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June 25, 2025 33 mins
Gordon Chang, noted China expert and author, joins Dan to start the show with his analysis on what impact a ceasefire between Iran and Israel will have on the Middle East and worldwide.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:14):
It's time once again for another edition of Trump's hot takes,
churning the forty seventh President's epic interactions with the fake
news media violated.

Speaker 3 (00:26):
Do you need a rock for the lad Day?

Speaker 4 (00:29):
Do? They violated it?

Speaker 2 (00:31):
But Israel violated it too.

Speaker 5 (00:34):
Israel as soon as we made the deal, they came
out and they dropped the load of bobs, the likes
of which I've never seen before, the biggest load that
we've seen. I'm not happy with Israel. You know, when
I say, okay, now you have twelve hours, you don't
go out in the first hours, just drop everything.

Speaker 6 (00:50):
You have on them.

Speaker 5 (00:51):
So I'm not happy with them. I'm not happy with
Iron either. But I'm really unhappy if Israel's going out
this morning because the one rocket that didn't land we got,
perhaps by mistake, that didn't land. I'm not happy about that.
Have we basically have new countries that have been fighting
so long and so hard that they don't know what

(01:13):
the they're doing.

Speaker 6 (01:14):
You understand that Dad's home and he's ticked. Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:19):
What a perfect guest to start the show with. Gordon Chang,
So fortunate to have him. You can follow him on
x at. Gordon Chang, author of Plan Red, China's Project
to Destroy America. Gordon, Welcome back to the dan Kapla Show.
Thank you so much, well grateful for your time. I
know how busy you are, but been dying to get

(01:39):
your reaction, first to the decision of President Trump to
launch these military strikes and then the aftermath.

Speaker 4 (01:50):
President Trump absolutely had to strike Iran's nucleus sites because
Iran was very close. And yes, they've been very close
for a long time. They've been a bomb in the
basement state. In other words, with a few turns of
the screw, as is often said, Iran could produce a device. Also,
it was not just Iran's enrichment of uranium. There's also

(02:12):
been suggestions unconfirmed, but nonetheless, there have been suggestions that
we have to consider that Iran actually bought enriched uranium
from others. Remember, just about a couple of days ago,
Dimitri Medvedev, the Russian former Russian president now current Russian
official actually talked about selling enriched uranium to Tehran. So

(02:33):
this was a present danger, and I'm glad President Trump
took bold steps to degrade Iran's nuclear weapons.

Speaker 1 (02:41):
Program now and I share that as well. Again, it's
Gordon G. Chang yet Gordon G. Chang on X And
so you've seen obviously these New York Times CNN reports
claiming based upon internal damage assessments, that that perhaps the
program was only set back a few months. I don't

(03:02):
trust those reports and face value, but let's say they
were true. Does that change your assessment of this?

Speaker 4 (03:09):
No, because a few months is important. You know, we've
got to remember that those bombs actually sealed the sites
that we're talking about Florida, Isfahan and the Tons, and
that means the Iranians have got to go out in
the open and they can easily be targeted again. Now,
we really don't know what the bomb damage assessment is.

(03:32):
I wouldn't be surprised if the reports are right. I
wouldn't be surprised if the reports are wrong. We just
don't know at this stage, right, and what.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
Seems most important to me is the message to the
IOTOLA to the regime, that Trump will go there, that
he will go in. Obviously Israel will. So I have
to think that the setback here to the program, no
matter what the bomb damage assessment says, that the setback
to the program is going to be long term, just
based on that realization that I'm Americ in Israel aren't

(04:00):
going to sit back.

Speaker 4 (04:02):
Yes, And it's also a message to others other bad actors,
such as for instance, Russia and China and North Korea.
So remember all of these bad actors, they work together,
they take their cues from what the United States does
or doesn't do. And so I think this was a
beneficial message for beneficial for US. And I think the

(04:24):
Chinese now understand that President Trump is willing to use force.
They probably didn't know that before. It's good they know
it now.

Speaker 1 (04:32):
Rag And what do you think the effect, if any.
I'm hoping will be positive on the effort to make
peace between Russia and Ukraine. And I view Russia there
as the aggressor in Ukraine as the victim. But obviously
both leaders at this point weren't responding that well to
President Trump before these strikes.

Speaker 4 (04:51):
Yeah, the important point here on Russia is that President
Trump means what he says, and he's willing to back
up his words. You know, we've had a series of
presidents who said that they wanted to stop Iran's nuclear
weapons program, but they were never willing to take effective measures.
Now we have a president who has taken effective measures,

(05:12):
and I think the Russians are going to understand that
President Trump when he says something, he actually in fact
means it. And that's a very important thing because we've
had a series of presidents who have said a lot
of things that they never meant and that has made
the world less safe as bad actors saw the United
States in their view with people. I'm not saying that

(05:33):
they were right, but that's the way they perceive things,
and that's why the international system has disintegrated.

Speaker 6 (05:40):
Gordon g.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
Chang our guest at Gordon G. Chang on X What
comes next first with regard to Iran Israel and then we'll.

Speaker 6 (05:49):
Move beyond that.

Speaker 4 (05:51):
Yeah, that's a great question, and we really don't know.
But it doesn't seem that the regime is able to
reconstitute itself, and I think over several months we will
see a new ruling group in Tehran that's just a guess,
but it seemed to me that there are a lot
of people in Iran who are really upset about what
the Iotolas were doing. Now, of course, there are also

(06:14):
people who supported the Iotolas, but I think that you're
going to see that the bigger group in society, especially
around the country, doesn't want a nuclear weapons program and
wants to be part of the international community. So I
think that will eventually prevail.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
And that'll be my final question for today. I'd love
to talk to you every date, but my final question
will be what would it take, just mechanically for the
people of Iran, assuming a clear majority wanted to get
rid of this regime, wanted more freedom, what would it
take to accomplish that, Because you'd have to think, if
they can't pull it off, now, can they ever do it?

Speaker 3 (06:52):
Well?

Speaker 4 (06:53):
I think it takes a lot of people in the streets.
You know, regimes can kill people in small numbers in
order to do keep themselves in power, in order to
intimidate everybody. But when the crowds become too large, regimes
just melt away and soldiers don't fire. And that's what's
going to take in the case of Iran. It's going
to take what we saw in two thousand and nine.

(07:13):
And if President Obama had supported the green movement, we
wouldn't have this problem today.

Speaker 6 (07:19):
So well said.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
And it's so strange because I remember those days people
in the streets crying Obama, I help us, Obama help us,
and he chose the Iatolis. But final words of wisdom,
my friend.

Speaker 4 (07:30):
For today, we got to be really safe because the
world is increasingly dangerous, and we have to worry about
the Iranian networks in our own country as well as
the Chinese and Russian ones. They are ready to strike
and we have to break them up. And that's I
think the first priority for borders. Our Tom Holman, break

(07:50):
up the foreign networks on our soil.

Speaker 6 (07:53):
Well said. Gordon. Appreciate the time. Thank you, my friend,
Thank you.

Speaker 4 (07:57):
I really appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
Find him at Gordon G. Chang, author of Plan Red,
China's Project to Destroy America. Hey, some more of this
hot take sound from the president today? Your reaction to that.
You're on the Dankpla Show.

Speaker 2 (08:12):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.

Speaker 5 (08:15):
We basically have two countries that have been fighting so
long and so hard that they don't know what the
they're doing. Do you understand.

Speaker 1 (08:23):
That that's a first right in American presidential history, the
first open use of the F word like that.

Speaker 6 (08:31):
It certainly had a fact, it had impact.

Speaker 2 (08:35):
I listen, it wasn't an accident. Let's put it that one.

Speaker 1 (08:37):
No, no, no, that's right. There was an intentionality to it.

Speaker 6 (08:41):
But i'd like to het your take on this right.
And we have many people in our audience, and I
get it.

Speaker 1 (08:46):
I think Trump is one of the most accomplished presidents
already in American history. But what do you think of
the use of the F word. I wish no president
would ever use it publicly, and that's not been any
kind of rude or anything. And again I've praised Trump
relent Trump relentlessly when he's deserved it, which is often.

(09:07):
But yeah, I think we could do without the F
word from the president. The context this morning. I think
it was probably effective. I think I agree with Ryan.
I think it was deliberate, it was planned. It wasn't
some lack of self control. I think that it was
intended to have an impact.

Speaker 6 (09:26):
On not just Iran and Israel.

Speaker 1 (09:29):
I think it was intended to have an impact on
you know, adversaries out there. Obviously Israel a great ally,
but President Trump not happy with Israel this morning. And
do you think the President was right or wrong to
be unhappy with Israel? Obviously he's been effusive in his
praise of Bibi Netanyahu has as he should be. But

(09:50):
was he right to be unhappy this morning? So I'd
love to get your take on all of that. Three
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then a broader discussion probably a good time to have
it on kind of the coursening of language in society.
It tends to be more and more acceptable these days

(10:11):
to use words that never would have been used in
public before. I'm guilty of that myself sometimes, and I
don't know why, because every now and then, Ryan, for
some reason, I'll say the word crap. I don't even
like the word. I don't like saying it, I don't
like hearing it. There are some bad words I like
saying and I like hearing, and I'm embarrassed about that.
I'm not proud of that. But that word crapic, I

(10:33):
don't even like it. But you know a little while
back that you'd never hear that on error. Now it
seems to be kind of routine, which I think is unfortunate.
And again, it's not a prude kind of thing. Anybody
who knows me knows I'm the opposite of a prude.
It's it's more just I think you got to bring
everything back to the kids, right, And it's a big
mistake that's made sometimes in societies when that there isn't

(10:58):
that line drawn between kids and a adults. And I
do think we have this sacred obligation to kids, and
kids are different and their innocence needs to be protected.
And I think you've got many who, for political ideological reasons,
they want to strip that innocence away, right, And that's
why you see certain political groups, you know, try to

(11:21):
sexualize kids at an early age. I'm not saying go
out and sexually assault them or sexually abuse them, but
they try to immerse them in sexual issues and sexuality
at an early age, because I think it's part of
the ongoing effort of the left to break down societal norms,
separate children from the parents, separate children from their faith
because they know I mean, police acknowledged it the day

(11:42):
after he won the race that, you know, if you've
got to separate people from their faith in order to
get them to follow the lead of the left. The
way he said it was, hey, people need to leave
their faith outside the public square, right yeah, acuffs. If
you actually act on your faith, you're not going to
support the left. So yeah, the sexualization of children and

(12:04):
everything else is part of a leftist agenda. I don't
put the use public use of the F word into
that category at all, but I do think that the
only reason I'd have a concern about that kind of
language being used publicly is again, children, and the example
for children and President Trump right now is in so
many ways a tremendous example for children, and in other

(12:26):
ways some of the personality stuff. You say, hey, thank god,
literally he's our president. But I'm not sure I want
you know that the kids sending out mean tweets, but
thank god he's our president. But this, the public use
of the F word, I think is a good time
for that broader discussion. Three h three someone three A
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(12:48):
As we go to the phone lines and text her,
and it it does seem like the all of a sudden,
almost a tipping point thing. The F word is becoming
much more common in like regular conversation around town.

Speaker 6 (13:02):
I'm not saying.

Speaker 1 (13:03):
That that at this point is said as often as
the word hell or anything like that, but but yeah,
i'd rather society reverse that. Let's start in Beautiful Meat,
Colorado with Tom. You're on the Dan Kapla Show.

Speaker 7 (13:18):
Welcome, Hi Dan, how are you?

Speaker 6 (13:21):
I'm living the dream, my friend? How about you?

Speaker 7 (13:23):
My mother always accused me of inventing the F word.
But anyway, so I think that whole exchange between, you know,
with Trump getting down on both Iran and Israel, it
felt stage to me like they're all in the all.
You know, Israel and Trump were coordinating that, and I

(13:48):
kind of what do you think of that? I just
they dropped these bombs. I mean, I'm not sure.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
Do you think I think you're onto something? I think
I wouldn't say it in your words. But I'll go
back to how I ended the show yesterday. I think
Israel is going to take out the Iyahtola, and I
think Trump suspects that and he's trying to distance himself
from that.

Speaker 7 (14:11):
Okay, all right, all right, all right, okay that's a
great take.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
Yeah, that's all I got, my friend, Thank you, Tom,
appreciate the call. Three or three someone three eight two
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There's a really good text here. It's a little too long,
so I'll save it till after the break, but it
starts with Dan unless the Itola is removed. I suspect
many of your comments concerning Iran will not age well.

(14:36):
I'll get into the details of that later articulate, but
long text, I disagree completely. I'd say, even if the
Ayatola remains in power long term. Now he's an old
man at this point, but let's say he remains a
year or two, and that's no sure thing, right.

Speaker 6 (14:55):
I know, I think everything I've said is going to
prove to be true.

Speaker 1 (14:59):
I think there are enormous gains as a result of
Israel's incredibly effective attack on Iran. And you know, so
much has happened in the last thirteen days it's hard
sometimes to even remember all of the brilliant things that
Israel accomplished that will undermine and destabilize this evil regime

(15:19):
long term. And then President Trump going there in the
American military executing the missions, so well, it doesn't depend
at this point on the extent of the bomb damage
assessment long term, because no matter how successful that was,
Iran and theory was going to have the opportunity to rebuild.
I think the critical thing is the message has been

(15:41):
sent that this president will go there, which makes it
more likely a future president would to protect our interest
Israel will go there. And then that's against the backdrop
of think about the mass infiltration right now of the
Iranian military and of the Iranian political leadership, the mass

(16:01):
infiltration by Masad in Israel, and right now nobody can
trust anybody there for good reason because there's probably Massad
all over the place, and so that destabilizing effect. Now
I think a tremendous amount has been gained. All right,
if your standard is perfection, if your standard is a
silver bullet, if your standard is an absolute guarantee, guess what,

(16:24):
you aren't going to get that on the face of
this earth in any aspect of your life, which means
you're not going to get it when it comes to Iran.
Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the grade.
And what's just happened is great in terms of advancing
world peace. And security. You're on the Dan Kaplas Show.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.

Speaker 6 (16:51):
All right, I'll buy it.

Speaker 1 (16:52):
What what's the tie?

Speaker 2 (16:55):
Well, unfortunately, we are marking the passing of Bad Companies
lead guitarist.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
And they did this song, Oh can you remember this song?
I don't remember. I remember the song.

Speaker 6 (17:06):
I don't remember a Bad Company?

Speaker 2 (17:09):
Oh, Dan, there are people like my father who had
forgotten a lot about the seventies due to drug use.

Speaker 6 (17:18):
You didn't do those things in the seventies, may I ask,
was your father in the same seminary I was.

Speaker 8 (17:24):
You're a different semar quite the opposite, Okay, Okay, so so,
and believe me, I was not the perfect seminarian, ok
I know.

Speaker 2 (17:34):
But Mick Ralps, Mick Ralps was the lead guitarist for
Bad Company. Okay, and these guys are getting up there
in age. He was eighty one, okay, and some tremendous
music will be paying tribute through on Trap Today's program.

Speaker 1 (17:45):
Yeah, well, I look forward to that. And was the
kind of a one hit wonder. I don't mean it, digress,
but wasn't that well Okay?

Speaker 2 (17:52):
So they had a self titled trap called Bad company,
which I'll play next two hit Wow, No, several many leads.

Speaker 6 (18:01):
I shouldn't even.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
Be doing this because one of the many things, and
I'm sure your dad was the same way. One of
the many things my dad ingrained in me and my mom.
But my dad was very big on this, never speak
ill of the debt. I'm sure he has some exceptions, right,
but general rules, so especially not bad company.

Speaker 6 (18:17):
I got nothing against.

Speaker 2 (18:18):
Let me ask you this, your parents what kind of
music did they like?

Speaker 6 (18:22):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (18:22):
From their time, my dad's favorite song was Sentimental Journey.

Speaker 6 (18:26):
That's a good one.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
Yeah. I just remember with my mom a lot of Peter,
Paul and Mary. But okay, but I'll ask my sister
about that. Well, maybe I just answered the question because
Mary's gonna ask my sister.

Speaker 6 (18:41):
But I don't have a brother Peter or Paul. So yeah,
you got to test that theory.

Speaker 1 (18:45):
Three all three someone three eight two five five takes
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have not heard this sound today.

Speaker 6 (18:53):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
This is Representative Crocket Democrat Texas saying she's the one
who's supposed to decide whether we bomb or run and
thank god she's not and.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
Is to understand enough about the Constitution to the extended
out the one that's supposed to make a decision or
at least get both.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
Yeah, look at even her own crowd couldn't muster anything
up for that.

Speaker 6 (19:19):
We want her making the blanking decision.

Speaker 1 (19:21):
Wow, But by the way, she's not the one who's
supposed to make that decision, right, And so it is hilarious.
And I know you already know this, so I don't
want to waste your time with it. But to hear
the Democrats really just further hurting themselves right now. Because
people are smart, right, and it doesn't matter whether they've

(19:42):
had a year of education or they've had a lifetime
of formal education.

Speaker 6 (19:46):
I'm talking about. People are smart and they get that the.

Speaker 1 (19:51):
Democrats right now are are as blatantly dishonest as any
political party we've had in American history. So they come
out now and they want rip Trump for this successful
mission that I think vast majority of Americans are proud
of deep down, whether though admitted to a pulstore or not.
But let me just do a quick spin through this,

(20:13):
this whole idea that the War Powers Resolution of nineteen
seventy three somehow prohibits President Trump from doing what he
just did. It's ludicrous on its face. And anybody who
tries to argue that, you know that you cannot trust
because first of all, what does that thing even say,
this Nixon era thing, It says you have to notify

(20:36):
Congress within forty eight hours and the use of military
force must.

Speaker 6 (20:39):
End within sixty days.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
I mean, that's a summary, but there's no violation of
that by President Trump.

Speaker 6 (20:45):
And those who claim.

Speaker 1 (20:47):
It violates the Authorization for Use of Military Force Act
that was passed after nine to eleven just look at
the darn act. I mean, I printed it out so
you don't have to do this work. But the final
wherese clause whereas the President has authority under the Constitution
to take action to deter and prevent acts of international

(21:09):
terrorism against the United States. Obviously, this mission squarely within
that authorization. And of course, you know the biggest point, right,
which is Democrat presidents and Republican presidents have been using
the same kind of authority that President Trump properly exercised
over the weekend, have been using it for decades and

(21:29):
decades and decades. So my only point the Democrats are
just hurting themselves further with this crazy talk to somehow
President Trump went beyond his authority.

Speaker 6 (21:40):
So all I can say is, please keep doing it.

Speaker 1 (21:43):
Please, Democrats, keep doing what you're doing, because it's just
hurting you and helping America and helping America by causing
people to vote against you. Three or three someone three
a two five five the number the key distinction, right,
because everybody knows constitutional power to claire war quote unquote
rests with Congress, and so what that comes down to.

(22:06):
I think virtually every honest scholar on this agrees that
that comes down to the nature, extent and duration of
the mission. Yeah, if you're talking about a ground war
being fought over years, if you're talking about that kind
of nature extent, duration, Yeah, that's something Congress would have
to declare this kind of mission over the weekend, not

(22:27):
even close. Three three someone three eight two five five
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Let's not forget, says a Texter when Biden called Peter
Deucey a stupid.

Speaker 6 (22:40):
Son of a b word.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
To me, that was far more offensive because Biden directed
it at a person rather than Trump directing his comment
to two warring countries. That from our good friend Alecsa.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
On that real quick. Yes, Peter Deucy took it in
good stride. He had a lot of fun with it.
And President bideny's contact him directly by phone and apologize
to him. So I think there's something that's be said
for that in President Biden's favor.

Speaker 1 (23:08):
And do you think Biden needed to apologize for that?

Speaker 6 (23:13):
It's one of the best things to ever happened to
Peter deuce is right. I think he said that when
the president.

Speaker 1 (23:18):
Yeah, especially that presenting. Yeah, yeah, but but no, it
was good of Biden to apologize there. To me, there's
such a big difference. Again, this is not a prude
thing on the opposite of a prude that maybe I
should be more of a prude.

Speaker 6 (23:37):
How would you define prude? Oh wow?

Speaker 2 (23:40):
Some of it always minds their p's and q's and
is always proper, And I can't. It might not be
a bad thing.

Speaker 6 (23:46):
Would you want to always be proper?

Speaker 2 (23:48):
I couldn't if I tried, But if I pretended, because
then you get the label like goodie two shoes, you
know that.

Speaker 6 (23:55):
Sort of thing. Well, but if you're worried about labels,
you got a problem, right.

Speaker 2 (23:59):
They got prudent attached to you in the first place. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
Yeah, What I always try to bring it back to,
and obviously I'm a long way from there, is what
would Jesus do? And I'm saying I'm not saying I
apply that standard to anybody else, or to the president
or anything like that. I mean, but when you do
look at the president in terms of those terms, here,
we've got it right here, right that.

Speaker 6 (24:22):
That's why JFK would have.

Speaker 1 (24:23):
Been impeached by these modern democrats. Here's here's the end
of JFK's inaugural address.

Speaker 3 (24:30):
And so, my fellow Americans, ask not what your country
can do for you, ask what you can do for
your country.

Speaker 6 (24:44):
Wait for it. Ah, You'll have to wait till another
another hit here.

Speaker 3 (24:49):
It is with a good conscience our only sure reward,
with history the final judge of our deeds. Let us
go forth to lead the land we love, asking his
blessing and his help, but knowing that here on earth

(25:11):
God's work must truly be our own.

Speaker 1 (25:15):
Yeah, the modern Democrats would impeach him for that. He'd
never get beyond his first day in office. Well, but
I love the way under that. But was I was
leading up to that Trump point.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
Well, the Trump point today is your best friend, Representative
l Green, Democrat Texas. He with the caine that interrupted
Trump's Stay of the Union address. He brought articles of
impeachment to the House Floridaday to be voted on.

Speaker 1 (25:38):
Please send money to that guy. Keep them going right,
keep them in the news.

Speaker 6 (25:43):
Right.

Speaker 1 (25:43):
On the one hand, you have Raisin Kine, the Chairman
of the Joint Chiefs, right, executing these flawless missions with
those wonderful men and women. And on the other hand
you have the Democrats, Raisin Kane, right, the old guy
with the caine yelling at Trump during Instead, I'll take
our Raisin King over the Raisin Kin. But the reason
I wanted to play the end of President Kennedy's inaugural
address is I love that he said that, and I

(26:07):
think it's absolutely true. It goes back to our founders, right.
But I think President Trump is doing that in so
many different ways. No human is ever going to be perfect.
So my only point b you can have somebody who
can be you know, rough and gruff at times and
use this word in that word, and do this and

(26:27):
that maybe mean thing, but in the end they are
doing more to advance God's work on Earth than all
these other people running around and never say a swear word.

Speaker 6 (26:38):
You're on the Dan Kepler Show.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
And now back to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.

Speaker 6 (26:44):
Oh I'm gonna stump you on one first time I ever.
I don't know about that.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
That other band most famous song has the name of the.

Speaker 6 (26:55):
Band in it. Oh wow, that's a great question. I'ms up.
Go ahead.

Speaker 2 (27:02):
He did you stop me?

Speaker 6 (27:05):
Hey? Hey, we're the monkey.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
The monkey people say a monkey around. Yeah, that's a
good one. There's a handful of others. I'm sure too.

Speaker 1 (27:13):
I had the greatest mom in the world. She actually
took us to the airport to see the monkey's plane land.

Speaker 6 (27:19):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (27:19):
Yeah, and then they got to go see it with
the big monkeys on the tail not actual animals.

Speaker 2 (27:25):
Okay, two questions. Who was her favorite monkey? And who
is yours?

Speaker 7 (27:29):
Who?

Speaker 6 (27:30):
Yeah, it's good.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
Mickey Dolan mcd he's still alive. He's only surviving, My
God love, only surviving man, still swinging. Michael Naysmith was
the he was the best actual musician.

Speaker 6 (27:46):
Yeah, okay, I didn't know there were any of those.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
He was he was good.

Speaker 1 (27:49):
Okay, Yeah, okay, that's why people are here, monkey's history.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
I think so.

Speaker 6 (27:54):
Yeah, Now this not not as happy as subject.

Speaker 9 (27:58):
It was the significant threat and I'm I'm talking about
this for four years ago. I was a Fox Uice
contributor before I came back with President Trump, and for
four years I said, my biggest concern is the open border.
Cause is the biggest national security vulnerability this country's ever seen.
You know, every day, the average under Biden administration, every
single day, the average was eighteen hundred one eight hundred

(28:19):
got aways known got aways. People we had on video
don traffic center, traffick. These are people we knew came
to the United States, entered the illegally. We don't know
who they are, where they came from, why to hear,
but they got away.

Speaker 1 (28:32):
See that's treasonous. I don't mean in the legally prosecutable sense.
It's not treasonous in that sense. I'm talking about the
moral sense, which is equally important. That is flat out treason.
It's when you run an administration where you know, you
know you have set up a process where eighteen hundred
people you cannot identify are coming into this country each day.

(28:52):
Talk about betraying the United States of America. So yeah,
we have to sit here right now. Of course, there
are large numbers of Iranian agents in America right now
because Joe Biden led him in.

Speaker 6 (29:03):
I mean he didn't say, okay, or any an agent you.

Speaker 1 (29:05):
Come in, but he knew that was going to happen
by leaving the borders open, right, Yeah, So that's the reality.

Speaker 6 (29:10):
So what do you think is going to happen with that?
If anything?

Speaker 1 (29:12):
Three or three someone three, eight, two, five, five the number?
Do you think here or somewhere else in the country,
we're going to get hit big, Ryan hit big by
what some kind of terrorist attack in retribution? Absolutely not, No,
I do not think that, And I sure hope you're right.
Why are you so confident?

Speaker 2 (29:28):
Because I think the regime itself is basing itself on
survival right now, and if anything happens like that, they've
seen what Donald Trump will do and they will be decimated.
They'd be leveled, and I think they're aware of that.
So if a tar cell, let's say, goes road acts
on its own, they need to know that by doing that,
they're putting the Iotola and the Mullas directly in the

(29:50):
bull's eye.

Speaker 6 (29:50):
Literally, no good logic there.

Speaker 1 (29:53):
I just think it's a little bit tenuous to rely
on logic from terrorists, but I understand the under line logic.

Speaker 6 (30:01):
I also sit.

Speaker 1 (30:02):
Here today believing it's it's certainly likely at the very least,
that Israel is going to end the Iyahtola. And I
think one of the reasons President Trump wanted to be
so adamant about this is over, we've got to cease fire,
everybody's following it, and then praising Iran in some other

(30:23):
ways is to separate himself from what's to come, which
is wise, that sounds because it's.

Speaker 6 (30:30):
Not his choice.

Speaker 1 (30:30):
If it was the president's choice, I don't think the
Ayahtola would be taken out, even though Iran has been
trying to kill Trump for a long time.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
And that's document What that distance creates, then, is that
plausible deniability of the United States having anything to do
with a potential assassination of the Ayatola, which we know
that President Trump is extremely reticent to do or to support, right.

Speaker 1 (30:52):
I don't think it's a plausible deniability. I think it's
a true deniability in the eyes of the Yea. No,
That's that's my very point. And to the rest of
the world. Is Trump, I think properly wants this formal
ceasefire separation, and then whatever happens happens. But again, and
I think, you know, Israel has been so brilliant in

(31:14):
defense of itself and its very existence, and is infiltrated
Aroun at the highest level so well that I think
they're going to be able to make it look like
an inside job, make it look like part of an
overthrow of that government. And Lord knows there are plenty
of people in around who would want to overthrow that government.
Let's go to Wolsenberg talk to Carol. You're on the

(31:34):
Dan Kaplis show.

Speaker 8 (31:35):
Welcome.

Speaker 10 (31:37):
I have support Trump all the way. I'm a senior citizen,
but I do not support him using.

Speaker 6 (31:44):
That F word.

Speaker 10 (31:45):
I do not support anyone using that word. If my
children have used it, my grandchildren use it to get
their mouth worshed out.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
Do people still do that? And I'm with you on that, Carol,
I'm with you on that completely. Have you actually wash
somebody's mouth out with soap? I've heard that expression, but
I've never seen it happen or had it happen.

Speaker 10 (32:04):
To me A long time ago.

Speaker 1 (32:07):
Okay, how did that go how to work, Like, did
you have to hold them down? Did you get help?
Did somebody else hold their mouth open? Because I can't
imagine many people say oh, open your mouth, I could
put soap in.

Speaker 6 (32:18):
They're okay, well my.

Speaker 10 (32:21):
Children did a baby cat.

Speaker 6 (32:23):
Wow, that's impressive. You write a book, I'll buy it.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
What I remember vividly, like it's thirty seconds ago, is
being out in front probably seven or eight, used a
swear word with some arguing with some kids, and my
mom's screaming at me, you're a caplist, You're better than that,
and then bringing me in the house. And I think
there was all sorts of punishment that did not involve.

Speaker 6 (32:45):
Soap in my mouth. Well there was severe punishment.

Speaker 10 (32:52):
Yes, there should be. And you know, it's the sad thing.
I'm on this SUN program and every time they post something,
somebody's saying that I just I cut him off. I
just think it's not necessary. It's appalling. And I think

(33:12):
that I will tell President Trump that.

Speaker 1 (33:16):
No tape the call when you do, please, But no,
I appreciate the call. Hey, I think he's a historically
great president, and he showed it again this weekend. And
but I think society has hurt kids. That's what I'm
worried about it. I'm not worried about you and me
and everything else who cares, But society is hurt because
kids are hurt.

Speaker 6 (33:33):
I think when the F word gets normalized, and.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
I know it was done for effect, and I think
it was effective, I just think we can do without
that word publicly.

Speaker 6 (33:43):
You're on the Dan Capito Show.
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