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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
In the American way is people like good jeans, right,
people like to wear good jeans, And all of a
sudden we have this controversy explode over the Sydney Sweeney Ads.
So I want to come out of the gate with
that today. I think the whole thing's fascinating and I think,
you know, we've all got it figured out on the surface, right,
But I think there's another layer to it, so I
want to dig into that. So I want to go
(00:37):
there and then much more ahead in the show today.
My apologies Ryan to you and everybody else from my
sudden departure during yesterday's show was completely unplanned.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
I was having a blast.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Lines are completely jammed with people talking about our name topic,
you know, the best names for boys, girls, names being
self fulfilling, shaping kind of prophecies for people.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
And then all of a.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Sudden, I'm gone, can'ter a thing, and I understand Alexa
texted Dan, hopefully nothing happened to you yesterday when you
disappeared off air. I figured Kyle Clark would report if
you were kidnapped by the stalker. Thank you, Alexa for
your concern. I think Kyle Clark would have thrown a party.
But no, nothing as interesting as that. It was just
(01:20):
a widespread internet outage up here in the mountains. And
so you know, I'm probably i should pull it up
on my phone and see I'm probably about eight thousand
feet up, you know, in a cabin on the side
of the mountain, just hidden away doing trial prep and
and but every now and then you have one of
these inconveniences that comes from being outside of the metro
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But thank goodness, there was a superstar talk show host
just waiting to launch, and Kelly, we appreciate all of that.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Hated.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Yeah, I'm reminded of the scene.
Speaker 5 (01:57):
Please tell me you've seen Wayne's World, the original movie.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
I'm not sure.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
Okay, well that's a no. I'm betting Amy has.
Speaker 5 (02:05):
But anyway, there's the scene where Wayne himself Mike Myers
storms off the set of his own show because he
doesn't want to do the corporate shilling for this arcade.
Sponsor is played by Brian Doyle Murray, who of course
is the guy that authored Caddy Shack. But Garth is
left to host the show and he doesn't know how
to handle it or what.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
To do, and he just zooms in on his face
and he's staring. It's like his head's on scanners. Man,
that was me, That was me.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
That was not the case yesterday. If you're new to
this show, thank you for being here. But Ryan is
an extremely accomplished talk show host who does a tremendous
show two to four Monday through Friday in the Denver markets.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
So you just assume took over seamlessly.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
Well, the good part about that is what you just said, Dan.
Speaker 5 (02:50):
We were loaded for bear with calls, and we just
kind of kept on going with that part of the
topic and I got into some stories and I kind
of took it down the rabbit hole there.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
So yeah, and you know there might have been other
days where I've been, oh, thank you guy. You know,
the show ends early, you know'll just go get some
other stuff done.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
But but I was having a.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Blast yesterday I know your name thing, and we were
getting great callers on that, like that lady who named
your boy Cannon.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Cannon.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Now that is a gift to a child, right because
that boy that's going to help him in a lot
of different ways. And we're just getting so many great
name calls. So if anybody wants to continue that today,
I'm sure we will have time for it. Three oh
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text d an five seven seven three nine. I'm really
intrigued by this whole controversy over the Sydney Sweeney ad.
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And if you're not familiar with her, she's an American actress.
She's twenty seven. She's been in a bunch of TV
shows and movies. I think she's a fine actress and
you know, a great personal backstory.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
What do you think?
Speaker 3 (03:49):
What do you think the common thread is between Sydney
Sweeney and Colorado Hero and hopefully soon worldwide Saint Kendrick Castill.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
What do you think they haven't? WHOA?
Speaker 4 (04:01):
I did not see it going there.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
I hope not. Wow. Yeah, what do you think they
have in common? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (04:08):
I couldn't even venture a guest robotics.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
She was a member of the robotics team in high school,
valedictorian of her class at Brighton Hall School in Burdbank, California.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
So wow, you get.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Big into robotics, big athlete, everything else. So you know
nothing but positive about Sydney Sweeney. So just if you're
not familiar with the story, picture twenty seven year old actress,
attractive blonde.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
How else would you describe O. Ryan? You can probably
do a better description as a single dame.
Speaker 5 (04:40):
She has well proportioned curves, curves, curve, I can say that, ye,
but not like you know, well proportioned curves.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Okay, okay, good clinical way to put it, Kelly. So
anyway that the story is you probably know by now right,
is that American Eagle hires her as a spokesperson and
cuts these spots. And as you listen to the spots,
if you haven't seen them yet, just picture someone who
meets the description. Ryan Offerd is somebody and indifferent spots.
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She's laying down in the spot you're about to hear.
In another spot, she's with a really cool Ford Mustang.
I'd put it probably a sixty five or sixty six
et cetera. But the theme's the same, right, very attractive
young woman in American Eagle jeans which look a lot
better on her than they would on me. But let's
go with how about the shorter spots she did cut
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three please.
Speaker 6 (05:34):
Chans are passed down from parents to offspring, often determining
traits like high color, personality, and even eye color.
Speaker 7 (05:45):
My jeans are blue, Sydney Sweeney has great jeens.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Yeah, so during that spot, she's shall we say, reclined,
and her her shirt she must have been in a
hurry because I think there's only one button, and so
they try to with the camera angles give you a
kind of a glimpse of her upper body under the shirt.
And so it's it's meant to be the way it sounds, right,
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It's it's meant to be alluring. And yes, so that
that is the spot, and there are variations, we'll get
into those. That's that's generated the big controversy as blonde haired,
blue eye, attractive female talking about her good genes. And
we'll play some of the audio of some of the critics.
But want to get your take on that. What do
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you think American Eagle was trying to do there? Three
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Any any beef with what American Eagle is trying to do. There,
any credence to some of the complaints that it's racial,
and believe me, I understand by even putting that out there.
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We then get into this pretty deep scientific discussion of
wait a second, is is race really a genetic constant
or is it more social construct? All of that, but
criticism that it's racial, criticism that it's fascist, you know, Hitler,
master race, genetic modeling, et cetera. So want to get
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your take to all of that, on all of that,
pardon me longer form versions cut to please, Ryan.
Speaker 6 (07:21):
I'm not here to tell you to buy American egle chains,
and I definitely won't say that they're the most comfortable
chance I've ever worn, or that they make your butt
look amazing.
Speaker 7 (07:34):
I'm going to need to do that.
Speaker 6 (07:36):
But if you said that you want to buy the jeans,
I'm not going to stop you. But us we're clear,
this is not me telling you to buy American engle chance.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Sidy Sweeney has very keenes.
Speaker 7 (07:48):
You see what I did there?
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Right? Okay?
Speaker 3 (07:51):
So that's that's another version of it. There's a version
of it, the one with the mustang I described where
she starts it under the hood, and then obviously they're
trying to make this these spots sexy, right, so they
have camera angles taking advantage of her bentover under the hood,
and then it ends with her, you know, just placing
her hands on her backside to kind of emphasize the
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genes under the pretense of cleaning her hands.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Is that a good description? There?
Speaker 4 (08:19):
Ryan very apt?
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Okay, okay, And so let's listen to what Marcus Collins
had to say about this on CNN Cut for Place.
Speaker 8 (08:29):
One person who weighed in on all of this was
Texas Senator Ted Cruz. He wrote on X Wow, now
the crazy left has come out against beautiful women. I'm
sure that will pull well. That has gotten a range
of reactions online. He's making obviously this political connection here.
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Talk to us about why this so called woke culture
has drawn so much backlash here in the US.
Speaker 9 (08:57):
I think that that is probably poor in lazy attribution.
I nothing to do with left leaniness and nothing to
do with quote unquote woke, at least the way woke
has been repositioned and recontextualized. I think this has everything
to do with meaning how.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
You though it?
Speaker 3 (09:16):
H Yeah, so how did you see this? And we'll
continue his comments after the break. I want to take
some calls and text on this. Three oh three seven
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of this texture to da N five seven seven three nine, Dan,
Conservative white people want more ads with white people, fewer brown, black,
fewer mixed race couples, no homosexuals, make America great again.
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Thank you, Texter, because you so fundamentally misunderstand conservative people.
And listen, I was a Democrat for many years and
and I was beyond shocked once I became a Republican
started to go go into events, et cetera. And it
just completely defies the stereotype that somebody like this text
puts on people. But it does raise the question is
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American Eagle, through this ad and series of ads, is
American Eagle directly targeting white people to buy their genes?
Speaker 2 (10:11):
And if so, is that wrong?
Speaker 3 (10:13):
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Speaker 2 (10:18):
You're on the Dan Capitlas Show.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
And now back to the Dankaplas show podcast.
Speaker 6 (10:25):
Chains are passed down from parents to offspring, often determining
traits like higher color personality and eve an eye color.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
My genes are.
Speaker 7 (10:36):
Blue, Sydney Sweeney has great genes.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Yeah, So talking about this ad that's generated a lot
of attention and a lot of controversy. Now, how much
of the controversy is real? My guess is that that
a fair amount of it is fake, and who knows,
some of it may be generated by American Eagle, which
would probably be brilliant on their part.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
But as you can see that for those who are
beefing about it, the beef is about, you know, this.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Very attractive twenty seven year old woman who happens to
be white, blonde hair, blue eyed, you know, doing an
ad based on her great genes j e a ns
not ge n ees. But obviously that's the messaging and
it has some history right that this is a takeoff
on a famous slash infamous ad that Brookes Shields did
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when she was fifteen years old.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Cut eight Please this was for Calvin Klein.
Speaker 10 (11:31):
A secret of life lies hidden in the genetic coat.
Geens a fundamental and determining.
Speaker 11 (11:37):
The characteristics of an individual and passing on these characteristics
two succeeding generations.
Speaker 10 (11:44):
Occasionally, certain conditions produce a structural change in the gen which.
Speaker 11 (11:49):
We'll bring about. The process of evolution.
Speaker 7 (11:53):
Has ma occur in one or more of the following ways.
Speaker 10 (11:57):
Firstly by selective mating, which is single gene type proof
superior and transmitting its genes to future generations. Secondly by
gene drift, in which certain genes may fade away while
other genes persist.
Speaker 12 (12:14):
And finally by natural selection, which filters.
Speaker 10 (12:17):
Out those genes better equipped than others to endure in
the environment.
Speaker 11 (12:21):
This may result in the origin of an entirely.
Speaker 10 (12:23):
New species which brings us to Calvins and the survival
of the.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Fittest Calvin KLEINB genes.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Yeah, and you may have wondered what she was doing
there during that ad. She was pretty much rolling around
on the ground in a bunch of different ways. The ad, obviously,
like the Sydney SWEENEYAD, intended to have sex appeal. Now,
I think the Brooks Shields AD was much more questionable
than this one because she was fifteen at the time
and it was obviously meant to be the overt sexual
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imaging in that ad and using a fifteen year old.
I think that was wrong Sidney's tweeny twenty seven. I
think the more interesting issue with the American Eagle AD,
which was I didn't think Ryan anywhere near as overtly
sex driven as the Brookshields. Add The interesting thing with
the American Eagle AD is a do you think they're
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intentionally targeting white people with the spot? And if so,
do you think that's wrong? Three O three seven one
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not amused?
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Cuts six please.
Speaker 6 (13:33):
Jans are passed on from parents to offspring, often determining
traits like her color, personality, and even eye color.
Speaker 7 (13:44):
My genes are.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Blue City Sweeney Hasbery Keynes.
Speaker 13 (13:48):
James are passed down from pirates to offspring, often determined
in triits like high air color personality, maybe my color
my Jens are bloe.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
So that's U Doja Cat's take.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
So we'll continue to work in some of the criticism,
But what would really like your take on this, this
question of okay, is that spot directly targeted to white people?
And if so, is there anything wrong with that? Three
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d A N five seven seventh through nine. Before we
get to that, Ryan, another pretty tough trivia question for you.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
And American Eagle.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
What kind of tangential association would American Eagle have with
a former very prominent and talented talk show host at
six point thirty KHW in Denver.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
Ellen Berg?
Speaker 3 (14:46):
But yeah, American Eagle used to be part of Silverman's Men'swear. No,
not the same, not the same as Craig Silver successful
in many other ways, but Silverman's Men'swear. Interesting, Yeah, was
American Eagle Outfitters and then American Eagle has gone on
to do some pretty good things. But let me ask you,
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do you think this campaign is helping or hurting American
Eagle three or three someone three eight two five five
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what do you think, my friend? Do you think this
ad is targeted toward white people? And if so, do
you have a beef with that.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
Targeted? I don't know.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
I think it's kind of the traditional appeal of advertising,
which is broader base and how do you maximize appeal
to the largest number of potential consumers. It's just along
those lines, and they are going for in my view,
what the wheelhouse is for the majority of people that
they would find to be attractive. And there's nothing wrong
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with that that you identify certain traits that are inherently attractive,
that you don't have to pretend that other traits are
attractive when we really know that they're not. And whether
that's body shape or where they want to characterize that
as Sidney Sweeney has the look of a young, vibrant, healthy,
attractive woman, and why wouldn't you use somebody like that
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as your spokesmodel for your product? And it's successful, And
it goes to the saying as well, Dan, bad publicity,
even though I don't think it even qualifies as that
with the criticism for the left, it's an acknowledgment, but
bad publicity is better than none, and I think had
there not been this backlash, it wouldn't be as successful
for American Eagle.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
This has been a boon for them.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
Their stocks are going up and their gene sales or
skyrocketing as well, So this has been a massive marketing
success for them.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Are you more likely to buy American Eagle now?
Speaker 5 (16:40):
I would if I had a daughter or you know,
somebody else in my life that would wear those.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
Type of genes that Sidney Sweeney has on. But like
you said, they look a lot better on her than
they would on me.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
Well, hey, but American Eagle, isn't that I mean that
seemed as much at men as women, right the brain?
Speaker 2 (16:54):
I think so, yeah, yeah, and boy, our text are
exploding on this.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Let me get to one the touches on your last point, Dan,
if the Sydney ad was some blank, blanking, ugly, blank
blank lives would be happy that from Abe. You know,
one of the reasons I'm a reason I was happy
to see this ad. I do have a concern with
it in another way, But a reason I was happy
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to see this ad is it was an overt attempt
to use somebody young and healthy and attractive, and I
think that's healthy for America. This whole craziness we got into,
you know where, like the Dylan mulvaney stuff. You know,
you're featuring some a man wearing a dress and and
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all that other goofiness. To me, that's just not healthy,
you know what I mean That there's I don't think
there's anything wrong with featuring some really attractive people in
ads like this. So to me, that that was a
positive thing. But if the ad is specifically targeted at
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white people, does that raise a concern? And then some
of the other Texters say, Dan, the woe crowd isn't
happy unless they have something to be mad about. That
is so true, right, And Dan, I am a conservative.
This is what conservatives want. Do you want homosexual ads
more than boy? These texts are flying in Dan. Us
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advertising has spent the last few years telling us that
three hundred and fifty pound woman is healthy and they
are no longer white married couples, biological male and biological
female with kids and commercials or ads.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Normal people are sick of all the virtue signaling.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
I think probably ninety nine percent of the audience right
now agrees with that. Dan, there's nothing wrong with that
advertisement with Sidney Sweeney. A similar Genes commercial was done
featuring Brookshields in the eighties, which we played on which
we just played. Yet don't they remember those good looking
girls eating a sloppy Carl's Junior burger?
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Geesh?
Speaker 3 (18:57):
If this is a sample of look, get some all crazy,
they really need to get a life. So and a
lot more great text on that, but nobody's addressed my
direct question, if this is specifically aimed at white people,
is that wrong? Three h three seven one three eight
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two five five. You're on the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
That is absolutely perfect, and I think it captures the
sense of ninety nine percent of our textures, which which
I agree with great the Sydney Sweeney d Listen. There's
a lot I like about it. I have one question
with it, but one of the things I like about
it is, yeah, I mean, think about think about where
the left has been taking our.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Society, you know, trying to.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
Undermine what we've always kind of valued in America, et cetera,
and fundamentally transform us in an awful way. And part
of that has been ads featuring men in women's dresses
and things like that. And so in featuring a very healthy, attractive, smart, accomplished,
academically and otherwise woman in an ad like this, I
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think is wonderful. You know, that's kind of traditional Americana.
I'm fine with all of that, but I do want
to start to get some response to this fair question,
which is is this ad specifically targeted toward white people?
And if so, is there any problem with that. I
want to get to some textures. Some who do, to
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their credit, tackle this, Dan to Danne five seven seven
three down. How many commercials are entirely in Spanish, obviously
targeted to Spanish speakers, fair point? And I don't have
any problem with those spots, Dan, are commercials with black
people aimed only at blacks. There are people who find
racism in anything, fair point.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Dan.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
If the ad had a black or Hispanic woman that
was as hot as Sydney, there wouldn't be a problem.
The ad is for women, no matter or what color
they are interesting point texture And obviously this is where
you get to the thrust of the ad, which is
genes right j E A N s. But really talking
about G E n ees. And so when you have
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an ad featuring you know what, whatever, pick your race,
in this case it happened to be white, you have
an ad picturing a very attractive, accomplished person who happens
to be of that race, and the thrust of the
ad is I have superior genes. At that point, does
there become a problem with that message? Does it bother
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you on any level? Dan Happy one hundred years on
air to Koa that from Alexa boy and I'm so
sad to be missing that party.
Speaker 14 (21:43):
Two.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
Yeah it's tonight.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
Yeah yeah, No, but after this, clients come first on
your behalf, sir. All you can all you can, absolutely right,
you know what's really you can wind them?
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Yeah wow yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Koa one hundred years old and we will talk about
that separately and maybe get some folks on. But what
a legacy and obviously still going strong. Dan, there's target
marketing towards many different races.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
And groups, no question about it. There is no question
about it.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
So I'd say the overwhelming consensus, like one hundred percent
from the audience is yeah, if this ad is targeted
toward whites, which it clearly is.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
That tet people don't have any trouble with that at all. Dan.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
How come only white murderers in the news aren't given
a bond? Where does that come from? I don't think
that's true. By the way, Dan, the commercial is not
targeting any specific race. I think most women want their
butts to look good whatever pants they wear. I don't
think there's any question about that. What does the same
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thing apply to men?
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Ryan?
Speaker 14 (22:51):
Are you?
Speaker 4 (22:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (22:52):
I think we've seen those ads right a lot of
times for wrangler jeans.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
I think you know.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Oh, I'm so glad you mentioned that, because you know
the Wrangler ad they do where they show this guy
in a cowboy hat walking out of a diner and
his jeans are like tight, like a a woman's jeans,
a girl's jeans. I think that guy looks like such
a fool. I mean, he looks like the opposite of
a manly man, the opposite of.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
A cowboy, doesn't he Yeah, you got a point. I
mean he's a good.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
Looking guy facially, but but to me, that's not the
image of a of a strong, attractive man is what
tight jeans And I don't think I don't think that's
the men's style.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
It depends. Well, think about it.
Speaker 5 (23:37):
If if you're wrangling cattle, you know, wrangler, and you're
a cowboy, you do want rather tight fitting jeans, Dad,
you don't want to be loose.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
And you know that sort of thing.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Right, talking about the style, the fashion, I think I
think for men, the idea with jeans isn't oh, I
got to make my butt look good.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
I mean I think you do. I think a guy
I want women.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
To notice, you want him to notice that.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
I know that you know, Yeah, I'm I'll put together
in that regard.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
I'm just knowing, yeah, I'm you're a very gifted.
Speaker 5 (24:10):
Not I'm talking not like skinny Jeames though, That's where
I want to differentiate this, like yeah, well formed, well fitted,
but kind of that boot cut, you know.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
And and the irony of this with the Sydney sweeneyad
you know that's focused so much on on the whole
butt thing is Listen. She she's a beautiful woman. I
think she's an excellent actress, academically accomplished. But if you're
just looking at this from a physical standpoint, I don't
think that's her standout feature. But anyway, okay, well, let's
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go to the phone lines. I want to keep mixing
in these texts. This is an extraordinarily good day of
text today. Three or three someone three eight, two, five,
five the number ros. Who do we have next? You're
on the Dan Kaplis Show. Richard and Carbondale. Welcome to
the show.
Speaker 12 (25:00):
Dan, I'm the guy, the beyond the obvious guy.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
You may oh, thank you, Richard.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
I remember you well. We were talking about, you know,
new names for the show and it was such a compliment.
Thank you and you're a comic also, well.
Speaker 12 (25:17):
Good Ryan, I love your show. That's great, thank you,
and Dan always good. I'd love to listen to you guys.
But anyway, I called just because on the last segment
you played, and you know, I have not seen the
whole commercial. I think Kelly just told me there's three
versions of it. But anyway, I heard her last statement
and it makes your butt look good. Well, in my mind,
(25:40):
I don't know why, I had a sudden flash of
somewhere in the future here a meme, if you will,
of a lawsuit for false advertising, and in my mind
I met you robust shape of women, if you will, right,
and they put them on, but it doesn't make their
butt look that good, So that's false advertising.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Okay, well wait for that class action right there?
Speaker 12 (26:04):
Yeah, real quick too, dad jokes. You'll like the first one,
you know where fish like to go to have fun.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Nod Okay, yeah, that's.
Speaker 12 (26:21):
Not going to offend. But jumper Cables go into a
bar and says, okay, you can come in, but don't
start anything.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Appreciate the call.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
It is truly always great to hear from Richard. Hey,
this Sydney Sweeney at if if you haven't heard it yet.
Let's go with cut three. This is the shorter version
that and just picture her laying down, reclined. It's it's
meant to be very sexy.
Speaker 6 (26:47):
Chans are passed down from parents to offspring, often determining
traits like her color, personality and even eye color.
Speaker 7 (26:58):
My jeans are blue Sydney as great genes.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
And then compare that to the Brookshields ad and again
this I think far more legitimately controversial. She was fifteen
at the time she's rolling around on the floor. It's
obviously meant to be overtly sex like Cut eight.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
Place the secret of.
Speaker 10 (27:18):
Life lies hidden in the genetic code. Genes a fundamental
in determining.
Speaker 11 (27:23):
The characteristics of an individual and passing on these characteristics
two succeeding generations. Occasionally, certain conditions produce a structural change
in the gem, which we'll bring about the process of evolution.
Speaker 10 (27:40):
This may occur in one or more of the following ways. Firstly,
by selective mating, in which is single gene type proof
superior and transmitting its genes to future generations. Secondly, by
gene drift, in which certain genes may fade away while
other genes crisist, and finally, by natural selection, which filters
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out those genes better equipped than others to endure in
the environment.
Speaker 11 (28:07):
This may result in the origin of an entirely.
Speaker 10 (28:10):
New species which brings us to Calvins and the survival
of the.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Fittest Calvin klin jeans.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
So I think that more legitimately controversial given her age,
the overt sexualization. They're rolling around on the floor stuff
assuming different positions.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Yeah, that one was not subtle at all. Textures.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Dan, considering American egos, primary market is young white people,
yet it's probably directed at them. If you know your market,
you target toward it. I don't cry because black shampoo
isn't targeted toward me. What is black shampoo?
Speaker 5 (28:44):
Ryan shampoo meant for the texture of the hair of
black people?
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Okay, which is different? Okay? Can you think of a
brand name or anything like that. I just wasn't.
Speaker 4 (28:55):
I know you're black, well, that they exist.
Speaker 5 (28:57):
I mean, it's like anybody, like, there's shampoo for people
to fine hair, with thick hair, with oily hair, with dandruff,
you know.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Yeah, yeah, Okay.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Dan Arby's has the meats is an obvious deep bass voice.
So why can't Sydney Sweeney have the genes?
Speaker 4 (29:16):
I remember that Bobby's the meats.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Yeah, I'm not I'm not sure I'm getting the point
here myself. Dan American Eagle also has men's clothes. Seems
like we need a hot male model to do the
same for men. I'm here for that as well. Gina
in Springfield, Well, you know that's common, right, it's got
to be coming.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
I mean, I'm with you that the ad.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
I mean, it's it's just great creative, genius marketing. I
don't believe there's anything at all racist, fastest, anything like
that about it. But there's no question what they're doing there, right,
And so yeah, I think they've probably got a campaign
put together where the next version is going to be
some super attractive guy. Do you think now they'll find
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it easier to get say, and who would h Kelly
cantellisys Who would a hot Hollywood male star be right
now saying that same demo?
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Maybe?
Speaker 5 (30:09):
Oh, like mid twenties, I know about that young, but
the older ones are like Ryan Gosling, Ryan Reynolds, Brad Pitt.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
I could see any one of those doing a commercial
like that.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
I'm not sure that jeans would work as well for them.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
But what anybody on adding jeans twenty five thirty demo?
Speaker 4 (30:25):
You've seen Thumb and Louise.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
No, yeah, uh, I thought those were women.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
Well, he's in in the early scene. Okay, you gotta
watch that one. What you gotta watch that one?
Speaker 2 (30:36):
They me, I gotta watch a lot of movies.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
I think she'd enjoyed if you watched that movie with her.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Oh really?
Speaker 4 (30:41):
Oh yeah?
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Well yeah, good to know, Good to know, Dan. The
problem is, Oh that this one I think is just
not serious, Dan, What are you talking about? Almost all
ads and all forms of media feature very attractive people.
It isn't like this is new. Their stock is going
up because it's become a meme stock. You know what's
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interesting on the stock front. Oh wow, I'm sorry, I
got so caught up in this. I'm lating to break.
Let me tell you on the other side, because I'm
not sure this is helping their stock.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
You're on the Dan Capla Show.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 6 (31:19):
Chans are passed down from parents to offspring, often determining
traits like higher color, personality, and even eye color.
Speaker 7 (31:29):
My jeans are blue. Sydney Sweeney has great genes.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Yeah, and when we get done with the next caller
or two, I want to tell you why, at its core,
I have no problem with this add and I think
the vast majority of the controversy over this is fake,
that that the people are complaining don't even believe it themselves.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
Let's uh, let's start in a row. Talk to Holly.
You're on the Dan Caplis Show.
Speaker 14 (31:54):
Welcome, Hey, Dan, I just wanted to call what I
was really surprised because I hadn't. I haven't seen the ad,
so I didn't. But you've been explaining it well enough
and I got enough just to know what it's all about.
So that's fine. But I wanted to tell you I'm
old enough to remember the heming White girls. Do you
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remember the hemming white girls? You might not be that old.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
No, I'm not remembering.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
But I.
Speaker 14 (32:27):
Think you can google at all. Yeah, I think you
can google them and you'll see them. The picture that
they are the most famous for was a picture of
all five of them and they're all sitting there. They're naked,
but nothing is showing that you can actually see what's happening.
(32:47):
But all five of those girls had the most incredible
capacity when it came to their style, and each one
of them was different than the other one.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
You know, I'm trying to look it up right now.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
Were they advertising the liquor? What were they advertising?
Speaker 14 (33:07):
You know, they weren't advertising anything.
Speaker 12 (33:09):
They were art.
Speaker 14 (33:11):
Oh I said art, and so yeah, they were famous.
They were the elite class that kind of stuff, and
it was more like that. But so I think, my
honest opinion of this is whenever the Democrats or whenever
(33:31):
the lefties can find something to complain and bitch about,
they just do to see if it is sick.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
Yeah they yea.
Speaker 14 (33:40):
The girls were like way back in the sixties or seventies, okay,
and there's there's no way they just they have to
make something out of everything.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Yeah yeah, so true, so true.
Speaker 14 (33:54):
And I just quickly say, real quick thing to Ryan. Bryan,
I'm sorry I don't have the ability to text to you,
so thank you for having Dan danielle On and.
Speaker 12 (34:07):
Lauren Bolbert on like you do, and.
Speaker 14 (34:11):
All of these guys, Brockler and the rest of them.
It's just been great. I've heard them all in the
last few weeks and I just really appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
Hey, you to want to get a room. I might
want to cut a promo from that.
Speaker 12 (34:27):
Yeah, that's good.
Speaker 14 (34:28):
That's good.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Later, thanks, Holly, appreciate it. Yeah, yeah, I'd.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
Like some of that love from Holly three L three
two five five next, d A n.
Speaker 5 (34:41):
We don't have an idea on the the feral female
that's stalking your boat up there, Dan.
Speaker 4 (34:48):
So it might be a little across a little connection,
there is it.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
You think it's you think it's maybe. Okay, Hey, let
me play this Sydney's again for you and tell you why.
I have no problem whatsoever with this. I think the
controversy over it is fake. If not ninety nine percent
of it, if not one hundred percent of it, ninety
nine percent of it is fake.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
Cut three again please.
Speaker 6 (35:15):
Chans are passed down from parents to offspring, often determining
traits like her color, personality, and even eye color.
Speaker 7 (35:25):
My jeans are blue, Sidney Sweeney has grete genes.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
Yeah, Okay, obviously they're saying this particular woman who happens
to be white and as all these other things going
for has great genes. And they're obviously talking about genes genes,
So what there's no suggestion whatsoever, that these are the
only great genes.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
Right.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
So that's why I think any kind of complaint about
this of any kind is probably fake. And if somebody
is sincerely complaining about this, they need to see a
neurologists because they just haven't thought it through. There's no
suggestion am I missing something Ryan in none of these spots,
and we played all the different variations.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
In none of these spots.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
Is she's suggesting that her genes, which made her all
of these attractive things, are superior to anybody else's genes,
and particularly no implication superior to any other race. Though again,
once we talk in those terms, then you get into,
you know, the whole idea that race really isn't a
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genetic construct as much as it is a social content.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
But without going there, do you.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
Get any suggestion in these ads that her genes are
the only good genes or the only great genes.
Speaker 5 (36:46):
No, let me explain why this would apply to anybody
watching the ad. No matter what color they were, what
planet they're from, anybody can buy those blue genes, which
is what she's selling for American Eagle, and wear.
Speaker 4 (36:59):
Those same genes and be in the same club and
do what she's doing. You can get those genes at
the store. That's the product.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
Text her Dan.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
How about the new Leita beauty spokesperson, it's a trans
with the beard.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
I saw that story, right, And why would they think
that's going to work.
Speaker 4 (37:18):
For them, for anybody?
Speaker 2 (37:19):
Really? I mean right?
Speaker 4 (37:20):
You know narrow casting.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
Well, and it's like I mean, and we've talked about
it in depth before and we will again, but.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
That bubble is burst, right.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
It doesn't mean any less respect for an individual happens
to be trans, et cetera. But this whole idea that
as a society we are going to be forced to
say that something that's not true is true.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
No, the Left was defeated and we don't have to
do that. We were never going to do it.
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:15):
In the American way is people like good jeans, right,
people like to wear good jeans, And all of a
sudden we have this controversy explode over the Sydney Sweeney Ads.
So I want to come out of the gate with
that today. I think the whole thing's fascinating and I think,
you know, we've all got it figured out on the surface, right,
But I think there's another layer to it, so I
want to dig into that. So I want to go
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there and then much more ahead in the show today.
My apologies Ryan to you and everybody else from my
sudden departure during yesterday's show was completely unplanned.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
I was having a blast.
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Lines are completely jammed with people talking about our name topic,
you know, the best names for boys, girls, names being
self fulfilling, shaping kind of prophecies for people.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
And then all of a.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Sudden, I'm gone, can'ter a thing, and I understand Alexa
texted Dan, hopefully nothing happened to you yesterday when you
disappeared off air. I figured Kyle Clark would report if
you were kidnapped by the stalker. Thank you, Alexa for
your concern. I think Kyle Clark would have thrown a party.
But no, nothing as interesting as that. It was just
(01:20):
a widespread internet outage up here in the mountains. And
so you know, I'm probably i should pull it up
on my phone and see I'm probably about eight thousand
feet up, you know, in a cabin on the side
of the mountain, just hidden away doing trial prep and
and but every now and then you have one of
these inconveniences that comes from being outside of the metro
(01:41):
areas three or three seven one three A two five
five text d A N five seven seven through nine.
But thank goodness, there was a superstar talk show host
just waiting to launch, and Kelly, we appreciate all of that.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
Thank you.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Hated.
Speaker 4 (01:55):
Yeah, I'm reminded of the scene.
Speaker 5 (01:57):
Please tell me you've seen Wayne's World, the original movie.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
I'm not sure.
Speaker 4 (02:02):
Okay, well that's a no. I'm betting Amy has.
Speaker 5 (02:05):
But anyway, there's the scene where Wayne himself Mike Myers
storms off the set of his own show because he
doesn't want to do the corporate shilling for this arcade.
Sponsor is played by Brian Doyle Murray, who of course
is the guy that authored Caddy Shack. But Garth is
left to host the show and he doesn't know how
to handle it or what.
Speaker 4 (02:23):
To do, and he just zooms in on his face
and he's staring. It's like his head's on scanners. Man,
that was me, That was me.
Speaker 3 (02:32):
That was not the case yesterday. If you're new to
this show, thank you for being here. But Ryan is
an extremely accomplished talk show host who does a tremendous
show two to four Monday through Friday in the Denver markets.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
So you just assume took over seamlessly.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
Well, the good part about that is what you just said, Dan.
Speaker 5 (02:50):
We were loaded for bear with calls, and we just
kind of kept on going with that part of the
topic and I got into some stories and I kind
of took it down the rabbit hole there.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
So yeah, and you know there might have been other
days where I've been, oh, thank you guy. You know,
the show ends early, you know'll just go get some
other stuff done.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
But but I was having a.
Speaker 3 (03:06):
Blast yesterday I know your name thing, and we were
getting great callers on that, like that lady who named
your boy Cannon.
Speaker 4 (03:12):
Cannon.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Now that is a gift to a child, right because
that boy that's going to help him in a lot
of different ways. And we're just getting so many great
name calls. So if anybody wants to continue that today,
I'm sure we will have time for it. Three oh
three seven one three A two five five the number
text d an five seven seven three nine. I'm really
intrigued by this whole controversy over the Sydney Sweeney ad.
(03:34):
And if you're not familiar with her, she's an American actress.
She's twenty seven. She's been in a bunch of TV
shows and movies. I think she's a fine actress and
you know, a great personal backstory.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
What do you think?
Speaker 3 (03:49):
What do you think the common thread is between Sydney
Sweeney and Colorado Hero and hopefully soon worldwide Saint Kendrick Castill.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
What do you think they haven't? WHOA?
Speaker 4 (04:01):
I did not see it going there.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
I hope not. Wow. Yeah, what do you think they
have in common? Yeah?
Speaker 4 (04:08):
I couldn't even venture a guest robotics.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
She was a member of the robotics team in high school,
valedictorian of her class at Brighton Hall School in Burdbank, California.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
So wow, you get.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Big into robotics, big athlete, everything else. So you know
nothing but positive about Sydney Sweeney. So just if you're
not familiar with the story, picture twenty seven year old actress,
attractive blonde.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
How else would you describe O. Ryan? You can probably
do a better description as a single dame.
Speaker 5 (04:40):
She has well proportioned curves, curves, curve, I can say that, ye,
but not like you know, well proportioned curves.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Okay, okay, good clinical way to put it, Kelly. So
anyway that the story is you probably know by now right,
is that American Eagle hires her as a spokesperson and
cuts these spots. And as you listen to the spots,
if you haven't seen them yet, just picture someone who
meets the description. Ryan Offerd is somebody and indifferent spots.
(05:12):
She's laying down in the spot you're about to hear.
In another spot, she's with a really cool Ford Mustang.
I'd put it probably a sixty five or sixty six
et cetera. But the theme's the same, right, very attractive
young woman in American Eagle jeans which look a lot
better on her than they would on me. But let's
go with how about the shorter spots she did cut
(05:33):
three please.
Speaker 6 (05:34):
Chans are passed down from parents to offspring, often determining
traits like high color, personality, and even eye color.
Speaker 7 (05:45):
My jeans are blue, Sydney Sweeney has great jeens.
Speaker 3 (05:50):
Yeah, so during that spot, she's shall we say, reclined,
and her her shirt she must have been in a
hurry because I think there's only one button, and so
they try to with the camera angles give you a
kind of a glimpse of her upper body under the shirt.
And so it's it's meant to be the way it sounds, right,
(06:10):
It's it's meant to be alluring. And yes, so that
that is the spot, and there are variations, we'll get
into those. That's that's generated the big controversy as blonde haired,
blue eye, attractive female talking about her good genes. And
we'll play some of the audio of some of the critics.
But want to get your take on that. What do
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you think American Eagle was trying to do there? Three
or three seven one three A two five five the
number text d A N five seven seven three nine
Any any beef with what American Eagle is trying to do. There,
any credence to some of the complaints that it's racial,
and believe me, I understand by even putting that out there.
(06:51):
We then get into this pretty deep scientific discussion of
wait a second, is is race really a genetic constant
or is it more social construct? All of that, but
criticism that it's racial, criticism that it's fascist, you know, Hitler,
master race, genetic modeling, et cetera. So want to get
(07:11):
your take to all of that, on all of that,
pardon me longer form versions cut to please, Ryan.
Speaker 6 (07:21):
I'm not here to tell you to buy American egle chains,
and I definitely won't say that they're the most comfortable
chance I've ever worn, or that they make your butt
look amazing.
Speaker 7 (07:34):
I'm going to need to do that.
Speaker 6 (07:36):
But if you said that you want to buy the jeans,
I'm not going to stop you. But us we're clear,
this is not me telling you to buy American engle chance.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
Sidy Sweeney has very keenes.
Speaker 7 (07:48):
You see what I did there?
Speaker 2 (07:49):
Right? Okay?
Speaker 3 (07:51):
So that's that's another version of it. There's a version
of it, the one with the mustang I described where
she starts it under the hood, and then obviously they're
trying to make this these spots sexy, right, so they
have camera angles taking advantage of her bentover under the hood,
and then it ends with her, you know, just placing
her hands on her backside to kind of emphasize the
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genes under the pretense of cleaning her hands.
Speaker 2 (08:18):
Is that a good description? There?
Speaker 4 (08:19):
Ryan very apt?
Speaker 3 (08:22):
Okay, okay, And so let's listen to what Marcus Collins
had to say about this on CNN Cut for Place.
Speaker 8 (08:29):
One person who weighed in on all of this was
Texas Senator Ted Cruz. He wrote on X Wow, now
the crazy left has come out against beautiful women. I'm
sure that will pull well. That has gotten a range
of reactions online. He's making obviously this political connection here.
(08:50):
Talk to us about why this so called woke culture
has drawn so much backlash here in the US.
Speaker 9 (08:57):
I think that that is probably poor in lazy attribution.
I nothing to do with left leaniness and nothing to
do with quote unquote woke, at least the way woke
has been repositioned and recontextualized. I think this has everything
to do with meaning how.
Speaker 4 (09:14):
You though it?
Speaker 3 (09:16):
H Yeah, so how did you see this? And we'll
continue his comments after the break. I want to take
some calls and text on this. Three oh three seven
one three eight two five five the number a sample
of this texture to da N five seven seven three nine, Dan,
Conservative white people want more ads with white people, fewer brown, black,
fewer mixed race couples, no homosexuals, make America great again.
(09:40):
Thank you, Texter, because you so fundamentally misunderstand conservative people.
And listen, I was a Democrat for many years and
and I was beyond shocked once I became a Republican
started to go go into events, et cetera. And it
just completely defies the stereotype that somebody like this text
puts on people. But it does raise the question is
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American Eagle, through this ad and series of ads, is
American Eagle directly targeting white people to buy their genes?
Speaker 2 (10:11):
And if so, is that wrong?
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Three or three seven one three eight two five five
text d A N five seven seven three nine.
Speaker 2 (10:18):
You're on the Dan Capitlas Show.
Speaker 4 (10:21):
And now back to the Dankaplas show podcast.
Speaker 6 (10:25):
Chains are passed down from parents to offspring, often determining
traits like higher color personality and eve an eye color.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
My genes are.
Speaker 7 (10:36):
Blue, Sydney Sweeney has great genes.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Yeah, So talking about this ad that's generated a lot
of attention and a lot of controversy. Now, how much
of the controversy is real? My guess is that that
a fair amount of it is fake, and who knows,
some of it may be generated by American Eagle, which
would probably be brilliant on their part.
Speaker 2 (10:55):
But as you can see that for those who are
beefing about it, the beef is about, you know, this.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Very attractive twenty seven year old woman who happens to
be white, blonde hair, blue eyed, you know, doing an
ad based on her great genes j e a ns
not ge n ees. But obviously that's the messaging and
it has some history right that this is a takeoff
on a famous slash infamous ad that Brookes Shields did
(11:24):
when she was fifteen years old.
Speaker 2 (11:25):
Cut eight Please this was for Calvin Klein.
Speaker 10 (11:31):
A secret of life lies hidden in the genetic coat.
Geens a fundamental and determining.
Speaker 11 (11:37):
The characteristics of an individual and passing on these characteristics
two succeeding generations.
Speaker 10 (11:44):
Occasionally, certain conditions produce a structural change in the gen which.
Speaker 11 (11:49):
We'll bring about. The process of evolution.
Speaker 7 (11:53):
Has ma occur in one or more of the following ways.
Speaker 10 (11:57):
Firstly by selective mating, which is single gene type proof
superior and transmitting its genes to future generations. Secondly by
gene drift, in which certain genes may fade away while
other genes persist.
Speaker 12 (12:14):
And finally by natural selection, which filters.
Speaker 10 (12:17):
Out those genes better equipped than others to endure in
the environment.
Speaker 11 (12:21):
This may result in the origin of an entirely.
Speaker 10 (12:23):
New species which brings us to Calvins and the survival
of the.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Fittest Calvin KLEINB genes.
Speaker 3 (12:32):
Yeah, and you may have wondered what she was doing
there during that ad. She was pretty much rolling around
on the ground in a bunch of different ways. The ad, obviously,
like the Sydney SWEENEYAD, intended to have sex appeal. Now,
I think the Brooks Shields AD was much more questionable
than this one because she was fifteen at the time
and it was obviously meant to be the overt sexual
(12:55):
imaging in that ad and using a fifteen year old.
I think that was wrong Sidney's tweeny twenty seven. I
think the more interesting issue with the American Eagle AD,
which was I didn't think Ryan anywhere near as overtly
sex driven as the Brookshields. Add The interesting thing with
the American Eagle AD is a do you think they're
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intentionally targeting white people with the spot? And if so,
do you think that's wrong? Three O three seven one
three a two five five the number text d a
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not amused?
Speaker 2 (13:31):
Cuts six please.
Speaker 6 (13:33):
Jans are passed on from parents to offspring, often determining
traits like her color, personality, and even eye color.
Speaker 7 (13:44):
My genes are.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Blue City Sweeney Hasbery Keynes.
Speaker 13 (13:48):
James are passed down from pirates to offspring, often determined
in triits like high air color personality, maybe my color
my Jens are bloe.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
So that's U Doja Cat's take.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
So we'll continue to work in some of the criticism,
But what would really like your take on this, this
question of okay, is that spot directly targeted to white people?
And if so, is there anything wrong with that? Three
oh three seven one three A two five five text
d A N five seven seventh through nine. Before we
get to that, Ryan, another pretty tough trivia question for you.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
And American Eagle.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
What kind of tangential association would American Eagle have with
a former very prominent and talented talk show host at
six point thirty KHW in Denver.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
Ellen Berg?
Speaker 3 (14:46):
But yeah, American Eagle used to be part of Silverman's Men'swear. No,
not the same, not the same as Craig Silver successful
in many other ways, but Silverman's Men'swear. Interesting, Yeah, was
American Eagle Outfitters and then American Eagle has gone on
to do some pretty good things. But let me ask you,
(15:07):
do you think this campaign is helping or hurting American
Eagle three or three someone three eight two five five
text d A N five seven seven three nine. Uh,
what do you think, my friend? Do you think this
ad is targeted toward white people? And if so, do
you have a beef with that.
Speaker 4 (15:25):
Targeted? I don't know.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
I think it's kind of the traditional appeal of advertising,
which is broader base and how do you maximize appeal
to the largest number of potential consumers. It's just along
those lines, and they are going for in my view,
what the wheelhouse is for the majority of people that
they would find to be attractive. And there's nothing wrong
(15:48):
with that that you identify certain traits that are inherently attractive,
that you don't have to pretend that other traits are
attractive when we really know that they're not. And whether
that's body shape or where they want to characterize that
as Sidney Sweeney has the look of a young, vibrant, healthy,
attractive woman, and why wouldn't you use somebody like that
(16:10):
as your spokesmodel for your product? And it's successful, And
it goes to the saying as well, Dan, bad publicity,
even though I don't think it even qualifies as that
with the criticism for the left, it's an acknowledgment, but
bad publicity is better than none, and I think had
there not been this backlash, it wouldn't be as successful
for American Eagle.
Speaker 4 (16:27):
This has been a boon for them.
Speaker 5 (16:29):
Their stocks are going up and their gene sales or
skyrocketing as well, So this has been a massive marketing
success for them.
Speaker 2 (16:37):
Are you more likely to buy American Eagle now?
Speaker 5 (16:40):
I would if I had a daughter or you know,
somebody else in my life that would wear those.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
Type of genes that Sidney Sweeney has on. But like
you said, they look a lot better on her than
they would on me.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
Well, hey, but American Eagle, isn't that I mean that
seemed as much at men as women, right the brain?
Speaker 2 (16:54):
I think so, yeah, yeah, and boy, our text are
exploding on this.
Speaker 3 (16:59):
Let me get to one the touches on your last point, Dan,
if the Sydney ad was some blank, blanking, ugly, blank
blank lives would be happy that from Abe. You know,
one of the reasons I'm a reason I was happy
to see this ad. I do have a concern with
it in another way, But a reason I was happy
(17:21):
to see this ad is it was an overt attempt
to use somebody young and healthy and attractive, and I
think that's healthy for America. This whole craziness we got into,
you know where, like the Dylan mulvaney stuff. You know,
you're featuring some a man wearing a dress and and
(17:41):
all that other goofiness. To me, that's just not healthy,
you know what I mean That there's I don't think
there's anything wrong with featuring some really attractive people in
ads like this. So to me, that that was a
positive thing. But if the ad is specifically targeted at
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white people, does that raise a concern? And then some
of the other Texters say, Dan, the woe crowd isn't
happy unless they have something to be mad about. That
is so true, right, And Dan, I am a conservative.
This is what conservatives want. Do you want homosexual ads
more than boy? These texts are flying in Dan. Us
(18:24):
advertising has spent the last few years telling us that
three hundred and fifty pound woman is healthy and they
are no longer white married couples, biological male and biological
female with kids and commercials or ads.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Normal people are sick of all the virtue signaling.
Speaker 3 (18:37):
I think probably ninety nine percent of the audience right
now agrees with that. Dan, there's nothing wrong with that
advertisement with Sidney Sweeney. A similar Genes commercial was done
featuring Brookshields in the eighties, which we played on which
we just played. Yet don't they remember those good looking
girls eating a sloppy Carl's Junior burger?
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Geesh?
Speaker 3 (18:57):
If this is a sample of look, get some all crazy,
they really need to get a life. So and a
lot more great text on that, but nobody's addressed my
direct question, if this is specifically aimed at white people,
is that wrong? Three h three seven one three eight
(19:18):
two five five. You're on the Dan Kapla Show.
Speaker 4 (19:22):
You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.
Speaker 3 (19:25):
That is absolutely perfect, and I think it captures the
sense of ninety nine percent of our textures, which which
I agree with great the Sydney Sweeney d Listen. There's
a lot I like about it. I have one question
with it, but one of the things I like about
it is, yeah, I mean, think about think about where
the left has been taking our.
Speaker 2 (19:43):
Society, you know, trying to.
Speaker 3 (19:47):
Undermine what we've always kind of valued in America, et cetera,
and fundamentally transform us in an awful way. And part
of that has been ads featuring men in women's dresses
and things like that. And so in featuring a very healthy, attractive, smart, accomplished,
academically and otherwise woman in an ad like this, I
(20:09):
think is wonderful. You know, that's kind of traditional Americana.
I'm fine with all of that, but I do want
to start to get some response to this fair question,
which is is this ad specifically targeted toward white people?
And if so, is there any problem with that. I
want to get to some textures. Some who do, to
(20:31):
their credit, tackle this, Dan to Danne five seven seven
three down. How many commercials are entirely in Spanish, obviously
targeted to Spanish speakers, fair point? And I don't have
any problem with those spots, Dan, are commercials with black
people aimed only at blacks. There are people who find
racism in anything, fair point.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
Dan.
Speaker 3 (20:53):
If the ad had a black or Hispanic woman that
was as hot as Sydney, there wouldn't be a problem.
The ad is for women, no matter or what color
they are interesting point texture And obviously this is where
you get to the thrust of the ad, which is
genes right j E A N s. But really talking
about G E n ees. And so when you have
(21:14):
an ad featuring you know what, whatever, pick your race,
in this case it happened to be white, you have
an ad picturing a very attractive, accomplished person who happens
to be of that race, and the thrust of the
ad is I have superior genes. At that point, does
there become a problem with that message? Does it bother
(21:35):
you on any level? Dan Happy one hundred years on
air to Koa that from Alexa boy and I'm so
sad to be missing that party.
Speaker 14 (21:43):
Two.
Speaker 4 (21:43):
Yeah it's tonight.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
Yeah yeah, No, but after this, clients come first on
your behalf, sir. All you can all you can, absolutely right,
you know what's really you can wind them?
Speaker 2 (21:55):
Yeah wow yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:57):
Koa one hundred years old and we will talk about
that separately and maybe get some folks on. But what
a legacy and obviously still going strong. Dan, there's target
marketing towards many different races.
Speaker 2 (22:11):
And groups, no question about it. There is no question
about it.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
So I'd say the overwhelming consensus, like one hundred percent
from the audience is yeah, if this ad is targeted
toward whites, which it clearly is.
Speaker 2 (22:23):
That tet people don't have any trouble with that at all. Dan.
Speaker 3 (22:27):
How come only white murderers in the news aren't given
a bond? Where does that come from? I don't think
that's true. By the way, Dan, the commercial is not
targeting any specific race. I think most women want their
butts to look good whatever pants they wear. I don't
think there's any question about that. What does the same
(22:48):
thing apply to men?
Speaker 2 (22:50):
Ryan?
Speaker 14 (22:51):
Are you?
Speaker 4 (22:52):
Yeah?
Speaker 5 (22:52):
I think we've seen those ads right a lot of
times for wrangler jeans.
Speaker 4 (22:56):
I think you know.
Speaker 3 (22:57):
Oh, I'm so glad you mentioned that, because you know
the Wrangler ad they do where they show this guy
in a cowboy hat walking out of a diner and
his jeans are like tight, like a a woman's jeans,
a girl's jeans. I think that guy looks like such
a fool. I mean, he looks like the opposite of
a manly man, the opposite of.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
A cowboy, doesn't he Yeah, you got a point. I
mean he's a good.
Speaker 3 (23:22):
Looking guy facially, but but to me, that's not the
image of a of a strong, attractive man is what
tight jeans And I don't think I don't think that's
the men's style.
Speaker 4 (23:35):
It depends. Well, think about it.
Speaker 5 (23:37):
If if you're wrangling cattle, you know, wrangler, and you're
a cowboy, you do want rather tight fitting jeans, Dad,
you don't want to be loose.
Speaker 4 (23:44):
And you know that sort of thing.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Right, talking about the style, the fashion, I think I
think for men, the idea with jeans isn't oh, I
got to make my butt look good.
Speaker 4 (23:56):
I mean I think you do. I think a guy
I want women.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
To notice, you want him to notice that.
Speaker 4 (24:04):
I know that you know, Yeah, I'm I'll put together
in that regard.
Speaker 2 (24:07):
I'm just knowing, yeah, I'm you're a very gifted.
Speaker 5 (24:10):
Not I'm talking not like skinny Jeames though, That's where
I want to differentiate this, like yeah, well formed, well fitted,
but kind of that boot cut, you know.
Speaker 3 (24:20):
And and the irony of this with the Sydney sweeneyad
you know that's focused so much on on the whole
butt thing is Listen. She she's a beautiful woman. I
think she's an excellent actress, academically accomplished. But if you're
just looking at this from a physical standpoint, I don't
think that's her standout feature. But anyway, okay, well, let's
(24:44):
go to the phone lines. I want to keep mixing
in these texts. This is an extraordinarily good day of
text today. Three or three someone three eight, two, five,
five the number ros. Who do we have next? You're
on the Dan Kaplis Show. Richard and Carbondale. Welcome to
the show.
Speaker 12 (25:00):
Dan, I'm the guy, the beyond the obvious guy.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
You may oh, thank you, Richard.
Speaker 3 (25:09):
I remember you well. We were talking about, you know,
new names for the show and it was such a compliment.
Thank you and you're a comic also, well.
Speaker 12 (25:17):
Good Ryan, I love your show. That's great, thank you,
and Dan always good. I'd love to listen to you guys.
But anyway, I called just because on the last segment
you played, and you know, I have not seen the
whole commercial. I think Kelly just told me there's three
versions of it. But anyway, I heard her last statement
and it makes your butt look good. Well, in my mind,
(25:40):
I don't know why, I had a sudden flash of
somewhere in the future here a meme, if you will,
of a lawsuit for false advertising, and in my mind
I met you robust shape of women, if you will, right,
and they put them on, but it doesn't make their
butt look that good, So that's false advertising.
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Okay, well wait for that class action right there?
Speaker 12 (26:04):
Yeah, real quick too, dad jokes. You'll like the first one,
you know where fish like to go to have fun.
Speaker 3 (26:14):
Nod Okay, yeah, that's.
Speaker 12 (26:21):
Not going to offend. But jumper Cables go into a
bar and says, okay, you can come in, but don't
start anything.
Speaker 2 (26:31):
Appreciate the call.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
It is truly always great to hear from Richard. Hey,
this Sydney Sweeney at if if you haven't heard it yet.
Let's go with cut three. This is the shorter version
that and just picture her laying down, reclined. It's it's
meant to be very sexy.
Speaker 6 (26:47):
Chans are passed down from parents to offspring, often determining
traits like her color, personality and even eye color.
Speaker 7 (26:58):
My jeans are blue Sydney as great genes.
Speaker 3 (27:03):
And then compare that to the Brookshields ad and again
this I think far more legitimately controversial. She was fifteen
at the time she's rolling around on the floor. It's
obviously meant to be overtly sex like Cut eight.
Speaker 4 (27:17):
Place the secret of.
Speaker 10 (27:18):
Life lies hidden in the genetic code. Genes a fundamental
in determining.
Speaker 11 (27:23):
The characteristics of an individual and passing on these characteristics
two succeeding generations. Occasionally, certain conditions produce a structural change
in the gem, which we'll bring about the process of evolution.
Speaker 10 (27:40):
This may occur in one or more of the following ways. Firstly,
by selective mating, in which is single gene type proof
superior and transmitting its genes to future generations. Secondly, by
gene drift, in which certain genes may fade away while
other genes crisist, and finally, by natural selection, which filters
(28:03):
out those genes better equipped than others to endure in
the environment.
Speaker 11 (28:07):
This may result in the origin of an entirely.
Speaker 10 (28:10):
New species which brings us to Calvins and the survival
of the.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Fittest Calvin klin jeans.
Speaker 3 (28:18):
So I think that more legitimately controversial given her age,
the overt sexualization. They're rolling around on the floor stuff
assuming different positions.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
Yeah, that one was not subtle at all. Textures.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Dan, considering American egos, primary market is young white people,
yet it's probably directed at them. If you know your market,
you target toward it. I don't cry because black shampoo
isn't targeted toward me. What is black shampoo?
Speaker 5 (28:44):
Ryan shampoo meant for the texture of the hair of
black people?
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Okay, which is different? Okay? Can you think of a
brand name or anything like that. I just wasn't.
Speaker 4 (28:55):
I know you're black, well, that they exist.
Speaker 5 (28:57):
I mean, it's like anybody, like, there's shampoo for people
to fine hair, with thick hair, with oily hair, with dandruff,
you know.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
Yeah, yeah, Okay.
Speaker 3 (29:07):
Dan Arby's has the meats is an obvious deep bass voice.
So why can't Sydney Sweeney have the genes?
Speaker 4 (29:16):
I remember that Bobby's the meats.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
Yeah, I'm not I'm not sure I'm getting the point
here myself. Dan American Eagle also has men's clothes. Seems
like we need a hot male model to do the
same for men. I'm here for that as well. Gina
in Springfield, Well, you know that's common, right, it's got
to be coming.
Speaker 2 (29:35):
I mean, I'm with you that the ad.
Speaker 3 (29:37):
I mean, it's it's just great creative, genius marketing. I
don't believe there's anything at all racist, fastest, anything like
that about it. But there's no question what they're doing there, right,
And so yeah, I think they've probably got a campaign
put together where the next version is going to be
some super attractive guy. Do you think now they'll find
(30:00):
it easier to get say, and who would h Kelly
cantellisys Who would a hot Hollywood male star be right
now saying that same demo?
Speaker 2 (30:09):
Maybe?
Speaker 5 (30:09):
Oh, like mid twenties, I know about that young, but
the older ones are like Ryan Gosling, Ryan Reynolds, Brad Pitt.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
I could see any one of those doing a commercial
like that.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
I'm not sure that jeans would work as well for them.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
But what anybody on adding jeans twenty five thirty demo?
Speaker 4 (30:25):
You've seen Thumb and Louise.
Speaker 3 (30:27):
No, yeah, uh, I thought those were women.
Speaker 4 (30:32):
Well, he's in in the early scene. Okay, you gotta
watch that one. What you gotta watch that one?
Speaker 2 (30:36):
They me, I gotta watch a lot of movies.
Speaker 4 (30:38):
I think she'd enjoyed if you watched that movie with her.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Oh really?
Speaker 4 (30:41):
Oh yeah?
Speaker 3 (30:41):
Well yeah, good to know, Good to know, Dan. The
problem is, Oh that this one I think is just
not serious, Dan, What are you talking about? Almost all
ads and all forms of media feature very attractive people.
It isn't like this is new. Their stock is going
up because it's become a meme stock. You know what's
(31:03):
interesting on the stock front. Oh wow, I'm sorry, I
got so caught up in this. I'm lating to break.
Let me tell you on the other side, because I'm
not sure this is helping their stock.
Speaker 2 (31:12):
You're on the Dan Capla Show.
Speaker 4 (31:15):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast.
Speaker 6 (31:19):
Chans are passed down from parents to offspring, often determining
traits like higher color, personality, and even eye color.
Speaker 7 (31:29):
My jeans are blue. Sydney Sweeney has great genes.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Yeah, and when we get done with the next caller
or two, I want to tell you why, at its core,
I have no problem with this add and I think
the vast majority of the controversy over this is fake,
that that the people are complaining don't even believe it themselves.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
Let's uh, let's start in a row. Talk to Holly.
You're on the Dan Caplis Show.
Speaker 14 (31:54):
Welcome, Hey, Dan, I just wanted to call what I
was really surprised because I hadn't. I haven't seen the ad,
so I didn't. But you've been explaining it well enough
and I got enough just to know what it's all about.
So that's fine. But I wanted to tell you I'm
old enough to remember the heming White girls. Do you
(32:18):
remember the hemming white girls? You might not be that old.
Speaker 2 (32:22):
No, I'm not remembering.
Speaker 4 (32:25):
But I.
Speaker 14 (32:27):
Think you can google at all. Yeah, I think you
can google them and you'll see them. The picture that
they are the most famous for was a picture of
all five of them and they're all sitting there. They're naked,
but nothing is showing that you can actually see what's happening.
(32:47):
But all five of those girls had the most incredible
capacity when it came to their style, and each one
of them was different than the other one.
Speaker 2 (33:01):
You know, I'm trying to look it up right now.
Speaker 3 (33:03):
Were they advertising the liquor? What were they advertising?
Speaker 14 (33:07):
You know, they weren't advertising anything.
Speaker 12 (33:09):
They were art.
Speaker 14 (33:11):
Oh I said art, and so yeah, they were famous.
They were the elite class that kind of stuff, and
it was more like that. But so I think, my
honest opinion of this is whenever the Democrats or whenever
(33:31):
the lefties can find something to complain and bitch about,
they just do to see if it is sick.
Speaker 3 (33:37):
Yeah they yea.
Speaker 14 (33:40):
The girls were like way back in the sixties or seventies, okay,
and there's there's no way they just they have to
make something out of everything.
Speaker 2 (33:51):
Yeah yeah, so true, so true.
Speaker 14 (33:54):
And I just quickly say, real quick thing to Ryan. Bryan,
I'm sorry I don't have the ability to text to you,
so thank you for having Dan danielle On and.
Speaker 12 (34:07):
Lauren Bolbert on like you do, and.
Speaker 14 (34:11):
All of these guys, Brockler and the rest of them.
It's just been great. I've heard them all in the
last few weeks and I just really appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (34:21):
Hey, you to want to get a room. I might
want to cut a promo from that.
Speaker 12 (34:27):
Yeah, that's good.
Speaker 14 (34:28):
That's good.
Speaker 2 (34:29):
Later, thanks, Holly, appreciate it. Yeah, yeah, I'd.
Speaker 3 (34:36):
Like some of that love from Holly three L three
two five five next, d A n.
Speaker 5 (34:41):
We don't have an idea on the the feral female
that's stalking your boat up there, Dan.
Speaker 4 (34:48):
So it might be a little across a little connection,
there is it.
Speaker 3 (34:53):
You think it's you think it's maybe. Okay, Hey, let
me play this Sydney's again for you and tell you why.
I have no problem whatsoever with this. I think the
controversy over it is fake. If not ninety nine percent
of it, if not one hundred percent of it, ninety
nine percent of it is fake.
Speaker 2 (35:14):
Cut three again please.
Speaker 6 (35:15):
Chans are passed down from parents to offspring, often determining
traits like her color, personality, and even eye color.
Speaker 7 (35:25):
My jeans are blue, Sidney Sweeney has grete genes.
Speaker 3 (35:31):
Yeah, Okay, obviously they're saying this particular woman who happens
to be white and as all these other things going
for has great genes. And they're obviously talking about genes genes,
So what there's no suggestion whatsoever, that these are the
only great genes.
Speaker 2 (35:50):
Right.
Speaker 3 (35:51):
So that's why I think any kind of complaint about
this of any kind is probably fake. And if somebody
is sincerely complaining about this, they need to see a
neurologists because they just haven't thought it through. There's no
suggestion am I missing something Ryan in none of these spots,
and we played all the different variations.
Speaker 2 (36:11):
In none of these spots.
Speaker 3 (36:12):
Is she's suggesting that her genes, which made her all
of these attractive things, are superior to anybody else's genes,
and particularly no implication superior to any other race. Though again,
once we talk in those terms, then you get into,
you know, the whole idea that race really isn't a
(36:33):
genetic construct as much as it is a social content.
Speaker 2 (36:36):
But without going there, do you.
Speaker 3 (36:38):
Get any suggestion in these ads that her genes are
the only good genes or the only great genes.
Speaker 5 (36:46):
No, let me explain why this would apply to anybody
watching the ad. No matter what color they were, what
planet they're from, anybody can buy those blue genes, which
is what she's selling for American Eagle, and wear.
Speaker 4 (36:59):
Those same genes and be in the same club and
do what she's doing. You can get those genes at
the store. That's the product.
Speaker 2 (37:08):
Text her Dan.
Speaker 3 (37:09):
How about the new Leita beauty spokesperson, it's a trans
with the beard.
Speaker 2 (37:13):
I saw that story, right, And why would they think
that's going to work.
Speaker 4 (37:18):
For them, for anybody?
Speaker 2 (37:19):
Really? I mean right?
Speaker 4 (37:20):
You know narrow casting.
Speaker 3 (37:22):
Well, and it's like I mean, and we've talked about
it in depth before and we will again, but.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
That bubble is burst, right.
Speaker 3 (37:32):
It doesn't mean any less respect for an individual happens
to be trans, et cetera. But this whole idea that
as a society we are going to be forced to
say that something that's not true is true.
Speaker 2 (37:44):
No, the Left was defeated and we don't have to
do that. We were never going to do it.
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