yeah yeah, so anyway, Yeah, different, different way to experience
the seventies is ill saying, right, yeah.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Very different. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (31:32):
But you know one thing that's interesting they don't get
back to all this life and desk stuff is because
I I second I got there, I started running for office.
So I ran for the student Senate, knocked on every
dorm room door, and literally every dorm room door.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
They didn't all open, but almost all did. Then ran
for student.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
Body try executive because you know they're kind of split
up the presidency. And then the third time I ran
for student body president sole president, and I knocked on
every dorm room door every time, and Ryan bringing a
stack of bibles. All right, how many times knocking on
every dorm room door? And see you between nineteen seventy
(32:12):
five and nineteen eighty, how many times do you think
guys saw cocaine?
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Seven? None, none, none, not once? Wow, not once.
Speaker 1 (32:25):
You'd run into all sorts of weed and stuff like that,
but never saw a hard drug. Knocking on every dorm
room door. You'd see all sorts of other activity, but
you would never never ran into cocaine.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
Were you greeted by a naked female at the door
any of those times.
Speaker 2 (32:42):
That happened off?
Speaker 1 (32:43):
Yeah, but I mean, yeah, wow, No, it was a
different time. But I was going back to the seminary.
I wasn't.
Speaker 2 (32:53):
Oh, I wasn't taking advantage.
Speaker 3 (32:54):
Of the last temptation of Dan at that time.
Speaker 1 (32:57):
No, I gotta tell you, I was at that point,
I was like so on fire to go back it.
Speaker 2 (33:03):
Yeah, of course you.
Speaker 1 (33:05):
Yeah, podcast, No, it's it didn't stop.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Me from knocking on every door, I.
Speaker 1 (33:12):
Gotcha, Yeah, knocking on Heaven's door. Yeah, it did cause
some perplection.
Speaker 4 (33:17):
Yeah, I mean I thought the nineties were different, and
they were, oh man, I mean very.
Speaker 3 (33:24):
Buttoned down compared to the seventies.
Speaker 1 (33:26):
Oh yeah, the seventies in Bolder. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
So that's I would strongly recommend that if everybody has
the option. They lived the first half of the seventies
being in a Catholic seminary high school years you'd go
home at nights, and then the second half at CU Boulder.
Speaker 3 (33:42):
You know, you just described that could be a movie.
Just start to finish.
Speaker 2 (33:45):
You know, there might be a movie in there.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
Ninety minutes running time.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
Because I told you, I told you about the first
female I met on the ceau camp.
Speaker 3 (33:53):
Oh I know.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
Yeah, that's when you go from the seminary, the first
female you meet, very nice, attractive young lady, not a
stitch of clothing, you know, I mean, but you're lucky, Doc,
go about your no oh yeah, oh yeah, I was
going back good times.
Speaker 2 (34:10):
I was going back.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
So Texters, Dan, does this all mean that if I'm
lying in a hospital vulnerable and don't refer to the
trans health worker as they demand.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
I will be prosecuted, No, because.
Speaker 1 (34:22):
The prosecution is going to be against businesses public accommodations,
which is most businesses out there, if they if they
don't lie and say that a man is a man.
Speaker 4 (34:35):
I'd be careful with that one though, because I've seen
a host of TikTok videos of healthcare workers that are
bragging about providing either the wrong medical care or no
medical care to Trump supporters, people they think are maga.
Speaker 1 (34:49):
It's out there, yeah, and obviously a real good chance
all that's fake, right because somebody be confessing to a felony.
Speaker 3 (34:55):
Well, I think some people have gotten fired.
Speaker 1 (34:57):
Yeah, oh for doing the video, right Yeah, yeah, but
it would obviously be a felony, and if somebody passed
away to be murder and all that stuff. So yeah,
I think you got a lot of people just saying
things that aren't true there obviously, just to try to scare, intimidate,
harass Dan.
Speaker 2 (35:16):
Thanks for owning it, Ryan the real Ralph.
Speaker 3 (35:18):
Okay, yeah, Ralph's poem.
Speaker 2 (35:21):
We were doing some poetry today, Dan, roses.
Speaker 1 (35:24):
Or red violets or blue the color our GOP is
pathetically inept, and I can't wait to escape this state.
You know, first, I don't think the Colorado GOP is
pathetically inept.
Speaker 2 (35:35):
I think it's turned a corner. I think it's headed
a good direction.
Speaker 1 (35:39):
Pretty good timing, right, because there's at least one office
that you got a real shot to win, maybe two.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
You're on the Dan Kapla Show.
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