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August 4, 2025 34 mins
Alan Dershowitz incredibly asserts that Jeffrey Epstein doesn't fit the technical definition of a pedophile, because he preferred girls aged 16-17, nor was Epstein a trafficker, because he didn't run girls or women for money. Dan dissects this argument.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Dan Kaplis and welcome to today's online podcast
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out our dog our day. You know, it was what
like ninety seven today, and so the concrete driveway we

(00:21):
have had to be like what one twenty and our
dog CALLI twelve years old, big heavy fur and she's
just sprawled out there in the sun on the driveway.
So it's wild, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
What?

Speaker 1 (00:33):
Yeah, hotstone massage. I guess it is amazing the way
God makes everything right, including these animals and their ability
to adapt to temperatures. Anyway, glad you're here. Three at
three seven one three eight two five five text d
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just talking about while we talk about everything else during
the show today is how can we help this do better? Denver?

(00:57):
Right to add do Better Denver on X And what
they do is they document these terrible feelings of the city,
the city administration, etc. And they document what so often
mainstream media won't show you because mainstream media wants to
keep access to these elected officials. But these horrible things happen,
and there are notable and noble examples to what I

(01:19):
just said. Right, there are some people in the mainstream
media who will call Johnston out for some of this stuff,
like a Sean Boyd, but do better. Denver does it
all the time, and so how can we support it,
particularly since it's now under attack from the Denver Post.
In ways, as we talked about Friday, the go so
far beyond what I would consider to be journalistic ethics

(01:41):
or just basic right and wrong, or certainly anything we've
seen in the Denver media before outing just like three
women who just contribute to the site like to open
records requests. So anyway, they must be doing something really
really right to be coming under that kind of attack
from what I can said to be the Democratic Party
in Colorado certainly the Johnston administration, and that's what I

(02:04):
believe is going on here. So how do we support them?
So getting your suggestions on that, including just like mechanically,
if you're driving through Denver and you see one of
these things, which is exhibit A, though we have a
million exhibit a's of the failure of the Johnston administration.
Today's example on the site was a video of what
appeared to be a naked guy in the middle of

(02:25):
an intersection playing with a kiddie pool. So, and that's
not to at all make fun of that person. That's
one of the saddest things you can imagine. But this
is what lefty policies beget and encourage and advance. Right, So,
if you see something like that you want to document,
how do you submit it? So any input you have
on that, we would sure appreciate. Great calls in text

(02:47):
today we need some more callers, you know. It's one
of the fascinating things to me about kind of the
evolution of talk radio over the decades is just so
many more people now would rather text. And that's fine.

Speaker 3 (02:59):
We work for you.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
D A n five seven seven three nine. But I
am a throwback and I love the calls three oh
three seven one three eight two five five, particularly if
you disagree. But but even if you agree, Dan, I
enjoy you having a back and forth with callers. That's
rare on air these days. Yeah, that's interesting and I
get it. You got a lot of great talk show

(03:20):
hosts out there, It's just you know, you get the
text rolling and you can go bang bang bang bang.
I get it. I get that whole format, but but
I do enjoy the callers. Uh, even Eerie Mike. Whatever
happened to our buddy Eerie Mic Well, he went off
the deep end last time by he did, didn't he? Yeah,
cannot insult Kelly on the show. We have very few

(03:41):
rules around here, as you can tell, but you cannot
insult Kelly Dad, did you? And Ryan see a MAGA
supporter was kicked out of Saint Louis soccer stadium for
wearing a mega hat. Person may end up owning that
soccer team. Yeah, at I imagine they want to trouble
getting a law for that. Elan Dershowitz we're talking about

(04:02):
that a little bit as well, because you know, he's
been on the show a bunch and a super smart
guy is saying a really, really dumb thing here and
just trying to understand why in the world he would
say this talking about Epstein, and yeah, everybody knows he
used to represent Epstein, But why do you say this
and why would you even think or believe this?

Speaker 4 (04:23):
Let me make two points that would be very controversial
and you may disagree with them completely. Jeffrey Epstein was
not a pedophile. That term has a specific meaning. It
means people who are sexually attracted to pre pubescent girls
or boys.

Speaker 1 (04:37):
No, no, no, it's people sexually attracted to children. Children.
It's like obscenity, you know when you see it. And
I understand certain statutes, legal statutes have that definition, But
real world, why would he ever try to mount that

(04:58):
defense of Epstein? And by the way, go back and
look at the police reports. The complaints about Epstein that
eventually took him down started in Palm Beach and started
with the mother of a fourteen year old because the
fourteen year old came to her mom told her what happened,
and the mom went to the police. And what Epstein
was doing was he was using like thirteen fourteen fifteen

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year old girls to go into malls, going to schools
and recruit other thirteen fourteen fifteen year old girls to
get paid three hundred dollars at the time cash to
come to Epstein's mansion, take off their clothes and massage
him and then sometimes be paid more for sex acts
if they were willing. That's a pedophile. In anybody's book.
I was eleven twelve years old. That's the definition of

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all psychiatrists and of the law.

Speaker 4 (05:47):
Epstein was interested in sixteen year olds, seventeen year olds,
eighteen year olds.

Speaker 1 (05:51):
And why is he trying to say that when there's
so much record out there of Epstein doing the things
I just described with girls younger than that. But but
Dershowitz is still talking about miners.

Speaker 4 (06:03):
He was a bad person, did terrible, terrible things. The
word pedophile is not a correct description of what he was.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
Let's analyze that before we get to the next cut.
Why did Dershowitz decide to do that? Why was it
so important to him to come out and say, oh no,
technically read the fine print here. Epstein's not a pedophile.
Why would he go there? What are you saying? Three
or three seven, one, three, eight, two five five texts
d an five seven, seven, three nine and then but wait,

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there's more, which is not a good thing.

Speaker 3 (06:37):
Number two.

Speaker 1 (06:38):
He was not a trafficker.

Speaker 4 (06:39):
Traffickers make money by selling and enslaving girls. What he
did is he was a selfish guy who was having
sex with all these uh sexual contact, at least with
all these sixteen seventeen year olds and.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
Maybe maybe lending them to people like Prince Andrew.

Speaker 3 (06:56):
We don't know.

Speaker 1 (06:58):
Oh mg, why would Durshowitz even go there? I mean,
first of all, legally I mean trafficking and morally, obviously
this is trafficking. Legally it doesn't have to be for
cash money. It doesn't be O writer check to Epstein
for that girl. No, it's it's for something of value.
Does anybody believe that Epstein was trafficking these girls without

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getting anything in return? Dirs can't believe that, does he? Sure?
But he was not a trafficker in the truth sense
of the word. That's why there's no client list. There
were no clients. Wow, and getting technical with the term
client list. But it doesn't matter if somebody's identified as

(07:43):
a clienter this or that. Who were the people who
were the people he was going to the island with.
Who were the people who were also sexually abusing these
these children? That's what everybody wants to know, now, Ryan,
here's here's the question. Then we'll get to some of
the political stuff on this. But here's the question. Is

(08:04):
is a president Trump going to be able to satisfy
the many many people and I'm one of them who say, no,
we just need to know more. We got to get
to the bottom of this Epstein thing. Now you have
to do it in a way that's legal and fair
and makes sense. But is the president going to be
able to satisfy that in a way that didn't even
appear possible before through a deal with Maxwell? Do you

(08:29):
think that's in the works where Maxwell is going to
name names in exchange for having her sentence reduced or eliminated.
She's never getting a part that that ain't happening, But
do you think that would Do you think that would
turn this into a political win for Trump?

Speaker 2 (08:46):
I see it as one of the only ways out.
But then what are you willing to give her in
terms of a reduction and sentence? And does the information
that she give warrant that? I mean, there got to
be a way to measure that ahead of time. She's
just going to lead you on a wild goose chase,
and it had to be pertinent information that led to arrest.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
And confirmable to your point. Now, I think that's what's
going on right now. I think that's that's we're in
the process of that right now. Would be my guest
with I bet that she gave a bunch of names
to DOJ and and said here's where you can find
some evidence. And there in the process now of trying
to confirm that. So I would love your answer also
to Ryan's question, and I'll jump into phones when we
get back, and that is, would you be willing to

(09:28):
eliminate Maxwell's sentence completely? No part, but eliminate the sentence
completely if she gave up ten other child rapists. You're
on the Dan Capla Show.

Speaker 3 (09:42):
And now back to the Dan Kaplas Show podcast amid
air in Cincinnati, Cincinnati.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
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Speaker 5 (09:57):
An.

Speaker 6 (09:58):
That was he's a very she's a registered Republican.

Speaker 3 (10:03):
Oh, now, I love her ad? Is that right?

Speaker 6 (10:06):
As Sidney, You'd be surprised at how many people are Republicans.
That's what I wouldn't have known. But I'm glad you
told me that. If Sydney Sweeney is a registered Republican,
I think her head is fantastic.

Speaker 1 (10:22):
I think he thought her ad was fantastic anyway, don't you.
I mean I did he did. I think pretty much
any sane person did. Yeah, but not this Heckler. Not
this Heckler. Sydney Sweeney walking into It looked like a premiere.
She was pretty dressed up and incurring this abuse.

Speaker 7 (10:42):
Had we're going to be as.

Speaker 1 (10:52):
Now if I'm betting you the truckster, yeah, I'm betting
that Heckler was paid by American Eagle, Right, don't the right?
I mean, the longer this stays alive, the better for
American Eagles. Somebody told me the stock pop today. I
haven't confirmed that. I'll take a look at it. If
it did, my guess is it's become kind of a

(11:13):
meme stock. I haven't done the analysis on that, but
something that people just start training, not because of inherent value,
but just betting on whether it's going to go up
or down. With this attention being paid to the ad,
the president's comments, et cetera. Let me look it up
and see it happened to today. A lot of stocks
went up today. Might explain the new shooling Bugatti in

(11:37):
the parking lot today. What did that cost? By the
What are Bugatti's going for today? I wouldn't know.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
That is well out of my price range.

Speaker 2 (11:44):
But the reports I reading online at least is that
American Eagle stock has skyrocketed.

Speaker 1 (11:50):
Okay, yeah, but then again, I think it's probably just
a bet on the come there rather than any inherent value. David,
And what more, you're on the Dan kaplish. You're welcome, Dan.

Speaker 8 (12:04):
How are you doing?

Speaker 1 (12:04):
I am living the dream? How about you?

Speaker 7 (12:07):
I'm doing the same.

Speaker 5 (12:10):
I'm calling.

Speaker 7 (12:11):
I'm calling regarding our elections.

Speaker 5 (12:14):
In Colorado and on a national basis. I hear you
are talkings, and.

Speaker 7 (12:21):
I don't know if you can prove to me that
Joe Biden received eighty one million votes. I believe our
system is not corrupt.

Speaker 1 (12:29):
What percentage of folks do you think believe that election
was stolen?

Speaker 7 (12:36):
I believe a large percentage. But that's not what the
media is going to tell you.

Speaker 1 (12:40):
Hey, do you think in Ryan.

Speaker 7 (12:42):
Let's say, let's say let's say only you've got a
divide between Republicans and conservative I mean conservatives and Democrats,
if you will. But I would say of the Republicans,
I'd probably say about seventy five percent. I'd probably say
even of the Democrats, they probably they say thirty to forty.
Even they realize that it's across and we just let

(13:06):
it keep going.

Speaker 1 (13:07):
I do think it's more than half of Republicans at
this point, you know, The irony of that is that
all this lawfare, all of this immoral, illegal abuse of
the system, the Democrats launched to try to put Trump
in jail so he couldn't win in twenty four. I
think that vastly increase the number of people who then

(13:31):
concluded that twenty was stolen, because if they're willing to
do that in twenty four, doesn't it make it more likely.
I think many people thought that they stole it in twenty.

Speaker 7 (13:42):
Yeah, well continue down that path to think about it,
back to the eighty one million. They weren't there, and
machines and people have proven this, so no one wants
to listen to them. There's a thing called the PID controller.
And I truly don't believe Colorado. When I've moved here
a fore years, I voted to legalize abortion, tell basically birth.

(14:04):
I don't believe it. I lived in Opaso County at
the time, and it's manipulated.

Speaker 5 (14:10):
Mail in ballots. That's a license to steal.

Speaker 7 (14:14):
And if people don't vote, they can go in and
place votes for people. The whole thing is corrupt.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
Hey, David, appreciate the call on that and listen. I've
been consistent from day one right when it comes to
something as important as our elections. I'm not going to
sit here and say that election was stolen unless they
have the proof in front of me. I obviously understand
the concerns people have, and we never try to censor
people from having that talk on our air, and we
have an open door policy for anybody who has evidence

(14:43):
or analysis. I personally, though, whether it's a state election
a federal election, I'm never going to conclude that election
was stolen unless the proof is actually there.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
Stolen is a funny word because that is the word.
It's an extreme word that the left uses to discount
any concerns about the election, which you and I both have,
And because the simple fact of the matter is this,
let's do a logic exercise, common sense exercise.

Speaker 3 (15:04):
Let's go back to two thousand and eight.

Speaker 2 (15:06):
Yes, all three Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton, and Barack Obama
were candidates for president one time in that election. Do
you remember that in the Democratic Bran we might not
have known at that time. I'm trying to think back
who Kamala Harris was. But let's set up four quadrants
of a square, and in one square you have the
first black president ever. In the other one you would
have the first female president ever, in another you'd have

(15:29):
the first black female president ever.

Speaker 3 (15:32):
And in the other you have Joe Biden.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
What sane person in two thousand and eight would have
told you, I'm betting on Joe Biden of those four
he'll get the most votes in American electoral history for
president of the United States.

Speaker 3 (15:48):
That's an insane comment. So for me to sit here,
and I listened to our caller, David, I have to agree.

Speaker 9 (15:54):
How does Barack Obama, this aspirational, soaring rhetoric, historic big year,
win two elections when the popular vote the electoral vote
and get fewer votes than Joe freakin Biden?

Speaker 3 (16:09):
Are you kidding me with that?

Speaker 1 (16:10):
Now? Obviously, in twenty it was easier to vote because
lots of states changed their rules to allow all of
these mail in ballots. Right, We're used to it here
in Colorado, but a lot of states just did that
in twenty.

Speaker 3 (16:22):
Now, now you're on the right note right there.

Speaker 1 (16:24):
Yeah, So listen, I understand why probably well over half
of Republicans think twenty was stolen. All I'm saying is
I would need to see the proof, and I haven't,
And the other reason, and we said it at the time, Ryan,
I think you've got so many people out there who
believe twenty was stolen. Is the way things came down
on that election night. And again I think that had

(16:44):
a lot to do with the fact that there were
so many mal in ballots and states that normally didn't
have mallon ballots, but you had Donald Trump up big,
and then what seemed too many of us like a pause,
and then all of the sudden, it reverses, and it reverses.
It's not an up and down reversal. It appeared to
be just a straight down rehearsal for Trump. Right, So

(17:05):
there was a lot of suspicion. And I said at
the time, and again this comes from a guy who
I have not concluded it was stolen because I haven't
seen the proof on that. But I said at the time,
this nation needs and Joe Biden at that point he'd
been sworn and he should endorse, you know, some type
of nine to eleven commission investigation into election night and

(17:26):
why we had that kind of flow and the American
people need that explanation. And it turned out, I think
to be to Biden's great disadvantage. That that was never done. Now,
I understand what you're thinking, and I get it, but I
don't know you're saying, damn. The reason Biden didn't do
that is it would have shown the election was stolen,
and logical people can conclude that. I get it. But

(17:50):
if the election was not stolen, I think that. I
think that Biden did himself a real disservice by not
having that kind of deep dive because Americans were suspicious
for the jump and that never went away. You throw
the lawfare in there on top of it, and so
many say, hey, if they're willing to abuse the legal
system to wrongfully bring charges against Trump, try to put

(18:11):
them in jail so he can't win. Wouldn't they have
stolen twenty So while I haven't seen proof it with stolen,
I get why a lot of people believe it was.
You're on the Dan Kaplas Show.

Speaker 3 (18:23):
You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.

Speaker 10 (18:26):
The Donald Trump administration is arguably the most influential this century,
and probably as well dating back a good portion of
the last century as well. Love it like it, lump it.
Trump is remaking in the United States of America.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
Let's dand there yet non CNN. You gotta love that, right,
because it's exactly what we predicted. And one of the
really cool things now is you look at JD Vance
and JD Vance and we talked about it. I remember
the time around we talked about it because you know,
at the time that JD Vance was picked, it looked like, hey,
you know, if you if you went with Glenn Young

(19:00):
or Marco Rubio or something else, you probably put a
broader coalition together for election day. But we talked at
the time about, hey, Trump wants more than just this win.
Trump's very confident he's going to win. He wants to
continue MAGA beyond this term. And JD. Van's lining up
perfectly to do it. The importance of that, right is, Yeah,

(19:22):
you want to keep winning. You want to keep winning.
You don't just want to win so much now you
get tired of winning. You want to be tired of
winning for a long long time to come. So it
looks like they're getting that pipeline. Well set up a
great text rolling in Dan. I'm a certified firearms instructor,
and one of the big reasons that women are better
shooters and men is the guy's ego gets wrapped up

(19:44):
in their ability to shoot, even if they have never
shot before. The women just want to learn and focus
on the lessons and the feedback when they're at the range.
That from Brad and Loveland. I threw a couple of
words in there. The exec verbatim was I'm a certified
firearms instructor and one of the big reasons, and then
it goes on to say, the guy's ego is wrapped
up in their ability to shoot. So I extrapolated a

(20:06):
little bit, Thank you, Brad, but I think I was
fair and accurate there. And what we were talking about is,
you know, Sydney Sweeney, there's this you know, the word
out now she's registered Republican, and then the video of
her doing really well in some target practice, and then
it led to the discussion of why are women so
naturally good at this? Because I've talked on air before

(20:27):
about and I think I showed Ryan the video of
how well Amy shoots, and then Ryan said his mom's
a great shot. Ryan the instructor's instructor. Brad's words make sense.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
To me, Oh, a lot of sense because the guy,
you know, we kind of yeah, we have this swagger,
go oh, I got a gun. Good shooting, But you
don't really necessarily hone in and pay attention to the
things little details that you should in a way that
a woman is just wide open to it and like, yeah,
I'm a sponge.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
You want to learn. I want to do it the
right way.

Speaker 3 (20:56):
And I think that's what happened with my mom.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
Well, and I think for guys, and I was very
fortunate to have great instructors. But for guys, I think,
you know, hey, this is expected of us, right, we
are protectors. That is part of our job, and so
we better be able to do this job of shooting
very very well. So I think there's that extra element
with women. I mean, it's not like they're expected to

(21:20):
be great shots. But then they're just naturally wired, right,
mama bear, They're just naturally wired to protect. They pick
it up and they hit the target. No, it's cool,
it's impressive. Anybody else at the theory, we'd love to
take it. Dan, was your dog indoors in the chili
ac for a while. She might be enjoying the warmth,
and then we'll move to the shade. A good theory

(21:41):
there too, was talking about it. I stopped home before
coming the show, and we got this dog. She's I
think twelve now, maybe thirteen, all this big white fur
and you know it's ninety seven straight temp and she's
laying on our concrete driveway, just sprawled out enjoying it.
I was just marveling at that. But that's a pretty
good theory, Dan oh Man, this needs to be a show.

(22:05):
Ryan Texter says, I have a subject I'd like you
to discuss sometime in the near future. Some of these
scooters and e bikes are traveling on the roads at
forty miles an hour or sometimes more, and they are
very dangerous, unlicensed and almost invisible. Thank you Texter, you're
so right. We've got to do that show. And because
you get to the e bikes now, which you know,
I have one of my own, and I love it.

(22:25):
That the beautiful thing with an electronic buy And you
know this, if you have it, is you can do
your heavy workout. You can push yourself to the max.
You know, I'll go up all those hills and everything else,
and then you can cruise home with the electricity or
you can just see it can just hit the accelerator
and use the power the whole way. But You're right,

(22:45):
they get going real fast and normally not with the
typical flow of traffic. There is so much danger in
those in the scooter thing. We've talked about a bunch before, right,
I mean, what could go wrong? You dump all these
lime scooters down into the middle of a MA your
metro area. And if anybody ever did the true stats
on the number of brain injuries you know, the number

(23:07):
of big orthopedic injuries off those those scooters that people
are driving around because those companies when they dump on
the streets, they know darn well, and the politicians who
license them to do it know darn well that about
half the people riding them are going to be intoxicated. Right,
A little bit of an exaggeration, but you know what's coming.
So what would make it worth it to the city.
And I'd like your take on this because you may

(23:28):
have the opposite view, But what would make it worth
it to the city to just Okay, now, well, we
know we're signing up for a whole lot of young people,
disproportionately young people who are not going to live with
brain injuries or very very serious orthopedic injuries the rest
of their lives. So we can pull this tax money
off these scooters three out three someone three eight two

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five five the number text d A N five seven
seven three nine. Would love to get your take on that.
And then a bunch coming in on this Epstein's stuff.
All so, speaking of which I want to get to
some of that sound Chris Christie still with us. I
had my doubts. We hadn't heard for a long time,
but here here's his theory on Epstein and the political

(24:12):
fallout for the president. President still facing questions about the
Epstein files. Congress has gone into recess to try to
avoid the issue. Is it going to go away? No?

Speaker 11 (24:21):
And the reason it's not going to go away is
because it's not a Democrat driven issue.

Speaker 1 (24:25):
It's a it's a magga driven issue. And that's why
I won't go away.

Speaker 11 (24:29):
I think the President could very well deflect if Democrats
were the only ones talking about this, but in fact,
his base is talking much more about it than he is.
And the other problem, too, George, is that this is
not leaked into popular culture. You know, you saw the
jokes about the president on the SP's, you saw it
on South Park, and now you even got this website

(24:50):
Calshi that does you.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
Can bet on how many times his first point was valid.
The second is just provable BS right, if you're talking about, oh,
they joke about him on B's and here and there
embedding sides. Listen, all of that was going out. Remember
about Trump the fella in how many felon He's yet
they've been doing that to him forever and it's just
bounced off them or helped him and in many cases

(25:13):
helped him. But the first point I think is a
valid one is the concern about learning much more about
who was also raping children. You know, while the Democrats
are in their foolish kind of way, trying to take
advantage of it, because again they think people are stupid
that people aren't going to think, well, wait a second, Democrats,

(25:33):
why didn't you disclose that info? But for the President,
I think it is a lingering issue politically, not a
major issue, not one that's going to change his legacy
or undermine his administration or cost them the mid terms.
But it's a rare misstep and it's one of the
few problems he has right now. Now I think he's

(25:54):
going to flip it by doing a deal with Maxwell
where she rolls on a lot of people with valid
information that they're then able to use to charge and convict.
So I think that's probably where this ends, and there'll
be a lot of disgust that she was able to
get out of her sentence or most of it. But
in the end, assuming that enough other child rapists are convicted,

(26:16):
I think it ends up working out for them. But
you know, Christy is right about the fact that there
are so many of us who support the president and
to just on this one say no, we have to
have more. We support you. We literally thank god you won.
We thank god there was divine intervention that spared you

(26:38):
from the assassin's bullets, spared America. We're grateful to you
for everything you've done as president that's made this a
better country. But we need, we need to be able
to make sure that as many of these other child
rapists as possible are brought to justice. I don't think
there's one fair, honest person in America who believes that

(26:59):
President Trump himself was involved in any of that abusive children.
I don't think there's even a one millionth of one
percent chance of that. So I do not believe for
a second that's what's going on here. Is it likely
as names and whatever the files are, of course, because
there are circles intersected prior to it becoming known that

(27:21):
Epstein was a criminal. Dan, my golden retriever, will sit
in a pile of snow when it's twenty degrees and snowing.
She will also lay on the deck in the sun
when it's ninety five, even though part of the deck
is in shade that from Alexa. I just think I
don't mean to get heavy about all this. I think
it's so cool. I think it goes back to how
God created all living things, right, and that animals that

(27:44):
we're going to spend a lot of time outdoors were
created with this ability to adapt to all these temperature
extremes and that kind of stuff's fascinating. Or it's just
for our dog. The old hotstone massage saying have you
done that? As Kelly done that? And I probably shouldn't
have asked. We have did this?

Speaker 3 (27:59):
Great yes? Short answer?

Speaker 1 (28:01):
Yeah, have you Kelly?

Speaker 3 (28:03):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (28:03):
Yes? Thumbs up or down? Oh, definitely thumbs up. Yeah,
I would agree with you.

Speaker 8 (28:08):
In fact, I get pedicures every three weeks, and it
is they do the hot stone one.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
Well, that's clearly what Kelly was doing out there. You're
on the Dan Kapla Show.

Speaker 3 (28:22):
And now back to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
You Don't have to shovel hot right three oh three
seven to one three eight two five five the number
text d A N five seven seventh three nine. Just
got one of my favorite promos in years, talking about
Governor Polis right, who prides himself on being all about
quote freedom, which is the opposite of true right. He
stands for the opposite of freedom. Governor Polis now telling

(28:48):
the financially disadvantaged people of Colorado that they cannot use
their food stamps to buy Coca Cola or other pops.
So we'll have that conversation tomorrow. Whether you think he's
right or wrong. My guess is that there will be
a plenty of conservatives who believe that he's right, and
it'll be interesting to see, be interesting to see where

(29:09):
all of that comes down. But just the irony of it,
just like Paul, I mean, you know, he is a
smart guy. I know it because I've interviewed him many
times and you look at his life and everything else.
You know, very successful entrepreneur parents, he is intellectually he's

(29:29):
a smart guy, but then why hasn't he made more
smart moves politically? And part of it, I think cryan
is I think he's been able to just buy pretty
much anything he wanted, so he hasn't had to really
use those muscles, and he hasn't had to maximize his

(29:50):
intalient intelligence or his other ability because he just steamrolls
with his money. And then once you become governor oil,
if reporters are going to challenge you and everything else,
then you know they're going to lose their access. So
I think he's just been able to skate. But it's
going to be exactly what I predicted for Hickenlooper, exactly

(30:10):
what I predicted for Bennett. When they get out into
this big pond of national politics, they are going to
get absolutely crushed because if they did have the skills
and ability at one time, they don't have them anymore.
And that just brings us back to you know, Polish
gets a softball here and I'll play a couple of
bites back to back, and if he would have here

(30:33):
and in other opportunities just been brutally honest, he could
have jumped out from the crowd, gained some respect and
actually be in a position to at least get attention nationally.
He was never going to be president or vice president,
but at least get attention.

Speaker 8 (30:47):
So one of your fellow Democrats, Kamala Harris, who of
course was the party's nominee for president in the end
in the most recent election, she just announced she's not
going to run for governor of California, which leaves the
door open for her to potentially run for president again.
Considering what you've laid out about what Democrats need to do,
is Kamala Harris the right person to be the Democratic

(31:10):
standard bearer in twenty.

Speaker 12 (31:11):
Twenty eight, Well, it's about the message and what they
run on, right. I haven't talked to Commo about what
her plans are. I think what we need is the
ability to make sure that we can build that coalition
of fifty five fifty eight percent when when decisively turn
our back on this divisive Trumpian.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
Era of politics. A lot of voters.

Speaker 12 (31:30):
Prosperity an opportunity for the American people, and I think
it's great that many people will hopefully run to be
able to audition to see who has that voice and
who's able to get that done and win and of
course govern effectively to improve our quality of life.

Speaker 1 (31:44):
Has anybody ever just phoned it in worse than that? Right?
I mean, that's just a boring phone it in kind
of word selling. But the reason he's there is so
the last Kim if he's going to run.

Speaker 8 (31:58):
I'm tempted to ask if that's you.

Speaker 1 (31:59):
So it's not something I've looked at. I'm focused on
governingest it's not something I've looked at. Again, just the dishonesty.
Right after he became governor about eight years ago, he
registered the domain names polists were President and things like that.
Did it through one of his companies. Unless you think
that's a coincidence, Well why not just say it? But

(32:20):
here's the big thing, right, and this is one of
my it just profound truths. You know it's true. The
only people who don't know it's true are these politicians,
most of them. And that is that people are hungry
for somebody who'll just come out and be brutally honest
and tell them the truth, especially when they disagree with
the voter. And there are ryan you tell me if

(32:40):
you think I'm wrong. This is my basic premise of politics.
There are a very very very large number of voters
who will vote for somebody they disagree with on important
issues if that person is brutally honest and shows them
the courtesy and the respect of honesty. Doesn't apply to
every issue, right, I'm not going to vote for some

(33:01):
pro abortion person, but it applies to a lot of issues.
So if Polus had just come out when it was
clear to everybody, and we'd been talking about it for
years at Biden's mentally incompetent, and Polus had broken with
the pack and said, hey, love the guy, blah blah blah,
but time to pass the torch to a new generation,
that would have been Polus's breakthrough moment. Yeah, not going

(33:22):
to make him president, not going to make him vice president,
but would have elevated him to a level he's not
going to get to now. So why didn't he do it? Yeah? Anyway,
what does he do next? You never did answer that question, Ryan.

Speaker 2 (33:37):
I've told you he's going to be a Fox News pundit,
kind of a reliable go to guy in the panel
of Brett Baer, that sort of thing.

Speaker 1 (33:43):
That'll last for thirty seconds just because he's so melt toast. Right, Yeah, well,
we'll find out together. Hey, this topic tomorrow fascinates me.
Polis now saying to the poor people of the state,
you can't use your fruit stamps to buy Coca Cola
or any other pop right or wrong? Where do you

(34:05):
come down on that? Policies is all about freedom, but
not on pop. But you may agree with him. Can't
wait to find out. Thank you, Rang, Thank you Kelly,
You're awesome as always. Joined us tomorrow please on the
Dan Kapla Show.
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